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Konstantin Zatulin on the air "60 minutes" on the coronavirus: Do not scare people!

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Konstantin Zatulin on the air "60 minutes" on the coronavirus: Do not scare people!

The issue of the 60 Minutes program sparked a discussion on the main topic of discussion - the new coronavirus. An increased degree of discussion manifested itself when the program began to discuss the question: is Russia already following the Italian or Spanish distribution scenario of COVID-19. At the same time, academician Sergei Netesov from Novosibirsk, who previously headed the Vector Research Institute of Molecular Biology, was involved in the discussion.


Sergey Netesov said that with this approach to self-isolation and quarantine measures, our scenario could turn into an American one. At the same time, the doctor of biological sciences criticized the measures under which the authorities banned the holding of mass events, but did not close the metro.

Sergey Netesov:

And the metro in the same Moscow is the most massive event every day.

Against this background, a statement from a representative of the clinic in Kommunarka appeared in the program, which stated that the data from her pedometer showed she covered 24 km during the working day. Her recording also spoke of a large number of patients and the fact that in some of them the virus turned the lungs into dust.

Also, a (Russian) medical woman from Italy was broadcast via video link, who suffers from a mild coronavirus and who emotionally accused Russia of not complying with self-isolation standards and the threat of repeating the Italian scenario.

The phrase “easy to trash” was repeated several times by the program host Yevgeny Popov.

The studio guest, broadcast participant Konstantin Zatulin, deputy chairman of the State Duma committee on CIS affairs, responded to these statements. The deputy accused the host of scaring people.

Zatulin:

Do not scare people!

According to Konstantin Zatulin, the danger from the coronavirus is undeniable, however, escalating the situation with the words “lungs to ruin” is too much. The politician noted that there are also enough other diseases in the world that now need not be forgotten about the coronavirus.

Another member of the studio from among politicians - deputy Aleksey Zhuravlev, commenting on the emotional words of a woman from Italy, made a remark about the following content: “it is gratifying how a woman who is in Italy takes care of Russia ...”
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  1. Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 14 2020 20: 01 New
    -14
    Poor doctors. The poor are sick.
    And you can only hear from the deputy - do not escalate ...
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 14 2020 20: 13 New
      -1
      Quote: Doccor18
      Poor doctors. The poor are sick.
      And you can only hear from the deputy - do not escalate ...

    2. smart ass
      smart ass April 14 2020 20: 21 New
      39
      Of course, everything goes according to the Italian scenario, so that everything would be different no one does. Today on Tuesday, traffic jams on the roads like on a normal day, everyone went to work. If you don’t go to work, you will die of hunger, you will go to work, you probably will not die from the virus, the choice is obvious.
      1. Shkodnick
        Shkodnick April 14 2020 20: 56 New
        24
        And it was all that was necessary to close the borders at the beginning of distribution, but no, Aeroflot and the like were allowed to earn extra money on transportation a little bit more, while the pandemic still did not smell ... Bullshit, we are waiting for the pearl further.
        1. smart ass
          smart ass April 14 2020 21: 01 New
          +8
          I agree with you 100%, just thought maybe it’s a ride ... but no
          1. Shkodnick
            Shkodnick April 14 2020 21: 02 New
            +2
            Yes, there is rather a selfish component, to fill your pocket a little before "lungs into dust"
            1. smart ass
              smart ass April 14 2020 21: 04 New
              20
              I have asthma with 8 years, so I know how to suffocate, I will not wish the enemy.
              1. Sklendarka
                Sklendarka April 14 2020 21: 44 New
                +3
                Quote: Clever man
                I have asthma with 8 years, so I know how to suffocate, I will not wish the enemy.

                C'mon, kid .... I’m from four. So what? PEOPLE with heart disease have become world weightlifting champions.
                An intimate question - what are you sitting on, what is taking?
                1. smart ass
                  smart ass April 14 2020 21: 48 New
                  +5
                  Classics of the salbutamol genre for removal as well as a standard turbuhaler 160 / 4,5 dose I take for 120 doses, a price tag of 2700 rubles. Sometimes instead of salbutamol ventolin, it tastes better
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 April 14 2020 22: 01 New
                    0
                    Quote: Clever man
                    Classic Salbutamol Remover

                    Salbutamol with frequent use of spasm does not relieve. When the exacerbation begins, the first few zilchs really make breathing easier. Further the effect is minimal. request
                    1. smart ass
                      smart ass April 14 2020 22: 04 New
                      11
                      Salbutamol also sets the heart with frequent use. In general, if the lungs are in dust, it is sad. And by the way, I didn’t complain, I just said that I know how people suffocate. All health.
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 April 14 2020 22: 14 New
                        +7
                        Did not know. I only have exacerbation in the spring. This year began earlier, after he had the flu in February. And was it the flu? In general, this winter in Togliatti there were the largest number of SARS epidemics, one after the other, with different secondary symptoms. It hurts his head, he strains his ass, he turns his joints. As if specially poisoned with different strains. The latter gave complications to the respiratory tract, but since February I have been coughing. Moreover, a couple of friends have the same symptoms, they die for more than a month.
                      2. smart ass
                        smart ass April 14 2020 22: 23 New
                        +4
                        If you have exacerbations in the spring, it may be associated with an allergic reaction to flowering. It is better to contact a pulmonologist, will give directions to allergens in the blood. Salt caves and acupuncture does not help verified)))))
                      3. d1m1drol
                        d1m1drol April 15 2020 07: 37 New
                        +2
                        Hello fellow countryman! The same story from December to April three times SARS was ill with the family, once with repeated infection in the family circle) The last case I was lucky I didn’t have time to go to the bronchi, my throat was rinsed every hour, but my wife had been ill a week earlier, but still then coughs. So yes, this year ARVI has been circling in Togliatti all winter) And another countryman, tell me, how do you like the idea of ​​launching AvtoVAZ?) I look from the office, at the crossroads, it feels like the whole city is working)
                      4. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 April 15 2020 07: 52 New
                        +1
                        Quote: d1m1drol
                        And another countryman, tell me, how do you like the idea of ​​launching AvtoVAZ?)

                        Hello Volodya! hi On VAZ what to say - the neighbor went to work. request And the city began to work, you have to eat. And the first days of "self-isolation" were empty, traffic cops turned people back on the way to Yagodnoye and Sancheleevo. Personally, as a self-employed, it is not at all an option for me to sit at home.
              2. Sklendarka
                Sklendarka April 14 2020 22: 17 New
                +2
                I have so-so salbutamol ... Two vials Library + SERETID-multidisk (Saltemerol + Fluticasone 50 mcg + 250 mcg) This is all for inhalation.
                But ... the main thing is not to overshoot !!!
                1. smart ass
                  smart ass April 14 2020 22: 29 New
                  0
                  Seretide is the main thing not to use to relieve seizures like salbutamol or ventolin is a powerful tool
                  1. Sklendarka
                    Sklendarka April 14 2020 22: 33 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Clever man
                    Seretide is the main thing not to use to relieve seizures like salbutamol or ventolin is a powerful tool

                    This remedy is not for relieving seizures, but for prevention.
                  2. Oleg Zorin
                    Oleg Zorin April 14 2020 22: 56 New
                    12
                    Guys, I sympathize with you, but you would be in PM. And then we have here Oh Henry some kind of laughing
                  3. smart ass
                    smart ass April 14 2020 22: 57 New
                    +4
                    I agree)) lit a garbage can
            2. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin April 15 2020 09: 04 New
              0
              Quote: Clever man
              Classic Salbutamol Remover

              Quote: Clever man
              Sometimes instead of salbutamol ventolin, it tastes better

              I apologize to everyone, it really does not seem to be O'Henry, it just might help someone.
              I have not been using these medicines for 15 years. they are canceled.
              Once a day prevention

              With attacks, inhalation

              But when switching to the prevention of seizures NO.
              Questions in PM.
              Be all healthy!
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A April 15 2020 02: 07 New
            +7
            Quote: Skalendarka
            PEOPLE with heart diseases became world weightlifting champions.

            The whole team of Norway on skiing asthmatics (on paper). Moreover, such that they only speak at the Paralympic Games. Because what supports you and allows you to live is a dope for a healthy person involved in sports. But, in the presence of a certificate issued by the government, doping is allowed.
            And who is engaged in doping at the state level - Russia or Norway, expelling "sick" people onto the ski track?

