Platoshkin. Distribute money to entrepreneurs and celebrate a quarantine rally

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Platoshkin. Distribute money to entrepreneurs and celebrate a quarantine rally

God sees, the author did not even want to touch the figure of Nikolai Platoshkin. Platoshkin has launched such a tumultuous activity in recent months that he has “set up” a noble network of flocks, which, as the flock is supposed to, explode in such a stream of impurities for any criticism of its guru that even the saints can take it out. And in the expression of the seed, the public is not shy. Apparently, they are taking an example from their idol, who sometimes strainedly overtures frankly yard slang. And his performance in Politcafe with a glass of cognac, accompanied by endless antics generally left a lot of questions about the influence of bad habits on the perception of reality and one's own status in this reality, since Platoshkin decided to go into new leaders.

But Platoshkin, continuing to openly politically parasitize on a pandemic that caused a global, and not just an intra-Russian crisis, published on his VKontakte page a notice about the rally (!) With a maximum of 150 people in Novorossiysk on October Square. I agree in a certain egoism, while Platoshkin is surfing the net, clogging up content that is already not suffering from purity, while he is marching around Moscow, where marching are either lazy or truly working, I was not bothered by his political attempts. However, the organization of a potential mass outbreak of the epidemic in the city, to which metropolitan attention does not fall so much, accompanied by doctors, equipment and adequate managerial personnel, could not help but draw my attention.



Populism under the red "gloss"


The media has become so firmly entrenched in the life of each of us that it becomes difficult, almost impossible, to remember how we know such a “familiar” physiognomy. So Platoshkin entered the list of recognizable physiognomies as an “expert”, whom now are like uncut dogs. Having gained recognition on TV, which is a very competent move to start, Nikolai Platoshkin rushed into politics.

Who was he before? In general, it is known. While the country was in a fever for 90 years, Platoshkin worked abroad. 5 years of the “Kozyrev” era in diplomacy, when all of Russia's foreign policy was merged, did not in any way give rise to a desire for resistance in the soul of the future “socialist”. Kozyrev took off from his post in 1996, and in 2019, being in exile in the USA, he criticized Russia and the USSR. It is funny that his former colleague Platoshkin, in the same year of 2019, founded his movement “For New Socialism”.

It is hard to understand what “new socialism” is, because after a couple of vague proposals, Platoshkin, in the process of answering this reasonable question, goes over to the usual tactics of criticizing the authorities. At the same time, he regularly posts Soviet posters, glorifies the achievements of the USSR, flaunts fiercely to defend the Soviet era, even if it comes to quite reasonable criticism. And again, Platoshkin acts very competently, using a kind of packaging gloss of vinaigrette of various kinds of nostalgia for the Union to identify himself, his beloved, in the left wing, which in Russia with her desire for justice has always been sympathetic.


In fact, the founder of the “new socialism” should not dive into such depths as socialist ideology. After all, it was she who brought up people who are capable of going out of the trenches and dugouts in agony, without losing the presence of spirit. So the "new socialist" is forced to hang the same garland of fat carrots as the other opposition, in front of the nose of his flock. And how sweetly and convincingly the speeches of the “new socialist” sound, which continues to attract the satiety of Western countries: look at Germany, look at Sweden, be moved with France, etc. Once again, we are stitched with the image of the “right country” somewhere there. By the way, it was thanks to this Western scarecrow that was advertised in the 80s that part of the Soviet people convinced that it was "paradise" there.

And there is no paradox in the fact that a person who calls himself a “new socialist” constantly draws analogies with capitalist countries. Not. Firstly, you can call yourself anyone. Not a single party came to power on the slogans "poverty in every house, hanged - for every entrance." Secondly, as the author has already pointed out, it is similar to Platoshkin’s death to dive into a socialist ideology, since almost every item of his “program” in socialist society is paradoxical - from a “luxury tax” to a “capital export tax”!

The “short political program” itself, or “minimum program,” as indicated on the official website of the movement, is woven from the most popular demand items. And the nationalization of resources, and the abolition of the Unified State Examination, and the confiscation of the property of embezzlers ... There are, of course, items that simply openly buy a near-by philistine, such as “transferring part of the proceeds from the export of oil and gas to each Russian’s personal account”.

The author honestly searched on the official website of the "new socialists" or the "maximum program", or some practical ways to achieve what is already indicated in the "minimum program." As a result, the author did not find either one or the other. But the author was immediately offered to "become a deputy" or go to the "school of television" of some public television "For New Socialism". Judging by the trend, asking a question about what kind of society is being discussed is pointless.

And above all this, the spirit of the “leader” Platoshkin hovers. And precisely for this reason, he does not reduce the incandescence, so that the flock does not suddenly notice, under the gloss, an ordinary populist who is no different from Navalny. It’s already scary to turn on the kettle so as not to hear a familiar voice. In the fury of political struggle, Platoshkin spoke a lot, a lot. He advocates the priority of international law over national law, although now it is clear to all sane that international law is a tracing-paper of the law of the strong. The "new socialist" demands to give money to small businesses, "like in the USA," under the conditions of a coronavirus. Falling into a hysteria that is included in the populist’s functional as an obligatory item, Platoshkin begins to chop the same mantras as all pro-Western citizens.


Platoshkin cannot do without a close look at the West

And the last pearl of the giant of thought, Platoshkin, was supposed to shake the seemingly socialist flock of "novosocialists". Following the president of the totally capitalist and aggressive US country, Trump, our “socialist” demanded compensation from China ... for the coronavirus. Well, even here Platoshkin cannot be original, he continues to look into the mouth of the Western imperialists. Maybe, after all, he should choose a liberal screen and stop disgracing the socialist idea, to which the author has deep sympathies ...

PR during the plague


And then the coronavirus struck. Against the background of the opposition bestiary, which rushed to catch a bloody hype on a pandemic, like the “doctor” Vasilyeva and her accomplice Navalny, Platoshkin had a great chance not only to distance himself from these citizens, but also to really build up a sane electorate cluster. One had only to support the initiative of self-isolation, which does not exclude criticism of the authorities for sluggishness ... It was possible to publicly, albeit crafty, abandon political disagreements in order to save the lives of citizens, which would be respected ... It was possible to collect help ... A lot of “could”. But the emptiness of the populist inside Platoshkin prevailed. And Ostap suffered ...

The situation with the coronavirus in Novorossiysk, as well as along the entire Black Sea coast, is complicated. In Tuapse, authorities even placed anti-tank hedgehogs at the entrance to the city due to an outbreak. Two ladies who returned from abroad, before talking to doctors about their poor health, managed to talk with a dozen people. As a result, the number of hospitalized has increased dramatically. The city was closed in a very radical way.


Not better in Novorossiysk. A woman who died in the city from a coronavirus was infected from her husband, who also recently returned from blessed other countries. The woman also managed to talk with many citizens. Only on April 1 she turned to a private clinic for help, where she was diagnosed with pneumonia, and was admitted to the state infectious diseases hospital on April 8th.

And against this backdrop, Platoshkin publishes a notice of the rally on his VKontakte page. At the same time, the rally “For New Socialism” is not the organizer of the rally, at least it is not mentioned. As stated in the notification, the rally "For New Socialism" and the flags of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation will be used at the rally. Moreover, by sending this notification to the official authorities, the organizers (or Platoshkin himself) managed to cover up all their data when publishing to the public. Well, the jammed phone and the address of the organizers do not raise questions, but the names and surnames ... What is it? From the series “I will give you parabellum, we will retreat to the mountains” ...

And it’s good if everything ends with the banal “two hundred rubles cannot save the giant of thought”, but alas.
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  1. -25
    April 16 2020 15: 09
    I didn’t like much before, I don’t like it even more now .... but, now we are just at that crossing, changing horses on which is dangerous for all of us!
    It is necessary to overcome this crossing, and then ......
    1. +25
      April 16 2020 15: 24
      And then another 20 years ...
      1. -11
        April 16 2020 15: 35
        It all depends on the people, citizens of this country.
        They can, they can’t ... or rather, can we get together and ....
        The question is to no one and to everyone at once.
        1. +38
          April 16 2020 15: 47
          It seems that we are crossing the river not across the river. So, if you do not change the horses at the crossing, then those crossing the river will stupidly die of either starvation or old age, because Russia has the longest rivers in the world, and you can cross along them, and even against the stream, for centuries.
          For the horses. Without clinking glasses drinks
          1. 0
            April 16 2020 17: 40
            Your untruth - ours are only in the second five))) Row and row ...
        2. +4
          April 16 2020 16: 45
          Quote: rocket757
          The question is to no one and to everyone at once.

          I realized that they don’t even want to listen.
          1. +1
            April 16 2020 17: 08
            Well yes. They have a new sect as if suddenly Suddenly.
            Although what suddenly, merged in ... a single impulse, Putin should be! Together. And if you think about it, why now? And then, GOALS, those who are in a single impulse are DIFFERENT! Sometimes it turns out to destroy such things, but to BUILD a new one when "his comrades-in-arms see him differently." It's like, who did it and when did it work? Only those who are clearly more, he is ready and united! This is the basics of political struggle, you can read it in any textbook.
            They don’t want to listen to a simple warning that NOW, THIS IS NOT TIME. with us, yes all over the world A GREAT TROUBLE! It is one thing to finish, and then take on another! Otherwise, the trouble will be much greater.
            You just need to learn history carefully, and not skip such important lessons.
            1. +4
              April 16 2020 17: 26
              Quote: rocket757
              And if you think about it, why now?

              Because they received from the owners such an instruction "Only now!"
              1. -3
                April 16 2020 17: 40
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Quote: rocket757
                And if you think about it, why now?

                Because they received from the owners such an instruction "Only now!"

                The go-ahead was and BABOSIKI threw! The printing press is working, but I must have tried some of these.
                I'm not trying for the current government, I just need to understand NOW IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!
                1. 0
                  April 17 2020 21: 38
                  No need to lie, I don’t get any babosiks from anyone. And a 20-year crossing does not suit me, especially since I can’t see the end of this crossing. For 20 years, Stalin rebuffed a powerful state at an unprecedented pace until now, and these flounder on the spot, more precisely at the crossing. And what kind of crossing is this, if in 20 years they have not even reached the middle of this crossing?
                  1. -2
                    April 17 2020 23: 12
                    Actually, the conversation is not about waiting for a long, long time, there is no need to interfere with an EPISODE with a pandemic, it’s even according to the worst forecasts, it will end by the end of the year, anyway. True, then get out of the train, in which the economies find themselves, but this is no longer an epidemic!
                    Most importantly, as they themselves put it, they waited 20 years, i.e. they simply chewed, namely right now, when
                    and so hr r rfigovo, resolutely rushed up to power !!!
                    We saw those who, when it was necessary to work hard, create a close-knit group / party / unification of comrades / associates and attract masses of people to our side, neither achieved anything, but now, in the wake of universal fear, we wanted everything at once .. .
                    The only thing that is justified now is to help people survive the disaster, or at least DO NOT disturb those who do it! And this is just the important thing with which it will be possible later to go out to the people, this is the act of the PATRIOTS of their country, this is the act of the CREATORS!
                    I, Platoshkin was normal, I considered him a promising politician of exactly the direction that attracts me exactly ... now there is disappointment, he does not look like the CREATOR, DANKO!
                    With his current attitude to events, he loses all sorts of prospects for the future! And they did it themselves.
                    That's all, a simple chain of events!
                    The authorities will undoubtedly cope with their task, they have already gathered and tuned in for it! Not without losses, the more the population will suffer, but the victory will write off a lot! And then why should Platoshkin and other "saviors" go to the people? With a statement that they would have done better !!! But these are just words, and they lose to real deeds, even those done with big flaws! That is life.
                    PS those who are for the revival of a great country do not receive anything from anyone, but among those who have just started buzzing, there are plenty of them!
                  2. -2
                    April 18 2020 04: 12
                    And to remind you at what price everything is cut back? Can food rations remind you of norms? So let's work the same way, give all the money to people's income and go on foot .. What’s bad? Nonsense did not break the rebel. I remember those in '91. It is a pity they were bludgeoned with batons, it was necessary with shoulder blades, as in Tbilisi. Maybe a lot of scares could be avoided in the FUTURE. And hundreds of thousands of people would not die in the timelessness of the 90s.
                    1. +1
                      April 18 2020 06: 20
                      Quote: tracer
                      And to remind you at what price everything is cut back?

                      Not really personal experience, estimates he considered?
                      Quote: tracer
                      I remember those in '91.

                      It seems, except for the chamber pot, you no longer have to remember. The slogans are very similar to those that the young "Nashi" shout.
                      Quote: tracer
                      It's a pity they were bludgeoned with batons, it was necessary with shoulder blades, as in Tbilisi

                      Yeah, tell me more that 21 oddshbr brushed the crowd with shoulder blades.
                  3. -2
                    April 19 2020 19: 14
                    Quote: Fan-Fan
                    Stalin in 20 years has beaten off a powerful state and at an unprecedented pace so far

                    Want to get a pick in HANDS. Yes, in the gulag GO, build for days Zh.D. beyond the Arctic Circle under the supervision of machine gunners?
            2. +12
              April 16 2020 17: 30
              Teach the story right. Just now, right now, we have directly built paradise on earth. The rest is to hell. All collapsed, all that is possible and impossible. Where our bearings are made, let me know. We don’t have anything of our own, we only sell natural storerooms to the west intensively. We sell everything that they take. We don’t need anything, we have a president.
              1. +12
                April 16 2020 17: 33
                My production is done by the Volgograd Region Kotovsky District plain bearings with a diameter of 5 to 600 mm.
                1. +4
                  April 16 2020 17: 44
                  Our GPZ 15 works. Not like before, capitalism however, but produces products, people get paid. Not all the rules, but it must be decided radically, and not the top shuffle back and forth.
                  But this, BECAUSE!
                2. -4
                  April 17 2020 14: 23
                  Where our bearings are made, let me know. We don’t have anything of our own, we only sell natural storerooms to the west intensively. We sell everything that they take. We don’t need anything, we have a president.
                  Do you think Andryushka needs your answer ??? No, he needs to be noted, because
                  The go-ahead was and BABOSIKI threw!
                  1. -2
                    April 20 2020 07: 52
                    and how many Sergunks threw you what kind of power are you tearing? or are you from edrosnya and goskoryta grunt that does not tear?
                    1. +5
                      April 20 2020 09: 03
                      I am a man who wears epaulettes; I don’t need to throw anything. And for the salary that I get, I have long given to the state with interest. Andryushenka was at heart, is and will be liked by you or not. But you are lucky, we have more than 260 countries in the world and the power is different in each, so you can choose your liking and calmly move there to the ICP. You will save your health and nerves.
                      1. -2
                        April 20 2020 09: 11
                        aa, the Russian guard, defending citizens. why should I move if I don't like thieves in power? Wali himself with his oligarchs, otherwise people remember who pressed him
                      2. +4
                        April 20 2020 09: 18
                        Yeah NKVDshnik. So you be careful andryushka. Ato after tyrant Putin some democrat Navalny Ali Sobchak will come and order to catch such patriots as you and hang them in secret GULAGs on oaks. So run somewhere while the tyrant is in power.
              2. +14
                April 16 2020 20: 53
                Where do our bearings do, let me know


