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Rosenberg’s “perestroika” plan for Russia

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Rosenberg’s “perestroika” plan for Russia

Reichsleiter Alfred Rosenberg greets Luftwaffe military personnel at the Brovary airfield near Kiev. To the left of Rosenberg is the Reich Commissar of Ukraine Erich Koch. Rosenberg arrived in Kiev with an inspection


In 1941, Nazi ideologist Alfred Rosenberg outlined to Hitler a plan for the dismemberment of the USSR-Russia. The essence of Rosenberg’s plan was to divide Russia forever so that the Russian world and the Russian people would lose unity.

Rosenberg's plan


In January 1941, Alfred Ernst Rosenberg, one of the most influential members and ideologist of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), the head of the NSDAP Foreign Policy Directorate, presented several reports to Hitler describing the plan for the "perestroika" of the Soviet Union after the victory of the Third Reich. Ukraine, Belarus, the Don and the Caucasus became "independent", they cut off part of the territory of Great Russia, the rest of Russia became a reservation, a place for deportation.

Interestingly, Rosenberg himself was a "Russian German." He was born in Revel-Tallinn in 1892 (then the Baltic was part of the Russian Empire) in a family with German and French roots. He studied at the Revelsky Real School, the Riga Polytechnic Institute, in 1918 he graduated from the Moscow Higher Technical School, received a diploma in engineer-architect. He tried to join the German volunteer corps in the Baltic states, but Rosenberg was not taken as a “Russian”.

He moved to Germany, where he became a member of the esoteric "Thule Society", made friends with Adolf Hitler and in 1920 became a member of the NSDAP. He became one of the main ideologists of the Nazis, the editor-in-chief of their central print media - Völkischer Beobachter (German: Völkischer Beobachter, People’s Observer). Rosenberg had a serious influence on the formation of Hitler's views; his ideas were included in the book “My Struggle”. In 1930, Alfred Rosenberg published his work Myth of the XNUMXth Century, which became one of the main works of the Nazis.

After the Nazis and Hitler came to power, Rosenberg became one of the leaders of the Reich. Since 1933, he headed the Foreign Policy Department of the NSDAP, since 1934 he has been authorized by the Fuhrer to control the general spiritual and ideological education of the NSDAP. Since 1940 - Head of the Central Research Institute for National Socialist Ideology and Education. Rosenberg established the so-called Reichsleiter Rosenberg Headquarters, which was formally supposed to be engaged in the creation of a research library, but during the war years it became a marauding organization that seized culturalhistorical values ​​in the occupied lands. In July 1941, Rosenberg became head of the Reich Ministry for the Occupied Eastern Territories. The ministry included: Reichskommissariat "Ostland" (capital - Riga), which included the Baltic States and part of Belarus; "Ukraine" (Rovno) - part of Ukraine and Belarus, it was planned to form Reichskommissariats "Caucasus", "Moskovia" - the central part of Russia to the Urals, "Volga-Don" and "Turkestan".

In fact, the huge occupied territories of the USSR were transferred under the control of Rosenberg. True, Rosenberg himself and his ministry did not enjoy much influence. Rosenberg was pressed from the imperial Olympus of the Reich by more active and efficient "predators." So, J. Goebbels took away the scope of propaganda. The head of the Party Chancellery of the NSDAP, the personal secretary of the Fuhrer Martin Bormann and the Reich Commissioner of Ukraine Erich Koch gradually pushed Rosenberg away from the Fuhrer, deprived of real power.


Perestroika of Russia


The Baltic states were planned to be fully Germanized over two generations. Part of the Baltic population was going to be deported to Belarus and Great Russia. Much attention was paid to Ukraine - Little Russia. The Germans understood that there would be no Great Russia without Ukraine, Southwest Russia, tens of millions of Russian-Ukrainians. In fact, the Nazi plans here were a continuation of the plans of the ruling elite of the Commonwealth, Austria and the Second Reich. Our enemies wanted to split, divide the united Russian people, to pit its parts together. Take control of the western part of the Russians, the Ukrainians of Little Russians, and use them in the fight against the rest of the Russian people.

Rosenberg proposed to create an "independent" Ukrainian state, which would be in close, indissoluble alliance with the German Empire. Hitler immediately made an amendment - he only agreed to a protectorate. To create Ukrainian statehood, according to Rosenberg, the cultivation of the Ukrainian language, such a development of the education system, is required to change the consciousness of the people. For people to focus on their own "independence" and alliance with Germany. In fact, the same thing has been done since 1991 - focusing on the "development" of the Ukrainian language and history, reforming the education system, cultivating the idea of ​​independence and an alliance with the EU, the USA and NATO.

The future of Ukraine is the breadbasket of Europe (European Reich). Ukraine should be a supplier of bread to the Great Reich. And here we see how the post-Soviet leadership of Ukraine fully realizes the ideas of the ideologists of the Reich. Ukraine is a colony of the European Union, a market for European goods, a source of raw materials, primarily agricultural, forest. High-tech industries (space, rocket science, shipbuilding, mechanical engineering, aircraft manufacturing, etc.) inherited from the USSR die. The people are rapidly degrading spiritually, culturally, intellectually and physically, and are rapidly dying out. Ukrainians-Russians pitted with Russian-Great Russians.

