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The devastating consequences of a pandemic for the Russian economy

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The coronavirus pandemic and the collapse in oil prices have led the world to a new economic crisis. In Russia, the socio-economic situation is also deteriorating, but our country has yet to face the most serious consequences of quarantine measures.


Not so long ago, the Chairman of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation, Valentina Matvienko, tried to reassure the Russians: they say that even with low oil prices, our country will be able to overcome the economic crisis. The Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov is talking about the same thing, but the head of the Accounts Chamber Alexei Kudrin, on the contrary, is predicting Russia's economic recession. This means that economic growth in the country will stop, or maybe a decline will begin, a rollback to the indicators of bygone years. Business Ombudsman Boris Titov does not rule out that Russia's GDP will decline by at least 10%.

For the global economy, the spring of 2020 was disastrous. Measures to protect against the epidemic have led many countries to actually close their borders, minimize transport links, and stop entire business lines. Even China’s “world factory” is not going through the best of times and is just trying to recover from the devastating effects of quarantine measures.

Russia was no exception. Moreover, it is worth considering that our country is seriously dependent on oil exports, but the demand for oil and its refined products is falling under quarantine measures, and prices have simply fallen. Even Vladimir Putin admits that falling oil prices has become a serious challenge for the country.

What are the consequences of the economic crisis caused by the pandemic in our country? Already, it can be argued that unemployment will increase significantly. The introduced self-isolation regime has already led to the suspension or complete cessation of the activities of many businesses, especially those engaged in such areas as tourism, hotels and hotels, transportation, catering, trade in non-food goods, sports and leisure, repair and decoration works for private owners. A significant part of the workers was left without work, and many may be cut in the very near future.

The second direct consequence of the crisis is a reduction in household incomes. VEB RF experts predict that in April-June 2020, real incomes of Russians will be reduced by 17,5%. But these are very approximate figures averaged. Indeed, for many citizens employed in the industries mentioned above, incomes have already decreased by at least 50%.

Inflation is another consequence of the pandemic. And now we are not talking about speculation with ginger, masks or lemons, but about raising prices for a significant part of the most important food and non-food products. An increase in the value of the dollar and the euro, combined with logistical problems, will increase the price of imported goods.

The decline in income, also against the backdrop of inflation, is followed by a drop in the purchasing power of the population. Demand for goods decreases, which naturally entails a decrease in supply. For example, now analysts have noted a decrease in average spending by Russians by 30%. It is clear that millions of workers sent to self-isolation without paying wages will only buy vital food and medicine.

Unfortunately, the leadership of the country does not have any coherent anti-crisis program. This is evidenced by the statements of the head of state and the actions of regional leaders on the ground. The only thing that the authorities can do so far is to slightly reduce the potential growth of social tension by paying various benefits during self-isolation and easing the tax burden.

But here everything is relative: most banks did not provide any credit holidays to their borrowers, and the president signed a law on taxing interest on deposits of citizens over 1 million rubles. And this is also indicative: 1-2 million rubles may lie in the bank with the most ordinary hard worker, who has been saving them all his life or selling, for example, a hereditary apartment. As for the real rich, they both withheld and will withhold their true incomes.

Sanctions of the West may become an additional threat to the Russian economy: it is possible that the United States will try to take advantage of a difficult situation (which, incidentally, is not easy for the Americans themselves) to deliver another blow to the Russian economy.

Now the country's leadership is faced with the main task: to prevent a social catastrophe in the country and, as a result, political destabilization against the backdrop of the economic crisis. Therefore, of course, funds from the National Wealth Fund will be thrown to overcome the consequences of the pandemic. A separate question: how much of these funds will be enough in case of a protracted economic crisis.
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  1. Kronos
    Kronos April 14 2020 16: 25 New
    10
    All so case article
    1. Teberii
      Teberii April 14 2020 16: 36 New
      +7
      Everything now depends on the time how long the isolation is, the longer the worse. It concerns not only us but the whole world.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather April 14 2020 16: 39 New
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        The coronavirus pandemic and the collapse in oil prices have led the world to a new economic crisis. In Russia, the socio-economic situation is also deteriorating, but our country has yet to face the most serious consequences of quarantine measures
        By the fall, I think it will not be very good (said as softly as possible)
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins April 14 2020 16: 49 New
          19
          And how I was "minus" a couple of weeks ago for a negative forecast! And this despite the fact that I am an optimist and always hum to myself "... And do not rush to bury us ...")))
        2. den3080
          den3080 April 14 2020 17: 02 New
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          Quote: Dead Day
          The coronavirus pandemic and the collapse in oil prices have led the world to a new economic crisis. In Russia, the socio-economic situation is also deteriorating, but our country has yet to face the most serious consequences of quarantine measures
          By the fall, I think it will not be very good (said as softly as possible)

          yes, you are probably right.
          I note that now everyone lives by inertia, post jokes on the Internet, go to barbecue on the "weekend", there is still some money.
          The consequences will become tangible somewhere in June-July and beyond.
          The government does not really know what to do with all this; such an impression consists of a careful review of the news flow. So, now, then, here's another way ...
          The population is still silent and submissive, mainly. And this is good. How much is enough? - a question.
          But this happens all over the world, not only in Russia.
          1. the most important
            the most important April 14 2020 19: 17 New
            +4
            Quote: den3080
            The government doesn’t really know what to do with all this,

            Let’s say more precisely: it does not know what to do at all. Why didn’t the borders be closed at the very beginning? Why was air communication with other countries until the last days? Why did tourists fly away to the seas when the virus already mowed down hundreds of people around the world? There are no answers from the authorities to this question. And everything is very simple ... whose Aeroflot ?? Do not forget another famous family? How could it be possible to break the business of respected people ... And now thousands of people are sitting abroad and not a single telephone of the services called to deal with them is answering. Today he himself spoke with such poor fellow in Thailand. And the self-isolation mode ??? The regime is certainly strange, but at least something ... But people are wandering the streets, especially young people. And no one cares about this in power. Today, at 60 minutes, we showed Ryazan, where a half-city walks and has fun ... But then they walk not only there, but throughout the country and in the program data was shown from everywhere. And everywhere a mess! Soon means a bitter hangover will come, and there, as it already comes in Moscow and its environs. Do the governors not know that it is necessary to stop such festivities? Either they don’t know (stupid), or everything on the drum (also stupid), or the whole struggle with the virus only on paper. But the virus does not hide. not to hide. And officials should understand that they are at risk. Ordinary people have long been hardened by problems, but officials in soft chairs have long lost some of the immunity from a good life. They, of course, will be treated much better, but no disease passes without a trace. Nevertheless, if they gave more power to the places, then one must ask strictly, not wait until hundreds of people begin to die somewhere in the region.
            1. Aag
              Aag April 14 2020 19: 55 New
              +2
              The main.
              Your emotional commentary caused an overwhelming desire to respond to you just as emotionally!
              But, on points, you yourself contradict yourself.
              Therefore, understand it yourself. But the most important thing :-).
            2. DymOk_v_dYmke
              DymOk_v_dYmke April 14 2020 21: 58 New
              0
              Quote: the most important
              And the self-isolation mode ??? The regime is certainly strange, but at least something ... But people are wandering the streets, especially young people. And no one cares about this in power. Today, at 60 minutes, we showed Ryazan, where a half-city walks and has fun ... But then they walk not only there, but throughout the country and in the program data was shown from everywhere. And everywhere a mess! Soon means a bitter hangover will come, and there, as it already comes in Moscow and its environs. Do the governors not know that it is necessary to stop such festivities?

              Emotionally, of course, but not those celebrations need to be stopped.
              It is necessary to stop the stupid festivities of "policemen" with democratizers,
              stop walking and pestering maskless TV correspondents to passers-by,
              and instead drive those and others to the streets for free distribution of masks.
              1. not main
                not main April 14 2020 23: 27 New
                +3
                Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                stop walking and pestering maskless TV correspondents to passers-by,
                and instead drive both to the streets for free distribution of masks.

                The mask does not save! It can help if infected in a mask! A healthy person can help OZK or L-1. Unfortunately, I don’t know modern remedies, but these are also valid. That's only live in them, you can only a limited time!
                1. malyvalv
                  malyvalv April 15 2020 09: 22 New
                  +4
                  30% have no idea that they are infected. Therefore, everything must be masked.
                  China and Korea have long been proven to everyone about masks. Well, except for the most stupid of course.
            3. not main
              not main April 14 2020 23: 16 New
              +3
              Quote: the most important
              And everything is very simple ... whose Aeroflot ?? Do not forget another famous family? How could it be possible to break the business of respected people ... And now thousands of people are sitting abroad and not a single telephone of the services called to deal with them is answering. Today he himself spoke with such poor fellow in Thailand.