            As for weightlifting, I’ll say it separately, because I’m inside the problem.
            It's not that sick people become champions. It's just that the barbell is a specific sport that develops all muscles, including the heart. And at a certain moment, the effect of the so-called. "bear heart" - hypertrophy of the heart muscle. In practice, everything is simple - even without a load, the heart still works "at maximum speed", which leads to a heap of troubles and, as a result, kirdyk. The way out of the situation is a life sentence to sports.
            My uniform is far from the most neglected, but without a gym, swimming pool, jogging and bicycle there are certain problems. Usually I run a dog every morning (or on a bicycle, the dog is nearby). Days 7-10 without jogging - shortness of breath appears, heaviness behind the sternum, mild angina pectoris.
            So, you cannot become a champion with a congenital heart disease - you cannot even withstand intermediate training (I’m talking about sports of high and highest achievements, not physical fitness and fitness), but you can earn certain problems. Although I don’t consider a lifelong need to run and go to the gym for myself.
      2. riwas
        riwas April 15 2020 05: 36 New
        +1
        “Lungs to dust”

        On another show - Coronavirus - is there immunity_ Doc-current. Release from 09.04.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX.

        Veronika Skvortsova, the head of the Federal Medical and Biological Agency, spoke about the treatment regimen for severe coronavirus pneumonias accompanied by respiratory failure, based on the use of the Dalargin synthetic hexapeptide agonist, a delta-opioid receptor. After 72 hours of the experiment in the control group, all 100% of the animals died from the development of severe interstitial pulmonary edema and alveolitis.
        The introduction of Dalargin allowed a 3,9-fold reduction in the release of pro-inflammatory cytokines (prevention of the "cytokine storm") and significantly increased the survival of animals with acute respiratory distress syndrome. From 70 to 100% of the animals survived with different schemes (IM, IV and aerosol into the lungs) of the drug administration.
        http://fmbaros.ru/press-tsentr/novosti/detail/?ELEMENT_ID=38187
  2. alexmach
    alexmach April 14 2020 23: 32 New
    +8
    But it was necessary to just close the borders at the beginning of the spread

    Just.
    Each complex problem has a simple obvious and completely wrong solution (s)
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 April 15 2020 00: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: alexmach
      Just.
      Every complex problem has a simple obvious and completely wrong solution.

      They have already closed in Ukraine - the result was people rushing into buses and trams - it got even worse, all public transport was canceled, people go by the way. The speed of the spread of the disease - this does not affect ...
  3. Cottodraton
    Cottodraton April 15 2020 04: 42 New
    +9
    No. It was necessary to sit at home in the beginning, and not break into the "tai" to rest. "Tired tourists" brought the infection to my city from Thailand and the UAE ... and for the first week I had to sit at home, and not be caught on barbecue.
    Our people like to look for the guilty, but do not like to look at themselves from the outside. Let us already admit that not only the authorities are to blame, but society as a whole.
    We have 80% of people, despite regalia, titles and education, according to the level of self-awareness at the level of 14 years. No responsibility, some show off. We do not have a mature society. From the government to the people. Both are doing game. That's all. The bitter, offensive and uncomfortable truth.
  • Paul zewike
    Paul zewike April 14 2020 21: 04 New
    +6
    Transdolobit - do not toss the bags. Today is the whole day around the city (I work in the laboratory, went for consumables, signed research contracts) - no, NO TRAFFIC, transdol !!!
    1. Mestny
      Mestny April 14 2020 21: 27 New
      -7
      And these are like he specifically throw.
      And then immediately immediately beneath him the friendly cry of his colleagues.
      They shot back amicably - they left amicably.
      1. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton April 15 2020 04: 47 New
        +2
        Personally, in my area of ​​Irkutsk - there were a lot of people and cars perl somewhere in a huge amount, much more than on weekdays. And if you read the local chat, so generally seams. People are crazy. If necessary, I can give proofs
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov April 14 2020 20: 28 New
    16
    Quote: Doccor18
    And you can only hear from the deputy - do not escalate ...

    Just a deputy for some reason outside the mainstream agitprop.
    Agitprop on the contrary pumps.
  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U April 14 2020 20: 46 New
    18
    And we will not hear from the deputy why the quarantine emergency is not introduced, along with various measures, at least financial, to make life easier for citizens, but those who violated "self-isolation" are already being punished? And funny, well, how funny, ugly against this background, the statement by Lavrov looked about the absence of obstacles to the departure of Russian citizens abroad: "we observe the constitutional right of citizens to freedom of movement." You either put on your panties or take off the cross!
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 April 15 2020 18: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      why is there no quarantine emergency, along with various measures, at least financial, to make life easier for citizens, but those who violated "self-isolation" are already punished?

      And you remember the pension "reform" - at first they raised the age, and the law prohibiting the dismissal of people of this new increased pre-retirement age was introduced only when employers had already fired a bunch, not wanting to keep a person at work for another 10 years ...

      The problem is that our government does NOT think at all, just DOES NOT think when it does something ...
  • Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 April 14 2020 22: 17 New
    +8
    I am impressed .. how Zatulin expresses his thoughts, as a political scientist. delicate, smart, and not annoying. Now it’s a rarity.
  • vkl.47
    vkl.47 April 14 2020 22: 33 New
    0
    An emigrant always has such a pain in his heart about his homeland. He cannot eat.
  • Muddy Seeing ORACLE
    Muddy Seeing ORACLE April 14 2020 23: 57 New
    0
    Yes, "All the World to Dust" and then "Empty Cities" ... belay
    1. anjey
      anjey April 15 2020 01: 36 New
      +1
      Here, here, conspiracy theorists from Freemasonry behind a puddle, and conceived laughing They reformat the whole World with this pandemic. The Russians of perseverance and patience no matter what, and as always contrary to what you see, we’ll stand.
  • Amateur
    Amateur April 14 2020 20: 04 New
    -11
    According to Konstantin Zatulin, the danger from the coronavirus is undeniable, however, escalating the situation with the words “lungs to ruin” is too much.

    The current deputies, as the first secretaries of the rural district committees of the CPSU, were the first specialists in the region on all issues. From astronomy to gynecology. fool
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U April 14 2020 20: 48 New
      +7
      Quote: Amateur
      as the first secretaries of the rural district committees of the CPSU, they were the first specialists in the region on all issues
      Yes, a long time ago they would have introduced an emergency quarantine, no need to be clever about this.
  • Terenin
    Terenin April 14 2020 20: 09 New
    +9
    stated that the data from her pedometer showed she covered 24 km during the working day.
    hard work, no doubt. But, obviously, it is 24 thousand steps (about 10 km). Very hard. Good luck to you doctors and health!
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 14 2020 20: 17 New
      12
      Quote: Terenin
      But, obviously, it is 24 thousand steps (about 10 km). Very hard.

      it's very hard. It's a lot. doctors are really sorry. Respect to all doctors. hi
      1. Terenin
        Terenin April 14 2020 20: 25 New
        24
        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: Terenin
        But, obviously, it is 24 thousand steps (about 10 km). Very hard.

        it's very hard. It's a lot. doctors are really sorry. Respect to all doctors. hi

        hi
        Yes, Grandfather, I look at their tired faces and eyes, how they work for days to save the lives of patients, spend hours in uncomfortable protective suits ... They, like ordinary people, need support.
        Once again, from the pages of the Military Review, I want to thank the doctors, nurses and ambulance drivers for their round-the-clock work during the pandemic. Without exaggeration, Doctors are the heroes of our time!
        1. Roman123567
          Roman123567 April 14 2020 22: 08 New
          +3
          "they, like ordinary people, need support."

          They are ordinary people ..
          Only here usually no one supports people ..
      2. Roman123567
        Roman123567 April 14 2020 22: 06 New
        11
        And as a mechanic, I ran more to a thermal power plant 20 years ago .. in the heat of 50, and with a sledge hammer of 8 kg .. No one was sorry !!
        And in the north is not difficult ?? Or in a mine underground ??
        Once in 20 years people had to work - and immediately tears, snot, pity ..
        1. reservist
          reservist April 14 2020 23: 54 New
          -3
          How many studied at the locksmith?
          We ran in a protective suit, glasses, a mask and a diaper?
          All professions have their own troubles, but at the moment, physicians, however cynical it may sound, is a critical resource for the whole society
          and what happened 20 years ago, after which the doctors stopped working?
          1. Roman123567
            Roman123567 April 15 2020 00: 07 New
            +8
            He studied for 8 years at school, 5 years in college, and already working - at the institute .. He ran in an oiled robe, glasses, and masks .. And if on a sandblast turbines - then he had to wear a protective suit .. Or in a cold pump repair ice water ..
            And now I have a counter-question - to regret it is necessary not for hard work, as they wrote above, but for how many years I had to study before that ??

