Salary from the president: Putin offered support to small and medium enterprises

Salary from the president: Putin offered support to small and medium enterprises

The president, in his next video address, made a specification of additional measures of economic support in a crisis. This time it was about supporting small and medium-sized enterprises against the backdrop of the pandemic of the new coronavirus.


According to Vladimir Putin, from May 1, company representatives will be able to send a request for cash to pay salaries to employees. At the same time, funds will be disbursed based on the amount of 12130 rubles per person, taking into account the staffing of the company (enterprise) at the beginning of April of the current year.

Moreover, as the president noted, the only obligation from employers is the preservation of employment at a level of at least 90 percent.
Putin:

When this requirement is met, and his government is able to control, financial support from the state for April will go to the account starting from May 18. Accordingly, funds for May will come in June.

Moreover, an important observation is that funds will be allocated for small and medium-sized enterprises of the “affected sectors”. At the same time, it is still not entirely clear who and by what criteria will classify the enterprise as a affected industry, and how adequate will be the monitoring of such activities and the targeted allocation of funds.

In the network, the allocation of finance has already been called "salary from the president."
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  1. Malyuta April 15 2020 17: 55 New
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    "According to Vladimir Putin, from May 1, company representatives will be able to send an application for cash to pay salaries to employees. At the same time, funds will be disbursed based on the amount of 12130 rubles per person taking into account the staffing of the company (enterprise) at the beginning of April of the current year. "

    I propose to pay such a salary to Sechin and Miller, well, to all officials, along with the Duma. good
    1. Grandfather April 15 2020 17: 58 New
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      Quote: Malyuta
      At the same time, funds will be disbursed based on the amount of 12130 rubles per person

      both on the stock exchange, unemployed, or on sick leave. but that is more than a pension.
      1. Bashkirkhan April 15 2020 18: 10 New
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        In villages, 12130 rubles per person is at least something. For the city, of course, the amount is small. Although in Vorkuta for 60 thousand rubles you can buy a three-room apartment.
        1. Revival April 15 2020 19: 22 New
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          And that in the villages there are many workers of travel agencies and beauty salons?
          This measure, as usual, is idle talk about "almost nobody."
          This kills all the usefulness in the bud: "Moreover, the important point is that funds will be allocated for small and medium-sized enterprises of the" affected sectors ".
        2. den3080 April 15 2020 19: 28 New
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          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          In villages, 12130 rubles per person is at least something. For the city, of course, the amount is small. Although in Vorkuta for 60 thousand rubles you can buy a three-room apartment.

          Well, in which villages? what are you talking about?
          everything is in the details. And the detail is as follows: only for enterprises from the most affected sectors.
          Next, open OKVED (All-Russian Classifier of Types of Economic Activities), a government decree listing OKVED and compare it with OKVED of your enterprise as of March 1, 2020.
          If your company has the same OKVED with those listed in the decree - you are almost lucky.
          If not, a cookie with butter and not a “presidential salary”, at least break, at least recruit more workers, at least dismiss, at least not, the existing ones - no one will say thank you.
        3. Vadim237 April 15 2020 20: 47 New
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          Most of the population is trying to leave Vorkuta - the city and the entire Komi Republic are absolutely hopeless after twenty years no one will need coal to fuck and everything will be completely bent there.
          1. Ingvar 72 April 15 2020 21: 40 New
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            Quote: Vadim237
            absolutely hopeless

            Listen to you, so you have almost the whole country without prospects. Have you ever wondered why all Icelanders do not massively migrate where warmer? fool
            1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 22: 11 New
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              All the northern regions are unpromising - since there is nothing to do there, the coal industry will soon be covered, all that remains is oil, gas and iron ore, but this can be done and done on a rotational basis. Iceland with a population of 350000 people - do you somehow study geography and take an interest in the average temperature in winter in those places, and also what is the Gulf Stream - so as not to give an example later - you don’t know what. By the way, the vicinity of Norilsk mining ended in the 70s Cool vidok promising areas of the north is not it.
              1. NordUral April 16 2020 00: 09 New
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                And how many more such promising effective managers are preparing for us.
            2. NordUral April 16 2020 00: 08 New
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              This is how it is.
              1. Ingvar 72 April 16 2020 07: 52 New
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                Quote: NordUral
                This is how it is.

                Zhenya, but that’s not important for him. He is looking for reasons to do nothing. You tell him about the fact that we do not produce airplanes, he says that it is economically unprofitable, you say that the consumer goods are all imported, it is about the fact that the market is busy, and we won’t get squeezed. Classic Gaidar-Chubais weather vane. hi
                1. NordUral April 16 2020 09: 53 New
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                  I agree, Igor. But such an answer must be, but without fanaticism, very briefly.
                2. Vadim237 April 16 2020 10: 57 New
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                  Unfortunately for you, this is a fact - no one will issue obsolete aircraft since they won’t pass certification and the market is busy until there is no mass production of its own and there are few brands untwisted in Russia, the client remains decisive - that’s what they want and they will buy most of them are on foreign brands and will not change in the long run. We need to deal with what is in demand, but at the same time develop other areas of what I am doing this year, we will launch the production of tactical knives and equipment for plasma spraying.
                  1. Mordvin 3 April 16 2020 19: 03 New
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                    Quote: Vadim237
                    manufacturing tactical knives

                    Can you see the product photo? With the characteristics? Very curious.
                  2. Campanella April 17 2020 17: 34 New
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                    Well done. And where will you get the steel?
                3. CSKA April 16 2020 11: 37 New
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                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  You tell him about the fact that we don’t let out planes

                  What are you? And what kind of airplanes do we not produce?
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  that consumer goods are all imported

                  Then how is it that our light industry occupies a quarter of the market? You are such great patriots, go to the store and open your eyes and buy a domestic manufacturer. The same Gloria Jeans for example. But no. The main thing for you is to engage in delusional criticism of everything and everyone.
                  Are you worried about Varkuta? So collect your little things Igor, take Zhenya and the rest of the Communists with you and populate her. And it doesn’t matter that there are unprofitable mines and there is no work. The main thing is to populate.
                  1. Ingvar 72 April 16 2020 12: 14 New
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                    Civil aircraft.
                    Gloria jeans sew 80% of the production in China and Vietnam.
                    And you see, "We have revised." hi
                    1. CSKA April 16 2020 15: 51 New
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                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Civil aircraft.

                      What are you? Right? I’m not so sure. In your opinion, the construction of 195 Superjets, 16 IL-96, 63 Tu-204 over the past 20 years is not the construction of aircraft?
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Gloria jeans sew 80% of the production in China and Vietnam.

                      Well, this is the owner’s private matter where to transfer the production to him. Well Ok, so be it for you.
                      28 pages of companies and factories
                      https://productcenter.ru/producers/catalog-odiezhda-34
                      799 manufacturing companies
                      https://www.proizvoditeli-rossii.ru/odezhda-i-obuv
                      Choose and buy domestic and don’t cry afterwards that we are carrying everything from China.
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      And you see, "We have revised"

                      Sometimes I go to him and read, but that’s what you don’t like about him? And I will answer you myself. You pseudo-patriots in the eyes of success. And you do not like this site because it clearly and really shows what is being built and created. And you are already jarring from this.
                      1. Ingvar 72 April 17 2020 15: 22 New
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                        Quote: CSKA
                        over the past 20 years, this is not the construction of aircraft?

                        Have you flown a long time?
                        Quote: CSKA
                        Well, this is the owner’s private matter where to transfer the production to him.

                        Yes, personal. TK He doesn’t care who works at the factory, who gets paid. The main thing is minimization of losses, not economic recovery. As a result, the average salary in China is higher than in Russia.
                        Quote: CSKA
                        And you don’t like this site because it’s clear and real

                        There pathos and praises of small industries, while at the same time, larger enterprises are closed.
                      2. CSKA April 20 2020 15: 32 New
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                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Have you flown a long time?

                        In summer.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Yes, personal. TK He doesn’t care who works at the factory, who gets paid. The main thing is minimization of losses, not economic recovery.

                        I gave you a list of companies and factories whose production in the Russian Federation. buy more domestic and accordingly our companies will increase domestic production, respectively, the share of our products in the light industry market will increase.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        As a result, the average salary in China is higher than in Russia.

                        In the end, stop playing at exchange rates. You at least take an interest in the prices. In Germany, the average salary is about 3000 euros higher than in the Russian Federation, but in Germany and the Russian Federation this is completely different money. Rent an apartment in Berlin costs 1500 euros. Look at product prices in Germany. And in Russia for 3000 euros you can live 3-5 months quietly.
                        In China, with an average salary of 6000 yuan, the average cost of renting a small studio apartment in Beijing is 5 thousand yuan, and a two-room apartment is 8000 yuan. So read about the prices of products in China.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        There pathos and praises of small industries, while at the same time, larger enterprises are closed.

                        There are a huge number of large enterprises. List of large closed productions in the studio.
                      3. Ingvar 72 April 20 2020 19: 47 New
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                        Quote: CSKA
                        In summer.

                        How many domestic aircraft did you see at the airport? Last year I was in Kurumoch, in the parking lot alone Boeing and a couple of Airbuses. Ours of course is in nature, but there are only a few of them.
                        Quote: CSKA
                        buy more domestic and, accordingly, our companies will increase domestic production

                        It will not be until the tax policy of the state changes. Not one eccentric will not create production in Russia, having a competitor with cheaper products. Either import duties or tax incentives, moreover, the entire production chain.
                        Quote: CSKA
                        In the PRC

                        Do not tell tales. Your figures are relevant for several Chinese cities, this is the same as judging the average cost of housing at prices of Sochi and Moscow.
                        For China, do not even start, I have shoveled the topic for a long time. By products in particular. All opponents are trying to judge prices in Guangzhou, at a time when Beijing is much cheaper.
                        Quote: CSKA
                        List of large closed productions in the studio.

                        AvtoVAZ aggregate and Samara Bearing Plant. This is offhand. Want more, let's bet on interest. Over the past ten years, I think I’ll recruit a hundred, those where over a thousand workers worked.
                        P.S. I look sisters of the Order of the Zaputinians took you under the wing? You answered on a branch three days ago, and already three pluses! I know only one gang-watering can, which raises the rating according to the list of comments in the personal profile. You tell them not to be so scorched! laughing
                      4. CSKA April 22 2020 13: 15 New
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                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        How many domestic aircraft did you see at the airport? Last year I was in Kurumoch, in the parking lot alone Boeing and a couple of Airbuses. Ours of course is in nature, but there are only a few of them.

                        Honestly, I did not pay attention. The fact remains that we produce civilian aircraft, and you write that you don’t. You can call a lot of countries that produce civilian aircraft?
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Not one eccentric will not create production in Russia, having a competitor with cheaper products

                        Already create. Lists I have provided you.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Your figures are relevant for several Chinese cities, this is the same as judging the average cost of housing at prices of Sochi and Moscow.

                        So the average salary in China is not always received. Salaries in Beijing, Shanghai or Shenzhen are much higher than in Harbin or Chongqing. Similarly, housing is priced differently. Just like in our country, salaries in Moscow or St. Petersburg are higher than in Rostov or Yekaterinburg.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        For China, do not even start, I have shoveled the topic for a long time.

                        You shoveled, and the employees of my company drove.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        All opponents are trying to judge prices in Guangzhou, at a time when Beijing is much cheaper.

                        Are you kidding me? What a fright in Beijing is cheaper. Do you even know that even the kitchens are different there?
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        AvtoVAZ aggregate and Samara Bearing Plant. This is offhand. Want more, let's bet on interest.

                        Well, write these hundreds, not units. And then I just list a lot of open moss.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        P.S. I look sisters of the Order of the Zaputinians took you under the wing? You answered on a branch three days ago, and already three pluses! I know only one gang-watering can, which raises the rating according to the list of comments in the personal profile. You tell them not to be so scorched!

                        I have no idea which order you are writing about and I don’t give a damn about the pros and cons.
                        You have critics here, I look, too, the group has formed. Only do whining.
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            4. Campanella April 17 2020 17: 43 New
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              Liberastical nonsense! Do you live on the moon? Or in the Kremlin? We have the whole country because of people like you singing along, the authorities are unprofitable and unpromising. Let's roll it up?
              1. CSKA April 20 2020 15: 35 New
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                Quote: Campanella
                Liberastical nonsense!

                Clown read the meaning of the word liberalism and find liberalism in my words.
                Quote: Campanella
                We have the whole country because of people like you singing along, the authorities are unprofitable and unpromising.

                Losing your brain. The fact that you wrote the level of shkolota 6-7 grade. If you understand economics just like I do in ballet, then it’s better not to write anything.
                1. Campanella April 20 2020 19: 19 New
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                  On your posts you can’t say that you are familiar with the economy.)))
                  How would you explain more simply?
                  Let's just say that the idea of ​​economic liberalism is untenable and the results of Russia's economic growth clearly show this.
                  Your referrals to school and the circus testify to your immaturity and inability to conduct a discussion at a level appropriate for mature people.
                2. CSKA April 22 2020 14: 13 New
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                  Quote: Campanella
                  On your posts you can’t say that you are familiar with the economy.)))

                  In my opinion, it’s just clear that I understand, I, unlike you, do not write nonsense about a loss-making and unpromising country. You don’t even understand what a loss-making country is.
                  Quote: Campanella
                  Let's just say that the idea of ​​economic liberalism is untenable and the results of Russia's economic growth clearly show this.

