Spanish Cartagena: Museum of Military History


1. The building of the military museum stories in Cartagena, Spain


But, clothed in armor,
So the Spaniard answered her:
“Oh darling! And in passion
You are beautiful, and in anger.

Driven by duty and love
I'm leaving and I'm staying
My flesh goes into battle
But the soul will abide with you.
Luis de Gongora. “He served the king in Oran ...” Translation by I. Chizhegova


Military museums of Europe. Ah, Spain! I have already visited many countries, but I have never seen such an alloy of the sea, the sun, delicious food and history anywhere: neither in France, nor even in Italy, much less in Poland or Germany. Croatia ... Yes, it's nice to relax. But there is a story there. Cyprus ... There is even a VTB advertisement in Russian standing on the sidelines, as if you had not left anywhere. Not so in Spain. Here the past is mixed with the present, as if in a good cocktail.

While everyone is too scared by the coronavirus to travel to countries and continents, let's get to know the interesting places in Spain virtually. We have already been to many places this way, but we have not examined the hundredth part of what is there. But today we will have a museum. And not just a museum, but a very interesting museum of the military history of the city of Cartagena. But first, a little common history of this, without exaggeration, a unique place.

Spanish Cartagena: Museum of Military History

2. Front door

The city was founded around 228 BC by the brother of the great Hannibal Hasdrubal, the son of Hamilkar Barki. There was already a settlement, but he gave it a new name - Quart Hadast. In 209 BC, the city came under the power of the Romans, who were also commanded by a famous man - the commander Scipio African.

In 555 AD already reached the troops of the Byzantine emperor Justinian, in 621 the city was captured by the Visigoths, and in 734 by the Arabs. Only in 1245, during the Reconquista, did Cartagena become Christian, and during the Habsburgs a Spanish fleet began to be based in its harbor. During the Spanish Civil War (1936-1939), there was the main naval base of the Republicans. The battleship “Jaime I” was blown up here (the explosion of the battleship will be sure to be told later), and it was Cartagena that became the last city to surrender to the troops of dictator Franco. By the way, the Spaniards themselves love this city so much that they founded another Cartagena in America discovered by them, apparently so as not to forget their homeland!

Well, now about the museum itself. It is located in a building that consists of four buildings located in the shape of a rectangle with a large courtyard between them, which is divided in half by another building. Total area - 17302 sq. M. The museum initially housed the Royal Artillery Park, 1786-1802; then the 2nd branch of the artillery weapons workshop, 1802-1867; Headquarters of the coastal defense command and coastal artillery park, 1867-1924; Coastal Artillery Regiment, 1924-1984; anti-aircraft artillery regiment No. 73, 1984-1996 Today, part of the building now belongs to the Municipal Archive of Cartagena, in another in 1997 a museum of military history was opened, which is a branch of the Historical and Military Museum of Seville. Museum halls have an exhibition area of ​​3520 square meters. m and are located on two floors. The museum’s exposition is rich and diverse, but special attention is paid to artillery weapons. With the help of dioramas, one can consider the fortifications that protected Cartagena from the sea, there is a separate exhibition of large-scale models. Interestingly, the chapel of St. Barbara, the patroness of artillerymen, was preserved in the building. The text in several information panels is given in both Spanish and English. Many special interactive displays. Naturally, all imaginable conveniences are created for people with disabilities.

The exhibits in the museum are guns, uniforms, weapon, which was used by soldiers and officers of the Spanish army, ammunition, as well as armaments of Italy, France, Germany, Russia, etc. In one of the rooms there is a model of Cartagena at the end of the 24th century. The first floor is decorated with XNUMX arches. It is between them that the objects of the exposition are located, primarily artillery pieces. There are halls of ammunition, anti-aircraft artillery, optics and telemetry, an engineering hall and a passage connecting the two courtyards of the museum. The sacristy and chapel with the image of Santa Barbara, the patroness of artillery, which is believed to belong to the brush of the artist Salzillo or his student Roque Lopez, which date back to the XNUMXth century, are very interesting. During Holy Week, meetings of the Brotherhood of San Juan are held here. On the second floor there is a library, an officer gallery and exhibition halls with models of various military equipment.

