About the museums of the “Soviet occupation” in the former Soviet republics

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Among the various striking manifestations of anti-Sovietism and Russophobia, elevated to the rank of state policy, a special place is occupied by various museums dedicated to the "Soviet occupation" and in some cases its particularly "terrifying" manifestations, which are available in a number of former republics of the Soviet Union. It is sad to say, but the number of such “cultural institutions” is steadily growing over time. True, the quality remains at the same level ...

Expositions devoted to the years of “living under the yoke of totalitarianism” are available in Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltic countries, and Uzbekistan. The greatest zeal in “exposing the crimes of the oppressors” was shown in the “unfettered” one, having also set up a separate “Holodomor Museum” in Kiev, which, as you know, was rampant exclusively in Ukraine and was planned by someone you knew.



You can talk about these institutions almost ad infinitum, marveling at how bizarrely they manage to interweave unconsciousness, ingratitude and the ability to please the most base manifestation of the political situation. But all of them, by and large, are exactly the same. Although the museums of the Soviet occupation in Riga, Tallinn, Tbilisi and Kiev, at least the Museum of Genocide Victims in Vilnius or the Museum of Remembrance for Victims of Repression in Tashkent. The main feature that unites them is forced lies, without which their very existence loses all meaning.

In the museums of the Baltic states, however, there is one specific feature. Their organizers made every effort to put a sign of absolute equality between the periods when these republics were part of the USSR and the time when they were under the heel of the Nazi invaders. The simplest example is that in Tallinn, visitors at the entrance are greeted by two impressive metal structures that represent “steam locomotives”. On one is a swastika, on the second is a red star. In the womb of one lies the bust of Lenin, in the second - of Hitler. Such artistic techniques are designed to hammer into the head not particularly burdened with intelligence and knowledge in stories visitors a simple idea about the identity of two totalitarian regimes.

Moreover, the emphasis is often placed on the fact that the "Soviet occupation" lasted longer than the German one, and, therefore, "did more harm." The entire large-scale Museum of Genocide Victims in Lithuania, located in the building of the former NKVD-MGB-KGB of the republic, is 99% devoted to the "horrors of the bloody Gulag", right down to the recreated with special relish and scope in the basement of the "real Soviet prison". Holocaust victims, Jews tortured and killed during the years of Nazi occupation, received minimal attention. And about the role in the extermination of Jews (and not only them, but also people of other nationalities, including Russians) in those terrible years, voluntary accomplices of the Nazis from the "indigenous population" played - not a word.

In general, the unscrupulous exploitation of prison-camp subjects in all without exception “museums of occupation” suggests the idea of ​​directly unhealthy addictions on the verge of mental disorder. In almost every museum you will find carefully, even I would say, lovingly selected collections of various "executioner" tools and fixtures, most of which most likely have nothing to do with the NKVD and the KGB. But how it looks! The cell doors arranged in a row in Tallinn are exactly the same doors, which lead dreary horror to visitors in Tbilisi ... Patterned work aimed at having those who had the misfortune to cross the threshold of such establishments firmly believed: in the Soviet Union there was nothing but penal servants, convicts, escorts, lattices and "thorns", and did not exist at all.

Another common feature is the “objects of Soviet life”, which are present there a little less than the “genuine personal belongings of victims of repression”. They are selected in such a way as to cause a maximum of disgust by the era of the USSR. If a telephone box, then with broken glass and a folding device. If the machine is selling soda, then it is also all rumpled and pepper-scratched. About monstrous rusty irons, disgusting furniture, except perhaps as a props for horror films, no less disgusting kind of clothes and utensils and say nothing. In the same Tallinn, the theme of the “Soviet automobile industry” is represented by a scattered “invalid” and, we must pay tribute, “Lada”. Also, however, having not the best view.

Common features that unite all these expositions: extreme tendentiousness, an attempt to imagine the time spent in the family of Soviet peoples as a period of endless “repression”, “dispossession”, beggarly life and hard labor. Moreover, the vast majority of them do not make much difference for an earlier time, that is, the pre-Soviet period. In the same Georgian and Uzbek museums with great pathos, they talk about "oppression" and "oppression" during the time of the Russian Empire. That is, there is a cultivation of Russophobia in its purest form.

According to the reviews of the vast majority of professional historians, the cognitive value of such museums is negligible, if not negative at all. But the ideological component, aimed at fooling and nurturing hatred, as practice shows, alas, is quite effective.

They, of course, will not tell about the growth of the economy and the population of the "occupied" republics, they will not show the evidence of those who, being the representative of the most ordinary Soviet family, received excellent education and went up the career ladder from the workshop to the head of the whole industry, it will not say a word about how industry, culture, and medicine were raised in the republics during the Soviet period. Just because it does not fit into that order and those goals and objectives that were originally set for such, so to speak, institutions.
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  1. +22
    April 16 2020 06: 48
    Is the Solzhi Museum in Eburg not a museum of Soviet occupation?
    1. +19
      April 16 2020 07: 13
      In Uglich, in the museum of the hydroelectric power station about the Soviet occupation, more space is allocated than the dam itself.
      And you will get tired of bending your fingers of such "museums" around the country.
      And you need to start with Katyn and Copper.
      1. +40
        April 16 2020 08: 09
        You need to start with the ebn center. Here is the main museum of invaders and enemies. The citadel of evil. The ebn center must be destroyed.
      2. +13
        April 16 2020 08: 35
        It turns out Salaspils was not a concentration camp, but a labor camp.
        1. +8
          April 16 2020 09: 31
          Quote: knn54
          It turns out Salaspils was not a concentration camp, but a labor camp.