                  Another confirmation of a complete understanding of nothing in the economy. You have a complete lack of knowledge, but you climb and try to open your mouth as well.
                  Is the liberal economies of Singapore, Hong Kong, South Korea and Japan not wealthy? Why do you think that the Russian Federation has a liberal economy? Have you even been able to understand with your own brain that there can be no state corporations in a liberal economy? In a liberal economy, capitalist management is preferred on the basis of the principle of state non-interference in economic activity, which means the abolition of state subsidies and legal barriers to economic activity. Economic liberals believe that the market does not need government regulation.
                  And the results of the economic growth of the Russian Federation are just very indicative that we are the 6th world economy.
                  Quote: Campanella
                  Your referrals to school and the circus testify to your immaturity and inability to conduct a discussion at a level appropriate for mature people.

                  There is nothing to discuss with people like you, you have the level of knowledge of a drunk locksmith. Carry one nonsense.
                3. Campanella April 22 2020 16: 15 New
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                  Yes, a bad case! I don’t know what kind of education you have ... and to put it mildly, it’s not interesting, because if it is, it didn’t work for you. You interfere like a pioneer, you with your fiery fanaticism can light up small schools and serious conversations are needed the arguments. And your cries, screams and indignation is not a discussion, but a fever!
                4. CSKA April 23 2020 11: 52 New
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                  Quote: Campanella
                  Yes, a bad case! I don’t know what kind of education you have ... and to put it mildly, it’s not interesting, because if it is, it didn’t work for you. You interfere like a pioneer, you with your fiery fanaticism can light up small schools and serious conversations are needed the arguments. And your cries, screams and indignation is not a discussion, but a fever!

                  I am a civil engineer of ASG. Where did you see the arguments? Just another nonsense from a set of words. I mentioned an example of liberal economies, do you think they are not wealthy? He gave an example of the fact that the Russian economy is not liberal, since it has state corporations, state regulation and subsidies. But you have nothing to answer and you just start to whine about young people and serious conversation. A serious conversation can be made with an intelligent person who understands the issue, and not with a person who can only write a set of words. There is nothing to discuss with you; you have no basic knowledge.
                5. Campanella April 23 2020 16: 29 New
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                  In Japan and South Korea, the share of government regulation is quite large, and in Korea it is higher. I won’t say about Singapore, I don’t know. So to say that they are liberal economies, according to the academic definition is not necessary.
                  In general, there are no purely liberal economies; almost everywhere, the state joins in and uses various tools to assist business.
                  Remember the same Britain under Thatcher, when the state bought out the business, restored it and sold it again.
                  And regarding Russia, I can say its economy is more liberal than some others. State corporations in Russia are at the mercy of the president’s friends and are not subject to due control by the state. Of course, maybe she herself does not want to do this, but this is another question.
                  Now, if these state-owned corporations were unitary enterprises, I would not argue with you.
                  Your mantra about serious conversation has no basis. Honestly, I do not see that you are in the subject. You may be offended, but it is a fact.
                6. CSKA April 27 2020 17: 09 New
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                  Quote: Campanella
                  In Japan and South Korea, the share of government regulation is quite large, and in Korea it is higher.

                  What are you? Give examples?
                  Quote: Campanella
                  So to say that they are liberal economies, according to the academic definition is not necessary.

                  Just according to the definition, you can talk, because they stick to the free market. The state does not subsidize anyone there. There are no state corporations.
                  Quote: Campanella
                  In general, there are no purely liberal economies; almost everywhere, the state joins in and uses various tools to assist business.

                  Tools are the creation of special tax zones, a simplified vision of business, but this does not apply in any way to a liberal or conservative economy.
                  Quote: Campanella
                  Remember the same Britain under Thatcher, when the state bought out the business, restored it and sold it again.

                  So what? This is not an indicator of a liberal or conservative economy. These actions were directed in a narrow sphere because of one subsidized industry. And at the same time Thatcher was a conservative and at the same time pursued a policy of liberal economy (monetarism), as well, for example, the Singapore authorities. And under her privatization was actively carried out. Under our rule, privatization was carried out in the Russian Federation? On the contrary, under Putin, state corporations just appeared.
                  And that liberal policy Thatcher is not wealthy, too?
                  Quote: Campanella
                  State corporations in Russia are at the mercy of the president’s friends and are not subject to due control by the state.

                  Do not beat nonsense. What do you mean by the word "farmer"? What do they belong to Putin’s friends? No. and at least you can give an example of the lack of control?
                  Quote: Campanella
                  Now, if these state-owned corporations were unitary enterprises, I would not argue with you.

                  How you would like to see state corporations is your problem. And I personally like joint stock companies are satisfied.
                  Quote: Campanella
                  Your mantra about serious conversation has no basis. Honestly, I do not see that you are in the subject. You may be offended, but it is a fact.

                  There is only one fact that you are trying to pass off your speculations and desires as truth and, moreover, not disputable. In fact, this is the usual whining from the brochure of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, about the failed liberal economy, about state corporations which are not state owned and the rest of the nonsense.
                7. Campanella April 28 2020 22: 04 New
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                  Enlighten you thankless job, you yourself do not want to move a finger?
                  Read Chalmers Johnson, how do you think the Japanese economy has gone up?
                  A similar story is also observed by South Korea, the state has a monopoly on credit and financial activities, etc.
                  In short, Google will help you.
                  Sechin Igor Ivanovich is not an example for you? Miller is not an example? Unreasonably huge salaries of such alleged government officials ???
                  Once again, joint stock companies cannot be called state corporations. Read the statutory documents, if unitary enterprises are under strict state control, then joint-stock companies lack clear control mechanisms. The state is not able to control, in particular, the expenditure of funds.

                  So speculation is your know-how, as well as wishful thinking.
  • Vadim237 April 16 2020 11: 05 New
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    And why did you provide these temperatures — the Republic of Komi and Vorkuta live exclusively in the coal industry, there is no other activity like coal mining — and since coal consumption in the world is decreasing every year soon, all coal industry and coal mining will be covered and with them everything republics and regions where coal mining brings the lion's share to the budget, including Komi, are already actively leaving there because there is nothing more to do there.
    1. NordUral April 16 2020 11: 15 New
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      Vadim, coal (in perspective) will be covered last.
      And the cities and regions as a whole that were created under the Union should not be closed, but re-profile, develop production.
      But with these, this will not happen, not for that they have captured the country.
  • Azis April 15 2020 20: 50 New
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    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    for 60 thousand rubles you can buy a three-room apartment
    With repair and furniture? Or will it be more expensive?
    1. NordUral April 16 2020 00: 10 New
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      So far we are joking - we have a chance.
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    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    In villages, 12130 rubles per person is at least something. For the city, of course, the amount is small. Although in Vorkuta for 60 thousand rubles you can buy a three-room apartment.

    In the villages it’s not just that, it’s a monthly salary, and a good one.
  • Ingvar 72 April 15 2020 21: 37 New
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    Quote: Dead Day
    like a stock exchange, unemployed

    This is if I lost my job no more than a year ago. If a person has not worked for more than a year - 1500 p. hi
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    Moreover, the funds will be disbursed based on the amount of 12130 rubles per person, taking into account the staffing of the company (enterprise) at the beginning of April of the current year.
    I propose to pay such a salary to Sechin with a miller, well, all the officials, along with the Duma.

    And where do people get so much? Or get on paper. And in general, at whose expense is the holiday?
    1. Malyuta April 15 2020 18: 09 New
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      And in general, at whose expense is the holiday?

      You won’t especially celebrate with this money, it’s only for a loaf of bread, well, to pay for a Khatyn.
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        I live in Siberia, and this money helps!
      2. bk316 April 15 2020 22: 31 New
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        You won’t especially celebrate with this money, it’s only for a loaf of bread, well, to pay for a Khatyn.

        Now honestly answer yourself. If everyone were given his average income, would you and your like-minded people be happy, or again down with GDP?
        Well, yes, you yourself answered, you are class evil. Therefore, the virus is just an excuse for you.
        Therefore, everyone will remain with their opinions, this is of course if we all do not rest.
        So stay at home write in, do not become infected, do not infect others.

        To be honest, I have not yet come to the conclusion that the authorities are doing the right thing or not. Serious errors are evident. The truth is not at all what they write about here. Probably time will tell. If there are 100 thousand sick for the entire period, the GDP can order at least 000 lifetime presidencies. If 10 have to leave without waiting 10 years.
        1. Malyuta April 15 2020 23: 44 New
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          Quote: bk316
          So stay at home write in, do not become infected, do not infect others.
          Tip of the day!))) The Ministry of Emergencies cannot reach it three times a day, but here bam! and you and this is normal wink
          Quote: bk316
          To be honest, I have not yet come to the conclusion that the authorities are doing the right thing or not.

          Ok that's honest good It appears that our gazpads were late by 1-1,5 months, in the sense that the "appeal" was out of time, the rush with the "vote" was not bad, although the plan was good and they knew a lot, but Nature let us down, and so on the 22nd “approving” the vacant position of scary, the 23rd quarantine with the emergency and no protests, rallies, strikes and manifestations. Beautiful, is not it? Only now the luck has ended for him, well, he can’t drive it like that for 20 years, but now you can’t cut the back, and now you yourself have destroyed the oil prices and the virus with the “vacation” has arrived, some little thing is missing, but it’s necessary it will come out, as all affairs and affairs come to the surface.
          Quote: bk316
          it is of course if we all do not rest.

          Now let's bash to bash! wink You gave me advice, we will consider that I listened, and now let me distinguish myself too:
          do not look at the zombie, do not take horror stories into your brain and look at what is happening without relatively political addictions and sympathies and the truth will open to you in its completely naked and from this terrible simplicity, without hpp and verbal tinsel and husk.
          1. bk316 April 16 2020 13: 34 New
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            do not watch the zombie creator, do not take horror stories into the brain

            Thanks for the tip, but I follow him anyway. The box is simply no time to watch.
            Regarding horror stories, if you are talking about coronavirus, from the very beginning I communicate with specialists. For two years he worked at the Gabrichevsky Institute hi
    2. Gardamir April 15 2020 18: 16 New
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      And in general, at whose expense is the holiday?
      Just another means of supporting banks.
      1. Evil543 April 15 2020 18: 24 New
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        The bank gave me a loan vacation for a month, cheers, but the interest overpayment increased. Who is who, and bankers will not be lost.
  • DMB 75 April 15 2020 18: 17 New
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    Quote: Malyuta
    to pay such a salary to Sechin and Miller, well, to all officials, along with the Duma.

    I think that they, as honest and noble people, will refuse these salaries and generously transfer them to the needy and needy, thereby demonstrating unity with the people, about whom they bother relentlessly in this difficult time with even more zeal and zeal ..
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      Quote: DMB 75
      I think that they, as honest and noble people, will refuse these salaries and generously transfer them to the needy and poor, thereby demonstrating unity with the people

      Have you ever seen a robber parting with money in favor of terpily?
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        Colleagues, have you ever seen a list of supported enterprises? I saw. There is emphasis on catering enterprises (restaurants, cafes, eateries), as well as on the tourism business. Previously, 180 enterprises of this kind sought help. She received 6 enterprises. The others were refused for various reasons. Since help is given not to the businessman in a small bag, but to his employees. Workers, more often than not, are not officially registered. And if you are not a cook or a waiter, not a worker in the tourism industry, then presidential assistance is unlikely to reach you and stop the gradually increasing level of your material disaster. So many people do not have cash reserves at all. Lived from payday to payday. There are those who are mired in microloans.
        1. Irokez April 15 2020 19: 09 New
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          Well, again, something is wrong.
          Help do not help, and still criticism and not as someone wants.
          Well, at least someone would say that at least thanks for that. Some evil tongues probably forgot what gratitude is.
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            Quote: Irokez
            Well, again, something is wrong.
            Help do not help, and still criticism and not as someone wants.
            Well, at least someone would say that at least thanks for that. Some evil tongues probably forgot what gratitude is.

            Listen, colleague, do you suggest that I’m kneeling before this ... as the main manager ?! Thank you, they say, scary father, benefited ?!
            Oh, shit, I paid them taxes for 30 years, and they deprived me of their pensions, they plunder and give away our bowels without restrictions, they mock my compatriots.
            It’s not on your knees in a grateful outburst that you yourself fall and kiss the boots! This story is not about me. angry
            PySy. Write down one minus in my account, I put it from the heart! am
            1. Irokez April 15 2020 19: 27 New
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              No, on your knees in a grateful impulse it yourself you fall

              Gratitude is not on your knees. You rush to the extreme.
              Yes, at least get angry with anger - these are your internal emotional problems. What you generate is what you get - the law of the universe.
              1. Malyuta April 15 2020 19: 40 New
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                Quote: Irokez
                Gratitude is not on your knees.

                Thanks? To whom? For what? For a handout of $ 150?
                Yes, they burn in hell with their handouts !!!
                Let them tell you better where the national treasure has gone, why my people are rampant and should be rummaged through garbage dumps, and this is in the richest country in the world!
                But I have to thank them that they are not able to operate on children or because instead of aircraft carriers, motor boats are launched into the water? For this? Nooo, colleague, believe me, the people's gratitude is yet to come and there will be no rest for them in this or that world.
                1. Irokez April 15 2020 20: 14 New
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                  You have gone too far to the dearest.
                  - You blame all the sins of those who have already come to ruin and are trying to somehow restore and raise.
                  - You hate everyone in power indiscriminately because you are angry at life that it did not work out or you were not like the others in the right place at the right time.
                  - You are not responsibly advocating going to the barricades and probably staging a Maidan in Kiev without understanding and not predicting what will happen to everyone, and not just to you (although you probably plan to be at the helm).
                  - Crisis and coronavirus, which would not have begun, would you probably be silent, and only when the difficulty arose, it turns out that you are undermining and agitating the government with insults, allegedly for the authorities' inability to take measures. But do not introduce self-isolation and start a real epidemic. You would immediately yell: - "Where the government is looking - where is the quarantine."
                  “Send them to hell at the stake.” And remember the commandment: - "Do not judge and you will not be judged." By the way very often shoots.
                  - Personally, you look at yourself from the side, you lose your mind and logic on emotions during unexpected difficulties because you cannot balance your feelings, resentment, expectations and psyche. In critical conditions, the main thing is not to panic and calmly weigh everything, and not shout: - "We have a country being steamed without me."
                  Calm down dear, we will not die and even the government will remain the same as it was until this moment, and you need to work on yourself a little.