              But what ... they flooded in Thailand? Now, SAVE! The poor fools are brainless. You need to think before that! And after ... don't shed tears. But rested well! So go on, no one objects.
            4. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova April 15 2020 07: 50 New
              +1
              here and let dumbheads die out !!! it is said to sit at home on self-isolation if they don’t want it, then they’re not sorry
              1. atalef
                atalef April 15 2020 10: 38 New
                -2
                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                here and let dumbheads die out !!! it is said to sit at home on self-isolation if they don’t want it, then they’re not sorry

                what is the difference, with an incubation period of 3 weeks and 50% of asymptomatic carriers of the virus, given that the vaccine will appear no earlier than in a year - everything will take hold.
                So, in my opinion, the better — the sooner — the quicker to let the population get sick. try to protect the most risky groups, i.e. people aged 60+. and the rest to work.
                Otherwise, the economy will collapse, but it will not save everyone from infection.
                1. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova April 15 2020 12: 31 New
                  -1
                  yeah, let's die every 20 but the economy is intact, do not care for this economy !!! it is not without a virus in Russia
                  1. atalef
                    atalef April 15 2020 12: 38 New
                    -4
                    Quote: Nastia Makarova
                    yeah let's every 20 die

                    Why is every 20th?
                    In general - every 30th, from among the diseased.
                    Quote: Nastia Makarova
                    oh, but the economy is intact, do not care for this economy!

                    if the economy is bent, there will be nothing to cure.

                    Quote: Nastia Makarova
                    it is not without a virus in Russia

                    don't go down to baby talk.
                    I can tell you in the same vein - like there’s no virus request
                    1. Nastia makarova
                      Nastia makarova April 16 2020 09: 28 New
                      0
                      every 30 is 5 million people !!! therefore, the economy nafig, if you can’t make money in quarantine, then you can’t live without it
            5. CSKA
              CSKA April 15 2020 11: 22 New
              +6
              Quote: the most important
              Why didn’t the borders be closed at the very beginning?

              And when did this beginning begin? With the PRC, the border was immediately blocked as soon as serious problems began in Wuhan, even the virus went all over the PRC.
              Quote: the most important
              Why was air communication with other countries until the last days?

              Last days is when? Was this a special date?
              Quote: the most important
              Why did tourists fly away to the seas when the virus already mowed down hundreds of people around the world?

              So you are at these stupid and ask why when problems started in Italy, they rushed on hot vouchers there.
              Quote: the most important
              There are no answers from the authorities to this question.

              The answers? Yes, from all screens every day they shouted that do not go abroad due to a difficult situation and this is when the number of people infected in the same Italy did not even reach a thousand. Quarantined and so what? People on barbecue plump. Is the power also to blame? Perhaps it was necessary, as in India, with batons on the head for violation of quarantine? So the same as you would yell about what kind of bad power we have and the Russian Guard.
              Quote: the most important
              Aeroflot whose ?? Do not forget another famous family?

              Oh, and whose Aeroflot? And what does he not fly now?
              Quote: the most important
              And nobody cares about power

              Yes, it’s direct that the authorities are to blame for everything. Of course, not these that walk the streets. And now the government has introduced heavy fines and whining began about what they have the right to. And now the authorities will introduce measures in India and nagging from people like you will say that oh people were beaten.
              Quote: the most important
              Do governors not know that it is necessary to stop such festivities?