          Yeah, for heavy teens without parents. And then it turns out that he was created by the NKVD. Hitlerism rises just like mold from dampness.
          Right was Julian Semenov:
          1. +1
            April 16 2020 10: 14
            Fearfully. But all this is exactly so. Mueller was right ...
        2. +1
          April 21 2020 18: 00
          Quote: knn54
          It turns out Salaspils was not a concentration camp, but a labor camp.
          The memory is short .. a few years ago there was an article on the allocation of plots for private development on the territory of the former camp
      3. 0
        April 16 2020 18: 03
        where have you seen this in Uglich it's not true I'm a resident of the city of Uglich
        1. +1
          April 16 2020 20: 25
          where have you seen this in Uglich it's not true I'm a resident of the city of Uglich

          It is written Russian in white in a museum on a dam. Resident, and beyond the nose did not see.
  2. +27
    April 16 2020 06: 58
    Mr. Kharaluzhny needs to go to the Cathedral of Christ the Savior in Moscow. There, on the lower level, there is such a museum of "Soviet occupation and victims of communist repressions" that not only Ukrainians, but even Poles can strangle themselves with envy. From Russia they take the example of the so-called. limitrophes.
    1. +3
      April 16 2020 07: 13
      Quote: Amateur
      There, on the lower level, there is such a museum of "Soviet occupation and victims of communist repressions"

      And what's in there? I'm off topic
      1. +8
        April 16 2020 07: 22
        There is a museum of political repression. Neither more nor less.
        1. +2
          April 16 2020 08: 24
          Quote: Amateur
          There is a museum of political repression. Neither more nor less.

          Is this right? From a religious point of view? Previously, in the St. Isaac's Cathedral there were exhibits of the Inquisition on the lower level, and on the upper level there were eastern cults and the Hindu God Ganesha with the head of an elephant. There were complaints that it was wrong and they were transferred. Inquisition ---- in Petropavlovka. Ganesha ---- I don’t know.
          1. +13
            April 16 2020 08: 49
            Is this right?

            And Jesus went into the temple of God and drove out all those who sold and bought in the temple, and overturned the tables of the exchangers and the benches of the selling pigeons, and said to them: It is written - My house will be called a house of prayer; and you made him a den of robbers.

            - (Matthew 21: 12-13)

            Jesus priests is not a decree.
          2. -1
            April 16 2020 21: 00
            Wildly sorry! I was at the Museum of the History of Religion and Atheism once. In the 94th or 95th year. 9 or 10 years was. It was not St. Isaac's, but Kazan Cathedral.!
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Quote: Amateur
            There is a museum of political repression. Neither more nor less.

            Is this right? From a religious point of view? Previously, in the St. Isaac's Cathedral there were exhibits of the Inquisition on the lower level, and on the upper level there were eastern cults and the Hindu God Ganesha with the head of an elephant. There were complaints that it was wrong and they were transferred. Inquisition ---- in Petropavlovka. Ganesha ---- I don’t know.

            Then the exhibits were moved.
        2. -7
          April 16 2020 09: 54
          Quote: Amateur
          There is a museum of political repression. Neither more nor less

          There, neither more nor less:
          Museum exposition located in the gallery of the current temple. It is based on materials telling about the history of the Temple - a monument in honor of the victory in the Patriotic War of 1812, about his role and significance in the life of Russia.
          A separate section is devoted the history of the construction, destruction and reconstruction of the Cathedral of Christ Savior. Among its unique exhibits are competitive projects of the Temple and the Palace of Soviets with interiors, fragments of marble memorial slabs from the former church with half-erased inscriptions, which served as steps in the Tretyakov Gallery in Soviet times

          Genuine exhibits are of particular interest: miraculously surviving after the explosion, the mortgage plaque of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior of 1839, as well as works of monumental, visual and decorative and applied art.
          http://www.museum.ru/M1868

          And what is wrong?

          Or there was no explosion The main monument to the fallen Russian soldiers ОВ 1812 r?

          History should be known ALL, and not be like the Nazis from the Baltic states, who "know" only what is convenient for themselves and create false pseudo "museums".

          .
          The steps through which millions have passed, not knowing that the names of the Heroes are being trampled ....
          1. +3
            April 16 2020 11: 27
            Quote: Olgovich
            History needs to know EVERYTHING

            I do not want to "turn on" anyone and fight for "political expediency".
            But ...
            It is impossible to know the whole story.
            This I mean that usually the actions of bastards with the intent of some in order to defeat ideological opponents are transferred from the everyday level to the political system as a whole.
            It's like Ukrainians with a famine ...
            The same is true for the "cleansing" in the army, and the expulsion of the "peoples", the re-education of the "kulaks" ...

            Any crimes should be considered very specifically.
            Find the specific culprit, that is, the scammer and beneficiary.
            With scammers, in most cases it’s quite simple.
            But find out. who moved into the vacated apartment, who married a widow, who pulled property, who took office, who took away punishment ....

            If you don't. then the "repression" will be an eternal ping-pong - "the whites drowned the barge with the communists," and "the commies rotted the priests in the camps" ...
            And all individual cases, as a rule, were true.

            But when it will be investigated that the Communists were drowned in order to stop the spread of truth and people's self-esteem in complete impotence, and the priests were spread rot for inciting political hostility and calls for terrorism (I specifically give today's wording), then it will only be possible to realize those events that Today we are trying in every possible way to avoid.
            Even at the cost of dying out the inner thirst for justice.
            1. +3
              April 16 2020 12: 21
              Even at the cost of dying out the inner thirst for justice.

              I came to this museum by accident. We brought our grandchildren to the New Year tree in the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. And only children were allowed on it. And it was very cold outside. Therefore, we went to the temple. We had to wait about an hour and a half. I carefully examined everything and accidentally stumbled upon this exhibition. I was in shock. Priests must bear love for God and people for each other. And at this exhibition, everything is riddled with such hatred that only you wonder. Most of the exposition, by the way, is dedicated not to the KhS temple, but to the persecution of the church in 20-30 years.
              Now essentially. The Bolsheviks (mainly the so-called Commissars, most of whom were not Orthodox) blew up temples, blew up. But at the same time they built schools. How many literate priests were there in Russia and how many were under the communists? That is the whole answer.
              1. +5
                April 16 2020 12: 36
                Quote: Amateur
                The Bolsheviks (mainly the so-called Commissars, most of whom were not Orthodox) blew up temples, blew up.