Well, now let's see the photos. Part of the photo was kindly presented to the author by Paul Lansberg (lpsphoto.us), and some photos were taken from the museum's website.


3. Antique bronze mortar. It was believed that all these curls and coats of arms must be present on the tool, that without it it is "ugly"!


4. However, the same mortars pretty quickly lost all their jewelry. Too much valuable bronze they demanded


5. Cast-iron bombs to mortars of caliber 320 mm. Peter the First demanded from his gunners: “First, to burn the bonbu in the barrel, then to fire behind ...” Well, they were heroic people, as you look at this!


6. Without our "forty-five" no military museum in Spain is simply impossible!


7. As without tank T-26B. This one bears the insignia of the francists. Republicans had one streak of purple


8. Another T-26 is on display in the street. So they were also painted in order to avoid "friendly fire"


9. Coastal 150-mm gun from the forts of Cartagena. The end of the XIX century. It looks like a monster!


10. Its breech and piston lock


11. Also a 152 mm gun, but already by Armstrong


12. And this is his shutter and inscription - 1928


13. The Spaniards had 381-mm coastal guns, but the museum has only separate parts from them, a gurney for transportation, and this shell!


14. A very interesting bronze weapon of the transition period from round cores to elongated shells - caliber 80 mm, model 1886


15. The breech of this gun


16. Another bronze gun of the 1873 model of the Whitworth company. Caliber 75 mm


17. His breech


18. But he had such a six-sided drill hole and, accordingly, the shells themselves. It was convenient to charge from the side of the barrel. And at the same time - a rifled gun!


19. And this is a 150-mm German gun company Rheinmetall period of the Second World War


20. A very powerful field gun of the British, used in both world wars: 127-mm gun company Armstrong BL-60 pounds Mk I


21.M110A7. And to whom only the Americans did not deliver them ...


22. Spanish instrument development company "Schneider" 155-mm "Modelo 1913"


23. 100-mm gun of the same company "Modelo 1913"


24. Spain is a mountainous country, so mountain artillery was popular there. Mountain 105-mm gun "Modelo 1919". Also "Schneider" ...


25. Back view


26. And this is its own mountain cannon of the 1951 model, 75 mm caliber


27. Very powerful Italian anti-aircraft gun M1A3 caliber 90 mm. The Italians put it on self-propelled guns da 90/53 "Zemovente"


28. Well, this is a well-known machine gun of the Bofors company.


29. American anti-aircraft machine gun M45C


30. German SPG Stug IIIG


31. American self-propelled guns M44. In the 50s, self-propelled guns on such a chassis in the USA were very popular.


32. The Spaniards tried to create such equestrian pack weapons too ...


33. The warhead of the rocket “Aspid” with ready-made fragments


34. Spanish Hand Grenades


35. The hall of models. And why not here! Even (look at the window) there is a model of our "Tsar Tank"!


36. Models of Polish and German armored trains


37. The models of our armored trains are good. But, as always, foreigners shamelessly misinterpret Cyrillic inscriptions!

PS In the magazine "Technique and Armament" No. 8 for 1998 there was my big article about Italian armored vehicles. There is also a book: Shpakovsky V.O., Shpakovskaya S. V. Armored vehicles of the Spanish Civil War 1936–1939. Both the article and the book are on the Internet.