              Oh yes no need to exaggerate. We do not have any festivities in Krasnodar, and this despite the fact that the quarantine regime has been weakened. Yesterday I talked with a classmate in Crimea, there they are much worse and fined.
          2. boni592807
            boni592807 April 14 2020 20: 57 New
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            Continue - den3080 Today, 17:02, in your words. hi
            "... yes, you are probably right. I note that now everyone is still living by inertia ... "
            Probably, someone from a state of mind, someone out of unwillingness to realize (under severe stress) the present and probable prospects.
            In addition to the virus, its consequences in the economy and, consequently, in geopolitics, if you remove the noise and layers, you can see the plans, the prospects for possible US actions. Immodest privatization on the fact of the MOON, I recall the US strategy for 2012 on global superiority and its development (adjustment) to a promising (predicted) global bummer. When a green absolutely "priceless" piece of paper becomes NOTHING, but military POWER will allow (according to THEIR plans) to make the reboot they need ..
            The political heavyweight is the mouthpiece of the Kissinger Testament Sons on April 03.04.20, 19 in the American business newspaper The Wall Street Journal (WSJ) stated bluntly: “When the Covid-XNUMX pandemic is over, institutions in many countries will be perceived as failed. Whether this judgment is objectively fair does not matter. The reality is that the world will never be the same after the coronavirus. To argue now about the past only makes it difficult what needs to be done. ” Someone still need to REPEAT, or is everything clear ???
            But, it is important to see the whole spectrum of problems, one of them is already trying to LIFT and the deputies ("Fair Russia", "Yabloko", etc.) in different ways, but to LIFT. With us, to say VERY modestly, huge army(this wording is key) guests (someone already with citizenship). According to official figures, this is up to 12 ml. people in the black zone (illegal immigrants) not officially up to 35 ml. This is with a seemingly 12 ml. OUR unemployed. Many guests are left without work, without funds. The media predict the growth of their crime, and the periodic cells opened by the FSB ISIS? If they are (unemployed, organized, having their own Pts. Big. MONEY - business from the market to drugs). Those whom their countries do not want to take away, but they offer Russia to CONTAIN THEM while the coronovirus. Russia is modestly silent, despite the harsh reaction on a similar issue, for example, Saudi Arabia and China. Example: https://haqqin.az/news/175142, After the coronavirus, all foreigners are expelled from China, Sheng Siyu, specially haqqin.az April 13, 2020, 19:01.
            "... Do not consider it unbelievable - but this is really so, there are also enough illegal migrants in China, despite the seemingly completely draconian measures of the migration and border service of the PRC. By the way, another confirmation that the rumors about the" all-seeing eye " and “big brother in China” are greatly exaggerated - Africans find loopholes even here.And on April 4, something out of the ordinary happened - an African American who was diagnosed with a coronavirus hit and then bit a hospital employee in Guangzhou, after which he tried to escape.
            The case itself caused a maximum of indignation in society, and the reaction of the authorities was quite harsh and extremely operational. Already on April XNUMX, a conference was held in the city on the prevention and control of the epidemic, which was attended by representatives of the police and the city health committee, as well as local authorities ... bustling with such a public reaction and harsh measures by the authorities, African Americans and people from the Black Continent tried to go along the beaten path - start talking about "racism". But China is not that hi a place where such lamentations can be successful, here appeals for tolerance as a mitigating circumstance for breaking the law go wrong - the law is the same for everyone. Therefore, the current situation is unlikely to receive any serious development and affect the Sino-African relations. As an element of a psychological war against China and whipping up sinophobia - yes, it will be circulating in the mass media for some time ... "
            If you do NOT get to be wise i.e. DO NOT GET IN THE PROBLEM, then, at least it is Necessary to be smart - DON'T GIVE ANYTHING TO THIS PROBLEM. In Shtatovskiy demand funds from the diasporas and THEIR states, and at home. Leaving, if it is NECESSARY, at least, but so that the US would not have unemployed AT ALL!
            Employ your own people and remember that robotics has been in the USSR since the 70s.
            About the 3rd way (before) - when it is neither wise nor smart, it’s scary to think like that, around HOUSE (Russia) wherever you look, there are “military pleasures”, inside the 5,6 columns, a “developing” economy, coronavirus and unemployment increase.
            And then again: "... the passion of the face, we were told - HELLO, ... !!!" And min. 12 ml. "brothers" from the CIS.
            In childhood I wanted to understand everything, the truth is that SOMEONE is NOT afraid of anything. How many "heroes" there were who declared THIS. Then the historical classics and the words of those who fought from the Second World War, AFG, Chech. formed into a clear thought.
            "If someone tells you that you are not afraid of ANYTHING, then this is a PATHOLOGICAL case.
            Option 1 - pathological lies. 2-pathological criticism (just for medicine -). EVERYTHING IS SIMPLY - some overcome fear and resolve the issue, others follow his lead.
            All of us health, responsibility, wisdom or intelligence, all of us, and overcome the come ATTACK together with the coronovirus. hi
            1. boni592807
              boni592807 April 16 2020 16: 00 New
              0
              Hostel found with XNUMX infected migrants  repeat
              Veronika Polynina
              https://news.rambler.ru/community/44015359-nayden-hostel-s-sotney-zarazhennyh-migrantov/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
              14.46, 16.04.2020 -18 hours ago
              In the Vsevolzhsky district of the Leningrad region 123 people infected with coronavirus in a hostel for migrants. The head of the regional health committee Sergey Vylegzhanin told about this in Telegram.
              According to the administration of the Leningrad region, over the past day, the number of infected people in the hostel has increased by 88 people.
              Vylegzhanin noted that the majority of those infected are asymptomatic, with only 15 having “minor symptoms”.
              ... Over the past day in the Leningrad Region, the coronavirus was confirmed in 108 people, 88 of them are hostel guests in Novosergievka. The total number of infected in the Leningrad region reached 298 people. Those. if you use arithmetic (out of 298 in the Leningrad region to 88 in the migration hostel), then THEY - from the hostel - give 1/3 of all cases in the Leningrad region. Reminds me of something, when there were only 45 cases in Russia, of which 41 were veils - travelers, the rest of the "guests" were foreigners. what
              As Rambler reported, by April 15, Russia recorded 24 cases of coronavirus in 490 regions. During the day, the number of cases increased by 84 people. For the entire period, 3388 deaths were recorded.
              Тand the information was on channel 5 (St. Petersburg), the Izvestia program, approximately 17.35, video report. wassat
              This is just one small case, and in other mass media the hostel is illegal (its NET).
              I am glad that in this case: "...Due to the situation in the hostel, the regional Investigative Committee opened a criminal case on violation of sanitary and epidemiological rules (part 1 of article 236 of the Criminal Code). Suspects in this case have not yet been reported. Previously, criminal cases under this article were brought against Russians who violated the regime of self-isolation. The authorities of the Leningrad region good Already stated that they will check all the hostels and hostels of the region.(In an illegal hostel near St. Petersburg, more than 100 people were infected with the coronavirus. They were building for IKEA. 13:39, April 16, 2020 Source: Meduza.https: //meduza.io/feature/2020/04/16/v-nelegalnom-hostele- pod-peterburgom-koronavirusom-zarazilis-bolshe-100-chelovek-oni-zanimalis-stroitelstvom-dlya-ikea
              There is, see the media and on the growth of crime. But, this is what Alas is expected in a similar period. But, as you, This:
              Head of the Committee on Interethnic Relations Oleg Kapitanov: all migrants are under control. Nikodim Kazakov, April 14, 2020
              https://yandex.ru/turbo/s/moika78.ru/news/2020-04-14/399046-glava-komiteta-po-mezhnatsionalnym-otnosheniyam-oleg-kapitanov-pod-kontrolem-derzhatsya-vse-migranty/?promo=navbar&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
              Against the backdrop of the spread of coronavirus and the possible suspension of the construction of labor migrants in St. Petersburg, they are being monitored, said Oleg Kapitanov, chairman of the committee on interethnic relations and the implementation of migration policy, at Moika78.
              Recall that in Moscow, by a government decision, construction of housing and other facilities was suspended for at least a week due to the spread of the coronavirus. At the same time, the question arose of what to do with the many labor migrants left without work. There is no information that construction projects will freeze in St. Petersburg, but measures are already being prepared for this case.
              “Firstly, the Committee on Labor and Employment deals with the issues of stopping construction projects, and all labor migrants are under control. Including measures are being prepared on how to provide this or that support to migrants so that it doesn’t turn out that they will take to the streets and, God forbid, the situation does not turn out uncontrollable, ”Captains told Moika78.
              What kind of measures are being worked out, the head of the committee did not specify. belay Moika78 sent a request to the Committee on Labor and Employment, as well as to the Committee on Construction .... "
              All of us health, responsibility, wisdom or intelligence, all of us, and overcome the come ATTACK together with the coronovirus.
              It would be good if, before the elections, it launched a permanent page for the coronovirus period with the ability to summarize information at least on a primitive-digital assessment level on the Fedokrugs, subjects, municipalities formations.
              For example: Sections:.
              1 Honey Providing
              masks and disinfectants - population, doctors,
              condition and provision of hospitals and their availability,
              accessibility (opportunity to contact) with a health facility for health status, not only for the virus
              2. Accessibility to the population of food, hygiene, communications
              senior citizens, other population groups, shops, prices, etc.
              3. Assessment of population groups in% to their financial capabilities in% in dynamics, availability of receiving their funds incl. in the SB. Let me explain that some of the retirees receive their pensions in a savings account. At the beginning of self-isolation, the Security Council "went" into self-isolation, ie. get it at an ATM or look for YOURSELF where it works. Their sound assistant from the central site of the Security Council, answered the question about receiving their pensions - cash: "... The question, DO NOT UNDERSTAND, repeat ..." One more hello from digitalization ...
              4. The ability to be at home calmly
              those. THERE IS "help" neighbors who found themselves at home and engaged in repairs, watching TV at night with indifference to the rest.
              how these issues are solved by subjects, municipalities
              -the level of "maturation" of those who participated in the Repair and night TV (0 - normal, 100 - right now, like a bang)
              5. Addressing issues with migrants.
              -fired, go in packs (0-100),
              -your local, indigenous people are provided with work or everything to "help" the guests, as before,
              - sent home, at the expense of the Russian Federation (our account).
              - THEIR diasporas are helping them, probably, there are few who doubt that the owners of the markets, stalls, shawarma and NOT only have their own big money
              - the level of morbidity among guests who control THEM and their self-isolation.
              This will be useful to users of this resource and VO in order to get both estimated (comments), digital (graphs) and overall dynamics with overlay on the map of the Russian Federation. received insider estimated information of a certain range of citizens of the Russian Federation on the situation. How to handle this ...? VO, it seems that support is needed, and here it is NONADO to ask !!! We are waiting for the reaction, including IN,
              1. boni592807
                boni592807 April 18 2020 20: 56 New
                0
                I read it, it seems that the article is correctly written about the "anti-crisis plan" in my opinion. Lots of common words what , worries about "business", Reshetnikov (Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation) even took care of the difficulties of banks. Yesterday I was in the store, a lot has risen in price (there is buckwheat and for 49 rubles, but not kg, but 800 grams) and 56 potatoes, at a discount laughing 49 (it was allegedly 59), "deshovaya" for 19 rubles. traveled as guests. I had to "well, very good, but" for 49 rubles. take In general, I did not deny myself anything for 500 rubles. Nearby, the grandmother with a wand twirled at the valuables and looked. After I saw her leaving the store, also with a stick, and the small backpack behind her back, was also not burdened with contents.
                Anti-crisis measures, Apr 17, 19:28 18 396 Ddeputies asked the authorities to start paying benefits to all Russians
                Подробнее на РБК:https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5e99cab79a794709ae27e788?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
                Deputies of the Moscow City Duma, municipal districts of the capital and some representatives of regional parliaments appealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin with a request to start paying benefits to all citizens of the country, told Moscow City Duma deputy Yevgeny Stupin.
                According to him, they believe that adult citizens need to pay 25 thousand rubles. In addition, deputies asked to develop an anti-crisis plan, since they believe that it is not in Russia, noted stupin.
                «For a month now we have been in a state of crisis for sure, but we don’t understand what measures are being taken, in which direction we are moving. Some kind of chaotic measures, new ones are not connected with the previous ones, even if you look at the president’s appeals ”, - he said..."
                There is also a "good Innovation" (very timely) -
                April 15, 2020 23:43 / Economics
                "Thank you for warning": Kudrin suggested taking deposits from the population. People went to banks https://tsargrad.tv/news/spasibo-chto-predupredili-kudrin-predlozhil-zabrat-vklady-u-naselenija-ljudi-poshli-v-banki_248398
                The head of the Accounts Chamber Alexei Kudrin told how banks could use deposits of individuals. According to him, investing deposits of individuals in government bonds is a "common practice" of world banks. In response to his explanation on Twitter, users thanked Kudrin for the hint, saying that they intend to go to the bank immediately. "Thank you, Alexey Leonidovich, for warning!" - said one of the commentators.
                The head of the Accounts Chamber, Alexei Kudrin, said that about 30 trillion rubles are in the deposits of individuals in Russia. According to him, during the crisis, part of these funds can be raised by the state as part of borrowing on the domestic market.. belay .. "
                Sberbank (Gref), the "excellent student" of digitalization, pleased again:
                Sberbank has a massive failure. Foreign numbers tied to the accounts of Russianshttps://ura.news/news/1052427971?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
                Ksenia Nigamaeva. April 17, 2020 at 18:28
                Other people's numbers were tied to the accounts of Russians in the Sberbank Online mobile application. According to a source in the bank, this happened due to the unsuccessful launch of a new update for the application.
                “The employees of the IT department launched a new update for the Sberbank Online service, but failed, so there was such a failure,” Ridusa insider explained. fool Saved by a savings account, while at the beginning of self-isolation, at first Sberbank "forgot" about them, but then he remembered, but in the central offices, they say afterwards others also "left"
                Finally, the "MIRACLE" of the period of self-isolation:
                A man went into his apartment and mysteriously disappeared in the suburbs
                • https://ren.tv/news/v-rossii/687851-muzhchina-zashel-v-svoiu-kvartiru-i-zagadochno-ischez-v-podmoskove?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews. 18 апреля 2020, 13:38
                In the Moscow region, they are looking for the 68-year-old resident of Kashira, Sergei Ponkratov, who went into his own apartment and disappeared without a trace ... Judging by the recordings from the surveillance cameras, the man left the house at night and returned at about 4 in the morning. He entered the apartment, closed the door and did not go out anymore. Things in which the pensioner was dressed at night were not in the apartment.
                In the circumstances of the mysterious disappearance of a man, law enforcement officers understand ...
                All of us health, responsibility, wisdom or wisdom, all of us, and overcome the ATTACK that came with the coronovirus. together and somewhere fun self-insulate ...
        3. hrych
          hrych April 14 2020 17: 04 New
          -19
          Quote: Dead Day
          By the fall, I think it will not be very good (said as softly as possible)