                Even this is not the full truth.
                They broke it, blew it up by many people, of course, under the leadership of staunch communists. But really there were most of the simplest people ...

                I can add to this that in the family the last books of scripture were burned around 1956 by my uncle, upon returning home from school ...
                Mother could not stop him.

                Well, what a bitterness among the people was sitting against the churchmen ...
                Today’s hierarchs of the Russian Orthodox Church did not draw any conclusions from history.
              2. -7
                April 16 2020 13: 41
                Quote: Amateur
                And at this exhibition, everything is riddled with such hatred that only you wonder. Most of the exposition, by the way, is dedicated not to the KhS temple, but to the persecution of the church in 20-30 years.

                Is it true?
                Still would...
                Quote: Amateur
                Now essentially. The Bolsheviks (mainly the so-called Commissars, most of whom were not Orthodox) blew up temples, blew up. But at the same time they built schools. How many literate priests were there in Russia and how many were under the communists? That is the whole answer.

                In Russia, with priests, before the thieves, they built 4-5 thousand schools per year, at komkh for 10 years they did not build ANYTHING.

                So, count how many millions got their education LATER than in Russia.

                By the way, during the commune from 1952 to 1990, the number of schools decreased byand 50 schools.
                That's the whole answer.
                1. 0
                  April 16 2020 13: 49
                  The entire population of Russia, the literacy rate is 21,1, including: European Russia - 22,9% Caucasus - 12,4% Siberia - 12,3% Central Asia - 3,3%. (1897 census)

                  In the 1959 census, 98,7% of the urban population and 98,2% of the rural population aged 9-49 called themselves literate,
                  1. -6
                    April 16 2020 13: 57
                    Quote: Amateur
                    The entire population of Russia, the literacy rate is 21,1, including: European Russia - 22,9% Caucasus - 12,4% Siberia - 12,3% Central Asia - 3,3%. (1897 census)

                    In the 1959 census, 98,7% of the urban population and 98,2% of the rural population aged 9-49 called themselves literate,

                    for tankers:
                    In Russia, with priests, before the Thieves, 4-5 thousand schools were built a year, with a commune for 10 years until 1927 -not built a single.

                    count how many millions were educated later than in Russia.

                    By the way, during the commune from 1952 to 1990, the number of schools decreased by 50 schools.
                    1. -1
                      April 16 2020 14: 10
                      If my numbers are (from Wiki)
                      for tankers:

                      Then your numbers
                      By the way, during the commune from 1952 to 1990, the number of schools decreased by 50 schools.

                      for bulk and love sable
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            2. -6
              April 16 2020 12: 45
              Quote: Sergey S.
              It is impossible to know the whole story.
              This I mean that usually the actions of bastards with the intent of some in order to defeat ideological opponents are transferred from the everyday level to the political system as a whole.
              It's like Ukrainians with a famine ...
              The same is true for the "cleansing" in the army, and the expulsion of the "peoples", the re-education of the "kulaks" ...

              Any crimes must be dealt with extremely. specifically.
              Find specific guilty that is, the scammer and beneficiary.

              Specifically: they blew up the Main monument to the Heroes of OV 1812 (yes / no)?
              Crime (yes / no)?

              The same, specifically, concerns the robbery and the extrajudicial, wild inhumanity, deportation of millions of children and women to the north of Narym and the Arkhangelsk region in 30 degrees of frost in "open-air shakes"
              the same for the rest
              Quote: Sergey S.
              But when it will be investigated that the Communists were drowned, so that in complete impotence stop the spread of truth and national self-esteemя

              belay lol
              "Truth" ... from pathological liars? What relation do they have, by the way, to the people?
              He NEVER, NEVER, chose.
              What, 70 years was not enough to investigate "? lol
              Quote: Sergey S.
              and priests were spread rot for inciting political hostility and calls for terrorism

              fool
              not calls, but real The terrorists, the Gestapo and SS men, the Supreme Court of the USSR RECOGNIZED the top leader of the Red Army, the beginning of the General Staff (until 1926), the Predsmin, a bunch of his deputies, people's commissars, deputies, ALL the first SNK, ALL Politburo (first), 75% of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and others.
              all communists.

              Everything is extremely specific. Yes
          2. +2
            April 16 2020 12: 55
            olgovich
            The full story of the construction of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior is very * smelling * .....
            There, and raising funds for the construction and theft of almost more than half of the funds and the construction itself is such that even during the construction they struggled with wall cracks and subsidence of the entire structure. Since the curators were representatives of the reigning house, there were no investigations into the thefts.
            Take an interest in justifying the demolition of that building. The engineers and architects who wrote the demolition report were believers.
          3. 0
            April 16 2020 13: 05
            By the way:
            The first temple.
            construction managers were accused of embezzlement and put on trial. The process lasted eight years [22]. (Wiki)

            Not built
            The second temple.
            The emperor also chose a new place on Volkhonka, which at that time was called Chertolje; the buildings there were bought up and demolished, including the Alekseevsky Convent - a monument of the XNUMXth century, later transferred to Krasnoye Selo. The people have preserved the tradition that Mother Superior, dissatisfied with the demolition of historical buildings and the transfer of the Alekseyev monastery, cursed the builders and predicted: "This place should be empty"[25]. (Wiki)

            Ruined.
            Third temple (which is now). The reputation of Muscovites is "ambiguous".
            So the story of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior on Volkhonka continues.
            1. -4
              April 16 2020 13: 46
              Quote: Amateur
              Ruined.
              Third temple (which is now). The reputation of Muscovites is "ambiguous".
              So the story of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior on Volkhonka continues.

              This is a monument to the fallen Russian heroes OV 1812

              with their names embossed in gold.

              They were allowed to rubble.

