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Scientists in the US have created a new variety of wheat, which experts call dangerous

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In the section “Let's talk about science” it is proposed to discuss topics related to the artificial breeding of new crops. In this case, the specific subject of discussion is the publication of the American Society of Agronomy (ASA), which says that geneticists and breeders in the United States managed to create a new wheat variety that has "unique properties."


ASA says that the new wheat variety is more resistant to climate change. So, it is able to grow in really harsh conditions.

According to the results of a study of the properties of a new variety of wheat, data were obtained that it contains more carbohydrates than any other known variety. We are talking about, among other things, a high content of fructose polymers called fructans.

One of the researchers:

Wheat with a high content of fructans has the property to grow and give a rich harvest, even on soils with a high salinity. It is also capable of growth at low temperatures.

It is noted that eating such wheat "can contribute to the development of healthy intestinal bacteria."

So far, breeders in the US say that they see “only one minus” in this kind of wheat: cultivation requires significant resources.

At the same time, scientists in the United States are engaged in the so-called genomic selection, during which they study the influence of the plant's genetic set on how this variety will manifest itself in real agriculture, and not on special soils in laboratory conditions. This, as stated, allows you to create a statistical model, including yield, and ultimately reduce to a minimum the breeding time of varieties with a high content of fructans.

Important addition to the study report:

However, there are some caveats regarding the use of genomic selection. For example, inbreeding can occur, which can reduce crop diversity. Decreasing diversity can make cultures susceptible to disease.

Inbreeding is the crossing of closely related biological forms.

Experts who have studied the work of scientists from the United States, consider the new wheat variety dangerous. It is noted that the appearance of such wheat in the fields can deplete the resources of agricultural soils faster than usual, which will increase the time for their restoration. Also, the variety is considered capable of crowding out more traditional varieties with a simultaneous increase in the susceptibility of those to cereal diseases.

However, ASA believes that the cultivation of such wheat "will have a positive effect on human health."
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  1. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 15 2020 19: 52 New
    +3
    Do not relax in any way.
    1. Engineer Schukin
      Engineer Schukin April 15 2020 20: 01 New
      +9
      Indeed, after all, we could, like us, kill our own science of selection, and also purchase seed material abroad.
      Then you would be happy with them.
      1. awdrgy
        awdrgy April 15 2020 20: 28 New
        +4
        You have data that is outdated for several months and for some seeds and years. And although it’s still a little tough with vegetable seeds, at this stage it’s just a matter of time, and relatively small, but with wheat, generally by the cash register
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 April 15 2020 22: 19 New
          12
          Strange article.
          Any high-yielding grain variety will deplete the soil.
          Some plants may have symbiont bacteria that absorb nitrogen from the air, such nitrogenous fertilizers are not needed. But besides nitrogen there is still a mass of fertilizers and microelements. So any high-yielding variety will deplete the soil.
          Yes, the same potato can fucking soil deplete if fertilizers are not used. Nobody will refuse from potatoes because of this.
          1. awdrgy
            awdrgy April 16 2020 00: 04 New
            +5
            Un-verified if manure is especially fertilized with goat for decades, the crop is awesome (and cow, too, is a cow and doesn’t complain that they sell current potato in the way they have a cow) For 8 years now we haven’t kept goats and we’ve got some goo the plot was depleted, though there we were grown for 30 years and sprinkled with all kinds of chemical fertilizers then a break of 10 years and we took 5 crops and kirdyk without fertilizers (though little mostly rabbit was sprinkled with manure) Old people say that this is because chemical fertilizers were sprinkled just before this and so it would be enough for 10 years, well, and in the process with a dung, consider for a very long time, all the more so you can leave part of the zemlyots for rest or sow beans and then again five potatoes!
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 April 16 2020 00: 28 New
              +5
              Quote: awdrgy
              if manure is fertilized with especially goat, then for decades an awesome crop

              If properly fertilized, the soil will never be depleted.
              Keyword - LITERATURE
              That's exactly the same with this wheat. With a competent farmer, nothing will be depleted or salted.
              1. awdrgy
                awdrgy April 16 2020 00: 44 New
                +4
                And we are dark, illiterate people, we just do as our ancestors did and all the way! And with wheat, this is not so simple, for every competent farmer has his own insanely competent scientist with left-hand thread)
            2. HaByxoDaBHocep
              HaByxoDaBHocep April 16 2020 01: 52 New
              +2
              Yes, yes, goat dung is the “top”, every year he pulled grass pounds of grass from the garden
          2. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh April 16 2020 00: 04 New
            -12
            In the article - "grandmother's fears" about GMO products.
            By the way, Russia needs them even more than America.
            Non-chernozems, frosts, droughts, long rains. Ordinary varieties die
            GMOs survive. And pesticides, which are abundantly watered with ordinary varieties, are not
            are needed. Even healthier.
            1. awdrgy
              awdrgy April 16 2020 00: 37 New
              +7
              Well, I don’t know, we are living in a non-chernozem region (a zone of risky farming), we have been hopping for generations; we don’t have anything A bed from breakfast until evening) and cucumbers, too, on nets and eggplant peppers and tomatoes, in greenhouses about berries, I generally keep quiet; I love it more with herring (cucumbers then the whole cellar is jammed and herring yes, we don’t have it) And we don’t use any pesticides - you’ll drive small bugs on the bugs (also attack the American one) and feed everything with chocolate
              1. Gennady Fomkin
                Gennady Fomkin April 17 2020 11: 57 New
                +1
                voyaka uh (Alexey) Strange comrade laughing From the "promised land" probably hangs and teaches laughing
                -
                1. awdrgy
                  awdrgy April 17 2020 17: 44 New
                  0
                  Yes, even no way these GMOs give him peace - he really wants us to plant them
            2. Vikxnumx
              Vikxnumx April 16 2020 08: 46 New
              0
              By the way, Russia needs them even more than America.

              And what vegetable ???
              We already have grain ... "You will be up to your waist" (c).
              With livestock there are plugs, and with hand guides!
            3. Gennady Fomkin
              Gennady Fomkin April 17 2020 11: 42 New
              0
              Eat on health Cossack laughing
          3. Paul Siebert
            Paul Siebert April 17 2020 11: 57 New
            +2
            Is it full of fruit?
            Means - it will be good to put the mash out of this modernized wheat.
            And if the pervachok is kicked out of her, he will be knocked down, like a blow with a hoof!
            True, abuse can cause various unexpected consequences ...
            Something will grow wrong ... wink
          4. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 April 17 2020 12: 30 New
            0
            Quote: Shurik70
            Strange article.
            Any high-yielding grain variety will deplete the soil.

            it is strange in that it grows at low temperatures! at 7 degrees, photosynthesis stops and growth too.
      2. orionvitt
        orionvitt April 15 2020 21: 17 New
        13
        Quote: Engineer Shchukin
        kill your own science of breeding

        Breeding and genetic engineering are two different things.
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky April 15 2020 21: 24 New
        23
        Quote: Engineer Shchukin
        Indeed, after all, we could, like us, kill our own science of selection, and also purchase seed material abroad.
        Then you would be happy with them.

        These are american "breeders" Doda have already experimented with coronavirus, the whole planet is sausage. They created insecticides that killed more than 50% of American bees on the continent, and the use of these chemicals in Russian fields last year led to massive deaths of bees in several regions. Now these reptilians are experimenting with the cultivation of artificial meat. They have already fried this meatboard from stem cells at $ 900 per schnitzel, and it is likely that when things get underway, all large-horned and cloven-hoofed cattle will die all over the planet from some bacillus grown in an American laboratory, and humanity will be forced to buy meat plywood from monopolists represented by American corporations. If mattresses decided to "take care" of humanity, then humanity should at least be wary and, as a maximum, begin to dry rusks from bread made from normal wheat and stock up on canned food.
        1. Vikxnumx
          Vikxnumx April 16 2020 08: 48 New
          0
          and the use of these chemicals in the fields of Russia last year led to the mass death of bees in several regions.

          A hare in the Stavropol Territory has died ...
        2. surok1
          surok1 April 17 2020 16: 44 New
          +2
          I read in Science and Life about PZK - protein green concentrate. Juice is squeezed out of any grass and it contains some ideal protein. It was coagulated and added to food and feed. In Belarus, these experiments were carried out, and before that in France. And I ask, where is this super-cheap protein that is perfect in composition now mentioned? All information is erased. Promote any non-natural dick.
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z April 15 2020 20: 15 New
      21
      Well, let them consume it later! Their gene games with products will not be brought to good.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira April 15 2020 20: 19 New
        15
        Let them consume. But why kill the Russian selection?
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok April 16 2020 09: 52 New
          -4
          That which is already dead cannot be killed.
      2. DMB 75
        DMB 75 April 15 2020 20: 29 New
        21
        the ASA believes that the cultivation of such wheat "will have a positive impact on human health."

