Possible losses of the Russian economy estimated at trillions of rubles

The publication of forecasts on economic losses in the context of the crisis continues. National rating agency referenced by a review "News", believes that the total damage to the Russian economy from the crisis caused by the pandemic will amount to a huge amount - up to 18 trillion rubles (17,9 trillion).

It is noted that the crisis can lead to the appearance of many millions of unclaimed in the labor market. The agency’s forecast for the figures in this case is up to 15,5 million.

It is noteworthy that the same publication contains a forecast of the following nature: the Russian government will not allow such significant damage, additional measures will be taken to overcome the crisis.

The same forecast stated a possible drop in real wages by 3%.

This forecast for the percentage drop in real wages is in great doubt. Other experts believe that with the current market conditions, as well as with extremely low oil prices, the percentage drop may be significantly higher.

Meanwhile Kommersant writes that the Ministry of Finance is preparing a reallocation of budget funds for the current year in connection with the crisis. Redistribution volumes - over 900 billion rubles.

It is planned to use the funds primarily for implementing social programs, balancing the budgets of the constituent entities of the federation, supporting systemically important companies, and taking measures by industry. Support will also be provided in the form of state guarantees.

Comments

[marchcat]

a possible fall in real wages by 3%.

Our officials and the government, this fall is likely not to touch any side.

[mitroha]

Only my mother-in-law with 100% probability predicts in what condition the father-in-law will come from fishing.
All other forecasts were never made for the sake of forecasts, only for the sake of some benefits.
A person who knows how to see and think will give, without deceiving himself, a much more accurate forecast.
And this is all the shaking of the air, they still do not bear any responsibility for their "forecasts". True, as well as for their "work", unfortunately.

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: Mitroha

Only my mother-in-law with 100% probability predicts in what condition the father-in-law will come from fishing. And this is all the shaking of the air, they still do not bear any responsibility for their "forecasts". True, as well as for their "work", unfortunately.

Your mother-in-law is wise So, if you rephrase your mother-in-law on the future situation of the country's economy, the forecast looks like this - the economy of the pipe will lead the country only to the “pipe,” Will you doubt your mother-in-law's wisdom?

[mitroha]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

Your mother-in-law is wise

Quote: DEPHIHTO

Will you doubt the wisdom of your mother-in-law?

What are you, not ready for the opening of hostilities

[depressant]

This is probably a reservation: the estimated loss of the Russian economy due to the coronavirus is 15.5 trillion rubles. Not because of the coronovirus, but will remain, I won’t be surprised, - 15.5.

[Stas157]

. stated about possible falling real wages on 3%.

What a hypocrisy! Real salaries of citizens already fell in dollar terms on 20%. And the next inevitable inflation will complete the rest.

Who do they want to deceive?

[AUL]

And what is the wording:

It is noted that the crisis can lead to the emergence of many millions unclaimed in the labor market.

This is actually called unemployment!

[Demon_is_ada]

Juggling words in turn, the unemployed do not produce goods and contribute to a further decrease in GDP ... yeah ...
To begin with, in order to consider losses, you need to determine the date, at least approximate, when the mess will end, but now it’s realistic to calculate the losses already existing ...

[Warrior with machine gun]

for these bookkeepers this virus is simply manna from heaven, they will bury all their jambs under it.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Mitroha

A person who knows how to see and think will give, without deceiving himself, a much more accurate forecast.

As of today, according to official data, the budget losses from the Siberian farmers' "games" in oil amount to 2 trillion. rubles, then the losses from the "vacation" will be connected ... in general, nothing good can be expected for the people, and all external and internal factors that form a puzzle + mediocre leadership + incessant theft and appetites of oligarch officials can lead to the collapse of the economy itself, and, accordingly, the system. And now, like under a magnifying glass, everyone will see the price of all promises, import substitutions, May decrees, strategies and 20 years of chatter.

[The Siberian barber]

https://youtu.be/WSxqnkPdG40

[Poor]

employers have already cut people’s salaries by 20-25%, sent many to administrative holidays, and whom they told them to write at their own request. Against this background, all of the above looks like a cynical lie, and voluntary self-isolation, like a rehearsal of possible management in the event of a clear crisis of power and the economy.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: marchcat

Our officials and the government, this fall is likely not to touch any side.

The same forecast stated a possible drop in real wages by 3%.

Indeed, only 3%. The price of oil (it would be necessary to check what is there with the brains of novak and others like him - maybe the coronavirus has already eaten them all?) Fell more than two times. Inflation (only planned) will be 3%:

The Ministry of Economic Development lowered the forecast for inflation in the Russian Federation for 2020 to 3% from 3,8%, maintaining the forecast for 2021-2024

And the real drop in salaries will be only 3% ...
It is necessary to limit all officials' salaries to ten minimum wages, let them spin as they want.