              This is the norm only for nonhumans.
  3. +6
    April 16 2020 07: 11
    I started reading the article in the hope of finding out in detail about the expositions, seeing the photos, remembering for the future (suddenly I’ll be in those parts, I’ll go) ... But I ran into "propaganda", salty with loud phrases. True, after reading to the end and noticing the author's surname, I realized that another could not have been expected ...
  4. +8
    April 16 2020 07: 15
    smile There is no need to blame the mirror ... In Yekaterinburg, an integral center - the savior from the Soviet occupation ... Such centers should be in every former republic that would know the "savior" .. laughing
    1. +2
      April 16 2020 08: 07
      Quote: parusnik
      smile There is no need to blame the mirror ... In Yekaterinburg, an integral center - the savior from the Soviet occupation ... Such centers should be in every former republic that would know the "savior" .. laughing

      Well, of course! Sure! Everyone knows about this "masterpiece" am I am now reading the book "Constructivist towns in Sverdlovsk 20s - 30s." Nobody knows that the improvement of living conditions, work, study, the emergence of sanatoriums and stadiums has begun since the 20s! In different cities. And it was interrupted with the beginning of the war.
    2. +6
      April 16 2020 10: 22
      The center of this "savior" of the people of Russia from a good life was erected in Sverdlovsk with the active participation of his heir - appointee, with the letter "Pu ...".
      The one who raised our retirement age, who stubbornly refuses to introduce a tax on the rich, who pursues such a "talented" domestic and foreign policy that the country is sliding into a political, economic and demographic hole right before our eyes!
      The student became worthy of his teacher, cursed by all of Russia!
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    1. +17
      April 16 2020 08: 03
      Quote: professor
      Among the various striking manifestations of anti-Soviet and Russophobia,

      No need to put an equal sign between anti-Soviet and Russophobic. The Russian people suffered from Soviet power no less than other peoples.

      In general, the USSR was a prison of peoples and one should not be surprised that the liberated peoples do not like their captor, despite the fact that he gave a roof, a balancer and a robe. We must respect our neighbors and then there will be a chance for respect on their part.

      Thanks to this "prison of peoples", these same peoples have preserved their national identity, culture, traditions, and yes, it was the USSR that initiated the creation of Israel.
      1. +3
        April 16 2020 08: 29
        Well, it would be nice, next to such a museum, there were museums nearby, as they lived before the USSR, preferably in the depths of time! Like no hospitals, no sanatoriums, no universities. And there weren’t any stadiums
        1. +3
          April 16 2020 13: 01
          reptiloid
          The symbol of * the state bond * of the RUSSIAN EMPIRE, in the proposed museum, should put a chopping block with an ax and a flogging tool (to Ozly), on which they flogged regardless of the floor or age, and next to the priest blessing all this.
          1. +2
            April 16 2020 13: 21
            Quote: Vasily50
            reptiloid
            The symbol of * the state bond * of the RUSSIAN EMPIRE, in the proposed museum, should put a chopping block with an ax and a flogging tool (to Ozly), on which they flogged regardless of the floor or age, and next to the priest blessing all this.
            We flogged in our city. on the exit. Such a place was on Sennaya Square, where there is now a small cafe opposite the metro building. Barin or someone else wrote a note and the punished one was supposed to come there on his own, maybe a kilometer of meters for 10-12. Although from Okhta, at least from the Vyborg side. Be flogged, then go back. At least a man, at least women
            Also put in that museum information about the dead up to 30 years. Such was the average age, life expectancy
      2. -8
        April 16 2020 10: 12
        Quote: Sayan
        Thanks to this "prison of peoples", these same peoples have preserved their national identity, culture, traditions, and yes, it was the USSR that initiated the creation of Israel.

        1. The colonialists always declare "these same peoples have preserved their national identity, culture, traditions" and usually add about how many schools, hospitals and roads they have built without mentioning all the delights of colonization.
        2. The initiator of the creation of Israel was not a scoop in every way obstructing the Zionist movement, but this very Zionist movement. Herzel, Trumpeldor, Jabotinsky ...
        1. +4
          April 16 2020 13: 36
          Where is the museum of the occupation of Palestine by Israel? or here, too, the Jewish colonialists do not recognize themselves as colonialists?
          1. -2
            April 16 2020 14: 36
            Quote: Kronos
            Where is the museum of the occupation of Palestine by Israel? or here, too, the Jewish colonialists do not recognize themselves as colonialists?

            There is no museum since there is no occupation, captain evidence.
            Did the Jews occupy Judea with the Arabs who came there from Arabia? a curtain. good
            1. +2
              April 16 2020 14: 38
              That was thousands of years ago; now other peoples live there for a long time. USSR also did not occupy anyone
              1. -4
                April 16 2020 14: 41
                Quote: Kronos
                That was thousands of years ago; now other peoples live there for a long time.

                Not other "peoples", but "people". Jews live in Judea.

                Quote: Kronos
                USSR also did not occupy anyone

                Right Finland, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and further on the list occupied the USSR, and not vice versa, as the lying bourgeoisie claim.
                1. +1
                  April 16 2020 14: 42
                  They voluntarily became part of the USSR. The residents wished this.
                  1. -4
                    April 16 2020 14: 45
                    Quote: Kronos
                    They voluntarily became part of the USSR. The residents wished this.

                    ... and those who did not want to voluntarily sent to the camps. But only those who survived. 40 Polish officers were out of luck.