                  By the way, the article was written by whom? Who is author? And who is this cunning author who seems to have written about the government’s proposals for compensation, but at the end he threw a spoonful of tar in order to bicker everyone with the last words:
                  it is not entirely clear who and by what criteria will attribute the enterprise to the affected industry, and how adequate will be the monitoring of such activities and the targeted allocation of funds.

                  In the network, the allocation of finance has already been called "salary from the president."


                  as if he were telling everyone: - "torment yourself, fortune-telling payments and to whom and when and so on, and attributed the adequacy to the type of officials reproach everything as always" also called somehow with a podkavkaryu "salary from the president".

                  You all critics threw an apple of discord with this article with its end and you rushed to gnaw at everyone and everyone. Shame on us Russian people.
                  1. Malyuta April 15 2020 20: 48 New
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                    Quote: Irokez
                    Irokez (Sergey)

                    I carefully read your comment categorically disagree, but thank you for clarifying your position. hi
                    My hatred, which I did not hide and do not hide, does not rest on envy at all, which I have repeatedly pointed out. Imagine there is hatred, but there is NO envy! My hatred is my personal affair and it has a pronounced, if you like, class character, you can consider me a marginal intellectual (as defined by a certain citizen of Deripaska).
                    Quote: Irokez
                    You all critics threw an apple of discord with this article with its end and you rushed to gnaw at everyone and everyone.

                    I was not going to squabble with you, as well as with other fellow citizens. You expressed your unacceptable position for me, I expressed my.
                    As for your extreme phrase, I completely agree, but not with the meaning that you put in it, here I am really ashamed of fellow citizens.
                    1. Irokez April 15 2020 21: 15 New
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                      This is where a more intelligent person is felt. Though the opinions do not coincide, the construct in the demon has already been observed and this is correct (+). good
                  2. 210ox April 15 2020 20: 55 New
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                    Came to the ruins ???! Yes, V. Putin is one of those who ruined the Great Country in the 90s.
                    1. tagil April 16 2020 10: 57 New
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                      Yes, yes, but an alcoholic labeled with Borka lifted this country, raised it, raised it so far that we still can’t stand on its feet normally. I am not for Putin or against him, he is and most of the people voted for him. But people like you burned armored personnel carriers in the barricades in the 90s and boasted to each other that they had killed the "chain dog", but in fact, you did not think about the collapse of the country when you were a nineteen-year-old conscript. Now live silently in a country of underdeveloped capitalism.
                    2. tagil April 16 2020 11: 18 New
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                      And you have no brains to think that a person who is much worse than Putin can come to power and then you will live under developed capitalism, where you will have to pay $ 30 or $ 000 for a doctor’s appointment, but not under Putin’s regime, right .
                  3. stalki April 15 2020 20: 57 New
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                    I agree with everything they wrote, there’s nothing to add. good subscribe the same way.
                  4. Alex bergman April 16 2020 03: 23 New
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                    Respected! And why are you for them (power) so drown ??? Motivated? Or mishandled? Can you imagine a bunch of problems getting 12 130 ??? It’s not practically possible to formalize! Do you know which companies receive compensation from the state for “suffering” from a pandemic?))) There are such as Fonbet (totalizator in sports), McDonald's and Coca-Cola Rus with foreign registrations and a bunch of others (there are more than 600 of them)! These ... are the most affected !!! Do not you think that this is stupid theft ?! And I'm sure of that! And not so much they need as the vast majority of people in the country! Yes, at least they gave the capital partially removed! Nooo! This is a loss! A cut 1 trillion rubles are bonuses in your pocket! And you drown for them ??? Shame on you???
                    A simple calculation is 1 trillion / approximately 145 million people in the country = approximately 6 each. Standard family - 800 people. Total 4 26 ₽ per family.
                    Can I live on this money for a month ??? Can! Without nishtyakov, but you can live. This is real help to the people, and not stuffing a pocket for the bourgeoisie! That's the direction you need to move! This is REAL socialism!
                    You stoke for "clowns" and "thieves" bourgeois!
                    Fear God!
                    PS Commerce is not controlled by government agencies (or by prior conspiracy with them) - receiving loans for salaries and 12 130 ₽ - will not give anyone anything! Because they need IT! And it must be returned! Suppose that in some ways I’m not accurate (too lazy to paint) - but .... People - will not see the ruble !!! Or leave at your own expense or dismissal!
                    Do not create illusions for this power! And do not introduce normal people into fornication !!! Putin probably wants to help the people, but the vertical of power is not.
                    1. Irokez April 16 2020 08: 26 New
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                      Quote: Alex Bergman
                      Putin probably wants to help the people, but the vertical of power is not.

                      So at least thank Putin if he wants to do something, but decide with the rest on the ground.
                      But basically I do not agree with your post because even in the same McDonalds our people (not foreigners) work, at least think about it. Whether they will receive or not will be seen by transfers to their accounts and there are other methods of control (it’s not for nothing that Mishustin, as a tax specialist, deals with fees and control).
                      Not everything is as you painted. hi
            2. CSKA April 16 2020 11: 42 New
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              they plunder and give away our bowels without restrictions

              Well, of course. Then, probably, the USSR also plundered our bowels. And who didn’t tell what they gave?
              Quote: Malyuta
              they mock at my compatriots.

              As usual a set of words. But don’t tell us how they mock us, otherwise the majority of the population does not know that they mock them.
          2. Revival April 15 2020 19: 26 New
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            Thanks for the idle talk !?
            “Moreover, an important point is that funds will be allocated for small and medium-sized enterprises of the“ affected sectors ”.
            That is, those who were forbidden to work and they were left without money, but they are not a travel company, should be thankful?
            For what? Because they were left to survive as they want, but under fines?
            1. Irokez April 15 2020 19: 30 New
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              Quote: Revival
              That is, those who were forbidden to work and they were left without money, but they are not a travel company, should be thankful?

              Have you seen this document? Give a link.
              1. Revival April 15 2020 19: 31 New
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                Which document?
                1. Irokez April 15 2020 19: 35 New
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                  Quote: Revival
                  Which document?

                  Where it is written which enterprises will be compensated.
                  1. Revival April 15 2020 20: 00 New
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                    Here you can, you can personally look at this list, which concerns almost no one!
                    10 of the thousands of OKVED codes!
                    I was officially answered, you are past the forest, only pay the tax no later than May 6, helped ....

                    http://gov.garant.ru/SESSION/PILOT/main.htm

                    Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of April 3, 2020 N 434
                    “On approval of the list of sectors of the Russian economy that were most affected by the deterioration of the situation as a result of the spread of a new coronavirus infection” (as amended on 10.04.2020).
                    With changes and additions from:
                    10 April 2020 city

                    The Government of the Russian Federation decides:
                    1. To approve the attached list of sectors of the Russian economy that were most affected by the deteriorating situation as a result of the spread of a new coronavirus infection.
                    2. To establish that the list approved by this resolution is used to apply Part 1 of Article 7 of the Federal Law "On Amendments to the Federal Law" On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia) "and certain legislative acts of the Russian Federation regarding the features of the change terms of the loan agreement, loan agreement "in relation to borrowers belonging to small and medium-sized enterprises, who concluded before the effective date of the specified Federal Law with a creditor - credit organization or non-credit financial organization that carries out activities for the provision of loans (loans), a loan agreement (loan agreement), including a loan agreement (loan agreement), obligations under which are secured by a mortgage, which are entitled at any time during the term of such an agreement, but no later than September 30, 2020, to contact the creditor with a request for amendment its terms of suspension Increasing the performance by the borrower of its obligations for a period determined by the borrower.
                    3. This resolution shall enter into force on the day the Federal Law "On Amendments to the Federal Law" On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia) "and certain legislative acts of the Russian Federation regarding the peculiarities of changing the terms of the loan agreement, loan agreement" enter into force.

                    Chairman of the Government
                    Russian Federation

                    M. Mishustin

                    APPROVED
                    government decree
                    Russian Federation
                    dated April 3, 2020 N 434

                    List
                    sectors of the Russian economy that were most affected by the deteriorating situation as a result of the spread of a new coronavirus infection

                    Field of activity, name of type of economic activity
                    OKVED code 2
                    1. Air transportation, airport activities, trucking
                    Other land passenger transport
                    49.3
                    Automobile freight transport and transportation services
                    49.4
                    Activities of passenger air transport
                    51.1
                    Air cargo activities
                    51.21
                    Bus stations and bus stations
                    52.21.21
                    Activities auxiliary related to air transport
                    52.23.1
                    2. Culture, leisure and entertainment
                    Creative, art and entertainment activities
                    90
                    3. Physical well-being activities and sports
                    Activities in the field of sports, recreation and entertainment
                    93
                    Physical well-being activities
                    96.04
                    Activities of sanatorium organizations
                    86.90.4
                    4. Activities of travel agencies and other organizations providing tourism services
                    Activities of travel agencies and other organizations providing tourism services
                    79
                    5. Hotel business
                    Temporary residency activities
                    55
                    6. Catering
                    Food and Beverage Activities
                    56
                    7. Activities of continuing education organizations, non-governmental educational institutions
                    Additional education for children and adults
                    85.41
                    The provision of day care services for children
                    88.91
                    8. Activities for the organization of conferences and exhibitions
                    Organization of conferences and exhibitions
                    82.3
                    9. Activities for the provision of household services to the population (repair, washing, dry cleaning, hairdressing and beauty salons)
                    Repair of computers, personal items and household supplies
                    95
                    Laundry and dry cleaning of textile and fur products
                    96.01
                    Hairdressing and beauty salons
                    96.02
                    End of page
                    1. Irokez April 15 2020 20: 25 New
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                      Already at least something.
                      I am happy for these people. Are you not happy for them?
                    2. Revival April 15 2020 22: 03 New
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                      I'm glad for them, but it's not about them, but about those who allocated 00000000,1% of the necessary help!
                      When the "doctor" gives you 00000001% of the medication necessary for your survival, while having a suitcase of medicine, you would need it, this doctor ...
                    3. Irokez April 15 2020 22: 07 New
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                      )))
                      You do not trust the doctor? )))
                      Do not self-medicate. Dangerously. wink
                      Although I will say so. Everyone should know how and what to treat for those who treat you can heal you to death. Everywhere should be a reasonable approach because even doctors can make mistakes or vice versa seeing that you don’t need medicine and reassure you with a dummy hoping for an effect placebo. (Well, that's philosophical.)
                    4. Revival April 15 2020 22: 30 New
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                      The fact that simply philosophy, I noticed
                  2. bk316 April 15 2020 22: 25 New
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                    00000000,1%

                    Somewhere in the wrong place a comma.
                    Probably wanted 0,00000001%?
                    Well then, you need somewhere 12 to 10 to the 18th degree roughly 12 to 10 to 16 bucks.
                    What would be more understandable a little more than 120 trillion dollars per month belay
                    And your appetites are not frail. So much for the whole time of the existence of mankind on the entire planet has not been printed. And why do you always have wrestlers with numbers?
                  3. Revival April 15 2020 22: 32 New
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                    You can continue to pretend to be stupid (you do well), but this is not a calculated number, but a transmitting perception.
                    2. In essence, you probably have nothing to say.
                    You can, of course, give stunning examples of how they help us, at least also or more than in Germany, the USA and so on.
                    In retirement age, we blamed them as the right ones ...
                    I think I can’t wait of course, but suddenly
                  4. bk316 April 15 2020 22: 42 New
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                    calculated

                    Calculated. The numbers dear person do not serve to convey perception but to measure.
                    Essentially I wrote. Malyute
                    In fact. NOW it is important how much 100 or 000 get sick.
                    And all these 12000 or bleating about the legal differences between emergency situations and self-isolation is about nothing.
                  5. Revival April 15 2020 22: 44 New
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                    I agree, about nothing.
                    In my personal opinion, the fact that the people are at the top and the law turned out to be unnecessary and zeroed.
                2. Irokez April 15 2020 22: 45 New
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                  Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
                  Well, I'm not the sovereign who runs the country, not the president and not the prime minister.
                  They probably know how much and to whom.
                  Well, for example, the elements of the house flooded, the wind demolished the roof and the victims are given some compensation. I must say right away that it’s not very big, but they give (for example, my uncle got a little after the hurricane). But again, not all, but only the victims. And about today, but probably they give it to the most affected, and why you didn’t get to them is not a question for me.
                  Oh, I probably shouldn't interfere in the conversation. I am silent.
              2. Irokez April 15 2020 22: 35 New
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                You must have confused me with someone, I haven’t written such numbers anywhere, and I only learned about them from you. Probably not your appeal to me. request
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                You must have confused me with someone, I

                This is how I roared.
              4. Revival April 15 2020 22: 47 New
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                I think what you are responding to was pretended to be a misunderstanding philosopher formalist bk316
              5. Irokez April 15 2020 22: 48 New
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                Maybe yes. muddler. recourse
              6. Revival April 15 2020 22: 51 New
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                Right now we are waiting a little bit ...
                In response to my comment, he gathers, I am sure, examples of assistance to the population in our country, which interrupt the volume of assistance to people in the United States and Germany, we will rejoice together, and maybe we will use it!
                We are waiting ... with hope
  • Lannan Shi April 15 2020 20: 21 New
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    Quote: Irokez
    Help do not help, and still criticism and not as someone wants.
    Well, at least someone would say that, though, thanks for that

    Can I clarify? For what exactly?
    Article 7 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
    1. The Russian Federation is a social state whose policy is aimed at creating conditions that ensure a decent life and free development of a person.
    The state forbade people to work. Based on this very article, in this case, it owes create conditions for worthy life to people. If it does not allow them to do it on their own. Actually, at least it is necessary to plant sobeputy for actions aimed at undermining the constitutional system of Russia. If you look at the letter of the law.
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      Quote: Lannan Shi
      1. The Russian Federation is a social state whose policy is aimed at creating conditions that ensure a decent life and free development of a person.