Crimea as a fertile land, which in the past was inhabited by German Goths, was to become part of the Reich. Become a German health resort. In particular, Hitler approved the renaming of Simferopol to Gothenburg, and Sevastopol to Teodorichsgafen. It was planned to join part of the Kursk and Voronezh regions to Ukraine.

The Caucasus was primarily interested in the Nazis as a source of oil. Georgians were considered the most culturally developed people of the Caucasus, most strongly associated with European culture, so they should have become representatives of the civil and military authorities of the Reich in the region. The Caucasus, like Ukraine, was also to become an anti-Russian land.

To weaken the central part of Russia - Great Russia, the core of the Russian state, it is necessary to separate the Don and the Volga region. Rosenberg noted that here among the population, national identity is not so pronounced as in Ukraine and the Caucasus. Therefore, the management of this territory should be carried out by more cruel methods. It is possible that they will bet on the Volga Germans, or they need to be relocated to Ukraine to strengthen its colonization.

Belarus was considered backward territory, both economically and culturally. A large percentage of the Jewish population was also noted (Jews of the USSR the Nazis destroyed without exception). The creation of an independent state and nation was considered as an extremely long and complex event. It was proposed to make the capital of the region Smolensk. Attach part of the Smolensk and Tver regions in Belarus.

Great Russia, the central region, had the greatest potential, on the basis of which the Russian Empire and the Soviet Empire were created. Therefore, it was proposed to weaken Great Russia as much as possible. The weakening of the central part of Russia was carried out by several methods: 1) the complete destruction of communist statehood without creating a new state apparatus in the future; 2) large-scale economic exploitation, in fact, looting: confiscation of all resources, wealth, machinery, transport, river fleet etc. In fact, Russia was deprived of its industrial and economic potential, its transport communications and connectivity were destroyed; 3) Great Russia was "circumcised" in favor of other Reich Commissariats - Ukraine, Belarus, the Don. Thus deprived of part of the resources and population. Also, Great Russia-Muscovy was considered as a zone of deportation of the entire undesirable population from other regions. Given the deprivation of Muscovy's economic potential, developed agricultural regions (Don - Volga region, Northern Caucasus, Ukraine), the Great Russians and deported Belarusians, Little Russians, etc., were doomed to mass starvation and rapid extinction.


Reichskommissariat on the General Plan Ost (1941)

Divide, Bleed, and Conquer


The essence of Rosenberg’s plan was to divide Russia forever. So that the Russian world and the Russian people lose unity. Russia cannot simply be captured, it is necessary to separate and destroy its civilizational, state-forming and cultural core - the Russian superethnos, uniting other indigenous ethnic groups of Russia-Russia around its culture, history and language.

To destroy Russian civilization, it is necessary to divide it into many weak national autonomies, which will be under the protectorate of the Third Reich. Skillfully pit them together, so that they could never become a threat to Germany in a constant squabble and swara. The main stake was placed on separatists and small-town nationalists.

First of all, the Nazis sought to pit the Russians with the Russians, destroying the source of power of the Russian people. So, from the southwestern part of the superethnos of Russ-Russians - Ukrainians-Little Russians, they planned to make a "battering ram" aimed at Russians-Great Russians. It turned out to be a kind of “ethnic chimera” - Russians by origin who fiercely hated everything Russian: the Russian language, culture, history, traditions and faith. Ukraine became the “policeman” of the Reich in maintaining control over the rest of Russia. Moreover, the Russians-Ukrainians themselves were a “one-time tool”. They initially turned into powerless and uneducated slaves, doomed to extinction from disease, hunger and alcohol.

The rest of Russia was also planned to be divided into many "independent" state formations. To turn a single Russian people into a mass of small nations. Return Russian to the distant past. When the inhabitants of Novgorod, Pskov, Tver, Moscow and Ryazan lived on their own and regularly fought with each other. One could go further, to the unions of Slavic Russian tribes - Novgorod Slovens, Vyatichi of Moscow and Ryazan, Krivichy of Polotsk and Smolensk, etc. According to Rosenberg, the small Russian sub-ethnic groups were not dangerous, and their energy was completely absorbed by the struggle with each other.

Thus, Nazi ideologists were going to divide Russia and the Russian people into many small state formations and sub-ethnic groups, completely dependent on the Reich. They were pitted against each other. For example, Ukraine and the rest of Russia. Russian power and energy were destroyed in internal wars. That is, Russia-Russia was returned hundreds of years ago, during the period of feudal fragmentation. The people were doomed to constant cultural and economic degradation and extinction. The Germans, as the “highest race," were given the opportunity to easily colonize the western parts of Russia. In particular, the Baltic states, Belarus, and Crimea were subjected to Germanization and were supposed to become part of the Eternal Reich. The local population was partially destroyed, partially evicted, and partly subjected to Germanization and assimilation. Some were left as slaves, wordless, and deprived of education and medicine.