        Yeah. Of course. All this chemistry and genetically modified products of any guardians of mankind like "Monsanta" and others like it, well, only have a positive effect on human health ... If you do not want to participate in a global experiment, carefully read everything that is written on the package. If pure genetically modified foods are rarely found on the Russian market, then, for example, canned food may well be GMO. That's how lucky my generation is - only natural products. It's really scary for our children and grandchildren.
        1. syndicalist
          syndicalist April 16 2020 07: 30 New
          -5
          There is not a single plant on Earth that would not appear as a result of GMOs under the influence of natural factors. Cosmic radiation, solar radiation, meteorite falls, volcanic eruptions and a host of other random factors triggered the GMO mechanism. Without this life on the planet would not exist at all.
    3. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 15 2020 20: 18 New
      12
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Do not relax in any way.

      I would drown all the fucking geneticists in bleach ....
      1. venik
        venik April 15 2020 21: 23 New
        +9
        Quote: Dead Day
        I would drown all the fucking geneticists in bleach ....

        =======
        Well, all the "geneticists" are already brute force! But the "gene engineers"- still - YES! It would not hurt!
        1. bondrostov
          bondrostov April 15 2020 21: 44 New
          +1
          What are you so about gene engineers ..? Ours, too, such developments are very successful just while we have prohibited GMOs
          1. Aag
            Aag April 16 2020 14: 57 New
            +1
            Well, yes. Here, as elsewhere, it must be wisely and without excesses. The only question is, where to collect the minds in the corresponding posts.
        2. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara April 16 2020 09: 30 New
          0
          Quote: venik
          Quote: Dead Day
          I would drown all the fucking geneticists in bleach ....

          =======
          Well, all the "geneticists" are already brute force! But the "gene engineers"- still - YES! It would not hurt!

          Then you should refuse vaccination as a protest.
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft April 15 2020 21: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: Gennady Fomkin
        Do not relax in any way.

        I would drown all the fucking geneticists in bleach ....

        about this they did with them in the 37th ...
        1. awdrgy
          awdrgy April 16 2020 01: 04 New
          0
          And them as geneticists of this or as enemies of the people?
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft April 16 2020 01: 40 New
            +2
            Quote: awdrgy
            And them as geneticists of this or as enemies of the people?

            As far as I "remember", the Party and the Government recognized genetics as a pseudo-science ...
            Venal genetics

            https://topwar.ru/157792-hronika-padenija-sovetskoj-genetiki.html
            Nikolai Vavilov, one of the biggest geneticists, was arrested in 1940 for his statements about the utopianism of Lysenko’s ideas. Immediately shoot the world-famous scientist in power did not have enough courage (given only 20 years), and he died in Saratov prison in 1943 year from the terrible conditions of detention. Along with him, several of his followers were arrested, some of them were shot immediately, and some were killed in camps.

            there ...
            1. awdrgy
              awdrgy April 16 2020 01: 52 New
              0
              I also read what was declassified from interrogations - so far everything is very ambiguous - "admitted all charges but rejected" espionage "?" - here it is a little strange then I did not stand on ceremony, I will continue to dig
            2. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 16 2020 08: 02 New
              +2
              Quote: Lara Croft
              The party and the government have recognized genetics as false science.

              So the "supreme" once spoke about the inadmissibility of raising the retirement age, and that he would no longer be re-elected. wink This is me to the fact that you should not rely on what they say today. hi
        2. venik
          venik April 16 2020 09: 30 New
          -2
          Quote: Lara Croft
          about this they did with them in the 37th ...

          ============
          You don’t know the story, Lara Croft! Not in the 37th, but in the 48th !!!
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft April 16 2020 12: 05 New
            -1
            Quote: venik
            Quote: Lara Croft
            about this they did with them in the 37th ...

            ============
            You don’t know the story, Lara Croft!

            Have you decided to troll? In vain ...
            Not in the 37th, but in the 48th !!!

            Why did the "Great Historian" decide to point exactly to the 48th?
            Nikolai Vavilov, one of the largest geneticists, was arrested in 1940 year
            Several of his followers were arrested with him.

            those. long before the "famous" session of the All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences named after V.I. Lenin, held in 1948.
            Until 1965, genetics in the USSR was publicly condemned, and research was conducted in a few islands of common sense.
            So why exactly the 48thif genetics was condemned and banned from the 30s to the mid 60s ....
            After all, scientists were put to the wall, sent to camps, to mental hospitals, and were not allowed to engage in this science before and after the 48th year .... until the 65th ...
    4. Finches
      Finches April 15 2020 21: 00 New
      +6
      The USA (and Great Britain) needs to be cut out of the Earth like moldy pieces of a still quite suitable pie and sent to the Moon or Mars - on the Ilona Mask rockets! laughing From Russia to them (in the trunk) to download all the lovers of the Anglo-Saxon world - those who have a residence permit, citizenship, who have finished all sorts of sharashkin offices there, and peace and harmony will reign for centuries!
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 16 2020 08: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        USA (and UK)

        Israel forgot! wink
        1. Finches
          Finches April 16 2020 10: 04 New
          0
          No, Jews, this is God's chosen people - I respect them!
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh April 16 2020 15: 51 New
            +3
            Well, thanks, respected! drinks
            But your words are prophetic. Anglo-Saxons really fly
            to the moon and Mars on Elon Musk’s rockets. Not all of course smile but will fly.
            1. awdrgy
              awdrgy April 16 2020 17: 10 New
              -1
              This is by all means because here all their land is poisoned by GMOs
    5. max702
      max702 April 17 2020 11: 09 New
      +1
      There is a wonderful work by Tarmashev "Heritage" about GMOs .. Although fiction at the beginning of the work there are a lot of facts about real events .. It is not easy to read .. If you discard the entire artistic component and look at the presented factual materials, then the picture is terrible .. Assuming that the author the future is sad for 5% of rights.
      1. Lyuba1965_01
        Lyuba1965_01 April 22 2020 23: 11 New
        +1
        I have never heard of such a writer or such a book. But after your mention of it I decided to read it, and therefore I am addressing you after so much time after your comment. Tell me, is everything that Tarmashev writes really true? Now I am reading, already on page 37. I am constantly checking the names that he mentions (everything is too strange and implausible) and, to my surprise, they are all real, like the facts about which he speaks, up to the rejection of GMO corn in Zambia. Honestly, I am very surprised and to some extent shocked. Is it also true that behind these corporations are not even the heads of government, but the so-called "supranational government"? If at least 1/100 of what the author writes about is true, then this is indeed the beginning of the end of mankind as we know it.
        1. max702
          max702 April 23 2020 14: 21 New
          0
          Yes, someone knows that .. But here the conclusions are not funny for various reasons .. I remember how GMO publicized the well-known magazine of bourgeois technologies a long time ago .. Now the virus .. and, in principle, the picture is similar. so far (despite the statements about the disease) no one has died from the powers that be .. Truly, there is an option that they will play and like in the book the situation is not completely calculated and will get out of control .. And about GMOs. Something has become quiet on this topic recently, the feeling that everyone has come to terms with it .. There’s the same problem, that GMOs will supersede everything else and there’s no way to get clean when they realize that something went wrong already nothing is possible .. And there is a big suspicion that this moment has ALREADY come on this and silence ..
          But the book is depressing .. Do not read the second part, obviously they wrote at the request of the publisher to raise money, it’s absolutely not interesting .. In principle, when the first comes to action it can be closed .. Although not, the world of the future is described there in part the arctic fox that came is very true ...
          1. Lyuba1965_01
            Lyuba1965_01 April 23 2020 16: 43 New
            0
            Thanks. All the sequels of this series are not very interesting, except for the first book, there are, in my opinion, 6 of this cycle? What about his other books? I found his bibliography, there is also about a climatic catastrophe ("Cold"), and about the consequences of a nuclear war ("To each his own"), and what else would you advise from reading this author?
            1. max702
              max702 April 23 2020 16: 50 New
              0
              According to rumors, this is a team of authors under the nickname "Tarmashev" fiction, a typical battle for an amateur .. But many technical issues are not badly considered .. In "Drevny" I liked the description of the massive use of nuclear weapons and the consequences thereof .. No blue sky and green lawns, but cold is hunger and inevitable death from radiation and other gifts of nuclear weapons .. And after thousands of years ..
              "To each his own" I have not read it is necessary to look at least I do not really like the post-apocalypse after "Letters of a Dead Man" ..
              1. Lyuba1965_01
                Lyuba1965_01 April 23 2020 19: 32 New
                0
                In general, the rest of the books in the "Heritage" cycle are not worth reading, am I right?
                1. max702
                  max702 April 23 2020 19: 46 New
                  0
                  It is the interesting material that is not there .. The feeling that the author was screwed up and he did everything to "blur" the series .. I wrote too much in the first ..
                  1. Lyuba1965_01
                    Lyuba1965_01 April 23 2020 21: 08 New
                    0
                    Thank you for a new book for me and a new interesting author .. Good luck to you, health, take care and don’t be ill.
  2. Alexander X
    Alexander X April 15 2020 19: 53 New
    12
    I recall some fantastic novels. In one of them, the genomodif was bred. plant - triffida. He began to hunt blind people and then ate them. and also romances, people who survived after several epidemics caused by artificial viruses searched for the surviving scientists and killed them. Well, in order to deal with such nonsense more ... It all seems to be going to this ...
    1. parusnik
      parusnik April 15 2020 20: 14 New
      +5
      I recall some fantastic novels
      .
      ... Here, here we are, born to make science fiction a reality ... By the way, a lot of bad things come true ...
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid April 15 2020 20: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: parusnik
        I recall some fantastic novels
        .
        ... Here, here we are, born to make science fiction a reality ... By the way, a lot of bad things come true ...

