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A message about the situation on board the aircraft carrier of the US Navy, Crozier took the authorities by surprise - material in NI

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The American press continues to actively discuss the incident with the commander (in the American version - with the captain) of the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt. Captain Brett Crozier, learning about the presence of infected sailors on board the aircraft carrier, asked the Pentagon to take urgent measures through the media. They took measures, but in the end, Crozier was dismissed, explaining that he violated the requirements of the charter, reporting on the problems not directly to the authorities, but through journalists.


Various American media comment on the situation, including the famous magazine The National Interest. The material of Thomas Spoer and Dakota Wood says that they do not justify the actions of Crozier. Moreover, in the material there are such words:

In our opinion, the key история, which follows directly from the release of Crozier from command and the subsequent resignation of (acting Secretary of the U.S. Navy) Modley, is the importance of (1) adhering to the protocol in the performance of his duty, especially when increasing his level of authority, and (2) to remain professional as much as possible possible when responding to events, whether during a crisis or during normal peacetime operations.

The author in an NI article says that, probably, Brett Crozier, by his report on the situation on board the aircraft carrier, took the authorities by surprise, disrupting the entire reporting chain.

From the article:

These messages Crozier questioned the status of a leading aircraft carrier in the minds of Americans and potentially hurt the understanding of the combat readiness of the US Navy in the minds of partners and competitors in the Indo-Pacific region.

It is further stated that Thomas Modley himself violated the statutory requirements by taking a sole decision to remove Crozier from the captain’s position.

The article notes that both of these people allowed what they should not have allowed, "especially in such a difficult period."

Posted by NI:

We expect increased attention from Congress and increased sensitivity in the Department of Defense and the Trump administration will help ensure that our armed forces are able to do what we expect from them, even during a pandemic.
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  1. Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 April 15 2020 11: 18 New
    +4
    I understand that Thomas Modley should have agreed with Congress on the decision to remove Crozier from office ???
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 April 15 2020 11: 33 New
      29
      It is doubtful that the captain of the ship, seeing the problem, immediately to the journalists ...
      Rather, he turned to the higher authorities of the Navy, but they waved it off. The situation worsened, then the captain had already addressed through the media. And the admirals now want him, if not to make him extreme, then at least blame him for disclosing the secret.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 15 2020 11: 56 New
        +5
        Quote: Doccor18
        Rather, he turned to the higher authorities of the Navy, but they waved it off.

        What we have, what they have, the system is the same "Find the extreme, punish the innocent, reward the guilty", but then the great generals and admirals will not lose their stars, the whole civil world and the "sidekick" in the block (zone) will watch from joy and admiration "Wah-wah-wah !! What smart, kind these nephews of Uncle Sam." (You can even let go, a mean man's tear of affection).
        1. Mastodon
          Mastodon April 15 2020 12: 18 New
          -2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          What we have, what they have, the system is the same "Find the extreme, punish the innocent, reward the guilty", but then the great generals and admirals will not lose their stars, the whole civil world and the "sidekick" in the block (zone) will watch from joy and admiration "Wah-wah-wah !! What smart, kind these nephews of Uncle Sam." (You can even let go, a mean man's tear of affection).

          In principle, you are right .. Found a switchman!
        2. Marconi41
          Marconi41 April 15 2020 21: 08 New
          +2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          What we have, what they have, the system is the same "Find the extreme, punish the innocent,

          Everything is right! This captain is really guilty. What we have, what the Americans have, the military can’t contact the media directly and this is regulated by the relevant service documents. It was the same with the American bespectacled man landing at the Russian airport. It’s even scary to think that our FSB officer would be in his place. And I personally do not mind this unfortunate captain.
      2. Boratsagdiev
        Boratsagdiev April 15 2020 12: 52 New
        +6
        Captain well done.
        He acted in good faith and in fact.
        It takes care of its subordinates (crew).
        Most likely, these staff "jibes" got him.
        Moreover, in the states there was an unspoken "control center" for the virus - not to panic and pretend that everything is fine (even without taking security measures, from which it spread among them).
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 16 2020 09: 06 New
          0
          Quote: BoratSagdiev
          Captain well done.
          He acted in good faith and in fact.

          In truth, YES, but he is not CAPTAIN.
          1. Boratsagdiev
            Boratsagdiev April 16 2020 12: 27 New
            0
            No, and who ?! belay
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine April 16 2020 12: 52 New
              0
              Quote: BoratSagdiev
              No, and who ?!