PPS The author and administration of the site are deeply grateful to Paul Lansberg (lpsphoto.us) for the photographs provided.
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  1. Catfish April 21 2020 06: 06 New
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    Vyacheslav, thanks! Everything is beautiful and interesting. A tool with a hexagonal drill I see for the first time, funny. smile
    1. KVU-NSVD April 21 2020 10: 51 New
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      But he had such a six-sided drill hole and, accordingly, the shells themselves. It was convenient to charge from the side of the barrel. And at the same time - a rifled gun!
      Trunks of a non-circular cross section are generally not new, remember the same Shuvalov unicorns. But I see the hexagon for the first time. A reasonable question - why should he cut? That is, why the rifling in the guns is understandable, but how the shell twists in the hexagon is a question .. recourse
      1. kalibr April 21 2020 11: 25 New
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        And so it spins. This is a Whitworth polygon drill. A hexagonal shell slides inside a twisted barrel. And flying, by inertia continues to make revolutions around its axis.
        1. KVU-NSVD April 21 2020 11: 38 New
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          Yes, I somehow didn’t realize that the projectile could give the rotational movement by “twisting” the bore, rather than with rifling. Well then, it’s not rifling, but rather “twisted” rather, sorry for taftology ... The article and illustrations are very interesting, thanks .. hi How interesting are these trunks drilled ... or still cast? In general, about Whitworth drilling and samples with its use would be an interesting topic for the "Armament" .. Do not you find? Everyone would be grateful .. with your style of presentation and a lot of illustrations especially .. repeat
          1. kalibr April 21 2020 12: 45 New
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            Quote: KVU-NSVD
            In general, about Whitworth drilling and samples with its use would be an interesting topic for the "Armament" .. Do not you find? Everyone would be grateful ..

            Interesting offer, Victor. In England there is a kind of artillery museum. Some sort of fort ... Hands didn’t reach. But it is possible. You can look and ask for help ... They love it. Let's see what comes out. But you have to wait. You need to find, contact, and then write. It's not just one day.
            1. KVU-NSVD April 21 2020 12: 52 New
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              Quote: kalibr
              going to wait. You need to find, contact, and then write. It's not just one day.