After the defeat of the Reich, these plans were not forgotten. They passed "by inheritance" to the USA and the NATO bloc. In fact, when Gorbachev and his team smashed the USSR-Russia, they realized the plans of the Nazi elite and ruled the West in relation to the Russian world and the Russian people. United Russia was dismembered, its historical parts were torn away, including the ancient capital of the Russian state - Kiev. The Russian people became the largest divided ethnic group on the planet. They divided the Russians, they began to turn them into separate sub-ethnic groups, pitting against each other.


View of the dock of the Nuremberg trials. In the front row on the dock: Goering, Hess, von Ribbentrop, Keitel, Rosenberg, Frank, Frick, Streicher, Funk, Mine. In the second row - Doenitz, Raeder, von Schirach, Sauckel, Jodl, von Papen, Seyss-Ingvart, Speer, von Neurat, Frice
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  1. Sergei Novozhilov
    Sergei Novozhilov April 16 2020 10: 11 New
    +2
    Do not dig a hole for another; you yourself will fall into it ... General Rosenberg (obviously the fascist’s grandfather) from the Russian imperial army in the 30s of the 19th century blew up a historical monument near Kerch: the pyramid of the Golden Barrow is the oldest artifact 3000 years old
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 16 2020 10: 14 New
      +8
      In January 1941, Alfred Ernst Rosenberg, one of the most influential members and ideologist of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), the head of the NSDAP Foreign Policy Directorate, presented several reports to Hitler describing the plan for the "perestroika" of the Soviet Union after the victory of the Third Reich. Ukraine, Belarus, the Don and the Caucasus became "independent", they cut off part of the territory of Great Russia, the rest of Russia became a reservation, a place for deportation.


      In the 91st, this plan with some deviations due to the personal ambitions of the specific princes was realized ...

      The USSR is not, there is no single state, the Slavic peoples are divided.
      1. Atlant-1164
        Atlant-1164 April 16 2020 10: 44 New
        15
        poor fellow Rosenberg .. did not know about weapons of mass destruction. which is called the "Consumer Society" that weapon strikes the central nervous system of a person, transforming it from a highly cultured, highly moral and educated person .. just into one day, one hour. and the West did not need any wars. people over 50 years old .. let's remember ourselves at the end of 80gg and the beginning of 90gg. chewing gum, "boiled" jeans, etc. a Soviet man was completely washed out completely. and gave new values ​​to life. and today we have what we ourselves have been looking for these 30 years.
        1. nils
          nils April 16 2020 13: 02 New
          +9
          Quote: Atlant-1164
          poor fellow Rosenberg ..

          The main provisions of the general "plan of Ost":
          - It's not just about defeating a state with a center in Moscow. Achieving this historical goal would never mean a complete solution to the problem. The thing is most likely to defeat the Russians as a people ..... Only if we consider this problem from a biological point of view will it be possible to eliminate the danger that the Russian people pose to us ... It is important to weaken the Russian people ......
          - The entire territory of Russia must be divided into a number of states with their own governments ...
          - It is necessary to provide for the separation of the territory inhabited by Russians, to various political regions with their own governing bodies in order to ensure separate national development in each of them ... The carriers of the state political idea should be destroyed.
          - Our political line regarding Ukraine is the promotion of aspirations for national independence up to the potential creation of our own statehood ....
          - Our policy regarding the peoples inhabiting the vast expanses of Russia should be that encourage any form of disagreement and split.
          - There are many ways to undermine the biological power of the people ... In the East, we must consciously pursue a policy to reduce the population. By means of propaganda, especially through the press, radio, cinema, etc., we must constantly inspire the population with the idea that it is harmful to have many children ...
          It is necessary to show how much money raising children costs, and what could be acquired with these funds. It is necessary to talk about the great danger to the health of the woman to whom she is exposed, giving birth to children, etc. The broadest propaganda of contraceptives should be deployed ... The distribution of these funds and abortions should in no way be limited ... The expansion of the abortion network should be promoted in every possible way ... The better the abortion will be, the more confidence the population will have in them. Doctors must also have permission to have an abortion. And this should not be considered a violation of medical ethics ... "
          Training of Russian doctors should be reduced to a minimum, do not provide any support to kindergartens and other similar institutions ...
          “If we can pump out everything that we need from the country, then tens of millions of people will be doomed to starvation.”
          - In no case should the local population be given higher education. If we commit this oversight, we ourselves will generate resistance in the future against us. Therefore, it is enough to educate the local population, only reading and writing.

          The Rosenberg affair lives and wins!
          1. nils
            nils April 16 2020 13: 13 New
            +7
            From the directive of A. Hitler to the Minister for Eastern Territory A. Rosenberg
            on the implementation of the Ost Master Plan (July 23, 1942):
            The Slavs must work for us, and if we no longer need them, let them die. Health is unnecessary for them. Slavic fertility is undesirable ... education is dangerous. Enough if they can count to a hundred ...
            Every educated person is our future enemy.