        Aleksey, but in fact, we have already achieved a lot! Relama, according to Robert Sheckley, of all semi-criminal services on a distant planet in the distant future ---- we have everything fulfilled
    2. AllBiBek
      AllBiBek April 15 2020 20: 23 New
      +7
      The best of the modern on this topic - kmk - "Clockwork" by Paolo Bachigalupi. A cross between biopunk and, oddly enough, clock-punk (all technologies there are on springs), but this is post-apocalyptic, and the theme of games with plant genes and wars of food corporations through this is one hundred percent disclosed.
      1. Kisa
        Kisa April 16 2020 03: 24 New
        +3
        I really liked the Tarmashev Legacy. highly recommend . the introductory part is the reality of our days around GMOs with all the real names of the companies, more documented and reliably based on the work of geneticists of virologist biologists. ... and then the flight of his thoughts how it will look in 300 years
    3. Tank hard
      Tank hard April 15 2020 21: 49 New
      +4
      Quote: Alexander X
      I recall some fantastic novels. In one of them, the genomodif was bred. plant - triffida. He began to hunt blind people and then ate them. and also romances, people who survived after several epidemics caused by artificial viruses looked for surviving scientists and killed them

      Day of the Triffids is the title of a novel by John Wyndham. I strongly recommend reading. hi
      1. Hagalaz
        Hagalaz April 16 2020 08: 28 New
        +1
        Literary translation, by the way, by the Strugatsky brothers. So the question of who "made" the book does not exist for me personally.
        hi
        PS: And there is a continuation. The night of the triphides is called.
    4. T.Henks
      T.Henks April 15 2020 21: 59 New
      +1
      Triffid Day is a cool piece. The movie is also not bad, the quality is only alas.
    5. Avior
      Avior April 15 2020 22: 44 New
      0
      about the flocks there was still. smile
      Day of Anger.
  3. awdrgy
    awdrgy April 15 2020 20: 03 New
    12
    And the seeds from it go fruitless in the second generation? Old song, buy from us once such a cool thing and then begin, the seeds of the herbicide and the medicine, because it turns out that something went wrong
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 15 2020 20: 06 New
      +5
      Quote: awdrgy
      And the seeds from her go barren in the second generation?

      A terrible thing.
    2. bondrostov
      bondrostov April 15 2020 21: 11 New
      -2
      You can minus, but with such a population of the earth without GMOs it’s not like .. forget about its eco-food, its maximun is 3 billion people and we are already 8 ..
      1. awdrgy
        awdrgy April 15 2020 21: 29 New
        +3
        We are barely 150 million in Russia and we have enough land. What are we going to feed 8 billion ??? (although if necessary, let’s feed normal products, let not 8 but 1-2 for sure) Here let them where the problems are there and they will take care The main thing is that this top leaf does not spread onto our territory and not infect everything (but this is at least sabotage as a maximum- war) so their problem is to keep this rubbish on its territory and ours not to let
        1. bondrostov
          bondrostov April 15 2020 21: 40 New
          -1
          I did not specifically lead us. Globally this is necessary. I personally do not believe in the harm of GMOs. The fact that you need to create seed production at home is for sure! In order not to depend on them and if these seeds are improved (they are not afraid of pests, higher yields, less moisture is needed) is only a plus.
          1. awdrgy
            awdrgy April 16 2020 00: 18 New
            +1
            Well, I don’t know my problems here. I don’t think about the global one. But it’s necessary to improve carefully (these games are unsafe) because they wrote correctly here, selection is one thing and genetics is completely different Well, why take risks when everything is fine with us (from kindness they’re not looking) besides, in Russia it’s better to invest in the production of eco-friendly products than to engage in dubious experiments — it’s economically more profitable for us and by the way, it’s not profitable for those who have little strawberries (for them) Although it’s not clear to them why the Americans are bees torturing their bees it seems like the territory is big well, these are their problems. In the end, our wise and noble ancestors took care of providing the descendants with land and they were no more stupid than us (we thought everything through centuries ahead if not for millennia)
          2. Lyuba1965_01
            Lyuba1965_01 April 16 2020 00: 30 New
            +4
            Yes, there are pluses, but there are also a lot of disadvantages of GMOs, moreover, they outweigh the pluses. Sometimes, it’s better not to chase a plentiful harvest in order to maintain a healthy nation. Tell me, are you not concerned about the increased infertility of women, moreover, in those countries where GMO products are not prohibited? But there are such statistics, and scientists themselves talk about the dangers of GMOs.
            1. bondrostov
              bondrostov April 16 2020 12: 06 New
              -1
              Honestly, I have not seen such statistics. I don’t say that you need to use their GMOs, you only need to use your own so that it is safe.
              1. Lyuba1965_01
                Lyuba1965_01 April 16 2020 12: 31 New
                +1
                At its core, GMOs cannot be safe! There were tests on mice, so in the second generation the females were infertile. Also, GMO products suppress the human immune system. They inhibit the liver, provoke cancer. Have you noticed that with the increase in GMO products, cancer has also increased, moreover, mainly for young people who have been eating them for almost their entire lives? The most dangerous thing is that we all consume GMO products, even if they promise us the full ecological purity of the products.
          3. surok1
            surok1 April 17 2020 17: 06 New
            +1
            We have a small ecosystem of bacteria inside and it’s not true that GMOs do not affect us.
        2. Lyuba1965_01
          Lyuba1965_01 April 16 2020 00: 17 New
          +2
          Ukraine has already concluded an agreement with Monsanto, so GMOs will grow right on the border with Russia. I don’t think that this will have any effect on Russia, so letting or not letting on us no longer depends on us.
          1. awdrgy
            awdrgy April 16 2020 00: 22 New
            -2
            Only to burn out, I don't know if our government makes a decision (although it's hard to believe), then it won't become "old men" for us (there is still gunpowder in the flasks)
        3. Aag
          Aag April 16 2020 15: 08 New
          0
          We already feed (China-soybeans, grain). At the same time we buy. Even alcohol! Our plants were rotted. Market, -!
          So with everything else, you want to stay afloat, either chemistry, or GMOs.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 16 2020 08: 04 New
        +3
        Quote: bondrostov
        but with such a population of the earth without GMOs

        Already calculated that the planet easily feed more than twice. hi
      3. Vikxnumx
        Vikxnumx April 16 2020 08: 52 New
        +1
        You can minus, but with such a population of the earth without GMOs it’s not like .. forget about its eco-food, its maximun is 3 billion people and we are already 8 ..