              Let's wait. Waiting enhances pleasure winked
            2. Undecim April 22 2020 21: 45 New
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              Whitworth has a much more significant achievement than drilling trunks, including for military equipment, which is used today.
        2. Undecim April 21 2020 13: 18 New
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          And so it spins. This is a Whitworth polygon drill. A hexagonal shell slides inside a twisted barrel. And flying, by inertia continues to make revolutions around its axis.
          Sorry, Vyacheslav Olegovich, but the trunk is not twisted. They cut it like that. And the shell is not hexagonal.
          1. kalibr April 21 2020 13: 46 New
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            Well, he's twisted inside, not straight. "Twist" is what I put it. The shell is not hexagonal ... But I look and I see six faces ... I look in glasses ...
            1. Undecim April 21 2020 13: 59 New
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              It's not about glasses, Vyacheslav Olegovich! Glasses are an outstanding invention of civilization, but they do not have independent significance in terms of basic knowledge.
              The projectile is polygonal.
              1. kalibr April 21 2020 16: 34 New
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                In Whitworth's version, the cut was hexagonal, that is, in cross section it was a hexagon [1- Wikipedia
                1. Undecim April 21 2020 16: 55 New
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                  In the cross section of the corners you may not see it.
          2. Shadow April 21 2020 14: 35 New
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            The manufacturability of the projectile is clearly not up to par.
            1. kalibr April 21 2020 16: 27 New
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              If you saw it across it will have six faces! Is not it?
          3. Antifreeze 2 May 2020 18: 23 New
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            I did such bullets for ignition in childhood. Drawn a groove with a file repeat
  2. rich April 21 2020 06: 11 New
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    This is a 150 mm heavy field howitzer arr. 1918 (German 15 cm sFH 18; from German schwere Feldhaubitze - heavy field howitzer) - German heavy field howitzer of 150 mm caliber from World War II. The number 18 indicates the date of development and adoption, but it is fictitious (the Treaty of Versailles of Germany prohibited the development of artillery systems, and the number 18 was added to mislead foreign commissions) .. The troops received the nickname "Evergreen" (German Immergrün).
    TTH:
    Caliber mm 149,1
    Instances 5403
    Rate of fire, rds / min 4
    Muzzle velocity, m / s 210-512 (15 cm Gr. 19)
    Maximum range, m from 4000 (charge No. 1, 210 m / s)
    up to 13 325 (charge No. 8, 520 m / s)
    Trunk
    Barrel length, mm / klb 4440 (29,5)
    Weight
    Weight in combat position, kg 5530
    Dimensions in the traveling position
    Length, mm 7849 (marching, mechtyaga)
    Width, mm 2255
    Height, mm 1707 (marching, mechtyaga)
    Firing angles
    HV angle, degrees −3 ° - + 45 °
    GN angle, degrees ± 28 °
    149 mm × 260 R (separate-shell loading):
    Shells
    15 cm Gr. 19 (high-explosive fragmentation grenade),
    15 cm Gr. 36 stg (PF),
    15 cm Gr. 19 Be (concrete projectile),
    15 cm Gr. 19 Nb (smoke projectile),
    15 cm Gr. 38 Nb (smoke projectile),
    15 cm Gr. 39 Hl / A (cumulative projectile),
    15 cm Gr. 39 Hl / B (cumulative projectile),
    15 cm R.Gr. 19 (active rocket),
    15 cm Sprgr. 42 (HE projectile projectile with a pallet),
    15 cm Pzgr. 39 TS (armor-piercing subcaliber, with a pallet).
    After the Wehrmacht collided with the Red Army, an insufficient firing range was revealed: the Soviet 152-mm howitzer gun ML-20 fired at 17 m, and sFH 300 - only at 18 m. The acuteness of the problem was removed by the fact that several hundred serviceable Soviet ML-13 guns with ten ammunition for each gun were captured on June 325-20, 23 near Baranavichy. The gun was adopted by the Wehrmacht as a 24 cm KH.1941 / 15,2 (r) howitzer gun and was actively used in battles against the Red Army. Since February 433, the Germans even launched mass production of shells for this weapon.
    In general, the sFH 18 heavy field howitzer was a typical German gun designed in the interwar period: a reliable, robust construction, with not very outstanding, but quite satisfactory tactical and technical characteristics.
    1. mr.ZinGer April 21 2020 07: 20 New
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      It is strange that with such a barrel length, such a small range compared to the ML-20.
      1. rich April 21 2020 07: 45 New
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        The photograph in the museum was most likely taken with a wide-angle lens.
        Barrel length, mm / klb 4440 (29,5). (the ML-20 is slightly smaller - mm / klb-4240 / 27,8)
        in this photo 15 cm sFH 18 looks more realistic
        1. Undecim April 21 2020 11: 06 New
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          This is a 150 mm heavy field howitzer arr. 1918 (German 15 cm sFH 18; from German schwere Feldhaubitze - heavy field howitzer)
          This is not a 15 cm sFH 18 howitzer and its barrel is of the correct length and the lens was normal.
          This is cañón 150/55 Rheinmetall.

          In fact, this is 17 cm K 18 in MrsLaf, the drawings of which in 1944 were provided to the Spaniards for the purpose of production. The Spaniards released 24 copies, but in the caliber 150 mm. In the absence of tractors, they were no longer let out.
          1. rich April 21 2020 11: 55 New
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            You're right hi
            In my defense, I can only visit the views of museum photos, which did not allow me to see the unique silhouette of the mortar carriage of the German hull gun 17 cm K 18 in MrsLaf,

            Essentially cañón 150/55 Rheinmetall. this is 17 cm K 18 in MrsLaf, drawings of which in 1944 were provided to the Spaniards for the purpose of production. The Spaniards released 24 copies, but in the caliber 150 mm. In the absence of tractors, they were no longer let out.