                It took somehow a few pieces for the "hand-made" and one for the spinning reel. I stopped at the "Bearing Sales Agency". I'm talking sizes. The answer to me was: "Do you have China or SKF, or maybe FAG? We can NSK." Yes, I say, it's easier (we are Pskopian (s)). The loads will not be strong. He asked: "Are there ours?"
                Ours were not there. I took "china". Of ours, they said, some specialized, and then very few. It is clear that the bearing from the tank to the fishing reel will not fit, it will be heavy. laughing
                Hubs were needed for cars. Ours don't. Do all and sundry. Both good and full "G". But there were no domestic ones in the hefty catalog. So that right away: "Moscow Ball Bearing Plant". And the photo, as much as the eyes are blind from the quality. Ended up. Optimized, reconstructed, modernized, with (x) vatized, maybe "merged" (connected in the sense) or even more sophisticated. belay
                1. +2
                  April 16 2020 21: 27
                  What optimized with is true.
                  There was a workshop for precision bearings at the GPZ, but again, small series ...
                  And for tanks, tractors, combines, this is welcome.
                  But then again, the machine stock is out of date, for the most part, it's difficult to talk about quality.
                  By the way, for a classic, bearings are tapered ... you take it, put it on, and then, how lucky !!! or no luck.
                  There is a store at the factory, there are bearings, many of which are.
                2. +4
                  April 17 2020 08: 00
                  "Moscow ball bearing plant"

                  In Moscow, not a single plant was left. Optimized everything.
                  1. +4
                    April 17 2020 20: 08
                    Omsk also, not a single plant, and what was the technopolis of the Union
                  2. +2
                    April 18 2020 10: 49
                    Moscow Bearing in 2016 moved to Tver LLC GPZ 2.
              3. +2
                April 17 2020 08: 50
                Quote: Andrey Iv
                Where do we make bearings

                This mantra is no longer valid!
              4. -3
                April 18 2020 04: 20
                Nowhere is there anything of their own, everyone in China is doing it, so the whole world. This is how the macroeconomics unfolded. The question is not that "everything is gone," but the question is that Russia as a state should not have been there. But she survived, thanks to the selfless people who believed the new leader of Russia. It was then that the vertical of power was built, and the country began to rise from the ruins. The process is far from over. There are many problems, but they can be solved. You just don't understand anything about economics and politics either. You take it and share it.
                1. 0
                  April 18 2020 05: 59
                  Quote: tracer
                  But she survived, thanks to the selfless people who believed in the new leader of Russia.
                  Yes, to selfless ones like you ... To go over the hill and sing patriotic songs to the "savior".
                2. -1
                  April 18 2020 11: 00
                  There are 28 bearing factories in Russia, but they export most of their products, it is unprofitable to sell ours inside the country, because there are numerous cheap Chinese of all diameters.
              5. +3
                April 18 2020 12: 04
                Everything has collapsed - it's just so

                And at the Samara Bearing plant, the guys are engaged in the production of non-bearings - everyone is deceiving you,
                they are simply innovative rings for sewer sumps.
                1. -1
                  April 18 2020 19: 42
                  Original photo, piece production.
                  And in order for the country to live, it is necessary 70% of its production and more.
                  1. +1
                    April 19 2020 17: 08
                    You are these 70% of what the USSR produced - you will eat, in such a volume of rolling bearings Russia does not need how much they buy and produce - and what is clear in the photo that this is small-scale production will you put such bearings on a bicycle with a large-scale one?
                    1. -1
                      April 19 2020 23: 27
                      Our needs should be provided with our goods at 70% of 100%. So no need to choke
              6. -1
                April 18 2020 19: 35
                Not only bearings, hardware are also all imported ... We don’t need anything! There is no industry, so there’s no one to produce.
                Just recently, Putin confidentially conferred on the radio industry, it is evident in connection with the crisis and the pandemic the full address of kaput.
                In short, the power works in the mode of plugging holes, temporary workers in one word!
                1. -2
                  April 19 2020 17: 11
                  In Russia, they produce everything - but it’s not enough for the domestic market because it is unprofitable to sell, but they are well pushed for export.
                  1. -1
                    April 20 2020 07: 58
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    In Russia, they produce everything - but it’s not enough for the domestic market because it is unprofitable to sell, but they are well pushed for export.

                    wallow what kind of refrigerators or televisions of domestic manufacture I can buy well, at least in Russia at least for a foreign country (you export :)). Yes, and what’s flying inside that hill is not silt, carcasses and airbases, etc. and what kind of car production - go for queues and frets are already stopped production several times
                  2. -2
                    April 20 2020 09: 57
                    You simply repeat the cliche invented for simpletons. If we discuss in categories the market will decide everything for us, then we can safely talk about the loss of independence.
                    I repeat once again that it is impossible to approach the construction of the state from market positions, this is a big mistake.
                2. -1
                  April 20 2020 09: 19
                  It’s worth going into the market even in stationery, everything from paper clips to toys, China. even felt-tip pens have forgotten how to make their own
            3. 0
              April 19 2020 02: 16
              rocket757 (Victor)
              They don’t want to listen to a simple warning that NOW, THIS IS NOT TIME.

              And during the First World War - what was on time?
              And when on time, when everything is fine and oil for 130?
        3. 0
          April 16 2020 18: 04
          Quote: rocket757
          It all depends on the people, citizens of this country.
          They can, they can’t ... or rather, can we get together and ....
          The question is to no one and to everyone at once.

          Gathering to once again plunge the country into chaos and poverty, the opposition does not change at any time.
          1. -5
            April 16 2020 18: 39
            When calmly, according to plan, everything is done, in a more or less calm atmosphere, a cataclysm is not an obligatory result.
            To arrange a fly right now, the result is obvious.
            1. -3
              April 16 2020 18: 49
              Quote: rocket757
              When calmly, according to plan, everything is done, in a more or less calm atmosphere, a cataclysm is not an obligatory result.
              To arrange a fly right now, the result is obvious.

              Yes, when you don’t have a happy outcome, it’s always one, that in 1917, that of the 90s.
              1. -3
                April 16 2020 19: 22
                In the 17th and 90s, there was a fundamental replacement of the social system. The global transition of OWNERSHIP, WEALTH, from one hand to another!
                This cataclysm is global, not only within one country was.
                The question is, what do we want, are we achieving NOW ???
                Shuffle the faces on top, this is one short story.
                Fundamentally changing the system, this is no longer a short story, it is for a long time and very difficult.
                I don’t understand what some people want to do right NOW, when it is necessary to deal with important business?
                1. -2
                  April 16 2020 20: 01
                  Quote: rocket757
                  In the 17th and 90s, there was a fundamental replacement of the social system. The global transition of OWNERSHIP, WEALTH, from one hand to another!
                  This cataclysm is global, not only within one country was.
                  The question is, what do we want, are we achieving NOW ???
                  Shuffle the faces on top, this is one short story.
                  Fundamentally changing the system, this is no longer a short story, it is for a long time and very difficult.
                  I don’t understand what some people want to do right NOW, when it is necessary to deal with important business?

                  Change system laughing on what? To the west? Or in Chinese? laughing
                  1. +2
                    April 16 2020 21: 18
                    Who is so much for that, he offers one.
                    But the Chinese are now fundamentally no different from the western. Hybrid.
                    A socialist is not considered at all, no?
                    1. -1
                      April 17 2020 09: 28
                      Quote: rocket757
                      Who is so much for that, he offers one.

                      Here you have the path to the collapse of any country. Hence the simple conclusion that no one from the opposition knows how to change and how to change, the main thing is to raise a bunch and cut the dough, as well as recruit a bunch of romantic idiots that will help to rise to the top of power laughing There is no opposition in Russia, any opposition lives on financing the West, or at the expense of those who benefit from the collapse of the country.
                      1. -2
                        April 17 2020 11: 27
                        The conclusion is simple and obvious, many have long understood this!
                        I just suggested not to raise the storm NOW !!! Because the situation is very dangerous, they noted as I do not know who, the enemy of all "advanced" humanity! Ha, ha ...... where do so many people want to destroy? After all, there is no CREATION STORY behind such !!! if you look closely.
                        And they dream that someone will follow them!
                        A good example in the neighborhood, right there Lafa came, for all the skakuas and those who had a hut from the edge ...
                      2. -2
                        April 17 2020 21: 48
                        the situation is very dangerous

                        And what is the situation when the power changes? In all the advanced countries, power is always changing, even in the US Obama has changed to Trump and no one there about the horses at the crossing made noise. This is a normal situation - a change of power, people have nothing to fear, honest people too, but thieves have something to fear - suddenly the new government will no longer turn a blind eye to theft.
                      3. -1
                        April 17 2020 23: 24
                        Are you serious?
                        Answer yourselves, how did the GUIDANCE FIGURES change, and not the authorities, to be more precise, in the same strip? And how can leadership figures be changed even though I’m not even talking about power itself, because power, a system, changes only in one well-known way ... although no, there is also a second one, but essentially the same!
                        Do you know or not?
                      4. +1
                        April 20 2020 10: 19
                        Quote: Fan-Fan
                        the situation is very dangerous

                        And what is the situation when the power changes? In all the advanced countries, power is always changing, even in the US Obama has changed to Trump and no one there about the horses at the crossing made noise. This is a normal situation - a change of power, people have nothing to fear, honest people too, but thieves have something to fear - suddenly the new government will no longer turn a blind eye to theft.

                        There is nothing to fear laughing laughing Want to plunge into the poverty of the 90s? I can give you some tips on how to go through this "adventure" laughing laughing
                      5. 0
                        April 20 2020 10: 26
                        There are things that are not subject to man. What does it mean not to raise a butch? Does it mean to die quietly? But not all of them, some like to die with music.
                        That is, according to your people should move and tighten the belt even tighter? And will power come from excess and not a step back? None of them want to give even a drop of their stolen goods. How do you see this consensus?
                      6. +1
                        April 21 2020 18: 29
                        They do not understand the inadequacy of your psyche teenage despite their age. Therefore, they are minus. Or maybe the Chubat minus are well aware of what follows.
                      7. +1
                        April 21 2020 18: 45
                        Quote: tracer
                        Don't understand you inadequate

                        If I appeal to you, I’ll answer that I don’t care at all, what all kinds of people think and do. I write for those who are mistaken and simply do not understand where they can get involved!
                        I just urge you to study and start thinking independently. To ask more questions to others, to yourself, to begin to use common sense, and not to assimilate to all talkers who, as a rule, are completely illiterate and can not stand serious discussions. Some antics, well, and cons, of course.
                        For example, I refused the minuses right away, it is just not interesting to me.
                        But I won’t refuse a serious dispute. Everyone may not know something, they are mistaken, because we are not know-it-alls!
                        So it’s more interesting.
                      8. +1
                        April 21 2020 23: 28
                        Have you ever tried to argue with inadequate? I'm not hinting at anything. It's just that your arguments and examples will drown in the abyss of delirium, or lies, or "facts from the ceiling." For example, with such abnormally inadequate as Platoshkin. Try to prove to him that he is delusional do not regain consciousness? Its audience is the former Komsomol members of the 60s - 70s who are already pretty crazy. Therefore, having reason and sound thinking, God forbid you to ask with inadequacy.
                      9. +1
                        April 22 2020 01: 04
                        I tried, I have a great, forced experience of communicating with just such a category of employees ... I came to the conclusion that it is useless to argue. Now, if they are being imposed, I try to put them in a ridiculous position and in ignore. Not for my own sake, not for their own sake, I’m just trying to scare away those who are still able to think rationally and get into an ignorance. Among them there are those who can light, speak very pleasantly and convincingly, these are the most harmful. To defeat these will not work, because they can interfere with the truth with absurdity very cleverly! These only catch on that mess and put in a stupid position, very quickly, Schaub did not have time to mix something new ....
                        Demagogy is a dangerous thing, and beautiful demagogy can really bewitch some. Against this, only knowledge !!! But young people simply do not have deep knowledge in many necessary areas. Must be taught!
                      10. +1
                        April 22 2020 01: 06
                        By the way, Platoshkin speaks beautifully, pleasantly, but now there are no prospects for him.
                      11. +1
                        April 22 2020 02: 52
                        You are absolutely right, besides this individual is "pleasantly" rubbing in delirium. His arrogantly arrogant manner of speaking and disrespect for the interlocutor is liked only by similar freaks. And about the youth. The desire to write an article about this colossal problem has long been brewing. These will drain everything that we and the older generation managed to preserve. For likes, for HYIP on the Internet, but simply out of ignorance of history and all that you may not know. They will be lowered en masse. Armata and SU 57 are very good, but who did we put at the controls of these machines? Again, not all over the place, and everyone and everything, under “one size fits all.” I think, not only I understand that the populists, having come to power, will do this ... Syria will seem like a game of tag. The successes of the young and "nelokhs" are perfectly visible from the neighbors. Do you think it will be different for us? No, it will not, it will be worse if we admit mass psychosis organized and paid for by our enemies ala Internet gurus by politicians and economists. By the way, about V.O. ... As a longtime member of the site, I am bitterly seeing fewer and fewer interesting members and no less interesting comments. The site is gradually, for the sake of mass traffic, turning into a gathering of those who have already been mentioned earlier in the previous one. 44 Nothing can be said in support or, God forbid, thanks to the president or the government. It is sensible to discuss these or those changes, the same amendments to the constitution are absolutely unthinkable. Think, and this is on a site with a clear PATRIOTIC bias! Don't you notice this?
                      12. +2
                        April 22 2020 06: 46
                        "nice" for those who want to hear just that!
                        My belief, a mistake is possible - Similar sites do not already express anything, although they show a lot .... most of those who visit them have learned to chat a lot, but are not ready at all, are not able to do something specific, important! What is said on the sites has practically no chance of obtaining material expression; it becomes meaningless.
                        Truth and action must not be sought here!
                        Just a talker.
                2. -2
                  April 20 2020 09: 45
                  People want a simple thing, to choose the direction of development of the country that would suit the majority, and not a bunch of marginals in power. What is incomprehensible to you here?
                  1. +2
                    April 20 2020 10: 14
                    If the question is for me, I answer - I also want to change a lot in the country and I understand, support people who have ideas that are close to me .... I raised ONE QUESTION, Do I need to raise a butch NOW ??? when any changes can break the system of counteracting the epidemic .... but they will, otherwise they will NOT BE ABLE, because the creators themselves would understand that right now it is NECESSARY to fight the disease, and for power it is possible later!
                    That's why they "crushed" me, as it seems to them. This also shows the desire to THUNDER and not to create, to help. For many it is impossible to understand who and why to speak on the topic, the word said to them in the wrong way, so they rush to smash, some foaming at the mouth!
                    That's the whole philosophy, if you carefully try to figure it out.
                    I DO NOT BURN anyone, I just ask questions that it’s good for them to find out the correct answers.
                    1. +2
                      April 20 2020 10: 20
                      In addition - The above simply asked the person the question, how does the CHANGE OF POWER differ from the replacement of the upper ruling figures that occur in all states legally enshrined in the constitution ???
                      The man did not bother to answer, that’s okay, he even figured out what his mistake was, more importantly, as it seems to me.
                      People have porridge in their heads, this is bad ...
                    2. -2
                      April 20 2020 10: 31
                      In an epidemic, no one will break anyone. But even after that, the authorities will not give up the stolen goods for one simple reason, all this is criminally acquired and the people will ask when changing power for everything. Therefore, they are trying to make Putin eternal, not thinking that it is they who make the bloody ending and not the people.
                      1. +1
                        April 21 2020 23: 46
                        Old man, I remind you that in this "heap of stolen" is the Minister of Defense and the Supreme Commander. If he is not your supreme commander, then you have nothing to do on this site. You have made the wrong website. There are many others where they will understand you and substitute a vest or something else.
                      2. -3
                        April 22 2020 08: 04
                        And what about the military review site of the Minister of Defense?
                        Your logic is strange.
                        Personally, no one is Shoigu to me, as a person he is prettier to me than other Putin's singing along. But I do not accept this thieves' power in essence, which has robbed the people and continues to do this even now under the rhetoric of caring for the people. Putin is a hypocrite, a prude and a good artist, only people have known this for a long time, despite all his screen tricks.
                        The people want to change the system and the president pretends that he is deaf, getting off with the phrase "Well, it was you who chose capitalism in 91." And we voted for the USSR at the referendum in 91, for some reason he forgot about it.
                    3. -3
                      April 20 2020 18: 43
                      I believe that now it is especially important to put pressure on the authorities. If the government does not make concessions now, it will never make them.
                      Putin himself leads the situation to a standstill, depriving society of real dialogue and solving problems in the interests of the whole society.
                      All his statements are pure populism.
                  2. +1
                    April 22 2020 06: 05
                    There are no simple answers to complex questions and cannot be. If for you the president and the government are marginal, then your adequacy is clear to me. Marginal people are somewhat different ... Total in your short post. 1. You want a simple answer to difficult questions. 2 was called well, a completely delusional term for people clearly not meeting these criteria. Perhaps different, but clearly not this. 3. Summarizing your presentation, everyone can draw a conclusion about the depth of your knowledge, and, accordingly, the weighty comments on V.O. "And I have Mandryan !!!" Quote from the work of Mikhail Bulgakov
                3. -2
                  April 20 2020 10: 09
                  You do not understand the difference between 17 and 91?
                  In 17 it was a social revolution, and 91 privatization of the state by a group of incomprehensible people who covered themselves with the discontent of the people.
                  1. +1
                    April 20 2020 10: 42
                    Take a look at the textbook.
                    In 17 g there was a revolution, a fundamental change in the social system.
                    In 91 g there was a counter revolution, with the replacement of the social system exactly the opposite, i.e. return to the one before 17
                    1. -2
                      April 20 2020 18: 55
                      The textbook does not have such capitalism that the clan seizes all the power in the country.
                      Do you call our system capitalism? Even ordinary Europeans are amazed at how we allow individuals to live like a padishah. The German Chancellor lives many times more modestly than our reigning person.
                      1. 0
                        April 20 2020 19: 39
                        If we want a change in the system, in principle, then no matter how many capitalists, owners of the means of production, one or one hundred, their clan or their family. This is if we want socialism, i.e. public ownership of the means of production, then this is worth achieving.
                        All other experiments are from the evil one, and the hybrids, different, eventually turn into one of the more stable formations.
                      2. 0
                        April 20 2020 23: 30
                        There are capitalists in Russia, only there is no capitalism. There is no market and so on. But this is lyrics. You are right, I want socialism. And now, personally, I am trying to do what is within my power and I think only hard pressure can move the authorities to compromise solutions. However, the current rulers, and most recently the former Soviet people, will not want to go into socialism of their own free will, and here nothing will come of it without revolution and violence.
                      3. +1
                        April 21 2020 07: 39
                        ON ABOUT! In the end, we came to that determining, main thing!
                        The capitalist, the richer, the current owner of all property, wealth and subsoil, in fact, this country just will not return them to public ownership, will not fulfill the prerequisite for socialism / communism (these are terms, nothing more)!
                        Now the question is HOW and WHAT we have to do ... for a start it is useful to look into the TEXTBOOK, and there, besides the advice, LEARN, there will be a council UNITED! Virus, restrictions somewhat prevent this, because far from everything can be done remotely !!!!
                        So, for a start we FIGHT WITH THE VIRUS, we carry out the priority task and do not interfere with those who are already doing this !!!
                        I hope I clearly set out a reasonable sequence of actions for the builder, a new, better world.
                      4. 0
                        April 21 2020 10: 15
                        I’ve been writing about solidarity for a long time. However, if you notice the government harshly suppresses all attempts by the people to solidify, classifying this as a threat to the constitutional order.
                        Take the same national enterprises, there is no legislative development at all, although the form is very promising under capitalism.
                        So without pressure and struggle, no one will give up power to the people.
                      5. +1
                        April 21 2020 10: 46
                        It is necessary to unite, no matter what! They will crush, denigrate, filthy films filthy, disfigure the psyche of our people, and what’s most dangerous, OUR CHILDREN!
                        But, the ancestors could, and what are we worse than them ???
                      6. 0
                        April 21 2020 14: 14
                        Wow, now people are starting to influence power, virtual meetings through a virtual machine, though Yandex is rubbing people.
                        I have long offered to create a national black bank, similar to the Soviet black box office.
                        But I understand that they will immediately try to drown this enterprise. If Putin does not want to hear the people, the people themselves will decide their fate, the former Soviet man VV for some reason does not want to understand this. He became bronzed, snickered ... forgot how he went in some ports.
                      7. +1
                        April 21 2020 14: 24
                        Virtual communication is also useful, especially since it is a reality, without it there is nowhere. Especially now, this is the only way not to lose contact with associates. But the restrictions mode will end, it will not last forever! Rather, it will not last very long.
                        And then how .... how our ancestors made May Day celebrations, lively communication, eye to eye, this is very important. Feeling of an elbow, mutual assistance and much more, to which it is necessary to pass, to understand that people are ready to go, and not just clatter on the clave.
                        It is difficult to understand, people are really ready to go something until everything from the virtual world passes into real space.
          2. -1
            April 20 2020 10: 05
            You do not understand! People explain to you that Putin’s policy is leading to the inevitable collapse of the country. Well, let's say like Gorbachev. Is it really not clear. He is an artist, he has beautiful rhetoric, and things are full of ram!
            1. +1
              April 20 2020 10: 45
              Quote: Campanella
              You do not understand! People explain to you that Putin’s policy is