            I didn’t say that they stopped .. they worked .. and all the others worked .. always ..
            And you correctly said - everywhere their troubles .. Well, now they are at least paid extra for these troubles ..
            And others fool their entire lives unnoticed by others ..

            However, it is customary for us and firefighters to praise after a fire .. they say - heroes ..
            As if their "ordinary" job does not consist precisely in this ..

            Threat. At the expense of criticality .. panic fanned artificially ..
            But is the same CHPP not a critical enterprise for the country ?? And if the nuclear power plant ??
            Questions are rhetorical ..
            1. reservist
              reservist April 15 2020 00: 50 New
              -5
              Quote: Roman123567
              He studied for 8 years at school, 5 years in college, and already working - still at the institute ..
              Did they study at the institute as a locksmith and not as an engineer? about "how many years to study" ... answer honestly who is easier and faster to learn - a locksmith or a doctor? for me it’s like a locksmith, but my head just does not fit the entire amount of information that is stuffed into a student in a medical university ...

              to regret it is necessary not for hard work, as they wrote above, but for how many years I had to study before that ??
              I did not write about "regret" ... I will say differently - you need to respect their work and try very hard now not to complicate it ...

              Well, they are now paying extra for these troubles ..
              not only doctors are now paid extra, the same drivers of "infectious" ambulances are also paid extra ...

              However, it is customary for us and firefighters to praise after a fire .. they say - heroes ..
              As if their "ordinary" job does not consist precisely in this ..
              I suppose that "ordinary" work can also be done in different ways, you can let it burn out and fill in the little brains, or you can try to save at least something ...

              artificially fanned panic ..
              for what purpose do you need to inflate a panic?

              But is the same CHPP not a critical enterprise
              CHPP not working during the heating season is still a critical enterprise ...
              1. Roman123567
                Roman123567 April 15 2020 10: 37 New
                -3
                He studied as an engineer, and worked as a mechanic .. what is incomprehensible ??
                After 20 years, I can safely say - the mechanic was any heavier ..
                And it’s hard to study at all the same way .. for some, the numbers don’t climb your head, for other computers .. and for the third it’s easy at times ..

                Respect labor .. so is it necessary to be respected by anyone .. what is there to talk about again then ??

                Ambulance drivers are the same health workers .. So pay extra ..
                Have you ever been paid extra for your work ?? That's it and that ..

                The work can be done in different ways, yes .. well, why is this ??
                Like, some doctors always do their job well, while others are bad ??
                1. reservist
                  reservist April 15 2020 11: 39 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Roman123567
                  He studied as an engineer, and worked as a mechanic .. what is incomprehensible ??

                  it is not clear why the time of training for an engineer should be indicated as the time required for training as a mechanic ...

                  After 20 years, I can safely say - the mechanic was any heavier ..

                  during the summer holidays, a couple of months at the spinning mill was enough for me to drag my lobe to come to this conclusion ... drinks

                  And it’s hard to study at all the same way .. for some, the numbers don’t climb your head, for other computers .. and for the third it’s easy at times ..

                  I don’t agree, well, I scored on the theory of automatic control, got it either a triple, or an offset, I don’t remember years ago ... in honey, I don’t know how it is now, but before I didn’t do such a trick, you’ll go around and take it until you learn ... you can stay in the second year ...

                  Respect labor .. so is it necessary to be respected by anyone .. what is there to talk about again then ??

                  about the fact that at different times in society there is a different demand for "scarce" specialists ...
                  Now I realized that we need doctors, not lawyers / accountants / managers ...

                  Ambulance drivers are the same health workers .. So pay extra ..

                  since when did the carriers become medical workers?
                  Category B driving license is not a medical diploma ...

                  Have you ever been paid extra for your work ?? That's it and that ..

                  once it was in the 90s ... it was urgent to fly to Yakutsk on New Year's Day, to complete work on a couple of contracts ...

                  The work can be done in different ways, yes .. well, why is this ??
                  Like, some doctors always do their job well, while others are bad ??

                  like it was about firefighters ...
                  although in any specialties there are not only pros ...
                  1. Roman123567
                    Roman123567 April 15 2020 15: 12 New
                    -3
                    Because from school, most of the time they study the same .. and the duration is the same for everyone ..
                    Or are you equal to those who have three classes of education for life ??


                    I also don’t know how to do it in honey, but a couple of years ago they went on TV, how they sell diplomas .. and how sons manage hospitals .. I don’t think that much has changed ..
                    In the same style, some shikars sit .. like they’re all gifted or something ..

                    Now we’ve started thinking about the doctors, right .. But they’ve never grabbed about others .. as I wrote above .. This is their usual job ..

                    Carriers are paid for supposedly risks when transporting patients ..
                    Although they kind of like they should always have been doing this .. It’s not clear to myself .. I repeat - it’s like with firemen ... maybe they should pay extra for trips ..
                    1. reservist
                      reservist April 15 2020 16: 24 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Roman123567
                      from school, most of the time they study the same .. and the duration is the same for everyone ..
                      the fact of the matter is that it is not
                      until the doctor’s diploma, an internship must be chopped off ...

                      I also don’t know how to do it in honey, but a couple of years ago they went on TV, how they sell diplomas .. and how sons manage hospitals .. I don’t think that much has changed ..
                      unfortunately this is true, but the problem of "purchased diplomas" and "boyar sons" is not only about medicine ...

                      Now we’ve started thinking about the doctors, right .. And they’ve never grabbed about others .. about which I wrote above ..
                      others will be remembered when and if the "roast cock bites" ...

                      Carriers are paid for supposedly risks when transporting patients ..
                      Although they kinda should always have been doing this ..

                      so they are not serfs ...
                      I will assume that since there is an increased risk of contracting an infection, then there is no excess of people willing to work on "infectious" machines ...
                      1. Roman123567
                        Roman123567 April 15 2020 17: 14 New
                        -3
                        Doctors are also not serfs .. and firefighters are not serfs ..
                        And the special forces in the hot spot are not serfs ..
                      2. reservist
                        reservist April 15 2020 17: 53 New
                        +1
                        the military took the oath ...
                        physicians, by the way, I don’t know how it is now, but in the days of the USSR they were military liable ...
      3. not main
        not main April 14 2020 23: 59 New
        0
        Quote: Roman123567
        And as a mechanic, I ran more to a thermal power plant 20 years ago .. in the heat of 50, and with a sledge hammer of 8 kg .. No one was sorry !!
        And in the north is not difficult ?? Or in a mine underground ??
        Once in 20 years people had to work - and immediately tears, snot, pity ..

        And it’s hard in the North and it’s hard to wear a sledgehammer in the heat and power plant! Just try to pass half a day, or even more in a mask and glasses! This already causes at least approval, and given that they provided assistance and risking (not jokingly) infected, then we should bow to their feet! It is at least!
        1. Roman123567
          Roman123567 April 15 2020 17: 17 New
          -4
          Not going to try ..
          But if in the next life I go to a doctor or a diver, I’ll go to what should be ..
          At the age of 20, a dentist or genecologist knows what he has to do all his life ..
          The infectionist knows too !!
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 17 2020 04: 13 New
            -1
            Quote: Roman123567
            The infectionist knows too !!

            Distort please? Nude ...
  • novel66
    novel66 April 14 2020 20: 25 New
    +6
    heavy and dangerous! Hi, hello!
    1. Terenin
      Terenin April 14 2020 20: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: novel xnumx
      heavy and dangerous! Hi, hello!