            I just didn’t know such subtleties. Thank you very much
            1. Undecim April 21 2020 12: 09 New
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              From this angle, you can see better.
              1. Undecim April 21 2020 12: 12 New
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                But best of all from here.
  3. rich April 21 2020 06: 13 New
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    Thanks to the author for the article. The illustrations are just lovely.
  4. Kote Pan Kokhanka April 21 2020 07: 57 New
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    Great tour!
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, the question will be raised for you to raise funds from the observers of the VO site?
    Sincerely, good day to all!
    1. 3x3zsave April 21 2020 08: 07 New
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      Vlad! hi
      I think if they don’t cut off the fees, it will already be good. Carefully re-read the article dedicated to the anniversary of the site, I got the impression that it is a matter of "monetizing" the resource.
      1. kalibr April 21 2020 08: 43 New
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        Anton, there is a popular site where people pay for comments! And nothing, their number is not decreasing.
        1. 3x3zsave April 21 2020 08: 54 New
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          You are undoubtedly right! But the segment of foreign commentators will thinn a lot. How, for example, Viktor Nikolaevich will be able to pay for the subscription?
          1. kalibr April 21 2020 08: 57 New
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            Quote: 3x3zsave
            But the segment of foreign commentators will thinn a lot.

            There is a law of large numbers, verified by site analytics. It is not difficult to calculate, but how much is profitable. Ours, VikNick is the only one, by the way. And a few more ... less active. The weather does not.
            1. 3x3zsave April 21 2020 09: 01 New
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              The weather does not.
              Abstracting for the resource - yes.
              And personally, I will lose live communication with many smart people.
              1. kalibr April 21 2020 09: 04 New
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                Anton, of course, what matters to you personally and what matters to many people is a big difference. Often sad, but the “common good” is always chosen, right?
                1. 3x3zsave April 21 2020 09: 08 New
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                  Of course. To paraphrase Tolstoy: all happy people are equally happy, each unhappy is unhappy in his own way.
                  1. kalibr April 21 2020 09: 09 New
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                    Quote: 3x3zsave
                    Of course. To paraphrase Tolstoy: all happy people are equally happy, each unhappy is unhappy in his own way.

                    Exactly!
    2. Krasnodar April 21 2020 08: 42 New
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      Greetings, Vlad! hi
      Do you think VCheslpv Olegovich will answer this question for you?
    3. kalibr April 21 2020 08: 44 New
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      In my opinion, Vladislav, it is not entirely correct to ask such a question to me when the site has its administration.
    4. Nikolaevich I April 21 2020 10: 03 New
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      Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
      and you will be distributed fundraising from the observers of the site?

      By the way .... about the "birds"! On the very first day of the "nationwide fundraising" I transferred a certain amount via Yandex.Money using the form proposed by the site. But in this form, it was surprising that at the beginning of the wallet number Y.D. , in my opinion, there was no "four" ... and later, I did not receive an electronic check for "e-mail" ... The amount was debited! The second time the listing has passed, as expected! Who has this kind of garbage happened when transferring the amount to the VO wallet through Yandex.Money?
    5. Trilobite Master April 21 2020 13: 29 New
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      Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Vyacheslav Olegovich, the question will be raised for you to raise funds from the observers of the VO site?

      The answer, I think, is here.
      in order to develop and improve content in military-technical, military-political, geopolitical and other important topics, you can’t do without support

      The historical section is not included in the list of administration priorities, unfortunately.
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka April 21 2020 18: 11 New
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        I’m talking about the same Michael!
        At VO There are a number of authors whom I am ready to read for money! I appreciate communicating with them and dare to admit I am proud that I occasionally am in correspondence with them.
        Alas, there is another side and other Authors that I will not read, even if they pay me !!!
        Essentially, I’m ready to pay for an address subscription for specific topics and specific people !!! Let it look cynical, but I’m not ready to “slurp amendment packages,” as in changing our Constitution !!!
        Regards, Everyone!
        R.s. I apologize in advance if I offended anyone !!!
        1. Phil77 April 21 2020 18: 59 New
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          I greet you, dear Vlad! Perhaps it was still a one-time action to raise money and not everything is so gloomy? For ... For as in a song of one of my favorite groups: -
          * And do not rush to bury us
          and we still have things to do here .... *. We hope and believe! Everything will be fine! good
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka April 21 2020 19: 23 New
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            God forbid Sergey, God forbid !!!
          2. 3x3zsave April 21 2020 19: 46 New
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            How I love you, optimists! laughing
            1. kalibr April 21 2020 21: 04 New
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              The most interesting thing, Anton, that somewhere in 2000 I read one interesting study, which one-on-one predicted the current situation and the growth of extreme nationalism due to promising crises and diseases. This whole century will pass under their flag! And I see that it was a good foresight. Well, that managed to ride ...
        2. Trilobite Master April 21 2020 20: 57 New
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          Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Essentially, I'm ready to pay for an address subscription.

