Forecasts: new OPEC + deal will not save oil markets

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It seems that in countries whose economies are most closely tied to energy exports, primarily in Russia, it was too early to draw a conclusion on the agreement concluded by OPEC + countries on an unprecedented reduction in the production of “black gold”. Contrary to expectations and hopes that in this way stabilization of prices in the global oil market will be achieved, practice shows very different trends. Because of this, negative assessments of the further development of the situation sound more and more often, leaving no room for optimism.

Analysts from the reputable business publication Financial Times made one of these forecasts, expressing serious doubts that the agreement reached the other day could play the role of a "lifeline" for the oil industry that is rapidly sinking. According to them, a vicious vicious circle has formed in the markets, which oil exporters are simply not able to break out of. The main obstacle to stopping a further fall, and subsequently everyone’s expected increase in hydrocarbon prices, is an unprecedented surplus of raw materials resulting from a record drop in demand caused by the COVID-19 pandemic.



There is every reason to conclude that the current decline in world oil consumption by 30% is not yet the “bottom”, starting from which, the industry will be able to start moving to higher prices. The overfilling of oil storage tanks, already practically achieved in most countries, will continue to push exporters to sell “black gold” at low prices, thereby spinning the dumping wheel.

The Financial Times is inclined to believe that countries today are unacceptably delaying production cuts (recall that, according to the agreements reached, it is planned for the end of April - beginning of May) in the future, it will be necessary to take a break - that is, generally stop their drilling rigs due oil storage overflows.

It will be possible to speak of any recovery in the markets, and, consequently, an increase in energy prices, only after humanity, having passed the peak of the pandemic, begins to restore active economic activity. First, the accumulated excess reserves will be used up, and then a new demand for oil will arise, which will form its real, not “coronavirus” cost. A recent deal in this aspect has a meaning and a sense of a rather psychological nature. Perhaps its participants will continue to refrain from too abrupt movements, ill-conceived market interventions and trade wars.

It should be understood that a pandemic that has caused enormous damage to the global economy is still not a global thermonuclear war or a natural cataclysm of planetary proportions. To say that long after the decline in the outbreak of this disease oil prices remain at their current, completely inadequate level would be a great exaggeration. Sooner or later, the world will return to normal life and begin to consume energy resources on a familiar scale. Then, market participants will have to build relationships in a new way, it is extremely desirable with greater understanding and respect for each other than before the crisis.

However, all this is a matter of the future. I would like to believe that it’s not too far away ... For the time being, alas, pessimistic forecasts are being justified. In the evening of April 14, oil began to fall on world stock exchanges, for the first time since the last transaction of OPEC + fell below $ 30. The price of the Brent brand fell during the auction by 5,7% to $ 29,93 per barrel, WTI - by 6,83% to $ 20,88 per barrel (20 hours Moscow time). By the way, things are even more sad in the USA: there, for example, CLc1 oil from the US West Texas Intermediate (WTI) fell to $ 20,11 per barrel after statements were made that by mid-May the state had “black gold” in the state I will be filled to capacity.

In this case, it seems, it remains only to be patient and hope that the crisis will be overcome as soon as possible.
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  1. -21
    April 15 2020 06: 22
    Financial Times publications expressing serious doubts that the agreements reached the other day can play the role of a "lifeline" for the oil industry, which is rapidly sinking to the bottom. According to them, a vicious vicious circle has formed in the markets, which oil exporters are simply not able to break out of.
    Yes, this applies to everyone. But sheikhs have a budget of 90-100% of oil. The United States with its slate, let it roll to the very bottom, the deepest gorge. And we will winter, summer is ahead, the market will still sag. Only the development of chemical processing can help us.
    1. +13
      April 15 2020 06: 51
      By the way, things are even more sad in the USA: there, for example, CLc1 oil from the American West Texas Intermediate (WTI) fell to $ 20,11 per barrel


      This is sad only for US oil companies. The price of gas is now 38 cents per gallon or 28 rubles
      1. +33
        April 15 2020 07: 07
        28 gasoline costs because of the crisis ... This is our great victory. So they need it, damned capitalists.
        1. +13
          April 15 2020 09: 52
          Quote: DMB 75
          This is our great victory. And they need it, damned capitalists.

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          "Victory" is as follows:
          1) Nobody is going to limit any production. The Saudis will pour out US surpluses in exchange for arms. Russian companies will simply download what is and pretend that nothing happened. Of course, they will be caught later by checking the export statistics, but it will be later.
          2) The oil war is not over, the Saudis will continue to "finish off" Putin by dumping and biting off new markets where they were not previously present.
          3) Trump took on the role of an arbiter, and maybe even a gendarme, and did not commit himself to any obligations in this "oil battle". The fact that some shale will die there is no longer important, because the rates have long since increased and the oil and gas battle has begun for Europe and China, the last rich markets.
          1. +12
            April 15 2020 10: 04
            Quote: Altona
            The oil war is not over, the Saudis will continue to "finish off" Putin by dumping and biting off new markets where they were not previously present.


            Saudi Arabian oil company Saudi Aramco has published data on prices for its oil in May 2020, according to Bloomberg.
            According to their data, May prices for Asian countries were reduced by $ 2,95 - $ 5,5 per barrel. At the same time, the price of oil supplies to the United States increased by $ 2,50 - $ 4,2 per barrel. The cost of delivering Saudi oil to Europe has remained the same.
            1. +5
              April 15 2020 10: 17
              Quote: Overlock
              Saudi Arabian oil company Saudi Aramco has published data on prices for its oil in May 2020, according to Bloomberg.
              According to their data, May prices for Asian countries were reduced by $ 2,95 - $ 5,5 per barrel. At the same time, the price of oil supplies to the United States increased by $ 2,50 - $ 4,2 per barrel. The cost of delivering Saudi oil to Europe has remained the same.