              He is an officer and military man.
              1. Boratsagdiev
                Boratsagdiev April 19 2020 20: 29 New
                0
                and who is the captain then? ...
                isn't he ?!
      3. Olgovich
        Olgovich April 15 2020 12: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: Doccor18
        It is doubtful that the captain of the ship, seeing the problem, immediately to the journalists ...
        Rather, he turned to the higher authorities of the Navy, but they waved it off.

        undoubtedly, this: the captain was clearly not a Turak, and he perfectly understood WHAT he faced with this appeal to the media.

        But the situation on the ship got out of control and he took pity on his crew, consciously sacrificing his career

        But now a politician can safely make a career
        1. Marconi41
          Marconi41 April 15 2020 21: 10 New
          -2
          Quote: Olgovich
          But now a politician can safely make a career

          Only a political corpse.
      4. Den717
        Den717 April 15 2020 14: 43 New
        0
        Quote: Doccor18
        Rather, he turned to the higher authorities of the Navy, but they waved it off.

        The sources do not mention the go-ahead. They say that the captain wrote a report to the command outlining the situation. But this report hit the media. Those who leaked it are not told, but in principle the captain is responsible for observing the secrecy regime. And whoever causes the discharge, he is guilty, if not betrayal, then sloppiness. And what else could leak in that case, even if the captain’s correspondence fell into the wrong hands? Withdrawal is reasonable.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 15 2020 14: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Den717
          The sources do not mention the go-ahead.

          The leadership of the US Navy will not allow serious and delicate things in the media, like any self-respecting state. State interests are always higher. But the commander of such a ship is not a boy, and not a finger made. He could not violate the charter, but when the command ignored his reports, he did everything for his crew. He is a sailor and his children’s crew.
          1. Den717
            Den717 April 15 2020 15: 22 New
            0
            Quote: tihonmarine
            He could not violate the charter, but when the command ignored his reports,

            I did not see information about the ignoring by the command of his appeal, but I read
            other: - in violation of the order, the captain sent a report through an unsecured communication channel.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine April 15 2020 15: 54 New
              +2
              Quote: Den717
              other: - in violation of the order, the captain sent a report through an unsecured communication channel.

              Honestly hard to believe. Something here is not clean.
              1. Den717
                Den717 April 15 2020 15: 56 New
                0
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Honestly hard to believe

                Why believe? We'll know soon ... Patience, buddy. However, the mess in the camp of the enemy quite suits me. laughing
          2. Marconi41
            Marconi41 April 15 2020 21: 14 New
            0
            Quote: tihonmarine
            but when the command ignored his reports, he did everything for his crew.

            Not at all. He could bring the ship to base if he wanted, but he preferred to play it safe. Apparently he expected that after contacting the media he would not be touched, but he was mistaken.
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 15 2020 12: 50 New
      0
      No, not that level. In general, positions requiring approval are considered in one of the chambers of Congress in the Senate. The same applies to ratification of treaties. But in financial matters, the House of Representatives has priority.
  2. Teberii
    Teberii April 15 2020 11: 20 New
    +4
    They are not thinking about that, now they need to help people left alone with their problem. And only then write and understand who is to blame.
  3. Terenin
    Terenin April 15 2020 11: 25 New
    10
    This is their theory confirmed ... by Hollywood
    remain as professional as possible when responding to events, whether during a crisis or during normal peacetime operations.
    but, in real practice, we see that
    Brett Crozier, by his message on the state of affairs on board the aircraft carrier, took the authorities by surprise, breaking the entire reporting chain.
    naturally thereby
    questioning the status of a leading aircraft carrier in the minds of Americans and potentially damaging the understanding of the combat readiness of the US Navy in the minds of partners and competitors ...
    eventually
    both of these people made what they should not have allowed, "especially in such a difficult period."
    and if the U.S. Navy is so relaxed, it’s unlikely No.
    increased attention from Congress and increased sensitivity in the Department of Defense and the Trump administration will help ensure that our armed forces are able to do what we expect from them, even during a pandemic
    hi
    1. DenZ
      DenZ April 15 2020 11: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: Terenin
      and if the U.S. Navy is so relaxed, it’s unlikely

      Brilliantly!
  4. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery April 15 2020 11: 26 New
    +5
    The aircraft carrier commander violated his subordination and was fired. Everything is very simple.
    1. Victorio
      Victorio April 15 2020 11: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: Valery Valery
      Aircraft carrier commander violated subordination and was fired. Everything is very simple.