              For especially ... persistent. I did not support the current government NEVER! I just remind you that the epidemic must be overcome with the least losses for PEOPLE! Therefore, I propose to postpone everything until later.
              The epidemic, the most crisis period, is NOT FOR LONG !!! By tempering the zealous and HELPING in overcoming precisely this crisis, and not giving rise to another one, it will be very out of time.
              1. -1
                April 20 2020 19: 00
                I agree with you that you need to survive the epidemic. But how to experience it for those who do not have the means? Quietly die under the words of steady care?
                Putin did not quarantine, apparently from the economy. Those who lost their jobs, those who were sent on unpaid leave, what should I do? How much money can a pandemic survive? That’s the question.
                1. +1
                  April 20 2020 20: 01
                  Read the documents, find the exact definitions .... neither an emergency, nor an emergency, nor anything other than mobilization, provides that you can do nothing and get money for it, about loans and other debts, the same thing. Nowhere in the world is there such a thing!
                  So where did you get the idea that if it was not self-isolation that was announced, but something else, those who were left WITHOUT WORK would just pay ??? They may offer to look for a new job, nothing more.
                  This is in the country of advice a person had the right to work, and the state ensured this right! Under capitalism this does not happen.
                  1. 0
                    April 20 2020 23: 35
                    I know, but emergency situations and emergency state responsibility, and, accordingly, the allocation of funds. Remember the flood?
                    They paid people money for housing and food.
                    It is clear that insufficient funds, but still.
                    1. +1
                      April 21 2020 07: 23
                      They dealt with each situation separately, made a special decision, provided assistance, but not to everyone, again.
                      In short, everything is complicated and never compensated for the losses that people suffered!
                      Now they also believe, plan and will, to some extent, compensate for the losses to those who really lost ....
                      Again, this is difficult, but I would not understand many others to pay this to everyone.
                      We have ALL ENTERPRISES WORK! Received a salary, ahead of the advance!
                      That's who suffered, really, it’s HAIRDRESSERS, some others too, but for the first ones, I regret the farthest and would give them benefits right away, so that they would be preserved !!! And after quarantine LOTS, LOTS, WORKS awaits them ..... I'm the first in line!
                2. 0
                  April 21 2020 18: 32
                  Do you seriously think that undermining the institutions of power by any means will pour money into your pocket with a shovel?
                  1. -1
                    April 22 2020 07: 54
                    What are you talking about?
        4. +1
          April 16 2020 21: 24
          [quote = rocket757] It all depends on the people, citizens of this country.
          They can, they can’t ... or rather, can we get together and ....
          The question is for no one and everyone at once. [/ The longer I live, the more I am convinced that nothing depends on the people ......................... .................. It will be good if I am mistaken
          1. -1
            April 16 2020 22: 04
            Attempts to change this statement have been! But this never really lasted long.
            Even the Soviet system, gradually became the power of the party nomenclature ... that is, those who considered themselves superior, smarter, deserved than everyone else. Complete degradation at the end of the existence of the USSR.
          2. -1
            April 20 2020 10: 32
            Lars971, It seems that you do not live very long)))
      2. +32
        April 16 2020 15: 41
        They do not change horses at the crossing. I don’t argue, a wise rule. But the real crossing on the river is simple and understandable - they shoot at the crossing of driven horses, because they interfere with the crossing, as if it were a pity to whom there were none.
        1. +8
          April 16 2020 16: 02
          If the horse has limped or is no longer suitable, then such a horse is shot
        2. -18
          April 16 2020 16: 04
          Do you have a full replacement RIGHT NOW?
          Can you announce the list?
          1. +14
            April 16 2020 16: 28
            We definitely have a list of driven horses
            1. -7
              April 16 2020 16: 48
              Quote: Revival
              We definitely have a list of driven horses

              Very nice resume. The horses were driven, the horses died, but there were no other horses. Well, as always, you have to go on foot. But the main list of dead horses is available.
              1. 0
                April 17 2020 21: 54
                Here the list of applicants is required. And the list is large and in this list is any public politician who was not afraid to oppose the pension robbery. I think all these people know, but if their names are unknown to you, then you don’t need this, but you just need to breed demagogy.
                And yet, when Yeltsin put Putin on the presidency, no one asked for a list, why now do we need a list?
                1. +1
                  April 18 2020 07: 47
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  And yet, when Yeltsin put Putin on the presidency, no one asked for a list, why now do we need a list?

                  Read "Parkinson's Laws", he explains well how to "make a list", and JV Stalin was good at it.
            2. -6
              April 16 2020 17: 35
              And in any case, they will go to horsemeat before reaching the crossing.
              1. 0
                April 16 2020 17: 46
                So, for the sake of interest, look at the list of substitutes!
                Is it fresh there or is it rotten again?
                1. -4
                  April 16 2020 19: 19
                  Quote: rocket757
                  So, for the sake of interest, look at the list of substitutes!

                  Do you feel sorry for the compiler of this list? He immediately, at one point, will kirdyk.
                  1. -4
                    April 16 2020 19: 38
                    This is ADVERTISING! Nowhere is it without her!
                    Do you think people like me have few doubters? I suppose that no less than the others .... we are all the electorate, but for or against, this has not yet been decided. Suddenly inspired and support! Among us, just lovers of the current government are not ......... We need an alternative, but not so rotten, which is in sight.
            3. -3
              April 17 2020 05: 27
              Quote: Revival
              We definitely have a list of driven horses

              1. And who are you?
              2. As for the little-demanded "lawyers" and the like, their "list of horses" includes, as a rule, almost everyone who is at least a little higher than them - whether by position, by demand, well, and further in the text ...
              3. This is understandable, but of little interest.

              Something like this. IMHO, essno.
            4. +5
              April 17 2020 10: 26
              Quote: Revival
              We definitely have a list of driven horses

              Be careful with lists. Under a different government, they can be more effective for those who drive up to the house of the compilers of the lists, on a "black funnel" like 5 in the morning winked
          2. +4
            April 16 2020 16: 46
            There is no full replacement right now! But! When Stalin died, there were also panic moods, but somehow they survived and, in general, they lived quite well ...
            The replacement, unfortunately, however, as is often the case in Russia, will appear only after this ... uh-uh "loss". She either ALREADY is, or will appear soon! Well, I don’t believe that among almost 150 million Russians there is no wise person who has the knowledge and experience necessary to govern the state!
            1. -6
              April 16 2020 17: 13
              The question is not even a leader, this is not a question! The state management system cannot be radically changed! Only to clean individual, unable to cope, and put in their place people who are on the COURSE OF EVENTS! Which can correct mistakes and not make new ones.
              We need to cross this crossing with the least losses.
            2. +10
              April 16 2020 17: 29
              Quote: Yngvar
              When Stalin died, there were also panic moods, but somehow they survived and, in general, they lived quite well ...

              Did not survive! That's just for the crossing they found the lame Kabila, Nikita Khrushchev. Everything went from him, and went to the end in December 1991. Did not survive.
              1. -1
                April 18 2020 07: 54
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Did not survive! That's just for the crossing they found the lame Kabila, Nikita Khrushchev. Everything went from him, and went to the end in December 1991. Did not survive.

                It was from Khrushchev who lied to Stalin to let the Vlasovites and policemen out of the camps ... Well, in the 90s their children took revenge on us all to the fullest ..
                1. 0
                  April 18 2020 09: 06
                  Quote: Sentinel
                  slandered Stalin let Vlasovites and policemen out of the camps.

                  Bandera was released from the camps and stopped fighting the nationalism in Ukraine, and the Uniate Church was allowed.
                  1. 0
                    April 18 2020 09: 30
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    Quote: Sentinel
                    slandered Stalin let Vlasovites and policemen out of the camps.

                    Bandera was released from the camps and stopped fighting the nationalism in Ukraine, and the Uniate Church was allowed.

                    And gave Crimea in addition .. Thank God beat back!
            3. +9
              April 16 2020 19: 48
              Panic sentiments were justified 100%, the country was crushed under Khrushchev and finished off after 20 years, the role of Gorbi was not so great
              And all the most important thing was done by Khrushchev and his Trotskyists-Ajubeys, children of the Twentieth Congress, slandered Stalin and Victory in the war, disoriented the population of the USSR and its supporters, infected the population with the expectation of consumer communism, resumed the fight against the Orthodox Church, brutally reduced the army, destroyed the fleet and the Air Force , dispersed defense kb, seized items from the control of security agencies
              In the economy, in general, complete chaos, Tselina And economic councils, the prerequisites of economic sovereignty of the republics, etc.
              And well, someone always lives in any mode
              1. 0
                April 18 2020 12: 25
                Quote: 16329
                In the economy, in general, complete chaos, Tselina And economic councils, the prerequisites of economic sovereignty of the republics, etc.

                And they forgot to say that he made the party above all, having planted his own Trotskyites-hangers-on on top of the party, and then it went like in that fairy tale.
          3. +6
            April 16 2020 17: 03
            Quote: rocket757
            Do you have a full replacement RIGHT NOW?
            Can you announce the list?

            I already have almost such a list. And do not believe how vast it is. And I’m sure that in the near future, this list will already sound like this - anyone, only NOT Putin.
            Choose. hi
            1. +2
              April 16 2020 17: 30
              Quote: Leshy1975
              I already have almost such a list.

              It is already in the west for a long time, and without you they wrote.
              1. -6
                April 16 2020 17: 55
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Quote: Leshy1975
                I already have almost such a list.

                It is already in the west for a long time, and without you they wrote.

                The list there is continuous rotten meat. It is useless to palm off it to the people. People about / b / cuddles and sends to hell!
              2. -2
                April 18 2020 04: 05
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Quote: Leshy1975
                I already have almost such a list.

                It is already in the west for a long time, and without you they wrote.

                Um ... plus belay good laughing
                1. 0
                  April 18 2020 07: 49
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Um ... plus

                  The guys from the West do not like such words.
                  1. +2
                    April 18 2020 08: 45
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    Westerners do not like these words

                    Yes, and dump on the "guys from the west." I also don't like many of their words (and deeds) Yes
            2. -4
              April 16 2020 17: 52
              You see, I will look at the replacement list with interest! Yes, even now, but it’s worth the effort / you can start only THEN! Although this had to be done BEFORE the trouble came and we were trying to cross the stormy river, along a shaky crossing.
              I’m sure that any nag that always moves forward to the shore is better than trying to replace it NOW with no one!
              1. +6
                April 16 2020 18: 09
                Quote: rocket757
                You see, I will look at the replacement list with interest! Yes, even now, but it’s worth the effort / you can start only THEN! Although this had to be done BEFORE the trouble came and we were trying to cross the stormy river, along a shaky crossing.
                I’m sure that any nag that always moves forward to the shore is better than trying to replace it NOW with no one!

