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Another APU fighter died from a mortar explosion

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In the exercises, a Ukrainian soldier died as a result of a mortar explosion. Another eight people were injured.


This was reported yesterday by the press service of the State Bureau of Investigation of Ukraine.

The incident occurred during exercises at a training ground in the Donetsk region. There were planned mortar fires. In the classroom there was an explosion of a mortar with a caliber of 82 millimeters.

The result was the death of a senior soldier of a special forces company of the special operations detachment. He was 24 years old. The soldier served on a contract basis. Eight more of his colleagues, who were sent to the hospital, suffered.

Now, investigators of the territorial administration of the GBR from Kramatorsk, under the procedural leadership of the military prosecutor’s office of the Donetsk garrison, are conducting a pre-trial investigation. The case was opened under Part 2 of Art. 414 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine, which implies a violation of the rules for the treatment of weapons.


Law enforcement officers examine the scene, interrogate witnesses and participants in the event, conduct investigative experiments.

This is far from the first mortar, from the explosion of which the APU suffered non-combat losses. It is difficult to say whether the reason for this is poor training of military personnel, negligence or poor quality of weapons.
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  1. Karaul73
    Karaul73 April 15 2020 13: 42 New
    +8
    The Hammer Case will continue!
    Well, you can’t let a soldier go to arms without brains. It is impossible.
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 15 2020 13: 45 New
      +9
      and where to get others ??? something to teach?
      1. Thrall
        Thrall April 15 2020 15: 06 New
        +7
        Quote: novel xnumx
        and where to get others ??? something to teach?

        In Ukraine, the mortar should know only the anthem smile
    2. Mastodon
      Mastodon April 15 2020 13: 47 New
      17
      The incident occurred during exercises at a training ground in the Donetsk region.

      The souls of the fallen Soviet soldiers are taking revenge on the Nazis .. How many peaceful villages can be bombarded and zigzagged on the ground with the blood of millions of fallen in the fight against fascist dishonesty ..
      No pity ...
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather April 15 2020 13: 54 New
        +8
        need a massive supply of these Pribluda in vsu.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt April 15 2020 14: 07 New
          11
          Quote: Dead Day
          need a massive supply of these Pribluda in vsu.

          Each mortar, and the war will quickly come down no.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 15 2020 14: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: Sentry73
      Well, you can’t let a soldier go to arms without brains. It is impossible.

      Maybe such weapons can not be allowed to soldiers.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 15 2020 14: 30 New
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Maybe such weapons can not be allowed to soldiers.

        By all accounts, the mortar is still Soviet, not a "remake a la ukropoboronprom", therefore it is unlikely that the "pipe" burst due to some defect.
        And therefore, based on some experience, knowledge and observation, I can assume that either the fact of "double loading" could have taken place, or, again, the miracle worker "Ober Zoldat" dropped a mine into the barrel with a fuse down ...

        This is the Outskirts, everything is harsh with them ...

        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 15 2020 14: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: Insurgent
          This is the Outskirts, everything is harsh with them.

          It really is. But what kind of trouble they have with mortars, or with mortars. We have not even blacks exploded.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent April 15 2020 15: 02 New
            -4
            Quote: tihonmarine
            It really is. But what kind of trouble they have with mortars, or with mortars. We have not even blacks exploded.

            Our Donetsk TV channel "Union" about "Hammer". Ether 2018.

      2. ccsr
        ccsr April 15 2020 17: 50 New
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Maybe such weapons can not be allowed to soldiers.

        Here we must apparently take into account that the soldier was from the Ukrainian special forces, and not from the mortar crew of the artillery unit. Well, the one who conducted the training shooting and trained him was apparently full, if so many people were killed in such a situation. By the way, this once again shows that all the wiseacres who talk about the army in the forum should first think first of all about the training of the military personnel, and not about who has the larger caliber, or the firing range is greater in order to understand the importance of combat training for the army.
    4. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter April 15 2020 14: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Sentry73
      Hammer Case Continue

      This is not "Hammer", the caliber is thinner ... But the number of victims is surprising. The 82nd mortar, sometimes a mine is screwed to the RPG-7 shot ... What was there doing so many people around? Or is it all fake, and just got a response?
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 15 2020 14: 41 New
        -2
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        the number of victims is surprising. The 82nd mortar, mine is sometimes screwed onto an RPG-7 shot ... What did so many people around do?

        yes to the RPG-7 shot engine, through a makeshift adapter.

        The standard calculation of 82mm mortar 5 people. Perhaps since training firing took place, they were attracted some calculations leading fire from one mortar. And just because of the usual carelessness, the "second shift" was not at a safe distance ...
    5. Atlant-1164
      Atlant-1164 April 15 2020 14: 46 New
      10
      If this goes on .. the mortars will become like weapons of mass destruction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      1. siemens7774
        siemens7774 April 15 2020 16: 29 New
        +2
        Atlant-1164, and why no one noticed that they came from the militarists of the MTR, and not ordinary mortals
    6. Prisoner
      Prisoner April 15 2020 17: 37 New
      +1
      Like brainless manufacturers to produce weapons. Although in this case it is difficult to say whether or not it is possible. what
  2. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 15 2020 13: 43 New
    +5
    In the exercises, a Ukrainian soldier died as a result of a mortar explosion. Another eight people were injured.