          Wanga rang out wassat To begin with, the Russian Federation is a self-sufficient country, in mineral raw materials, primarily in energy resources, self-sufficient in food and generally self-sufficient in industrial production, primarily in defense. About consumer goods, we don’t indulge Chinese, no one needs it in dashing years. Here are the Chinese why the scenes are massive and shoot, defeating the virus wassat The party said the virus was defeated, then defeated wassat No power in the world is self-sufficient. The EU, the US and Japan with Korea, that is, the golden billion are not self-sufficient in minerals and energy. The PRC is not self-sufficient in either raw materials or grub. And the RF type grunts? So the Russian Federation sanctions practiced wassat And this tact was the economic war between Russia and the Golden Billion. Did not notice? wassat Rejoice, thanks to the current Regime.
          1. DEDPIHTO
            DEDPIHTO April 14 2020 17: 17 New
            25
            Quote: hrych
            And this tact was the economic war between Russia and the Golden Billion. Did not notice? wassat Rejoice, thanks to the current Regime.
            Fuck .. the grunt drew. laughing Well schA trample HPP gold stability. wassat
            1. hrych
              hrych April 14 2020 17: 36 New
              -16
              Quote: DEPHIHTO
              Well schA trample the HPP gold stability

              Well then tell me how bad everything is, how the Russian State will die again, how the Bulava does not fly, how the crocodile is not caught and the coconut does not grow wassat
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir April 14 2020 18: 24 New
                16
                like a mace does not fly, like a crocodile is not caught and coconut does not grow
                You are welcome. Everyone knows about the shortage of masks and gloves. Syringes are also in short supply. Food delivery is possible within two to three days. Drug delivery is almost impossible .. shortage of health workers.
                1. mark2
                  mark2 April 14 2020 19: 58 New
                  +1
                  There are not enough masks.
                  And why should they be enough when the capacities are designed for the conditions of, so to speak, "peacetime"? They were enough to the crown, because they were not needed by anyone. And now they were sharply required by everyone. It's good that there are enough of them for those who treat the sick, citizens can themselves collect the simplest from gauze. Don't have a mask? Well, it means that you didn't need it that way.
                  Now about the gloves. Do you need specific ones? Medical? if so afraid, wear household or polyethylene disposable. these are. at worst, rubberized construction will go.
                  delivery of products to where? to your house? and go too lazy? Oh yes. you don’t have a mask or gloves. and he is waiting for the virus beyond the threshold!
                  All countries participating in the plague-crown have a shortage of medical workers. And you yourself understand there is nowhere to take them. and reproaching the government now is incorrect. It was necessary to put up. and of course raise these questions after. We, up to the present, do not know which system of saving the population China went for. maybe on the principle of military medicine. saved those whom it is guaranteed to save, the rest simply eased the suffering to its logical end.
                  I think as a result of the pandemic, a lot of questions will arise for our Government. and this is another chance for the population to be interested not in how the President’s dog is doing, but why the country does not have a clearly working epidemiological service and much more.
                  1. Gardamir
                    Gardamir April 14 2020 20: 11 New
                    +8
                    and go too lazy?
                    Go to the stump! Are you a Kremlin health fighter?
                    I described my situation. I can’t get out because I gave a subscription. relatives brought something. Those who do not have relatives, and even more so you will not envy money.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych April 14 2020 21: 08 New
                      -6
                      Quote: Gardamir
                      Go to the stump! Are you a Kremlin health fighter?

                      Themselves to go wassat The main thing is that there should be enough masks and syringes for doctors, and the rest to sit at home and not to squander wassat
                      Quote: Gardamir
                      I can not get out

                      And rightly, there’s nothing to stir up the air
                      Quote: Gardamir
                      gave a subscription

                      In the APU? wassat Two weeks of quarantine have not yet passed, and already the money is over and relatives wassat
                  2. DymOk_v_dYmke
                    DymOk_v_dYmke April 14 2020 22: 22 New
                    +3
                    Quote: mark2
                    There are not enough masks.
                    And why should they be enough when the capacities are designed for the conditions of, so to speak, "peacetime"? They were enough to the crown, because they were not needed by anyone. And now they were sharply required by everyone. It's good that there are enough of them for those who treat the sick, citizens can themselves collect the simplest from gauze.

                    Sorry, but why ... in the country the structure of the Ministry of Emergencies?
                    Why is there even no modest mention of it?
                    Did you know that basement shelters in large cities have long been privatized by "successful privatizers", and air filters and water supply systems (with a manual drive) of these shelters have long been handed over for scrap?
                    Further, there is no desire to continue.
                    If for several people there are shelters in Altai, then this is for the people ... one place.
                    1. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 April 15 2020 10: 39 New
                      0
                      But why the hell do you need basement shelters? Someone bombers us or shells at all emergencies, including meteorites that are exotic in the form of meteorites, you do not really need a simple basement room for these shelters.
                2. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny April 14 2020 22: 00 New
                  +1
                  So, a la new communists, well, explain the following - the disintegration of the Republic of Ingushetia - from 1905 to 1916, for eleven years the empire disintegrated, there were both external and internal reasons. After this, the Civil War, in which hundreds of thousands (minimum) tried to return the old.
                  The USSR - you and your lizards insist that the USSR fell apart because of a handful of traitors. Maybe. Then my question is - what kind of country is it that has collapsed in 6 years (from 85 to 91)? And fell apart because of a bunch of traitors? A country with a population of more than 200 million collapsed due to a handful of traitors? And where are the hundreds of thousands (minimum) bayonets that would protect her? That is, the society absolutely scored on your communist leaders and calmly let the country fall apart in 6 years, no one even fought for it. That is, Gardamir shut up his accomplices, be silent and do not cry.
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny April 15 2020 06: 51 New
                    +3
                    Purely communist - there is nothing to argue and quietly minus))) Once again the same question - how a country with "people's power" fell apart in 6 years due to a handful of traitors? A country with hundreds of millions of inhabitants? And not a single shot was fired in her defense (of the authorities)? Maybe the power was not popular?
                    1. atalef
                      atalef April 15 2020 11: 04 New
                      -2
                      Quote: Okolotochny
                      Once again, the same question - how did a country with "people's power" fall apart in 6 years due to a handful of traitors? A country with hundreds of millions of inhabitants? And not a single shot was fired in her defense (of the authorities)? Maybe the power was not popular?

                      it is useless to ask.
                      They won’t answer.
          2. primaala
            primaala April 14 2020 17: 23 New
            -23
            Quote: hrych
            Quote: Dead Day
            By the fall, I think it will not be very good (said as softly as possible)

            Wanga rang out wassat To begin with, the Russian Federation is a self-sufficient country, in mineral raw materials, primarily in energy resources, self-sufficient in food and generally self-sufficient in industrial production, primarily in defense. About consumer goods, we don’t indulge Chinese, no one needs it in dashing years. Here are the Chinese why the scenes are massive and shoot, defeating the virus wassat The party said the virus was defeated, then defeated wassat No power in the world is self-sufficient. The EU, the US and Japan with Korea, that is, the golden billion are not self-sufficient in minerals and energy. The PRC is not self-sufficient in either raw materials or grub. And the RF type grunts? So the Russian Federation sanctions practiced wassat And this tact was the economic war between Russia and the Golden Billion. Did not notice? wassat Rejoice, thanks to the current Regime.