                Yes, understand, you finally realize, a simple thought, V.I. Lenin was completely right when he formulated -
                “For the revolution, it is not enough that the lower classes do not want to live as before. It also requires for it that the tops could not manage and manage, as before ”

                No one has a button - Revolution. But when the condition is , it doesn't matter who is how popular and what place he occupies in politics or the elite of the country. Revolution, just knocks over the "political chessboard"
                and people appear about whom you would never have heard and would not have heard if the Revolution had not happened. hi
                1. -3
                  April 16 2020 18: 53
                  The leader of the world proletariat spoke reasonably and the moment was not only picked up, but also prepared in advance, systematically! I.e. tremendous work was done, shots of fiery fighters were grown and .... further on the textbook!
                  What do we have now ???
                  Moderate grunting among the people and a storm in ... GLASS! which they want to present on the internet as something significant ???
                  Not so revolutions are not made, at the very least, a palace coup, and this is an AWL on the SOAP!
                  We need it right now, is it necessary at all?
                  Who can support this, when all the applicants, visible, have justified themselves more than once.
                  We must work, unite, create a real force that can do something. Now, when the masses see this power, then real events will occur that can lead to changes in the country.
                  This is ABC, political struggle.
                  1. +6
                    April 16 2020 20: 03
                    Quote: rocket757
                    The leader of the world proletariat spoke reasonably and the moment was not only picked up, but also prepared in advance, systematically! I.e. tremendous work was done, shots of fiery fighters were grown and .... further on the textbook!

                    What a great job ?! Everything developed as usual:
                    1) First, the bourgeois coup. Which Lenini "slept", and was at this time ABROAD.
                    2) Then, in the conditions of growing chaos and the collapse of the state, they simply raised the power that was almost lying under their feet. And enough for this, just:
                    The number of the Bolshevik party throughout Russia at the end of 1916 — the beginning of 1917 was 5-10 thousand people, of which about 2 thousand were in Petrograd. Even Lenin did not believe in their decisive success. “We, old men, may not live to see the decisive battles ...
                    of the coming revolution, ”he wrote in January 1917.
                    3)
                    Now, when the masses see this power, then real events will occur that can lead to changes in the country.
                    This is ABC, political struggle.

                    Excuse me, but you invented this alphabet yourself, because actual events occurred differently in the year 17, which in the years 91-93.
                    Otherwise tell me which one
                    real power
                    did people see in 1991 that they made a counter-revolution? What kind of force was this, more real than the CPSU and the power organs of the USSR?
                    Where are those
                    frames of fiery fighters
                    , can it be about Berezovsky, Chubais, Gusinsky and the like? Do not tell me please. laughing

                    PS It’s just that the authorities lost their support, there was a split in the elite, and then the most active simply raised the power lying around under their feet.
                    Was there a buildup of the situation in the country? Well, what about the very split elite and rocked. And now it will download, it’s already pumping - Bulk, this is exactly the same action.

                    PPS And then they will raise power, again the most active, and of course, it will be necessary to voice the idea of ​​why they are. They’ll come up with something.
                    1. +2
                      April 16 2020 21: 45
                      You can say a lot about the Bolsheviks, that they picked up something there, missed it, etc., a long topic. But most importantly, they RETAINED POWER, and this fact simply cannot be explained by luck. They had a lot of enemies, everyone had different conditions, but no worse than those who managed to win in the end! And here we needed strength and much more that they successfully applied.
                      About the dashing nineties ..... the counter went from above, the people took the role of extras, that's all. We can talk about the reasons for a long time, but the fact that everything was decided at the top. It happens.
                      By the way, in politics, it’s not easy to have big fists.
                      A strong leader is also a stunted nerd, but the name, as they say, bright horizon, strength of conviction, strong character, can lead a lot of supporters. It also happens.
                    2. -6
                      April 17 2020 05: 12
                      Quote: Leshy1975
                      Leshy1975

                      Man, have you ever been told that you are a demagogue? wink
                2. -2
                  April 16 2020 19: 30
                  Quote: Leshy1975
                  “For the revolution, it is not enough that the lower classes do not want to live as before. It also requires for it that the tops could not manage and manage, as before ”

                  Under this slogan, the Maidan took place in Kiev.
                  1. +10
                    April 16 2020 19: 44
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    Quote: Leshy1975
                    “For the revolution, it is not enough that the lower classes do not want to live as before. It also requires for it that the tops could not manage and manage, as before ”

                    Under this slogan, the Maidan took place in Kiev.

                    And according to this principle, the Revolution took place in 1917, and the counter-revolution of 1991-1993. And what follows from this? Once again, individually for you, I repeat:
                    No one has a button - Revolution. But when the condition is

                    PS But personally, no one bothers you when the events move to the hot stage, also go out to the square and lay your belly for Mr. Putin, because there was a maidan in Kiev. hi
                3. +3
                  April 16 2020 19: 50
                  Revolution is horror and blood, loss of population and territories, strengthening of enemies and weakening of the Russian people
                  1. +7
                    April 16 2020 20: 16
                    Quote: 16329
                    Revolution is horror and blood, loss of population and territories, strengthening of enemies and weakening of the Russian people

                    Of course, this is exactly so. But you cannot prevent this, you cannot stop social processes with your personal desire, just as you cannot stop the change of day and night at will.
                    Power, that’s the only one who can, no, not stop, DO NOT bring the situation to the Revolution. Power must comply with the needs of society, time, economy.
                    First, it begins with a split in society, then a split occurs in the elite and you get the result.
                    I would try someone to talk about the counter-revolution, for example in 1951 or even in 1982. When society and the elite were aware of unity, they arranged for each other. And in 1990 it was already possible to say anything, everyone already did not care.

                    Or do you think that in 1991 no one warned what the collapse of the USSR would lead to?
                    And how did these warnings help in 17 or 91-93?
                    They didn’t help, and now they won’t help hi .
                    1. 0
                      April 16 2020 20: 47
                      Society and the elite in our country, as in any other state that is influential on the world stage, are always divided into conditionally “Patriots” and conditionally “Globalists”
                      Globalists always have left-liberal ideology, Patriots are inclined to the right-wing conservative
                      A factor stabilizing the elite and preventing the country from falling into revolution can be either a monarchy or an authoritarian regime, or shadow binding agreements of leading elite groups,
                      At the same time, the last two options are risky, and we banged our monarchy, unfortunately, unlike the British, who have so far managed to preserve it and who are of great benefit to them
                      1. +2
                        April 17 2020 11: 51
                        What a monarchy, what are you talking about? 21 century in the yard ..
                      2. -2
                        April 17 2020 21: 30
                        A strange argument, so what, that the XNUMXst century, in Norway in general the national monarchy was established only in the XNUMXst century
                        I’m saying that we destroyed our own monarchy, now since March 1917 we have been tolerating the games of temporary workers in power, the progressive development of the country has been destroyed, throwing has begun in different directions
                        Right now they are trying to lay down stabilization mechanisms in the new Constitution, let's see how it will be possible to implement this
                      3. +1
                        April 17 2020 21: 54
                        Quote: Vladkr
                        What a monarchy, what are you talking about? 21 century in the yard ..

                        21 century ...
                        44 monarchies in the world ...
                        Among them are not the poorest Japan, Britain and the Saudis.
                      4. +1
                        April 17 2020 19: 51
                        Throw this nonsense in the trash. There he belongs.
                      5. 0
                        April 17 2020 21: 32
                        Are you talking about something, forgive me, something that’s sore?
                    2. -5
                      April 17 2020 02: 51
                      Quote: Leshy1975
                      But you cannot prevent this, you cannot stop social processes with your personal desire, just as you cannot stop the change of day and night at will.

                      Because these processes for more than a hundred years a certain group of people, but not the people themselves and social processes.
                    3. -1
                      April 17 2020 21: 52
                      Quote: Leshy1975
                      I would try someone to talk about the counter-revolution, for example in 1951 or even in 1982. When society and the elite were aware of unity, they arranged each other
                      offhand - Sablin, Novocherkassk, Helsinki Group, Sakharov and so on ...
                  2. 0
                    April 17 2020 19: 38
                    It didn’t work very well. Shaking hands. Studied at Novodvorskaya?
                  3. -1
                    April 22 2020 08: 15
                    And what do you think the current government is leading the country to revolution? But she really does everything to make the revolution happen.
            3. -2
              April 16 2020 18: 59
              Do not announce this list - so take a look at the presidents with samopalkins.
              1. +3
                April 16 2020 19: 38
                Quote: Vadim237
                Do not announce this list - so take a look at the presidents with samopalkins.

                I already named the list - anyone, but NOT Putin.
                Do not worry so much, you and Putin did not know until his EBN was revealed to the people. Well, there’s a new one for you whom you also don’t know now. Don’t worry, you won’t be left without an object of adoration.
                1. +5
                  April 16 2020 22: 19
                  You said that you have a list — what is the difficulty in writing it, and not trying to dissuade it, that it’s not Putin? The point is not that the horses are not changed at the crossing, the question is how exactly are you going to replace the horses - the next civil war with all the ensuing charms?
                2. +1
                  April 17 2020 01: 09
                  "I have already named the list - anyone, just NOT Putin." This is your list, on such a list I can assemble the parliament, the federation council, the government, walking through the toilet modules of the city of Moscow, all of the homeless, and the president to nominate Uncle Vasya a plumber.
                  1. +1
                    April 17 2020 02: 57
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    This is your list, I can gather parliament from such a list,

                    According to such lists, already in 1918, various UPR and ZUNR and the Krivoy Rog Republic were collected. And for a hundred years, what has not been collected in long-suffering Russia. But nobody remembers them now. So about the list of "this lad".
          4. -1
            April 18 2020 18: 16
            The question is not on the list, Putin has long cleared the whole clearing.
            But here it is necessary to reconfigure the work of state institutions and force it to decide state, not corporate interests, now.
            Moreover, it is necessary not only to identify the ideological and moral foundations in the constitution, but also to launch the real mechanisms of work of full-fledged parties and public organizations such as trade unions and similar ones.
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          1. -1
            April 16 2020 17: 32
            Quote: kitty
            we can remember how those Hussein Yanukovych Gaddafi.

            So it was conceived behind the "big river".
          2. +1
            April 16 2020 21: 07
            Nobody has transferred and will not transfer any power to Huber, they are all strictly controlled and removed and removed simply enough.
            And quarantine issues cannot be resolved without taking into account the views of local authorities, as is happening in all countries
        4. +5
          April 16 2020 16: 52
          It's not even about horses! About donkeys and jackals ... But they need to be drowned!
          1. -4
            April 16 2020 19: 06
            Have you looked in the mirror? Your ears stick out like
            ass
      3. AUL
        +20
        April 16 2020 15: 48
        Judging by the stream of crap the author dumped on Platoshkin, with what aggressiveness (and stupidity) this was done, we are talking about clearing a political clearing. Looks like he scared someone up there. Preparing for the election?
        I'll have to take a closer look at Platoshkin ... So much shit was not poured on Sobchak.
        1. -14
          April 16 2020 16: 10
          Grudinin also "scared" someone ???
          Platoshkin spoke a lot and very pleasantly. For example, I read a lot of his speeches, even signed, for a long time! But, now he suffered a few wrong directions, NOT IN TIME!
          My opinion is that you can work, create a full-fledged alternative movement and fight for what you believe in.
          But, NOW, extreme is not necessary. That's all.
          1. AUL
            +6
            April 16 2020 17: 13
            Quote: rocket757
            But, NOW, extreme is not necessary. That's all.

            1. And when will it be possible? After the crossing?
            2. And what, in fact, do you see extreme here?
            1. -5
              April 16 2020 17: 30
              Changing everyone and everything is now dangerous. To arrange bedlam in the state is deadly.
              We’ll pass the crossing. With losses, but much less if the situation is ... working, normal, suppose.
              All the rest then ... as for me, it was necessary to do things MUCH EARLIER, but then it will not be LATE either. Such circumstances have developed.
        2. +6
          April 16 2020 16: 44
          Looks like he scared someone up there


          Makes me think. I agree with the conclusion. It can be seen as a normal person, since they still have not been able to dig up anything.
          1. -2
            April 16 2020 17: 18
            This man has never ruled ANYTHING, had not! There is nowhere to dig!
            He is good or not, so the question is not worth it.
            Whether it can or not, this is much more interesting.
            Yes, and who is following him? From whom and what can I organize?
            The experiment on extremely did not teach us anything, when managers, for key positions were recruited almost by ads on the Internet !!!
            1. +8
              April 16 2020 17: 44
              This man has never ruled ANYTHING


              So Putin did not control anything. And once he became president for the first time in his life. Or did he already have the presidency? wassat

              Whether it can or not, this is much more interesting.


              I agree. This is really interesting. But Putin did. And this one, "red-haired or what?" (just a saying)

              Yes, and who is following him?


              So no one? Then shit wouldn’t pour.
              And who followed Putin? Nobody walked. Generally. Absolutely. Because he himself was not going anywhere. They simply did not know him at all until they began to implement the "successor" plan.

              Platoshkin has the right to express his thoughts, to lead those who wish. Who will support-will vote, who will not support-will vote for another. If there are elections, we will all choose who we want together. If there are no elections, they will also be "elected". But already without us.
              1. -5
                April 16 2020 19: 04
                GDP was set by serious structures that could ensure the loyalty of everyone who was dissatisfied with something! What further events have shown. The rules of the structure in cooperation with a group of not poor, serious people. The public face did not play much!
                Now who offers what? From the street? They hope that the street can be supported if it is organized, financed by someone very rich and influential! But this will be an awl in the soap !!!
                And just like that, by itself, by itself ??? Do you believe that?
                Look at the neighbors. So it all began brightly, one, two, three, and now there is certainly no paradise, but something else!
                1. +7
                  April 16 2020 20: 27
                  GDP was set by serious structures that could ensure the loyalty of everyone who was dissatisfied with something!


                  I agree. But in this case, it turns out that he is a "puppet puppet", and not at all an independent politician.

                  Rules of the structure in cooperation with a group of not poor, serious people


                  And then what side is democracy and "people's choice"? Moreover, the well-being of ordinary citizens?

                  Do you have any idea what conclusions follow from your comment about the role and personal qualities of "the one who cannot be named"? soldier hi soldier
                  1. -1
                    April 16 2020 21: 56
                    Ha, nothing stands still. From a simple mouthpiece, the unexpected sometimes hatches.
                    Our shout simply grew out of short pants, already matured and gained its voice.
                    He still expresses the interests of the ruling class, he has an eternal agreement with them about "love and mutual understanding", because the guys there are serious, with money and influence. If anything, they can, they can do a lot!
                    But sometimes they begin to think about the eternal ... as well as about their own greatness, infallibility and further on the list!
                    How does it all end, usually ???
                    So we'll see.
                    About dermocracy, the power of the people can be talked about when the people themselves want to, learn to control their lives, but for now this is pf-e.
              2. +1
                April 17 2020 09: 20
                Quote: Podvodnik
                So Putin didn’t control anything

                Deputy Presidential Affairs
                FSB Director
                Security Council Secretary
                Prime Minister
                few?
                Quote: Podvodnik
                So no one? Then shit wouldn’t pour.

                laughing Shit, it’s just pouring and few people like it!
                Quote: Podvodnik
                Platoshkin has the right to express his thoughts

                Wow! Only his thoughts he does not have, that’s the problem! As soon as he voices his thought, so at least stand, at least fall ... especially about his grandmother ... well, a complete nerd!
                Quote: Podvodnik
                If there are elections, we will all choose who we want together. If there are no elections, they will also be "elected". But already without us.