            But is not the policy towards the Russian people over the past 30 years the implementation of plans developed by Hitler?
            1. nils
              nils April 16 2020 13: 36 New
              +5
              Bormann's letter to Rosenberg regarding politics in the occupied
              territories (excerpts):
              “Dear Party Rosenberg Highway!
              On behalf of the Führer, I bring to your attention his wish that you observe and implement the following principles in politics in the occupied eastern territories.
              - We can only be interested in reducing the population growth of the occupied eastern regions through abortion. German lawyers should never obstruct this. According to the Führer, broad trade in preservatives should be allowed in the occupied eastern territories. For we are not at all interested in having the non-German population multiply.
              - The danger that the population of the occupied eastern regions will multiply more than before is very high, while its well-being allows it. That is why we must take the necessary measures against its reproduction.
              - In no case should you give the local population a higher education. If we commit this oversight, we ourselves will generate resistance in the future against us.
              - In no case should we by any measures develop local feelings of superiority among the local population! You need to do just the opposite!
              “In no case should you build Russian (Ukrainian) cities or improve them, because the local population should not have a higher standard of living.”
        2. evgen1221
          evgen1221 April 17 2020 04: 45 New
          +2
          Massively trendy jeans, Vidik chewing gum among the people arose because of the sharp influx of this substance and the lack of such a variety of its own, plbs collapsed CMEA when the hunchback went to calculations for SLE. The authorities did not need jeans and the opportunity to seize the country's enterprises and ride abroad (here and propaganda in ri came to the court) In general, the population itself only wanted the opportunity to buy free imports and voted for the USSR but it was stupidly thrown. Catastrophically quickly and many circumstances developed into a single ball at the turn of the 90s. And largely thanks to the betrayal of Gorbachev.
    2. Finches
      Finches April 16 2020 10: 21 New
      +9
      All the liberals who wildly turning their eyes prove that it would be better, like the French, to surrender, you need to be brought to Auschwitz, shoved into the barracks there and not let out - until you have memorized all the plans of the Nazis regarding our country, by heart ... And then “Leningrad had to pass” “Moscow to pass” and would live now as in Bavaria ... You would now live with chair upholstery, and not in Bavaria! It’s half the trouble, if they talk about it in their wretched little blazes, but with such views they go to teach children in schools and universities! So Kolya from Urengoy appears ...
      1. Altona
        Altona April 16 2020 10: 28 New
        11
        Quote: Finches
        All the liberals, who are turning their eyes wildly, prove that it would be better, like the French, to surrender

        ---------------------
        Yes, there are not only liberals, there are just ordinary bourgeoisie. Only they think that they would be cherished and cherished like the French. For the Germans, the Slavs were second-rate, and the French were ethnically close, all the more so with pies, wines, courtesans, all sorts of grace and fashion. They had a pure agreement with the French. Enough is enough for us to cut on the Somme and under Verdun as before, well, nekomilfo. That's all. And ours with a Kalash snout think that they, like the French, will be kept, with parcels from the Red Cross, with operating rooms. Well, philistine consciousness, it is.
        1. DMB 75
          DMB 75 April 16 2020 10: 49 New
          15
          They especially think when they will need someone there, they take out money there, families, buying villas .. They think they’ll become theirs there, if that .. Only the goose’s pig is not a comrade. They will take from them everything that has been earned by overwork on the field of plundering the country , that’s all that awaits these all traitors.
          1. Altona
            Altona April 16 2020 10: 52 New
            11
            Quote: DMB 75
            They especially think when they need someone there, they take out money there, families, buying up villas ..

            --------------------------
            They didn’t read Bulgakov’s “Run” and didn’t watch how the blue-blood noblemen worked as laundresses and prostitutes, and the grand dukes were doormans and taxi drivers. And the current nouveau rush Russian gopota thinks that he will be there to ramp up on his money stolen from the people.
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  3. Altona
    Altona April 16 2020 10: 18 New
    +7
    In principle, everything is true, but by the style of presentation of Alexander Samsonov can be seen from afar. One thesis is taken and the whole article is wrapped around it. And yes, the Ost plan is being implemented on a full scale basis. We in our country have become a "population", a "contingent", but not a people. Little belongs to us, and we have less and less rights.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny April 16 2020 11: 10 New
      -12
      Quote: Altona
      One thesis is taken and the whole article is wrapped around it.

      This is called pulling an owl onto the globe.
      Communists only let you go to the feeding trough - there will be such genocide that Hitler did not dream.
      1. Serwid
        Serwid April 16 2020 11: 55 New
        10
        Quote: Mestny
        Communists only let you go to the feeding trough - there will be such genocide that Hitler did not dream.

        But you are in power now. That population is growing at a furious pace.
  4. iouris
    iouris April 16 2020 10: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: "He was born in Revel-Tallinn in 1862 (then the Baltic states were part of the Russian Empire)" End of quote.
    Figasebe: either a cross or cowards! The Russian Empire does not exist without the (Russian) “Baltic” (if you think about it well).
    And, last (by the way). "Tallinn" is written with an error: they demand to write two letters "n", "Tallinn"! Three is better.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 16 2020 10: 31 New
      +7
      born in Revel-Tallinn in 1862
      Powerful old man !!!
      Born: January 12, 1893, Tallinn, Estland Province, Russian Empire - And this is from the wiki ...
  5. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine April 16 2020 10: 26 New
    +4
    United Russia was dismembered, its historical parts were torn away, including the ancient capital of the Russian state - Kiev. The Russian people became the largest divided ethnic group on the planet.
    Gorbachev and Eltsin with his team implemented Rosenberg's plans. But Rosenberg had more than one plan of his own, and assistants in the preparation of these plans were far from in Germany.
  6. Kapellan23
    Kapellan23 April 16 2020 10: 26 New
    -16
    The essence of Rosenberg’s plan was to divide Russia forever.
    To destroy Russian civilization, it is necessary to divide it into many weak national autonomies.
    The remaining part of Russia was also planned to be divided into many "independent" state formations. To turn a single Russian people into a mass of small nations.