                    -What did Comrade Petka shout before committing suicide?
                    - I beg you, do not shoot me, comrades.
    2. +9
      April 16 2020 08: 10
      That is not necessary for the eternal for the enemies of the USSR lies and hypocrisy. On the territory of the USSR, all 100 years after the October Revolution, there are two fundamentally different people in EVERYTHING - the Soviet and your anti-Soviet, including the fact that your anti-Soviet people, the ANTI-Soviet, is your "ideology" and the "history" of your country, and the only you justify your capture of the USSR, the responsibility for the capture and dismemberment of which you cowardly blamed on the Soviet communists, because you have nothing good either FOR yourself, FOR what you yourself have done, nor FOR your country and people,
    3. -10
      April 16 2020 08: 15
      I agree. anti-Soviet is not equal to Russophobe. Political structures come and go, the person remains. The main thing is to remain a person during the period of these very "ways"
      1. +7
        April 16 2020 08: 21
        BISMARCK94 (Alexander)
        I agree. anti-Soviet is not equal to Russophobe.
        The anti-adviser is ALWAYS russophobe, a lot of examples, I’m tired of listing.
        It was in the USSR (especially under Stalin) that they tried to grow a new MAN, not a consumer, but a creator. And it almost succeeded. But only with the coming to power of Judas Khrushchev, everything again slipped into banal consumerism. Apparently human nature is very difficult to break.
        1. -12
          April 16 2020 08: 27
          not the consumer, but the creator

          Well, what does "creator" mean? How is he different from a person, for example in Japan? The line of birth-kindergarten-school-work-death seems to be the same. And the rockets seem to fly and the nuclear power plants are standing. And what was the “creator” to do so cool?
          1. +2
            April 16 2020 08: 32
            BISMARCK94 (Alexander)
            Well, what does "creator" mean? How is he different from a person, for example in Japan?
            If you didn’t understand the essence of my comment right away, then I don’t see any point in explaining the difference between Soviet and Japanese. You still don’t understand.
            1. -11
              April 16 2020 08: 34
              Well, I haven’t even received an answer to the question. Be
            2. -1
              April 17 2020 15: 18
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              I don’t see any point in explaining the difference between Soviet man and Japanese

              Yes, still simple, old joke, classic:

              ... but what about our cities, factories, cars ???
              - No. Everything you do with your hands, you do poorly. Children. Only children ...

              So much for the difference. request
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        3. +3
          April 16 2020 09: 46
          Quote: Varyag_0711
          The anti-adviser is ALWAYS russophobe, a lot of examples, I’m tired of listing.

          These guys were always "in bulk". But recently I learned about how in 1919 two republics of the UPR and ZUNR appeared in Ukraine, and between them there was "Zluka". But the former, led by S. Petliura, fought against the Russians, and the latter fought against the Poles. The Poles took Lvov and threw back the GA (Galician Army) across the Zbruch River. Here the "Petliurites" and the GA merged, and together with the Poles took Kiev. Petliura had an army of 15 people. but there were about 000 "bayonets", then there were 2000 in the GA, and the GA was called UGA (Ukrainian Galician Army). But after the capture of Kiev, these lads did not want to fight the Russians, and went over to Denikin's side, the result was "Separation". Having fought a little together with the "Denikinites", the Galicians went over to the side of the Bolsheviks, and the army received the name CHUGA (Chervona Ukrainian Galician Army). And now, understand these anti-Sovietists, especially in Ukraine.
          1. -2
            April 16 2020 09: 58
            In Ukraine, it’s difficult to understand anything at all. Their small-town seluk mentality does not lend itself at all to a normal understanding. It all comes down to several postulates:
            1. My hut is on the edge, I don’t know anything.
            2. That I do not squeeze, so I bite.
            3. Take it from a neighbor, everything that lies badly. What lies well, especially.
            4. Neighbor, let me eat something, otherwise I have nothing to shit at your door.
            5. And us for sho ?!
            So where did they get all this from? Maybe the fact is that, since the time of the Batu invasion, this region has been constantly under someone’s third-party control (ON, Poland, the Crimean Khanate, Austria-Hungary)? In general, I don’t understand how the part of the essence of the Russian people turned into Ukrainians?
            I catch myself thinking that the word Ukrainian has recently acquired an abusive character for me, worse than a fascist.
            1. 0
              April 16 2020 10: 36
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              was this region constantly under someone else’s control (ON, Poland, Crimean Khanate, Austria-Hungary)?

              No doubt all named, plus Turks as well. Dope from the Turks and Krymchaks, but Russophobia from the Poles and Austrians. Well, everything else you have cited, it’s your own, no one has taught them this. Although there were and are many great and good people in Ukraine, I am grateful to many of them.
        4. -3
          April 16 2020 14: 37
          Quote: Varyag_0711
          The anti-adviser is ALWAYS russophobe, a lot of examples, I’m tired of listing.

          Yes Yes. Millions of white emigrants suddenly became Russophobes.
          1. -2
            April 16 2020 14: 43
            Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
            Yes Yes. Millions of white emigrants suddenly became Russophobes.
            They did not suddenly become, they have always been since their birth. Because apart from themselves beloved, they did not recognize anyone else for the people, the rest were for them servants, subhuman.

            By the way, all emigrants, or almost all of them, are the most ardent enemies of Russia and Russians, you are one of the most striking examples of this.
            1. -2
              April 16 2020 14: 50
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              They did not suddenly become, they have always been since their birth. Because apart from themselves beloved, they did not recognize anyone else for the people, the rest were for them servants, subhuman.

              And what does this have to do with Russophobia?

              Quote: Varyag_0711
              By the way, all emigrants, or almost all of them, are the most ardent enemies of Russia and Russians, you are one of the most striking examples of this.

              1. I am not a white emigrant.
              2. I am an anti-Soviet, but not Russophobe. I am against the scoop in which country it would not have been created. The USSR, Bulgaria or Cuba are equally disgusting to me. For the Russian people, I have respect and sympathy.
              1. -2
                April 16 2020 15: 12
                Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                And what does this have to do with Russophobia?
                Direct. When they were thrown off, they came to kill their people because they refused to feed these dung lice and came not alone, but on the bayonets of the invaders. They repeated the same thing during the Second World War, going with the Nazis to fight against their own people.
                1. I am not a white emigrant.
                White emigrant or just an emigrant no difference, horseradish radish is not sweeter.
                I am an anti-Soviet, but not Russophobe. I am against the scoop in which country it would not have been created. The USSR, Bulgaria or Cuba are equally disgusting to me.
                Actually this is what you yourself said.
                For the Russian people, I have respect and sympathy.
                Aha, sympathy rushes from all your cracks with a stinking substance. Leave your "love and sympathy" with you, she did not give up to us for nothing beyond the barn. For me it is better to have an open enemy than such petty "friends" from a hostile state.
                I am an anti-Soviet, but not Russophobe.
                It only seems so to you, you still need to look for Russophobes like you and your Israeli comrades.
                1. -3
                  April 16 2020 20: 58
                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  Direct. When they were thrown off, they came to kill their people because they refused to feed these dung lice and came not alone, but on the bayonets of the invaders. They repeated the same thing during the Second World War, going with the Nazis to fight against their own people.

