F-35 pilots are wary of the ALIS automated system: reasons are identified

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F-35 pilots are wary of the ALIS automated system: reasons are identified

In the USA, the improvement of the ALIS automated information logistics system continues. The main task that was initially set for the developers was to create a system that would significantly reduce the cost of operating a new generation of F-35 fighters. Targets - 80% reduction in operating costs.

It is planned to automate the supply of components, scheduled software updates, including dispatch control, on-board systems. The system should also allow technical services to be informed about the need for refueling by flying tankers from those airfields that are closest to the square of the operation.
However, while with the ALIS system for the F-35 - problems.



Theoretically, software updates should be carried out in real time - "no more complicated than what happens on a smartphone." However, military pilots are wary of such a functional component of ALIS. The reason is that the actual use of the software with the function of updating it has already demonstrated failures. And these problems are not resolved, although work has been going on for several years. This was reported by F-35 pilots in Japan, Norway. There is still no exact answer to the question of what specific reason the Japanese Air Force F-35 fighter fell into the sea. Experts previously voiced assumptions about possible failures in the software of the aircraft's fighter systems.

Pilots are also wary of the fact that it is the automation that ultimately should determine the main logistic parameters, including an assessment of whether the fighter is ready for the operation or not.

It should be recalled that previously in the United States themselves voiced problems with the automation of logistics. The ALIS system, analyzing the time it took to receive spare parts from the factory for repairing an aircraft, could produce a result of several years. All this time, the automation would have recognized the aircraft as unsuitable for flying. To “trick” ALIS, the technical staff of the US Air Force bases were sometimes forced to print parts on a 3D printer and make replacements. However, the manufacturer after that was ready to remove the aircraft from warranty service.
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    1. +4
      April 16 2020 08: 34
      There is still no exact answer to the question of what specific reason the Japanese Air Force F-35 fighter fell into the sea.

      Update came, software updated, plane rebooted after update laughing
      1. -1
        April 16 2020 08: 38
        In the USA, the improvement of the ALIS automated information logistics system continues. The main task that was initially set for the developers was to create a system that would significantly reduce the cost of operating a new generation of F-35 fighters. Targets - 80% reduction in operating costs.


        However, while with the ALIS system for the F-35 - problems.



        And what will the development, implementation, and operation of the logistics system itself cost? Will the game be worth the candle?
        1. -2
          April 16 2020 10: 17
          Quote: Insurgent
          And what will the development, implementation, and operation of the logistics system itself cost? Will the game be worth the candle?

          Be.
          The logistics system is an integral part of the new technology. Advanced technologies are first introduced and tested by the US military. After receiving a positive conclusion, a similar system will be introduced in the design of all such equipment objects, including purely and primarily non-military ones. After that, all operators begin to "recoup" the budgetary funds invested by the state (USA) in the creation of the technology. The state (USA) has introduced a system of forcing manufacturers to acquire and introduce advanced technologies. Obsolete technologies are declared "unsafe". This has always been the case since the mid-1960s. This is the essence of what they call "consumer society", and not what is understood by this term in "cargo civilizations".
        2. -3
          April 16 2020 14: 28
          These are "childhood diseases." In general, the future lies with this system.
      2. +3
        April 16 2020 09: 09
        Quote: purple
        Update came, software updated, plane rebooted after update

        ===========
        I was driving around the city - a cherry "Citroenchik" was maneuvering in front of me. behind the sticker: "System ERROR!", and below: "driver is UNLOADED! " laughing lol
        Conclusion: When you restart the aircraft, the most important thing is not forget "load" there the PILOT !!! wassat
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    3. 0
      April 16 2020 08: 48
      Procurement agents, they are also procurement agents of the Yankees.
      1. 0
        April 16 2020 09: 33
        Quote: knn54
        Procurement agents, they are also procurement agents of the Yankees.

        So they wanted the plane to order parts for itself, to monitor the technical condition and send requests for maintenance and repair. That's because the system didn’t like something and it downloaded the update, and the plane was in the air ........ ............. laughing lol lol
    4. 0
      April 16 2020 08: 58
      Theoretically, software updates should be carried out in real time - "no more complicated than what happens on a smartphone."

      In general, when you update the software, the system must be rebooted for it to work correctly. Roughly speaking, the "piece of iron" must be turned off, counted to 10 and turned on again. Probably Fu35. Turns off, counts and ... and ... bam - "arrived." wassat
    5. HAM
      0
      April 16 2020 09: 08
      "... The pilots are also wary due to the fact that it is the automation that ultimately has to determine the main logistic parameters, including the assessment of whether the fighter is ready for the operation or not ..."

      DEPARTURE MUST ALSO BE CARRIED OUT IN AUTOMATIC MODE, possible right in the air ...
    6. +4
      April 16 2020 09: 45
      This is an auxiliary logistics system for the supply of spare parts.
      It is not connected with the combat qualities of the aircraft.
      The system is the first of its kind. Naturally, it gives bugs.
      In the future will be on every combat aircraft.
      1. 0
        April 16 2020 11: 40
        Lightning, oddly enough, is the most complex device from a technological point of view today. Everything that is today was stuffed into it. Lightning is the cutting edge of technology for today!
        Software problems were, are and will be, but they will be eliminated. The F-16 also had problems with software at one time, but today it is the most massive 4th generation fighter.
        And remember the Su-24, which for us both technically and technologically was very difficult, brought him to mind for a long time. As a result, we got a good car!
        For some reason, not everyone understands that technology will always be with problems that will fix over time. And Lightning, as I wrote above, is a technological pioneer, so to speak.

        Unfortunately, we know little about the Su-57, about the problems that it has. And they are, they simply can not be, but we have a closed program, unlike JFS.
        If PAK-FA were to be opened in the same way as JFS, then it is scary to imagine that they are discussing at VO now. )
      2. 0
        April 16 2020 11: 48
        It is not connected with the flight technical characteristics of the aircraft, but with the (combat) effectiveness and (combat) readiness of the aircraft, the connection is direct.
    7. 0
      April 16 2020 09: 48
      And I thought that only we have the Su-57 for a long time to "wisdom"
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        1. 0
          April 16 2020 12: 51
          Quote: September 3rd
          So, envy silently and bring to mind the Su-57)))

          This should be heard by those who have already changed, when and when. Directly without the Su-57 and the "Armata" our combat readiness has slipped to "zero" and we have nothing to fight if anything
    8. +2
      April 16 2020 09: 53
      All right, the more they’re afraid of their own aircraft, the better for our pilots.
    9. +2
      April 16 2020 10: 05
      It will soon come to the point that the F-35s will not be able to fly simply because they can’t figure out who to inflate.
    10. 0
      April 16 2020 10: 13
      Well, and why do you need a pilot for this Wunderwaffle, since they are afraid of it?
    11. +3
      April 16 2020 10: 57
      And for some reason I remembered the Boeing 737 MAX, which was so praised for its "cleverness" (the pilot will rest) and stuffed with computer electronics so that he suddenly began to fall from heaven to earth in the literal sense of the word.
      1. -2
        April 16 2020 11: 50
        Quote: rotmistr60
        And for some reason

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