                The quote is not from Grudinin?
                1. +1
                  April 17 2020 20: 14
                  yeah for half a year 100 leadership posts
          2. +3
            April 17 2020 19: 54
            Hand face. You didn’t try to analyze what he wrote? If the intellect itself is not enough, look at the same messenger of the storm or a seminar on YouTube.
        3. +3
          April 16 2020 16: 52
          Looks like he scared someone up there. Preparing for the election?
          same thought
        4. +4
          April 16 2020 19: 30
          Judging by what stream of crap the author dumped on Platoshkin


          So good boots, we must take. (from) lol
          1. +4
            April 17 2020 09: 23
            Quote: Podvodnik
            So good boots, we must take.

            The bald ones with a stain were also good boots for someone. laughing
            1. -2
              April 18 2020 10: 58
              Do not you think that Putin is starting to repeat the path of the Tagged? At first, universal love and support (not a decrepit old man, not a drunk) at the end of people's contempt and surrender of the country?
              1. +5
                April 23 2020 07: 11
                Quote: ALARI
                At first, universal love and support (not a decrepit old man, not a drunk) at the end of people's contempt and surrender of the country?

                Are there real facts of contempt and surrender of the country?
                1. -2
                  April 23 2020 09: 40
                  Universal love for the president is poured only from federal channels, about his wise rule and concern for the needs of the people. And about the surrender of the country, remember in 1990, did anyone think that in two years the country in which you and I would not be born? So everything is still to come.
                  1. +6
                    April 23 2020 10: 55
                    Quote: ALARI
                    about the surrender of the country, remember in 1990, did anyone think that in two years the country in which both you and I would not be born? So still

                    laughing Platoshkin will come to the kings and turn your fantasies into reality!
                    1. -2
                      April 23 2020 11: 20
                      And then Platoshkin? The conversation began about what kind of transformation took place in relation to the president from 2000 to this day. And yet, I don’t need kings, I need an elected and replaced official-manager, and not nickname acromenia.
        5. 0
          April 16 2020 19: 55
          Take a closer look, during a television show dedicated to the Idlib clash, this activist offered to put pressure on Erdogan, turning to the European Union for support
          Full tin!
          This one would easily go for complete nuclear disarmament and the collapse of Russia into a free confederation of independent regions, but I hope nothing will come of it
        6. +1
          April 17 2020 11: 42
          Right I wonder who we are mistaken for trying to form our opinion? This is the first article on VO that I quit reading before reaching the middle ..
        7. +1
          April 17 2020 11: 48
          I wonder who the author of the article takes us for. Stopped reading the article before reaching the middle, zero objectivity ..
        8. -1
          April 17 2020 19: 42
          If you look closely at it, you will see that the new socialist is actually an old balabol. It has nothing to do with socialism. Well, maybe with a label.
        9. +2
          April 17 2020 22: 01
          Quote from AUL
          I'll have to take a closer look at Platoshkin ... So much shit was not poured on Sobchak.
          -that is, if now someone (absolutely not important who !!!) mass media will be called a pedophile and homosexual, then you consider it necessary to take a closer look - "maybe a good person ??!" ...
          That is, if tomorrow megatons of organic fertilizers are poured on Zelensky, you say: "Yes, apparently this is the best president in Ukraine !!!" ??
          strange definition of the quality of someone ....
      4. +3
        April 16 2020 20: 36
        And then another 20 years ...


        So horses don't seem to live that much?
    2. +13
      April 16 2020 15: 43
      What is the "new socialism" is difficult to understand,

      Of course, it’s difficult if you are biased to approach .. but in general there is a clear and understandable program .. it is enough to carefully study the material ..
      our "socialist" demanded compensation from China ... for the coronavirus.

      And why do we need strong China when the population of the Far East and Siberia dies out? And in general, why do we need China, which threw us with the same pipe ..
      In general, the fact that they began to pour mud on Platoshkin is a good signal. It is becoming increasingly popular, amid impotence of power.
      1. +7
        April 16 2020 16: 03
        Let's honestly Platoshkin is just Zhirinovsky created for people of leftist moods
        1. -5
          April 16 2020 16: 08
          Quote: Kronos
          Let's honestly Platoshkin is just Zhirinovsky created for people of leftist moods

          And what are your "honest" conclusions based on?
          1. +8
            April 16 2020 16: 09
            On the basis that he was going to come to power through elections to build a new socialism. The power of the bourgeoisie will never give up peacefully
            1. +3
              April 16 2020 16: 11
              Quote: Kronos
              On the basis that he was going to come to power through elections to build a new socialism. The power of the bourgeoisie will never give up peacefully

              That's when Platoshkin will gather millions of his supporters, it will be possible to conclude how to come to power and surrender to the bourgeoisie peacefully or not .. moreover, small and medium-sized businesses will not suffer in any way ..
              1. +6
                April 16 2020 16: 12
                By the way, there is an analysis of his program from Zhukov and Remy where they show in detail the impossibility of its implementation
                1. +3
                  April 16 2020 16: 14
                  Quote: Kronos
                  Zhukova and Remy

                  Zhukov and Remy is who? wassat maybe they have the same biography?
                  And I evaluate him by how and with what help he achieved what he achieved.
                  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD,_%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B9_%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
                  A guy from the simplest family, without any connections, enrolled and graduated from MGIMO with honors.
                  And he "sat out" abroad not because he so wanted, but was sent to work.
                  And Kozyrev’s politics has the same relation to him. as to me and to you - what they ordered was done.
                  Did not betray your homeland? Pockets not stuffed?
                  Already good.
                  So, dear East Wind, do not interfere with components from different operas into one work.

                  But how do they evaluate the guarantor?
                  1. 0
                    April 16 2020 16: 15
                    Bad as any capitalist
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8fQbFt3n4I
                  2. -1
                    April 16 2020 16: 47
                    Zhukov and Remy is who?


                    Like who? The mouth opened-at work, closed-finished work.

                    But how do they evaluate the guarantor?


                    No way. For this you need to at least have an opinion.
              2. -3
                April 17 2020 05: 02
                Quote: Svarog
                That's when Platoshkin will collect millions of his supporters

                Something tells me that such a number of alternatively gifted ones cannot be collected ... well, is it possible to hide Ukraine request

                Quote: Svarog
                especially since small and medium-sized businesses will not suffer in any way ...

                ... initially ... maybe wink

                The devil is in the details, "Svarog" Yes
              3. +4
                April 17 2020 09: 25
                Quote: Svarog
                That's when Platoshkin will collect Millions of their supporters

                what This will be an epidemic worse than coronovirus!
              4. +2
                April 17 2020 22: 07
                Quote: Svarog
                small and medium business will not suffer in any way
                -and where are such conclusions ??
              5. 0
                April 17 2020 22: 59
                “When Platoshkin gathers millions of his supporters, it will be possible to draw a conclusion.” I can tell you with confidence that he will never recruit so many rare idiots into his ranks, because there are not so many in all of Russia.
      2. -1
        April 16 2020 16: 12
        There is potential, although there are enough mistakes .... but now there are not enough forces, supporters to claim a leading role.
        There is still a lot to work, work ....
      3. -2
        April 17 2020 05: 06
        Quote: Svarog
        Of course, it’s difficult if you are biased to approach .. but in general there is a clear and understandable program .. it is enough to carefully study the material ..

        You yourself, the program, of course, have already studied it. Throw a reference, I also want to study wink

        Quote: Svarog
        that they began to pour mud on Platoshkin, a good signal

        Did you remember about Grudinin, probably? Then - yes, I agree, the signal is just excellent good
        1. 0
          April 17 2020 20: 05
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Did you remember about Grudinin, probably? Then - yes, I agree, the signal is just excellent

          What good? So that the authorities will again fool the people?
          1. -2
            April 17 2020 20: 29
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            What good? So that the authorities will again fool the people?

            I love demagogues, especially the communist one wink

            Makar, this Platoshkin is just as disgusting to you as the others, others ... don’t go, I’m not configured to butt today - although I’m at a remote job, I have serious problems at the office, and I have a big deal . Dixie.
            1. 0
              April 18 2020 10: 40
              And I'm generally on sick leave. Sick and fiercely evil. Already quarreled with everyone with whom he could. Yes, I am all fiercely hated by both Grudinin and Platoshkin and the power that uses them to fool people's heads. And with demagogy, this is to our vigorous effective friend Vadim, who has not yet resolved the market.
              1. -1
                April 18 2020 10: 47
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                And I'm generally on sick leave

                My empathy. Sincere. You are one of the few smart (I emphasize - smart) people here, pi dreaming of communism (which the Union also built, built, but never built). Well, everyone has their own cockroaches. Take care of yourself.

                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                Yes, I am all fiercely hated by both Grudinin and Platoshkin and the power that uses them to fool people

                But I don’t give a damn about G., P., or the authorities either. They are separately, I am separately. Something like this.

                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                to the vigorous effective friend Vadim which still did not solve the market

                On Vadim, to me, too, exactly. But it is respectful that the people managed to create some kind of their own business (not resale), and so far they are holding on. Although at one time I also dug a lot with him, although mostly on technical issues.

                Get well! drinks
    3. +9
      April 16 2020 16: 09
      The article, bullshit about NNP, was distorted by all that is possible and impossible.
    4. -2
      April 16 2020 16: 17
      Lame horses, which interfere with the crossing, are harnessed, shot and dumped into the river.
    5. 0
      April 16 2020 16: 29
      It is necessary to overcome this crossing, and then ......
      “They are shooting horses, aren't they?” - drama directed by Sidney Pollack about a dance marathon ... laughing
      1. 0
        April 16 2020 17: 21
        We are not a "marathon", we have a couple of crises that are not weak, which can cause enormous harm to the country if they are not passed without extreme shocks.
    6. +8
      April 16 2020 16: 40
      we are just at that crossing, changing horses on which is dangerous for all of us!

      Shaw, again? (c) Maybe we’ll cross over anyway?
      I feel that the old saying "Twenty-five again!"
      1. -1
        April 16 2020 17: 23
        And when was it so "cool" involved with us, if after the dashing 90s you look?
    7. -1
      April 18 2020 18: 09
      Extremely illusory and dangerous point of view. Rocking the situation, of course, is not worth it, but it is necessary to claim your rights.
      We need to negotiate now, and then everything will not be as we want, but only as the power clique decides.
  2. -9
    April 16 2020 15: 16
    All these plateaus, bulk, nightingales, and other parasites of society, life really shows who the society needs, but alas in zombies the same physiognomy, as a rule on all harmful channels.
    1. +10
      April 16 2020 15: 22
      Yes, in zombies, the same ones, already 4 times # helpless and useless, lately.
    2. +4
      April 16 2020 16: 49
      but alas, in zombies, the same physiognomy, as a rule, on all harm.


      There is no Platoshkin in the zombie. It was, yes swam. Face control did not pass. laughing
      1. -4
        April 17 2020 02: 23
        It seems to me that I did not write about him
      2. +3
        April 17 2020 09: 28
        Quote: Podvodnik
        There is no Platoshkin in the zombie. It was, yes swam. Face control did not pass.

        Or is the PR so smart?
        1. -4
          April 17 2020 22: 06
          Who doesn’t understand? Platoshkin and Navalny in a positive way on TV will never be shown with this power.
  3. -1
    April 16 2020 15: 20
    Platoshkin showman. jumping on all channels with one joke will achieve little. but someone wants him as his president. their choice.
    1. -2
      April 16 2020 15: 26
      That's not the word, remember how we all were outraged when some experts like Kovtun jumped from channel to channel, this one there too.
    2. +2
      April 16 2020 15: 40
      Dmitry, here was an interesting moment — there was no Platoshkin, and suddenly appeared. A line in the newspaper, a minute on the air cost a lot. Who owns at least state / federal channels ???.
      But the demon who speaks the truth, still remains a demon.
      1. +2
        April 16 2020 15: 44
        Yes, if the truth is, do not care) his money or someone else. There is simply the fact that such a person exists. and now his followers will tear me hard)
      2. +14
        April 16 2020 16: 00
        Quote: knn54
        Who owns at least state / federal channels ???.

        Have you seen him on federal channels for a long time? He settled in YouTube, but they don’t invite to the fed.channels, they don’t like such people there and are afraid ..
      3. AUL
        +6
        April 16 2020 16: 00
        Quote: knn54
        But the demon who speaks the truth, still remains a demon.

        And truth is truth!
  4. -5
    April 16 2020 15: 26
    Chelovek working with Kozyrev does not arouse trust
    1. +11
      April 16 2020 15: 38
      Do you want to throw Lavrov out of the mid?
      1. +15
        April 16 2020 15: 51
        Quote: Revival
        Do you want to throw Lavrov out of the mid?

        He forgot to mention the one who worked with EBN, Chubais, Kiriyenko and others ...
    2. +24
      April 16 2020 15: 45
      Quote: Proton
      Chelovek working with Kozyrev does not arouse trust

      And a person working under the leadership of Sobchak inspires confidence .. especially in light of the fact that he repeatedly deceived the population of the country and achieved "impressive" results .. though only for his friends ..
      1. +6
        April 16 2020 16: 31
        Also does not hold a word, it is a fact!
      2. +4
        April 16 2020 16: 45
        Before the New Year or right after one of the colleagues posted a video with Platoshkin, respectfully saying about him: they say that this is who should be our president. In turn, out of respect for my colleague, I began to watch that video. A man appeared on the screen in a crumpled gray shirt with an unbuttoned collar, in a worn brown jacket, and his face was also wrinkled, stale, his hair was disheveled. The man looked as if he was tormented by enormous personal grief. With difficulty choosing words, stammering at each of them, the man tried to convey to me some kind of fierce political triviality. Less than a minute was enough for me to understand: guy, what a president you are! There is no strength of character, mind, will, responsibility in you - there is nothing! I’m a shot sparrow, you won’t lead me on the chaff.
        But here’s the thing ... Now, in difficult times for the country, whole groups of Kashpirovskys from politics will surely reach for higher authority, finding their niches and crushing the electorate.
        1. 0
          April 16 2020 16: 57
          Quote: depressant
          A man appeared on the screen in a crumpled gray shirt with an unbuttoned collar, in a worn brown jacket, and his face was also wrinkled, stale, his hair was disheveled

          Eh women .. well, the guarantor we have is polished all this, here’s the female electorate and this laughing
          Maybe he returned from a business trip .. Appearance is the last, it is important to look at the idea that a person stands up for, to know the history of that person, and how he sets out his thoughts ..
          There is no strength of character, mind, will, responsibility in you - there is nothing!