                  Are you talking about Tukhachevsky poisoning men with chemical warfare agents? Or food and food tax? Maybe about the famine? All this the White Guards arranged. Whether it is the Bolsheviks. They always only cared about the people.

                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  White emigrant or just an emigrant no difference, horseradish radish is not sweeter.

                  You know better. You are a specialist in emigration issues.

                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  Actually this is what you yourself said.

                  I never hid how I feel about the scoop.

                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  Aha, sympathy rushes from all your cracks with a stinking substance. Leave your "love and sympathy" with you, she did not give up to us for nothing beyond the barn. For me it is better to have an open enemy than such petty "friends" from a hostile state.

                  For the Russian people, I have respect and sympathy. You will not find any of my comments containing disrespect for the Russian people.

                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  It only seems so to you, you still need to look for Russophobes like you and your Israeli comrades.

                  Do not transfer your complexes to others. We have not lived in the neighborhood with you for a long time, and the puddles in your entrances have not disappeared. Maybe it was not our fault?
        5. -2
          April 19 2020 14: 58
          It turns out that the Soviet and Russian synonyms?
    4. +6
      April 16 2020 09: 02
      If the Jews again worried about the fate of the Russian people ..... wait for trouble ....
      1. -1
        April 16 2020 10: 38
        Quote: apro

        If the Jews again worried about the fate of the Russian people.

        Until now, the revolution and the civil war are recalled with trembling.
    5. +5
      April 16 2020 10: 24
      Quote: professor
      The Russian people suffered from Soviet power no less than other peoples.


      Well, you can’t worry about the Russian people. And I don’t consider myself a victim.

      Quote: professor
      In general, the USSR was a prison of peoples


      Are you sure a Jew? I always believed that this nation has high mental abilities. Disappointed!

      Quote: professor
      don't like their captor


      This is probably about the Palestinians.
      Quote: professor
      in spite of the fact that he gave a roof, a balancer and a robe.
    6. +1
      April 16 2020 10: 42
      Professor (Sokolov Oleg) Find on the net a cycle (10) of documentaries "USSR - Reverse Empire".
    7. -1
      April 16 2020 10: 43
      Quote: professor
      In general, the USSR was a prison of peoples and one should not be surprised that the liberated peoples do not like their captor

      And the Russian people still recall with horror the times of your dominance since 1917. Thanks to Comrade Stalin.
    8. +2
      April 16 2020 11: 29
      Quote: professor
      In general, the USSR was a prison of peoples

      After such statements, you should call a doctor and make a diagnosis.
      1. -3
        April 16 2020 13: 45
        Quote: Sergey S.
        Quote: professor
        In general, the USSR was a prison of peoples

        After such statements, you should call a doctor and make a diagnosis.

        ... and then you wonder why your neighbors do not want to do business with you? Start to respect them and they will respect you and there will be no such museums.
        1. +1
          April 16 2020 16: 12
          Quote: professor
          ... and then you wonder why your neighbors do not want to do business with you? Start to respect them and they will respect you and there will be no such museums.

          Apparently you have problems with smell.
          It stinks, but you don’t feel.

          Imagine the situation.
          Hitler was respected ... and all is well!
          So this is exactly what Hitler wanted ...

          This will not happen!
          And the Hitlers should know that there are People who refuse to respect them.
          And let them build museums with a fake history.
          Victory will be ours!
  6. +5
    April 16 2020 07: 44
    In terms of ideology, these "museums" are rather anti-Soviet. But for ordinary people "Soviet" and "Russian" are identical concepts.
    Journalists (?) Work amazingly in the West. All immigrants from the USSR are called "Russian mafia". But cultural and scientific workers have a proud ethnic lineage.
    1. +8
      April 16 2020 08: 16
      This is not for ordinary people, it is an axiom that anti-Sovietism is ALWAYS equal to Russophobia. The enemies of the Communists who seized the republics of the USSR, including the RSFSR, immediately began to destroy not only the Soviet, but also the Russian. And what is their relationship to centuries-old Russia before the October Revolution? The enemies of the Communists who captured the RSFSR pulled out of the entire period of pre-revolutionary Russia only the reign of one - the last Russian monarch, to create another heap of their anti-Soviet myths, and the remaining enemies of the Communists - the pre-revolutionary period is how the Russians occupied and oppressed them.
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    1. +1
      April 16 2020 09: 38
      And then who will we blame, with whom to argue? So that again there is one general, straight line - approvals. The opposition should be regardless of whether we like it or not.
  8. +4
    April 16 2020 08: 14
    If a telephone box, then with broken glass and a folding device ...