          Vlad, how is it? smile
          Here you have two hundred rubles for Vashchenko, Ryzhov, Fedorov, Sherzad and Shpakovsky, two hundred rubles for everyone else, such as Bubalik, Pana Kokhanku, the Master Trilobit and others, such as, for example, our universal favorite Anton, who promises to publish his own for over a year works, if any of them want to occasionally mark publications? And two hundred rubles to Samsonov personally, so as not to write at all? laughing
          I think it won’t work out that way. smile
          At least simply because nobody will allow you to control how these funds will be spent (which is absolutely correct), and also because the administration of the resource adheres to its own priorities in the editorial policy (to which it has full right), often not similar to the priorities of users.
          So ...
          We either sit on the appropriate authority exactly and wait for it to end, or ... wrinkle our foreheads during the quarantine period and provide the site with our own content at no cost as a thank you for the opportunity we have to communicate here. I am now without irony and glum. Almost every one of us can write a little material on a topic that interests him and, I think, we will be happy to discuss all this here. I’m even ready to bite my tongue in relation to novice authors and limit myself to exceptionally benevolent criticism without harsh expressions. smile
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka April 21 2020 21: 41 New
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            Michael the beginning of the comment, straight to the soul!
            True, a couple of respected Authors are worth adding.
            Remaining clumsy prose of life.
            Although, as a consumer, I don’t see the need to pay for a number of individuals, at least because of personal hostility !!!
          2. kalibr April 21 2020 22: 22 New
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            And so there are "custom articles", by the way ...
          3. 3x3zsave April 22 2020 08: 02 New
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            Michael! hi
            As a paid option, they usually make it possible to comment on materials, as happened about 5 years ago on the "mail".
            1. Trilobite Master April 22 2020 13: 26 New
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              Quote: 3x3zsave
              A paid option is usually make it possible to comment on materials

              I understand it. I, like Vlad, like many here, am ready to support the publication, but exclusively targeted to specific authors. At the same time, I think we all understand that this is impossible in principle, and in this situation is compounded by the fact that the leadership of the publication considers the historical section to be something like an appendix that they tolerate while it does not interfere. smile
              I don’t want to sponsor “Opinions” or “Analyst” at all and I am not interested in developing Samsonov’s creative ideas on “History” either. At the same time, I have every reason to believe that the leadership of VO will give priority to precisely these areas. Therefore, with the money - I pass.
          4. bubalik April 22 2020 14: 43 New
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            our universal favorite Anton, who promises to publish his own works for more than a year,
            ... yeah, in the "tank" and "dynamite" closed, then he has no illustrations, then time laughing phylonite wassat
            1. Phil77 April 22 2020 18: 51 New
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              This is called a creative search! laughing Give the master time! wink
              1. bubalik April 22 2020 18: 55 New
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                ,,, started a series wink not otherwise interesting on what topic recourseat least hinted to us to be in all arms bully
                1. Phil77 April 22 2020 19: 01 New
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                  He and Konstantin had an interesting dialogue about science fiction not so long ago. Maybe on this subject? Co-authored? fellow
                  1. bubalik April 22 2020 19: 36 New
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                    ,,, looking forward to yes
                    1. Phil77 April 22 2020 20: 01 New
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                      Quote: bubalik
                      ,,, looking forward to