      And what's wrong
      Government trying to create conditions (for part of the population) providing a decent life.
      Maybe I didn’t understand correctly what they were trying to do. request
      1. Lannan Shi April 15 2020 20: 53 New
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        The government is trying to create conditions (for part of the population) that ensure a decent life.

        Laponka ... We have a government, a handful of men far beyond 50, if on average. When men of this age try do their work, but they have it It does not work, the only way out for such .... Retraining in janitors. For already by 30 or a person is working, and not trying, or it is a classic hand-of-the-priest, basically unsuitable for more than working as an auxiliary worker at a construction site or as a night watchman.
        1. Irokez April 15 2020 21: 11 New
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          Quote: Lannan Shi
          Laponka.

          Yeah, yeah.

          Our government, a bunch of men far beyond 50

          Tav somewhere and women were squeezed (this is to the fact that there are men and women in nature).

          When men of this age try to do their job, but they can’t do it at all, the only way out for such people is .... Retraining in janitors.

          Excellent - the road young and inexperienced, iPhone fans and followers, to all consumers and party-goers, worshipers and bomb worshipers.
          Let’s vote for you and you, as Jeanne D'ark, will lead a reasonable crowd towards a brighter future (well, in extreme cases, Ksyushu).
          I want to remind you: - "the road to Hell is lined with good intentions" (do not miss). And also, by the way, emotions are “off”.
        2. CSKA April 16 2020 11: 46 New
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          Quote: Lannan Shi
          trying to do their job, but they can’t do it

          But do not tell us what they can’t do? You are probably a Nobel laureate in economics, have studied all the macro and microeconomic indicators and made such a conclusion.
      2. Revival April 15 2020 22: 36 New
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        Now, if you find in the constitution about what only a small part of the population should, then we’ll discuss
  • Snarkxnumx April 15 2020 21: 25 New
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    "Well, here again, something is wrong" I thought when they would not be thankful to shame us here .... The first one went ...
  • Sobol April 15 2020 19: 13 New
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    Quote: Malyuta

    Have you ever seen a robber parting with money in favor of terpily?

    Robin Hood! wassat
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      Robin Hood!

      noooo, Robin Hood is not a hero of our kingdom, but rather Robin Bobin Barabek good drinks
    2. Grim Reaper April 15 2020 20: 49 New
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      Quote: SoboL
      Quote: Malyuta

      Have you ever seen a robber parting with money in favor of terpily?

      Robin Hood! wassat

      Stand!
      Sir, I am a beggar and I have nothing.
      I'm Robin Hood. I take money from the rich and give it to the poor. You have a purse of gold.
      I am rich, I am rich!
      Stand!
  • Svarog April 15 2020 19: 00 New
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    Quote: DMB 75
    I think that they, as honest and noble people, will refuse these salaries and generously transfer them to the needy and needy, thereby demonstrating unity with the people, about whom they bother relentlessly in this difficult time with even more zeal and zeal ..

    Rather, they will blame you as an agent of the State Department than they will refuse from the RFP ... they don’t agree wassat
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    Quote: DMB 75
    Quote: Malyuta
    to pay such a salary to Sechin and Miller, well, to all officials, along with the Duma.

    I think that they, as honest and noble people, will refuse these salaries and generously transfer them to the needy and needy, thereby demonstrating unity with the people, about whom they bother relentlessly in this difficult time with even more zeal and zeal ..

    It would be possible to put 10 pluses, I would put. Of course, they will list, in orderly rows (not only named by you, there 2-3 regiments will be typed, and maybe a division) will go and list, and then they will catch up and list again, until you start to refuse :))
  • Leshy1975 April 15 2020 18: 37 New
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    Quote: Malyuta
    "According to Vladimir Putin, from May 1, company representatives will be able to send an application for cash to pay salaries to employees. At the same time, funds will be disbursed based on the amount of 12130 rubles per person taking into account the staffing of the company (enterprise) at the beginning of April of the current year. "

    I propose to pay such a salary to Sechin and Miller, well, to all officials, along with the Duma. good

    Such support is no longer bad. People really need to survive.
    The whole question is one - will it be implemented and in what form?
    From the first appeal, where he also promised, so far nothing has been done in reality.
    And Sobyanin, too, turned out to be "funny" (source https://www.mos.ru/front/markup/header-footer/media/logotype.8a0f3ccb.svg):
    Due to the situation with coronavirus infection, city residents can count on for increased payout in the amount of 19,5 thousand rubles a month ...
    The indicated payments can be received by Muscovites who worked this year. not less than 60 calendar days. Compensation will be paid from April 1 to September 30.

    The following is taken from the traveler1 blog:

    2020 year.
    I quarter.
    From January 1 to the start of the pre-trial detention center - 55 working days.
    There is a feeling that I don’t understand something ...

    PS Let's see what of the promised once again will be fulfilled. But I would not really hope, remembering the implementation of all promised earlier. For all the years of rule.
    1. Speedy April 15 2020 19: 20 New
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      Why do you provide this former Ukrainian of Jewish origin, living in Spain and shitting on Russia as a source?
      1. Leshy1975 April 15 2020 20: 31 New
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        Quote: Sorrow
        Why do you provide this former Ukrainian of Jewish origin, living in Spain and shitting on Russia as a source?

        1) Here it is
        former Ukrainian of Jewish origin
        definitely not a vice.
        2) I do not know where you saw that he is crap, and even less so on Russia.
        First, L. Vershinin sarcastically criticizes the power of the Russian Federation. Well, so I personally (and many others on the site) also write caustically about the power of the Russian Federation.
        Secondly, L. Vershinin very clearly separates the current state of the Russian Federation from Great Russia. Because, the Russian Federation has existed for only 29 years and it is not known how long such a state will last under such leadership.
        3) I myself, when I started reading it in 2014, what was he still predicting about the situation in the Donbass and the Russian Spring. At first I thought that I would catch depression. After all, we already waited - Kiev will be ours, Ukraine, following the Crimea, will be with us!

        PS Vershinin (Traveler1), even then he was right that he predicted what happened. Read the Traveler1, even if it’s hard on your soul from what you read. Better is the bitter truth than propaganda from Soloviev and Co. hi
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          L. Vershinin is a friend of Karchinsky, which he does not hide. This is so, by the way. I will not even recall his posts about the fact that it is necessary to attack Syria (Israel), and much more. In general, I am very touched and credible by the "sympathy" and objectivity of a person writing about Russia from Spain. He may not have been a bad science fiction, it is not for me to judge, otherwise the enemy.
    2. Revival April 15 2020 19: 30 New
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      What kind of help? 000000,1%?
      This kills everything at once: "Moreover, the important point is that funds will be allocated for small and medium-sized enterprises of the“ affected sectors ”.
      Yes, and those 000000,1%, as you can see, will be sewn and will not receive anything, using the example of the previously promised.
      In particular, banks rejected 85% of applications for credit holidays (CB), the remaining 15% are still pending.
      1. Leshy1975 April 15 2020 20: 16 New
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        What kind of help? 000000,1%?
        This kills everything at once: "Moreover, the important point is that funds will be allocated for small and medium-sized enterprises of the“ affected sectors ”.
        Yes, and those 000000,1%, as you can see, will be sewn and will not receive anything, using the example of the previously promised.
        In particular, banks rejected 85% of applications for credit holidays (CB), the remaining 15% are still pending.

        I agree with you completely hi . I had the same thing in mind. Where are the promises, and where is the reality.
    3. Jack sklo April 15 2020 22: 32 New
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        You do not confuse calendar days with workers.

        There it is - Production calendar for 2020. Taken here - https://www.mos.ru/ hi
    4. Alex bergman April 16 2020 03: 35 New
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      Yes kidalovo is another! Such unrealistic conditions created !!! Only units will get! Well, for statistics, they don’t need more;))))
  • Svarog April 15 2020 18: 51 New
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    At the same time, it is not yet clear who and by what criteria will classify the enterprise as a affected industry, and how adequate will be the monitoring of such activities and the targeted allocation of funds.

    And this is the whole point .. the money will reach the elite ..
    I propose to pay such a salary to Sechin and Miller, well, to all officials, along with the Duma. good

    They spend so much money for dinner at a restaurant a day ..
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      In general, he lives in some other world, in which, as he believes, all officials, bankers, oligarchs and other "fat cats" obey him, like soldiers of the commander and flee instantly to fulfill any whim and decree-order. But in fact, they laid it on him ... Now, he was there, saying something about credit holidays, about deferred payments, etc. ... and now, right now, I received an SMS notification from Alpha not to forget April 20 to pay the next loan and mortgage payment. And then comes an SMS from the management company with a “request” to pay for utility bills and utilities immediately in 2 months for April and May! What, huh? Oh, Vova, Vova ....
      1. Snail N9 April 15 2020 19: 38 New
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        I don’t understand why we should collect papers that we are unemployed, then send them to the bank with a request for a “credit vacation” for consideration, then wait 30 days for the bank’s decision to give a vacation or not (how shows statistics, only 15% of "requests" satisfy)? The same thing with housing and communal services. Was the president’s order not working since March 30? It was! And why was there no order for all banks to provide credit vacations in the same way from March 30? Without any “30 day commission review”? And so it turns out, he promised like a "vacation", but in fact, he promised nothing, that the bank will decide that it will. The same applies to utilities. We sit without income-wages, but we must continue to feed fat cats in banks and housing and communal services, you see, you can’t leave them without income. Can we be?
        1. Svarog April 15 2020 19: 41 New
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          Quote: Snail N9
          I don’t understand at all why we should collect papers saying that we are unemployed, then send them to the bank with a request for a “credit vacation” for consideration, then wait for 30 days

          And I just understand .. This is necessary in order to pay as little as possible ... He will now promise to the whole country, as always, and when it comes to business, it turns out that getting this payment is practically impossible .. Well, then .. "please treat with understanding" I reset to zero ..
        2. Revival April 15 2020 22: 00 New
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          "as statistics show, only 15% of" requests "satisfy."
          Not even that!
          15% of applications are still pending! They may well not be satisfied!
      2. Malyuta April 15 2020 19: 53 New
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        He generally lives in some other world

        the man in the case ....
  • Hto tama April 15 2020 19: 50 New
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    Well, in previous appeals, Putin promised to pay the unemployed no lower than the subsistence level, the people who asked these questions at the labor exchange are online, they will answer you Putin promised, ask him laughing , nothing new in mother Russia, people live on residual principle hi drinks
    1. depressant April 15 2020 20: 37 New
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      Yeah! To my call to put Putin’s instructions into practice, a small official from the OVIR back in 2005 answered me: “Putin never said much!”
  • Peter is not the first April 15 2020 20: 47 New
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    Sechin and Miller on the type of such a salary will go to an American court and win compensation in the billions of dollars from Russia for insulting the action.
  • Andrey Koptelov April 15 2020 21: 33 New
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    What did you want ?? What would all of this scourge pay fifty dollars per month for sitting at home? So only in a fairy tale it happens, and that is not always ...
  • SSR
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    At the same time, funds will be disbursed based on the amount of 12130 rubles per person

    This aphid, I have a loan of 20000 per month. Thank you for supporting business and banks. We have no money, but we are holding on.
    Pee Pee Pee Pee.
    This is my credit problem, but where is the support? Why banks will not be told support here, but you also stop for half a year, for example.
    Now it’s finally clear that the military-industrial complex and its affiliated business are in power. This cluster works without isolation.
  • Teberii April 15 2020 17: 57 New
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    And who and how will count, identify the victims. After the last flood, not all people were given what they promised, but what they promised they were pulled away. Here and wait by the sea for the weather.
    1. Malyuta April 15 2020 18: 01 New
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      And who and how will count, identify the victims

      Everything will be decided in a straight line with the president, on the principle of whoever doesn’t get through, he doesn’t want to.
      1. Teberii April 15 2020 18: 05 New
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        We will wait until the fall, and there we will begin to count chickens at meetings with the president.
        1. Gardamir April 15 2020 18: 18 New
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          Let's wait until the fall
          They are already hinting that the cove should last until September, and then a month later, the second wave.
        2. Malyuta April 15 2020 18: 18 New
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          We will wait until the fall, and there we will begin to count chickens at meetings with the president.

          In truth, to see him and listen to 4 hours of the next bout about promises with variations, there is no longer any desire. For 20 years, he has already said everything, you can parse into quotes.
          "Treat this with understanding."
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            Quote: Malyuta
            In truth, to see him and listen to 4 hours of the next bout about promises with variations, there is no longer any desire.


            Eloquently...
            1. Svarog April 15 2020 19: 42 New
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              Eloquently...