    Yeah, but the local unfortunate people broke and destroyed, showing their struggle with the Soviet government, introducing telephone communications, electric irons and other achievements of their time.
  9. +3
    April 16 2020 08: 27
    And ,, museums ,, are located in buildings built during the period of ,, Soviet occupation ,,?
  10. +3
    April 16 2020 08: 42
    Well, what can I say? There are many museums in Russia, and it would be necessary in every local history museum, which is in every regional city of the Russian Federation, to put up a stand where to place calculations in figures, how much this region lost to its own detriment during the Soviet era, transferring its resources to the so-called " fraternal republics "or, conversely, acquired when he was helped by" brothers "in the USSR. Such documents are not difficult to lay out, because the archives of the State Planning Commission, the State Committee for Supply and the Allied ministries and departments have survived. Let our youth know the truth, so as not to feel indebted to someone, or should be grateful for the help provided.
  11. +4
    April 16 2020 08: 47
    Suppose they put shacks in the museums (what happened), and next to them are mock-ups of factories (what the bastards have built by the occupants), well, and the third mock-ups of dilapidated factories and residents standing with outstretched hands toward the west (what became when the occupants left).
  12. +4
    April 16 2020 08: 59
    According to the reviews of the vast majority of professional historians, the cognitive value of such museums is negligible,


    Then why talk about them at all?
  13. 0
    April 16 2020 09: 04
    In general, the enemies of the USSR on the territory of the USSR love to pretend to be victims "we are all so innocently repressed, deported for no reason, starved, occupied". They have a bunch of plebeian show-offs, but there is completely no self-esteem.
  14. 0
    April 16 2020 09: 15
    The simplest example is that in Tallinn, visitors at the entrance are greeted by two impressive metal structures that represent “steam locomotives”.
    Every day I drive around this museum, but I myself have not been there, and have never seen any people. There is simply a museum for a museum, they say, here we also have such a museum. But it is interesting in Kyev there are fools who visit the "Holodomor Museum" and the Bandera Museum.
    1. +1
      April 16 2020 11: 35
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Every day I drive around this museum, but I myself was not there, and I never saw any people

      And you will guarantee that your grandchildren will also just walk by?
      The education of indifference to lies is also included in the goals of bourgeois propaganda.
      The truth is needed to make society a monolithic force, which is not part of the goals of bourgeois propaganda.
      1. +2
        April 16 2020 11: 57
        Quote: Sergey S.
        And you will guarantee that your grandchildren will also just walk by?

        And why should I vouch, if I know that my grandchildren who are 29 years old, 24 years old and 17 years old pass by and will pass by. They were brought up by me, by my sons and my father, a Veteran of the Finnish, Patriotic and Japanese wars.
        1. +1
          April 16 2020 11: 59
          Quote: tihonmarine
          They were brought up by me, by my sons and my father, a Veteran of the Finnish, Patriotic and Japanese wars.

          You and your loved ones honor and respect.
          1. 0
            April 16 2020 12: 46
            Quote: Sergey S.
            You and your loved ones honor and respect.

            Thank you!
  15. -2
    April 16 2020 09: 28
    I read the article ... Comments ... And the question arises: how much will we look at least at the Warsaw Pact countries at least at the countries of the former USSR and ask what they do there with monuments, which museums they build there, which cemeteries are turned over? Maybe it’s enough for someone else’s monastery with its charter?
  16. 0
    April 16 2020 09: 33
    Create the same museums, tell them about Bandera, the green brothers, the Basmachi, talk about the limotrophs sitting on their necks ...
    Like-like. And all these "noble ones do not notice" ...
    1. +4
      April 16 2020 09: 42
      Only who will allow them to be created if all the former republics of the USSR are owned by enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people, in which slander of everything Soviet is the only excuse for seizing the republics of the USSR by them for 30 years.
    2. 0
      April 16 2020 12: 28
      Quote: Cottodraton
      To create the same museums, tell them about Bandera, the green brothers, the Basmachi, and talk about the limotrophs sitting on their necks.

      But for now, they are creating centers for Yeltsin and erecting monuments to Italians, Czech legionnaires and German invaders. It is especially painful for me to look at the city of Dukhovschina of the long-suffering Smolensk region.

      Here is the cemetery of the Nazis in the Spiritual.
  17. +4
    April 16 2020 10: 21
    Oh my God ... whatever they blame ... you need to cover YOUR museums .. starting from the parasite of Solzhenitsyn .. and ending like we have in Tomsk, the museum has been repression for 37 years! The NKVD prison! so .. when we clean out the parasites, then you can ask from others!
  18. +1
    April 16 2020 10: 48
    The main thing is when these creep out asking for help (any) - cry together, feel sorry for the poor children and grandmothers, blow your nose - and refuse! ... IMHO.
  19. +1
    April 16 2020 11: 46
    In Tomsk, directly opposite the city hall, there is a museum-prison of the NKVD, so we are not far from the Baltic states. This is called in his own eye the log is not visible.
  20. 0
    April 16 2020 13: 10
    Who is prevented from opening the museum of Bandera and Co., somewhere in Rostov and showing their inhumanity?
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  22. +4
    April 16 2020 20: 32
    Everything is natural. The separatist elites must by all means ensure that the population does not try to return to a single country. And for this, myths are created that the population of the former republics was occupied by evil Russians, who mercilessly tyrannized them. And from here all the arguments that in a single country the population of these republics lived better are exposed as collaboration. Like, now it's an ass, but then we are free from the evil Russians, and those who say otherwise are agents of the FSB, the Kremlin and Putin personally. request
  23. +1
    April 16 2020 22: 53
    "You see, Yura ..." in 1985, the "top" sold us. And there are no other "tops". All these museums are trolling in kindergarten compared to what they did to the mass consciousness of people, especially those born in "Russia of democratic choice", especially in "Ukraine". If the state survives, something must be done ...
  24. 0
    April 17 2020 08: 32
    It is sad that there are such "museums" under our noses and not only museums, for example, the ebn center, how do you like it? It is interesting to hear the author's opinion about the Solzhenitsyn Museum - how is it? The CSU has a lot of interesting things on this topic - I don't even want to describe it. You have to start with yourself.
  25. 0
    April 17 2020 08: 43
    So, if they believe that they were occupied, then it should be related to the citizens of these countries, as to the natives of the occupied territories, and this should be fixed at the legislative level. Since they believe that they were placed in the 2nd grade, let them be why they disappoint.
  26. +1
    April 17 2020 20: 43
    nothing surprising. similar museums were created to strengthen power. and the people / elite in power sharing the anti-Soviet ideology. and according to current realities, this ideology is safely transformed into Russophobic
  27. 0
    April 18 2020 07: 52
    Of course, the authorities are engaged in this, and not the people. Divide and rule!...
  28. +2
    April 18 2020 17: 38
    And what surprises the author? Let's look at Russia: a coward, a traitor and a scoundrel Solzhenitsyn is being studied in schools, a struggling drunkard, an overgrown boar is one thing that has not yet been canonized. "EBN.ty center" was built and happily plows, washing the loot of the Consulate General of mattresses. By the way, at the stopping points there are posters "our separation is not for long, we will meet soon" from this hotbed of dirt and treason.
    I live in Yekaterinburg, I see. Moreover, instead of self-isolation we plow with seven days a week.
  29. 0
    April 19 2020 09: 49
    Anti-Soviet museums are "typical, because they reflect the" typical "machine for establishing regimes loyal to the USSR in Eastern Europe. All oppositional national-bourgeois regimes and their leaders were destroyed. Suppressed bourgeois Christian dissidence, closed all opposition media
    National religiosity was forcibly reduced to the level of a museum ethnographic exhibit. All that the government of Bolshevik Russia did from the first steps of the Soviet regime.
    These museums reflect the current exaggerated desire of the liberated countries to demonstrate to themselves and the world their originality and "European community". Yes, there is a noticeable unified ideological and methodological support of curators from the USA and London, Paris and Berlin (all these political funds are not in vain eating their bread and butter - Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova show this perfectly) and the exchange of experience between museums. (just like the Soviet history museums were no less tendentious). And yes, in such purely ideological museums "fighters of the ideological front" are everywhere. They receive their salary for propaganda history, not for science history. And even belonging to the liberal culture of the West does not save them from narrow-minded doctrinairism and attempts to curry favor.