                      * .... Just think, I can also embroider ... and on a typewriter, too ... * laughing
                  2. 3x3zsave April 22 2020 19: 50 New
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                    Haha! Haha! I, in due time, was enough.
                2. 3x3zsave April 22 2020 19: 47 New
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                  Yes Easy!!! Topic: "When did the Middle Ages end?"
                  1. bubalik April 22 2020 19: 50 New
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                    ,,, checkmate, Anton, killed laughing i pass crying
                    1. 3x3zsave April 22 2020 19: 59 New
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                      Yeah, here I am about the same. Shpakovsky and Ryzhov set such a level of illustration quality that I want to cry.
                  2. bubalik April 22 2020 20: 12 New
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                    When ended

                    request but wink
                    ,,, the time comes for a new Middle Ages. ... a new Middle Ages, but with the Internet sad
                    1. 3x3zsave April 22 2020 20: 21 New
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                      No, Sergey! There comes another time. Read Gibson, Sterling and Kurzweil.
              2. 3x3zsave April 22 2020 19: 46 New
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                Thank you, Sergey!
            2. 3x3zsave April 22 2020 19: 44 New
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              No question at all, Sergey! Want to send the text? Pick up the pictures, "accomplice" ... Khhmmm .. to blame, you’ll go as a co-author!
  5. 3x3zsave April 21 2020 08: 10 New
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    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    The first photo is an amazing, early morning in Cartagena!
    1. kalibr April 21 2020 08: 42 New
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      I liked it too. Sorry I'm not the author ...
      1. 3x3zsave April 21 2020 19: 41 New
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        Do not regret, Vyacheslav Olegovich! You have another path. As an alternative, I can suggest that you go to Saratov in June, get up to Sokolovaya Gora at five in the morning and capture the dawn over the Volga!
        I saw, no worse than the sunset in Barcelona.
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          * And here is the sun and the city as new
          He seems doubly younger in the morning
          and a crane wedge from Sokolova Mountain
          soared and soars in the sky ... * Biktashov E.
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            I didn’t see cranes there, but Saratov from Sokolovaya Gora is magnificent! Anyway, handsome!
            1. Phil77 April 21 2020 20: 20 New
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              Willingly believe Anton!
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                No need to believe, worth a visit!
                Sergey, the love of the city is captured in the moments of involvement in this city, at that moment when you felt good in it.
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          I have been to Saratov many times, Anton, and even lived there for a month, if not more, somehow, being at the university there for retraining. He even prepared a PR-project for a museum there, or rather an art gallery. And on the mountain was ... And bathed on an island in the middle of the Volga. I filmed the garbage there ugly ... I did not think about the dawn.
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          ,,, I'm afraid until July they’ll take off, you know what, crying
          1. 3x3zsave April 22 2020 20: 27 New
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            An inquiring mind will always find a loophole.
            Sirech: "There will always be a quest for the adventure maniac!"
  6. Undecim April 21 2020 11: 22 New
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    Also a 152 mm gun, but already by Armstrong
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, this is a Vickers gun, the name of which is “carved” on the shutter, the photo of which you have placed below.
    This is one of the guns of the Batería de La Parajola coastal battery. The guns were made in Spain under license.

    This is how the battery looked until 1994. when it was dismantled.
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      6. Without our "forty-five" no military museum in Spain is simply impossible!
      This is not our ours. This gun, which was produced in Spain at the Placencia de las Armas and is a copy of the 45 mm tank gun of the 1932 model on a Spanish carriage.
      It was produced long enough. This one was assembled in 1945.
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        But in this museum there is "ours" - the 45-mm anti-tank gun of the 1937 model.
  7. Aviator_ April 21 2020 12: 57 New
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    [quote] 9. Coastal 150-mm gun from the forts of Cartagena. The end of the XIX century. In appearance - just a monster! [/ Quote
    How does it differ from the Armstrong gun of the time of the Boer War in Pretoria?
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      How does it differ from the Armstrong gun of the time of the Boer War in Pretoria?
      I think in caliber. This one is very similar to the 4,7-in QF.
  8. Trilobite Master April 21 2020 13: 33 New
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    Thanks to the author for the article, entertaining and useful. Thanks also to the commentators. Indeed, a good company has gathered here, it will be a pity if (or when) it all ends, and besides, it seems to be going on. sad
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      Quote: Trilobite Master
      everything will end, and besides, it seems to be going.