      ===
      true, but the situation is extraordinary. remove from command, and then proceedings. and so more correctly, I think.
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 April 15 2020 11: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: Victorio
        true, but the situation is extraordinary. remove from command, and then proceedings. and so more correctly, I think.

        So that's it, only thinking bosses are absent, apparently. Act strictly according to the instructions.
        1. Romey
          Romey April 15 2020 13: 31 New
          +2
          The situation is extraordinary. Failure to comply is a war crime. Fulfillment of an order that may be criminalized is also a war crime. How to act in such a fork can tell only the conscience and honor of the officer. Captain Crozier made a decision and in my opinion his action deserves respect, since the situation and the fulfillment of the tasks assigned to the ship clearly did not require neglect of the health of personnel.
          1. your1970
            your1970 April 16 2020 09: 32 New
            0
            Quote: romey
            Captain Crozier made a decision and in my opinion his action deserves respect, since the situation and the fulfillment of the tasks assigned to the ship clearly did not require neglect of the health of personnel.

            Do you know his task? !!! Strong...
            Management notification of what is happening on board and incapacitating AIRCRAFT CARRIER- this is obviously secret information (from us and China). Violation of the secrecy regime in any army of the world is punishable.
            Let them rejoice that they did not plant ...

            And yes, the comments are touching - "he is good, the administration is bad, he saved people ..".
            A mirrored situation on our army would cause a stream of indignation of the level "oh he is so and so, he ran to cry at Echo of Moscow ...
            Moreover - from the same commentators
  5. artifact
    artifact April 15 2020 11: 28 New
    +1
    I can’t understand what, the aircraft carrier that comes into each port, and the sailors immediately run up the port whores!? well - the surface fleet has a connection with the world, they can infect with food, but how did the virus get on the submarines?
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 April 15 2020 11: 44 New
      -6
      From this virus will save only the constant wearing of ozk and gas mask. Yesterday, giving an interview, the head physician of Kommunarka, wrapped up in the region, let slip, when asked how the doctors of the clinic are protected, the infected person who passed by and the infection was already at the doctor's side. I hope she made a reservation, but studies around the world show enough microdroplets from the usual breathing of an infected person, it is not necessary to sneeze. Sick all of humanity, develop immunity until the next infection.
      1. Amateur
        Amateur April 15 2020 13: 29 New
        +5
        Chief Physician of Kommunarka,let slip

        The chief physician of Kommunarka, though Protsenko, is Denis. Obviously man.
        Lying is not good! negative
        1. Dikson
          Dikson April 15 2020 13: 40 New
          -1
          The chief doctor in the photo was infected and confirmed the diagnosis .. therefore, in the hospital - acting the head physician is another person. And this subject, by the way, directly violated the most banal rule of an infectious disease specialist - a beard and mustache are SHAVED primarily when wearing respirators .. This is a common truth .. Remember Chinese nurses who were forced to shave almost naked in Wuhan ....
          1. Amateur
            Amateur April 15 2020 14: 16 New
            +3
            Denis Protsenko, the head doctor of the Kommunarka hospital, continues to manage the clinic, despite being isolated due to infection with the coronavirus. He publishes daily reports from the hospital and consults with colleagues.
            (https://yandex.ru/turbo?text=https%3A%2F%2Ftsargrad.tv%2Fnews%2Fzarazhjonnyj-glavvrach-kommunarki-prodolzhaet-rukovodit-iz-izoljacii_247765
        2. Essex62
          Essex62 April 16 2020 11: 10 New
          0
          He was ill and only left, some aunt was a deputy. On the Star, zhurnalyugi Turley at evening daily gatherings. I accidentally eavesdropped and peeped at the video-conference interview. I dominate the Leopard model on a 35m scale, it was not possible to switch the free-hand channel. However, comrades threw stools without understanding. Md i
          Or is it a way to transmit the infection? Do not agree?
      2. bk316
        bk316 April 16 2020 20: 16 New
        +3
        enough microdrops from the usual respiration of the infected, h

        And there is. The most interesting thing is that not every gas mask will help, for example, the standard filter from RPG 67 does not help. And Denis has already recovered. laughing Man what is needed, we have common acquaintances. Special cool. Sharp only, it is amazing how he was appointed chief. Generally not afraid of anyone. He opened a closed forum on the crown, the community howled and in vain because whoever doesn’t need will understand nothing laughing
  6. faterdom
    faterdom April 15 2020 11: 28 New
    +2
    We expect increased attention from Congress and increased sensitivity in the Department of Defense and the Trump administration will help ensure that our armed forces are able to do what we expect from them, even during a pandemic.