          The emotional component always prevails among women, but which is surprising for many men too)) In my life there have been many cases where the appearance of a person did not at all correlate with his strength of character ..
          1. +5
            April 16 2020 17: 33
            Svarog, in the 90s I had to live in such conditions that life often depended on the ability to calculate who is in front of you in a second. In fact, I calculated Platoshkina in a second. And in order not to offend the one who posted the video, she said already about half a minute. It's ... you were, Svarog? hi )))
            1. +5
              April 16 2020 19: 33
              Quote: depressant
              in the 90s I had to live in such conditions that life often depended on the ability to calculate who is in front of you

              So I found in the nineties .. and even some .. Nab. Chelny rattled across the country laughing but when I was young I was bad .. And my confidence didn’t come from scratch, I saw different people .. sometimes it’s like drischen bespectacled in appearance .. but the character is steel .. and in the back .. I don’t impose my opinion, but better than Platoshkin and There is no Grudinin of socialists on the stage, but I am only considering presidential candidates from this camp .. hi
              1. +2
                April 17 2020 20: 09
                Quote: Svarog
                better than Platoshkin and Grudinin, there are no socialists on the stage so far

                If they are socialists, then Trump is definitely a communist.
              2. +2
                April 17 2020 22: 15
                Quote: Svarog
                but better than Platoshkin and Grudinin, there are no socialists on the stage so far
                -too shy to ask - SOCIALIST(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)) Grudinin already gave his shares to ZAO "Kolkhoz .." for the good of the party ???? or still not, his hands do not reach him ???
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                If they are socialists, then Trump is definitely a communist.
                Yes, it’s not just a communist, but a faithful Stalinist !!!
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          April 18 2020 04: 03
          I apologize for getting into you; I was looking for another of your comments, Lyudmila hi hi
          ..... wrinkled, stale ....... personal grief .....
          This is what I thought when I first saw the network. But he said to himself ---- a miserable look. I do not want to offend anyone. Such thoughts ---- remember the view, the behavior of the politicians of the USSR. Also compare with today's time. There is a difference? You can also look at the foreign representatives. What do we see? Same thing. Let's say the Trump view and the Macron view. Poroshenko and Zelensky. SSSS trend
          I can assume that depending on the type and the electorate will be. You can laugh at such assumptions. But I think, going for bulk or wood, young people are drawn to appearance without reasoning. And Platoshkin? not past not present
      3. +3
        April 16 2020 20: 06
        hi Vladimir, don’t tell a damn ba ... uh, there’s only one group ... They get those whose names are forgotten or not widely known ... Everything from there on the hot August of 1991. look at the series of Smesharikov Truffle ... Here we have such elections ... There ... at the top they understand that the ongoing confrontation, the current president (Yeltsin, Putin) against Zyuganov, for a long time is no longer ridiculous, from the word at all. And to update the show, they put out a scene of new characters ... Without a party, with a dubious program: choose me, choose me, I’m a bird of happiness for a new day .. And the script something old .. The candidate is shoved onto various channels, he broadcasts there, his popularity begins to grow, and then, we find out that the opponent of the current president, robbed a blind beggar, set fire to an orphan’s house, etc., the applicant loses, gets his compensation. .The same thing will happen with Platoshkin and not because he speaks the truth, because he is his ... August-October ... There are exceptions, Rogozin, for example .. What songs he sang about the Far North .. And he bought at the very root, they gave Roscosmos for feeding ... Why? Not your own, stranger ... you never know what to expect from him ... laughing
        1. +3
          April 16 2020 20: 18
          Quote: parusnik
          Vladimir, don’t worry, bah ... uh, there’s only one group

          Well, let's take Grudinin .. Also think of the same group? Then why after the election, and even before it began to extinguish it? I think that everything is possible and the scenario that you are describing may well be .. But what then? After all, everyone can come under the suspicion that he is fake and from the same group .. I believe that you need to look at Platoshkin .. if from the same group, then he will show himself, if not .. then they will extinguish it toughly soon .. hi
          1. -1
            April 16 2020 23: 59
            Look, Platoshkin will do quite a few "stupid things", like Novorossiysk .. If he doesn’t get it, he’s up to the elections, and if it does… they’ll talk about him, this is the same Platoshkin who… and so on. You see citizens, there is no alternative to zeroed ... Time will tell ... smile
            1. +1
              April 17 2020 08: 07
              Quote: parusnik
              Look, Platoshkin will do quite a few "stupid things", like Novorossiysk ........ Time will tell ... smile
              I don’t even want to say who they heard similar words from negative
              1. -2
                April 17 2020 08: 47
                Quote: Reptiloid
                Quote: parusnik
                Look, Platoshkin will do quite a few "stupid things", like Novorossiysk ........ Time will tell ... smile
                I don’t even want to say who they heard similar words from negative

                Of course, I meant the words of Platoshkin, not yours, Alexey!
        2. +1
          April 16 2020 21: 24
          I read Platoshkin's book about Chile. Good book. He has 3 volumes about the Mexican Revolution, some more. Participation in the show ---- somehow it ...... negative
          1. -1
            April 16 2020 23: 52
            I have no doubt that Grudinin was extinguished and is still being vengefully extinguished only because it violated the agreement. The electorate expressed dissatisfaction with the participation of "housewives" and "clowns" in the presidential elections - humiliating, you know. Are we a power or not? And then a large and authoritative figure, Grudinin, was introduced to the list of candidates. He had to calmly and resignedly lose in the "tense" struggle, return to his previous activities as a collective farm oligarch, and all the participants in the electoral drama would retain their face. But, apparently, the guy woke up an appetite for higher power, and he decided that elections are serious. It was enough for me to see his communication with the oligarchs on RBC a couple of times to understand that he is their own for them. With the expectation of subsequent gesheft, they will definitely cheat him as a candidate on a real power struggle, organize a coalition with him against Putin and, if necessary, finance his participation in the elections, promise loyalty if successful. Apparently, it happened so. And then the necessary dirt was taken out of the store of people loyal to Putin. Perhaps they will do the same with the "unmarried" Platoshkin (the 90s soiled everyone!). This is if Platoshkin is invited to participate in the show.
            1. 0
              April 17 2020 08: 00
              smile Good day to you! Thanks for the explanation Lyudmila! I am always pleased to read your comments .. I also recall the words of the communist Alexander Green that the candidates will be bourgeois in bourgeois elections, below is my comment to Alexei.
              1. -2
                April 17 2020 08: 33
                Dima, hello and don’t try to get sick)) Here we have such a minimum program now.
                In general, I believe that the road to hell is lined with the bodies of naive people.
                1. -1
                  April 17 2020 08: 43
                  Thank you Lyudmila! I also wish you health to your loved ones! It turns out, according to reports, that those who participated in specific meetings of people fell ill. Whatever the reason for this. Let it be important. That’s why you don’t go to meetings, observe self-isolation and distances between people.
          2. -1
            April 16 2020 23: 53
            Dmitry, judge for yourself .. If all were so good, why was it necessary to abolish the candidate against all, but canceled when all parliamentary parties began to lose to this candidate. They introduced a 5% barrier, for which, new parties began to appear in the Duma, they began to quietly declare about yourself .. competitors ... And God forbid, all of a sudden, this small fry will unite ...? All parties in the Duma voted for the rejection of the candidate against all, a 5% barrier ... Grudinin, Platoshkin are the same games ...
            1. -1
              April 17 2020 07: 48
              I understand this, Alexei, but I understand this not by reason, not by knowledge of parties and market conditions, but by everyday life somehow ... And I can’t articulate it as well as you and Lyudmila .. Let's just say that by reading a book or two any author, you can get an idea about the author himself. ?? So, the author’s books, it seems to me, contradict what we are seeing now. Especially the accusations to China. Well, like a rafter. ??? The motives of which are understandable and have both material and political basis ((upcoming elections))
              Good morning, hi Alexey!
              Quote: parusnik
              Dmitry, judge for yourself .. If all were so good, why was it necessary to abolish the candidate against all, but canceled when all parliamentary parties began to lose to this candidate. They introduced a 5% barrier, for which, new parties began to appear in the Duma, they began to quietly declare about yourself .. competitors ... And God forbid, all of a sudden, this small fry will unite ...? All parties in the Duma voted for the rejection of the candidate against all, a 5% barrier ... Grudinin, Platoshkin are the same games ...
  5. -2
    April 16 2020 15: 28
    he should choose a liberal screen and stop dishonoring the socialist idea, to which the author has deep sympathies
    Platoshkin-New-Zhirik. And his goal is to ride the Left Turn. For organizing rallies during quarantine measures, you need to give a time limit, and do not care about "general adoration". Shit - with his nose. And then Tukhachevsky has an innocent victim fool , and the Tambov peasants, he refreshed with "dicalon". angry
    1. +1
      April 16 2020 15: 39
      What quarantine has already been announced?
      Damn, missed the news
    2. 0
      April 16 2020 16: 06
      Do you know why we, with you, have been instructed because there is a custom-made article, today V.O. was a publication, support no money, help, and what ??? Yes, let it be banned, and minus, I’ll live without it, my head and hands are in place. PS, at first they put a plus.
  6. +16
    April 16 2020 15: 30
    There is no new socialism - there is only one sane option. Stalin ..
    1. +2
      April 16 2020 15: 43
      Quote: paul3390
      There is no new socialism - there is only one sane option. Stalin ..
      That's right, but just to turn off the liberal Third Rome.
      1. -5
        April 17 2020 22: 15
        Why is there no other option? Look at Norway, they live richly, calmly and with dignity. Why can't we do this?
        1. +2
          April 18 2020 06: 09
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          Look at Norway, they live richly, calmly and with dignity. Why can't we do this?

          You can, "suitcase-station". Russia is not Norway and never will be!
  7. +17
    April 16 2020 15: 33
    Our eternal best president in the galaxy. He is a super brain. And there is no change for him around alone narrow-minded pygmies. And the main party, only it will lead us to universal victory and make enemies and partners. Hooray!
    1. +12
      April 16 2020 15: 47
      Quote: Old Partisan
      Our eternal best president in the galaxy. He is a super brain. And there is no change for him around alone narrow-minded pygmies. And the main party, only it will lead us to universal victory and make enemies and partners. Hooray!

      Yes, the message of the article is just that wassat They say that it’s better than someone who has dried oars for 20 years already.
    2. +4
      April 16 2020 16: 59
      He is a super brain. And there is no change for him


      Agree: "Temple on the mountain".

      Accent, by the way, can be put in different ways. Great and powerful Russian language!
  8. +14
    April 16 2020 15: 34
    author: "New Socialist" demands to distribute money to small businesses, "like in the USA", in the context of the coronavirus. "

    Wow, what a scoundrel, demands to give money to people!
    As I understand it from the author, Sobyakin is a fine fellow: "you cannot help people with money, budgets will crack," and the idol Medmedev "has no money, but you hold on."

    And how does the author relate to the authorities that referred to the United States and Germany while raising their retirement age, branded them with foreign agents !? He cried, twisting his arms, but they all look at the trump in their mouths, they say they all pull from there?
    The author is probably directly warped by the president’s use of yard jargon? Or those people who need people, you need to understand.

    So, the usual licimerism or "must be understood"?
    1. -3
      April 16 2020 15: 46
      we are not states. and not all can. give you now 1000000 bucks what will you do? want to guess?
      1. AUL
        +1
        April 16 2020 16: 04
        Give! Bet you won’t guess?
        1. +1
          April 16 2020 16: 12
          spend it. buy a German car and an American iPhone. I do not think that you are more original than 99 percent of people.
          1. AUL
            +3
            April 16 2020 16: 23
            Not guessed, not guessed!
            I’ll sew a bathrobe for myself. Made from natural silk, with dragons all over the field. Belt with tassels! good So do not argue if you are not sure.
            PS when you bring 1000000 bucks?
            1. +5
              April 16 2020 16: 39
              Quote from AUL
              I’ll sew a bathrobe for myself. Made of natural silk

              Currently, China is the largest producer of silk (about 50% of total world production). India produces about 15% of the world's silk, followed by Uzbekistan (about 3%) and Brazil (about 2,5%). Significant producers are also Iran, Thailand and Vietnam. So how does your Chinese silk differ from a German car and an American iPhone? :)
      2. +2
        April 16 2020 16: 06
        Of course we can have money, it’s just that they are considered by the authorities as their pocket
      3. -3
        April 16 2020 16: 27
        The fact that we are not states is what I agree with, but it is proposed to give out the amounts not like in the states!
        Or are we not states to such a dismay that just # helpless and worthless
    2. +1
      April 16 2020 17: 53
      Wow, what a scoundrel, demands to give money to people!


      Thats exactly what I mean. Money and people? They will spend them! And there will be no more!
      Indeed, the
      budgets crack
      .
      So hold on for now.
      All health and do not cough.
  9. +14
    April 16 2020 15: 36
    You can relate to Platoshkin as anyone sees it.
    Personally, I see it a little differently.
    And I evaluate him by how and with what help he achieved what he achieved.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD,_%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B9_%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
    A guy from the simplest family, without any connections, enrolled and graduated from MGIMO with honors.
    And he "sat out" abroad not because he so wanted, but was sent to work.
    And Kozyrev’s politics has the same relation to him. as to me and to you - what they ordered was done.
    Did not betray your homeland? Pockets not stuffed?
    Already good.
    So, dear East Wind, do not interfere with components from different operas into one work.

    What he says and does now is, from my point of view, only a way to draw attention to his person. And, of course, Putin and his policy fall, as well as possible, into the mainstream of attracting the electorate.
    "Nothing is new under the Moon. My friend Horace!"
    1. -1
      April 16 2020 17: 01
      A guy from the simplest family, without any connections, enrolled and graduated from MGIMO with honors.


      Can anyone gnaw at envy?
      1. -1
        April 16 2020 18: 38
        But who knows HIS?
  10. -15
    April 16 2020 15: 38
    This balabol once betrayed that I lived abroad for 25 years as a consul - I have no doubt that the Cossack was recruited. And all this socialist turbidity, thanks to which he collects suckers, pursues specific goals of obtaining foreign giants and a supporter in the USA for this is available - the system is established.
    1. +3
      April 16 2020 16: 04
      Quote: Vadim237
      This balabol somehow betrayed that he lived abroad for 25 years as a consul

      But about the criminal case instituted against him during his service with Sobchak did not say anything? wassat
      Read:
      From 1987 to 2006 he worked in Russian diplomatic missions in Germany and the USA.

      And he said that the amendment to the constitution that the presidential candidate should be living in Russia for the past 20 years could affect him and those who chose Russian citizenship as part of Crimea in 2015. fool
      How not to remember here:
      A week goes by. Ensign
      - At the last lesson, we had a dispute with Private Ivanov ... I was wrong.
      Water still boils at 100 degrees, and 90 degrees is a right angle ...
      1. -1
        April 16 2020 17: 42
        This fruit will never become the president of Russia. The president will be the one whom Putin puts in receivers.
        1. -1
          April 16 2020 18: 15
          Pray for the king’s icon? Apparently yes.
          The receiver of the type of the chosen one is a parodox, but not for you.
          idolater?
          1. -4
            April 16 2020 19: 09
            I don’t have an icon since I’m not a believer and I don’t have a Tsar. For this reason, only those like you have a Tsar in their head. Putin will expose the receiver - he will be approved by the party as a presidential candidate - and people will choose him with a percentage of 60 - 70%, and all your candidates of Internet parties and other blogs as they have been in the span for 20 years, and the Platoshkin chatterbox will remain no exception.
            1. -3
              April 16 2020 19: 10
              If it does not come true, I think then you will not be offended !?
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    3. 0
      April 16 2020 16: 13
      [/ quote] This balabol somehow betrayed that he lived abroad for 25 years as a consul

      Balabol here you are, because NNP lived abroad for a total of only 10 years and never, it was precisely the consul.
      And all this socialist turbidity due to which he collects suckers has specific goals for obtaining overseas grants and a supporter in the United States for this is there - the system is established. [Quote]

      Again unproven balabolstvo.
    4. +1
      April 17 2020 20: 12
      Quote: Vadim237
      receiving overseas grants

      His Spanish intelligence recruited?
      1. +2
        April 17 2020 23: 03
        And you think in other states the consuls of foreigners are not recruited - you think badly, however.
  11. -1
    April 16 2020 15: 38
    And there is no paradox in the fact that a person who calls himself a “new socialist” constantly draws analogies with capitalist countries.
    They do it all the time.
  12. +19
    April 16 2020 15: 39
    Quote: rocket757
    I didn’t like much before, I don’t like it even more now .... but, now we are just at that crossing, changing horses on which is dangerous for all of us!
    It is necessary to overcome this crossing, and then ......