        There are much fewer of us, and every year even fewer!
        And let others take care of their own food!
      4. surok1
        surok1 April 17 2020 17: 00 New
        0
        We need irrigation, protection from the wind - forest belts, because the wind carries water away. A kind of permaculture. Free personalities also take up physical labor. Reduce needs. A kilogram of meat is ten times more burdensome than a kilo of vegetable.
    3. T.Henks
      T.Henks April 15 2020 22: 03 New
      +5
      And look at the sale of seeds - one f 1. Only they are sold. Look at the tomatoes, they are glass. I've saved the variety. Two kinds. I'll die, they will disappear.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova April 16 2020 09: 44 New
        0
        F1 is it harmful? we only plant them
        1. bondrostov
          bondrostov April 16 2020 12: 13 New
          -1
          I think that your GMO will be safe and will increase exports. Using imported is really dangerous because they can do disgusting things. And I don’t believe mine that by chance you can make a genetic bomb, you can accidentally make a hydrogen bomb. IMHO
          1. Aag
            Aag April 16 2020 15: 31 New
            0
            We argue niochem. Trying to clarify.
            Suppose you are a farmer, an agrarian, but you just have a vegetable garden. Products for sale. (Yes, even if for yourself!). Are you sure that you will buy "clean" seed?
            The second question: to grow, to save the harvest, where do you think the yield will be higher? That is, PROFITABILITY. If you have it lower than your competitors, it is known, you will be devoured (figuratively). And competitors, having won, through their lobbies, for kickbacks, will write on their products: "GMO-free".
            I know pleasant exceptions, but they are of little significance, or for the upper price range.
            Yes, in the hinterland, in isolation, where the manure is from its (neighboring) cattle, and this good is cheaper than the purchased chemistry ...
            Well, in us we need to mutate under the existing situation)))).
            1. awdrgy
              awdrgy April 16 2020 17: 22 New
              -1
              Yes, no-no, for example, during Stalin's trip to Siberia, what turned out to be? That a small number of large farms of peasants of the Stolypin reform feed roughly half of the country Because of this, it is true that they became rich and in the end they were "this one" but an example is on the face But all these lobbies, competitors, kickbacks are all decided overnight, believe me there is data for everyone (a purely technical question) Now, if not for our country, but for example in the United States, there will be unrealistically howling riots and we have such dishonest comrades turned on profits will be torn apart for gu-ha with the full support and assistance of the people
              1. Aag
                Aag April 16 2020 19: 19 New
                0
                Tear. Will you go instead? Or send someone
                Did you catch the development of the Non-Black Earth Region?
                Have you heard about this?
                Times are different: only profitability can be lured.
                1. awdrgy
                  awdrgy April 16 2020 19: 35 New
                  0
                  Who will go when and how, the question is political (even technical) The non-black earth on which I live, I have mastered the drainage for a very long time, but somewhere I heard more precisely I read Tselina, but they mastered it in conditions of limited subsidiary farming (hooking pigs into the yard? state monopolies then and private, today, and this is not good) in addition, its development pursued some other goals, but this is a separate topic And certainly from the point of view of food security it was not necessary. And with profitability you can go very far Remember the film with the phrase- "Must there is only one left "Here the continuation of this phrase was not voiced there
                  1. Aag
                    Aag April 16 2020 19: 59 New
                    0
                    "Who will go when and how is a political (even technical) question"
                    Well, so with a whip, or a carrot?
                    "Non-black earth on which I live, I have mastered the runoff for a long time, do not live"
                    You are mistaken. You have the opportunity from the participants in the events to find out how it was.
                    I don't even send you to "Virgin Land Upturned"))) ... Although, possessing a certain degree of skepticism, - "You can go there too ..." - Vera (L. Akhidzhakova, movie "Office Romance"). laughing
                    1. awdrgy
                      awdrgy April 16 2020 20: 07 New
                      0
                      I already wrote about the virgin soil and, as far as I understand, now everything is mastered even by her. What is the question then? Magically revive and recapture it. Okay, virgin land — magically turn it into virgin land in Tambov Kaluga, and so on and reclaim it again? We have half of the abandoned fields but it’s not been virgin land — I’ve mastered such sites I took such plots and no problems with them no, except when they come across fertilized crops in previous years. But movies are good, but it's better to try
                      1. Aag
                        Aag April 16 2020 20: 41 New
                        +1
                        Probably, you are more "in the subject" than me. Without taking into account geography. On the former collective farm fields, which year I have been collecting mushrooms. Among the young pine trees. Collective farms have run out. A private owner, especially a small one, is not able to raise something. Except for some technical culture. the second year, the region cannot sell wheat; no, it can, of course, but even the fuel will not be repulsed; plus the salary debt to the workers).
                        Yes, and in Soviet times, everywhere there were their own peculiarities: Kachugsky district of the same region, they hunted in the overgrown field with a former machine operator. I ask how you plowed, sowed here? Answer: they said, sow so many areas, sow, plow , sow. No question! K-700 pulls (how much fuel?) But the reaper (seem Don5000) is just downhill. Sometimes the belts were torn (there were also tragedies).
                        I’m not insulting. It's just a shame for people who still want to do something efficient, to be honest. hi
                      2. awdrgy
                        awdrgy April 16 2020 21: 00 New
                        0
                        It grows with us, of course, but there let’s say so to overgrow and overgrow Yes there are people and overgrown derbanites (why?) But they do it so stupidly with a bulldozer in the spring while the earth is wet, there are young animals 10-15 years old frail birch mostly Which ones are uprooted which they break They grab the whole thing and don’t even burn it, and then goaster to the leftovers. They’ll take a week off depending on the volumes (if it’s not for grazing, there are also then they will simply collect pieces of wood, roughly speaking) And where there are not overgrown tractors and norms Large type holdings or whatever they are there, they don’t even hire Gaster from 30 to XNUMX and people are on a constant trip if necessary and take time slowly (the land is stupidly expanding) again there is young
                      3. Aag
                        Aag April 16 2020 21: 41 New
                        +1
                        Apparently, it makes sense.
                        And good!
                        It is different with us (judging by my friends): the first land is needed, generally solved, with some paper wires; the second equipment, premises, money are needed (loans, even soft loans, also that bondage, we need another income, comrade a / service, with your own risks). Yes, what to chew. You probably know better than me ... Here I have two examples before my eyes, I think they drafted all this? to provide?
                        My whole match is that doing business here / now is not profitable and risky (well, unless you have a lobby and launder money). As a hobby, this is another topic.
                        And returning to the topic of the article, the use of GMOs, chemistry, an additional chance to stay afloat in the ocean teeming with sharks of capitalism! :-)))
                      4. awdrgy
                        awdrgy April 16 2020 22: 47 New
                        0
                        Therefore, it was necessary to prepare in advance. Who calculated the situation, he prepared and there are many of them (this concerns individuals living "on earth") The rest are dependent on the state in one way or another. Our state will provide them with food without GMO. in our country, private ownership of the means of production and land is a relative concept. Today they gave it, tomorrow they took it away and nobody will bother you especially about this. And if you don't want to be the director of your former farm, "the choice is always" more accurate "an offer that cannot be refused" but this is an extreme option At the moment it is not required Statistics on self-sufficiency in grain, fruits, vegetables, etc., as well as domestic seeds are posted by the commentators above and is not a secret
                2. surok1
                  surok1 April 17 2020 17: 20 New
                  0
                  I read that excess phosphorus in the soil, which interferes with growth, can be dissolved with carbon dioxide. That is, as I explain it, I don’t really remember it myself. An article in Youth Tech was. Tractor exhaust gases were sent through the tube to the arable layer and phosphorus became available again. Not all at once naturally.
                3. awdrgy
                  awdrgy April 17 2020 17: 47 New
                  0
                  I’m not a chemist, but there, in an exhaust hood, go rubbish besides carbon dioxide, and technically, how? - only a small area is processed
                4. surok1
                  surok1 April 17 2020 18: 29 New
                  0
                  Diesel is not gasoline, it should be cleaner.
                5. awdrgy
                  awdrgy April 17 2020 18: 30 New
                  0
                  Yes, in principle, it doesn’t matter, goat manure is a force!
                6. surok1
                  surok1 April 17 2020 18: 33 New
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                  If chopped straw is plowed into the topsoil, the same effect. And goats are called "the razor of the earth."
  • surok1
    surok1 April 17 2020 17: 11 New
    0
    F1 - heterosis hybrid, does this tell you anything? This is not a variety at all, in the second generation the signs are split. That is, the seeds of their varietal characters do not already bear, run wild. You depend on the seed supplier, totally.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova April 17 2020 18: 17 New
      +1
      Thanks for the info, then F1 can be planted only one year, then buy seeds again
  • parusnik
    parusnik April 15 2020 20: 09 New
    +6
    It is noted that the appearance of such wheat in the fields can deplete agricultural soil resources faster than usual, which will increase the time for their restoration
    ... Something, the fantasy begins to come true ... I remember a story, a spaceship carries plant seeds, from another planet which from the bowels of the Earth can suck up all the resources ... Half of the Earth is already planted with such plants .. And then it comes to him, that the aliens specially slipped such garbage ... and destroys the seeds .. Something like this .. And here without the aliens, we dig our own grave .. Maybe of course and exaggerate ...
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid April 15 2020 20: 59 New
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      ..... And here without aliens, we dig a grave for ourselves .. Maybe, of course, I exaggerate ...
      Like, how many aliens can we wait for ourselves? I remembered ---- with such friends and enemies are not needed. Sarcasm s, black humor s am
  • Amateur
    Amateur April 15 2020 20: 13 New
    +6
    One well-known specialist in science is already known.
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  • really
    really April 15 2020 20: 22 New
    12
    We recall the hogweed of Sosnowski
  • svp67
    svp67 April 15 2020 20: 27 New
    +6
    It is noted that the appearance of such wheat in the fields can deplete agricultural soil resources faster than usual, which will increase the time for their restoration.
    But in vain, do they make Ukraine put up for sale land ...
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid April 15 2020 21: 05 New
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      ..... in vain, do they make Ukraine put up for sale land ...
      Interestingly, didn’t they plant anything experimental in Iraq? From there, it seems, some layer of earth was taken out. Than they do not surround our border ---- military bases, baclaboratory, unknown vegetation ....
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 15 2020 21: 21 New
        +4
        Quote: Reptiloid
        Than just do not surround our border

        "Anaconda" squeezes the rings ...
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid April 15 2020 21: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          ....... "Anaconda" squeezes the rings ...
          This is true! Moreover, at different levels --- including the political and the information ... in different directions.
        2. sabakina
          sabakina April 15 2020 21: 51 New
          -1
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Than just do not surround our border

          "Anaconda" squeezes the rings ...