            This is ours !!! +++
            1. 4ekist
              4ekist April 14 2020 18: 07 New
              +7
              What is yours?
              1. primaala
                primaala April 14 2020 20: 14 New
                -3
                Quote: 4ekist
                What is yours?

                In our opinion - who has the brains in place.
                1. 4ekist
                  4ekist April 14 2020 21: 42 New
                  -1
                  Not modest at all. We have already experienced some too "smart" ones.
          3. SSR
            SSR April 14 2020 20: 18 New
            11
            Quote: hrych
            This is how the Russian Federation practiced sanctions. And this was a tact-economic war between Russia and the Golden Billion. Did not notice? Rejoice, thanks to the current Regime.

            I read the comments and am surprised how many of those who recently bravorously visited the slogans about diapers and tear all with the advent of trouble became slogans of prosralopolymers.
            From my personal observations and what seems to me leadership errors.
            1. Declared self-isolation for one week. What the residents of Moscow and the Moscow Region did, went for a week to give their apartments, the virus may not show signs for two weeks, and their non-efficient movement only complicated the situation (I will explain that in Moscow and the region there are enterprises with thousands of people who work for production and for self-isolation the former one week, but construction and state defense orders do not fall under self-isolation) hundreds of people are transported by corporate transport, but they do not go to OZK there.
            2. Introduced self-isolation and fines, but can’t see the support system for people?
            I found a tax debt from a friend of mine (I probably didn’t pay the pantry tax in the basement) and blocked two credit accounts and a debit, but the banks didn’t give holidays and didn’t exempt anyone from payments!)))
            It’s just that there are a lot of such episodes, a mother with many children sitting in an apartment with three small ones, they scream, run, require energy, and the mother tries to work, online conferences, meetings, the senior has online lessons and the first-grader sits and cries listening to the teacher’s speech on vatsup and tries to understand what is needed to do! He is a first grader!
            And the teacher is well done, asks according to the plan of the assignment, but few people think, and who can do this?
            The father comes home from work, the children are in tears, the wife of the fury .... Well, it’s just a solid positive and we must remember about the virus.
          4. Paul zewike
            Paul zewike April 14 2020 21: 07 New
            +3
            Fiercely plus!
          5. atalef
            atalef April 15 2020 11: 02 New
            -1
            Quote: hrych
            To begin with, the Russian Federation is a self-sufficient country

            Quote: hrych
            No power in the world is self-sufficient

            recourse
            Quote: hrych
            EU, US and Japan with Korea that there is a golden billion non-self-sufficient in minerals and energy

            belay
            Quote: hrych
            And this tact was the economic war between Russia and the Golden Billion. Did not notice?

            Well, and who whom?
        4. kjhg
          kjhg April 14 2020 17: 11 New
          29
          Quote: Dead Day
          by the fall, I think it will be very not good

          Business Ombudsman Boris Titov does not rule out that Russia's GDP will fall by at least 10%

          Low tide shows who was swimming naked. The annual "growth" of the Russian economy in recent years in the region of about 1%, with an average oil price of $ 60, clearly showed that Putin and his sidekick were not involved in the economy at all. They sat stupidly on the pipe and hoped to continue sitting. But the northern fur-bearing animal decided that it was enough and decided to show itself to Russia in all its glory.
          1. 72jora72
            72jora72 April 15 2020 06: 26 New
            +1
            But the northern furry animal decided that it was enough for him, and decided to show himself to Russia in all its glory.
            You are mistaken, this hour the "animal" only stuck its muzzle out of the mink ...........
        5. vorobey
          vorobey April 14 2020 18: 25 New
          +5
          Quote: Dead Day
          By the fall, I think it will not be very good (said as softly as possible)


          that's when the comments on the VO will be paid; then then alescaput will come laughing laughing
      2. Professor
        Professor April 14 2020 17: 23 New
        29
        Quote: Teberii
        Everything now depends on the time how much length isolation, the longer the worse. It concerns not only us but the whole world.

        Length? Really? fool

        It all depends not on the extent of isolation, but on the professionalism of governments. Where professionals rule, the situation will quickly resolve itself, and where there are dumbasses, they will look for external enemies that impede economic recovery.
        1. user1212
          user1212 April 14 2020 17: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          and where there are dumbasses - they will look for external enemies hindering the restoration of the economy.

          In vain you are so about Trump, your ally all the same laughing
          1. Professor
            Professor April 14 2020 20: 35 New
            +7
            Quote: user1212
            Quote: Professor
            and where there are dumbasses - they will look for external enemies hindering the restoration of the economy.

            In vain you are so about Trump, your ally all the same laughing

            "Dumbass" Trump himself has made billions, and now allocates 20% of GDP to support his people. Notice, not 20% of RF GDP, but 20% of US GDP. Well stupid ... fool They could send on vacation at their own expense and not open the egg! wink For the American economy, I am calm. These in any case will come out profitably.

            Quote: Paranoid50
            Quote: Professor
            will look for external enemies hindering economic recovery.

            Yes, and Hamas will cease to be plush. yes But, apparently, they have now "self-insulated," and the cylinders are temporarily unable to fly. request

            No no. This is not about small Hamas and Hezbalons, this is "about the expansion of Nata, about the dastardly collapse of oil prices and sanctions whose purpose is to put us on your knees. "
            Well, you know. "Hostile whirlwinds blow over us, Dark forces oppress us viciously."

            Let's look at the effectiveness of the governments of New Zealand, Austria and Denmark. Although how can you know about this? You will not be told this on Channel One. About how Germany supports the Germans told? About how she takes seriously ill from Italy and France since her medicine wasn’t told at full load?

            Ilya Polonsky does not want to write an article how do different governments struggle differently with a common enemy?
            1. DymOk_v_dYmke
              DymOk_v_dYmke April 14 2020 22: 44 New
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              "Dumbass" Trump has made billions of his own, and now allocates 20% of GDP to support his people. Notice, not 20% of RF GDP, but 20% of US GDP. Well, stupid ... Could send on vacation at their own expense and not open the egg-box! I am calm for the American economy. In any case, these will come out with a profit.

              It is amazing how big the world is and how narrow the view of it is from some corners of it.
              Yes, today, until the printing press has rusted, these will turn out, come out with a profit, and also share a little profit with those who are on time and where they need to lick.
              A couple of questions: how do lickers have confidence that this will last forever?
              Or they don’t care whom to lick and they are sure that they will always find a new one?
        2. hrych
          hrych April 14 2020 17: 30 New
          -14
          Quote: Professor
          and where there are dumbasses - they will look for external enemies hindering the restoration of the economy.

          About Netanyah and the Israelites apparently wassat
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar April 14 2020 21: 12 New
            +2
            Quote: hrych
            Quote: Professor
            and where there are dumbasses - they will look for external enemies hindering the restoration of the economy.

            About Netanyah and the Israelites apparently wassat

            Everything is ok there. The state, and not the founder of the employer, pays the unemployed

            Quote: Paranoid50

            Yes, and Hamas will cease to be plush. yes But, apparently, they have now "self-insulated," and the cylinders are temporarily unable to fly. request

            They are afraid to use Iranian fagers and Chinese cities for all obvious reasons - the coronavirus is crying
        3. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 April 14 2020 19: 54 New
          -2
          Quote: Professor
          will look for external enemies hindering economic recovery.