[Malyuta]

Quote: ROSS 42

It is necessary to limit all officials' salaries to ten minimum wages, let them spin as they want.

Comrade, you are too wasteful and humane with respect to officials and the state apparatus, they have 2 minimum wages in the mouth and then a lot.
And that is characteristic, our chief of the universe has not reduced a single penny of expenses for his own maintenance, but this is so, by the way.

[Vladivostok1969]

It is necessary to limit all officials' salaries to ten minimum wages, let them spin as they want.

NN Platoshkin proposes to limit 3-5 sizes to the minimum wage for officials.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: ROSS 42

Indeed, only 3%.

National Rating Agency.

[alone]

Quote: ROSS 42

It is necessary to limit all the salaries of officials to ten minimum wages,

It will be enough and a half times - Just the middle class

[iouris]

This is a pessimistic assessment. The realistic forecast is "PI" times worse (sociological law of the Russian Federation).

[Pessimist22]

Of course, many small and medium-sized businesses will go bankrupt, people will be on the street, and the oligarchs will be provided with financial assistance, as usual, they will not abandon their own.

[DMB 75]

So it will be. And they will also help all sous-salami and other companies whose leadership is located over the hill, read the list of enterprises that our government has gathered to help from the budget. You will learn many interesting things.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: DMB 75

read the list of enterprises that our government has gathered from the budget to help. You will learn many interesting things.

Even the bookmakers from "Fonbet" somehow got into that little list ... System-forming, damn it, an enterprise, damn it ... How can you not provide the bookmakers with state aid - the economy will collapse at the same moment ...

I understand everything, even our auto industry with its AvtoVAZ. How much money is poured into it, how much more will pour like water into the sand. But, at the end of the day, their own, dear - all went on "sixes" and "Nivas". There is no other. BUT BOOKMEKERS, CARL !!! System-forming ...

[DMB 75]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Even the bookmakers from "Fonbet" somehow got into that list like a snake ... It is a backbone, damn it, an enterprise, damn it ..

These bugs, Igor Alekseevich, seem to have been crossed out because of the noise raised, but there are many of the same bugs left. Baltika brewers, for example, this is Carlsberg Group .. They are going to provide such "backbone" and help for public money , that's what makes it angry. And there are many of them .. Previously it was called simply - sabotage, if not betrayal ..

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: DMB 75

It used to be called simply - wrecking, if not betrayal ..

I won’t remember Joseph Vissarionych here.
But even in today's China, for example, those who included such "backbone" in the list for state aid, next to the "backbone" themselves, blindfolded, in front of the department of executioners in Tiananmen would stand ...

It disciplines and stimulates a more careful approach to the distribution of state aid.

[Old partisan]

Thanks to effective AvtoVAZ managers, we haven’t been here for several years. There is one of Renault Nissan enterprises.
Something like that.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Old partisan

Thanks to effective AvtoVAZ managers, we haven’t been here for several years.

And in our 20 years many things have not died and what Putinism has created has yet to be realized by many.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Suppose Putin is absolute evil in your understanding. But then what do you think is good for a country like Russia. Who should be at the head of the country? I noticed that scolding and watering with shit is all great, but practically nobody is able to offer any particular alternative.
Maybe you suggest something intelligible, with specific surnames.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

omit, Putin, in your understanding, is absolute evil.

This is an evil that is hard to overestimate.

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

I noticed that scolding and watering with shit is all great, but practically nobody is able to offer any particular alternative.

Well, if you don't see anything around besides zombie TV and evening m., Duc is your trouble. You especially gifted redheads have already been repeatedly voiced anti-crisis programs, lists of coalition governments and governments of popular trust, but at least lay it in your eyes ..... Read carefully the proposals of the NPSR, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. Regarding the chapter, firstly, the "presidency" for Russia is a foreign structure and is subject to further disposal, respectively, a return to the elected People's Councils with a coordinated Supreme Council, anti-crisis for the first couple of years, and then elections and based on the results of work, we will choose the best ones.
We have invaluable experience in building a state from scratch, which is very relevant today.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

Now I realized that VO is occupied by ultra-left clowns a la Serezha Udaltsov. It is useless to talk to such people.

Well, here's the grandmother for two said and there was a big and open question who and what occupied, and who is the clown after all, for me it looks like Vrotenberg as a hero of labor is more like a clown. And in the current situation, there is no need to "twitch" anywhere, the authorities will do everything "beautifully" and "technically" in the zugzwang mode, and the "thimblers" are clearly not "chess masters".