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              It was from this that I made my conclusion. The price of oil for the US market is important for American companies, but they also do not want to go into negative profitability.
      2. +13
        April 15 2020 08: 58
        Now about one dollar per gallon is 72 / 3.8 = 19 rubles per liter.
      3. +3
        April 15 2020 19: 39
        2005 - the USA produces 32 billion cubic meters. shale gas. It's like france consumption
        ...
        2009 - the United States produces 104 billion cubic meters of shale gas. This is like Canada's consumption.
        ...
        2010 year. Miller calls shale gas “foie gras for the market.” I will quote further: “So the conditions for
        so that by the end of the year, shale gas shows new records, no longer exists ”
        The USA produces 155 billion cubic meters. shale gas. At that time, this is more than China's consumption.
        ...
        2011. Miller: “Shale gas is a well-planned world PR campaign, there are many such PR campaigns:
        global cooling, biofuel. ”
        The USA produces 228 billion cubic meters of shale gas. This is about half of Gazprom’s production.
        ...
        year 2012. Miller: “The volume of gas production at the Bovanenkovskoye field [115 billion cubic meters] in the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug is comparable
        with cumulative shale gas production in the USA ”
        The USA produces 287 billion cubic meters of shale gas. This is about 65% of Gazprom’s production and Russian consumption.
        ...
        year 2013. Miller: “Shale gas is generally a bubble that will burst anyway in the near future.”
        The USA produces 325 billion cubic meters of shale gas. This is about 75% of Gazprom’s production and Russian consumption.
        ...
        year 2014. Miller: “Shale gas production is squeezing water out of stone”
        USA produces 377 billion cubic meters shale gas. This is 85% of Gazprom’s production.
        ...
        2015 year. Miller: “The shale revolution has gone into the 'dead underground'”
        Shale gas production in the United States has exceeded Gazprom's production from the "deep underground".
        ...
        2016 year. Miller made no statements on shale gas.
        Launch of the first phase of the first LNG plant with permission to export from the United States.
        Currently, several dozen tankers have already delivered liquefied natural gas to different regions of the world.
        ...
        2020 year. European countries continue to dramatically increase their purchases of liquefied natural gas. According to the results of January, LNG imports reached 10 billion cubic meters and for the first time in history it was equal to supplies from Gazprom, follows from the data of the monthly “Monitoring” of the Skolkovo school.
    2. +22
      April 15 2020 07: 16
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      And we will winter, summer is ahead, the market will still sag.

      I dream of a time when oil will cost -10 $ per barrel. What would these stupid leeches sucked to the pipe rested from hunger. Otherwise, Russia will not get rid of parasites for a very long time.
      1. +24
        April 15 2020 07: 58
        In general, I support your thesis, but the reality is that these stupid leeches will justify once or twice the need to provide them with support from the budget for a couple of tens of billions, and this is their huge "managerial" talent. If you don't believe me, remember about bookmakers, which have suddenly become backbone enterprises, someone pushes it through and does not blush.
      2. +16
        April 15 2020 08: 18
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        I dream of a time when oil will cost -10 $ per barrel. What would these stupid leeches sucked to the pipe rested from hunger.

        There is a fundamental problem here - these leeches are in power and property. So here everything will be more likely according to the well-known anecdote - "Daddy means you will drink less? No sonny, it means you will eat less" .......
        That is, not these leeches will die of hunger, but you and I.
        Another thing is that the capitalist RF has consistently degraded for all 30 years (and high oil prices could only act as anesthesia), so that even at a price of $ 20 a barrel cannot last 2 years. There is simply not enough money for oligarchs, officials, payments to punitive bodies protecting power from the people, regional barons, judges, information prostitutes, etc.
        But here there is a problem - how to ensure its interception by creative forces during the collapse of power?
        1. +12
          April 15 2020 08: 53
          Quote: Odyssey
          But here there is a problem - how to ensure its interception by creative forces during the collapse of power?

          Seriously?
          Do you think that power can simply take - and fall apart?
          And you just have to substitute your hands - oops! - and the power is already in them, the "creative forces" triumph.
          Alas, world history teaches another - no one will just give up power.
          Victory is achieved by struggle.
          Otherwise, it’s just a change of one thief to another.
          Dialectics.
          Karl Marx and Lenin declared this and put it into practice.
          1. +13
            April 15 2020 09: 21
            Quote: Paul Siebert
            Alas, world history teaches another - no one will just give up power.
            Victory is achieved by struggle.

            You as Danko tore out your heart and carried it to people. That’s glorious - you will be our leader smile
            Seriously, you wrote everything correctly, but I did not write about the general theory, but about our concrete practice in life. And I didn’t write about the fact that the power itself will fall to someone, I just designated the seizure of power like a problem . As for our practice.
            1) Now no one has the opportunity to legally fight for power. Only more pro-Western forces have the opportunity to be a semi-legal but influential opposition than our government.
            2) You can always fight illegally, but in practice the whole repressive and propaganda apparatus of the oligarchic state will be against you. Experience of Kvachkov, NBP, Udaltsov, etc. clearly shows how it works.
            3) Of course, our government itself is not interested in its own disappearance, for one but sufficient reason, they do not have reliable alternate aerodromes.
            4) But Putin and K will not be able to maintain power in a single state with prolonged low oil prices either. How long will Kadyrov be a fiery patriot if they stop paying him tribute?
            5) In practice, the dismantling of the central government, if it happens, will look exactly like a collapse, everything will be fast, incomprehensible to ordinary people, and will resemble the situation from August to December 1991.
            1. +6
              April 15 2020 09: 45
              Quote: Odyssey
              In practice, the dismantling of the central government, if it happens, will look exactly like a collapse, everything will be fast, incomprehensible to ordinary people, and will resemble the situation from August to December 1991.

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              In general, I agree with your theses. Other groups that have money and media influence will be demolished. They can buy the military, they will put social rhetoric in the mouth of Alexei Navalny and Mikhail Khodorkovsky. Rather, they have already invested. Financial capital doesn’t matter who feed Putin or Navalny. Communists and nationalist industrialists in this field are single artisans.
            2. +5
              April 15 2020 10: 07
              Quote: Odyssey
              In practice, the dismantling of the central government, if it happens, will look exactly like a collapse, everything will be fast, incomprehensible to ordinary people, and will resemble the situation from August to December 1991.

              God forbid!
              Our country will not survive another such nightmare.
              So, based on your five postulates, we have nothing to hope for and nothing for?
              Sorry to sit and wait for the inevitable like a wise Chinese monkey on a tree?
              1. +6
                April 15 2020 13: 22
                Quote: Paul Siebert
                So, based on your five postulates, we have nothing to hope for and nothing for?
                Sorry to sit and wait for the inevitable like a wise Chinese monkey on a tree?