          This is not Anaconda compressing the ring, it is someone's brain regress.
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro April 15 2020 20: 28 New
    +4
    ... geneticists and breeders in the United States managed to create a new variety of wheat that has "unique properties."

    Experts who have studied the work of scientists from the United States consider the new wheat variety to be dangerous.

    All itching to bake these scientists from shit! And so already "Mordsanta" sells a wide range of products developed by them to the whole world genetically modified shit! Why don't they first get drunk and feed the whole state this stuff with "unique properties"? I am sure that then after some time nuclear weapons will not be needed to contain the freaks obsessed with globalism - they themselves will die out!
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard April 15 2020 21: 52 New
      +4
      Quote: Goldmitro
      and not feed the states with all this stuff with "unique properties"

      And there they are eating it all, it’s hard to find normal food. request
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn April 16 2020 09: 35 New
        +5
        Normal food and medicine can only be afforded by the "right Americans", while others are superfluous at this celebration of "democracy".
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 15 2020 20: 29 New
    +4
    Quote: Pereira
    Let them consume. But why kill the Russian selection?

    In many cultures, Russia is dependent on foreign breeding. According to the TTC, imported varieties occupy 62% of the sown area of ​​corn, 26% of the sown area for soybean, and 88% for rapeseed. But for wheat, the main agricultural crop, mainly domestic varieties are sown - 97% of the crops.
    Read more at © DairyNews.ru https://www.dairynews.ru/news/bayer-peredast-rossii-tekhnologii-selektsii-psheni.html?sphrase_id=7909055
    1. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev April 15 2020 20: 48 New
      -3
      Therefore, Russian wheat exports, thanks to American scientists, have been threatened.
      1. awdrgy
        awdrgy April 16 2020 01: 12 New
        -1
        Yes, for God's sake, let them eat their own, we’re not impoverished. But there is an opinion that they didn’t want to eat it, but to feed it to someone including us. We don’t need to transfer money, we were never turned to it and they didn’t write about God about them So off topic
    2. Aag
      Aag April 16 2020 15: 46 New
      0
      Here I am about that! What many people count as ours is far from ours.
      And if you dig even further, it may turn out that all of this was created by our ex ...
      1. awdrgy
        awdrgy April 16 2020 17: 24 New
        0
        Zhvanetsky never loved
        1. Aag
          Aag April 16 2020 19: 27 New
          0
          Yes, it seems, he is not a breeder, and not a geneticist ...)))
          And please, do not neglect punctuation marks, your comments without them can be interpreted diametrically opposite. (Execution cannot be pardoned).
          1. awdrgy
            awdrgy April 17 2020 17: 55 New
            0
            He’s a comedian like us. And my signs don’t work because they put honey on Claudia a year ago and repair laziness
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 15 2020 20: 29 New
    +3
    However, ASA believes that the cultivation of such wheat "will have a positive effect on human health."

    Let them eat themselves.
    1. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev April 15 2020 20: 49 New
      +1
      They themselves will sell this variety to all countries dependent on grain imports.
      1. awdrgy
        awdrgy April 16 2020 01: 15 New
        -2
        And they won’t sell it but they’re forced to consider it forcibly (do not confuse it hot with fried) and even then we will see
  • Svetlana
    Svetlana April 15 2020 20: 37 New
    +3
    Some scientists argue with others. But we, for the most part, ignoramuses, without theoretical training and figures will not be able to help them in this dispute. No way.
    We can only, emotionally, take one side or the other. On this resource, it will be a 100% anti-American side.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 15 2020 20: 49 New
      +9
      From the side ... of a gourmet, t.s.
      You taste the real tomato, cucumber, radish, watermelon ..... remember?
      I still remember none of the purchased varieties and does not closely resemble what we used to eat! And how much fuss with them has become, then in general darkness!
      Yes, I’ll add, I DO NOT REMEMBER what the butterfly cabbage used to eat tomatoes like now!
      This is why they crossed there ???
      Is it about scientific thinking or past?
      1. cniza
        cniza April 15 2020 20: 59 New
        +7
        Everything is sad, very sad, there are no such more vegetables and fruits ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 April 15 2020 21: 04 New
          +4
          There were trees planted a long time ago! Something else from the berry! It’s a disaster with vegetables, it’s a fact. Every year, new seeds have to be taken, and vegetables are tasting worse and worse, although the presentation is straightforward!
          As they say in the east, we have lost the taste of halva !!!
          1. cniza
            cniza April 15 2020 21: 07 New
            +5
            The recollection of childhood and youth is encouraged to seek, but alas, everything is like grass, only beautiful ...
          2. cost
            cost April 15 2020 21: 27 New
            +1
            As they say in the east, we have lost the taste of halva !!!

            In childhood there was such a film "Taste of halva". The song from this film, which was performed by A. Dzhigarkhanyan "Oh, alas, alas, alas, I have lost the taste of halva" we remember singing to the girls in the yard with a guitar smile
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 April 15 2020 21: 40 New
              +2
              Well, yes, you can simply gobble up, but you can really lose a lot of valuable.
        2. for
          for April 15 2020 21: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          Everything is sad, very sad, there are no more fruits and vegetables ..

          Varieties are decent, the question is what to feed. I treat her, everyone is delighted.
      2. Svetlana
        Svetlana April 15 2020 21: 10 New
        +1
        I didn’t forget him. But all this will be explained very, very simply. The taste of tomato, banana, pineapple ripened on a plant is one thing. The taste of the same tomato ripped green and ripened in a box is completely different and this is exactly what we buy in the store. The modern industry cannot sell tomatoes ripened on a plant in shops.

        Ripe, delicious melons, peaches are not stored. Watermelons change their taste from storage ..
        But the cabbage does not eat tomatoes and other plants, but lays its eggs on them.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 April 15 2020 21: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Svetlana
          The taste of tomato, banana, pineapple ripened on a plant is one thing.

          This is what it is, because I grow it myself, but it is not at all! Believe me, picking green ones, I don’t have such a need.
          Quote: Svetlana
          But the cabbage does not eat tomatoes and other plants, but lays its eggs on them.

