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The data on the creation of a new operational tactical aviation platform was confirmed

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The United Aircraft Corporation confirms information that work is underway in Russia to create a promising aviation platforms. We are talking about a platform for operational tactical aviation.


According to information provided on the government procurement portal, at the first stage, it is planned to carry out aerodynamic calculation of the LMFS - a light multi-purpose front-line aircraft. It is noted that the aircraft should become twin-engine, and at the same time, comparisons should be made in terms of parameters and characteristics with foreign parameters. 4 million rubles are allocated for this. The order has been placed by RSK MiG.

A promising aircraft platform for a light multi-purpose aircraft will expand the capabilities of the Russian aerospace forces. In fact, we can talk about the appearance in the future of several options for aircraft, one of which could have the design of a combat training.

It should be noted that so far no specific plans for the implementation of the project have been announced.

Experts believe that the new platform could eventually replace the Su-25 attack aircraft in operation today. These aircraft for many years of use in the Air Force (VKS) went through several upgrades. Today, they actually retained only the initial appearance, and the entire "stuffing", including on-board electronic systems, went through a radical update. In addition, the platform will create a light front-line fighter for the Russian Air Force.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B April 16 2020 07: 15 New
    +5
    I understand that this is an analogue of the MIG-29. To replace it.
    light multi-purpose front-line aircraft. It is noted that the aircraft should become twin-engine, and at the same time, comparisons in parameters and characteristics with foreign parameters should be made. 4 million rubles are allocated for this. The order has been placed by RSK MiG.
    But where does the SU-25?
    After all, the MiG-29 was never a replacement for the Su-25.
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z April 16 2020 09: 03 New
      -6
      work is underway in Russia to create a promising aviation platform.

      А МИГ-35 уже не в счёт ?! Ради чего "огород перекапывают" ? "Осень кусать хоцся ?" Не понял ...
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ April 16 2020 12: 14 New
        -1
        Quote: Victor_B
        I understand that this is an analogue of the MIG-29. To replace it.

        I think they want a cheaper version ... like the F5Tiger ...
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 April 16 2020 17: 04 New
          +2
          If a cheaper fighter to do - you need to do with one engine.
          Significantly cheaper service. Fuel is also needed less ... hi
          1. Roma 1977
            Roma 1977 April 17 2020 10: 48 New
            +1
            But for this you must first have a very powerful, massive, cheap and reliable engine with a long resource.
      2. Stas-90
        Stas-90 April 16 2020 12: 47 New
        -1
        Quote: Starover_Z
        But the MIG-35 doesn’t count?

        MiG-35 and Su-35S.
        As you want to call and through any pink glasses do not look at them, but these are the same MiG-29 and Su-27 after modernization.
        We want to fool the adversary with new names? So the adversary is not fooling around and assigned these 35th the corresponding designations - Fulcrum-F and Flanker-E +.
        So let the water in the stupa not be pushed there, but they are developing something new.
        1. Voyager
          Voyager April 16 2020 14: 47 New
          +6
          What is the difference between modernization or not, if the capabilities of the Su-27 and Su-35S are not comparable? The capabilities of the 35th are many times superior to those from the first iteration.
          1. Stas-90
            Stas-90 April 16 2020 15: 36 New
            -2
            And the difference is that for someone the capabilities of the F-15A are also not comparable with the capabilities of the F-15X. However, this does not cancel the creation of the new F-117, F-22, F-35. And we all modernize.
            1. Voyager
              Voyager April 16 2020 15: 47 New
              +3
              We are both modernizing and creating new ones. For the same time period created the Su-34 and Su-57. Work is underway on the PAK DP.
              1. Stas-90
                Stas-90 April 16 2020 16: 02 New
                -1
                Fiction type PAK DP leave for Yandex Zen.
                About the T-10V (Su-27IB) aka Su-34 - from the name it is clear that this is a variation on the T-10.
                Su-57 - the only thing that is created as an analogue of the F-22. But when he finally enters the troops, to put it mildly, it is not known, roughly speaking, whether he will do so now.
                But is there a new, NEW, own, breakthrough, original? Well, what are we all catching up and copying, then F-15 with F16 (Su-27), now F-22 (Su-57). The impression that the design idea in Russia ceased to exist at the turn of the 70-80s of the last century.
                1. Voyager
                  Voyager April 16 2020 20: 28 New
                  +1
                  Any of your points above are not adequate. Even comment laziness.
      3. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan April 16 2020 13: 27 New
        +1
        But the MIG-35 doesn’t count ?!