    Routine already ... request
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 15 2020 13: 45 New
      11
      one mortar and one reptile less ...
      1. Peter is not the first
        Peter is not the first April 15 2020 13: 50 New
        +5
        I hope for everyone in the national battalions, there will be enough Hammer mortars.
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 15 2020 14: 08 New
          +8
          more, more of them in the troops!
      2. Mastodon
        Mastodon April 15 2020 14: 00 New
        +5
        Quote: novel xnumx
        one mortar and one reptile less ...

        That's right, because they are taught to shell peaceful people .. Every day there they are unexpected shellings, and before Easter they are especially trying to hit angry
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 15 2020 14: 09 New
          +8
          that's it! hi
  3. 4ekist
    4ekist April 15 2020 13: 44 New
    +5
    .... is the reason for this the poor training of military personnel, negligence or poor quality weapons? ...

    In the APU, one does not hurt the other.
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 April 15 2020 13: 51 New
      +6
      Quote: 4ekist
      In the APU, one does not hurt the other.

      And even one complements the other.
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 April 15 2020 14: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: 4ekist
      In the APU, one does not hurt the other.

      It helps.
      1. novel66
        novel66 April 15 2020 14: 09 New
        +6
        helps others !!
  4. sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 15 2020 13: 45 New
    +3
    The trouble with these Ukrainian mortars is that you can stay without an army.
    Who, then, will take Crimea, maybe they will hire arbeiters?
    1. 4ekist
      4ekist April 15 2020 13: 48 New
      0
      They want to starve him to death. The hands themselves are short.
  5. Egoza
    Egoza April 15 2020 13: 47 New
    +7
    Once again I am convinced how vital Soviet films were! Remember, in "Wedding in Malinovka" Popandopulo describes the available machine guns ".... this one fumes, this one shakes, and this one walks around, shoots at his own people" (well, something like that) Nothing since then in the gang, oh sorry, APU , hasn't changed!
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 15 2020 14: 11 New
      +7
      gorgeous quote, gorgeous movie ..
  6. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith April 15 2020 13: 49 New
    +6
    The very moment when you want to praise Bandera, well done, self-sawing, make the Earth cleaner good
  7. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 15 2020 13: 50 New
    +5
    And like, sorry. And I do not want to feel sorry .. Damn with him.
    1. DMB 75
      DMB 75 April 15 2020 14: 12 New
      +8
      Here I caught myself thinking that it’s not a pity at all ... There they are dear ..
  8. ccsr
    ccsr April 15 2020 13: 51 New
    -2
    It is difficult to say whether the reason for this is poor training of military personnel, negligence or poor quality weapons.

    We will sympathize with the family and relatives of the deceased - in any case, their grief can not be helped, even if they determine whose fault.
    But recently, here at VO, some figures excitedly talked about the "new" Ukrainian anti-ship missile and how we should be afraid of it. I just want to ask these clever guys - if emergency situations constantly occur with the mortar, then what can we expect from these craftsmen in dealing with more complex equipment, and even more explosives.
    In a word, the Ukrainian military should be kept away from their own weapons - they will be more intact ...
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 15 2020 15: 42 New
      +6
      Quote: ccsr
      We will sympathize with the family and relatives of the deceased

      Do not wait for him to loot ....
      1. novel66
        novel66 April 15 2020 16: 36 New
        +5
        gunners, Zelensky gave the order ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 15 2020 17: 04 New
          +2
          What kind of gunners are these?
          the death of a senior soldier of a special forces detachment of special operations.

          However, the gunners are no better.
          1. novel66
            novel66 April 15 2020 18: 00 New
            +6
            enough for residential areas
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  10. dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 15 2020 14: 04 New
    +2
    An investigative experiment, like any other, should achieve the same results. Otherwise, it is not set correctly, and its results cannot be recognized.
  11. Gardamir
    Gardamir April 15 2020 14: 05 New
    +2
    How? Isn't it from a coronovirus?
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 15 2020 16: 37 New
      +4
      Well, yes, mine who clamped in a pipe?
  12. dvina71
    dvina71 April 15 2020 14: 07 New
    +4
    But I thought ... Mina 82mm ... she doesn’t have such a strong explosive impact .. A total of 9 people are lost. Despite the fact that the mortar is served by two or three .. It turns out that six more soldiers surrounded the mortar in a tight ring and waited for what will happen? Second .. mortar visually intact ..
    Given, then this is a group of specialists .. the same question .., and not an attempt to write off combat losses? It’s one thing when losses are among ordinary warriors .. another when the whole group of special forces MTR fell under the distribution at once?
    and honestly .. it doesn’t look like the place of the explosion .. nothing scattered around the pit .. no pieces of land, no stones .. everything is clean.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins April 15 2020 14: 22 New
      -1
      Is it possible that a mine burst after leaving the barrel? By the way, jokes about the "hammer" are no longer appropriate - in the photo like ours, the Soviet one ...
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 April 15 2020 14: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Is it possible for a mine to burst after leaving the trunk?