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Quote: Malyuta

Well, if you do not see anything else besides zombie TV and evening m, so this is your trouble

DYK tell me gray and wretched and politically uneducated what to look and listen to, show me where to get the correct and ideologically correct information. You look and see clearly. And you, after you take power in the country, do not shoot me and do not hang me on a pole, you will take it for yourself))))

[Malyuta]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

You look and see clearly.

And you will see clearly, life itself will open its eyes to you.

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

And you, after you take power in the country, do not shoot me and do not hang me on a pole, you will take it for yourself))))

Oh well, this is not our method, there are a lot of clothes in the country, so the workers will be in great demand at the construction sites of the national economy, and for a good conscientious work, we will even award you with an honorary diploma

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

DYK I have been living for a long time and have seen enough. You sorry my wife did not grow up to teach me how to live)))
And on what "legal basis" do you send me to construction sites? And if I buy a shotgun and shoot back at you, and not only me? Aren't you afraid of such a reaction from the working people? And I count myself precisely among the working people.

[A.TOR]

You can’t even imagine how much you have to realize ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Old Partisan

Thanks to effective AvtoVAZ managers, we haven’t been here for several years. There is one of Renault Nissan enterprises.
Something like that.

And so it goes - they built the whole country, they paid gold from the budget to the whole Great Country, and then a bunch of villains on the grounds known only to Chubais and Gaidar, they sold all this as their own.
Classical, according to Karl Marx, "appropriation of the results of someone else's labor."

A friend lives in Tolyatti, his father built his plant, worked on it. A friend himself after school came to the factory, graduated from the evening college without interruption, plowed for almost 30 years at the factory. Patriot factory to the bone, all life in the factory. He left three years ago. I ask - how so? She says nothing, swears and reaches for the bottle.

[Esaul]

Yeah, there are a lot of companies from Cyprus offshore companies on the list. Apparently the company of some important officials. The authorities completely broke away from the people, it is time to change it thoroughly, to dig it along with the foundation.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: DMB 75

read the list of enterprises that our government has gathered from the budget to help. You will learn many interesting things.

You can look here:

[The leader of the Redskins]

I do not know, like 3 percent, our engineers (in the company where I work) were informed about a decrease in salary by 30 (!) Percent since April. For the period of quarantine. Do not like it - you are welcome to exit. But the office is private, you know ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I do not know, like 3 percent, our engineers (in the company where I work) were informed about a decrease in salary by 30 (!) Percent since April. For the period of quarantine. Do not like it - you are welcome to exit. But the office is private, you know ...

3 percent is the "average hospital temperature". Top managers of state corporations will not be reduced at all, at factories - 2%, in the private sector - 30%.
As a result, the desired 3% statistics will be displayed. We have official inflation and it’s ridiculous to talk about it. Premium apartments and cars for the year fell 0,1%, milk and meat went up 10%. The average percentage of inflation is tiny ....

[Chaldon48]

How vague it sounds "please in the social sphere", but in reality it means that pensioners and people whose only income, which is the salary, will live from hand to mouth, while officials are eating in three throats.

[den3080]

Quote: Chaldon48

How vague it sounds "please in the social sphere", but in reality it means that pensioners and people whose only income, which is the salary, will live from hand to mouth, while officials are eating in three throats.

I was surprised in the article that 15,5 million people could lose their jobs, while at the same time a decrease in salaries of about 3%.
that is, according to the logic of forecasters, 15,5 million (more than 10% of the total population of Russia) “forecasted” beggars should be discounted, while those remaining at work, that is, “fit into the market” (according to Gaidar), wages will decrease by only 3% .
Egor Timurovich fervently fiddles in the coffin and scratches his knuckles on the lid, he wants to get out and dance a little.

[hydrox]

Today is the seventh year that the actual pension coverage is REDUCING every year, despite all the indexations and surcharges: in fact, the purchasing power of pensions is already about 30% less than 6-7 years ago.
This means that not all 21 million people are already living abroad, but all 44 million people, while the borderline for poverty is no longer 8-10 million, but 16-18 million.
And all because of the fact that over the past 6-7 years (when it became extremely clear that the liberoid course of ALL Russian Governments does not contribute to economic growth, but only to its decline), Putin could not decide on the main step in his life - to declare the nationalization of raw materials , Fuel and energy and utilities - these golden veins of the state and people.
This one step - and disobedience to the authorities disappears, the hole in the PFR disappears, the directors' golden dream is restored - a shortage of workers, the double-circuit financial system is restored, the budget robbery disappears completely, the preventive fire in the Siberian taiga stops, somewhere educated and educated young people appear .. Yes, a lot of things fall into place.
And officials, please do not offend: they, like ours, also have only one throat, but who is to blame that Bentley can enter their throats, and we can only envy such official abilities - and such magical qualities are interrupted by then a MiG weighing just 9 grams.