              Duck is not listening already .. because they do not believe .. how much you can chat and promise .. everyone thinks exactly that ..
            2. Irokez April 15 2020 19: 45 New
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              Well, you are even more eloquent and incomprehensible.
              You’re showing a pro-liberal newspaper while you are advocating for the USSR and the Communists, and at the same time you are referring to your opponents only. You already decide.
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                Showing a pro-liberal newspaper

                Well, actually the merchant belongs to Usmanov, who, if not in the close circle of friends of the galley slave, is next to him. In fact, the messenger of the government is obtained. Be careful with hanging the labels of liberals, and it’s not long to agree that the chief bird himself is a liberal.
                1. Irokez April 15 2020 20: 37 New
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                  Stay away from the businessman, otherwise you will be left without pants.
                  1. Lannan Shi April 15 2020 20: 42 New
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                    Quote: Irokez
                    Stay away from the businessman, otherwise you will be left without pants

                    Do you blame the publication, which belongs to a person close to the guarantor, of intrigues against me? Citizens of the Russian Federation? Yes, you seem to be a Cossack mishandled, an agent of the State Department, or of border intelligence. Trying to discredit the honest name of the most humble person, vagit ibn yusuf. He laid the life in the service of Russia and its people. You are a traitor, a traitor and a liberal. yes .
                    1. Irokez April 15 2020 20: 56 New
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                      Quote: Lannan Shi
                      You are a traitor, a traitor and a liberal.

                      Do you blame me for the general wave of criticism and expect support in the form of pluses?
                      Right now you will get spit because of emotional slogans for the crowd is controlled by popular and desirable slogans and ideas. Reason and will are suppressed, and it is precisely on this wave that Maidans are carried out, driven by clever shepherds grazing a rally. Shout more: - "Who does not ride - that ........" and you will see the horses come running.
                      (manual for managing people).
                      1. Lannan Shi April 15 2020 21: 13 New
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                        Quote: Irokez
                        Do you blame me for the general wave of criticism and expect support in the form of pluses?

                        Laponka. I spit on both the pros and cons. If you scroll through the history of my coms - make sure. I am writing what I want, and where I want. Essentially scoring on the fact that there we are bored / spat. Well, if specifically here and now I will pick up the pros, and you are the cons ... Or vice versa ... Kismet.
                        And in this particular case ... Well, okay. I will explain. You just float in terms. Rushing the word liberal, and not understanding what exactly it means. And I’m trying in a joking way, in a joking manner, to inform you that at the moment, the most terrible liberals are at the helm in Russia. Orthodox. Of which you can in a jar of alcohol and in the window of the museum, under the plate with the inscription - classic liberal, sample of the early 19th century. For in natural conditions, liberals of this kind only in Russia remained. In the west and east, they became extinct like mammoths, about 100 years old. You one, study a little the topic of liberalism, then determine who is liberal and who went for a walk.
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                        Quote: Lannan Shi
                        at the helm in Russia, at the moment, are the most terrible liberals

                        Here. It was necessary to begin with this.
                        But. Not everyone is liberal there.
                        I. If everyone indiscriminately cuts with a saber, then there will be a wild field and one will come who will put things in order and divide the territory into many states. Then remember the proverb: - ​​"What we do not value, but who have lost weeping." Reflect (so inadvertently), and whether it is necessary at this hour to change the horses at the crossing. love
                      3. Lannan Shi April 15 2020 21: 54 New
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                        Quote: Irokez
                        But. Not everyone is liberal there.

                        Ugums. At the bonfire on which Mr. Cook was toasted 20 islanders sat. But only 5 of them were convinced cannibals, the remaining 15 sat down just like that ... Warm up and eat. And yes, they are not liberals, ugh you, not cannibals. It’s just their life.
                        Quote: Irokez
                        Reflect (so inadvertently), and whether it is necessary at this hour to change the horses at the crossing

                        These horses do not change at the crossing. Donkeys are needed.
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                        These horses do not change at the crossing. Donkeys are needed.

                        Well, wonderful. Change the words.
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                        At the bonfire on which Mr. Cook was toasted 20 islanders sat.

                        Only now it dawned on me where the cooking came from smile
  • rocket757 April 15 2020 18: 07 New
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    You won’t call it manna from heaven, but how will it be fulfilled ???
    Those who have enterprises work are very lucky!
    I wonder what statistics will be presented. How many people are employed in small business?
    1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 15 2020 18: 11 New
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      It will be executed, as always, through one place.
      1. rocket757 April 15 2020 18: 41 New
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        It will be executed, as always, through one place.

        I really do not want to be convinced, again and again, that our officials can promote GDP decrees simply by firmly growing in their soft seats!
      2. depressant April 15 2020 19: 52 New
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        So.
        Yesterday I went for a walk to the loggia. I look, a familiar deputy from EP is walking down the lane. Well, they said hello, but I’ll take it and ask, they say, will there be any help to the people? What is heard in the region, in the region? The deputy, a sharp, rude woman, speechless for several seconds, suffocated, led her head from side to side and expressed herself abusively on our entire lane. And she said something. The regional government has allocated money for pensioners. For several thousand rubles. Instead of transferring this money to pensioners on cards, we decided to organize help for them in the form of food parcels. And there is a suspicion that the officials halved the money, partly in their own pocket, and for the remaining ones in bulk, it means they bought some unsightly canned food, macaroni and groats on the cheap. The cardboard "gift" boxes due to our village were dumped at the mayor's office, and activists began to distribute notices in order to drop them in the mail to pensioners. Like, come for the boxes, take it. And then a striking picture emerged: the mailboxes were filled with payments for gas, electricity and water. If the payments were not taken, then notices will not be taken. This forced activists to go to apartments. Pensioners categorically refused to open the doors, motivating self-isolation and accompanying the refusal with the words "Yes, you go to hell with your gifts!" Or even stronger. Like, you never know what kind of carriers of coronavirus those canned food were in their hands, packed boxes, transported to cities and towns and with what hands they will now take passports and other documents - they just won't give out. In general, frightened retirees in their deaths abandoned the regional handouts, motivating them with fear of infection and, in any case, insulting activists in a variety of ways. My friend also received her portion of abuse. And when she left, I was struck by an electric shock: payments! Wearing a mask and gloves, I went down to the floor for papers, then, after washing my shoes, washing my gloves and mask, I opened the payment documents. My God! Last month I paid 700 rubles more than usual. In this, to the previous 700 another 700 were thrown. For what?
        And this morning, a woman with a small dog from the last entrance, not having calmed down from yesterday, vindictively scolded unhappy activists, so loudly that I probably heard our whole quarter.
        1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 15 2020 20: 01 New
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          And can you clarify the region and the city where such indecency occurred? Well, I’ll google it, I can find some information.
          It is unlikely that federal money issued for the specific payment of a certain category of citizens can be easily unwound. Someone I do not believe in this story. Although anything can happen with us. Well, you specify where it was, if it's not difficult for you. Thank you in advance.
          1. depressant April 15 2020 21: 31 New
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            Dear Alexey Alexandro ... (s? -Ich?) Don't flatter me. Not a writer, I am not a poet, that is, not a writer. I'm just a sad akyn - what I see, I sing))) I wish you health! I'm sorry if I offended
            love hi
            1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 15 2020 21: 33 New
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              And do not answer the question? Where was that? In Ivanovo or maybe in Angarsk? Is it difficult for you to clarify?
              1. depressant April 15 2020 21: 37 New
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                Central Russia.
                1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 15 2020 22: 20 New
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                  In central Russia there are many regions and districts. Or have you not yet figured out in which exactly this monstrous story happened?
                  1. rocket757 April 16 2020 09: 35 New
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                    And yet she spins !!!
                    And is "Agent DEPRESSANT", the narrator / writer still the same?
                    The officials are already afraid of losing their job, only the completely frostbitten ones acted insolently, but natural selection is gradually taking place .... moreover, central Russia, this is not Dark Cockroach, some kind of slander / complaint quickly reaches the one who needs it!
                    Our governor’s simply received pensioners on cards and EVERYTHING!
                  2. Rjkley April 16 2020 18: 38 New
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                    If this story is true, then I will not be surprised at all ...
                    About 10 years ago, the Mayor of the southern city convened a meeting of officials, on the eve of the next elections to * legislative bodies *, and among the orders and instructions were: To bring disabled people to the EdRa rally, and it is indicative for the social office to hand them wheelchairs! (The carriages were already received by the office as PLANNED for disabled people on the waiting list). So with pomp and did! Well, the head of that office soon left this post - the soul could not stand ... a retired Officer of such cynicism (regular) ...
                    PS: The head of that social office is the Father of my Friend! Well, he was preparing to become the Olympic capital ...
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                    We still have big bosses Wishlist have endless. But the situation is on the line and they just fear run up. Fly out of your easy chair, this is the end of everything .... if you do not stock up in advance in full.
                    Lower-ranking officials are simply afraid of losing the nishtyaks they get when they retire.
  • Mordvin 3 April 15 2020 18: 39 New
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    I wonder what statistics will be presented.

    Dead souls will be written.
    1. rocket757 April 15 2020 18: 57 New
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      Expect EVERYTHING! Faith facing upward, many do not have at all.
      1. Irokez April 15 2020 19: 49 New
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        Faith dies last, but this is not the end of life - just believe and do not have illusions and expectations of your imagination because they are usually deceptive.
        1. rocket757 April 15 2020 20: 57 New
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          Just at this moment, in this particular case, I hope for ... the owner of the enterprise! You can’t stop the enterprise, because then you have to start it .... for several months! Continuous production cycle, however. One questionable, the product is exported .... but so far the export is in full swing. We are working.
          Here are some friends who are almost out! I'm worried about them.
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          Not faith. Illusion arose in people. I still could not understand what happened to the people in my small village. Year silence stood. It’s as if everyone had died, and ghosts sneak up on the steps of the porch on tiptoe. Only the quiet rustling of the soles was heard. And the silence in the streets. And then it broke through - after the announcement of self-isolation. Music, laughter, TVs started working, young people from evening to morning on the playground, people are running at a fast pace for groceries, those who still have work left work. In a word, life began to boil. Only pensioners crowed in their apartments, and even then not all ...
          And then it dawned on me. After Putin was self-isolating, and the bureaucratic leadership in the person of Sobyanin and Mishustin clinched in a struggle for political influence, after the crackling phrases about supporting the people and the various legislative body movements contradicting one another turned out to be a collection of dummies, let the people at a subconscious level I realized that all power was self-isolated from him, all power in its entirety, the country was abandoned, it was a draw, understand? Draw! And the people picked it up, brought it back to itself and lived in it with their full-blooded life, separate from the life of the state. Despite poverty, gloomy material prospects, threats of reprisal for non-observance of self-isolation norms, despite the deadly oppression of the coronavirus. Everyone knows everything, everyone understands everything, but there is no way to interrupt the taste of liberation from the state parasitizing on you. Short-term illusion of freedom.
          1. Irokez April 15 2020 21: 54 New
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            but the taste of liberation from the state parasitizing on you cannot be interrupted by anything

            You probably made a little mistake. The state is an association of people in a certain territory with certain conditions of existence, and the state and people interact with each other and the state (as you write) cannot parasitize people (but people by the way can). Simply, many people believe that the state owes them everything, and they do not owe anything to the state, but this is fundamentally wrong.
            1. depressant April 15 2020 22: 37 New
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              Yes, you know what the matter is, a colleague of Irokez ...
              Firstly, our historical time is not very successful - the era of transition to new technologies, the use of which leads to an excess of labor, which simply has nowhere to go. And you need to feed - do not destroy it. This was at the beginning of the last century - from horses were transferred to cars, from trains - to planes. Everyone could master the car, old women drove them! There were other new factory and agricultural technologies, the distribution areas of which were able to expand. The seemingly superfluous workforce quickly found application. Nevertheless, technological breakdown with the need for markets for new products led to two terrible wars. Now the situation is worse. New technologies require very little labor to produce an unlimited number of products. Which few people can buy due to lack of money, because in the new production it is superfluous.
              I watched a very large number of videos telling about how and with what speed new techniques, gadgets and machine tools work in construction, in the production of means of production, and household items - this is a fairy tale! And it will reach us soon. So the mass of people will be superfluous. It would seem that let people feed themselves at the expense of small and medium-sized businesses.
              But here is a look from the other side. Our government does not want to give this opportunity to the people, it crushes small and medium-sized businesses, so as not to grow up to large with a claim to economic and political power, and even not to compete with politically inert, therefore convenient foreign investors. For these reasons, our state itself has separated itself from the people. The interests of the bulk of the population are not its interests. We are superfluous in its coordinates both as redundant manpower in the new technological era and as an internal political competitor.
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                Well, I don’t agree with you. Everyone will have their own way of thinking, but how the new world order will change (it’s just changing) and you will see what the country needs, and there will also be a shortage.
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                  Colleague, I agree)) Time will put everything in its place))
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              Quote: Irokez
              Quote: depressant
              but the taste of liberation from the state parasitizing on you cannot be interrupted by anything

              You probably made a little mistake. The state is an association of people in a certain territory with certain conditions of existence, and the state and people interact with each other and the state (as you write) cannot parasitize people (but people by the way can). Simply, many people believe that the state owes them everything, and they do not owe anything to the state, but this is fundamentally wrong.

              But what about - * Social state * ??? ; Authorities - delegated by the People powers to manage the state, and on the content of the same People ???
              In our case, this is UTOPIA! Alas...
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          just believe and do not have illusions and expectations of your imagination because they are usually deceptive.