                Well, even when you eat you have two options))
                Yes, the situation in content is quickly approaching 1917 or the beginning of the 17th century (Troubles). Moreover, if at that time there were strong external reasons for the collapse of the state, now the authorities can only cope on their own, demonstrating that for Russia they are worse than the world war.
                As for what needs to be done ... In my opinion
                1) Support the reasonable steps of even a weak systemic opposition in the person of the Communist Party. Yes, they are, of course, opportunists controlled by AP and so on, but the stronger they are, the more chances there are for seizing power by forces aimed at least to preserve and strengthen independent Russia. But only their reasonable steps, and not all.
                2) Strive for self-organization at all levels. Including relations with officials and especially with the military. Many of them, especially at the regional level, are not at all interested in the liquidation of a single state. Yes, now they are not capable of active speeches, but at a critical moment of the general collapse they may well play their part.
                3) In general, you need to have structures ready for action at a critical moment. The same Bolsheviks were able to build up their potential very quickly after February 17th precisely because they had a ready-made and capable structure with active and very diverse people.
                PS We still have a small reserve of time. For example, I think that this year the authorities will keep the situation. Poverty will be blamed on the coronavirus, unorganized riots if they suppress them. Even their "zeroing" will be carried out. Plus, they will try to wriggle out by all means. For example, they may not fulfill the agreement on oil. And exporting unaccounted oil to China is cheap, of course, but at least the wells won't have to be shut down.
            3. +15
              April 15 2020 10: 17
              Quote: Odyssey
              As for our practice.

              they said everything correctly. Dismantling will initially begin as a spontaneous process, on the ground, but then it will be headed by those who believe that they have been deprived and who have a financial reserve. It is far from the idea that heroes of the labor of the Rotenberg type are beloved by everyone in the encumbrance of their kind. It is those who are dissatisfied that they will begin dismantling, especially since many provinces are simply assigned to various corporations. However, even they understand that they need a STATE, since they are interesting with the stolen West only as cash cows, which can be easily expropriated. Where are the billions of Gaddafi, where is the money of the Marcos family? In our story, even Nicholas II, an English relative refused to evacuate!
              1. +7
                April 15 2020 10: 45
                Quote: Overlock
                In our story, even Nicholas II, an English relative refused to evacuate!

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                He gracefully twisted himself, saying that he didn’t mind that way, but his freedom-loving people hated Nicolas so much that he could not vouch for his safety. Allegedly, still going ashore from the ship, raging crowds of marginals will tear it to rags.
      3. +6
        April 15 2020 08: 30
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        What would these stupid leeches sucked to the pipe rested from hunger. Otherwise, Russia will not get rid of parasites for a very long time.
        That is, the plan to save from parasites is to sit, do nothing and wait until the parasites themselves die? Great plan, 10/10 easy.
        1. +4
          April 15 2020 08: 37
          Quote: military_cat
          Great plan, 10/10 easy.

          Do you have a plan?
          1. +5
            April 15 2020 08: 45
            It is impossible to help anyone against his will. Instead of personal interests, fellow citizens prefer geopolitical confrontation and rallying in a besieged fortress around a national leader - with a blind eye to his law-abiding attitude. I respect their right to choose.
          2. +10
            April 15 2020 10: 21
            Quote: Alexey Sommer
            Do you have a plan?

            the lack of a plan is also a plan. At this stage, planning is impossible because there is no critical mass. In March, 63% generally endorsed Putin’s activity as head of state (Levada), although only 16% of them think that the head of state cares about the interests of the common people. It is clear that revolutions take place at the top, using the masses as the driving forces. But there is no driving force yet request
      4. +6
        April 15 2020 08: 59
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        I dream of a time when oil will cost -10 $ per barrel. What would these stupid leeches sucked to the pipe rested from hunger.

        I’m afraid that, first of all, the country's population will die of starvation .. in this case .. In general, yes, it was necessary to do something 20 years ago depending on hydrocarbon prices .. But that’s the essence of today's managers, oil can not create anything ..
      5. +4
        April 15 2020 09: 00
        They will not rest .... most likely we (the people). We will go around the world.
      6. +9
        April 15 2020 09: 13
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        I dream of a time when oil will cost -10 $ per barrel. What would these stupid leeches sucked to the pipe rested from hunger. Otherwise, Russia will not get rid of parasites for a very long time.

        The whole growth is that the government, which privatized the bowels of the country, will calmly survive any crisis, completely calmly and without denying itself to anything, But the taciturn-patient people will also quietly silently die out.
        1. +11
          April 15 2020 10: 24
          Quote: Malyuta
          But the silently-patient people will also quietly silently die out.

          we will see. It’s too early to predict. Autumn will show. The longer self-isolation, the greater the financial insolvency of the population. Attacks on citizens with food bags have already begun
          1. +6
            April 15 2020 10: 32
            Quote: Overlock
            Autumn will show. The longer self-isolation, the greater the financial insolvency of the population. Attacks on citizens with food bags have already begun

            All this to the question that 90 did not go anywhere.
      7. +2
        April 15 2020 09: 13
        Alexey! $ 10 / barrel could take place if the quarantines last all summer. As long as planes are not flying, cars are not driving, the demand for oil will remain at a low level, even if you crack, even (OPEC) ^ n, even Trump, even Putin. The revival in the PRC due to the abolition of quarantines will help the case a little. because the main consumers of gasoline / kerosene were the USA and Europe. And Russia will be cleansed about leeches - that's right, you're right, but here's the thing. It turned out that no matter how you scold our current government, it turned out that in the winter, out of season, about 1 million Russians ended up abroad in the bulk for entertainment purposes. This testifies to their prosperity. Not all of them are "leeches" - but there are many of them. who will raise a howl in the style of (Ah, my dear Augustine ...) and will begin to provoke the people who are already having a hard time. but it will be even worse. And what to do with it?
        1. +7
          April 15 2020 09: 47
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          and they will begin to provoke a people who are already hard to do. but it will be even worse. And what to do with it?