[WIKI]

Quote: hydrox

The Russian government does not contribute to the growth of the economy, but only to its decline), Putin could not decide on the main step in his life - to declare the nationalization of the raw materials, fuel and energy complex and housing and communal services - these goldmines of the state and people.

"The real economy, this is not what you named. In the USSR, as some believe, there was a weak economy. But it was real and diversified in many industries, where the dependence of the budget on oil, gas and electricity was 7%, against the modern 50%. You have to start not with what you suggested.

[hydrox]

So it should be :: You are silent - I propose, you can offer something - I will not say anything ...
Dialectics!

[Chaldon48]

Remember the fate of John Kenadi, he also tried to do something, and his brother Robert dreamed the same about reforms.

[hydrox]

Do you live in the United States if you are concerned about American reforms?
Then then silently suffer about the fate of the Kennedy clan, and let the Russians talk about the Russian economy - we don’t give a damn about the US reforms ...

[hydrox]

Oh, how a liberde does not like posts on the liberal impasse of the Russian economy and on the need to make this economy not elite-thieves, but a national-republican :: and if we do not (that is, the economy continues to move into feudalism!), Then we will remain without everyone will gain income into the budget, without education, social programs and pence (but the liberde doesn’t mind pence; they themselves are either kiddies of thieves, or they themselves already have capital and corruption positions) - what are the pence for them who were hunchbacked for the liberty plundered public property?

[Malyuta]

Quote: Chaldon48

How vague it sounds "please in the social sphere", but in reality it means that pensioners and people whose only income, which is the salary, will live from hand to mouth, while officials are eating in three throats.

Lately, many have voted for the stabilizer and consoled themselves with the thought "if not him, then the cat" and most importantly, "so that it doesn't get worse," and this is "worse" together with the stabilizer.

[Valery Valery]

What the hell, do we need these forecasts ?! Publications of these scarecrows are needed only to rock the situation and make the crisis even deeper.

[Volodin]

Quote: Valery Valery

Publications of these scarecrows are needed only to rock the situation and make the crisis even deeper.

So if of all the irons there are scarecrows about the coronavirus, then economists "caught the wave", deciding to keep up. The era of lawyers and economists with three degrees, it is so ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Valery Valery

What the hell, do we need these forecasts ?!

Explain popularly. The Russian population needs forecasts, projects, advertisements, and TV shows so that it does not get whitewashed and pick up all the forecasters, planners, advertisers and advertisers, directors and other propagandists of the necessary “zeroing” and “amendments” ...
How was it there?

Then how is it? Either calves calve, or we all at the collective farm bull We will continue to listen to the “fairytale guarantor”, believing and hoping ...

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: ROSS 42

We will continue to listen to the “fairytale guarantor”, believing and hoping ...

Yes, in economics he is a giant of thought (to recall only the ranting about a weak ruble) and to cheer anything else to the public. Have fun country. .

[Victor_B]

Trillions of rubles are still not trillions of bucks / eureka.

[alone]

Quote: Victor_B

Trillions of rubles are still not trillions of bucks / eureka.

This is hundreds of billions of dollars and euros .. The fact is that all these rubles, dollars and euros will hit the population, not officials and oligarchs ..

[Strashila]

Come on. How damage could be something that should not have been in essence. They are awesomely flattering themselves for themselves. What if it weren’t for the virus, then we would be wow. Indeed, the virus hit their heads and suffered them in fantasies or delirium. Ugh on them or better in today's situation, apchi.

[Mountain shooter]

Everyone will be shitty. Especially if you stop working and "sit down" with hanging legs. But we're not going to do this, are we? There is a lot to do if you put your hands and head ...

[hydrox]

Aha
We would still have 25-35 million jobs, with decent salaries (you can only die on retirement), thieves can be removed from power, and corrupt officials expelled from bodies that are too close to the power community, and liberal financiers can be removed from Pr-va Yes, there are no investors who are ready to give real money for the development of the national economy (even if the oligarchs have the Law on illegal enrichment - and let them try to jump!) - oh, and Russia would have healed after getting out (and we will get out!) CIVID19 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[A.TOR]

It won't work with millions of slaves. places, because it will be possible to pay people - "a good salary" - only if what they produce will be bought by someone.
But! For a long time, this very "product" will be of very shoddy quality. Therefore, people will buy Chinese. Forbid to import? - Well, then expect problems in relations with the PRC.
But this is not acceptable for Russia ...

[regdan]

Thanks to Putin ... and Sechin

[UserGun]

Not this way!

Glory to these great and perspicacious figures, who played for us, for joy and great happiness, an equally great and unique "multi-move", for the envy and bewilderment of all other adversaries! ))) This is not for you to slurp cabbage soup with a spoon! Until now, I am amazed at their ingenious mind and the fact that one cannot do without these figures. After all, without them everything will collapse and the Polovtsy and the Pechenegs will crawl out of fairy tales and seize our open spaces, well, oil and gas too)))

[fa2998]

Quote: marchcat

a possible fall in real wages by 3%.