        Everything counts, only the new MiG will be 5 generations - super maneuverability, cruising supersonic speed, radar with AFAR, multifunctionality (it can work on air, sea and ground targets), and of course with stealth technology.
      4. ancient
        ancient April 16 2020 14: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: Starover_Z
        Do not understand ...

        А как же ещё на "пустом" месте ..."зарабатывать"? wassat
        1. bayard
          bayard April 16 2020 19: 33 New
          +2
          About five years ago, MiG RSK proposed the UAE to develop a new 5th generation light fighter (of course, for kingdom money). In the dimensions of the MiG-29, but inconspicuous, cruising supersonic, with engines of 11 kg. each ... It seems that the Arabs have not grown together, but some developments have remained, so they move.
          If you look soberly at our realities, then the first prototype will appear (with proper funding) no earlier than 2030. smile , and drill no earlier than 2035
          Hopes for export potential?
          Work for the future?
          Or ..
          Quote: ancient
          А как же ещё на "пустом" месте ..."зарабатывать"?

          Most likely all together.
          And before its appearance, several MiG-35 regiments will be built ...
          If the coronovirus does not interfere.
          Or they will begin to master the planets, as Rogozin promised ...
  2. jonht
    jonht April 16 2020 07: 16 New
    0
    We need such an apparatus, but are there any engines for it? And in what dimensions do they want to see him?
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins April 16 2020 07: 23 New
      +2
      Too little information. Neither the estimated performance characteristics, nor the dimensions, nor the approximate place on the battlefield - attack aircraft or fighter bomber?
    2. alexmach
      alexmach April 16 2020 08: 26 New
      -5
      There are of course ... From the SU-57. One. Second stage.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk April 16 2020 10: 20 New
        0
        Quote: alexmach
        There are of course ... From the SU-57. One. Second stage.

        Сказано же - "...должен быть двухдвигательный"
        Я очень далек от авиации, но все же - на разработку 4 лимона это - шутка такая? Это первое. Второе, - "легкий многоцелевой..." и "двухдвигательный это совместимо? В принципе - да, но для этого надо иметь "маленький и легкий" двигатель, а он есть?
        After all, neither the 29th nor the 35th can be fastened to the lungs.
        Yes, and single-engine does not work - there is no engine.
        А может не все мы знаем? И у разработчиков есть "сюльприз" в кармане?
        1. alexmach
          alexmach April 16 2020 12: 02 New
          0
          В принципе - да, но для этого надо иметь "маленький и легкий" двигатель, а он есть?

          That's exactly why it is worth taking one engine brought to mind from a heavy one. And live with him.
          At the output, we get an increase in the series of engines, and therefore cheaper and universalized maintenance. In general, the Yak-130 flies on something, the MiG-35 is also threatening to launch production with something.

          For some vehicles, such as attack aircraft, this approach may not work. Provided that such machines are still needed.
        2. NEOZ
          NEOZ April 16 2020 12: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Второе, - "легкий многоцелевой..." и "двухдвигательный это совместимо?

          Yes, look at the Yak130, M346, L15, F5Tiger, F18hornet ...
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          надо иметь "маленький и легкий" двигатель, а он есть?

          AI222, RD93, TRDD-50.
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Yes, and single-engine does not work - there is no engine.

          see J10, JF-17 .......
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Or maybe we do not all know?

          uniquely
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          И у разработчиков есть "сюльприз" в кармане?

          maybe C54 / C55 / C56 .....
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk April 16 2020 14: 49 New
            0
            Quote: NEOZ

            0
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Второе, - "легкий многоцелевой..." и "двухдвигательный это совместимо?

            Yes, look at the Yak130, M346, L15, F5Tiger, F18hornet ...

            Without arguing, I’ll ask you - YAK130, M346, can this be attributed to the MULTIFUNCTIONAL MULTIFUNCTIONS without a stretch? No, well, the Papuans to drive on the shroud, maybe it will. But we are not going to do this. We are going, if something happens, to stop the aggression of a serious adversary. And for this we need a serious, albeit light class, plane.
            Quote: NEOZ
            maybe C54 / C55 / C56 ..

            Yes, S-54, judging by the alleged performance characteristics, very ...
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ April 16 2020 15: 12 New
              0
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              it can be attributed without a stretch to the BATTLE MULTIFUNCTIONAL?

              you can’t do it without stretching an owl on a globe ...
      2. NEOZ
        NEOZ April 16 2020 12: 33 New
        0
        Quote: alexmach
        There are of course ... From the SU-57. One. Second stage.