          It is clear that the butterfly flutters and eats nectar, but its tomatoes never eat its caterpillars! because cabbage was enough for her. By the way, cabbage is not far growing, and this infection pulls on tomatoes!
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid April 15 2020 22: 11 New
            0
            Quote: rocket757
            ..... It is clear that the butterfly flutters and nectar eats, but its caterpillars never eat tomatoes! because cabbage was enough for her. By the way, cabbage is not far growing, and this infection pulls on tomatoes!
            laughing lol In my opinion, Victor, we are talking about the fact that more developed butterflies live next to you than they were before. Evolving, expanding the assortment. I read somehow about the effect of food diversity on the mental abilities of both animals and people.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 April 15 2020 22: 24 New
              +1
              It’s hard to judge everything at once!
              Here the Colorado potato beetle has disappeared completely and cockroaches, by the way! But the spider Black Widow appeared, and this is very dangerous. I would not have believed it if I almost got myself into trouble ... and then they began to warn that it was real, I got to us.
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid April 15 2020 22: 58 New
                +2
                Climate change, temperature increase will lead to the fact that animals from the southern places will move to the seaer, increase habitats. Insects, amphibians, rodents .....
                1. Aag
                  Aag April 16 2020 15: 53 New
                  +1
                  You stepped aside. What you touched upon is another, perhaps even more extensive, topic. To the subject under discussion, I agree, it is connected. But in the context touched ... hi
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid April 16 2020 16: 16 New
                    0
                    So we keep moving away laughing in fact, you can think about it and try to draw a parallel farther ---- animal behavior is changing in the new conditions. But is it possible that people’s behavior too? How much? Etc.
                    Quote: AAG
                    You stepped aside. What you touched upon is another, perhaps even more extensive, topic. To the subject under discussion, I agree, it is connected. But in the context touched ... hi
                    1. Aag
                      Aag April 16 2020 16: 21 New
                      +1
                      I agree. The flexibility of Nature is amazing! But a person, more and more moving away (trying) from it, is losing this ability.
        2. sabakina
          sabakina April 15 2020 22: 00 New
          -1
          Quote: Svetlana
          I didn’t forget him. But all this will be explained very, very simply. The taste of tomato, banana, pineapple ripened on a plant is one thing.
          I do not agree! The taste of a banana bought in the USSR at 2 rubles per kg green, I still remember! It was nectar! And we ripened them in a blanket in the wardrobe!
          1. Aag
            Aag April 16 2020 21: 46 New
            0
            Sorry, this is more likely to be of age. Previously, trees were taller!
            However, I agree with you.)))
      3. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid April 15 2020 21: 17 New
        +3
        The picture is interesting ---- a butterfly is eating a tomato! Did she drink before that? wassat Victor, are you afraid of the tomatoes that the butterfly likes to eat? probably still something vegetable ....
        I am much more afraid of huge pink apples of a beautiful color, not a single wormhole, not a single scratch. So they lie and nothing happens to them. A month, another ... without a refrigerator. And it also happened, they forgot about the cottage cheese in the package. And he is nothing. It is called "" fresh morning "", and also "" president "". Already scary.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 April 15 2020 21: 37 New
          +4
          There were apples before, "winter" late varieties, it was easy to preserve until the new year, but more can be done, but more difficult and with a loss of taste. Also, the nutritionist explained, a hundred sliced, bitten apple should darken! and this is, as a race, a valuable property necessary for the human body! Super pretty apples, industrial varieties DO NOT DARK when cut! Not all, but many! Only beauty, benefits to a minimum.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid April 15 2020 22: 03 New
            +1
            Those apples in our garden --- they quickly darken and very much. But pink, purchased as glass, cut in the morning --- only in the evening a little ..... but then it will not darken very much. Butterfly would not try.
      4. sabakina
        sabakina April 15 2020 21: 55 New
        0
        Quote: rocket757
        From the side ... of a gourmet, t.s.
        You taste the real tomato, cucumber, radish, watermelon ..... remember?
        I still remember none of the purchased varieties and does not closely resemble what we used to eat!
        Vitya, if sclerosis doesn’t fail me, the radish was sweet. But soup like cotton wool with bitterness.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 April 15 2020 22: 19 New
          +1
          Vyacheslav soldier
          Only, just chewed (did not eat) the last! Like cotton wool, but yesterday it’d be edible! I’m not talking about taste, so-so.
          Imported, of course, its own only a couple of weeks will do! But I still don’t have illusions. Seeds purchased, what grows, only for salad.
          Of course, it’s a sin for me to complain. At least we don’t eat anything etched !!! But I really want to find and plant varieties of former times that we schoolchildren / students in the fields collected and ate!
    2. awdrgy
      awdrgy April 16 2020 01: 21 New
      -2
      Emotions are also strength Each of the "old men" had situations in life when you think about the existence of higher powers (we drive away from ourselves, we try to explain it rationally to forget) And the ancestors knew that it affects like when a lot of people want something or do not want something only from the heart nada on emotions is shorter
      1. Aag
        Aag April 16 2020 16: 09 New
        0
        Of course, the age of the taster does matter. Moreover, it’s different for different products. Last resort, prove to the child that beer is tastier than ... chupa-chups. For example, God forbid, of course (although it is not yet known what is more harmful).
        Remember the movie "Pirates of the Caribbean"? We have lost the taste! Watermelon, ice cream, strawberries, are no longer pleasing, as in childhood.
        The current generation did not know him ....
    3. surok1
      surok1 April 17 2020 17: 34 New
      0
      This is common sense. An experience. From there, little is good, all the more so for nothing.
  • smaug78
    smaug78 April 15 2020 20: 41 New
    -1
    What nonsense from topvar
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 15 2020 20: 41 New
    +1
    The article is not about anything.
    Anonymous experts think something there. Same as always.
  • knn54
    knn54 April 15 2020 20: 45 New
    +6
    Outstanding Russian breeder, academician Bagrat Sandukhadze, who received the Nemchinovskaya winter wheat variety with an incredible yield for the Moscow region of 148 centners per hectare, spoke very harshly about genetic methods: “I came to the conclusion that the more genetics, the fewer results. the abyss. And over time it expands. "
    "By controlling oil, you control states; by controlling food, you control nations."
    G. Kissinger.
    This is what geneticists and monopolists from Monsanto are doing (in parallel with all the agreements with OPEC).
    1. Aag
      Aag April 16 2020 16: 14 New
      0
      "By controlling oil, you control states; by controlling food, you control nations."
      Bold plus! Very appropriate quote. Please send to the State Duma
  • Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev April 15 2020 20: 47 New
    +3
    That is, in the United States they took another step towards global food security, creating a variety of wheat, adapted for cultivation on soils where ordinary varieties of wheat cannot grow. This discovery will cause serious financial losses to the states, the important role in the economy of which is the export of grain, because now countries that purchase grain can grow it themselves. The story is repeated with another new technology, shale oil production, which has reduced importers' dependence on traditional oil.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 15 2020 21: 02 New
      +2
      Now Kazakhstan and other countries of Central Asia will buy it because the salinity of the soils there is quite high.
      1. Aag
        Aag April 16 2020 16: 17 New
        0
        I'm afraid, indirectly, after minimal processing, all this will be in the Russian Federation.
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard April 15 2020 21: 56 New
      0
      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      That is, in the United States they took another step towards global food security, creating a variety of wheat, adapted for cultivation on soils where ordinary varieties of wheat cannot grow. This discovery will cause serious financial losses to the states, the important role in the economy of which is the export of grain, because now countries that purchase grain will be able to grow it themselves. The story is repeated with another new technology, shale oil production, which has reduced importers' dependence on traditional oil

      That is, this is the only moment that you "took away" from the article? Congratulations! laughing
    3. awdrgy
      awdrgy April 16 2020 01: 27 New
      -3
      And where is that shale oil now? This wheat will also be there.
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev April 16 2020 06: 31 New
        +2
        Shale oil in place. At the moment, oil kings have to keep the price below $ 30 per barrel to block sales of shale hydrocarbons.
        1. awdrgy
          awdrgy April 16 2020 17: 06 New
          -2
          And I thought it was due to a decrease in demand However, it would be better not to sell at all for 6 months or a year, and then when in the United States everywhere from the faucets of "seagulls" goes "useful" to sell not current oil but also water)
      2. Aag
        Aag April 16 2020 16: 30 New
        0
        I can be mistaken, but US revenues from oil trade are 7%, RF-30-40% of GDP. Nadnyakh spoke with a classmate, a mechanic on a tanker, the flag of the ship of the Bahamas, port of departure Velikie Lugi. The port of arrival is the southern tip of the United States.
        They can afford it.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 15 2020 21: 00 New
    +1
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    They themselves will sell this variety to all countries dependent on grain imports.

    Will they carry aircraft carriers? laughing
    1. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev April 15 2020 23: 06 New
      0
      By airplanes. Boeing S-5
    2. Aag
      Aag April 16 2020 16: 37 New
      0
      Do you think they have no ships?
      Even if this were so, resources (political, military, financial) would fill this niche without any particular problems. How this is done in many other areas ... To resist, one must at least imagine what.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 15 2020 21: 04 New
    0
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    That is, in the United States they took another step towards global food security, creating a variety of wheat, adapted for cultivation on soils where ordinary varieties of wheat cannot grow. This discovery will cause serious financial losses to the states, the important role in the economy of which is the export of grain, because now countries that purchase grain can grow it themselves. The story is repeated with another new technology, shale oil production, which has reduced importers' dependence on traditional oil.

    At the ISS we tried to use products from human waste - Tasty? laughing
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 15 2020 21: 38 New
      +2
      So there is water from urine. Waste-free production. It was always like that on DOS)
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 15 2020 21: 09 New
    -2
    And considering how farmers in the USA and the EU broke off due to the lack of cheap wage slaves for workers ... I’ll assume that our agricultural worker is already eagerly rubbing his paws while continuing to sow. laughing
    1. Aag
      Aag April 16 2020 16: 41 New
      -1
      And how do you imagine the situation with us? How will this help us? Are our countries awesome competitors in this area?
      1. Aag
        Aag April 16 2020 16: 47 New
        -1
        Especially at the price of diesel fuel under 50 rubles per liter (AI-92-42r per liter). Even if you are not an agrarian, the milk that you brought (most likely an automobile with a diesel engine), believe me, there is an extra charge!
        1. Gennady Fomkin
          Gennady Fomkin April 16 2020 17: 56 New
          0
          This is relevant to this article. laughing You better outline the current position of the American farmer laughing
          1. Aag
            Aag April 16 2020 19: 12 New
            0
            At amer farmer, I’m mostly violet. And the fact that this grain with a high degree of probability will be in the bunkers of sowing equipment on the fields in the Russian Federation is, at least, unpleasant.
  • NordUral
    NordUral April 15 2020 21: 11 New
    +5
    And for me - this is the main danger - the development and concentration in the hands of US firms of a seed fund that does not produce offspring. And a decrease in the proportion of natural seeds.
    So you can put any country on its knees without selling another batch of seeds. And war is not necessary.
    Or just die out.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 15 2020 21: 33 New
      0
      And all over the world that the United States alone sells seeds?
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 16 2020 00: 23 New
        +1
        Vadim, before you say something, you need to get acquainted with the topic at least at the top.