          The people will provoke the actions of the authorities and no one else. A completely mediocre policy, both internal and external over 20 years, has led to disastrous results and in reality the situation will really be even worse. Here is the reason, all the rest of the consequence, accordingly, the reason must be removed. hi
          1. +2
            April 15 2020 10: 07
            Malyuta! I'm just writing about what happened in the middle of winter. when all decent people work, in Russia there were 1 million prosperous bums who found it pleasant for themselves to relax in a warm foreign land. And when the local people began to send them out, suspecting that they had brought in the virus, they loudly demanded airplanes, money for living, etc. I don’t know how to remove the “reason”, but discussions on this topic have become a commonplace, so I have not heard anything more specific than finding decent people in power. Who will be looking for? How to define he is decent and not a chatterbox? How to know that he is a decent person. yes in business not capable? Therefore, I had no hope for good.
            1. +7
              April 15 2020 10: 20
              Quote: mikh-korsakov
              How to determine he is decent, not a talker? How to know that he is a decent person. Yes, not capable of business? Therefore, I have no hope of good.

              Colleague, don't despair! In the training manuals, the path-dependent people have a point, "start with yourself," so let's start. Why not suggest, for example, you or some of your friends, whose decency you do not doubt, for a leadership position? Personally, I am ready to work for the good of the country, I will not steal and I will not allow others.
              1. +2
                April 15 2020 11: 57
                Malyuta! That's right, but here's the thing. There are no analogies. for example only. Let it be in your village. In a quarter or town, there is a person who is well versed in technology, and when asked to fix it, he takes godly, and for pensioners he repairs it for free - that is, quite worthy. But bad luck - he does not like dogs and in general is a nervous man - and he poisoned everyone. That's what to arrange elections between owners of repaired equipment and dog breeders. And who will arrange the elections? They will answer me - you are breaking into an open door. For this, humanity has invented parties. But as Chairman Mao said, "on the high seas one cannot do without a helmsman." That is, a party leader is needed. But it is well known that in the human cycle it pops up, you know what. That's right - the most cunning, unprincipled or, in the worst case, a rhetoric comes up. Therefore, I have no faith in a worthy, just leader. There are great leaders like Stalin, but that he was always just? Who, after the war, introduced a tax for collective farmers from each apple tree? But by the way - these are all thoughts on self-isolation - and a little.
                1. +1
                  April 15 2020 18: 30
                  Misha should not be considered prosperous, those who traveled abroad as a tourist. I have known husband and wife went to Turkey and what are they prosperous? They live in a kopeck piece, they saved up for a trip for 2 years, they can’t even buy a car.
                  1. +2
                    April 15 2020 19: 53
                    Fan fan Having given a particular example, you kind of invite me to give a similar one. So, my wife works as a tutor in a wealthy family. The father of the family formed the security of his family on the basis of the promotion of Baysad pasta to our region, during many years of working with children in this family - it was noticed that he was engaged in leasing parts of a warehouse that he bought cheaply from a bankrupt company. I agree, a worthy occupation - but worthy of what exactly? Build a house in our resort area, buy an apartment in St. Petersburg, spend with the whole family all winter in Thailand? Someone will say - well done! All the same, no one will convince me that the market itself regulates people's incomes. It’s just that everyone’s markets are different, and this in the end is detrimental to the economy, like any exorbitant one. I, too, am no stranger to tourism. That saved up to go in the summer with granddaughters and his wife in the Tver region to Seliger, almost accumulated, now FIG
            2. +3
              April 15 2020 13: 16
              Quote: mikh-korsakov
              in Russia there were 1 million prosperous loafers who found it pleasant to relax in a warm foreign land.

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              There seemed to be the price of vouchers so much that "bosota" was able to buy them. The tourist business is just right to finish the last piece of bread.
              1. +2
                April 15 2020 13: 42
                Eugene! Vacations became cheaper when the coronavirus was already raging. Those who bought tickets at a low price should have known about it, unless of course they are complete .... We relied on Russian maybe. In hot countries they were greeted unkindly and closed air traffic. Then they remembered that they were Russian citizens and began to demand from the state to be returned. Mr. did it to the best of his ability. Who are the complaints?
                1. 0
                  April 15 2020 18: 35
                  They wrote a million tourists themselves, and 20 million can not even afford to go to Turkey. Here I found the data for 2016:
                  "According to the Russian holding Romir, over the past two years, the number of the poorest members of society has doubled. Today, 84 percent of citizens are saving on food. In 2015, there were only 8%. Forty-five percent had to limit the consumption of chocolate, fruit juices, fresh fruits and vegetables. Sixty-two percent of Russians stopped buying new clothes. Forty-six percent have never been to a restaurant. In 2015, 33% of the population - which is 5% more than in 2014 - could not afford a vacation. "
                  Now it’s 2020 and everything is probably even worse, since in addition pensions have been taken away, and prices for everything are rising.
        2. +9
          April 15 2020 10: 28
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          about 1 million Russians ended up abroad for the most part with entertainment purposes

          so no one canceled the stratification of society according to the material qualification. It is this category of citizens that the authorities assess as their reserve - they have something to lose. But how will those who have nothing to lose but their shackles behave? It was for them that Iskra caught fire in due time
      8. +10
        April 15 2020 10: 06
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        that would be these stupid leeches sucked to the pipe died of hunger.

        the goal, of course, is worthy of respect. But our past experience shows that such leeches sacrifice others to save themselves.
      9. 0
        April 15 2020 14: 02
        I dream of a time when oil will cost -10 $ per barrel. What would these stupid leeches sucked to the pipe rested from hunger.))))))
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        Starvation does not threaten them in the foreseeable future. But what will we eat?
        1. 0
          April 15 2020 18: 42
          For them, death is like - the absence of yachts, palaces, privileges and trips to the West. And we will not starve, we are accustomed, without jamon, mozzarella and French wine, we will not die, and Europe will take pity, send food. I think even Ukraine will throw lard, and Belarusians will throw potatoes. And for the sake of such a great cause as to squeeze "leeches" and you can starve.
          1. -1
            April 15 2020 20: 15
            I think that even Ukraine will throw fat,))))))))))))
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            Don't even think about it - it won't. Moreover, they themselves have almost all the lard imported. And I strongly doubt the same about the Belarusian potato. Their main source of direct and indirect foreign exchange earnings is Russia. And from what sources they will take funds for the purchase of "Belarusian" potatoes in Poland is not clear.

            And for the sake of such a great thing, how to squeeze "leeches" and you can starve.)))))
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            There is a saying: "While the fat one dries, the skinny one dies."
    3. +6
      April 15 2020 08: 21
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      But sheikhs have a budget of 90-100% of oil.