          But what is there to imagine if in the year 2008 something similar happened. Personally, I was asked to write in a labor qidul about work in a non-existent enterprise. And not just me.
          1. Irokez April 15 2020 22: 24 New
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            Somewhere at the same time, I, too, was pinned a little with labor. Well, it was insulting, and then he spat on this insult because it was in the past and began to live in the present and the future and you know life really became brighter and more beautiful without looking back and insults to the past. Live positively and everything will be fine (I found out). )))
  • Sergej1972 April 16 2020 05: 11 New
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    If you delve into the Internet, you can find. For now, I’ll say from memory that small and medium-sized businesses provide about 20% of GDP. Moreover, the share of collected taxes is much less. And if you take people, then about a fourth of the able-bodied. But the trick is that medium and small businesses often summarize, and this is not exactly the same thing. Medium-sized businesses do better. On the other hand, we also have micro-business and self-employed, which are not related to small business. But in general, the share of small (without medium) business should not be exaggerated. Moreover, it is fragmented. Small and medium-sized businesses have few common interests with large businesses. There is no particular solidarity between medium and small businesses. Yes, and inside is not enough: it is not particularly observed about business. They do not have normal associations. For the most part, workers do not feel a sense of solidarity with the owners, are not going to enter their position, and owners often throw workers. I honestly do not understand those people who are going to work for small private owners. If only from hopelessness.
  • faterdom April 15 2020 18: 03 New
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    Well, this is not only moral support. Belatedly, of course, but who dismissed his workers before April XNUMX is in flight.
    By the way, the May pension came today ... Why? So in advance (and then for 10, not 15 days, it happened just before the New Year).
    Maybe it’s better to shame the shortening factor? After all, he stupidly annually cancels the norms of the Law!
    After all, once the lies coming from there must be stopped from heaven. And it seems, not gradually.
    1. Pytnik April 15 2020 18: 06 New
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      Also very surprised today, but ... then until June 1 we will save request
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      Putin recently said retirees will receive numbers on April 20.
      1. Pytnik April 15 2020 18: 35 New
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        Dialog above on military pension
    3. Lannan Shi April 15 2020 18: 19 New
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      Quote: faterdom
      Well, this is not only moral support. Belatedly, of course, but who dismissed his workers before April XNUMX is in flight.

      Laponka ... The cleaning lady cost me about 25 approximately. Compensation 12. In total, in order to receive this subsidy I have to get another 13 thousand somewhere. More precisely, I get 25, half of which will be returned to me later. You have funny ideas about "in flight". By the way, do not tell me where to get these same 25 thousand, with the ban on making money?
  • prior April 15 2020 18: 06 New
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    Cry of self-insulated
    This is not self-isolation - this is house arrest without legal grounds.
    Ausweis to move around the city. In the war, such restrictions were set only by the Nazis.
    With regard to Putin’s support, it’s not people who support again, they support companies, capitalists.
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      1. Kronos April 15 2020 18: 22 New
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        Correct comparison, because there is no legal emergency
    2. Aleksey Aleksandrovich April 15 2020 18: 17 New
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      Who about what, and lousy about the bath. Why is this thoughtless deceitful, sucked-out comparison with the Nazis? Cerebral liberty? Be healed and shut up, you will pass for the clever.
    3. Vadim237 April 15 2020 18: 17 New
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      Finish the plump.
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        Finish plump


        What for?
  • Sayan April 15 2020 18: 07 New
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    It would be better if the lards seized from two colonels for a pair of lyamas were driven to the entire population of the country, it would be more useful. And now they’ll divorce the triomodia, that hell and those pennies who really need it, will not receive
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      NKT April 15 2020 18: 16 New
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      Something you have swung widely to billions of colonels. Speak to each of a couple of millions?
      1. Sayan April 15 2020 18: 23 New
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        Quote: NKT
        Something you have swung widely to billions of colonels. Speak to each of a couple of millions?

        I understand that science fiction is in a bookstore, but it would be fair, especially since there are only about one hundred and fifty million people in the country, it will even be imperceptible, given the amount, more precisely, the tons of money withdrawn from only two
      2. Overlock April 15 2020 18: 33 New
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        Quote: NKT
        Something you have swung widely to billions of colonels. Speak to each of a couple of millions?

        laughing
    2. Vadim237 April 15 2020 18: 24 New
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      If you customize each of the 147 million pair of lyamas, it will take 294 trillion rubles, this is how you expose 33000 colonels Zakharchenko then divide it among all.
      1. Sayan April 15 2020 18: 28 New
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        Quote: Vadim237
        If you customize each of the 147 million pair of lyamas, it will take 294 trillion rubles, this is how you expose 33000 colonels Zakharchenko then divide it among all.

        Something you have with math is bad
        1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 18: 30 New
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          I’m doing fine with her. It’s your problem. Can’t you get enough sleep?
          1. Sayan April 15 2020 18: 38 New
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            Quote: Vadim237
            I’m doing fine with her. It’s your problem. Can’t you get enough sleep?

            It’s bad, very bad, as if you multiplied 147 million by two, even Perelman didn’t get 294 trillion, but you’ve got a genius wassat
            1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 18: 44 New
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              So you still do not know how to read - multiplied by 2 million Sami wrote "To each a couple of lamas"
              1. sabakina April 15 2020 21: 11 New
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                In general, it will turn out 294 million. repeat
                1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 21: 40 New
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                  You studied at the same school - 147000000 times 2000000.
                  1. sabakina April 15 2020 21: 44 New
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                    If you transfer 2 million rubles to the card, can you withdraw two trillion from it? laughing
                    1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 22: 17 New
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                      The question is not clear - I wrote that if everyone allocates 2 million each, then for all 147 million 294 trillion rubles will be needed. But I realized that everything is bad with elementary mathematics, old age is not a joy - insanity is progressing.
    3. Prjanik April 15 2020 18: 28 New
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      Just giving out money is stupid. First of all, it is necessary to keep the enterprises and working people afloat, pay salaries so that it is more profitable to keep jobs and the economy will not fall. Compare with the United States, where they simply raised unemployment benefits, it is more profitable for people to quit and receive benefits, as a result of which unemployment has grown significantly.
      1. Courier April 15 2020 19: 31 New
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        Just in the USA they just give out money.
        1. Prjanik April 15 2020 19: 35 New
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          I wrote that.
    4. bk316 April 15 2020 22: 54 New
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      It would be better if the Lards seized from two colonels for a pair of Lyam suns

      As far as I remember there were 7 yards
      THIS IS THE WHOLE POPULATION ON 50 RUBLES FIFTY RUBLES ARE NOT MILLIONS. But he got his pluses. am
  • Dmitry Potapov April 15 2020 18: 11 New
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    As Kisa Vorobyaninov would say “Yes!”, Where with such a crazy amount to run then !? Vladimir Vladimirovich, you are generally adequate!
  • Amateur April 15 2020 18: 11 New
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    And the guarantor didn’t normalize the rollback to officials who will determine the staff list and other?
    Reindeer herder Sobyanin today in Moscow made 9-point traffic jams. Probably in order for people to share their viruses faster. Or maybe he did not know how many millions of people live and work in the capital. Probably out of habit, I thought that there was a tundra around Moscow.
    1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 18: 28 New
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      In Moscow, only 25% of the population now goes to work, the rest sit at home working in a remote place or in summer cottages.
      1. Amateur April 15 2020 18: 50 New
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        In Moscow, only 25% of the population now goes to work,

        Do you think I'm joking about traffic jams?
      2. Overlock April 15 2020 19: 08 New
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        Quote: Vadim237
        In Moscow, only 25% of the population now goes to work,

        What work with such organization of checks of electronic passes

        "they wanted the best, but it turned out - as always"
        But what about the social distance of 1.5-2 meters?
        1. yfast April 15 2020 19: 41 New
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          Well, the metro, well, apparently, they decided that the Muscovites would get infected faster, faster and get sick. Many again will correct housing at the expense of the elderly. And the state has to pay less pensions. Solid pluses.
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          This allotment distance turned out to be greater instead of two four meters according to recent experiments by scientists and epidemiologists.
        3. sabakina April 15 2020 21: 18 New
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          Quote: Overlock
          "they wanted the best, but it turned out - as always"
          But what about the social distance of 1.5-2 meters?

          How how? Like in the movie "This Fun Planet"!
    2. Overlock April 15 2020 18: 30 New
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      Reindeer herder Sobyanin today in Moscow made 9-point traffic jams.

      what to take from a reindeer herder!
  • samarin1969 April 15 2020 18: 15 New
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    A minimum monthly wage is better than nothing. Moreover, it is only support for enterprises. Maybe "socially responsible businessmen" will also throw something. ..
    The Chichikovs are stepping up, catching money under payroll sheets.
  • Thrifty April 15 2020 18: 17 New
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    And what prevents to pay a minimum of 25000 rubles? The amount is not a fountain, but not 12500, and why the authorities do not punish traders who sharply inflated the prices of all types of products? As always, half-hearted decisions that will be fulfilled through the sleeves!
    1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 18: 33 New
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      And what kind of products have your prices skyrocketed?
      1. Thrifty April 15 2020 20: 52 New
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        Vadim237 - ON EVERYTHING! !!! Prices are rising every day! It feels like the end of the world this week, and we are not in the know, unlike the traders! !!!!!!
      2. evgen1221 April 16 2020 13: 16 New
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        What goods (products) have prices taken? (Quote from Vadim237) I am reporting Alai Krai, the village of Kamen on Ob (a fly without enterprises), an antiseptic a month ago cost 50-70r for 250g, today 16.April 2020 costs 650r already at a cost of 20r . And so no, nothing has risen in price, nothing at all (sarcasm, everything has risen in price by 15%, at least with us) At the same time, I remind you that 12500 is considered to be sooooo much fat salary, on average 7500 are paid. Live rejoice called
    2. bk316 April 15 2020 22: 57 New
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      And what prevents to pay a minimum of 25000 rubles?

      Yes, nothing. If something is necessary from the authorities, FULL CREDIT VACATION. Everything else is from the evil one.
    3. Sergej1972 April 16 2020 05: 25 New
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      So these traders must pay their employees. I do not see a sharp inflation of prices. In Magnets and Pyaterochka growth, if any, is moderate. Excluding lemons. Although, I will tell you a secret, grapefruits or oranges are much more useful.
  • impostor April 15 2020 18: 19 New
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    Strange thing ... a military pension accrued in the middle of the month. What would that mean? Will martial law be imposed in May due to virus aggression and military mob mobilization? request
    1. pilot69 April 15 2020 18: 25 New
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      Ofigel himself, but in May what will I live on?
      1. impostor April 15 2020 18: 29 New
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        Kamrad, maybe this is an additional payment to support the service people? Although this can not be in principle.
        1. pilot69 April 15 2020 18: 30 New
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          It is doubtful how not to save, money is spreading. A reasonable question arises - what will happen in May?
          1. Dikson April 15 2020 18: 50 New
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            About these payments, it was casually noticed "for April and May" ... you are not asking the right question .. Until June it means everyone will be sitting .. but in June ... something will just be .. The trend is strange in different countries .. The same small but proud Qatar (represented by Qatar Airways) says that before September 1 it’s not going to sell or change tickets for its flights .. take it with money, they say .. with an extra charge for inconvenience ..
            1. New Year day April 15 2020 19: 42 New
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              The same small but proud Qatar (represented by Qatar Airways) says that it’s not going to sell or change tickets for its flights until September 1

              why do we need Qatar! Georgia, small and devoid of oil and gas, decided to cover the population’s expenses for light, gas, water and garbage in March, April and May as part of economic assistance to combat the spread of new coronavirus infection.
              1. Dikson April 15 2020 20: 42 New
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                Silvestr, I meant no longer a certain country, but the fact that you can’t see the picture improvement until SEPTEMBER .. You yourself are from medicine .. it’s clear that the terms of obscure “self-isolation” and quite real trash will be shifted more than once .. there are no more memories of the 14-day "vacation" ..
            2. Vadim237 April 15 2020 20: 24 New
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              Borders around the world are likely to be closed before the end of the year, except for flights of special flights, and Russia is no exception since the vaccine will be made and tested only by November, so that the entire tourism business around the world this year will be covered with a large copper basin.
      2. Vadim237 April 15 2020 18: 34 New
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        Also get in the middle of the month.
        1. pilot69 April 15 2020 18: 37 New
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          Well, that’s okay, but I have long been sworn by the government to play gambling. When it, the state, takes a step towards me, I personally am alarmed.
          1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 18: 45 New
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            Consider this your thirteenth pension.
            1. pilot69 April 15 2020 18: 48 New
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              Yes, I would love to. The trouble is that others consider my pension. I would be the 14th and 15th, stop me laughing
            2. pilot69 April 15 2020 18: 50 New
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              But the Chechen nifig did not raise. Yes, and those tears
              1. sabakina April 15 2020 21: 26 New
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                The namesake, and you "lose" the May pension until May. I understand it is difficult. But let's recall the experience of our recent ancestors ... wink
      3. Thrifty April 15 2020 20: 53 New
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        Pilot 69 is it really life? This is her imitation! !!
  • faterdom April 15 2020 18: 23 New
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    By the way, do not tell me where to get these same 13 thousand, with the ban on making money?