        Here without a long and thorough search:

        Unseeded country
        https://news.rambler.ru/other/43581153-neosemenennaya-strana/
        Before the very resignation of Dmitry Medvedev’s government, the speaker of the Federation Council, a third party in the state, respected Valentina Matvienko, suddenly turned her highest attention to the fact that you can’t dig a purely Russian grape seed into warm land. Almost there was no Russian seed left. And she stated bluntly, like a real politician: “Seed production is simply a disaster. Where we are certainly dependent on our foreign partners is in this area. I’m not even talking about corn, potatoes, wheat, but when I visited a greenhouse in one of the regions, they told me that parsley, dill and salad are also imported seeds, but it really got me. ” You are our dear Valentina Ivanovna! What you saw in the greenhouse, where they prepared for your arrival in a year, is probably not a disaster. This is our strange homeland. And the disaster is where neither you, Mishustin, nor even Vladimir Vladimirovich is being taken. So let me tell you "for the seeds."


        Academician Vavilov's seed collection is exported from Russia to the Rothschild genebank
        https://pikabu.ru/story/kollektsiyu_semyan_akademika_vavilova_vyivozyat_iz_rossii_v_gennyiy_bank_rotshildov_6348548

        And the last:
        Deal with Western Agrotitan: a threat or a blessing?
        While the seed sector is preparing to “rise from the ashes of the 90s,” foreign companies can take over the market. According to Senator Irina Hecht, the concern is primarily the merger of the German company Bayer and the American manufacturer of herbicides and GMO seeds Monsanto.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 16 2020 11: 32 New
          +1
          With seeds now in Russia it is more or less normal from 20 to 80% of all crops are imported - but 100% of imported crops are not present in any category. So yes, study the topic further. By the way, about the harmfulness of GMOs, I have not found a single serious scientific work - solid guesses and so on. In fact, not any facts and iron evidence.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral April 16 2020 11: 48 New
            +1
            Vadim, if this is normal for you, then why argue. And yet, I did not write about the harmfulness, neutrality or usefulness of GMOs, but about the fact that these two monsters will conquer the world (and most importantly, ours) seed market.
          2. surok1
            surok1 April 17 2020 18: 04 New
            0
            Practical experiments are no longer evidence for you?
  • for
    for April 15 2020 21: 27 New
    +2
    The trouble is that there will be figures to put to trial and imprison. the neighbor will envy and away we go. Colorado beetle.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 15 2020 21: 36 New
      +1
      In the Volgograd region such, only normal selection, it will be the most, the soil is salty, the heat is all summer, rainfall is minimal.
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft April 15 2020 21: 35 New
    0
    Expertswho studied the work of scientists from the United States, consider a new variety of wheat dangerous. It is noted that the appearance of such wheat in the fields may deplete agricultural soil resources faster than usualthat will increase the time for their recovery. Also the variety is considered capable of crowding out more traditional varieties

    No matter how this variety "gets pounded" in the fields of the country "404" ... the leadership of this country loves any innovation from the West ...
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard April 15 2020 21: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Lara Croft
      No matter how much this variety "rides" in the fields of the country "404" ... the leadership of this country loves any innovation from the West ..

      Have they sold all the land there, including black earth? wink
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft April 15 2020 22: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: Tank Hard
        Have they sold all the land there, including black earth? wink

        Fear God, brakes, there must be some ...
        ... in general, the "orphans" are not to blame, this is all the pernicious influence of the West on the fragile brain of a former citizen of the USSR who has abandoned everything Soviet (including positive) ... (and after a quarter of a century, a citizen who does not understand what state he is ) ....
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard April 15 2020 22: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: Lara Croft
          Fear God, brakes, there must be some

          There is enough of this goodness ... repeat
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith April 15 2020 21: 36 New
    +4
    Monsanto again invented a genetic mutant. Let them eat it themselves, I won’t be surprised if a local zombie apocalypse happens due to the use of unknown what.
    You never know what they changed there.
    Right classic))
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn April 16 2020 09: 49 New
      0
      Only in California, Mendocino, Trinity and Marin counties successfully banned GM crops. Voters in other California counties tried to establish similar measures, but failed.

      There is a ban in Russia. China is the largest producer of GMOs.
  • Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 April 15 2020 21: 42 New
    +2
    Experiments on wildlife can end badly for the person himself.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard April 15 2020 22: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: Chaldon48
      Experiments on wildlife can end badly for the person himself.

      Read the book by Cormac McCarthy - "The Road" (there is also a film of the same name based on this book, but the book is more challenging). My depressed mood lasted for a week, although the book is excellently written, I still have no desire to reread, it is not pleasant ... civilization is quite real. hi
  • indy424
    indy424 April 15 2020 21: 57 New
    +2
    surprisingly, and experts have no names, or what? yes, by the way, the author of this article also has no name. no doubt this article is credible
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard April 15 2020 22: 12 New
      +5
      Quote: indy424
      surprisingly, and experts have no names, or what? yes, by the way, the author of this article also has no name. no doubt this article is credible

      In my opinion, everything that concerns such as Monsanto, should deserve serious attention, if you are afraid for your life and loved ones. repeat
  • dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 15 2020 22: 22 New
    0
    Quote: Lara Croft
    Quote: Dead Day
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Do not relax in any way.

    I would drown all the fucking geneticists in bleach ....

    about this they did with them in the 37th ...

    You don’t understand a damn thing, a cudgel. Genetics in the early USSR is a nail in the seat of a chair. The Polish proverb - "Pan will come out of the pan, and the ham will come out of the ham" - this is how genetics were perceived by an uncultured offspring who robbed mail trains first in Tiflis, and then throughout Russia. Still would! The son of a drunken shoemaker, how can he feel this proverb? Of course, Vavilov and his entire school were completely destroyed. Swindlers like Michurin, planting a dozen fruit branches on a birch, "proved" to the illiterate revolutionaries the "advantages" of Soviet science. Naturally, Michurin was followed by the genius of Soviet selection - Lysenko. Destroyed the color of the Soviet selection, injecting dandelions to the half-educated seminarian, and then to the All-Union hog, as a means of gaining independence from rubber Indonesia. Proving that dandelion juice can provide our industry with high quality rubber.
    They were proud of their "achievements" and sang songs about a hundred-day harvest. And, after all, this is 16 centners per hectare. Today we have 40, and this is the national average.
    1. surok1
      surok1 April 17 2020 18: 12 New
      0
      Here it is not necessary to speak for Michurin. He achieved a lot in his business. And others dragged ideology to him.
  • for
    for April 15 2020 22: 49 New
    +1
    We are indignant at what they invented, not the fact that it is dragged, this is a vague prospect, but the real and realized kitashes in gas masks and survived land.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 15 2020 23: 43 New
      +5
      Russia also has its own - without any squirrels with gas masks and surviving land.
      Kuban breeders have been working on the creation of the Taya variety for more than ten years.

      “The variety is undersized, hence the resistance to lodging and the ability to apply high doses of nitrogen fertilizers. He has intense growth and resistance to disease. We hope that Taya will be a reliable insurance variety in our region for repair or replanting of winter crops, ”said Vladimir Panchenko, a researcher at the P. Lukyanenko National Grain Center.

      “We choose the maternal and paternal forms, and then we remove the stamens from the paternal form. Then after 3-5 days we pollinate and get the first generation, ”said Elena Guenkova, senior researcher at the P. Lukyanenko National Center for Grain.

      After that, the seeds were replanted for several years, breeders selected elite shoots and tested them in nurseries. Thaya's wheat is now ripening in the greenhouse. This is a highly productive variety, as the spike contains more than 75 grains.

      Wheat seeds were transferred to the State Variety Testing Commission. This year, Tayu will be sown in different regions - from the Crimea to the Middle Urals. Potential crop yield is more than 100 kg / ha.
      Suck US breeders.
  • Alex bergman
    Alex bergman April 16 2020 03: 46 New
    -1
    Quote: Dead Day
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Do not relax in any way.

    I would drown all the fucking geneticists in bleach ....