          Yes, and Hamas will cease to be plush. yes But, apparently, they have now "self-insulated," and the cylinders are temporarily unable to fly. request
        4. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova April 15 2020 07: 53 New
          0
          most likely until June 1
      3. Prjanik
        Prjanik April 14 2020 17: 48 New
        +2
        Everything now depends on the time how long the isolation is, the longer the worse. It concerns not only us but the whole world.
        Depends on the epidemiological situation in each particular region. In many enterprises operating yesterday, Moscow and the region will not be affected soon.
        1. Mikhail m
          Mikhail m April 14 2020 19: 34 New
          +5
          Quote: Prjanik
          In many, enterprises have been operating since yesterday,

          So they are still ahead. A pandemic has its own laws. And it is necessary to stop the enterprises, but a little later. Not professionals, but politicians, are fighting the epidemic, this is the root of future troubles.
          1. Prjanik
            Prjanik April 14 2020 21: 38 New
            +2
            So they are still ahead.
            Let's see, they will be guided by the situation. If there are isolated cases of infection in the region, why should everyone sit home without work and stop the economy. Start up enterprises gradually, mainly state.
            It’s not professionals who fight the epidemic, but politicians
            Not so simple. Epidemiologists do their job, fight the spread of infection, predict and share their professional opinions, and politicians take into account their opinions, economists, industrialists, etc. And they are already making some decisions.
      4. Overlock
        Overlock April 14 2020 19: 51 New
        +8
        Quote: Teberii
        Everything now depends on the time how long the isolation is, the longer the worse.

        if you take China as a sample, 3-4 months. We have the beginning of March, April is the height. It can be assumed that until July (under a favorable set of circumstances) one can wait for a lull. The economic effect will manifest itself by the fall
    2. Alexey Sommer
      Alexey Sommer April 14 2020 16: 40 New
      24
      Quote: Kronos
      All so case article

      I absolutely disagree.
      Article manipulation from the first to the last word.
      The crisis is caused not by the so-called pandemic, but by structural problems in the economy, primarily the world. And we, as its raw materials appendage, will enjoy the fruits of this crisis to the full.
      A pandemic is a pumpdown for children to avoid responsibility for the illiterate management of the country's economy.
      Our "victory" in the oil war over Saudi Arabia is the clearest manifestation of the level of competence of effective managers ruling Russia.
      1. Kronos
        Kronos April 14 2020 16: 49 New
        +5
        And this is also true.
      2. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky April 14 2020 16: 59 New
        12
        I wanted to object to you.
        Then he changed his mind.
        Then he changed his mind again. I object.
        The crisis is caused precisely by the pandemic. Without her, this tramp could have lasted a very long time.
        And about the level of our leadership, I completely agree.
        1. Alexey Sommer
          Alexey Sommer April 14 2020 17: 02 New
          14
          Quote: Beringovsky
          The crisis is caused precisely by the pandemic.

          I think I understand you.
          The only amendment, the pandemic, is an artificial catalyst. She is needed to write everything off on her.
          As they say: "To whom is war, and to whom is a mother."
          1. Beringovsky
            Beringovsky April 14 2020 17: 52 New
            +1
            The only amendment, the pandemic, is an artificial catalyst. She is needed to write everything off on her.

            Who are these they need?
            Well, if so, then they already have a vaccine for the disease. For you have to be a complete idiot to get involved in such an adventure without insurance.
            1. Alexey Sommer
              Alexey Sommer April 14 2020 17: 57 New
              -1
              Quote: Beringovsky
              Who are these they need?

              I don’t think that you are not as smart as you want to show.
              Stop the comedy Vasya.
              1. Beringovsky
                Beringovsky April 14 2020 18: 32 New
                +1
                Well, what a comedy, the right word!
                I just don’t know who exactly you are blaming, therefore I can’t say anything. What kind of world elite is this?
                Is the English Queen conspiring with the CCP and Hasidim?
                We will not touch reptiloids yet wassat
                1. Alexey Sommer
                  Alexey Sommer April 14 2020 18: 51 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Beringovsky
                  I just don’t know who exactly you are blaming, therefore I can’t say anything.

                  Specifically accused in court.
                  Here is the forum. I express my opinion.
                2. Alexey Sommer
                  Alexey Sommer April 14 2020 19: 05 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Beringovsky
                  What kind of world elite is this?

                  I already told you everything above.
                  Once again, please do not play the fool)
              2. atalef
                atalef April 15 2020 11: 16 New
                -1
                Quote: Alexey Sommer
                I don’t think that you are not as smart as you want to show.
                Stop the comedy Vasya.

                in vain you have left such an urgent issue.
                So who benefits from this 7 and why are all countries so led to this scam?
                Your opinion sir?
            2. Alexey Sommer
              Alexey Sommer April 14 2020 18: 09 New
              +1
              Quote: Beringovsky
              Well, if so, then they already have a vaccine for the disease.

              This disease is no worse than the flu. Panic, this is a media cheat, by order.
              This must be understood.
              And what happens is a vivid example when "a medicine is worse than a disease."
              How do you not understand this?
              Those who introduced self-isolation because of this showed at least criminal incompetence, as a maximum in conspiracy with the world elite, which needs to be attributed to a pandemic.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar April 14 2020 21: 17 New
                +1
                Which is no worse than flu? )))
                With a stream of patients, severe cases will take all resuscitation:
                means all emergency operations, including neurosurgery and traumatic due to injury fly nafig. Roughly - the collapse of any health care system. Therefore, everyone began to buy and stamp ventilators.
                1. Roman123567
                  Roman123567 April 14 2020 21: 55 New
                  -1
                  Sommer wrote the whole thing .. scare the usual kind of flu ..
                  And at the expense of "streams of patients" and "overcrowded morgues" .. against the background of other diseases and mortality - this is laughter, and that's all ..
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar April 14 2020 22: 24 New
                    +2
                    Once again - imagine that resuscitation is filled with severe patients Covid-19. This means that you cannot treat many of the consequences of an accident - how many corpses? Further - what kind of CABGs should a stent be clogged, for example, too - how many corpses? Surgery to remove, for example, giant tumors that close the intestines - also do not. Add to the treasury of the dead. Can be scored on severe patients with coronavirus - how many 200s? And if you do not limit the pandemic?
                    1. Roman123567
                      Roman123567 April 14 2020 22: 45 New
                      -2
                      With a fig whether they will be filled with patients from KV ??
                      You mislead yourself and others in advance ..
                      From influenza, mortality is more .. it means there are more patients from influenza in hospitals ..
                      And there is also a bunch of any sores .. and there are dozens of them only those with higher statistics than HF ..
                      There was a good picture with numbers .. it’s even clear to the tree that mortality from HF is a drop in the sea against the rest ..
                      And on the bill to limit .. do not tell .. Or what is happening now - can be considered a limitation ?? Well, you wouldn’t get infected from me, you’re from another .. who cares .. The distribution paths are all preserved ..
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar April 14 2020 23: 31 New
                        +1
                        The third time - now in great detail. At an advanced stage, the human lungs begin to function very poorly. Rough - the patient breathes very badly. And the situation worsens until death. But it does not matter. What is the problem? The fact that this garbage is contagious. For healthy people it is not a danger - well, he was ill with severe pneumonia and figs with it. And for people with weakened immune systems - cores, cancer patients (leading groups of mortality from diseases), people who have undergone an organ transplant for the last six months and others who are taking immunosuppressive drugs, as well as old people with a bunch of age-related diseases - Khan. If you do not stop the spread, mortality from Influenza, cancer, cardiovascular diseases, injuries in road accidents and production will seem like baby talk to us. In addition - the disease due to its course at a late stage requires connection to mechanical ventilation - because the patient is NOT ABLE to breathe on his own. There are three ways out:
                        a) In case of infection, hammer all the clinics with such patients, scoring on the remaining patients
                        b) Let such people die - the elderly, cancer patients, cores receiving immunosuppressants
                        c) Limit the spread of the pandemic
                        GRIP-P - most complications from this infection do not require Mechanical Ventilation - this is the whole trouble of the new coronavirus.
                      2. Roman123567
                        Roman123567 April 14 2020 23: 47 New
                        -1
                        For the last time - it’s enough to come up with nonsense, and then on the basis of this write a treatise .. Infectious diseases of the sea ..
                        And this one, as we see, is also not so contagious .. but only for those with weak immunity ..

                        "deaths from influenza, cancer, cardiovascular diseases, injuries in road accidents and production will seem childish to us"
                        This is nothing more than your Wishlist ..
                        Firstly, the mortality rate is small .. secondly, this will not stop and ..
                        When there was one person on the planet - they could not stop ..
                        When he infected ten in an hour, this could still be stopped by immediately putting the entire million-strong city under lock and key ..
                        When there are officially only hundreds of thousands of infected people on the planet .. and even asymptomatic 5 times more .. Who are you going to stop ?? This is not a mammoth .. Get lost already ..

                        "Influenza-P - most of the complications from this infection do not require Artificial Lung Ventilation - this is the whole trouble with the new coronavirus."
                        As they joke now - do you have a friend of a friend whose friend is sick ?? And then my closest is Leshchenko ..
                        Yes, and he says that without any mechanical ventilation there was .. All sorts of Boris Johnson, Prince Charles 72 years old ... who would have to go for a long time .. Everyone is sick happily ..
                        Where are these, at least, dozens of names from our political, starry arena, who died from a terrible monster ?? Yes, all over the world there are not a dozen such names !!