    So this is the Kaiser-Lenin-Stalin plan for the dismemberment of Russia, which in the end was carried out.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 16 2020 10: 33 New
      +5
      Quote: Kapellan23
      So this is the Kaiser-Lenin-Stalin plan to dismember Russia

      fool ?
      1. Varyag_0711
        Varyag_0711 April 16 2020 10: 36 New
        +2
        Insurgent
        fool?
        I agree that the Bulk Khrusts have one gyrus, and that one has gone to the fifth point. They can’t come up with anything smarter. Although it was the bullcrusts that made up the bulk of the collaborators who fought on the side of Hitler against their people.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 16 2020 10: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: Varyag_0711
          I agree that the Bulk Khrusts have one gyrus, and that one has gone to the fifth point.

          Actually, I do not mind Empire in understanding the power of the state , for example, the times of Catherine’s, but invert history and ideology as it did Kapellan23 - categorically not!
          I consider this an unacceptable, barbaric and blasphemous act ...
        2. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav April 16 2020 21: 49 New
          -4
          this naturally affects you because you are in the same harness with your dianka, this person has no knowledge and about your friend’s tortured look there for sure emptiness
      2. Kapellan23
        Kapellan23 April 16 2020 10: 52 New
        -9


        Enlighten:
        https://zhenziyou.livejournal.com/tag/украинизация
        https://zhenziyou.livejournal.com/tag/белоруссизация

        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 April 16 2020 11: 20 New
          +3
          Link to aunt Vika and the logbook, this is of course a killer argument. Both that and another full UG. However, what to expect from you then?
          Where are you the only ones fool drill? Which incubator is grown in?
  7. Old partisan
    Old partisan April 16 2020 10: 30 New
    +5
    Now I understand!
    In fact, in our country this should be called the Rosenberg-Gorbachev-Yeltsin plan, and not only the highly qualified specialists of the Third Reich who worked on this plan, but also the team of Gaidar Chubais and Kudrin.
    1. CSKA
      CSKA April 16 2020 13: 49 New
      +4
      Quote: Old Partisan
      Kudrina.

      I wonder how you dragged here Kudrin?
      1. Old partisan
        Old partisan April 16 2020 15: 23 New
        0
        And not from this team?
        Probably a clear socialist.
        Or did you forget the time when Kudrin was the Minister of Finance?
        1. CSKA
          CSKA April 17 2020 11: 22 New
          +5
          Quote: Old Partisan
          And not from this team?

          None of this, he did not work with the Gaidar.
          Quote: Old Partisan
          Probably a clear socialist.

          Have I written such a thing somewhere? Only if he is not a socialist does not mean that he is a liberal.
          Quote: Old Partisan
          Or did you forget the time when Kudrin was the Minister of Finance?

          No, I didn’t forget, only he became Minister of Finance under Putin, and not the Gaidar.
  8. Olgovich
    Olgovich April 16 2020 10: 34 New
    -7
    Posted by United Russia dismembered, torn away its historical parts, including the ancient capital of the Russian state - Kiev.
    Of course: United Russia forcibly, against the will of its inhabitants, Odessa was cut off, almost the whole of New Russia with Nikolaev and Kherson, Bessarabia, the Slobozhansky suburbs, Uralsk, Verny and thousands of other Russian cities, villages and towns, all5 million km2.

    Created ... never existed in history .... "state" belay republics: "kurains, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan", etc.

    And it happened in +1918 Mr.

    Today we live along the borders established in those years.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos April 16 2020 11: 40 New
      +4
      Many states never existed and then appeared
    2. apro
      apro April 16 2020 12: 41 New
      +4
      Olgovich. And faith does not allow to defend their interests? Or who are you waiting for?
      There are already no Reds for 30 years. It would have been a long time since all their problems had been resolved. And they were in profit.
      For 30 years, the Communists restored the unity of the country. They cut borders as they needed. Independence was defended. And economically they became 2 powers. And yours, what are your results?
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich April 16 2020 13: 11 New
        -4
        Quote: apro
        Olgovich. And faith does not allow to defend their interests? Or who are you waiting for?
        There are already no Reds for 30 years. It would have been a long time since they had already solved all their problems.

        You PEOPLE OF 1917 give us back and everything will be done a hundred times more.

        Have you already forgotten that you have captured a huge people full of energy, energy, enthusiasm, skill, initiative, originality?

        And they left - the people are already dying out, aging, torn, people who have no faith in anything, have forgotten how to work.

        Really does not reach?

        Quote: apro
        Communists for 30 years restored the unity of the country.