    I will not tell you, you know better in the places ... And not about that at all. And the fact that there is a qualitative difference between “not giving anything” and 12 thousand. I find it difficult to say how much is more - it is impossible to divide by "zero".
    I recall sometimes "Brother-2" ...
    -There were still interest ...
    -So looks like a brother ... (thoughtfully)
  • pilot69 April 15 2020 18: 24 New
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    As I understand it, 10 percent did not fit into the market? Optimistic, previously there were other numbers. In my stupidity, we must fight for everyone.
    1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 18: 35 New
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      What a coincidence the virus also kills 10% of the infected.
  • anjey April 15 2020 18: 33 New
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    At least a direct payment of 10 thousand to each Russian to pay for a communal apartment and not save debts during the pandemic, and that would be thanks, but to distribute to commerce like a black hole.
    1. Alf
      Alf April 15 2020 19: 20 New
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      Quote: anjey
      At least a direct payment of 10 thousand to each Russian to pay for a communal apartment and not save debts during the pandemic, and that would be thanks, but to distribute to commerce like a black hole.

      It would be much easier to provide housing and communal services receipts for social security and the state would pay for them. And people would be calm and companies would be without debt. But I recall the term "kudrinomika" ...
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        Quote: Alf
        Quote: anjey
        At least a direct payment of 10 thousand to each Russian to pay for a communal apartment and not save debts during the pandemic, and that would be thanks, but to distribute to commerce like a black hole.

        It would be much easier to provide housing and communal services receipts for social security and the state would pay for them. And people would be calm and companies would be without debt. But I recall the term "kudrinomika" ...

        So you don’t lie right away .. well, if you are direct to people .. but if you are a merchant, you can also get a rollback ..
  • anjey April 15 2020 18: 37 New
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    Direct assistance of 15-20 thousand to every Russian, to a communal apartment, so as not to save up debts during a pandemic, but give it to businessmen like a black hole, will be abused
    1. anjey April 15 2020 18: 52 New
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      Ten seemed completely frivolous laughing
    2. NKT
      NKT April 15 2020 18: 56 New
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      Everyone does not need, but only pensioners and families with low incomes. It is better to give really needy 60tr than three not really needy 20tr.
      1. anjey April 15 2020 20: 00 New
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        Yes, a bird is better in the hands than a crane in the sky laughing
  • impostor April 15 2020 18: 41 New
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    In fairness, you just need to cancel the reduction factor from the 2012 government and fully implement the Decree! am
  • arhitroll April 15 2020 18: 45 New
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    But what about microbusiness ...
  • Old partisan April 15 2020 18: 50 New
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    And tomorrow, Nabiulin will come forward and say a hundred by the central bank such expenses are unplanned.
  • Awaz April 15 2020 18: 55 New
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    Based on what happened, such a salary for the next six months should be received by all representatives of the highest authorities. I'm talking about 12 thousand
    And so, it begins to reach the authorities that if you don’t really start giving out money to the population, in the current situation, the economy will really collapse.
    But 12 thousand is nothing. Although it would be possible to get by with such an amount already immediately preemptively for April, after Putin's first speech, now, gentlemen, it’s too late. And in the end, you still have to pay more. Or will be.
    How much power we really do not live in the real world ...
    And of course, phrases about the division into victims and non-victims are surprising ...
    At the moment I work in the furniture industry in a medium-sized private office that works as honestly and white-handedly as possible. This industry is still not recognized as affected, but neither suppliers nor sales salons work, orders are not accepted. We are even allowed to work, but some of the components are not available due to the fact that they are being purchased in China and Italy, and there is also no way to sell the products.
    And so all is well beautiful Marquise. Local authorities generally do not want to help, or at least defend the interests of a company registered at its location without any offshore or Moscow.
    Today is salary day. Looks like they gathered what they could, gave crumbs.,
    1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 19: 01 New
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      It was possible to give everyone 30000 each - only this would require more than 4 trillion rubles. In their right mind, no one will be letting out that kind of money right now, because the economic crisis is ahead and how many Russia and the whole world will get out of it will be unknown.
      1. Kronos April 15 2020 19: 05 New
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        So what is a very real amount
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        Quote: Vadim237
        It was possible to give everyone 30000 each - only this would require more than 4 trillion rubles.

        and what-stunned stash of the NWF? How do you allocate money for casinos and boarders, but not enough for people?
        1. impostor April 15 2020 19: 35 New
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          Still, the bear was Winnie the Pooh ...
          But honey is a very tricky thing -
          Every thing is either there or not.
          And honey - I don’t understand what the secret is -
          If there is honey, then it is not there right away ...
        2. Vadim237 April 15 2020 20: 07 New
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          If they give out it will become poor by 40% and this is only in one month.
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          Quote: Overlock
          How do you allocate money for casinos and boarders, but not enough for people?

          "That’s gas, and that’s the children." Just the opposite.
      3. UserGun April 15 2020 21: 01 New
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        Quote: Vadim237
        In their right mind, no one will be letting out that kind of money right now, because the economic crisis is ahead and how many Russia and the whole world will get out of it will be unknown.


        Huh! Pagan Yankees issued EVERYONE! Carl, who has income less 75000 paganyh $ per year, for 1200$ and 500 children under 17 years old))) Of course, of course! They are crazy !!! But our Comanche leaders are so perspicacious and generous that even a tear breaks through)))

        Quote: Vadim237
        It was possible to give everyone 30000 each - only this would require more than 4 trillion rubles


        But only in the NWF 19 trillion. wooden, i.e. your sum of all that is a percentage of 20 from the stash that was saved up, according to the storytellers, for just such a case))) Vague doubts creep in, is there really this NWF ?!
        1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 21: 12 New
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          Their printing press is working at full capacity - and unlike our money in the National Welfare Fund, their papers are not provided with anything like a puffy economy with 22 trillion debts. And what is $ 1200 in the United States? There, one treatment for a coronovirus in 20000 will cost if not more.
          1. UserGun April 15 2020 21: 45 New
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            Hee hee! So their economy is puffed, even worse than Portugal, which our nullified storyteller was catching up with, catching up, spat with anger and decided to immediately move Germany ?! ))) After which he announced, publicly, that we are generally ahead of the rest with 70 percent of the middle class who have an immense amount of money as much as 17000 rubles))) Mdya .... but we have such devices, sorry NWF, but we will not show them to you and never will)))
      4. Alf
        Alf April 15 2020 21: 18 New
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        Quote: Vadim237
        It was possible to give everyone 30000 each - only this would require more than 4 trillion rubles. In their right mind, no one will be letting out that kind of money right now, because the economic crisis is ahead and how many Russia and the whole world will get out of it will be unknown.

        And where will these 4 trillion people go? In stocking or something to buy, pay? This money will flow back into the economy.
        1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 21: 44 New
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          Maybe they’ll put it in a stocking - I will repeat once again how long the crisis will last and when it comes out of it it is unknown. And money may be needed at any moment - the moment will come and the money has already been spent.
          1. Alf
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            Quote: Vadim237
            Maybe they’ll put it in a stocking - I will repeat once again how long the crisis will last and when it comes out of it it is unknown. And money may be needed at any moment - the moment will come and the money has already been spent.

            But for some reason they are not afraid to distribute 12 tons each, although the amount, of course, is not comparable. Something tells me that after receiving 12 pieces, people will pay for the communal apartment and buy not the Maybach, but the grub. And where then will this money return?
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          3. Revival April 16 2020 05: 27 New
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            I understand that, if necessary, the authorities will mobilize only those to whom support has been allocated, well then everything will be fair
      5. Awaz April 16 2020 12: 50 New
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        You see, it is only necessary to distribute to personnel of small and medium-sized businesses who have suffered so much. No need to give out to officials, state employees and employees of large corporations.
        Moreover, it is necessary to give out only to those who work on white, although it is possible to give to those who work on gray schemes at a minimum.
        So, as a result, there is not so much left for the people and the amount, even if you give 30, will not be so disastrous for the budget, moreover, this money will be returned to the budget by the end of the year.
        Yes, and you need to give not 30 ke and stupidly half the salary. (on average it will be no more than 15-20 thousand) with a restriction, say up to 30, if the salary is high. If for such a business, for a couple of months, if Social taxes are to be abolished, then it will be very supportive and the business and the business itself will not be so greedy with ZP
  • Chaldon48 April 15 2020 19: 19 New
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    Prices are likely to jump, pensioners are waiting for starvation in the midst of abundance in prelats?
  • Revival April 15 2020 19: 19 New
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    Again! Foolishness! How small a percentage would fit 1 or 2?
  • Whirlwind April 15 2020 19: 20 New
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    For five years, the United States has been hammering us with economic sanctions, and now the virus has been let in.
    So the hybrid war, if anyone still does not understand, is in full swing ...
    1. Karabin April 15 2020 21: 09 New
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      The US is hammering us with economic sanctions, and now the virus

      And Lenin planted a bomb, and Pechenegs, and Polovtsy ...
    2. Chaldon48 April 15 2020 21: 54 New
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      The USA is hammering with fear the "elite" in the hope that it will do stupid things, and it is glad to try, hammering us.
    3. Mordvin 3 April 15 2020 22: 53 New
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      they also let the virus go.

      It was they who first tested the virus on themselves, and then they launched it to us? belay
      1. Revival April 16 2020 05: 29 New
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        But well, they always do that, it's easy to imagine if a whirlwind in my head
  • akunin April 15 2020 19: 38 New
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    I read comments, I was glad for the optimists (I was very happy.
    from a military unit on a business trip (across the country), to Khabarovsk, a young officer flew (about the fact that they didn’t pay the time and daily subsistence allowance and said I had to borrow money on a plane from Moscow), after arriving home he was offered to be quarantined for two weeks (at his own expense) in Khabarovsk, coronavirus at the place of business trip or to work, the officer decided to go to work (because you want to eat and there’s nothing to live on - remember about the debts on the road) and after 10 days of close contact with his colleagues coronovirus and now the squadron will not fly anywhere, but you are 12 tyr, 19 tyr ...
  • parusnik April 15 2020 19: 50 New
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    One thing is clear, a pandemic and self-isolation will also be in May and June ... Oh, the harvest from the private trader will disappear ... Networkers with their prices will profit ...
    1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 20: 12 New
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      Why is it going to disappear from private traders as it was grown and will continue to be grown - at my two dairy farms, they both bought milk and continue to buy. In the regions, there is simply no such concentration of people as in Moscow, respectively, and there will be a minimum of cases of infection.
    2. Prisoner April 15 2020 20: 51 New
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      And networkers from Mars will probably arrange supplies, because on our ball in all countries the same canoe. hi
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        And now, probably, networkers from Mars also provide supplies - do not carry nonsense.
    3. Mordvin 3 April 15 2020 22: 56 New
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      Oh, the harvest from the private trader will be lost ..

      Summer residents are already digging.
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      In magnets and fives cheaper. On the other hand, in my region in Magnets local products, milk, for example, are also sold.
  • Valter1364 April 15 2020 20: 00 New
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    All these kind and good undertakings in relation to small and medium-sized businesses cause me alarm. In business for almost a quarter century. In addition to rudeness, lawlessness, tax extortion, etc., the authorities did not see anything. I always tried to help the city in case of emergency, veterans, sports organizations, etc. I have never flashed my help. Maybe he wants good, but the real sector can be helped when conditions for development are created for him. When he is not touched by power. One has only to mention the official assistance to business, wait for trouble!
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      What is considered the real sector? In production, the share of small business is scanty, mainly trade and the service sector.
  • alone April 15 2020 20: 18 New
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    As always, Fridge has already begun its triumph over the TV!
    and yet another proof that without a strong domestic policy and economy, a strong foreign policy is a farce hi
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      Alf April 15 2020 21: 21 New
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      Quote: lonely
      without a strong domestic policy and economy, a strong foreign policy is a farce

      Luxurious coat on a naked body.
  • xvot April 15 2020 20: 26 New
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    and the fact that many have one registered employee and a few are unformed and therefore nothing was paid to the budget is normal, forward to the exchange for accounting and receive money
    1. alone April 15 2020 20: 42 New
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      In our country, for example, 50 thousand illegal working people were identified in this way.
  • avdkrd April 15 2020 20: 45 New
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    The impression that a stoned group of comrades is dead is simply mocking the people. They drove home, essentially declaring a curfew without an emergency, introduced total control over the movement of people, halted production, and simply killed the service sector. At the same time, the formal reason does not stand up to criticism, and the measures themselves are effective against the virus only in the minds of propagandists. Do gaps and qr codes protect against viruses, do work shops and the metro prevent the spread of sq? By and large, no one even tries to give the scientific justification of quarantine and isolation itself, except for the media, which simply has nowhere to go.
    Anything but apt is not the cause. Such control is more similar to the actions of the authorities in the state of martial law, the threat of a military coup or God forbid that it is carried out. The penultimate version (and the last one) is very likely against the background of quite serious gestures with the Security Council and Central Bank. This is my opinion, and although it is not at all a fact that it is correct, the main thing is that what is happening has nothing to do with the epidemic, and even less so with the pandemic.
    1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 21: 27 New
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      You probably still cannot enter that self-isolation is needed to smooth out the sharp increase in the number of cases and stretch it in time to reduce the burden on medical facilities and staff - and since 75% are at home, this measure works as it should, namely, it prevents the mass infection with which doctors will not be able to cope. And no one will declare an emergency - as the whole economy will suffer even more from this.
      1. The Siberian barber April 15 2020 23: 56 New
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        The actions of the authorities directly “stimulate” a decrease in the growth of the number of infected!
        One hand prohibits, and the other allows)) Today the Moscow metro is a litmus test of quarantine / self-isolation activities (what a word!)
        Paul of Moscow, in a day, managed to substitute at risk! And after all there is a full name giving this order! And the responsibility will be ?? And will it be adequate to the deed? I doubt it. And this is not going into the economy
        1. xvot April 16 2020 06: 35 New
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          Well, yes, and those who stand in line do not want to stand far from each other, they’ve got direct power and your brains
          1. The Siberian barber April 16 2020 10: 37 New
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            It seems that you have problems with the brains!)) The person who issued this order should have foreseen this situation. And if you didn’t foresee, then obviously it’s sitting in its place)
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            Alf April 16 2020 19: 17 New
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            and those who stand in line do not need to stand far apart

            Estimate the length of that line at a recommended interval of 2 meters. And nobody changed the time of the train stop ...
            1. xvot April 16 2020 20: 04 New
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              however, in the car, the distance between people has not been canceled
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                Alf April 16 2020 20: 10 New
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                Quote: xvot
                however, in the car, the distance between people has not been canceled

                Today I went to the factory and saw an ad- In connection ... a distance of 1,5-2 meters. At work, remembering, neighing all day. I figured that 30 people were traveling with me in a car, which means that the car should be 45-60 meters long. Plus, the guaranteed delivery man C19 conductor was suitable for everyone ..
      2. avdkrd April 16 2020 00: 10 New
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        Quote: Vadim237
        You probably still cannot enter that self-isolation is needed to smooth out the sharp increase in the number of cases and stretch it in time to reduce the burden on medical facilities and staff - and since 75% are at home, this measure works as it should, namely, it prevents the mass infection with which doctors will not be able to cope.