                        I repeat, the numbers are funny .. but the dry statistics for today is just that ..
                        And don't shout about "if we don't stop" ..
                        We will not stop .. and by the end of the year, mortality in the world will be at the level of influenza ..

                        And today you are more likely to be under the wheels of a bus than to die from this horror story ..
                        Even without considering that you already could have been ill for a long time
                      3. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar April 15 2020 00: 38 New
                        +1
                        Yes, for everyone it is contagious - deadly for the groups of citizens I have listed. As for my Wishlist - where did you get it? I’ve got two arbitrage loans, two businesses have fallen, I’ve dreamed all my life, in short .. laughing
                        The Italians will not agree with you, but oh well)).
                      4. Liam
                        Liam April 15 2020 00: 44 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        anyway ))

                        It’s useless. Human psychology is like that until they come across, they don’t understand how serious this is. Doctors scream, professors, virologists, every day they see hundreds of corpses on TV in the richest countries with the most developed medicine, but still continue to refuse to accept reality
                      5. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar April 15 2020 00: 59 New
                        -1
                        Noapte Bune! Just yesterday I was translating an abbreviation of a pandemic essay written by two oncologists from Lombardy. It is written in an emotional Italian manner, smoothed by American Jama Oncology. Horror of course
                      6. Liam
                        Liam April 15 2020 01: 05 New
                        +2
                        Multsumesk!. They don’t want to understand that at least 10% of these numbers of new infected people who read every day, after a week / 10 days will be in the graph of the dead. They deceive themselves with the numbers of the dead for today, they say few of them are not so dangerous. Now they’re dying are those who appeared in the Sick column 2-3 weeks ago when they considered dozens of infected people only. And now the bill is already thousands on a day
                    2. Roman123567
                      Roman123567 April 15 2020 10: 30 New
                      -1
                      "screaming, hundreds of corpses" ..))
                      Do you even understand how many corpses there are in the world? On the day .. Though in the same USA .. google ..
                      And then you’ll figure out what a hundred corpses in this mass mean ..
                      And why have you never seen millions of corpses before, and now they’re showing you a hundred on TV .. And you’ll understand why they all shout ..))
                  2. Roman123567
                    Roman123567 April 15 2020 10: 28 New
                    -1
                    Italians have a normal mortality rate compared to previous years ..
                  3. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar April 15 2020 10: 30 New
                    -1
                    Liam lives in Italy - email him - he will tell you more about "normal mortality". hi
                  4. Roman123567
                    Roman123567 April 15 2020 10: 47 New
                    -1
                    Yes, a lot of people "tell" me something ..
                    But you can still simply and sometimes even analyze it yourself ..
                  5. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar April 15 2020 11: 04 New
                    -1
                    You can live there - local pensioners before the pandemic massively sat in cafes and traveled around the world - now they are dying like flies from a cove - that's all analytics. And not only they are dying.
                  6. Liam
                    Liam April 15 2020 11: 23 New
                    +3
                    If only old people. In the hospital where my wife works, an anesthesiologist from St. Petersburg works. He is 20 years old and lives in Italy. 55 a guy and a special awesome man. I examined when I was operated on there about 3 years ago. I quinted him periodically). A good man and physically normal without any sores.
                    When it all started, he didn’t take it very seriously, he looked at Russian and post-Soviet statistics at that time and insisted that it was probably a legacy of vaccinations and other theories that were now fashionable in Russia about BCG, etc. In mid-March, he picked up a virus, was at home a couple of weeks. And then A couple of weeks in intensive care at his hospital, and a week ago he went into collapse, his heart began to flutter, then his kidneys refused. lungs, to dust. And still alive only because the physician himself and his colleagues are fighting to the last for him.
                  7. Roman123567
                    Roman123567 April 15 2020 15: 02 New
                    -1
                    They die like flies .. this is with mortality in the world of 70 thousand in 4 months ..
                    Less than flu or traffic accidents or pneumonia ..
                    Normal tantrum ..
    3. atalef
      atalef April 15 2020 11: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Roman123567
      With a fig whether they will be filled with patients from KV ??

      such garbage
    4. Roman123567
      Roman123567 April 15 2020 15: 04 New
      -1
      300-600 thousand in the world are washed from influenza per year ..
      Where were all those cars before ??) Patients for the flu were not treated ???)
      This photo does not cause anything except a smile ..
    5. atalef
      atalef April 15 2020 15: 17 New
      -3
      Quote: Roman123567
      300-600 thousand in the world are washed from influenza per year ..
      Where were all those cars before ??) Patients for the flu were not treated ???)
      This photo does not cause anything except a smile..

      you can smile, you can not smile - but this photo is a fact.
      Where were you with the flu? I don’t know, and what does it matter?
      the fact that hospitals are clogged with coronaviruses is a fact, what is the point of the authorities to invent this?
    6. Roman123567
      Roman123567 April 15 2020 15: 34 New
      -1
      So my numbers are a fact ..
      And this is what matters !!
      For this is the whole answer ..
      And there’s a lot of meanings .. watch the video of Professor Gundarev .. it’s well told there .. And the person is quite authoritative .. unlike me ..))
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke April 14 2020 23: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Which is no worse than flu? )))
    With a stream of patients, severe cases will take all resuscitation:
    means all emergency operations, including neurosurgery and traumatic due to injury fly nafig. Roughly - the collapse of any health care system. Therefore, everyone began to buy and stamp ventilators.

    But do not you think that all this is only a derivative of unprofitable redundancy or
    disadvantageous lack of background financing of medicine by specific states?
    The social system can even be left alone for now.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar April 14 2020 23: 38 New
      -1
      It does not seem. Germany - a brilliant Bismar health system - a whole industry of clinics, pharmaceutical companies, health insurance companies, nurses, carers, medical tourism, equipment, prosthetics - everything is generously funded by the state. Israel is a worse system, medicine is super. Ministers do not give Shaw, Jews give private sponsors. After a state’s refusal to build a special room for the needs of a disabled youth, citizens of the country raised 12 million rubles at the current rate for TWO days. But - neither the Germans, nor the Jews, nor the French, nor the Britons expected that there would be such a need for mechanical ventilation due to a contagious disease. That's the whole song hi
  • atalef
    atalef April 15 2020 11: 18 New
    -2
    Quote: Alexey Sommer
    Panic, this is a media wrap, by order.

    ordering whom?
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  • 16329
    16329 April 14 2020 17: 29 New
    -2
    The crisis is a normal process of updating the world economy, it began in 2008 and continues to this day, in the conditions of a pandemic of unknown origin it naturally escalated, after a while all governments will throw huge amounts of money into the economy through banks and here are the questions:
    Will these measures help real sectors of the economy, or only transnational banks, when the level of purchasing power of the population will be restored and how will this affect the speed of recovery of transport, the tourism industry, the automotive industry
    How quickly will the Chinese economy recover, which is now the basis of world industrial production both as a supplier and as a customer.
    On the other hand, will the US continue the economic confrontation with China and will the pandemic be used to unleash a full-fledged economic war between China and the USA?
    Or it will be prevented by multilateral political agreements
    Will the globalization of the global economy predicted by many occur, etc.
    And I consider the level of modern leadership of Russia in this difficult situation to be quite adequate to the requirements of the time
    1. Alexey Sommer
      Alexey Sommer April 14 2020 18: 17 New
      +6
      Quote: 16329
      And I consider the level of modern leadership of Russia in this difficult situation to be quite adequate to the requirements of the time

      I would agree with you if it were not for the destructive "self-isolation".
      Here they pierced the big one.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 15 2020 10: 54 New
        0
        Well, let’s give up destructive self-isolation - we’ll put a lot of horseradish on a new disease and let everyone out on the streets - only then don’t complain that you or your close friends will begin to suffocate and they will not have enough medical staff or mechanical ventilation to help as all medical institutions will be clogged and tens of millions of people will be sick at home 10% of which will become dead.
    2. Aag
      Aag April 14 2020 19: 39 New
      +3
      Somehow you are completely past: "... the tourism industry, the automotive industry ..."
      Believe me, if the events take the worst turn, the reasons may be different, you don’t remember about it!
  • smart ass
    smart ass April 14 2020 17: 11 New
    -1
    What do you want to say? Is the government to blame?
    1. Alexey Sommer
      Alexey Sommer April 14 2020 17: 15 New
      13
      Quote: Clever man
      What do you want to say? Is the government to blame?