Our officials and the government, this fall is likely not to touch any side.

In principle, the figure of 3% is close to the truth. After all, in our country everything is "on average". Someone will lose their job, someone will lose 50% of their income. And the "servants of the people" will add to themselves. So we will reach this figure.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: fa2998

In principle, the figure of 3% is close to the truth.

... close to the calculated one.
The lie lies in the methodology and source data.
Officially working in Russia, about 75 million. Met forecasts for 4, 6, 8 million unemployed. We take the maximum from the article. This is one in five. Statistics, again the official salary for 2019 is 48000 rubles. (for December-62000 rub.) Far, of course, from the real RFP of the bulk of the people. It is easy to calculate the average wage of these 20% of employees and the percentage of average loss in wages.
I admit a typo and the "professionalism" of the journalist.
As there Goebbels said: "The more monstrous lie ...."

[ximkim]

Possible losses of the Russian economy will always be estimated at trillions of rubles, since the government thinks only about losses, not about incomes. They think geographically only about the center, and not about the country.

[Reserve buildbat]

"The same forecast announced a possible 3% drop in real wages."
Knowing the "economic block" of our government, it is easy to guess that these 3% will actually turn out to be at least 30%

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

And where will they redistribute from? I would like to know more precisely where it will decrease.

[edeligor]

I caught myself thinking - when I see this face, that in the title of the article, everything is lost. To what extent is an unpleasant vile - oil is expensive badly, the kapets has fallen in price. Not a single positive from the sour minister. But when asked, they say, explain your double-faced salary, IT started a story about its necessity and irreplaceability.

[askort154]

...... damage to the Russian economy from the crisis caused by the pandemic will amount to a huge amount - up to 18 trillion rubles (17,9 trillion) ....

Kohl engaged in forecasts, so forecast to the end.
How many billions of this amount will be plundered.
Someone a coronavirus, and someone cubic meters of rubles.

[AUL]

Well, THESE will not miss the opportunity to fish in troubled waters!

[oracul]

The time of the epidemic is the most fertile time for fortune telling and various forecasts, an opportunity to be promoted to political scientists, public and political figures, experts of all kinds. Also, the opportunity to earn when others are self-insulated.

[Zhan]

Good morning everyone.
If we have a list of companies from min. Bookmakers and foreign companies, together with TSUM retail boutiques, are bringing in the finances for state support, we must "overcome the crisis without fail" ...
It's time for the whole min. Fin Take for Faberge.

[Altona]

Quote: Zhan

bookmakers and foreign companies bring in together with TSUM trading boutiques

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Boutiques are the right people boutiques, and tote is a source of easy and big money.

[Zhan]

Quote: Altona

Quote: Zhan

bookmakers and foreign companies bring in together with TSUM trading boutiques

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Boutiques are the right people boutiques, and tote is a source of easy and big money.

This is a no brainer, but the fact is that 65% of the fonbet company belongs to the Cyprus offshore, and the companies' accounts are located over the hill. All money and taxes will settle there. And there is no question of supporting our production ... So, do not make quick profits, people will not arrive in the treasury and pockets ...

[Altona]

Quote: Zhan

This is a no brainer, but the fact is that 65% of the fonbet company belongs to the Cyprus offshore, and the companies' accounts are located over the hill. All money and taxes will settle there. And there is no question of supporting our production ...

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But the tsar was not informed of this, they put a piece of paper on the company's cash flow and said "do you see how much money will be lost if we do not support it?" And the tsar answered habitually: "The grandmas have to be done!"

[Altona]

The most amazing thing is that they are even ready to count the loot in the cemetery. They don't care about people, they only care about losses and profits. Indeed, money is all that they live for. It is clear that due to a halt in the economy, money circulation will also stop, but is this really news for "economists"? Although with their "education" is not surprising. Even the "professional" Mishustin (who did not even command the sawmill) disappeared somewhere and instead of decisive actions "gives proposals to the President." In general, a complete paralysis of the control system.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Altona

. In general, complete paralysis of the control system.

There is not only paralysis on the face, but also inadequate solutions. One figure sits and broadcasts on the monitor, demanding proposals from their own protégés "economists" and "yurists", and they, in turn, do not think about the fate of the state, but how to keep the money "earned" by overwhelming labor. Interestingly, the Uryaskakuas already understand that thimblers are not chess players or not yet?