        WHICH country -... RUSSIA? What are you carrying?!
        You cut Russia into 46 states. So we live now
        Quote: apro
        economically became 2 power

        2nd meal?
        By clothes?
        Housing ?,
        By rigidity?
        What are you carrying?!
        1. apro
          apro April 16 2020 13: 20 New
          +3
          Do you really want to return the people of 1917? But it’s not too hot? You Russians didn’t solve the problems of Russians in 1917, and now what can you offer him? 30years down the drain ...
          Give it, give it ... and with your own hands with your own hands can you find anything useful? Or pocket everything. But there God forgive ..
          The Reds did not whine but did what they thought was necessary. And there were results ... two wars in 30 years did not break.
          Russian results where ???
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich April 16 2020 13: 34 New
            -4
            Quote: apro
            Do you really want return the people of 1917? and it’s not too hot?

            Do you not understand Russian?

            Hot and CREEPY becomes-YOU: remember what you promised in the 17th and what-gave.

            Like catastrophe 91 and extinction — YOUR total.
            Quote: apro
            you Russians in 1917 did not solve the problems of Russians and now what do you offer him


            What .... problems didn’t solve what you are carrying ?! fool
            You "solvers" made 91 and the Russian cross
            Quote: apro
            Now what do you offer him?

            The land is empty, which, because of your 70-year-old “tack”, is no longer needed by anyone.

            Ahh-you for class close Arabs / blacks / asians cleared her?
            Quote: apro
            Give it, give it ... and with your own hands with your own head, can you use something useful? Or everything is in your pocket. And there God will forgive ..

            Have you made the MILLENNIENT Russian people your pens? fool
            Nope, you have brought him to extinction with your hands, in just 70 years.
            Quote: apro
            The Reds did not whine but did what they thought was necessary. And they were results...two wars in 30 years did not break.

            Results-91 and RKrest.
            What ... two wars? fool
            Quote: apro
            Russian results where ???

            Russian results for 1000 years: THE BIGGEST COUNTRY OF THE WORLD and one of the BIGGEST AND GROWING PEOPLES OF THE WORLD - the best people!

            In 70 years you destroyed it all
            1. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 April 16 2020 13: 45 New
              +1
              Olgovich (Andrey)
              Like catastrophe 91 and extinction — YOUR total.
              Nnndaaa ... not all patients the war tidied up.
              The catastrophe of the 90s is the work of the modern elite, for which you are drowning so much here.
              Did you drink your brains?
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich April 16 2020 13: 49 New
                -4
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                drown.
                Quite brains drunk?

                Poke your lol WIFE. lol
            2. apro
              apro April 16 2020 14: 21 New
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              Russian RSFSR 1985 147 mil 2017 Russia 146 mil where natural growth? Why did you kill 30 mil of your citizens?
              Two wars over 30 years of civil war and World War II. For those who are not vkurse.
              Russian results where?
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich April 16 2020 14: 28 New
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                Quote: apro
                Russian RSFSR 1985 147 mil 2017 Russia 146 mil where natural growth? Why did you kill 30 mil of your citizens?

                The growth in the MILITARY 1917 is 3 million people.

                180 million + 3 million * 74 = 402 million

                population of the ussr -293 million

                WHERE 109 million?

                200 million abortions are also you.

                wild universal alcoholism is your everything

                Count Bookkeeper "
                1. apro
                  apro April 16 2020 14: 43 New
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                  Where are the results?
                  Or is Rosenberg's plan still in effect?
            3. Alex_1973
              Alex_1973 April 16 2020 14: 36 New
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              Olgovich (Andrey)
              What a disaster
              This is exactly what you wrote in your brain.
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich April 16 2020 14: 43 New
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                Quote: Alex_1973
                Olgovich (Andrey)
                What a disaster
                You in the brain that’s exactly what you wrote.

                You just have it nowhere produce... hi
        2. Alexander Suvorov
          Alexander Suvorov April 16 2020 13: 39 New
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          Olgovich (Andrey)
          Have you already forgotten that you have captured a huge people full of energy, energy, enthusiasm, skill, initiative, originality?
          What, in connection with the aggravation of the situation with coronavirus in Moldova, let all the psychos go home?
          The people in tsarist Russia were absolutely powerless, clogged and not literate. He had only one right, to apply for a master or a manufacturer for 14 hours a day.
          But under Stalin, the people were actually full of strength and aspirations. Something was not observed during the bloody tsar of the mass pilgrimage to construction sites, as was the case under Stalin.
          By the way, the people of whom you are so glad about it in 1917 and showed you your place near the public impulse. laughing
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich April 16 2020 13: 55 New
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            Quote: Alexander Suvorov
            What, in connection with the aggravation of the situation with coronavirus in Moldova, all psychos nabout houses dismissed?

            Nope, "A. Suvorov" is not released, dangerous ... lol
            Quote: Alexander Suvorov
            The people in tsarist Russia were absolutely powerless, clogged and not literate. He had only one right, to apply for a master or a manufacturer for 14 hours a day.

            The people in RUSSIA had a thousand times more FREEDOMS: freedom of elections, parties, words, opinions, marches, meetings, mobility, etc. that makes a person a person, not an animal
            Quote: Alexander Suvorov
            But under Stalin, the people were actually full of strength and aspirations. Something was not observed with the bloody king mass pilgrimage to construction sitesas it was under Stalin.


            lol So not so many “pilgrims” -ZEKOV did not plant, as with you.
            the "popular" power of enemies turned out to be TENS more than the .... "anti-popular" power.
            Quote: Alexander Suvorov
            By the way, the people of whom you are so glad about it in 1917 and showed you your place near the public impulse.