      30% of the Saudi economy is not tied to oil. hi
      1. +7
        April 15 2020 09: 23
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        30% of the Saudi economy is not tied to oil.

        The Saudis have a program to get out of oil dependence, and we have a 2020 program and May decrees. Feel the difference.
        1. +14
          April 15 2020 10: 33
          Quote: Malyuta
          The Saudis have a program to get out of oil dependence

          you can’t worry about the Saudis. Salman has a different approach to solving problems, unlike us: he did not touch the lower layer of society, and he compensates for the costs at the expense of the elite. We have: the lower layer of society - additional taxes, the rich - state support
    4. +11
      April 15 2020 08: 30
      Sheikhs have a very bloated budget of $ 272 billion per 35 million people. Oil provides about 70% of budget revenues.

      However, they have a 501,8 billion eggplant today.

      It is also possible to significantly reduce the budget. Freeze aid to all kinds of Egypt, LNA and others. To cut the military budget, which is No. 3 in the world and more than the Russian one, namely, $ 68 billion for this year. Cut any mega-projects - like a paradise garden in the desert or megastructures steeper than that of China / UAE. Well, etc.

      As for the USA, the oil-producing industry is not so important in the country's budgeting. Yes, this is a problem for Trump, because a number of shale states can vote for Biden. But not more. Plus, technology is not forgotten. Companies will go bankrupt this year. But if, after 2-3 years, the price will again make production profitably, new ones will appear quite quickly or the old ones will return in the new way. The problem of shale oil from the USA lies precisely in technological capabilities. And not that, Bill and Co. went bankrupt.
      1. +7
        April 15 2020 08: 54
        Quote: donavi49
        Sheikhs have a very bloated budget of $ 272 billion per 35 million people. Oil provides about 70% of budget revenues.
        However, they have a 501,8 billion eggplant today.

        All right. They only forgot to add the difference in the cost of oil production and transportation. The Saudis have it several times smaller. And this is of fundamental importance.
        1. +8
          April 15 2020 08: 58
          Well, that goes without saying. They can sell for 12-14 dollars, throwing a penny in profit. The high prices are mega-profits for them, on which they hoisted the budget and he was so swollen.
        2. +10
          April 15 2020 10: 36
          Quote: Odyssey
          And this is of fundamental importance.

          has a fundamental decision that the basis of OPEC is the Arab states and in case of failure to comply with new agreements, they can take any measures to violators. And the United States will support them.
          Stopping and launching new wells in the Arabs is an easy process, which cannot be said about ours. Alas request
      2. +10
        April 15 2020 09: 21
        Quote: donavi49
        Sheikhs have a very bloated budget of $ 272 billion per 35 million people. Oil provides about 70% of budget revenues.

        In Norway, the "money box" is TRILLION dollars! It's just that there are no oligarch officials in Norway and they don't steal in Norway.
      3. +3
        April 15 2020 13: 20
        Quote: donavi49
        As for the USA, the oil-producing industry is not so important in the country's budgeting.

        ---------------------
        I am constantly talking about this, but we have an audience that believes that the structure of the US economy is similar to the Russian one and the strong shortening of oil and gas production there supposedly will greatly affect something. The United States is printing the world currency, the dollar and can easily transfer all its hardships to others who use this dollar. That is, they stupidly print the missing amount.
    5. +6
      April 15 2020 08: 42
      A far from reality philosophical post inspired by sitting in 4 walls - Only executions will save Russia ... Eternally, everything is half Fyodor! Mother Russia doesn’t complete any business - well, they started to butt on oil, why retreat - you had to bend your line! We entered Georgia and stood 20 km from Tbilisi - why did you enter? They began to squeeze out the Donbass - they threw them on half a road ... They led quarantine measures to stay at home, but if you went out for a walk, then it’s okay ... Why then do you need this quarantine ?? It reminds the times of Alexander II, the same did not bring anything to the logical end of his reforms ... Even life ... laughing
      1. +11
        April 15 2020 10: 39
        Quote: Finches
        Only executions will save Russia ...

        the question is who to shoot? I believe that different groups have mutually exclusive views on this. "Lena shootings" and "Bloody Sunday" isn't it a lesson?
        1. +1
          April 15 2020 21: 18
          hi You need to start shooting with those who doubt the use of executions ...
      2. +2
        April 15 2020 13: 22
        Quote: Finches
        Only executions will save Russia ...

        ------------------------
        If you continue your thought, Eugene, "since we started to fight with the Sadites, we had to throw a vigorous Bonboy around Riyadh. And all the businessmen." laughing laughing
        1. +1
          April 15 2020 21: 17
          Yes, namesake hi , in your comment, a good idea - but if you drop the bomb, then on Washington - after that, Riyadh will become one of our most faithful friends ... laughing
    6. +7
      April 15 2020 08: 44
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      But sheikhs have a budget of 90-100% of oil.

      Why are you attached to these sheikhs?
      See how ordinary citizens live on these oil revenues! And we still have gas, wood, chemistry, rockets, wheat and how our people live
      1. +9
        April 15 2020 09: 37
        Quote: APASUS
        See how ordinary citizens live on these oil revenues! And we still have gas, wood, chemistry, rockets, wheat and how our people live

        Correction We there is nothing but the right to spin as you know how. Yes, and it’s right, they clamp it with all its might. it they eat oil, forest and wheat.
      2. +11
        April 15 2020 10: 41
        Quote: APASUS
        Why are you attached to these sheikhs?

        so it is because these "villains" did not allow the plans of the hotly beloved leader to come true.
    7. +5
      April 15 2020 08: 55
      The April monitoring of the RANEPA also describes the medium-term prospects for the functioning of the oil industries of the three leading countries - Russia, the USA and Saudi Arabia. And he comes to the conclusion that at the current oil prices, the first two countries will not be able to introduce new fields:

      “At the current level of production and without opening new deposits, Saudi Arabia will have enough for 90 years, Russia for 27 years, and the United States for 11 years. In addition, the average price of a barrel of oil to break even new projects in the US and Russia is much higher than in Saudi Arabia. For example, according to the calculations of IHS Markit and Saudi Aramco, in November 2019, the average cost of a barrel of oil on a new onshore project in Saudi Arabia was $ 17, in Russia - $ 42, and in the US - $ 49. For existing deposits - $ 10, 35 and 40, respectively.