[Dikson]

Losing the economy .. you say ..? Let the economists argue .. Much closer and clearer is a simple calculation of the housing sector .. How many people, having lost their jobs, will stop paying rent, giving money for water supply, electricity, gas? Let's add "self-isolation" to the loss of a job. How many children in the country, sitting around the house, began to turn on the lights and pour water? The cost of food in families has also increased _ children who were fed in kindergarten schools before, now they need to feed their homes ... Management companies are private .. How soon will they begin to evict people from their apartments for debts by a court decision? How many young families and just young people will find themselves on the street, having lost not only their jobs, but also the opportunity to pay for rented housing and mortgages ?? What will these crowds of people do on city streets? Oh, you can't be on the streets .. Will you start driving them into camps? To deliver them in special wagons across the country to the "construction sites of the century"? ah, there is a crisis - no construction projects .. Hello, chaos of the 90s ..

[Nastia makarova]

were there really no savings to sit out without work for at least six months?

[Dikson]

Someone has, someone probably doesn’t have such savings .. Different situations and different requests from people .. However, for the same debts of the housing and communal services .. - I have come across repeatedly with cunning people who have successfully received new social housing, officially unemployed , riding on Land Cruisers and Lexuses, and not paying for the light and housing a dime .. just the principle - the suckers will pay for everything .. But this is not the main part of the population ..

[Nastia makarova]

and many more did not save money for a rainy day, as there was too much to buy a new iPhone or go to rest abroad

[Dikson]

So it is .. Because the same pumping and manipulation goes to the consumer .. - A new iPhone, a new car, a new refrigerator, smarter than the previous one ..) And the desire to go abroad is not always "to have a rest forever in a Turkish hotel, without leaving its territory .. "If an opportunity arises, a lot of people go to see new places on the Planet on which they live .. It's sad that our state since the times of the USSR has not been able to give people a sense of confidence in the future .. Well, that is, there is a feeling of confidence .. that it will be even worse ..))) And why no one here remembers the wonderful 2020 program?

[Nastia makarova]

for a long time people count on themselves, no one believes in the state

[Poor]

why such a state? thieves and burrows.

[Poor]

I am not against the state in general, but in my opinion, the state should be oriented towards the people, their well-being and prosperity, and not towards their own pocket of individual citizens. and don’t have to minus, I live with dignity and not poorly, from generation to generation, but I was taught not to steal and not appropriate someone else’s, at one time scientific communism also studied political economy, but what these Urks are doing now (don’t think about the neutrino process cooling the stellar interior) - this is chaos, and it's time not to finish, but to finish.

[Roman123567]

Those who went to rest abroad - those means there was no need to put off ..
But those who really could not put off are those who have loans and a mortgage behind them ..
And such in the country wow !! And only the rams are not aware that they get into mortgages not from a good life, because a rainy day has already come for these people, forcing them to borrow money ..

[Nastia makarova]

there wouldn’t be rams and there wouldn’t be loans, bookmaker

[Roman123567]

For the first time I agree with you !!
That is why people want to get rid of these rams (see photo), which brought them to such a life ..

[Nastia makarova]

I'm talking about sheep among the people))))

[Roman123567]

Oh, these are also common to me ..
Because - all the best ..

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

were there really no savings to sit out without work for at least six months?

Madame. About 20 million people in the country live below the poverty line. They do not always have enough to eat, but put off .... The sleep of reason. And just then they first and foremost remain without work. Or do you think that the theft of products, and pulling out bags with them, is this such a national Russian hobby? Self-isolated people hit a hobby?

[tagil]

About 20 million people in the country live below the poverty line. They do not always have enough to eat, but put off ....

Do you personally report on the poor about the poor in Russia? What kind of bibikal?

[Nastia makarova]

Yes, I know such poor people, they ask for benefits, and the phones are cool for everyone, and they don’t really refuse food

[Old partisan]

I like some comments. Type
If you sit with your legs dangling
Or
Let's not rock the situation
Interestingly, these people at least a day in the real economy worked for a private trader? Or serve in any guard? So the same guard as the army is supported by taxes and the Taxpayer. Remember this.

[Nastia makarova]

working for a private trader is the worst thing that can happen to you

[Old partisan]

I have been working in the restaurant business for the last three years. An engineer. So this is to say the least booty. Since the beginning of April, most of them were forcibly sent to leave without maintenance, and the rest were stupidly fired to reduce staff. And 80% of people have mortgages, loans. Okay, I'm not so burdened with this disaster. I am old. And the youth? Eh.

[Moskovit]

That's interesting.

The State Traffic Inspectorate of Russia has disclosed data on the number of victims of road traffic accidents in 2019.
In total, according to the agency, as a result of the accident, 16,9 thousand people died on Russian roads, of which about 4,9 thousand were pedestrians.
In 2019, 210,8 thousand people received various injuries in road accidents, of which 45,9 thousand were pedestrians.