            The public push has already decades eat your idols lol
            1. Alexander Suvorov
              Alexander Suvorov April 16 2020 14: 21 New
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              Olgovich (Andrey)
              The people in RUSSIA had a thousand times more FREEDOM: freedom of election,
              I say, exacerbation of schizophrenia, enhanced by a stay in self-isolation ... laughing What choices are sickly? Who did you choose? King to the kingdom?
              words, opinions, processions, meetings,
              Yes? And that is why on bloody Sunday they were shown what “freedom of speech” is royal? Or maybe during the Rostov strike the people were allowed to speak out? They did not hesitate to use artillery there.
              movements
              Yeah, in the Stolypin carriage to Siberia or even to hell.
              and so forth what makes a person a person, not an animal
              Well, of you man certainly will not do anything. laughing
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich April 16 2020 14: 41 New
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                Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                I say, exacerbation of schizophrenia, reinforced by a stay in self-isolation.

                Well, and why are you complaining to me about your problems? belay

                Remotely contact the user of the Suvorov and Napoleon hi
                Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                What choices are sickly? Who did you choose? King to the kingdom?

                In the SCHOOL they will explain to you, but here is not an educational program, an ignoramus
                Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                Well, of you man certainly will not do anything.

                Should we talk about people with “Suvorovs” and “Napoleons”? belay lol
              2. Olgovich
                Olgovich April 16 2020 15: 37 New
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                Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                Well, of you man certainly will not do anything


                And the man, apparently, makes you furious poking the finger of the MINUS button on ALL my comments in all articles for today, yesterday and the day before? lol

                To the commentary - with ... congratulations on the holiday, to the commentary about ... year of birth, to the commentary ... "tradition", etc., etc. belay lol !

                Finger did not break?

                How old are you? 7,8,10? In the diapers yet? lol

                What a disgrace .... lol

                one word, "Suvorov" ..... lol
              3. ser56
                ser56 April 16 2020 19: 49 New
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                Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                King to the kingdom?

                and it was! but the general secretaries did not choose the people request and they also elected city councils, the State Duma, and many request
                Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                on bloody Sunday they were shown what “freedom of speech” is royal
                the better the shooting in Novocherkassk 62g?
                Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                Yeah, in the Stolypin carriage to Siberia or even to hell.

                a good wagon, especially for immigrants to new places ... and under the USSR they were brought by peoples request
  9. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 April 16 2020 10: 53 New
    +2
    Jews and Hitler’s entourage did not differ significantly in their thoughts from those who are now trying to rule the world.
  10. Nedokomsomolets
    Nedokomsomolets April 16 2020 11: 04 New
    +1
    As one of my former leaders said,
    "If you're so smart, why don't you build?"
    Really, 40 -50 years ago, no one knew about these plans? The KGB knew for sure! And how was it allowed? Believe that the West will not go again to rob the East? Or just sold? The KGB knew who Gorbachev was and allowed him to come if he didn’t bring it himself.
    Oh well.
    Now what? Is someone going to collect land back?
  11. Eugene Moser
    Eugene Moser April 16 2020 11: 11 New
    +3
    processes go fascism has not gone anywhere
  12. knn54
    knn54 April 16 2020 11: 22 New
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    - I tried to join the German volunteer corps in the Baltic states, but Rosenberg was not taken as a “Russian”.
    Literally after graduation, Rosenberg tried to join the Bolsheviks. But they did not accept.
    -Put control of the western part of the Russians - Ukrainians of Little Russians and use them in the fight against the rest of the Russian people.
    The western part of the Russians, over 6 centuries of German rule, the Poles of the Hungarians became Galicians. There are Slavs-Rusyns. But not Little Russians. For example, the Hutsuls and apparently Volhynians are descendants of the Thracian tribe of Carps. Hence the name of the Carpathians.
    I would like to add a little to this excellent, ACTUAL article. The Germans flirted with the Church. But even more encouraged the schismatics. Whether Rosenberg or Hitler said it would be good if every village had its OWN Church.
    "Russians, even if they are dismembered by international treatises, will just as quickly reunite with each other as particles of a cut piece of mercury. This is an indestructible state of the Russian nation, strong in its climate, its spaces and limited needs."
    Otto Bismarck.
  13. Ravik
    Ravik April 16 2020 11: 23 New
    +2
    Quote: Nedokomsomolets
    Now what? Is someone going to collect land back?

    Of the current ones, none. They have one concern - to applaud Tereshkova.
  14. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov April 16 2020 11: 33 New
    +2
    They created ... never existed in history .... "states" of the belay republic: "kurains, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan", etc.
    And it happened in 1918-1940
    Today we live along the borders established in those years.