      The above estimates were obtained taking into account the full cycle of production and payment of taxes. Based on them, the RANEPA has calculated the average break-even price of a barrel of oil without paying taxes for Russia, it is $ 13. Given the forecast values ​​of the average annual oil price of $ 40 per barrel. in 2020–2021, we can conclude that Saudi Arabia will be able to freely increase production, including by resorting to the development of new projects, while the growth of Russian oil supplies to the world market will be ensured only through existing projects. The US oil industry will face financial difficulties and fewer existing wells. ”
    8. +9
      April 15 2020 08: 55
      Do not worry about the sheikhs. They were preparing for a similar scenario before everything went down sharply. They’ll clutch, shuffle finances and survive.
      The crisis of overproduction and other "dummies" began long ago. Everyone prepared for it, to the best of their understanding.
      As always, every little thing will suffer the most, maybe even fatally, and the "big uncles" will survive and hide every little thing.
      The epidemic will end, reduce its influence on everything and everyone, and the crisis is only entering its peak. It will be hard for everyone.
    9. +13
      April 15 2020 09: 17
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      And we will winter, summer is ahead, the market will still sag.

      I can regard such a comment as bullying! Explain with what fright people in the richest country in the world should survive, winter, tighten their belts and eat palm oil?
      Or is it a fee for a selfless 20 year old love for the leader ?!
      1. -1
        April 15 2020 18: 50
        Since hunger is on the horizon anyway, can we all go on a hunger strike in the struggle for our rights?
    10. -3
      April 15 2020 14: 09
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      The United States with its slate, let it roll to the very bottom, the deepest gorge. And we will winter, summer is ahead, the market will still sag. Only the development of chemical processing can help us.

      Here is finally a normal comment !!! Oil is not only gasoline and energy, but also a huge amount of chemical products and medicines, etc. .It is time to restore all this, there are resources and technologies .. Over with agriculture, as they jumped after the sanctions .. hi
      And spit on the cons of Mavrikiy !!!!!! Hang on neolibic men are sitting here around the clock now)))
  2. +9
    April 15 2020 06: 39
    Zesrad or overpower for Russia? Although it is possible and crap in Russian ... thanks to the cross-section of the hero of Russia, the only one who was able to tear the Russian economy to shreds ..
    1. -10
      April 15 2020 06: 57
      Everything is gone ... we are finished ... you might think Russia will no longer rise from its knees ... such comments are very similar to those from the Censor. smile
      And I will say this pandemic has exposed many sores around the world in all countries.
      How little it turns out needs to be done to make the whole world look like a flock of mice scattered across their holes.
      Russia even helps Italy, Serbia ... name at least one country that has done the same except Russia and China.
      The conclusion suggests itself ... in an emergency, every country except Russia will save itself guided by its selfish considerations.
      1. +11
        April 15 2020 07: 44
        And the Pechenegs defeated the Polovtsians, but the Saudis succumbed from the heart of course ....
        1. +14
          April 15 2020 10: 43
          Quote: regdan
          And the Pechenegs defeated and the Polovtsy

          now in Russia there are three troubles: Polovtsy, Pechenegs and coronavirus request
          Roads and d.u.r.ak.i are no longer relevant laughing
      2. 0
        April 15 2020 09: 03
        Russia will survive, not the first time. It will be hard for the people, as always .... however, when was it easy for him?
        1. +6
          April 15 2020 13: 08
          Oh Victor, of course I want to hope, but looking at the population decline in the Russian regions, the people in Russia in 50 years will be mostly non-Russian. hi
          1. +2
            April 15 2020 14: 04
            As an everywhere! It’s no longer necessary to talk about those who have settled, merged, taken root, if not about ours. Our, Russian, it’s not always about the cut of the eyes, but about the state of mind, culture and other important things.
            We have a negro Vasya Krima, I almost became a deputy.
            You can still say from him that he is a newcomer, and his son is so completely ours! Rather, he can perceive his distant kin as .... distant! And so, boy, like a boy, darker than the rest and that’s all! Football also drives and .... expressed no worse than the rest. soldier
            Here you go.
      3. +2
        April 15 2020 09: 09
        name at least one country that has done the same except Russia and China.
        Cuba and Venezuela.
        1. +1
          April 15 2020 14: 10
          Look at the events taking place, what can you see?
          Those whom "advanced dermocracies" have appointed as the main scarecrows, outcasts, behave like the most humane, in relation to everyone, regardless of faces!
          And those who, as it were, in a halo and white feathers, just like bandits from the highway.
          Did the world turn upside down or has it always been like that?
      4. +3
        April 15 2020 09: 43
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        The conclusion suggests itself ... in an emergency, every country except Russia will save itself guided by its selfish considerations.

        And Russia, a broad soul, will save Italians, whom we are not today, so the day after tomorrow we will overtake them in terms of the number of new diseases, and call not to panic, with news that hunger is actually here, next to it, and people are not blooming like before, but food. Well, we are not selfish, our soul hurts for the Europeans, and our inhabitants can die, they will not die from them.
        1. +9
          April 15 2020 10: 48
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          And Russia - a wide soul, will save Italians

          and not only! Uzbekistan purchased 500 artificial lung ventilation (IVL) devices in Russia for the treatment of patients with the new COVID-19 coronavirus, country's President Shavkat Mirziyoyev said on Friday.
          Medical Herald: in all regions of Russia there is a shortage of ventilators and extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO), which can lead to serious consequences in the event of a large-scale epidemic of coronavirus infection in the country.
          1. +3
            April 15 2020 11: 16
            Quote: Overlock
            and not only! Uzbekistan purchased 500 artificial lung ventilation (IVL) devices in Russia for the treatment of patients with the new COVID-19 coronavirus, country's President Shavkat Mirziyoyev said on Friday.

            But do not touch the Uzbeks. It is sacred. Does someone need to work in dying Russia? Less than half a million this year is planned. It is necessary to replace the Russians? If not Uzbeks, then who?
  3. +9
    April 15 2020 06: 48
    Unfortunately, until the global economy begins to recover from the pandemic, oil prices will be at the bottom. This, on the one hand, is bad for exporters. On the other hand, cheap oil will help the economy make money faster, which will spur demand for oil. In any case, the next 2-3 years will be very difficult for Russia.
  4. +7
    April 15 2020 06: 54
    The US Energy Information Administration (EIA) published its next monthly short-term forecast for the oil market (Short-Term Energy Outlook). According to the agency, production in the US in 2020 may fall by 0,5 million bpd to 11,8 million bpd. In 2021, the EIA expects acceleration of production decline to 0,7 million b / s.