About 48 thousand people a year die from alcoholism. About 8 thousand from an overdose.

200 (two hundred) people died from coronovirus. Of these, the vast majority of older people with serious illnesses.

Are we fighting the loss of trillions? Destroying our fragile economy. How many people will lose their jobs now ... eh ..

By the way, every year in Russia committed 18 thousand suicides. We are confidently in the lead. And with this approach to quarantine, we will come out on top.

[Roman123567]

It has long been all dismantled and chewed ..
The fact that this virus is nothing more than a horror story has not reached only the very near ..

[strannik1985]

It has long been taken apart

You first compare the number of cases, "disassemblers" ...

[Roman123567]

And let's first compare the number of stars in the sky ??
The data is .. the data is real ..
Further we can either delve into and draw conclusions, or continue to stupidly reject, inventing various reasons ..

PS .. for those who went on the second option, I can give a tip - from the flu, before they die, they also get sick .. And even without dying - they get sick every year !! And to go to the clinic and fill up the statistics of people with the flu, talking about it is ridiculous .. Every winter, the whole office with snot / cough / fever goes to work .. After a week, everything goes away and no one knows about it .. And here any grandmother who died of old age or it is not known what else out of a dozen sores - fits as died from CV ..
So come on - compare ..))

[strannik1985]

There is data

That is, when more than 10 million people fell ill with the flu during the year and a hundred died, is it bad, and 232 deaths from 27 infections in Russia from March 938 to April 2 is good? Is everything all right with the head?

[Roman123567]

Hundred died ??
You first learn to read .. and hundreds of hundreds of thousands to distinguish !!
In the table absolutely for idiots the numbers are given ..
Yes, do not tell tales about 27938 infections .. I have already given an example above, how infected people are calculated using the same flu as an example .. They flee to the hospital when it’s really bad ..

[strannik1985]

The table is absolutely for idiots

Worldwide data table You really keep all the idiots? Approximately 500 million people are ill with the flu all over the world.
For comparison, you have 2 infections, 037 deaths, 691 recoveries.

[Roman123567]

Worldwide data table

Really?? Of course, for the whole world .. Is it as if more fully-fledged than if you start dividing by each individual city .. Or do you really keep all the idiots ??

You for comparison-2 037 691 infection

Alright .. try number three ..

Shl .. for those who went on the second option, I can give a tip - from the flu, before they die, they also get sick .. And even without dying - they get sick every year !! And to go to the clinic and fill up the statistics of people with the flu, talking about it is ridiculous .. Every winter, the whole office with snot / cough / fever goes to work .. In a week, everything goes away and no one knows about it ..

Yes, do not tell tales about 27938 infections .. I have already given an example above, how infected people are calculated using the example of the same flu ..

If you don’t want to read, then just try to think for yourself - where do they get the data about those who were sick with HF ..

Approximately 500 million people are ill with the flu all over the world.

And we are dealing with another type of flu / ARVI ..
Are you sure you weren't sick anymore ?? Have you tested ??)
Even according to some experts there - 80% are asymptomatic, not knowing about it ..

[strannik1985]

That is, there really are more people with the flu.

And we have

Did it become less deadly from this? Damn, you don’t even dispute the numbers. I'm just in shock

[Roman123567]

Less deadly than what ??)
Why are you shocked ?? FROM mortality of gripaa ??) Well, yes .. there are these deaths, why dispute them .. and now - the same thing ..
So what has changed ?? As it was bad, it remained ..
But then no one led the ear - now everyone yells like crazy ..))

Here's another .. I'm not too lazy for you ..))

However, according to Paola Pedrini, spokeswoman for the Italian Federation of General Practitioners, the reality is much worse.
Italian doctors about coronavirus epidemic in the country
"A significant part of the infected are not reflected in the statistics of confirmed cases, because they simply do not undergo a test [for Covid-19]. If in the first weeks we estimated the number of real cases of infection about five times higher than official statistics, now it is without a doubt at 10 times higher, "she said.
Given that in total in Italy, the diagnosis of Covid-19 was confirmed in almost 75 thousand patients, the real number of people infected in the country, if Pedrini’s calculations are correct, is ahead of even the global figure and may be close to one million.

If you don’t understand - I’m encrypting it - they get sick as usual from the flu - that is, millions of people actually .. the mortality rate, if you take it, is also small .. as always .. The total mortality also fits into the annual indicators .. What's new ?? Nothing!!


Well, another cherry on the cake ..

Professor Walter Richcardi, Italy’s scientific adviser to the Italian Minister of Health, former president of the European Public Health Association, said that besides a large number of elderly people, there is another reason for such statistics - the “method that hospitals use to count the dead” from coronavirus.