    In my opinion, a balanced view of all this to us is very hindered by our own Bolshevik past. We do not know how and really do not like to put ourselves in the place of an opponent. Moreover, we generally very dislike opponents! In Soviet political culture (more precisely, in political lack of culture), an opponent is a synonym for "enemy" (class enemy, ..., Trotskyist, pest, fascist dog, traitor, ... smelly dissident, fifth column, ... "). But, as Dmitry Furman correctly wrote in his essay "Inverted History of History"? From the ideology of perestroika to the ideology of "building capitalism" in Russia "," Free Thought "No. 3 1995
    (I really love this work, because it clearly shows the contradictions of post-Soviet Russia and the reasons for the failure of our dem. reforms):
    Russia is a "special case," and its democratic anti-communist ideology should have some fundamental differences from similar ideologies of other peoples for the simple reason that
    everyone - from Azerbaijanis to Hungarians - can see in the communist period the time of Russian domination, in communism - the system imposed by the Russians, and in the liberation from it - the liberation from the "Moscow tyranny". Russians, however, are the only nations liberated from communism whose anti-communist ideology cannot "write off" communism at someone else's expense and see national liberation in the overthrow of the communist system. What ideological consequences does this lead to? For the democratic anti-communist movements of other peoples, with all their differences, it is characteristic that national sentiment and anti-communism are "one-vector". In Russia, such a single vector cannot be.

    Looking from our pole, we do not want to understand the manifestations of this "one-vector" (and inevitably one-sided) vision of history and modernity. But I am sure that time will pass and they will become more balanced by that time. Future generations (for whom these events will become a distant history) will respectfully accept the sacrifices of our soldiers who liberated them from Nazism. And rightly they will complain about the "Soviet yoke". But even then they will be able to appreciate the good (the very "conquests of socialism" which the Author listed at the end of the article). But the time has not come yet. Look at what background is this all happening? - "New Cold War" is in the yard. It is accompanied by quite hot clashes at the borders (Ukraine) and in the zones of influence (Syria). Mysterious murders and suicides. Expulsion of diplomats and spies, noisy propaganda campaigns ... What do you want against such a background? Yes, and in our country, what is much better with "historical objectivity" today? (some attempts to include in the Constitution the requirements to "protect the historical truth" are worth what).
  30. 0
    April 19 2020 21: 50
    It is especially disgusting when people who are over 50-60 years old hayut and vilify everything Soviet. They then went to a free kindergarten and school, studied in free institutes (whose head was in place :) They used free medicine and other benefits of the USSR. And now, having received from Russian capitalism (uk..r, and other former republics of the USSR) a scanty pension, paid medicine and unavailable goods in the windows - WHOOL laughing

    It is necessary, citizens, to recall their past. There is nothing to compare youth with recourse
    1. 0
      April 21 2020 00: 02
      "Citizens, it is necessary to remember your past more objectively."


      I think, like ours, many ordinary people in the former countries of "people's democracies" also recall not without nostalgia that there was work, shipyards and factories were not closed. That young people did not need to leave for the West en masse. There was no prostitution, pornography, ethnic gangs and drugs. But they also have before their eyes examples of countries that were lucky to escape from the "tutelage" of the USSR - Finland, Austria. They built social-democratic regimes for themselves and without quartering Soviet divisions. They did not give up private property and religion. Monuments to someone else's "Mongol" Lenin were not erected everywhere. And there was neither Berlin 1948, nor Budapest 1958, nor Prague 1968. And those who survived 1948, 1958 and 1968 will not forget. They will not forget that in the West there were leftists of all stripes, from the Social Democrats to the "believers" of the Stalinists. And in the "barracks of the socialist camp" were bourgeois parties possible?

      Let's try it for ourselves, would you forget? Isn't it our slogan "Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten" - here it is in action, only on different material. Or should their memory be knocked off, how we were raised? But not all of Russia has "gaps" in its memory - we remember both the Victory and the Solovki. And Gagarin and the GULAG. Education, medicine and dispossession of kulaks, expulsions and prohibitions on professions for the declassed. "And the festival of 1957 and the" bulldozer exhibitions ", shameful trials of dissidents ... It is difficult, painful, insulting, but it will have to - this is precisely our Real, not rewritten History ...

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