        I can not. Having a brain and able to read official statistics, analyze it and draw conclusions, it will not be able to. Any person, having analyzed the articles and appeals of real virologists and epidemiologists, will also conclude that, apart from officials (genecologists and practitioners), no one justifies the measures introduced and does not even call the situation an epidemic. There are a number of addresses of world-famous epidemiologists to the leaders of nations, with a refutation of the danger from the square and calls to stop the nightmare of the population. Figures of statistics and facts of a nightmare wrapping up (all lethal moves and moves, including non-pulmonary forms are recorded as victims), they speak for artificially panic. It seems to me that under the new law on liability for the dissemination of false information, those who are now fueling panic will be responsible. Must at least.
        Of course, it is useless to call for analysis to those who are not used to thinking and analyzing. Emotions are what the former "experts in Ukraine" and Zhirinovsky can evoke. Both those and these are not credible.
        Once again, the measures taken do not have any factors restricting the spread of the epidemic. From the word at all. Working supermarkets and the metro completely underestimate the idea. The military even now does not use masks and the measures used for personnel have nothing to do with the charter, when acting in the foci of bacteriological infection. The passes do not protect against distribution. Think about how easily this nonsense was accepted by society - obtaining an online pass to leave the city ... Such regulations can only control the movement of citizens, but not the virus, in fact this is the purpose of using the pass system.
        Forgot to think, or maybe never knew how.
        1. Vadim237 April 16 2020 11: 24 New
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          Apparently, you don’t know how to analyze - 75% staying at home is the result of preventing massive infection - millions of people at once. And there’s not any panic - but there’s a cloud of muddy and you breed it with the puffed-up “virologist specialists.” And fines and passes are needed so that all kinds of self-confident and nonsense people create crowds idly around the streets - because we have millions of them because " experts "how long ago you drove into their heads that a new disease is garbage so ordinary Influenza - that's okay, so you can put XXX on all prohibitions. The effect of self-absorbed rams in Russia is more than ever.
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            Alf April 16 2020 19: 21 New
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            Quote: Vadim237
            75% staying at home is already the result of preventing mass infection - millions of people at a time.

            And so many regions have allowed the work of enterprises? In Samara, all large enterprises began to work, after which the number of infected in Samara grew, probably by accident .. And the governor by decree opened beauty salons to the heap, we must think the most necessary office ...
          2. avdkrd April 16 2020 23: 07 New
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            Quote: Vadim237
            Apparently, you don’t know how to analyze - 75% staying at home is the result of preventing massive infection - millions of people at once
  • Petrol cutter April 15 2020 20: 45 New
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    “At the same time, funds will be disbursed based on the amount of 12130 rubles per person, taking into account the staffing of the company (enterprise) at the beginning of April of the current year.”
    Did they check in ?!
    What a twist!.
    And what am I to do with this total amount ?! How to apply it?
    Yes, it's easier to die already, and so that it all ends at last.
    1. alone April 15 2020 20: 50 New
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      Yes, it's easier to die already, and so that it all ends at last.

      Well, let’s end for you, but what about the rest?
      1. Petrol cutter April 15 2020 20: 55 New
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        There is a song like this: a soldier tormented with anguish ... He shot himself ... And nothing more ...
        I recommend to listen.
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      Alf April 15 2020 21: 24 New
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      Quote: Benzorez
      Yes, it's easier to die already, and so that it all ends at last.

      Is there any money for the funeral? The state will not bury for free. As they say, as long as you don’t deposit money, you have no right to give ends.
    3. Vadim237 April 15 2020 21: 28 New
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      It is at least better than zero.
      1. UserGun April 15 2020 21: 55 New
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        Indeed ... what to expect from zeroed, except for the amount tending to zero)))
        1. Vadim237 April 15 2020 22: 22 New
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          Apparently, there will no longer be any nullification of the deadlines for the adoption of an updated constitution pushed indefinitely.
          1. UserGun April 17 2020 08: 15 New
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            Yes, this is no longer interesting to anyone))) In addition to the leader of cranes))) Everyone, after these events, it became clear even to the most idiots processed by propaganda that the myth of the king’s exceptionalism, which has nothing to replace, is just a myth.
            By the way, how’s the buck doing, which you’ve been burying for already natsat ?! ))) And then I look, who bury him, and invests in him)))))))))))
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          Indeed ... what to expect from zeroed, except for the amount tending to zero)))

          Interesting - and how much would suit you personally?
          1. UserGun April 17 2020 08: 34 New
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            Judging by the wet dreams of the leader and his entourage, who had already “overtaken” Portugal and was about to move some kind of numbed Germany from 4th place))) well, at least as in Portugal. 700x80 = 56000 rubles))) No, these are not my notions. This was suggested to us by His Excellency and his entourage. And if you thought so in all seriousness, well, so give us. In all seriousness.
            1. Golovan Jack April 17 2020 08: 38 New
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              Judging by the wet dreams of the leader and his entourage ... 700x80 = 56000 rubles ... This was suggested to us by His Grace and his entourage. And if you thought so in all seriousness, well, so let us ..

              Clearly hear mov. All dosvidos stop
              1. UserGun April 17 2020 08: 42 New
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                Why didn’t you like it ?! ))) The minimum wage of some kind of Portugal ?! ))) By the way, I’m quitting quarantine 200 km from the non-rubber one))) It would be time for you to fall behind from Ukraine, otherwise it froze you all)))
            2. CSKA April 17 2020 12: 34 New
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              Well, at least as in Portugal. 700x80 = 56000 rubles))) No, these are not my notions.

              )))) Do you like to play exchange rates. It’s a pity that the thinker doesn’t work. That with a minimum salary of 700 euros to rent an apartment in Lisbon costs from 300 to several thousand. And for 300 in such conditions it is unlikely to want to live. And this is without housing and communal services which, oh, as in Europe, is not cheap. It turns out at least half zp you will give for an apartment. We have in Krasnodar with s.p. at 56000 you can safely rent an apartment for 12 thousand, that is, only 5 part of the z.p. to spend. And the average in Portugal is 1500 and that would be necessary to rent a normal apartment somewhere around 1000.
              So there is no need to play the exchange rate and about Germany, in your place I would not recall. Have you even been there and know something about her? Communicated with the Germans?
              1. UserGun April 17 2020 12: 49 New
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                Love you exchange rates to play


                Tyuyuyuyuyuyu ..... Read my post carefully))) It's not me playing the exchange rates, it is our fabulous and irreplaceable figure who gave a cry and reported that we are already catching up and surpassing Portugal))) And so we have a standard of living higher than that of the same withered Portugal, and therefore our minimum wage should clearly be no less than the same Portugal. Even in terms of euros to wooden. And if this is not so, then you directly say in the face of our nullified storyteller that he is brazenly lying to all of us in the face.
                1. CSKA April 17 2020 14: 30 New
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                  that we already find ourselves catching up and surpassing Portugal

                  Yes, at least I’ll tell you that you don’t need to play currencies, but the fact that we overtook Portugal or caught up with it is all demagogy. If we take the majority of our and their working population, then I will say that in terms of living we can afford more than the Portuguese. Just like the Germans, many of us buy an apartment on a mortgage and a car on credit, not many Portuguese can afford to buy an apartment on a mortgage.
                  Quote: UserGun
                  therefore, the minimum wage should be clearly no less than Portugal.

                  Yes, we can’t have the same minimum wage as in Portugal if compared in euros, because different prices. Do you know a lot of people who get the minimum wage? Here I have many friends and acquaintances, and the minimum wage from them gets 5 people, but they get 3-4 times more in an envelope, the rest are many times more than the minimum wage and officially.
    4. Sergej1972 April 16 2020 05: 53 New
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      But they will not give them to you in their arms. The state gives the employer 12 thousand for each employee, he must pay the difference between the average salary and these 12 thousand. That is, part of the payroll is removed from the employer.
  • 7,62h54 April 15 2020 21: 02 New
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    So I was hoping to go to work from May 1, but it turns out they are going to renew.
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      Alf April 15 2020 21: 25 New
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      So I was hoping to go to work from May 1,

      So come out on the first of May. The year 2021. In November, the second wave is expected.
      1. Dikson April 15 2020 21: 40 New
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        “In November they are waiting for the second wave” ... as it should be for any seasonal ARVI, yes, Alf?
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          Alf April 15 2020 21: 42 New
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          Quote: Dikson
          “In November they are waiting for the second wave” ... as it should be for any seasonal ARVI, yes, Alf?

          Yes, Eugene, yes ... But that's interesting, the info about November came from China, not from Golikova, and somehow I trust the sons of the Celestial Empire more.
    2. Vadim237 April 15 2020 21: 31 New
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      Two weeks passed, three remained - the fifth week of self-isolation will be decisive and it will show whether growth has passed or not.
  • Petrol cutter April 15 2020 21: 24 New
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    "Laponka ... The government is with us, a handful of men are well over 50, if on average. When men of this age try"
    Sunny, one of my wise comrades used to say this: yesterday they searched for the Truth at work, today we are looking for a new job! ..
    Do you understand the train of thought Kuzenka?! ..
  • arsenks April 15 2020 21: 33 New
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    Yeah, Putin is fabulous ...
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      Alf April 15 2020 21: 44 New
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      Quote: arsenks
      Yeah, Putin is fabulous ...

    2. UserGun April 15 2020 22: 05 New
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      His last epic about the Pechenegs and Polovtsy zealously amused all the people, and probably even Trump)))

  • Valter1364 April 15 2020 22: 12 New
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    Amount of 12130 rubles? I think that the guys from Gazprom, Transneft and Norilsk Nickel have already applied? good
    1. Zaurbek April 15 2020 22: 29 New
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      Ordinary workers quite yes .... other irreplaceable employees on a remote site.
  • Bshkaus April 15 2020 22: 15 New
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    I look at this whole situation and I have a clear feeling that in this case the pandemic and external circumstances are turning Putin on, who makes decisions at least 2-3 weeks later.
    Although it should be the other way around: the head of the nation must twist the situation by taking steps ahead of the 2-3 moves.
    About 12 thousand - from a black sheep even a tuft of wool (in this case, this saying is not an insult to anyone). This means that at the end of March it was necessary to introduce a “strict worker” with passes to the store every three days, to freeze ALL financial transactions and work, except for maintaining life on the principle of “no one owes anything” to the end of quarantine, and all this time , pay each citizen at least 1 minimum wage, in a critical situation (and the coronavirus is a critical situation) is no longer up to fat, they would all sit on cereals for a month.
    During this time, now everything would have been on the decline, and the ans has another “wow, they didn’t even count” with queues in the subway, which in 2 weeks will give their fiery greetings (((
    1. UserGun April 15 2020 22: 31 New
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      In fact, this rather tragic oil painting perfectly showed the ins and outs of the 20-year-old reign of the fabulous nullified. Even war is not necessary. It seems that they are being led by us not at all as indispensable as all duroscopes convince us, and banal people are not at odds with reality. Why so hold on to power if you are so far from the real situation and life of your people?
      1. Bshkaus April 15 2020 23: 28 New
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        Actually this pretty tragic oil painting

        The people still have nothing, he just survived both Stalin and Brezhnev and Gorbachev with Yeltsin. Survive and Putin.
        But Akella (that is, Putin) this time really missed: you can talk as much as you like about whether there is a country worthy to become president in 140ml, or just “He”, but this time something went wrong for “Him” . The usual blitz-krieg will quickly turn everything around until no one understands and understands how it was in the Crimea, and it will no longer be possible to push oneself into the life-long kingdom. The people had a lot of time to think well and think hard.
        Incidentally, “self-isolation” does not color it, when people in the capital begin to bend, Luzhkov also lost his post under similar circumstances.
        But if the people nevertheless vote in the referendum FOR, then within a few months I will leave Russia forever ((((
  • Zaurbek April 15 2020 22: 26 New
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    If then, all officials will not reconsider ... as with the children's allowance.
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  • Bomb April 16 2020 10: 21 New
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    He only offers. Not a single word “I demand”, “I order”, “to fulfill”, “to report”. Self-isolated completely.
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    At the same time, it is not yet clear who and by what criteria will classify the enterprise as a affected industry, and how adequate will be the monitoring of such activities and the targeted allocation of funds.

    Well, now it’s starting, like in a movie: I’ll share too much, I do very well.
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  • KrolikZanuda April 16 2020 21: 53 New
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    Class. And if, according to the legislation and the presidential decree, they sent employees to self-isolation while preserving their wages and it amounts to a large amount?