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Chronicles of Coronavirus
“The method by which we code deaths in our country can be called very“ generous ”- in the sense that (we believe) all people who die in hospitals with a coronavirus die from a coronavirus,” Richcardi said. That is, Italians recorded in the victims of the coronavirus all the dead who he was diagnosed with. But they could die for another reason. In support of this thought, Richcardi goes on to say: “According to a reassessment conducted by the National Institute of Health, only 12 percent of death certificates indicated a direct causal relationship with coronavirus, while 88 percent of deceased patients had at least one preliminary incidence, and many had two or three. ”

Walter Richcardi confirmed these words and conclusions in an interview with the Italian news agency TPI.
The Italian newspaper La Stampa asks questions about the method of counting the dead: “The explanation of the sad primacy of our country can also concern the calculation of deaths: almost always the dead had concomitant pathologies. So what was the true cause of their death? ” So, if in hospitals, reporting, the diagnosis of all the deceased was cut to the same comb, then maybe the devil is not so terrible as he is painted in Italy? The question, of course, is not rhetorical, and, as they say, puzzled by what is happening, there is something for everyone. Something we may not know yet. (And this “something”, perhaps, lies not in the medical plane at all, but, for example, in the military-political plane?) But in general, Stalin’s words come into his head, only rephrased: it doesn’t matter how they die, it is important how they think.

For sim, say goodbye ..))

[strannik1985]

Less deadly

Than its other varieties.

If you do not understand

You are not just unique, it is something In Italy, Great Britain, the United States and a bunch of other countries, there is an emergency regime, "ordinary" patients, including those with the flu, are simply not admitted to hospitals. Is this called "has not changed"?
You do not a priori take into account the relationship of the new flu and other diseases ???
In the current state, 20 million patients will have a million deaths / 200 million-10 million deaths. Nothing changes???

[Roman123567]

Is changing ..
Today's species is less deadly than regular flu .. (see table above)
This is despite the fact that the real incidence of the HF population is at least an order of magnitude higher, and the actual mortality rate is an order of magnitude lower than the declared .. (see the words of Italian doctors above) For 70 million Italy, it is real only with a thousand deaths directly from the square ..

But the Chukchi is not a reader .. he is a writer .. about 10 million deaths ..))

[strannik1985]

70 millionth Italy

Lies, and the most arrogant.
1. Your "table" does not take into account the number of cases at all, that is, the ratio of the finger.
2. Without flu, concomitant diseases do not have such mortality.
3. Burn on

[Roman123567]

The table is not mine ..
Mortality data - not from the finger, but from reality !!
With regards to the data on Italy, the quotes from Italian doctors are higher - the incidence in fact is an order of magnitude higher, the mortality rate from HF is actually an order of magnitude lower ..
That is, a significant part of Italy is sick .. as with the flu .. Mortality comparable ..
Rest on ..))

[Maas]

If the US economy falls by minus 5,9 and Germany by minus 7,5, then it’s even scary to imagine how much the Russian will fall. The fall this year will be unprecedented over the past 80 years.

[Dikson]

And what gigantic losses does the global drug traffic incur due to the closure of communications between countries ?! That's where the victims are ...

[Ros 56]

Well, these liberals will begin to croak now. Wait and see how it really will be. It is clear that this will not work for nothing, but wait and see until we cry and panic. So let them bark, the dog barks, and the caravan goes.

[sanik2020]

The same forecast stated a possible fall in real wages by 3%

The president eats meat and working cabbage, it turns out that the country eats cabbage rolls.

[faterdom]

Some kind of pessimist, this Siluanov.
It was necessary to appoint Oreshkin to the Ministry of Finance, at least he lies sweetly, and for some time it is easier on his soul, as an ordinary person who received the SMS "Congratulations, you won Lexus! Please pay for the delivery to your city on a bank account ...."
You understand with your brain that they lie, but on your heart, at least for a second, but warmer.

[Roman123567]

At such a price for oil, if a mega-terrible virus did not exist .. it would definitely have to come up with ..
Now all of his 20 years of incompetent rule can be attributed to an evil monster from a test tube .. He ate all the money ..

[mark_rod]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

Suppose Putin is absolute evil in your understanding. But then what do you think is good for a country like Russia. Who should be at the head of the country? I noticed that scolding and watering with shit is all great, but practically nobody is able to offer any particular alternative.
Maybe you suggest something intelligible, with specific surnames.

As already got these stupid statements - "ifneputintokto" !!!

[petrol cutter]

As life forecasts show, then this ...
At the same time, if after all this bodyagie my salary decreases by three percent, then this is just some kind of holiday! .. I thought it would be much worse. Although usually it turns out, as I thought

[Berkut154]

Already someone strangle this bald Bosko !!! He has less brains than an omeba !!!