        By the way, the thought is good !!!!! I agree!!!!
    3. NEOZ
      NEOZ April 16 2020 12: 17 New
      -1
      Quote: jonht
      We need such an apparatus, but are there any engines for it?

      calibers fly on something .....
      1. alexmach
        alexmach April 16 2020 13: 06 New
        +1
        fly on disposable engines.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ April 16 2020 13: 24 New
          0
          Quote: alexmach
          fly on disposable engines.

          like F5 .... right?
  3. fa2998
    fa2998 April 16 2020 07: 30 New
    -16
    Quote: jonht
    And in what dimensions do they want to see him?

    They will again process the MiG-29 with a file, call it a MiG-229, pump out billions from the treasury, and not let it go into a series. This has been done more than once. hi
    1. alexmach
      alexmach April 16 2020 08: 29 New
      +3
      Again will be processed MiG-29 file

      First would be worth
      Secondly vryatli. Firstly, it is no longer quite light. Secondly, what kind of aerodynamic calculation is it? The plane is ready.
    2. bars1
      bars1 April 16 2020 11: 08 New
      +1
      fa2998, are you stupid (local censorship does not give you a true definition)?
      1. fa2998
        fa2998 April 16 2020 12: 19 New
        -3
        Вы только ярлыки можете вешать?Что конкретно можете сказать?Сухой хоть Су-57 занимается,у Мигов-простой.Надо что то придумать.Денег нет на Сухой,программа нового самолета-"Денег нет".Будут колдовать на существующих моделях(потомки Миг-29)
  4. Operator
    Operator April 16 2020 07: 31 New
    0
    4 млн. руб. - на поддержание штанов КБ "Миг".

    Ниша "оперативно-тактической авиации" навсегда закрыта разведывательно-ударными комплексами БПЛА+РСЗО с 200-300 километровой дальностью стрельбы.
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    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 16 2020 10: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: Operator
      4 млн. руб. - на поддержание штанов КБ "Миг"

      For that kind of money they can only draw a picture with watercolors.
      1. bars1
        bars1 April 16 2020 11: 12 New
        +1
        And this research (calculation) will be carried out in the period from 2020 to 2025. So indicated in the request.
  5. askort154
    askort154 April 16 2020 07: 42 New
    +8
    The data on the creation of a new operational tactical aviation platform was confirmed.
    (Article title)

    It should be noted that so far no specific plans for the implementation of the project have been announced.
    (Summary of the article)