      Good health, Roma! hi
      I help them as I can while sitting at home.
      1. novel66
        novel66 April 14 2020 20: 45 New
        +4
        I'm proud of you!!! I do not do everything that I could!
  • gvozdan
    gvozdan April 14 2020 21: 20 New
    -5
    What are these steps of 40 cm
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka April 14 2020 21: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: gvozdan
      What are these steps of 40 cm

      Brother, this is a military review, and if he served, he must understand that there is such a dimension as a couple of steps, and this (two steps) is equal to ONE meter ...
      Oh, where are my 18 years old?
  • bars1
    bars1 April 14 2020 20: 15 New
    0
    You just need to talk about all the terrible features of the current disease, so that the self-isolation regime is better observed. And the use of cynical medical slang here is more than appropriate.
    1. smart ass
      smart ass April 14 2020 20: 24 New
      10
      Will you stay at home? Will you eat?
      1. bars1
        bars1 April 14 2020 20: 55 New
        -7
        Nobody forbids going to food shops and hospitals. All normal people freak out geeks idly staggering through the streets
        1. smart ass
          smart ass April 14 2020 20: 58 New
          15
          Perhaps you are from another planet, so I will explain. To go to the store you need money. To have money you need to work. To work, you first need to go to work! On our planet, how on your tell?
          1. reservist
            reservist April 15 2020 00: 03 New
            0
            work from home is possible on "my planet"
            but the spouse has a simple, ugly choice - either go to work or quit
            I have to carry it and at the same time go to work myself, since I still drove half a city, and there is something to do at my work ...
            1. Maximilian37
              Maximilian37 April 15 2020 01: 48 New
              -2
              Roman F.M.Dostoevsky, he personifies you by his name
              1. reservist
                reservist April 15 2020 11: 40 New
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                which of the novels of Fedor Mikhailovich would you like to mention?
              2. reservist
                reservist April 16 2020 18: 08 New
                +1
                and without waiting for an answer about the name of the novel, I will assume that in a situation similar to mine, you would either get to work not by car, but by metro


                or one of the family members quits his job and halves the family budget accordingly ...

                dear, and you are not

                by chance?
                1. Maximilian37
                  Maximilian37 April 17 2020 14: 34 New
                  -1
                  You don’t make a fool of yourself, you understood correctly about the novel by F.M. Dostoevsky, if you are a rear rat, then it’s not a problem for you to work from home, but how can a real working person work? to feed a family? video "idio tskoe".
                  1. reservist
                    reservist April 17 2020 15: 04 New
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                    Quote: Maximilian37
                    if you are a rear rat ...
                    wonderful logic, all those who do not work with their hands, write in the rear rats ...
                    But how can a real working person work?
                    how to work ? just like everyone else, either in compliance with all sanitary measures, or sits on the allowance and do not shine until the vaccine is done ...
            2. Grim Reaper
              Grim Reaper April 15 2020 01: 58 New
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              Quote: reservist
              work from home is possible on "my planet"

              Do not tell me how an electrician, plumbing, driver, etc. work from home?

              "All athletes, TV presenters and other superstars can disappear. No one will notice. But if an accident occurs at the overhead power line and one shift on duty does not come to work, you will go to hell."
              S
              1. reservist
                reservist April 15 2020 11: 44 New
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                Quote: Grim Reaper
                Do not tell me how an electrician, plumbing, driver, etc. work from home?
                representatives of these professions are not lucky, they live on "another planet" ...

                ... if an accident occurs on the high-voltage power line and one shift shift does not work, you will go homelessly

                I can’t even get out ...
                I have all the equipment de-energized ...
                so I wish the duty shift not to get sick ...
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  • svp67
    svp67 April 14 2020 20: 16 New
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    Zatulin: Do not scare people!
    Well, of course, why scare it ... Who MOST contributed to the penetration of this infection to us ... are they not so "not shy" who believe that they are "the inhabitants of heaven" will save them anyway ... Today at A nuclear scientist, a native of Yekaterinburg, Daniil Tlisov, died in Moscow, he was only 36 years old ... how much more he could have done ... that's all.
  • Dinic
    Dinic April 14 2020 20: 19 New
    -2
    Correctly Zatulin said. Pump up a tantrum.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 14 2020 20: 27 New
      +8
      Quote: Dinich
      Correctly Zatulin said. Pump up a tantrum.

      Controversial.
      Maybe, on the contrary, it’s worth pumping. so that you don’t shy away along the street?
      1. Dinic
        Dinic April 14 2020 20: 30 New
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        Information must be submitted objectively and not count people as idiots who need to be intimidated. To normal people, they only shake their nerves with this hysteria, and those who roam, they will stray to continue.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 14 2020 20: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: Dinich
          Information must be submitted objectively

          This is not valid.
          1. Dinic
            Dinic April 14 2020 20: 32 New
            +5
            Hysteria is also not working properly.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 14 2020 20: 35 New
              +2
              Quote: Dinich
              Hysteria is also not working properly.

              If it makes you sit at home, it means properly.
              1. Dinic
                Dinic April 14 2020 20: 38 New
                +7
                So does not force the same. There, under my window, drunks both thumped and thumped. Fines can stop - they work, most people sit at home. They are also smart, because they understand that this is necessary, and not because hysteria has acted.
                And those who roamed, rode, they roam, ride.
                1. for
                  for April 14 2020 21: 01 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Dinich
                  Smart still sitting

                  That's right, fools have to work that you did not get sick and sat comfortably.
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                  2. for
                    for April 14 2020 21: 08 New
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                    Quote: for

                    That's right, fools have to work that you did not get sick and sat comfortably.

                    No, you think that smart people are sitting at home.
                    1. Dinic
                      Dinic April 14 2020 21: 18 New
                      +9
                      Thinking for me is not necessary.
                      The fact that smart people sit at home does not make working fools. Fools unnecessarily hang around.
                  3. Dinic
                    Dinic April 14 2020 21: 08 New
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                    Quote: for
                    That's right, fools have to work that you did not get sick and sat comfortably.

                    It is sad that you consider working people to be fools.
                  4. AUL
                    AUL April 15 2020 08: 56 New
                    +3
                    Quote: for

                    That's right, fools have to work that you did not get sick and sat comfortably.

                    It's not about those who go to work. This is also a risk, but a necessary one, without it in any way. But yesterday I went to my stall for bread, opposite the stall in the park. There are three cars in the park (!), A company of 8 people, a table, a drink and a snack, barbecue (!), Mouzon, songs. And they run to the stall for a beer. And what, such people need to be convinced of the need for self-isolation? Here we must "use the power"! After they visited the stall, it was very dumb for me to enter this stall!
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                2. Roman123567
                  Roman123567 April 14 2020 22: 18 New
                  +1
                  Smart people understand that if this virus were so dangerous and contagious, everything would be completely different ..
                  And in the current situation - whoever needs it already, he would have managed to get infected one hundred and fifty times in 2 months ..
                  At 8 in the morning, 1 contagious person in the subway .. at 10 in the morning contagious hundred .. by dinner a thousand .. in the evening tens of thousands ..
                  This is if this 1 infectious from China got into the subway on a teleport .. and if on an airplane, he managed to infect everyone at the airport before ..
                  And who is sitting at home .. so there people can be seen on the flight .. hysterical girls writing to me in the vacats that they don’t want to die, hourly statistics on each new sick person, and other narrow-minded individuals ..
                  At the same time, they are not at all embarrassed that the mortality rate in accidents is several times higher .. for this reason they do not cry for some reason .. And I’m completely silent about other diseases .. KV there is the least dangerous in all numbers from the beginning of the year. .
                  1. Maximilian37
                    Maximilian37 April 17 2020 15: 20 New
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                    all infectious to us by plane flew. Have you seen at least one flight attendant and crew member?
                3. Oleg Zorin
                  Oleg Zorin April 14 2020 23: 02 New
                  -2
                  We need everything together: fines, explanatory work, somewhere the Ministry of Emergency Situations / police to build people in the right place at the checkpoint (so as not to crowd in a bunch), somewhere to scare. Yes, do not refer to drunks - they have different priorities
                  1. Roman123567
                    Roman123567 April 14 2020 23: 16 New
                    +2
                    You can still go to jail to sign up yourself .. if so pulled on masochism ..
                    You wonder just what the box is capable of turning a person into ..
                4. AUL
                  AUL April 15 2020 08: 41 New
                  0
                  Quote: Dinich
                  And those who roamed, rode, they roam, ride.

                  So these dumbass are spreading the infection, and not those "intimidated" who sit at home!
              2. Roman123567
                Roman123567 April 14 2020 22: 11 New
                -4
                At home, only those who are hysterical are locked ..
                All normal people go to work and do business, and do not listen to these nonsense about the mega-terrible virus ..
                1. Grim Reaper
                  Grim Reaper April 15 2020 02: 14 New
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                  Quote: Roman123567
                  At home, only those who are hysterical are locked ..
                  All normal people go to work and do business, and do not listen to these nonsense about the mega-terrible virus ..

                  You will not be heard. Hysteria is not just overblown, it is already above common sense. There are several dozen cases in the Sverdlovsk region. Several million. In a couple of months !! And the introduction of electronic passes is already being discussed. Why? Either quarantine or, as usual, quarantine was announced, and in the morning there is a flea market in the city transport. But at work, wash your hands in "muzzles", do not go into the smoking room more than one, etc. And in the evening, all again in the trams, like sprats.
                  Self-isolation....
                  It’s already a no brainer that the situation with the disease is inflated. But the hysteria continues.
                  I will advise citizens of the Russian Federation to turn off the TV, and on the Internet only to entertainment portals.
                  Calm down!
                  All will be well.
                  1. reservist
                    reservist April 15 2020 11: 58 New
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                    Quote: Grim Reaper
                    In the Sverdlovsk region there are several dozens of cases. For several million. For a couple of months !!