    World consumption in the I quarter of 2020 amounted to an average of 94,4 million b / s, which is 5,6 million b / s lower than the same period in 2019. According to the results of full 2020, the EIA expects a decrease in consumption by 5,2 million b / s. / s by 2019, followed by an increase of 6,4 million b / s in 2021

    According to experts of the department, world reserves of liquid fuel (including oil and oil products) will grow by 3,9 million b / s in 2020 after falling by 0,2 million b / s in 2019. The first to make the largest contribution to growth two quarters of the year. In the I quarter, the growth rate amounted to 5,7 million b / s, and in the II quarter an acceleration to 11,4 million b / s is expected. The reduction in world reserves will begin only in the fourth quarter of 2020. In 2021, analysts predict a decrease in reserves of 1,7 million b / s.

    The EIA estimates that Brent crude oil prices will average $ 33 per barrel in 2020, which is almost half the average $ 64 per barrel in 2019.
    oil reserves data from the American Petroleum Institute (API). Over the week, oil reserves in the United States grew by 11,9 million barrels (up to 473,8 million). According to Reuters surveys, analysts on average expected growth of 9,3 million barrels. Reserves at the Cushing terminal were up 6,8 barrels.

    Gasoline stocks rose 9,4 million barrels (+4,3 million forecast), distillate stocks fell 177 barrels (+000 million forecast). Oil imports for the week fell by 1,4 barrels per day (b / s).


    More information on BCS Express:
    https://bcs-express.ru/novosti-i-analitika/rynok-nefti-eia-ozhidaet-33-za-barrel-brent-v-2020-godu
  5. +8
    April 15 2020 07: 06
    And what were the results supposed to be?
    Supply was reduced, and demand fell, and will continue to fall.
    The global crisis will not allow the price of oil to rise, even against the background of reduced production.
  6. +6
    April 15 2020 07: 16
    And, next year (God forbid) some new global epidemic will suddenly begin? 20 years of chewing snot led to the fact that we have the same total dependence on hydrocarbons, stagnation of the economy, supercritical impoverishment of the population! It would seem that here is a chance for the country, against the backdrop of a pandemic, to accelerate to the maximum the technical re-equipment of enterprises, to develop YOUR production in metallurgy machine tools in machine building! But, a strong and independent Russia is not needed for those who are in power, because they do not know how to work constructively. As a result, we will, on a whim from above, wait for the end of the pandemic, and yes, and the lifting of sanctions!
    1. +17
      April 15 2020 07: 33
      It was necessary to invest money in industry and agriculture, and not in flows and Western securities .. They invested in the US national debt .. Well, that's right - give money to the Americans, let them build more missiles, arrange more color revolutions ... What papers? They won't give back a cent. Firstly, they did not take it for that, and secondly, there is nothing to give them. Iran wanted to take something from their "savings", and what came of it? There are sanctions and threats against us, and we give them money .Surrealism of some kind .. What about an alternative to invest in your own economy?
      1. -1
        April 15 2020 19: 02
        Yes, they do not know how to invest in their own economies, since they don’t understand nicerts in the economy, and even there is no desire to understand. And they can only stupidly transfer money to the United States in the hope of a meager percentage. They also know how to put money into a little bottle and boasts, they say, look how big a stash.
  7. +8
    April 15 2020 07: 27
    Quote: The same Lech
    Everything is gone ... we are finished ... you might think Russia will no longer rise from its knees ... such comments are very similar to those from the Censor. smile
    And I will say this pandemic has exposed many sores around the world in all countries.
    How little it turns out needs to be done to make the whole world look like a flock of mice scattered across their holes.
    Russia even helps Italy, Serbia ... name at least one country that has done the same except Russia and China.
    The conclusion suggests itself ... in an emergency, every country except Russia will save itself guided by its selfish considerations.

    Germany and Austria provided medical care to patients by taking over the air transportation of these patients. Poland and Romania sent teams of doctors and medical staff to Italy.
  8. -18
    April 15 2020 07: 33
    It is necessary to hold out until the fall .... Yes, Russia is suffering from low oil prices, but there are countries in which the whole oil industry generally flies into the pipe !!!! For example, the United States. Although they call Russia a gas station, they themselves sit even better on a shale needle, which is oil and gas .... Tomorrow the EU will ask ---- so what kind of oil and gas do you offer us? And the mattresses will have nothing to answer, the extraction of all this in the USA will not be profitable. Then the question begs itself ---- and what for you didn’t let us finish the pipe if you yourself are in the opera?
    I think that something like this will begin in the fall, when the insurance of shale producers in the states ends ..... In general, it seems to me that the whole world is on the "brink of a grandiose nix" .... I would live to see him and see how all this will be and who will come out with what out of him. drinks
    1. +9
      April 15 2020 10: 50
      of all your optimistic passage, only that is real ..
      Quote: Chingachguk
      ... the world is on the verge of a grandiose nix ..
  9. +4
    April 15 2020 07: 46
    Quote: Alexey Sommer
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    And we will winter, summer is ahead, the market will still sag.

    I dream of a time when oil will cost -10 $ per barrel. What would these stupid leeches sucked to the pipe rested from hunger. Otherwise, Russia will not get rid of parasites for a very long time.

    Yes, it will be so sooner or later alternative energy and electric cars will do their job according to forecasts, demand will grow already from 2025 and then decline, if the country does not rebuild by this time, difficult times await us, hundreds of thousands of state employees will remain, the population will be even larger impoverished, archaic and inefficient system of government will crumble ..
  10. +4
    April 15 2020 08: 07
    In the current situation, when demand is falling and oil storage facilities are overflowing, the war between oil producers has shifted from the area of ​​reduced oil production to the side of lowering the supply price. The Saudis have raised the price for the United States. But the volumes of supplies there are small. And where the big volume goes, the price is reduced. Saudi Arabia's oil state-owned company Saudi Aramco has released data on its oil prices for May 2020.