    It’s better to fall asleep! Just die;)))
  • Hypatius
    Hypatius April 16 2020 06: 32 New
    +3
    If soil depletion is called the only drawback, then this is the main danger:
    Also, the variety is considered capable of crowding out more traditional varieties with a simultaneous increase in the susceptibility of those to cereal diseases.
    This is called genetic contamination of natural crops. Not only will these chimeras infect, and then infertile and kill selected varieties, so also for this sabotage all sorts of Mansants will try to shake off money for the so-called. "copyright". Ie you and your culture were poisoned, and you still owe money for this damage!
    1. muham
      muham April 16 2020 17: 47 New
      -3
      Quote: Hypatius
      Ie you and your culture were poisoned, and you still owe money for this damage!
      A petition for non-use of GMO products against the people. Yes subscribe by name. Yes to trace.
      To refuse vaccines too, and don’t take insulin injections, because they didn’t grow at the dacha either.
      And then we will reach America over the course of our life, and how they get the hedgehog, they eat it all, but live 10 years longer.
      1. Hypatius
        Hypatius April 16 2020 18: 05 New
        +1
        Hochmim? When you are harmed, a person has a reaction in order to avoid danger, hit or run, right up to the murder. But your position is incomprehensible, I can only guess - relax and enjoy the breathlessness? And where does America? He invented it himself, denied it? Speak already globalist Satanists, America here.
        1. muham
          muham April 16 2020 18: 16 New
          -1
          Quote: Hypatius
          Hochmim?
          And what else remains with this stream of half-consciousness? And you would answer, how is it that Americans who are fattened by GMOs and Europeans have a longer life span than natural-eating Russians.
          Do you have questions in your head? No way?
          And you have a break, give in, follow, and report. And I’m going to be so joking.
          1. Hypatius
            Hypatius April 16 2020 18: 54 New
            +2
            Darling, and you have revealed your opinion. Therefore, I don’t even know to plus or minus. And not for you, I value posts, not people, if anything, I can put the same thing + and - under different statements, moreover, according to the logic, and not my worldview. And life expectancy (or extent, in your opinion) has many factors. And, IMHO, this is mainly psychology. PS And what, should I still answer if my post is finished? There are no counterarguments, but still have to explain something? And if I don’t explain unknowingly that infantile, then I’m a fool, right? You know, such tricks are rolled at school, but they don’t do it here. Either learn to read and understand what is written and give reasons, or do not write at all.
  • betta
    betta April 16 2020 07: 40 New
    +3
    "However, the ASA believes that the cultivation of such wheat" will have a positive impact on human health. "
    Do they care about human health? I do not believe. I believe "... they care about the company's income."
  • g1washntwn
    g1washntwn April 16 2020 09: 43 New
    +2
    Actually the key phrase:
    the variety is considered capable of crowding out more traditional varieties

    ONLY BUSINESS. If, at the same time, the human population decreases from cancer and weakening of reproductive function, then that's okay. From their point of view, it has long been time to shorten the staff of service workers who have swelled up to 8 billion.
  • APASUS
    APASUS April 16 2020 09: 48 New
    0
    In the tactics of destroying humanity, all GMO products are extremely useful!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 16 2020 11: 34 New
      0
      The fact that it is harmful is not proven by anyone.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS April 16 2020 16: 19 New
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        The fact that it is harmful is not proven by anyone.

        I will even say more, Americans have proven that GMOs are good !!!
        Moreover, there is some evidence of a positive effect of GMOs on human health due to a reduction in the number of insecticidal poisoning and an increase in vitamin levels in the population of developing countries.

        https://www.nap.edu/catalog/23395/genetically-engineered-crops-experiences-and-prospects
        There is only one nuance
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok April 16 2020 09: 54 New
    -5
    Quote: Pereira
    Let them consume. But why kill the Russian selection?

    That which is already dead cannot be killed.
  • sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 16 2020 10: 30 New
    0
    However, ASA believes that the cultivation of such wheat "will have a positive effect on human health."

    It turns out that if there is only this wheat, then people will stop getting sick? Then why medicine, will happily roll over?
  • Mentat
    Mentat April 16 2020 12: 10 New
    +1
    Quote: Engineer Schukin
    Indeed, after all, we could, like us, kill our own science of selection, and also purchase seed material abroad.
    Then you would be happy with them.

    Who are "we? Can you give the facts? Russia is in first place in the world in grain production in wild crops, it turns out? What are you talking about?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 16 2020 17: 58 New
    0
    Everything on the farm!

    In the US, coronavirus hit the food sector, disrupting the production cycle. If earlier local farmers actively used the labor of visitors, now they have lost this resource, as many states have ceased to issue visas to migrant workers. The Americans themselves prefer to stay at home and receive food rations from the state, but do not go to work on farms, since such work is considered too exhausting. As a result, thousands of tons of fruits and vegetables rot in the fields, but the crop that was saved does not reach the consumer. There was a bias towards the entertainment industry, which fell victim to the crisis. Most of the farm products in the United States were bought by catering enterprises, schools and universities, which had long been closed. So far, the system cannot fully redirect food flows to end-users who have closed at home. However, this is not a crisis, but if the situation does not change dramatically for the better, American farmers warn of a collapse that will happen in the summer and autumn.

    In Western Europe the situation is similar. Only one France has already declared a deficit of 200 thousand workers in agriculture, which is almost 20 times worse than in Russia, given the size of the population of our countries. In Germany, Spain, the UK and other countries - similar problems, they depended too much on seasonal workers from Africa and Eastern Europe. The Austrian authorities called on all unemployed young people to go out to field work. German farmers do not expect help from the state and call volunteers for help through social networks. According to the Western press, people suddenly found out that food is not taken from nowhere. Looking at all this, Russia decided to be proactive.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 16 2020 18: 08 New
    +1
    Now again, under the furious nod towards the virus in the USA, the genocide of food begins again.

    "American farmers began to get rid of milk due to problems with the sale of products amid the coronavirus, according to a letter sent by the Wisconsin Dairy Alliance (WDA) to the US Department of Agriculture (USDA)."

    True, the USDA is silent as a fish about ice that farmers receive a command to destroy products from specialized cooperatives, which in turn receive a command from ... yes, it is from USDA ...- (information received during a conference call here : https: //www.facebook.com/group ...)
    If we subtract these people from the able-bodied population and count the officially registered unemployed from those who remain, then the real percentage of unemployment in the United States looked much more dramatic. According to Trump, "real numbers can come close to 42%."

    Now it's even funnier. According to official estimates of the Department of Labor, over the past two weeks in the United States have lost their jobs more than 10 million people. Almost 17 million people have already applied for benefits in three weeks. It would seem that local agriculture is the perfect lifesaver for the American unemployed. There are always hundreds of thousands of vacancies for picking strawberries or growing corn, but the problem is that creative managers and stylists who have lost their jobs are not psychologically ready to go to the fields. The American authorities have repeatedly tried to encourage farmers to hire locals for field work instead of migrants. However, this initiative failed every time.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 16 2020 18: 09 New
    +1
    And farmers were completely unprepared to hire people who were not accustomed to hard physical work. And the townspeople themselves were not at all eager to work on arable land, although 10 and a half dollars per hour is not such a bad salary - assistant teachers in elementary schools receive about the same.

    “They just took everything and left,” John Harold, a Colorado farmer, recalled his first experience hiring locals in 2011. “Six hours worked and immediately left. Most said nothing at all. About twenty-five people said it was too hard, ”he complained to the New York Times. In North Carolina, at the height of the unemployment associated with the 2008 Great Recession, out of nearly half a million unemployed people in the state, only 268 people agreed to go to work in agriculture. The rest chose to sit on benefits.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 16 2020 18: 11 New
    0
    And yes, I will accept any number of brokers and managers for labor re-education. Fresh air and social distance of 10 meters or more are guaranteed. laughing bully
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 16 2020 18: 21 New
    +1
    Yoklmn! Most will want to become such homeless people! There is grub, there are pants - what else does a person need for life? And who will plow like Papa Carlo? And take loans? A fat-assed to build paradise on Earth? Well, you’re straight like children. Fear and Hunger rule this world .... well, and Greed too.
    1. Aag
      Aag April 16 2020 22: 00 New
      0
      Forced to give you a plus.
  • Freedim
    Freedim April 17 2020 10: 23 New
    0
    Tarmashev has a fant. the novel "Legacy" about Monsanto is clearly written. If even a fraction corresponds to reality, then this is genocide of almost the entire population of the earth covered by lobbyists. All of them must be annihilated together with their developments.
  • lot
    lot April 17 2020 14: 05 New
    -2
    Satiated dangerous, hungry useful. You can write the same thing about broilers. Eka not seen.
  • kutuz
    kutuz April 17 2020 14: 20 New
    0
    Well, if US scientists, then everything is definitely bad. Some fools are sitting there, all smart in Russia.
  • T.Henks
    T.Henks April 17 2020 15: 04 New
    0
    The people were hurt by the living. 188 comments. Maybe all in vain? We will not live long enough to see the result with our own eyes.
  • Domestic cat
    Domestic cat April 17 2020 18: 13 New
    0
    Quote: bondrostov
    What are you so about gene engineers ..? Ours, too, such developments are very successful just while we have prohibited GMOs

    If the "bear" appears again, it will resolve everything that it simply did not have time to.
  • dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 17 2020 18: 15 New
    0
    Quote: surok1
    Here it is not necessary to speak for Michurin. He achieved a lot in his business. And others dragged ideology to him.

    What, specifically, did this fraudster advance science?
  • dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 17 2020 18: 20 New
    0
    Quote: Normal ok
    Quote: Pereira
    Let them consume. But why kill the Russian selection?

    That which is already dead cannot be killed.

    Are you now eating Russian bread from the killed rural industry? Or from the Canadian one, as all the time with the victorious maize and the brow-loving lover of fast cars? Is it from the killed selection that we now have a harvest, at the level of the "enlightened west"? And where is our place in the export of bread? Shit, it's shit in Africa too.