                    Do you think the Urals will somehow be different?
                    1. Alex Justice
                      Alex Justice April 15 2020 18: 00 New
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                      More info here.
                      https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw
                      1. reservist
                        reservist April 16 2020 10: 25 New
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                        there are graphs showing "how much is everything", and not how much it was in a day ...
                        imho, according to the daily indicators, it is clear whether there is an effect from certain measures that were or were absent a couple of weeks ago ...
                    2. Grim Reaper
                      Grim Reaper April 15 2020 21: 00 New
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                      I don’t think so. There will be + - as in the whole country. But no reason to go to bed. What are the media calling us to.
                      1. reservist
                        reservist April 16 2020 10: 40 New
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                        I’m not going to comment on the TV, because I try to watch it to a minimum ...
                        about your phrase
                        Quote: Grim Reaper
                        It’s already a no brainer that the situation with the disease is inflated. But the hysteria continues.

                        I remembered these "reflections", which seemed logical to me
                  2. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack April 17 2020 04: 33 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Grim Reaper
                    Hysteria is not something that is bloated, already above common sense. In the Sverdlovsk region there are several dozens of cases. For several million. For a couple of months !!

                    Um, exactly?


                    I also recommend thinking about why there are such different dynamics in Israel (where everything is very tough), and what kind of thread is in Spain, where the population, by definition, ahem, is used to freedom.

                    Yes, welcome, by the way hi
                2. mortido
                  mortido April 15 2020 03: 51 New
                  +5
                  Indeed, there is a natural fooling of the population, for example, even if the virus is so dangerous for which the injection of this hysteria, enter full quarantine and emergency with all the consequences, but no ... they make ostentatious decisions and carry propaganda as bad all over the world, and in Russia is the best with the fight against the virus
          2. Roman123567
            Roman123567 April 14 2020 22: 10 New
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            No one tried ..
        2. edasko
          edasko April 14 2020 20: 48 New
          +3
          For example, I generally for the maximum number of people hanging around the streets, grilling kebabs, riding the subway. Masks were not worn. I want these to get sick quickly and create an immune layer for me and my loved ones (who will survive). Why should I plant my heart and lungs? Better they do it. You can’t fix them, they are the smartest. Well, let everything happen as quickly as possible.
          1. Roman123567
            Roman123567 April 14 2020 22: 21 New
            -1
            Everyone gets sick, don’t worry ..
            You just get sick later ..
            Or has anyone ever had the flu ?? For the whole winter at home was locked ??)
            1. edasko
              edasko April 14 2020 23: 42 New
              -4
              If I get sick, then - with a weakened virus that mutates on crazy citizens. That's how all viruses work .. Read smart books and listen to what trained people say.
              1. Roman123567
                Roman123567 April 14 2020 23: 51 New
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                Smart people - is it Popov or something ?? He’s trained in a completely different way if you don’t know ..
                You generally begin to read books first .. at least any .. I'm afraid you haven’t seen bindings with so many eyes, how much I managed to re-read ..))

                PS .. apparently, getting sick with the flu in March is easier than in December .. and for that it’s even worth sitting at home for three months .. Very smart books ..))
                1. edasko
                  edasko April 15 2020 01: 13 New
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                  Maybe you saw the bindings, but the good of it? And who is Popov? Well, here you are for starters, the reader - https://reminder.media/post/virusolog-netesov
                  Trained people are virologists who work in specialized laboratories around the world and publish COVID19 research reports. If you can read by theirs, you will find. You can’t - keep quiet.
                  Any experienced reader (you, for example) should know what viruses are in general, how they adapt to their carrier. Where does the flu come from, why do they get sick every year and why vaccinations do not help. When you find out, you’ll stop carrying all kinds of nonsense.
                  1. Roman123567
                    Roman123567 April 15 2020 10: 42 New
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                    If you're so smart, what are you still talking nonsense ??)
                    Every year you had the flu, and didn’t bathe .. and now his new look drove you into a stupor ??
                    Read the mortality reports in the world .. reader .. and relax with this virus already .. Listen to Professor Gundarev at least .. there are chewed for schoolchildren ..
                    And Popov is exactly what nobody .. but for some reason scares people from the screen .. because he has such a job ..

                    And you sort of know that vaccines do not help against flu .. but you continue to hide at home, like an unreasonable child ..
                    1. edasko
                      edasko April 15 2020 11: 01 New
                      +2
                      Any NEW virus infection always leads to exceptional measures, because no one knows how to treat it! Illiterate dumbasses who never studied history repeat like a mantra - everything is in order, everything is as usual. How many epidemics have there been in human history? How many lives have they claimed? Once again I say - learn the materiel! Now this is the situation - a new virus against which people have no antibodies, no immunity. There’s an old flu, but no COVID19! No country in the world knows how to treat it, except for quarantine measures. Clear? Mortality from swine flu was also high, now they get sick without even leaving for sick leave. Look at the burial in bundles in Italy. Doesn't convince too? So stupid in life and it is useless to explain! Go ahead - to barbecue, to go out, hang out, yell songs .. I will only say thank you. Underdeveloped is not enough that they ask you not to hang around, if only (to spit on themselves), because they can infect the elderly, and they will not survive. Here's how to call them?
                      1. Roman123567
                        Roman123567 April 15 2020 15: 10 New
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                        Mortality is not higher than from the flu ..
                        Everything else in your post is just a hysteria .. You have more chances to die under the car - this is the materiel today .. The fact that these HFs have been known for more than half a century has already been said .. how much they exist before that - only God knows ..

                        On the account of which of us is stupid, I have my own conclusions .. Judging by the fact that nothing has come to you of everything written above ..

                        Threat in a year you will remember these words .. how scared Orvi .. And you will understand how you should be called ..
                      2. edasko
                        edasko April 15 2020 21: 23 New
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                        So you don’t know how to read at all !?

                        Now ask someone to read how many have already died, for example, in Italy, USA ..
                      3. Roman123567
                        Roman123567 April 16 2020 12: 18 New
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                        A picture of a month ago .. but if you can (??) - you can go to the site and see the data for today ..
                        And if not laziness at all:

                        Igor Alekseevich Gundarov (born May 11, 1947, Maykop) - MD, Ph.D., professor, specialist in epidemiology and preventive medicine, demography, social psychology, philosophy [1] [non-authoritative source?].

                        Senior Researcher, Research Institute of Public Health and Health Care Management, Moscow Medical Academy I.M.Sechenova, professor at the Academy of Labor and Social Relations, expert on demography of the State Duma of the Russian Federation of the first and second convocations [2], member of the Presidium of the All-Russian Public Council on the Quality of Life of Citizens of the Russian Federation [3] [4]. Coordinator of the Association of Independent Scientists "Russia XX — XXI", laureate of the award of the Union of Writers of Russia (2009). Academician of the Public Academy of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences.


                        Google his video, where he explains everything in Russian .. after which even morons it becomes clear that this virus is a type of INFLUENZA / ARVI .. And the mortality rate on it is simply OBLIGED to reach 300-600 thousand annual indicators (average annual data for the past years )
                      4. Roman123567
                        Roman123567 April 16 2020 12: 23 New
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                        Another moment ... now I’m not too lazy .. folded digits .. From all sores / smoking and other things skillfully more than 8 million. This is not even taking data about 10 million. from abortion ..
                        And from the crown 51 thousand ..
                        Where were the corpses before ?? And how did the morgues cope ?? And why didn’t they bring the refrigerator to the hospitals ?? (favorite movie on tv))
                        I have a request - calculate what percentage takes 51 thousand of, at least, these 8 million .. Actually, of course, the number of coffins in the world is even higher .. but we will not really bring this percentage to zero ..))
                      5. edasko
                        edasko April 16 2020 12: 55 New
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                        What does the death rate from accidents, hunger, abortion, smoking, etc.? This mortality is mainly due to own stupidity. If you want to die, smoke, drink, cross the road anywhere. The famine is caused by social causes and it is impossible to eliminate them, basically they themselves are to blame too - there are too many people. And who argues that covid is the same flu / orvi? Only there is no immunity to it! How much can this be repeated? For completely stupid again - from the old varieties there, but not from that! Clear? Therefore, panic - it is not known how many will die until it appears. Go to Italy and see how they die right now. If you want to infect your mother, father, grandmother, grandfather, neighbors of the elderly - it means mentally disabled. With you personally - it’s not a matter of spitting, the gene pool will be cleaned up only, but you will drag others along with you. If it doesn’t work out for good, then they will drive you into the reservation with sticks and fines, your cleverness does not interest anyone. You are told to sit at home. All! Sit! Although what are we arguing about? I have already said that I want to survive this time at the expense of people like you. I ask you - contrive and walk the streets, fear nothing, all this is nonsense, there is no danger. Grab your friends, lock yourself somewhere with the girls, yell karaoke. Just do not communicate with normal people ..
                      6. Roman123567
                        Roman123567 April 16 2020 15: 18 New
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                        What does the death rate from accidents, hunger, abortion, smoking, etc.?
                        Despite the fact that no one locks people at home from an accident in order to avoid such deaths ... by stupidity, or not ..
                        And nobody takes out cigarettes with booze in hysterical order .. and planting the whole country at home because of much smaller deaths is one or two for the state ..)) Is it possible to think now ??)
                        Purely simple - nicotine means let it kill (even though I myself smoke) - and the mythical virus drives us into the Stone Age ?? Yes, laughter ..