    But we may not even overcome this crossing - our horses are too worn out and openly hackneyed ... Look how the amendments to the constitution are advertised on TV. This is just a masterpiece! They advertise everything that is beneficial to them and openly silence the amendment about zeroing Putin! They say how necessary and good is the amendment prohibiting those in power from having money accounts abroad, but at the same time they are silent that the same powers that be rejected by voting the amendment prohibiting them from having cottages, a castle, palaces and other real estate abroad! Here's how, they can't have accounts, but you can have real estate !!! The people are considered fools, our ardent propagandists Solovievs, Brilevs, Kiselevs and the like ... And they themselves have a "stigma in the gun" !!!
    1. +16
      April 16 2020 15: 46
      "Look how the amendments to the constitution are advertised on TV. It's just a masterpiece!" - rather outright manipulation.
      1. 0
        April 16 2020 16: 46
        Quote: unaha
        outright manipulation

        All-Russian voting on the issue endorsement changes to the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
        This is the official wording. Yes Will you vote?
        1. 0
          April 16 2020 17: 36
          Yes, even realizing the meaninglessness of this ritual action - at first I was going to clear my conscience. Now I do not know. If you go, it seems like the legitimization of the action, and the necessary percentages will be collected anyway (and even without fraud - they will strain state employees, warriors and other "siloviki", large corporations will ask employees to go and how to check in). If you don't go - there is no turnout threshold, the result is also a foregone conclusion. In general, in doubt.
          1. +1
            April 16 2020 17: 41
            Quote: unaha
            In general, in doubt

            You are in vain, you have to go. Remember how the "non-brothers" recently contracted Gunpowder. But he really wanted to stay and the Prosecutor General was “his own” and there was a lot of other things from the administrative resource. But the people massively came and said no.
            And that’s hello! I did not react, so to speak, with understanding :)
            1. +2
              April 17 2020 22: 32
              Quote: DigitalError
              ... Remember how the "non-brothers" recently contracted Gunpowder. But he really wanted to stay and the Prosecutor General was “his own” and there was a lot of other things from the administrative resource.
              -what was the problem with him - NOT he had a resource admin ... he didn’t have ...
              Otherwise, “a couple of platoon officers with machine guns will arrive, crumble you into a small vinaigrette, and the end of the whole business” © MVIN
              If an unarmed Golden Eagle kept Maidan for 2 months, an armed Golden Eagle would have been controlled in a day ...
              If in doubt, look at the Russian Federation (1993) or China (1989) or the United States (2014 Ferguson) ..
              Moreover, in the United States they didn’t even have to shoot - they all understood everything in the country of the victorious KS and the general armament
              1. 0
                April 17 2020 22: 37
                Quote: your1970
                If in doubt, look

                I'm sorry, but I watched and listened to Sharia at that time. He (even from Latvia, or wherever he is), I think, knew better. But I agree with you on one thing - he became inconvenient as an outrageous corrupt official (he stole from the money allocated to Ukraine by the United States for "defense" purposes) to foreign curators and they refused to support him. But this is probably not the topic of an administrative resource, but a different one.
      2. +3
        April 16 2020 17: 21
        Of course, tele-manipulation.
        It is hushed up not only the amendment on incorruptibility of the current president, but, for example, the helplessness of the economic structure created by him. Putin has allocated banks 30 billion rubles to help small and medium-sized businesses, and banks do not give this money to the address. Because it is better to be criticized than to part with the stale good. They will survive the criticism! And what motivated them to disobey the president, which means to undermine the state’s foundations? Lack of paperwork? No, this is Kudrin’s last proposal: do not touch the egg of the National Wealth Fund under any guise, but borrow 30 trillion rubles from the population that are stored in bank accounts to overcome the economic crisis, that is, completely clear bank cellars of money. Just a rumor, but people already ran to withdraw money, banks in any case lose cash. And now monetary reform loomed on the horizon, capable of returning money to banks, but leading the population to sharp impoverishment. After all, only a certain amount is usually changed in reform, and what is above is lost. Where are the television discussions on such hot topics? Sometimes I turn on the 1st channel, and there - Ukraine and Trump. It’s like Trump is our president, and we live in Ukraine.
        I do not know who will be the new president, but he will not have to admit this state of affairs.
        1. 0
          April 16 2020 18: 48
          Quote: depressant
          Sometimes I turn on the 1st channel

          The other day, out of melancholy, Russia-24 turned on, they showed the lifting of quarantine in Wuhan. People are happy that they eat hot noodles. No, guys (financing Russia-24), you can't get off with "tomatoes" and noodles - the next act of direct democracy should show this ...
    2. -3
      April 16 2020 15: 48
      Putin will leave in 2024 - you can not worry about it.
      1. +6
        April 16 2020 15: 54
        Quote: Vadim237
        Putin will leave in 2024 - you can not worry about it.

        Did he tell you himself? And you have to live up to 24 years old, with such "wise" managers ..
        1. -2
          April 16 2020 17: 44
          Well, land to you and all your rest in peace.
      2. -1
        April 16 2020 17: 51
        Vadim 237, Putin in any case gives reason to worry. If he doesn’t leave, let’s say: again it will be so, as it was? Will start to leave - let's say about a successor: a clown.
        Because Putin did not choose a worthy path. Potholes. There can only be a dangerous circus. Imagine a galley on potholes? And you thought we were on the water?
        1. -1
          April 16 2020 19: 14
          I believe that the receiver will be a colonel or a general from the GRU for 50 years so seasoned, time-tested, and well-tested in international politics - his own and in the subject.
          1. 0
            April 16 2020 19: 22
            Vadim, I trust the military more than anyone else. And I agree to the military president. Only not on the Tula governor Dyumin. He’s a sweet man, but his brother’s reputation is tarnished, which means he’ll be turned on the hook.
            1. 0
              April 16 2020 22: 08
              Quote: depressant
              He’s a sweet man,

              This sweet man in the area is no use.
              1. +1
                April 17 2020 23: 01
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                no use

                And outside the region, the electorate never heard of him.
                So if they decide, then only according to the "Yeltsin" option - 3 months of acting (to become familiar on TV), then to the elections.
            2. -2
              April 18 2020 13: 31
              Here he will build a military camp for you.
              Just like Putin built a police state. What he knew he built.
          2. 0
            April 17 2020 22: 58
            Quote: Vadim237
            your own and in the subject

            This is scary - in this case, nothing will change.
            1. +2
              April 18 2020 11: 09
              One person will never change anything on the scale of such a huge country.
              1. +2
                April 18 2020 12: 23
                Indisputably. For this, there is a competition "Leaders of Russia", so that the course remains unchanged :)
    3. +3
      April 16 2020 17: 04
      it hurts our horses to wear out


      Here the main boat (cart) does not rock, otherwise horses and jaws can.
    4. +1
      April 20 2020 10: 31
      Ferry, i.e. let's get through the epidemic. Pulling the system right now will be even worse.
      By the way, this is not a long time, by the way, a "good" time to show themselves in all sorts of useful, necessary deeds for ALL who consider themselves better, more worthy than the current government.
      We have those who simply scolds the authorities, but he does nothing, completely full !!! But whoever harnessed the process, in the same harness with the government and can prove himself, will earn not weak bonuses for further political struggle !!!
      This is the ABC of political struggle! all the more so the people are tired of talkers, but he will clearly notice and mark the real affairs!
      Hovering somewhere behind the clouds, and the truths, ABC have forgotten everything, go .......
  13. -4
    April 16 2020 15: 43
    In fact, the founder of the “new socialism” should not dive into such depths as socialist ideology. After all, it was she who brought up people who are capable of going out of the trenches and dugouts in agony, without losing the presence of spirit.

    This is yes.
    In their heads it somehow fits.
    They seem to be for the interests of the Russian people and at the same time for the interests of the collective west.
    So the "new socialist" is forced to hang the same garland of fat carrots as the other opposition, in front of the nose of his flock. And how sweetly and convincingly the speeches of the “new socialist” sound, which continues to beckon for the satiety of Western countries: look at Germany, look at Sweden, have fun with France, etc.

    Somehow it's suspicious.
    Either let the cross be removed, or the cowards put on.
  14. 0
    April 16 2020 15: 44
    On the achievements of the USSR, all who are not lazy leave. Platoshkin is only one of them. Only now there is not enough space for the trough at all, so his system rejects it so as not to infringe on its population.
  15. Ham
    -3
    April 16 2020 15: 45
    Bulk has already made the state of emergency "crooks and thieves" the basis of his business ...
    Now Platoshkin decided to monetize the red banner with a hammer and sickle and a portrait of Stalin
    well, and what is the current dashing time, several hundred sectarians ready to cover up the county commander Comanche are worth a lot;)
    1. 0
      April 16 2020 16: 06
      Quote: Ham
      Bulk has already made the state of emergency "crooks and thieves" the basis of his business ...

      Is this not true? And for his slander, is he condemned and imprisoned?
      1. Ham
        0
        April 16 2020 16: 11
        he is convicted of fraud
        and the fact that he talks about the cottages and real estate of relatives, etc. does not make anyone "crooks and thieves"
        but that is ... the main thing is to believe! and donate, donate! on a titanic struggle with live
        1. -2
          April 16 2020 16: 43
          It's funny!
          Relatives for relatives grew for billions, they themselves grew
          1. -3
            April 16 2020 17: 50
            So funny that even the zvizdets are clowns above you
            1. +1
              April 16 2020 18: 12
              You yourself are Hamlo, Botocloon
            2. -4
              April 16 2020 19: 49
              So are you also for the digital Gulag, like Stormbringer?
              And for a planned economy
              《Counted by computers, as in corporations》. (c) Herald of the storm
              1. +2
                April 17 2020 01: 18
                A planned economy is production in a warehouse, I categorically oppose such a USSR, it eventually failed, the products must be in full demand by the market and bring money to the state that produces it.
                1. +1
                  April 18 2020 10: 53
                  Well, yes, when a market economy produces in a warehouse this is a completely different matter. good
            3. 0
              April 17 2020 20: 16
              Is it comme il faut for a capitalist to use communist videos? smile
              1. +2
                April 17 2020 23: 04
                We take the best - with something I agree with something not, there are options.
                1. +1
                  April 18 2020 11: 05
                  Most likely not the best, but profitable.
        2. 0
          April 16 2020 17: 07
          he is convicted of fraud


          In the course, the whole forest in the Kirov region stole. To the last birch.
          1. AUL
            0
            April 16 2020 21: 03
            There would be a person, and the article will always pick up the right one!
  16. +5
    April 16 2020 15: 45
    Platoshkin, among other things, took all measures to preserve Our Monument in Trept Park, when he was threatened with destruction! And saved it!
    1. +1
      April 18 2020 10: 55
      But Yeltsin struggled with the privileges of party nomenclature.
  17. +16
    April 16 2020 15: 46
    For the author:
    Here is the Platoshkin program:
    https://socialism.ru/about/programa/
    who does not refuse to debate with anyone. Opponents do not come. Yes, he doesn’t offer anyone to “dunk in the toilet,” moreover, even against the death penalty. Only he is also against pension reform and explains this by saying that you can’t introduce a law that makes you work until death ... But, in general, he really is like this:
    So Platoshkin entered the list of recognizable physiognomies as an “expert”, whom now are like uncut dogs.

    Only Platoshkin is also the author of 13 books (uncut). How many books did your “storyteller” write? His dissertation is recognized as plagiarism. In addition, what effect or benefit did it bring to the country?
    Quote: rocket757
    It is necessary to overcome this crossing, and then ...

    We overcome the crossing one by one and they do not see the end. And the horse on which this could be done, today, in fact, cannot even step over an oil puddle.
    Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
    All these platoshkins, bulk, Soloviev’s

    Well, yes, yes ... All these X, Y, Z ... respected figures of the Russian state ... And life really showed that if the constitution does not give the right to remain in power, then you can "make amendments, which I begged the people for a long time ”and lead the country further into the deep ...
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Platoshkin showman. jumping on all channels with one joke will achieve little.

    Here, I don’t know who is the biggest showman: the director of the Dresden House of Friendship of the USSR - the GDR or a professional diplomat who didn’t study in three and entered MGIMO not with sporting achievements ...
    1. Ham
      -5
      April 16 2020 16: 05
      "opponents do not come")))) congenial
      your platoshkin with his 13 uncut books is a left-wing marginal with purely populist slogans ... they will never be realized because 9 out of 10 is a disaster in the current conditions
      it is precisely for this reason that Platoshkin himself will never go to serious debate because all his populist rhetoric will be smashed to pieces.
      he has another task - to cut sectarians over the Internet
      if the bulk haircuts the liberal flock, then Platoshkin chose the left topic
      and they are always with the liberals howling in unison, which also says a lot;)
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      2. +7
        April 16 2020 17: 14
        it is for this reason that Platoshkin himself will never go to serious debate


        When he does not come, then we will "stick in the face."

        And how many times "the one whose name cannot be called" was present at the televised debates? Not a single time. And why? And therefore. He's in the "temple on the mountain."
      3. +2
        April 16 2020 18: 21
        a lonely pensioner in St. Petersburg tore apart the president at the "debate" with one question!))))
    2. +5
      April 16 2020 17: 11
      who did not study in triples and entered MGIMO not with sporting achievements


      There was such a thing. At my university entrance exam, a "sportsman" went to VVMURE and was interested in the account of sports categories. "I was recruiting a football team" (c). "Athletes" had an advantage over ordinary applicants.
    3. +1
      April 18 2020 10: 57
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Here is the Platoshkin program:
      https://socialism.ru/about/programa/
      who does not refuse to debate with anyone.

      I saw his debate with the Semin who he merged, showing himself at the same time a noble stupid boor and demagogue.
  18. +3
    April 16 2020 15: 51
    Two ladies who returned from abroad, before talking to doctors about their poor health, managed to talk with a dozen people. As a result, the number of hospitalized has risen sharply.

    Maybe it’s worth such peddlers (who returned from abroad and did not take measures for 14-day self-isolation), punish the ruble?
    Let them pay for the treatment of these dozens of people infected with them.
    Maybe egoism will decrease?
  19. +13
    April 16 2020 16: 07
    Hmmm ...! To paraphrase a well-known expression, it remains to say: Russia is great, but there is no one to choose! There was Grudinin, who was predicted to be the "alternative to Putin" No. 1 ... was, yes, perhaps, that floated away (!) ... "Grudinin's Putin's" vertical of power "rustled! I will not say that I was very worried about this ... did not have time to figure it out ...: "he is a friend" to me and Russia, or "enemy"! And so, a certain Platoshkin jumped out of the snuff-box, waving left and right with the "new socialism"! Like ... "here's alternative number 2"! I decided to take a closer look at him too ... especially since YouTube is "teeming" with videos of Platoshkin's performances, yaks of Sakhalin rivers during the salmon spawning period! Says, it seems, "neat and okay" ... but, only you must not be lazy and "watch-listen" to Platoshkin with the "smart" and "logistic center" (!) Turned on ... that is, logical !! fool And then "absurdities and misunderstandings" begin to be noticed! And my "enlightenment" began .... it seems, with Tukhachevsky, whom Platoshkin intensively "rehabilitated" in one of his speeches! "An outstanding military leader" who, having entered the Red Army as an ensign, "never finished any academies" ... but he loved to write "military works" with recommendations, his vision of how to fight! In fact, he was the same "couch warlord" as I am a "general"! bully From his "achievements", you can recall how he tried to re-equip the artillery of the Red Army with recoilless guns, which, once in the troops, soon went out of order ...! By the end of the 30s, "no recoil was left in service, but considerable material and labor resources were wasted! A considerable number of promising artillery systems did not get into service in time ... And his Wishlist 100.000 tanks, when in 41st abandon a significant part of 20.000 tanks due to a lack of trained tankers, spare parts, fuel ...!? If a dude gets confused in this, then where is the "guarantee" that he does not "carry a blizzard" in other "spheres"? and began to "analyze" other Platoshkin's speeches! I confess that far from all of Platoshkin's speeches it was possible to get acquainted ... because Platoshkin became so "productive" in terms of performances that he could "keep up" with him ... like a Ford conveyor belt of the 1st half of the 20th century!
    1. +7
      April 16 2020 16: 22
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Platoshkin became so "productive" in terms of performances that he could "keep up" with him ...