    Tsarist Russia fell apart in 1917-20 due to its backwardness and inability to wage war. ITS could not be restored neither then nor even more so today in a pre-revolutionary form. It was Lenin and the Bolsheviks who understood very well and were able to gather its peoples again into the great USSR — the socialist superpower.
    It is amazing that there are still people who do not remember UTB today and dream of the Tsarist Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the Third Reich, the European Reich, the Islamic Caliphate, the Anglo-American Empire, and so on. At one time, the great and powerful states beat that brought progress and development of peoples, but today their time has irrevocably passed.
    1. Guazdilla
      Guazdilla April 16 2020 15: 55 New
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      Imagine another Cyrillic citizen about China and the Xianjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region with Tibet, about India with Kashmir.
      About the backwardness of the imperial empire. Read the pre-war statistics.
  15. Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 16 2020 11: 39 New
    +1
    Interestingly, Rosenberg himself was a "Russian German." He was born in Revel-Tallinn in 1862 year (
    Awkward, so it turns out 6 years older than our Nikolashka (this is according to the author). And if you believe Wikipedia
    Alfred Ernst Rosenberg (German: Alfred Ernst Rosenberg; Rus. Alfred Ernst Voldemarovich Rosenberg; January 12 1893, Revel, now Tallinn - October 16, 1946, Nuremberg) - statesman and politician of Nazi Germany, one of the most influential members and ideologist of the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP)
  16. Guazdilla
    Guazdilla April 16 2020 14: 44 New
    +1
    Better people studied at Baumanka, although this one was an excellent student.
    It is unnecessary to demonize his role in Nazi Germany, because in the highest echelons of power the Third Reich was not quoted, having come to be known as a limp storyteller.
  17. Alexey Sommer
    Alexey Sommer April 16 2020 14: 45 New
    +3
    The article, as if written about our time.
    All that did not work then is being successfully implemented now.
  18. cniza
    cniza April 16 2020 16: 24 New
    +4
    He was born in Revel-Tallinn in 1862.


    Mistake, born in 1893, but the scum was over ...
  19. Operator
    Operator April 16 2020 16: 30 New
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    The problem is not in Rosenberg, whose horns were broken off along with the Third Reich, the problem is in Stalin, who refused Churchill’s offer to divide Germany into several states (approximately in the zones of Soviet, American, British and French occupation) and to carry out de-industrialization there.

    Now they would have a completely different alignment in Europe.
    1. iouris
      iouris April 16 2020 18: 00 New
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      Quote: Operator
      the problem is in Stalin, who rejected Churchill's proposal to divide Germany

      If Germany were divided, then it would have grown together much earlier and definitely as a replica of Germany in 1933. But the Englishmen did not choose Churchill as early as next year and he retired on a political pension.
      Do not judge, and you will not be judged.
      Do not try to take the place of the generalissimo. Confirm your competence in modern Russia with a democratic choice and, perhaps, you will have the opportunity to solve the German problem. But this is unlikely.
      1. Operator
        Operator April 16 2020 19: 51 New
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        My competence in the civil service in modern Russia is repeatedly confirmed, do not worry.

        You better study the materiel: in Germany there is still no constitution for a simple reason - the largest land in Bavaria on the territory has been refusing to sign the Federal Treaty for half a century. And nothing grows together.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral April 16 2020 19: 28 New
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      Stalin did the right thing and it will still play when the people of Germany wake up and realize that without great Russia there will be no great Germany. We are doomed to an alliance, but not with those that seem to rule us, and not with those who rule Germany today.
  20. ser56
    ser56 April 16 2020 18: 02 New
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    the author said part of the truth - the Bolsheviks began the separation of historical Russia! created Ukraine and Belarus, slaughtered Russian lands for them, began to dawn and Belarusonization ... request
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 16 2020 19: 29 New
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      It is good to decide from the 21st century the affairs of the beginning of the 20th century.
  21. NordUral
    NordUral April 16 2020 19: 18 New
    -1

    For some reason, the hero of Chaplin was remembered alone.
  22. NordUral
    NordUral April 16 2020 19: 25 New
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    It remains to fulfill the very “smallness” —divide the current Russia. We have enough mind and will not only to interrupt this process, but also to turn it back?
    1. ser56
      ser56 April 16 2020 20: 25 New
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      Quote: NordUral
      it’s pounding our mind and will not only to interrupt this process,

      Do you want to do this under the banner of IVS? fool
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 16 2020 20: 48 New
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        Russia, Sergey, was saved by two great men. The first is Lenin, and the second is Stalin.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE794AQZAEA
        Here is a link from YouTube - Professor Katasonov outlines the real state of affairs in the country, and here we will dog at the same time. we will not notice that there is no country anymore, discussing whose toys the generals and admirals are cooler.
        And this is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfo1mAbd3Ig said a former adviser to Putin.
        Do not be lazy, please.
  23. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav April 16 2020 21: 34 New
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    Here is this article under the nose of a Urengoy stake and so I could learn it and remember it before death, and tell it to our children how quickly simple, illiterate people change history, we are born 50-60, we remember and will never forget the veterans of the most difficult war with the most difficult and brutal opponent, but for children it’s no matter how far, of course, they seem to remember about family conversations, but I still see a dying trend, and even this ostentatious junior army does not remove the feeling that after us everything, all interest in the memory of our ancestors will fall to zero
  24. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 19 2020 17: 27 New
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    The implementation of the OST plan was continued by Gorbi. EBN, Gaidar, Koch (not to be confused with the predecessor, etc.)