      Cross your fingers!
    2. 3x3zsave April 21 2020 18: 04 New
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      Well, let’s say, it will not make me sick, to give a mower a month for a subscription, I won’t even notice, but what about pensioners, especially in the periphery, and citizens of other states.
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        Now support calls are hanging on many sites!
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        citizens of other states
        Maybe some as an exception will be allowed at no cost?
        By the way, technically payment is possible through a bank card.
        True, there are several interesting nuances. In theory, who paid for his stay on the site has certain rights and it’s kind of more careful to kick and ban him. Or is this not our method?
        1. The comment was deleted.
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          the idea that paid for his stay on the site has certain rights and it’s kind of careful to kick and ban him.
          ,,, Well then, everything will depend on the financial component of the commentator. They will introduce more bags to shoulder straps and straps what (bronze, silver, gold, who will pay how much) laughing They will blow away dust from diamond bully
          1. Undecim April 21 2020 23: 52 New
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            I wonder what kind of comment was deleted?
            Do you think that the size of the rights will be determined by the size of the contribution and for the corresponding amount it will even be possible to use some idioms that are currently unacceptable?
            But is it segregation?
            1. bubalik April 22 2020 00: 01 New
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              Interesting what kind of comment
              ,, I accidentally left empty yes
              the size of the rights will be determined by the size of the contribution and for the corresponding amount
              ,,, perhaps, but then the site will have to radically change its rules.
              Or the price appears: ,,,p.1.2 one matte word in the comment is 10 p. ,, example laughing
              1. Undecim April 22 2020 00: 05 New
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                Samsonov's articles will collect a serious box office. Orthodox Christians from Marxism and Bulk-crunches in the heat of another srach will go around the world.
                1. 3x3zsave April 22 2020 07: 35 New
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                  Hello, Victor Nikolaevich!
                  I feel myself present at the birth of a new genre of "science fiction within a single online publication."
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                  And what about his today's article in the "why" genre? Yeah ... that's cool. I need to find my article in Penza Truth by May 1, 1984, and post it. Someone will run snot and tears of tenderness.
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                    Someone will run snot and tears of tenderness.
                    You will be thrown stones, Vyacheslav Olegovich. Here are all those who, in snot and tears, will shower.
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                      Victor Nikolaevich! So after all, 80% and 20%, so I'm not surprised. But let them throw, most importantly, clicks.
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                Sergey! I don’t know about the mat, but! Today I wanted to send two fresh jokes to Konstantin in PM, and ... It didn’t work out! because they contained a word analogous to the love between a man and a woman. Not a curse! But quite a cultural one. By golly! laughing laughing laughing
  9. Liam April 21 2020 13: 55 New
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    The city was founded around 228 BC by the brother of the great Hannibal Hasdrubal, the son of Hamilkar Barki

    The founder of the city, Hasdrubal, was not the son of Barki and the brother of Hannibal; he was the husband of Hamilcar's daughter, son-in-law.
    1. Undecim April 21 2020 15: 36 New
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      Yes, here the author got a little confused in Hasdrubala. Cartagena was founded not by Hasdrubal Barkid, the son of Hamilcar Barki, but by Hasdrubal the Beautiful - the son-in-law of Hamilcar Barki.
  10. Shadow April 21 2020 14: 51 New
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    Is it some kind of MLRS next to the tank?
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      Is it some kind of MLRS next to the tank?
      Yes, this is the Spanish post-war PU L-21.

      This is on the chassis of the Barreiros Panther III. Shells modifications E2 and E3, caliber 216 mm.