        Then the surface around would be cut by fragments .., but this is not visible in the photo ..
        Here is a video of the explosion of MSty ..

        You can see right away ... there was an explosion .. And the characteristic surface of the earth after the explosion also turned the fluff down.
  13. yfast
    yfast April 15 2020 14: 10 New
    +2
    Let them name some other "new" weapon "Sickle". So that he can use the hammer and sickle to scuttle the Bandera army.
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  15. Piramidon
    Piramidon April 15 2020 14: 31 New
    +5
    And what are the letters "DBR" on the man's back, "R" is not superfluous there?
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy April 15 2020 14: 51 New
      +4
      [quote = Piramidon] And what are the letters "DBR" on the man's back, "P" is not superfluous there?
      Look carefully at the frame, the upper left corner. request
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon April 15 2020 14: 54 New
        +3
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Look carefully at the frame, the upper left corner

        Thanks, clarified. And then I thought it was a quote from Lavrov. lol
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy April 15 2020 14: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Piramidon
      And what are the letters "DBR" on the man's back, "R" is not superfluous there?
      Look carefully at the frame, the upper left corner.
  16. demo
    demo April 15 2020 14: 36 New
    +1
    Hedgehogs cried, pricked, but continued to lick the cactus with frenzy.
    This is about the Ukrainian military.
    Could sit yourself calmly. Do not shoot at anyone.
    And alive and healthy, return to your farm as a hero.
    So what?
    Woe to family and friends.
  17. The guard
    The guard April 15 2020 14: 39 New
    0
    during exercises at the training ground in the Donetsk region. There were planned mortar fires.

    Probably trained at the shelling of peaceful villages?
    God punished .. hi
  18. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 15 2020 14: 49 New
    +1
    The case was opened under Part 2 of Art. 414 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine, which implies violations of the rules for handling weapons.
    Well done! To collect the scoundrel in pieces and give it about 10 years. And these are our smaller brothers? I think the monkey is nevertheless closer. repeat
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 15 2020 14: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      And these are our smaller brothers

      Chernobyl vkov them brother. And in general, they say that they came from aliens.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 April 15 2020 15: 00 New
        0
        But what about the ancient tamers of the seas? fellow lol
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon April 15 2020 15: 06 New
          +1
          Quote: Ros 56
          But what about the ancient tamers of the seas? fellow lol

          They flew in with Alpha Centauri with shovels. Didn't you hear? laughing
  19. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 15 2020 14: 59 New
    0
    He is not the first, he is not the last. There are many more Bandera savages.
  20. Ilya098
    Ilya098 April 15 2020 15: 02 New
    +2
    Blown up by a mortar, APU does not change traditions.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 April 15 2020 15: 09 New
      +2
      Constancy, a sign of mastery. negative
  21. Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 April 15 2020 15: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: Sentry73
    The Hammer Case will continue!
    Well, you can’t let a soldier go to arms without brains. It is impossible.


    The result was the death of a senior soldier of the special forces company of the special operations detachment

    Well, if they have such special forces, then what about ordinary APU soldiers?
  22. iouris
    iouris April 15 2020 15: 22 New
    0
    Operational information about the battles ceased to be transmitted. What would that mean?
  23. Maas
    Maas April 15 2020 15: 22 New
    -2
    This is some kind of rock. In Ukraine it is a killer hammer, in Russia it is Kuzya a killer.
  24. vvp2412
    vvp2412 April 15 2020 15: 30 New
    +1
    the fascist is dead - a good day!
  25. Topol M
    Topol M April 15 2020 15: 34 New
    +1
    Sucks that only one hero!
  26. Operator
    Operator April 15 2020 17: 28 New
    0
    Resistance in action - every Bandera’s will have such an end.
  27. Dormidont Evlampievich
    Dormidont Evlampievich April 15 2020 17: 36 New
    +1
    A trifle, but nice
  28. mu1972
    mu1972 April 15 2020 19: 46 New
    0
    natural selection!))
  29. Chever
    Chever April 16 2020 01: 54 New
    +1
    What "sensational and extremely important" news
  30. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 April 16 2020 04: 10 New
    0
    Clearly the teachings - anything can be! but aren't too many killed by mortars!? and this is a contractor, but what about youth ???
  31. Blackbeard
    Blackbeard April 16 2020 21: 25 New
    0
    with such mortars you don’t need enemies