    According to Reuters, prices for Asia in May 2020 were reduced by $ 2,95 - $ 5,5 per barrel. At the same time, the price of oil supplies to the United States increased by $ 2,50 - $ 4,2 per barrel. The cost of delivering Saudi oil to Europe has remained the same.
    http://pozitciya.com.ua/79185-reuters-saudovskaya-araviya-vozobnovila-neftyanuyu-voynu-protiv-rf.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
  11. -3
    April 15 2020 08: 38
    This problem with the virus will end, the economy will start to rise, and oil will be needed. And everything else is dust in the eyes.
  12. -1
    April 15 2020 08: 43
    We survived the Polovtsians and Pechenegs, we survive the virus with cheap oil.
  13. +5
    April 15 2020 08: 50
    [/ quote] The main obstacle to stop a further fall, and subsequently everyone’s expected increase in hydrocarbon prices, is an unprecedented surplus of raw materials resulting from a record drop in demand caused by the COVID-19 pandemic.
    [Quote]


    This is a controversial issue for reporting to the media, saying that due to the virus there will be little income from the sale of oil in the budget, since it is necessary to write off something .. but at least write off the virus. It’s just that consumers are switching to other resources (for example, gas )

    All this gathering is due to the fact that it is tedious to take measures to raise oil prices, but OPEC + shows that someone: mined, sold, drank, and someone: mined, sold, and invested in development.
    1. +3
      April 15 2020 09: 04
      Consumption fell due to global quarantine reasons. Tens of thousands of aircraft alone are idle right now. Then, as usual, they fly 6 hours a day each (taking into account downtime, maintenance, etc.).
      Ship traffic also fell.
      Road transport also collapsed.

      To this - industry in a heap of countries, for a number of positions went on vacation.

      And another oil is a speculative resource now. And for rising prices, you need a positive indicator. Trump is not trying, promising that in two weeks they’ll certainly chase everyone with sticks to the factories. How not to sow optimism in Europe. So far, there are no real positive indicators.
      1. +7
        April 15 2020 09: 31
        It’s not quarantine, the fact is that OPEC +’s main income is oil sales, but
        [/ quote] All this gathering because of which it is tedious to take measures to raise oil prices, but OPEC + shows that, someone: mined, sold, drank, and someone: mined, sold, and invested in development .



        And another oil is a speculative resource now. And for rising prices, you need a positive indicator. Trump is not trying, promising that in two weeks they’ll certainly chase everyone with sticks to the factories. How not to sow optimism in Europe.
        There is no speculation. There will be war, then there will be speculation.

        Trump does not drive anyone and does not drive sticks to factories, but he worries about industry.


        And for rising prices, you need a positive indicator [quote]
        You can’t live off from the sale of one oil. Who lives only due to one sale of oil, and even on TV says that everything, pipes were laid, it’s a parasite.
        1. +9
          April 15 2020 10: 55
          Quote: ximkim
          You can’t live on the sale of one oil.

          so it’s clear. It remains only to implement this! Putin announced this dream to us 20 years ago. Well, it didn’t work, and I didn’t want to! - Why break what gave free money at an oil price of more than 100 bucks!
          Here are just a fairy tale always end
  14. +3
    April 15 2020 08: 53
    Alas. Everyone understands.
    But there is no way to get rid of leeches.

    "Poor" Rogozin has from 600% of the profit. Sechin - for 2000%.

    Neither drugs nor weapons gives such a profit.
    For less money, both blacks and white fellow citizens were sold into slavery.

    All these Georgian snipers, loans in Africa, plane crashes of generals and surgeons - everything is justified for such a profit.
  15. +1
    April 15 2020 09: 12
    Everything in the world revolves around resources!
    Energy resources, one of the most important parts of a single whole. Everything is interconnected!
    Somewhere in one place strained, in other places a natural reaction to the situation!
    Now the two strains have merged and pulled along everything else.
    It is far from recovery, even the end of the epidemic, it will be only the beginning on the path to the restoration of the global economy.
    And besides, many of the RULES on which the world economy was somehow held flew to tar tarar. This will greatly affect the recovery process, it will not just be hard, it will be much worse.
  16. -2
    April 15 2020 10: 24
    primarily in Russia


    Did the author forget about the monarchy of the bay or simply decided to drag it?
    1. 0
      April 15 2020 12: 24
      Is it in the monarchies that people survive on $ 150 a month ??
      1. -2
        April 15 2020 13: 41
        It is in the monarchies of the Gulf that the budget is 70-80% dependent on the export of petroleum products, and it would be more correct to mention them. Especially when you use the phrase "primarily"
  17. +2
    April 15 2020 12: 50
    Quote: Overlock
    Quote: regdan
    And the Pechenegs defeated and the Polovtsy

    now in Russia there are three troubles: Polovtsy, Pechenegs and coronavirus request
    Roads and d.u.r.ak.i are no longer relevant laughing

    1. -1
      April 15 2020 19: 13
      Thanks for the video, I watched it 2 times and laughed heartily both times.
  18. +4
    April 15 2020 13: 28
    Here is such an epoch, guys: a bit rough inside and out.
    It is never so bad that it could not get worse ...
    One thing is clear and understandable - money for wars in Syria, Libya, Donbas, Su-57, Armata, etc. - will no longer be. We are expecting "postponements to the right", unexpected financial problems. Brothers in Venezuela, DPR, LPR will have to tighten their belts in anticipation of something incomprehensible. And yes. The sanctions will not be lifted, but new ones will be added again. If we don't decide anything now, we will get the collapse of the Russian Federation, as a small copy of the collapse of the USSR under similar conditions.
    1. +2
      April 15 2020 13: 40
      Well, if, for example, Chechnya and Dagestan leave us, hardly anyone will be very sad.

      Yes, and already tired of living only by caring for the "indecent" of the Russian Federation .. I just want to live normally and calmly ..
      And the country for 20 years, although it did not fall apart, but completely rotted .. It’s scary to imagine how much the new Stalin will have to stir and rake in this field ..
      1. +2
        April 15 2020 14: 53
        But if Yakutia, the Urals and Siberia want to "leave us", many will be saddened, the tiles in Moscow will not be changed from winter to summer so often, and the loot from oil, gas, diamonds and gold - a little!
        1. +1
          April 15 2020 15: 25
          Yakutia and Siberia, however, will heal and be glad ..
          And let Moscow itself think ..
          And it will be fair than now !!

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