      ... maybe only the one who says that only galoshes were produced in the USSR, that there were no meat breeds of cattle, and the communist Stalin was a petty politician in the times ... and Lenin, who warmed his hands around the fire of the Soviet regime, was “German spy, "while keeping the party card on the table ... wassat
      1. -1
        April 16 2020 18: 12
        Indeed, in the civilian sector, spikes produced the bulk at the level of the 50s and 60s in all spheres, they shook up all this production half of the world for barter and loyalty - this is why everyone in Russia is now buying Samsung Sony Mercedes BMW Reebok Salamon Bosh AMD and a thousand other well-known the whole world of Western brands - the USSR and Russia didn’t even have anything like that and there isn’t anything that is little known to be squeezed by foreign products in all areas, both on the domestic and foreign markets.
        1. 0
          April 18 2020 11: 01
          You chicks of the nest of the Gaidar make claims to yourself too. Stop whining about the difficult legacy of the bloody scoop all the more leaving on it. Already 30 years have passed since you killed the country of the Soviets, when there the Atlantean arms and shoulders straightened their shoulders?
          1. 0
            April 18 2020 19: 53
            A pitiful excuse, however - out of these 30 years, you can safely throw out 15 for the remaining 15 years, nothing like the above brands or something similar to the same promoted to do it is unrealistic to do this since the 60s - but the Soviet leadership has hammered into post-industrialization and the civil sector specifically - and now that's all, time is lost all markets are divided the client base has long been formed foreign brands are wildly popular. Russia remains to occupy small niches in this sector. And on the account of "You killed" - the USSR killed itself by creating a planned economy, a distribution system - which every year coped with its tasks worse and worse, making it skewed on the military-industrial complex and putting on its neck 120 countries of the world that continued to suck from the country to the end 80s in the foreign market, our rubles were fucking unnecessary - as payment, since there was no exchange rate, they could only pay with foreign currency for this and chased after it like scalded ones, and Gaidar and his team came at the very end when the USSR and its economy were at death with huge debts, which then passed to Russia in the 90s there, multiplied and for which almost all 2000s were paid.
    2. +8
      April 16 2020 16: 43
      and "watch-listen" to Platoshkin with the included "smart"
      I, unlike you, did not listen to Platoshkin. Therefore, I have a different question, and when you listen to the president, do you include a thinker?
      1. 0
        April 17 2020 00: 22
        Quote: Gardamir
        I, unlike you, did not listen to Platoshkin

        Will the translation be correct: "I do not listen to anyone except Putin, I do not want to run for president! Putin is my leader, tsar and god!" ?
        Quote: Gardamir
        listening to the president you turn on a thinker?

        But is it really necessary during Putin’s speeches? belay And I confess ... I have not listened to Putin for the last 2 years ... there are enough "interpretations" of numerous interpreters on all central TV channels ... Oops! And the central TV channels, that is, "60 minutes", "Nightingale droppings" ... and what else is there? - I hardly watch ... why? when there is :
    3. 0
      April 17 2020 23: 11
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Platoshkin has become so "productive"

      In other words, quality has turned into quantity. This happens with any new product on the market - at first there was meat in the sausage, and as soon as the turnover increased (occupied a "niche"), then the meat became less, and the price did not decrease and continues to grow, adjusted for inflation ...
  20. +2
    April 16 2020 16: 16
    I disagree with Platoshkin in many ways. PR knows what. It turns out to me more than one it seemed that he was flying in the clouds about the Soviet past. It turns out he really did not feel it on himself!
    1. +2
      April 17 2020 22: 41
      Quote: Artemy Morozov
      I disagree with Platoshkin in many ways. PR knows what. It turns out to me more than one it seemed that he was flying in the clouds about the Soviet past. It turns out he really did not feel it on himself!
      the minusers did not understand - that Platoshkin was a diplomat during the USSR, lived abroad, received salaries in birch rubles and dollars for hospitality expenses ....
      And 100% did not buy oranges of 1 kg per hand and an orange VAZ 2102 - when I wanted a green Niva (this is how the card came, and without options)
  21. +1
    April 16 2020 16: 19
    gee, I’ll tell you honestly (you can not believe it, but I’m ready to swear by anything) I learned about this patient only from this article.
  22. +6
    April 16 2020 16: 19
    What was this? Is this an article for people with VO or for grandmothers on a bench at the entrance? - Here, I can also operate with vague allegories of the fragrant East wind! In the "article" (more like a banal bucket of slops) constructive criticism - no, criticized episodes (actions) - no, except for a failed rally of 150 people, which, it is clear the stump, will not take place. All the techniques are "clumsy-voice-amerikosovskie": here is such a bad Platoshkin, bad-bad, but we will not tell what bad he did, it is like "clear to everyone," and to whom it is not clear - let him be silent from shame. After the author took to his career, combining the Russophobe and the freemason Kozyrev with the "new socialist" Platoshkin solely on the basis of the Foreign Ministry affairs, it became clear that nothing sensible would be said. I will definitely dig in and find out Platoshkin's position. Thanks to the author for the advertisement. Keep it up, "singers of the oligarchy"! Burn on and on with a spark!
    1. +8
      April 16 2020 16: 48
      solely on affiliation with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
      By the way, yes. He looked, and what did Lavrov do. He was a deputy at Kozyrev
    2. +2
      April 16 2020 17: 17
      I will definitely dig in and find out Platoshkin's position. Thanks to the author for the advertisement. Keep it up, "singers of the oligarchy"! Burn on and on with a spark!


      In and I about the same. They just don't pour slop on anyone. I join the "digging".
  23. +6
    April 16 2020 16: 28
    such an impression. what drove the "east wind" is rented from time to time ... or it seemed?
  24. +6
    April 16 2020 16: 36
    Criticism is good. I support.

    Is there a similar article about the current leader of the country? And in the same tone with the analysis of all the jambs, all colleagues like Kozyrev and the Ozero cooperative? No? Come on! Then everything is clear. The intestine is thin. The bells are soft.
    We should take a closer look at Platoshkin. They say that he even knows how to write books, unlike some. If a person began to pour so shit on it, it is not without reason.
    1. -3
      April 16 2020 17: 05
      Take a closer look? Do not waste your time. If custom articles appear in droves, then it’s just preparing the next clown in the king’s retinue. Those who really pose a threat to the authorities have long rested on the graveyard.
      1. +1
        April 16 2020 17: 31
        long rest on a graveyard.


        Time will tell.

        If custom articles appear in bulk


        So this is the first similar tone that I met.
    2. -6
      April 16 2020 17: 06
      Platoshkin began to earn his credibility on Putin's television channels Russia-1, NTV, Russia-24, etc. And then he created a channel on YouTube and it started, so I think that Platoshkin works for a Western agent of Putin, this is a kind of fallback as well as bulk!
  25. +2
    April 16 2020 16: 52
    In Novorossiysk and in peacetime, all those who disagreed were packed on the threshold of their homes. And now they will not be allowed to open the doors. So, do not worry about Novorossiysk. We have peace and quiet, like in a coffin. smile
  26. +3
    April 16 2020 17: 07
    How is the "new socialism" different from the "socialism with a human face" and "state socialism" introduced in Germany by Otto von Bismarck at the end of the XNUMXth century? For Germany, the game of "state socialism" ended in failure, however, as for Russia, the game of "socialism with a human face."
    But maybe someone will tell the old joke in a new way:
    The patient comes to the doctor: "Doctor, I see one thing, but I hear another, help me please!" "We cannot cure socialism." - the doctor answers.
    And what to do with "communism"? But this term, in contrast to socialism, is easy to use with many definitions: "primitive communism", war communism, "scientific communism", anarcho-communism, eurocommunism, and how many more of these communisms there are in the world, and countless. But the most important thing is that many people have lived and are living under socialism, but no one under communism. Perhaps only those who could afford to live at the state expense in foreign capitalism, for example, during the Soviet era. But this is an exception to the rule, which, as you know, only emphasizes the rule.
  27. +2
    April 16 2020 17: 10
    Good evening to all! The article is interesting. Since I am a direct resident of the specified city and taking part in its political activities in a certain sense, I will voice the comments later.
    ps Changed from duty, I want to sleep.
  28. +4
    April 16 2020 17: 24
    About the "new socialists": The apostle Andrew was fishing from the pier, and Andrew took minnows out of the water ... and after a walk in the water he cooked an ear smile A simple guy, Seryoga Mironov, also a socialist, the truth is no longer new .. smile Really, Platoshkin is a cat in a bag .. They know mice, they know fleas that jokes are bad with cats! ... For whom ... honestly, I don’t know. In any situation, it turns out, whether it be the presidential election, the Duma, we choose the lesser of evils ...
  29. +2
    April 16 2020 18: 19
    Quote: rocket757
    Do you have a full replacement RIGHT NOW?
    Can you announce the list?

    Let's start the old mantra - "if not putintokto"!
    1. 0
      April 20 2020 10: 34
      Just SHOW who can. I just want to ESTIMATE, because for a long time no one can take a word!
      By the way, with GDP, everything has long been clear, he is the face of his system, this is not ours, i.e. not the system that suits me personally .....
  30. +2
    April 16 2020 18: 24
    Quote: rocket757
    This man has never ruled ANYTHING, had not! There is nowhere to dig!
    He is good or not, so the question is not worth it.
    Whether it can or not, this is much more interesting.
    Yes, and who is following him? From whom and what can I organize?
    The experiment on extremely did not teach us anything, when managers, for key positions were recruited almost by ads on the Internet !!!

    Yes, yes, we know that we are no one without the current effective managers ...
    1. +1
      April 16 2020 19: 20
      Here you are and all yours when you will do the election program - write down in more detail how much money will be needed for all this and where and due to what you will take it and at the same time calculate what your exit program will give the whole country.
    2. 0
      April 16 2020 19: 32
      Not this way!
      What is needed is preparation, the creation of an alliance, a party, a movement in which people who can actually do the business are involved, manage a complex process, which is the management of a large state.
      And of course attract the masses! Not just dissatisfied with the current situation, but ready to defend the common, public interests of all the inhabitants of the country.
      Something like that and much more. Those. you have to work hard, then the result will be.
  31. +2
    April 16 2020 19: 20
    Clear. Everyone is annoyed. Pensioners are self-isolating, although many stayed at home and went only to the pharmacy and the store. Others are annoyed that the way to Europe is closed and they will have to rest at home. labor, and someone for "blah blah blah" gets the coveted money. Contradictions in the state are a normal phenomenon. It is they who move the state forward. It is clear that someone benefits from peace, smoothness and God's grace. Will it or not difficult to define. The country has received a push, and probably will not be the same.
    1. -3
      April 17 2020 03: 48
      Are pensioners annoyed?
      Are riders annoyed in Europe?
      What are you talking about? wake up!
      Work banned! The money is running out, and practically no one is supposed to help!
      All the promised measures do not apply!
      This is the "annoyance"!
      1. +3
        April 17 2020 05: 46
        Sergey. I woke up a long time ago. But you don’t understand what state you live in. Capitalism, talking about the welfare of the people, seeks to help primarily the capitalists. But here too there is a big catch. If you help everyone, money will turn into dust.
  32. -2
    April 17 2020 05: 19
    N. Platoshkin is the only politician who cannot be blamed for anything unsightly. And he also has a minimum program. And yes, he speaks the language of the people around him (depending on the situation). Yes, he makes mistakes.
    But somehow you have to hate your country, the people living in it, to protect the villains who seized power.

    PS This scribble is not just a text-swept “letter”, that’s what it is.
    Comrades, enlighten, read the classics and compare. Wake up!
  33. -3
    April 17 2020 08: 32
    The “short political program” itself, or “minimum program,” as indicated on the official website of the movement, is woven from the most popular demand items. And the nationalization of resources, and the abolition of the Unified State Examination, and the confiscation of the property of embezzlers ... There are, of course, items that simply openly buy a near-by philistine, such as “transferring part of the proceeds from the export of oil and gas to each Russian’s personal account”.

    Yes! Just jarring from such slogans! And all this at a time when the progressive world community is thinking how to help the oligarchs! We will give back the last shirt, take off our underpants, but "confiscation of property of embezzlers" is inadmissible!
    1. paw
      0
      April 17 2020 22: 13
      You probably have something against these reasonable proposals? What does not suit you?
      1. 0
        April 18 2020 11: 43
        Quote: paw
        You probably have something against these reasonable proposals? What does not suit you?

        I am against the confiscation of the property of embezzlers. I am for their eradication as a class.
  34. +1
    April 17 2020 08: 46
    Citizen Platoshkin, a frequent guest at parties in Riga. Where "friends of Russia" Kasparov, Khodarkovsky and other evil spirits gather. I think it's clear what kind of person is this?
    1. 0
      April 17 2020 11: 48
      Clearly, another scumbag who seeks to make capital on gullible people, hiding behind good goals.
    2. -2
      April 17 2020 23: 09
      Because he is part of this garbage heap.
  35. +1
    April 18 2020 09: 14
    I’ve been looking at this character for half a year now and I’m convinced that this is another kind of liberal column. Yes, he talks a lot about socialism about how good it was then that cosmonautics needed to be developed. BUT, this miracle is modestly silent at whose expense the banquet was and that this populism cost the Soviet people. It was because of these idiots that we handed out billions of money to Africa while we ourselves had no roads in the villages and gas has not yet been stretched. Yes, the same roads around Moscow are terrible. And what will happen if this populistiches comes to power? Yes, there’s nothing good once again dumped a lot of money for a flight to Mars, and destroyed villages will be around Moscow.
    1. 0
      April 18 2020 09: 58
      Many have learned to speak beautifully, but the business is CORRECT, it is not given to everyone. Why is that one? Yes, for various reasons, that’s not the point, they don’t do everything.
      Today, from the morning, he again spoke and again the same thing. He criticizes, but that which offers .... but offers nothing, which is important at the moment! Sit at home, they say .... and that's it!
    2. +2
      April 18 2020 11: 21
      There will be no villages in the country in Russia in the year of Khan in 2100. all people will live in large regional centers of medium and large cities of small towns and they will be there where medium and large enterprises will work and numerous agricultural holdings will be engaged in agriculture with the massive use of robotic agricultural machinery with AI. This is already gaining momentum.
      1. -1
        April 18 2020 18: 40
        Progress can not be stopped if he does not get the crowbar in the most tender place!
        But so yes, the process, progress is ongoing, it is obvious. When, how, what happens, maybe our descendants will see !!! We are old grunts, the eternal pill ... in short, this is not for us.
        But we still want to see how life will be getting better in the country, they want the very beginning of the process, and then there will be great joy.
  36. 0
    April 18 2020 11: 00
    They also wrote about Grudinin. But the question must be posed differently. Not "for" whom, but "against" whom to vote. Against Putin and United Russia!
    1. -2
      April 18 2020 18: 33
      The neighbors also voted against piglet! So how did it get better?
      Go against, simply because it’s worse, they say it can no longer be !!! It may turn out to be even worse.
      Murphy’s law, a sandwich, a hammer, has not yet been canceled.
    2. 0
      April 18 2020 20: 45
      This is from a series of spite grandmother frostbitten ears.
  37. 0
    April 18 2020 19: 50
    When will this false expert be put in everything !? Let him give out the money that Western curators invest in him
  38. +2
    April 19 2020 00: 40
    I don’t know who Platoshkin is.
    Apparently have to push yourself. From the party of hard workers named after the third workshop.
    I don’t feel the case ....
    To do this, create a batch cell.
    1. +2
      April 19 2020 01: 00
      For this, right now I will touch .... to the zugunder. Since no one will support me. At the enterprise.
      Bo people will never go against leadership.

      Or leadership must be taken into their own hands.
      1. 0
        April 23 2020 19: 22
        It looks like throwing a test notion, "handing out money to small business", but in fact this can be invented and justified by a virus, because they invented to raise the retirement age without amending the constitution, because this is so proto, especially since inventors do not know how

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