    Question: Why such an article on VO fool
  6. Poplar M1
    Poplar M1 April 16 2020 07: 45 New
    -1
    4 миллиона рублей на аэродинамический расчёт ЛМФС - тут скорее всего, ошибка. Речь шла о фуршете или корпоративе для ответственных работников. А на счет научных изысканий для авиации - тут все сроки будут перенесены на столько "влево" - что шею свернуть можно. При нефти 15$ - денег на войнушки и армию не будет, величие временно отменяется пока нефтяная игла, от которой "не зависит" экономика РФ, вновь не наберет силы.
    1. Errr
      Errr April 16 2020 08: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: Poplar M1
      А на счет научных изысканий для авиации - тут все сроки будут перенесены на столько "влево" - что шею свернуть можно.
      Ну, наконец-то "влево", а то всё "вправо" да "вправо"... good
  7. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 16 2020 07: 58 New
    +1
    Надо делать одномоторный самолет по типу J-10...под "Изделие 30"
  8. 501Legion
    501Legion April 16 2020 08: 19 New
    +2
    4 lyama is nothing at all
  9. knn54
    knn54 April 16 2020 08: 41 New
    0
    They will work right up to the seventh (?) POT.
  10. Keeping
    Keeping April 16 2020 08: 44 New
    -5
    This is a sixth generation aircraft?
    1. Peter is not the first
      Peter is not the first April 16 2020 08: 55 New
      -1
      No, judging by the amount of money allocated for the study, we are talking about the restoration of the aircraft of the pre-war generation I-16.
      As it was written above, that money is not enough even for a buffet, and not just for the 6th generation.
  11. Keeping
    Keeping April 16 2020 08: 51 New
    -5
    Someone from the text of the article understood what 4 million rubles are allocated for?
    What needs to be done for this money, to come up with a platform? The concept of a promising aircraft?
    - So, we need a universal platform for a promising aircraft! Where can I pick up 5 lyamas?
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 April 16 2020 09: 51 New
      +1
      In fact, a picture to draw, such a good picture worth 4 mulika. fellow bully good
  12. AAK
    AAK April 16 2020 08: 51 New
    +1
    Что-то автор несвежее съел, уж больно его пучит.... одна платформа для разработки штурмовика и лёгкого истребителя? А какую, по мнению некоторых из коллег, замену в срочном порядке надо делать МиГ-29, когда ещё в серию толком не пошёл МиГ-35? И что там особо разрабатывать, подняли с полки материалы по С-54-С-56 и МиГ-ЛФИ, сдули пыль, отыскали еще не померших разработчиков, подкормили немного, прикинули - как объединить лучшие решения из обоих проектов, что из более современных движков и электроники там можно поменять и через 1-2 года запустили в производство. Вопрос в том, что у нас нет толковых малогабаритных двигателей для двухдвигательной схемы относительно лёгкого самолёта, ЕМНИП даже на Як-130 движки или полностью "оттуда", или на основе "оттудашней" модели...
  13. JD1979
    JD1979 April 16 2020 08: 59 New
    0
    Briefly the essence of the article: we want to create one base for both the tractor and the racing car. Experts believe ... Rather guess about what they do not understand at all.
  14. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy April 16 2020 09: 09 New
    -2
    4 million rubles? It's only going to the stationery so much
  15. V.I.P.
    V.I.P. April 16 2020 09: 16 New
    -2
    Again 2 engines on a light aircraft. Mig-35 can’t push anyone into another and again step on the same rake. If only to cut the money .. We would look at the number of F-16s sold, Grippen ... We would learn from the Chinese with their J-10 and JF-17 (our engines were on them). The Chinese can create a plane with one of our engines, we have no way. But they will never be able to sell our light aircraft with 2 engines for money to anyone. If only for free to give out how the USSR will begin. But only the economy of the USSR and the Russian Federation does not even make sense to compare ...
    1. Peter is not the first
      Peter is not the first April 16 2020 09: 30 New
      +1
      This is already a customer’s wish, once said to the morgue, then to the morgue. If the terms of reference say that there should be two engines, then certainly there will not be one or three.
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 16 2020 09: 49 New
    +2
    Someone wanted to easily cut the dough that they can offer better than the already proven MiG-29 and Su-25 or 39. Well, if you do something lightweight, then a single-engine device like F-16.
  17. K-50
    K-50 April 16 2020 09: 55 New
    0
    In addition, the platform will create a light front-line fighter for the Russian Air Force.

    And that the MiG-35 is no longer bully? belay
    1. bars1
      bars1 April 16 2020 11: 15 New
      +1
      MiG-35 is not an easy fighter and everyone understands this very well.
    2. alexmach
      alexmach April 16 2020 12: 04 New
      0
      Not already but still
  18. sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 16 2020 10: 18 New
    0
    It would be better if all efforts and finances were thrown to finalize the SU-57, this is now the main thing.
    And then without completing one, they rush to another, etc., and then they say: -the money is over.
    1. bars1
      bars1 April 16 2020 11: 17 New
      0
      Well, do not tell, 4 million. rub. until 2025 - this is not money
  19. bars1
    bars1 April 16 2020 11: 22 New
    +2
    Guys, why are you so excited! This is one of the research that has become known, probably not the most important (judging by the fact that it was reported and the amount of funding) It is far from the fact that it will even reach OCD.
  20. bars1
    bars1 April 16 2020 11: 33 New
    0
    It is likely that this research is designed to create LMFs for different bantustanov. IMHO for VKS such nafig is not necessary.
  21. Ilya_Nsk
    Ilya_Nsk April 16 2020 11: 55 New
    -2
    PAKs already poheril?
  22. Mentat
    Mentat April 16 2020 12: 13 New
    0
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    Сказано же - "...должен быть двухдвигательный"
    I am very far from aviation, but still - is it a joke to develop 4 lemons?

    Not for development, but for "aerodynamic calculation", attach more attention to reading material before writing comments.
  23. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock April 16 2020 13: 13 New
    0
    We need a light fifth-generation fighter with the ability to take off and land vertically so as not to depend on airfields.
  24. iouris
    iouris April 16 2020 18: 13 New
    0
    The marketing department is working! But plans must be corrected yesterday.