                        Yes, and about the slaughtered morgues with refrigerators .. this is also the statistics of total mortality from all of the above ..
                        They coped with millions of deaths, now suddenly they almost show the crematorium on TV .. What is the conclusion from here ?? Wandered into the board !!

                        And who argues that covid is the same flu / orvi?
                        Well, really ..)) How many would argue just .. In any case, the panic is incomparable ..))

                        Only there is no immunity to it! How much can this be repeated? For completely stupid again - from the old varieties there, but not from that! Clear?
                        Unclear..
                        Where did you come up with this ..))
                        In year 15, the flu / orvi version is 999-999-15
                        In year 16, the new version is 999-999-16
                        A new version?? New .. There is no immunity to it ?? No .. But it's still the same flu / orvi .. and the organisms are adjusting ..
                        Now we have version 999-999-20 .. There is no immunity to it either .. This virus is new in its own way, yes, true .. But it did not fly from Mars, and is completely unknown and terrible for humans !! This, as always before, is just a new modification of the OLD, long living on earth ..

                        Therefore, panic - it is not known how many will die until it appears.
                        He will die as much as he always dies of the flu .. 300-600 thousand a year are normal numbers .. Nothing Outstanding !!

                        If you want to infect your mother, father, grandmother, grandfather, neighbors of the elderly - it means mentally disabled.

                        I thought that you lock yourself at home every winter with a flu outbreak .. so as not to infect anyone .. You are our full-fledged ..))


                        If it doesn’t work out for good, then they will drive you into the reservation with sticks and fines, your cleverness does not interest anyone.


                        What do you mean "good" ??) No one even deigned to declare an emergency .. This already suggests that the authorities do not care that half of the country is walking / driving / working .. So there are no mega-horrors .. What reservations are you talking about there delusional ..))

                        You are told to sit at home. All! Sit!


                        ))) go beat your head upstain .. A lover of sticks ..
                        Judging by the hysteria, you have just turned into the one who happily executes such commands .. Sit, stand, lay, voice .. Just waiting for instructions ..
                    2. edasko
                      edasko April 16 2020 14: 34 New
                      0
                      One freak professor has his own opinion on the epidemic. So what? Such will always be. And others mean suckers and do not understand anything about viruses? So Netesov, one of the best virologists, the director of "Vector", doesn't understand anything?
                      https://youtu.be/zrcHaiSbU6Q
                      I can fit a dozen more professors and academicians ..
                      Just about the situation - https://youtu.be/iBzvqGbmuC8
                      https://youtu.be/uwXU-SCeduo
                      Read and listen.
                    3. Roman123567
                      Roman123567 April 16 2020 15: 20 New
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                      And why is this this freak, and Netesov’s not freaks ??
                      It makes no difference to me which of them is who .. But the reality just coincides more with the opinion of this professor ..
            2. Alex Justice
              Alex Justice April 17 2020 18: 43 New
              0
              Any NEW virus infection always leads to exceptional measures, because no one knows how to treat it!

              Nobody heals her. Only in the event of a severe complication will you be taken seriously. The medicine is one-paracetamol. This is so Australia.
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 April 14 2020 23: 20 New
    +2
    Quote: Spade
    Maybe, on the contrary, it’s worth pumping. so that you don’t shy away along the street?

    Maybe. The video from Italy was quite delivered, where the mayors of some Italian cities (in particular Messina) live on the mother’s mother’s streets covering their alternatively smart townspeople, at least trying to appeal to their prudence. am fellow It would be very curious to hear such an escapade from our Beglov, but the status of the cultural capital puts an end to these hopes ... And some "citizens" (the same schoolboys and students) would not hurt to break in from the heart, so as not to wander about in vain and not get confused underfoot in transport for those who are forced to move around the city (yes, work calls - I did not miss a day, although 70% of the team is away). Pence should be moved from the street to the place of residence with the help of cops, gently and politely, because it is in their own interests.
  • New Year day
    New Year day April 14 2020 20: 30 New
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    Quote: Dinich
    Correctly Zatulin said. Pump up a tantrum.

    What kind of people! They don’t tell the truth, they hide it, they say the truth, they pump it up. I’ll tell you so: they tell you 50-60 percent of the truth in a box. If you tell the truth 100 percent, hang yourself, God forbid, or go to the assault. I speak in the first person, just returned from the hospital
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 14 2020 20: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Silvestr
      I’ll tell you this: they say 50-60 percent of the truth to you in a box.

      And she is needed now, is this this?
      It is necessary to ensure that people do the right thing. And the box should do exactly that.

      True ... then you can figure it out if you want.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day April 14 2020 20: 57 New
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        Quote: Spade
        And she is needed now, is this this?

        in fact of the matter! True, the thing is expensive and dangerous.
        The doctor must tell the patient the whole truth in order to receive informed consent person.
        But an oncological patient sometimes doesn’t need the truth, he must believe in recovery.
      2. Roman123567
        Roman123567 April 14 2020 22: 25 New
        +5
        Leshchenko fell ill at a party .. none of the dozens of people got infected there anymore .. lots of stories, PR ..
        Following a video - some unknown uncle "recovered" .. they say, he was at a party, then it became bad .. at home he infected the children and wife .. relatives .. then I learned that a lot of people were infected at the party ..
        Such a selective virus here ... ideal for TV ..))
        What a sucker will believe it at all ??)
        1. reservist
          reservist April 15 2020 00: 11 New
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          Quote: Roman123567
          What a sucker will believe it at all ??)

          anyone when this happens to those he personally knows ...
          1. Roman123567
            Roman123567 April 15 2020 00: 14 New
            0
            Well, firstly, while no one knows anyone, not only personally, but even through three acquaintances ..
            How many stars and politicians died ??
            Really famous .. Where is at least a dozen ?? At least one to the country ..
            Who are we talking about ?? And what about ??

            Well, the second .. even if they die .. Didn’t they die before ?? Did not get sick ??
            Maybe we decided to eradicate death on the planet ?? Judging by the scale of the boil - no less ..
            1. reservist
              reservist April 15 2020 00: 22 New
              0
              three infected at work ...
              Yesterday the second time I passed the test ... until they found nothing ...
      3. AUL
        AUL April 15 2020 09: 17 New
        +3
        Quote: Spade
        And she is needed now, is this this?
        It is necessary to ensure that people do the right thing. And the box should do exactly that.

        Needed! And in the most severe form. Not a dull mumble on the sididom's durovizor, but to show shots of the agony of people dying from covid. Unaesthetic, say? Intolerant? Is it cruel? But, if this cruelty helps to save at least a thousand lives, it is justified! The level of indifference in society will knock down a little, you see, and with less losses we will get out of this dupa.
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 18 2020 19: 13 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      I’ll tell you so: they tell you 50-60 percent of the truth in a box. If you tell the truth 100 percent, hang yourself, God forbid, or go to the assault. I speak in the first person, just returned from the hospital

      So say it. Truth-womb, what is stopping?

      Suddenly I really go and hang myself yes

      Not a joke, really interesting.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 14 2020 20: 33 New
    +9
    That's right, to pump something. Now 2500 new patients per day. Now, when it’s 25000 a day, then we’ll yell, they didn’t immediately warn us, we are not experts, we didn’t know. And now the doctors say, oh well, don’t escalate ....
    1. Dinic
      Dinic April 14 2020 20: 35 New
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      This is not 2500 new patients per day, this is 2500 positive test results. More analyzes - more results. In fact, there are many more infected, but most will suffer the disease in a mild form.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 18 2020 19: 14 New
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        Quote: Dinich
        In fact, there are many more infected, but most will have a mild illness

        I wonder why Sylvester is silent? what
    2. Avior
      Avior April 14 2020 21: 02 New
      +2
      And now the doctors say, oh well, don’t escalate ..