    We expect the completion of the Roosevelt crew by members of Congress and the Trump administration.
    Then, after the pandemic, those who survive will be able to discuss something with knowledge of the subject.
  7. mvg
    mvg April 15 2020 11: 31 New
    +3
    Cap is clearly not right if he began to communicate with MO through zhurnalyug-whores. I would also dismiss, with a decrease, and immediately resign, for sowing panic in emergency mode.
  8. Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich April 15 2020 11: 35 New
    +2
    There would still be dysentery would not hurt to run :-)
  9. sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 15 2020 11: 42 New
    +2
    Everything is as old as the world, the captain told the press and the crew saved - guilty, did not report and killed - also guilty.
    No matter what you do, the bosses never answer; there are switchmen for this.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 15 2020 11: 45 New
    +1
    One had to turn to journalists without waiting for the reaction of the command, the second exceeded his official powers, the American media speculate who is guilty of what, and at this time there are 550 infected people on board and the aircraft carrier is left on alert with practically no command. Perhaps it's time to resign and the Minister of Defense, who in words and in relation to other countries is "tough" to the point?
    1. your1970
      your1970 April 16 2020 09: 40 New
      0
      Navy Commander Already Resigned
  11. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 15 2020 11: 48 New
    -1
    Do not dig a hole for another — you will get yourself, signed as a muscular young lady, and even the commander fie disgusted to listen. laughing
  12. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin April 15 2020 11: 53 New
    0
    So you will believe in tales about "The Flying Dutchman" laughing
  13. Avior
    Avior April 15 2020 11: 56 New
    +3
    Captain Brett Crozier, learning about the presence of infected sailors on board the aircraft carrier, asked the Pentagon to take urgent measures through the media. They took measures, but in the end, Crozier was dismissed, explaining that he violated the requirements of the charter, reporting on the problems not directly to the authorities, but through journalists.

    It has long been known that he did not go to the media.
    He wrote a letter to the command, did not report anything to the media.
    But at the same time he leaked about the fact of the letter among the team, from which the journalists learned about the situation.
    He is blamed for this leak.
    As I understand it, he sent the letter not through a secret, but through the usual channels of correspondence with the headquarters, this is the reason for the charges of disclosure.
    1. Dikson
      Dikson April 15 2020 13: 46 New
      +1
      The ship’s documents of all the fleets of the world contain the rules and actions in case of an outbreak of infection on board .. I don’t think that there are no such rules in the US Navy .. The commander of such a ship in the database cannot talk with journalists, guys ... is a fool from the media. Most likely, he did not receive a clear order in response to the implementation of the activities prescribed by the charters .. Purely from the political and career ambitions of the higher authorities .. He had to go on a raid, declare quarantine and wait for the evacuation teams of army doctors .. What is there to discuss ?!
      1. Avior
        Avior April 15 2020 13: 59 New
        0
        Somewhere in the comments I have a link to the original article of the situation, I read it.
        The captain wrote to his superiors that he had a quarantine instruction on the ship, but its actual implementation is impossible in the conditions of the ship.
        The sailors were already removed from the ship, he sought to accelerate this process.
  14. cniza
    cniza April 15 2020 11: 58 New
    +3
    Captain Brett Crozier, learning about the presence of infected sailors on board the aircraft carrier, asked the Pentagon to take urgent measures through the media.


    Something that such a statement is doubtful, most likely there was no action, and then he turned through the media.
    1. askort154
      askort154 April 15 2020 13: 08 New
      +2
      cniza .... Something such a statement is doubtful, most likely there was no action, and then he addressed through the media.

      There are times in life when the direct command does not "hear"
      problems of their subordinates. Someone endures to the end, and someone "explodes".
      As an example, from November 8 to 9, 1975, a "riot" took place on the "Watchdog" BPK in the roadstead of Riga, organized by the captain of the 3rd rank, political officer, Sablin. The third generation sailor. It aired openly with political demands and conditions, which was a natural shock not only for the Navy and Defense Ministry, but for the entire country. There were many misinterpretations and labels hung on him. The truth was never revealed.
      According to the KGB, one thing, colleagues in the navy, and among the "people" - another.
      1. cniza
        cniza April 15 2020 13: 30 New
        +4
        Yes, I know about this case with Sablin, but nothing has become clear ...
  15. Artemy Morozov
    Artemy Morozov April 15 2020 12: 02 New
    0
    Interesting. And how could the Chinese infect carriers? But there she was oh - oh - a very long time. So, Comrade Trump, you are hiding something!
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