      Is Zatulin a doctor?
      1. SokolfromRussia
        SokolfromRussia April 15 2020 13: 33 New
        0
        Deputy, deputy chairman, special representative.
        1. Avior
          Avior April 15 2020 13: 34 New
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          I know
          they just wrote that doctors say it, and Zatulin says above in the article
  • Reserve officer
    Reserve officer April 14 2020 20: 51 New
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    Look at your leisure - https://yotu.be/OEEHg9JhUhc. "Professor Gundarov: Coronavirus has nothing to do with it - the policy of the authorities provokes a total pandemic."
    Very clearly everything is laid out on the shelves. And about information hysteria, and about the disease itself.
  • Sklendarka
    Sklendarka April 14 2020 21: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: Dinich
    Correctly Zatulin said. Pump up a tantrum.

    And I'm for the whole vibe infection. Panic ... such a thing ...
  • Oleg123219307
    Oleg123219307 April 14 2020 20: 22 New
    +9
    Another member of the studio from among politicians - deputy Aleksey Zhuravlev, commenting on the emotional words of a woman from Italy, made a remark about the following content: “it is gratifying how a woman who is in Italy takes care of Russia ...”
    What are they well done to criticize everyone and for everything. Female doctor. Saves lives, even in Italy. Or wasn’t that where our own government sent the doctors itself? Or did we ourselves allow immigration? And after all, she does not scream, go all out to the street or to the temple there God will save you as our priests, she warns you stay at home or run into us like us. No, you have to crap her for this ...
  • Tusv
    Tusv April 14 2020 20: 26 New
    +2
    - Doctor, I have a runny nose and weakness
    - You, old man, wimp and jerk

    What a terrible nightmare. Curly and beer end earlier than groceries, bread even earlier than beer and smoke. How to live with it
  • New Year day
    New Year day April 14 2020 20: 26 New
    23
    Zatulin would better tell how Ukraine profiled. And now he is climbing into medicine.

    rate

    pneumonia.
    In the exudative (early) stage: the lungs are dark red in color, of a dense consistency, airless. Multiple hemorrhages in the alveoli.
    In the productive (late) stage: Granulation tissue grows into the lumen of the alveoli and bronchioles. The organization of fibrinous exudate is characteristic, as a result of which intra-alveolar fibrosis develops.
    In short, the lungs lose their oxygen exchange function. So - to dust. 5-10% have a fatal outcome.
    The trouble is that coronavirus causes decompensation of other organs and systems. That is why mortality is so high after 60 years.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo April 14 2020 20: 44 New
      +7
      The top shot of a male, elderly person and not quite the norm. Lower middle-aged woman, pneumonia in a patient with coronovirus, onset.
      1. Grim Reaper
        Grim Reaper April 15 2020 02: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Balu
        The top shot of a male, elderly person and not quite the norm. Lower middle-aged woman, pneumonia in a patient with coronovirus, onset.

        I am surprised at the trained eye of doctors.
        Three years ago, he broke his leg, how he broke, slipped, fracture without displacement, he hobbled to injury. I thought that type of dislocation. Snapshot, diagnosis. I ask the doctor where this fracture is in the picture. Shows. Pretended to be clear, he’ll see the blind. Nodded.
        A month later, a new picture, the doctor remembers me, he says, all the lights and the picture shows. He nodded again. As usual cognac set.
        That's just so far. Two identical pictures. Like two drops of pepper ... Well for my eyes .....;)
        1. Baloo
          Baloo April 15 2020 07: 00 New
          +3
          Quote: Grim Reaper
          I am surprised at the trained eye of doctors.

          They taught well. And now, without exception, the whole hospital is being dragged to the crown. The picture of coronovirus pneumonia is different from the usual.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 15 2020 07: 57 New
            +1
            Quote: Balu
            The picture of coronovirus pneumonia is different from the usual.

            Much worse, or not really?
            1. Baloo
              Baloo April 15 2020 08: 29 New
              +4
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: Balu
              The picture of coronovirus pneumonia is different from the usual.

              Much worse, or not really?

              She is interstitial. foci of edema, gas exchange is disturbed, foci merge, the lung swells, then the bacterial flora finishes. First, foci in the lower sections and on the periphery, then in the basal sections. Where the level of blood supply is slower, there is a beginning. That is why the elderly and those who are in good condition with their vessels and heart, chronicles, suffer first and harder. Thanks to vaccination from childhood, most of us have a fairly high level of immunity + quarantine measures + while there is no warm weather in most regions. Therefore, we have such a picture more or less successful. Peak failed. Take care of yourself. The mask will not save from the virus, but will save from particles of saliva with the virus. Therefore, masks must be changed or washed and ironed (reusable).
    2. bars1
      bars1 April 14 2020 20: 58 New
      +2
      Ukraine was profiled by someone higher and you know the full name of this person.
    3. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin April 14 2020 23: 16 New
      -1
      A week ago. My classmate, professor, dmn writes in the chat: "Today we removed a patient who was intubated on March 15 from the IVL, ugh, ugh, ugh. He has few lungs, it's true."
  • primaala
    primaala April 14 2020 20: 51 New
    0
    You have to tell the truth. And in vain gave the order - at the discretion of the regions.
    One will act correctly and strictly, the other will react anyhow as "I do not believe".
    So it turns out, some in the forest, some for firewood. And the "crown" boldly strides across the country. And around the world.
    1. awdrgy
      awdrgy April 14 2020 21: 11 New
      0
      What will the retirees of the RHB defense say (it’s clear that the current ones cannot speak) if there are any on the forum?
  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish April 14 2020 21: 03 New
    +6
    A bit of history. Here is a photo of the twin towers that turned to dust after the September 11th attack.


    These steel columns were incredibly thick-walled — each wall was 2,5 inches (6,35 cm) thick, so the total thickness of each of the columns was 5 inches (12,7 cm). To imagine how much this is, here is a good example for comparison: the frontal armor of the best of the tanks of the Second World War - the T-34 - was only 1,8 inches (4,5 cm) and it was single-walled.

    So, we have a military site. Question: if we fill all these columns with explosives, all 130 floors and tear, what will happen? What happened to the T-34 tank, which exploded ammunition? Correctly! The tower flew off, and pieces of armor, the skeleton of the tank, as a rule, remained.
    And then everything turned into microscopic dust.

    Why am I all? Maybe we know little about the virus?
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 April 14 2020 21: 34 New
      +5
      Buildings demolished by controlled blast. Moreover, the fall of one of the buildings was reported 20 minutes before this happened.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv April 14 2020 22: 48 New
        -7
        Quote: glory1974
        Buildings demolished by controlled blast. Moreover, the fall of one of the buildings was reported 20 minutes before this happened.

        What are you? What are the upscale miners in America. and they’re not afraid of a fig. Quickly calculated and put the charges in the right places. And all this in 20 minutes. Yes, in a panic. Build a house of cards. Cleverly remove one card at 9/10 height. Need a controlled blast? They held the reinforcement for 20 minutes, then several hundred-ton construction collapsed to the lower floors and there was no conspiracy theory. Simple physics
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 April 14 2020 23: 01 New
          +3
          Need a controlled blast? They held the reinforcement for 20 minutes, then several hundred-ton construction collapsed to the lower floors and there was no conspiracy theory. Simple physics

          About the conspiracy theory is said by the Americans themselves, including Trump. Prior to the presidential election, he argued that the building itself could not be so destroyed.
          About "2 minutes the armature held" did not understand. I said that in a live report from an American television company, it was claimed that the 3rd skyscraper, which stood behind the twin towers, collapsed, but the video shows that it is still standing and fell only after 20 minutes.
          The towers collapsed at a speed close to the speed of free fall, but this could not happen, because there are hundreds of beams, as in the photo. Elementary Physics.
          1. Tusv
            Tusv April 14 2020 23: 13 New
            -4
            Quote: glory1974
            The towers collapsed at a speed close to the speed of free fall, but this could not happen, because there are hundreds of beams, as in the photo. Elementary Physics.

            Well, everyone has their own physics. Several thousand tons fall with the acceleration of free fall by four meters, the design of the lower floors is no longer a monolith. and with each floor the weight increases. It’s quite physics explained. But deliver the miners in 20 minutes. here it doesn’t fit in my head
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 15 2020 07: 41 New
              +1
              Quote: Tusv
              But deliver the miners in 20 minutes. here it doesn’t fit in my head

              And why did you decide that mining was carried out in 20 minutes, and not in 2-5 hours? And not until the fall, but before the collision of the aircraft?
        2. Baloo
          Baloo April 15 2020 08: 35 New
          0
          Quote: Tusv
          Simple physics

          Fragments of termite were found during the analysis of the head. For a couple of weeks, "electricians" worked in the building on all floors. And finally, within a few weeks the building was resold and reinsured in 24 companies within XNUMX hours. The terrorists did not go through face control at the airport, but ended up on the plane. A female FBI agent has repeatedly signaled about strange Arabs who refused to learn to land a plane, but only learned to take off and pilot. The journalists never found her. In the west, in the first three years, dozens of investigations on this topic were published.
    2. Tusv
      Tusv April 14 2020 22: 21 New
      -1
      Quote: Old Horseradish
      And then everything turned into microscopic dust.

      This is not exactly what the "blank shot" into the tank. How many thousand tons weigh 20 floors. that crap falls on other floors, those others do not stand up and the weight only increases on each floor. Here comes the dust
      1. Old Horseradish
        Old Horseradish April 14 2020 22: 45 New
        +5
        I correctly understood that all this steel from which it is possible to make more than one thousand T-34 tanks due to the fact that "crap falls on other floors, those others do not stand" and everything "turns to dust." Congratulations! You have made a new discovery in physics.

        I did not write that "a blank hit the tank" I wrote that "the tank was filled with explosives and it detonated."
        KGB officer Khalezov wrote a whole book about the demolition of twin towers. Read. Indeed there was a controlled demolition. And millions of tons of armored steel really evaporated and turned into microscopic dust.

        A detailed view of the very surviving steel supporting peripheral assembly, which crumbles into powder, but shot with another video camera at a slightly more favorable angle.

        As for the virus, then to whom is it all profitable, it is from there that the legs grow.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv April 14 2020 22: 54 New
          -6
          Well so shake a bottle of champagne. What will happen? Will the bottle go to smithereens? And with the building. Throw a cobblestone on a sand castle, what will happen?
        2. Oleg Zorin
          Oleg Zorin April 14 2020 23: 21 New
          -1
          I understand that you are blaming Nature. Because from her point of view, the elderly and painful subjects are ballast. And to get rid of them to her, Nature, is beneficial. But you can’t deceive Nature, it has its own laws.
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  • restless
    restless April 14 2020 21: 20 New
    10
    The general designer of the S-125 air defense system, citizen Alexander Efimovich Rokhlin of the Obukhov plant, died in quarantine in St. Petersburg and was summoned to a meeting on April 7 in Moscow, after which he returned to the cottage and fell ill with his wife and granddaughter, and died on April 11, his wife and granddaughter resuscitation, diagnosis: coronovirus. There was a good man at the factory a day of mourning ...
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka April 14 2020 21: 53 New
      -1
      Quote: restless
      The general designer of the S-125 air defense system, citizen Alexander Efimovich Rokhlin of the Obukhov plant, died in quarantine in St. Petersburg and was summoned to a meeting on April 7 in Moscow, after which he returned to the cottage and fell ill with his wife and granddaughter, and died on April 11, his wife and granddaughter resuscitation, diagnosis: coronovirus. There was a good man at the factory a day of mourning ...

      And how old is the general?
  • Klingon
    Klingon April 14 2020 21: 33 New
    +4
    Quote: Shkodnick
    And it was all that was necessary to close the borders at the beginning of distribution, but no, Aeroflot and the like were allowed to earn extra money on transportation a little bit more, while the pandemic still did not smell ... Bullshit, we are waiting for the pearl further.

    quite right, while the German Special Flight from Wuhan which flew was shamefully not allowed to
    Quote: Shkodnick
    And it was all that was necessary to close the borders at the beginning of distribution, but no, Aeroflot and the like were allowed to earn extra money on transportation a little bit more, while the pandemic still did not smell ... Bullshit, we are waiting for the pearl further.

    absolutely right! the borders were not closed, and at the same time SHAME did not allow the German board, flying on a special flight from Wuhan, to refuel at Sheremetyevo under a completely far-fetched pretext, they say, "we have a lot of work now", while sending help to the striped ones ... understand the logic of our government. misunderstanding of the situation and completely inability to make adequate decisions. one pathos. 15 boards to Italy, when their own regions are not provided !!! And as they put on the doctors, they continue to do so, neither an increase in salary nor ... then they wonder why doctors go to Geyrop, but because in Geyrop a nurse (!!!) receives from 2000 to 3000 € not counting benefits and subsidies and not miserable 15 thousand wooden. best case scenario
  • Brigadier
    Brigadier April 14 2020 21: 49 New
    -2
    Who is destined to burn, he will not drown!
    (Popular wisdom.)
    1. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy April 14 2020 21: 56 New
      +1
      This is not a reason to throw your head at the ax))
      1. Roman123567
        Roman123567 April 14 2020 23: 29 New
        +3
        Right..
        In traffic accidents many times more die than from HF, but not a single house is self-insulated in order to survive ..))
  • Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy April 14 2020 21: 56 New
    +1
    You said correctly. K. Zatulin is one of the most adequate Russian politicians.

    And about the metro - comrade. from Novosibirsk, apparently, has a poor idea of ​​what Moscow is. You can’t close the metro - this is the transport artery of the city
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 April 14 2020 22: 01 New
    +5
    Out of my ear I listened to this program ..
    To say that heresy is being driven on us on TV is to say nothing .. They just simply trash people’s brain with this virus ..
    Of course .. "light to dust" .. this can be repeated 10 times for the sake of ratings ..
    Anyone who has even watched and listened to Popov / Soloviev at least a few times knows that their brains have been in ruins for a long time .. but they live anyway ..
  • Well done
    Well done April 14 2020 22: 22 New
    +6
    Everything, literally, everyone is right. One nishtyak to me. I’m disabled, a veteran of the database, I receive a pension of 8900 and when Sobyanin broadcasts to me ... but I'm not a Muscovite! I’m sitting with my daughter ... things are bad, but you shouldn’t panic. Fuck than me - you need to look. So reading your snot makes me sick. Colleagues, remember the oath.
  • Azazelo
    Azazelo April 14 2020 22: 28 New
    -3
    Tell the residents of New York ...
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 April 14 2020 23: 31 New
      -1
      What is there in New York ??
      I suppose the corpses on the streets, the morgues are crowded ?? Is the refrigerator still standing near the hospital ??
  • Oleg Zorin
    Oleg Zorin April 14 2020 22: 52 New
    0
    Mr. Zatulin, as I understand it, is a historian by education. Attitude to medicine is only as a patient. Therefore, the value of his opinion on the epidemic of a new virus is zero. In vain did none of the experts present explain this to the historian Zatulin.
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 April 14 2020 23: 33 New
      +1
      And there were specialists ??) Is Popov screaming about dust - a specialist ??
      Let’s better teach history .. at least they will know how many people died in the past years in the world, and from what ..
      Zatulin hinted at this to them ..
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 14 2020 23: 38 New
    0
    At VO discuss TV programs with deputies ....?
    But there is a video with professional explanations of doctors.
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    Police activity April 15 2020 03: 19 New
    -2
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  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 15 2020 04: 50 New
    0
    Konstantin Zatulin on the air "60 minutes" on the coronavirus: Do not scare people!

    As already zadolbali these populists. They will explain everything, they will find all the guilty ... Watch and listen to competent people:
  • Ural resident
    Ural resident April 15 2020 07: 23 New
    +2
    Our government was afraid to take measures in time, so now we are reaping the whole economy in ruin. It was clear from China that it would reach us, the border with China was closed, and our citizens were taken to quarantine. It was necessary to close the rest of the borders and forbid tourist trips, and those who still decided to go by signature would be forced quarantine upon return. Even if people get the money back, it would be less for the budget. They simply did not want to annoy the people in anticipation of the vote. They are praising Solovyov, but in fact, as always, they are patching holes; nobody prepared in advance. A set of elementary measures is presented as an unprecedented achievement, although in other countries they are fighting not worse, there is even something to learn. I won’t be surprised if in the end it lasts longer for us than in the whole world and with great damage, because the authorities have not seen any kind of planning, analytics and forecasting the situation for a long time, only a belated reaction to events and so on everywhere in all areas .
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth April 15 2020 09: 11 New
    0
    Quote: AUL
    Here we must "use the power"! After they visited the stall, it was very dumb for me to enter this stall!

    [media = https: //www.zhukvesti.ru/articles/detail/19843/]
    I can’t insert sad
    That would be indicative of someone to punish. In Zhukovsky, the patient faded from the hospital, drank cognac ....
  • sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 15 2020 10: 33 New
    0
    commenting on the emotional words of a woman from Italy

    The fact of the matter is that in emotions only emotions, instead of calmly explaining to people the rules of behavior by PROFESSIONALS and only them.