      Basil, I'm sorry if I did not clearly express my thought.
      Yes. The government is to blame as representatives of the ruling class in our country.
      Ida. The ruling class in Russia is not the oligarchs or the capitalists.
      The ruling class in our country is for the most part completely illiterate and irresponsible civil servants.
  • Mastodon
    Mastodon April 14 2020 16: 40 New
    -16
    Quote: Kronos
    All so case article

    Suggest giving up before it's too late?
    1. ancient
      ancient April 14 2020 17: 40 New
      12
      Quote: Mastodon
      Suggest giving up before it's too late?

      And where further then .. "give up", all who could ... all of us .. "bent" ... then puff out cheeks wassat
      1. Mastodon
        Mastodon April 14 2020 18: 07 New
        -10
        Quote: ancient
        Quote: Mastodon
        Suggest giving up before it's too late?

        And where further then .. "give up", all who could ... all of us .. "bent" ... then puff out cheeks wassat

        Well, you may be bent in Moscow, but we are NOT in the Urals!
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 April 14 2020 19: 55 New
        +2
        Quote: ancient
        all of us .. "bent".

        Why did you bend down? request
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty April 14 2020 16: 48 New
    +7
    Well, well! "They count in autumn," said the fox, hitting the chicken coop! As chickens, the population of Russia, and who as a fox, I think, everyone understands. ...
    1. revnagan
      revnagan April 14 2020 17: 37 New
      +4
      "Gypsy on tiptoe followed the chick". Well, my!
  • Valery Valery
    Valery Valery April 14 2020 16: 48 New
    -1
    but the head of the Accounts Chamber, Alexei Kudrin, on the contrary, is predicting Russia's economic recession.

    Yes, you look at all the forecasts of this Kudrin, if they came true - we would have already died eleven thousand times. This accountant is bored with life, so he has fun, including his scarecrows.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 April 14 2020 16: 59 New
      -2
      Quote: Valery Valery
      view all the forecasts of this Kudrin,

      It is what it is. Yes, on this resource such curls every day, even with a dump truck, are the classic "kings of smokers and kitchens." yes
  • Svarog
    Svarog April 14 2020 16: 49 New
    19
    And this is also indicative: 1-2 million rubles may lie in the bank with the most ordinary hard worker, who has been saving them all his life or selling, for example, a hereditary apartment.

    As for the real rich, they both withheld and will withhold their true incomes.

    It is in such dirty tricks that the state manifests its essence .. it’s not even capitalism, but a state policy to take money from the population. Why aren’t their own huge RFP taxed? Why is there no progressive scale, as in the whole capitalist world?
    They themselves are widening the gap between rich and poor .. they cause discontent among the masses with their own hands .. Although in such a difficult period for the country, they could tighten their belts themselves .. But where is it .. And then they will complain about the fifth column, the State Department and others. With their own hands, from their own boundless greed and disregard for the needs of the people, they build a scaffold for themselves ..
    1. DMB 75
      DMB 75 April 14 2020 17: 03 New
      20
      You’ll force them to tighten their belts, how can it be? This is a Chinese billionaire who sends help around the world, we don’t see or hear our words at all. they’ll spend on the rich, nothing will fall into the people .. Read the list of backbone companies to whom the people’s money will go, curious list, I assure you, there is a pod-sola, and the fonbet was excluded only because of the hype ...
      https://www.interfax.ru/sistemoobrazuyuchieorgangizatisii.html
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 15 2020 10: 57 New
        0
        At least 1,4 trillion rubles will be spent on everything about everything.
    2. 16329
      16329 April 14 2020 17: 38 New
      -15
      They just shouted here that the people are impoverished, all tattered and starving, when suddenly on the accounts of a simple hard worker a couple of tens of thousands of euros in rubles
      There are taxes on deposit income in all countries, once again, this is a tax on interest on deposits and is significant for serious financial transactions with the placement of large funds (tens of millions) in short-term deposits
      There are no problems for “hard workers” with small contributions to a couple of million
      1. for
        for April 14 2020 18: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: 16329
        There are no problems for “hard workers” with small contributions to a couple of million

        And where will they cover the loss of their income from? Tell me what not to take from them at all, no to take, but the problem is this money is stolen.
        1. 16329
          16329 April 14 2020 18: 26 New
          +1
          This innovation for large deposits is just for those who are engaged in making profit by placing funds on short-term deposits of individuals
          Including for those who "steal" to track transactions through tax authorities
          Well, to “hard workers” if they are such cunning guys, let them cover their losses by splitting deposits, to his wife there, to his mother-in-law, etc., for 980000 r,
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar April 14 2020 21: 21 New
            -1
            Quote: 16329
            to my wife there, to my mother-in-law, and so on for 980000 r,

            To wife and mother-in-law is to lose everything laughing
            1. 16329
              16329 April 14 2020 23: 20 New
              0
              If you have doubts about your wife and mother-in-law, then this is a topic for another discussion.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar April 14 2020 23: 41 New
                -1
                That's it - that sure laughing They do not steal - they will explain where to spend the money.
      2. Revival
        Revival April 15 2020 03: 30 New
        -1
        "Taxes on deposit income are in all countries."
        Is.
        And in all developed countries there is a progressive taxation scale.
        Why did we forget about her?
      3. 72jora72
        72jora72 April 15 2020 06: 49 New
        0
        They just shouted here that the people are impoverished, all tattered and starving, when suddenly on the accounts of a simple hard worker a couple of tens of thousands of euros in rubles
        Well, I have one and a half "lemon" on my account (I'm trying to save up for an apartment on the "mainland"), in the North since 1980 ...............
  • Sergey S.
    Sergey S. April 14 2020 17: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: Kronos
    All so case article

    .
    That is, everyone understands that a "feast during the plague" is an almost impossible phenomenon.
    But no real information, no meaningful forecasts, no interesting comparisons ...
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke April 14 2020 21: 37 New
    0
    Quote: Kronos
    All so case article

    Nothing business. Empty article.
    No analysis, no recommendations, no references to sensible experience.
    Well, at least the experience of Belarus, where the priority was given to the failure of the economy.
  • Irokez
    Irokez April 14 2020 16: 30 New
    -21
    Damn Che again for a decadent and pro-popular article.
    the head of the Accounts Chamber, Alexei Kudrin, on the contrary, predicts Russia's economic recession

    And this is the most important expert.

    the self-isolation regime has already led to the suspension or complete cessation of the activities of many businesses, especially those engaged in such fields as tourism, hotels and hotels, transportation, catering, trade in non-food products, sports and leisure, repair and decoration works for private owners.

    These areas, by the way, are not manufacturing, but service and helpful and they always and in the first place suffered, suffer and will suffer. Guys are looking for work outside these areas, but the only repair-finishers will always be held in high esteem.

    An increase in the value of the dollar and the euro, combined with logistical problems, will increase the price of imported goods.

    Yes, this is a fact, but it’s also an incentive to begin to replace these goods themselves, just those who will suffer in the field of service and services suffered. Everything is logical, if these people had a desire.

    The decline in income, also against the backdrop of inflation, is followed by a drop in the purchasing power of the population. Demand for goods decreases, which naturally entails a decrease in supply. For example, now analysts have noted a decrease in average spending by Russians by 30%.

    I agree that in times and times of change, people begin to spend only on what they need, and all other not very vital expenses (iPhones, cars, palaces, tours, nails, eyelashes, tattoos, etc.) and are not needed in FIG.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 14 2020 16: 43 New
      13
      Quote: Irokez
      Damn Che again for a decadent and pro-popular article.

      but not ... "Iroquois" can with their "squaw", withdraw from the camp, and wave somewhere in the "prairie" over the "hillock". but the common people have nowhere to go. will taste all the delights that power will thrust under their nose. hao ... I said everything. Not, not everything ... who the fuck "finishers" will need in a crisis? everything froze, there would be enough money for grub. and the desire is something people have, but people don't fucking need anyone. now hao.
      1. Irokez
        Irokez April 14 2020 16: 49 New
        -9
        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: Irokez
        Damn Che again for a decadent and pro-popular article.

        but not ... "Iroquois" can with their "squaw", withdraw from the camp, and wave somewhere in the "prairie" over the "hill". but the common people have nowhere to go. will taste all the delights that power will thrust under their nose. hao ... I said everything.

        Grandfather, you are probably already old if you think so. Over the hill right now is not ice, and there is no possibility, and no desire. We are developing and equipping our land and the leader to help us, but if we re-elect, but so far everything is OK, taking into account the conditions of such global changes. Those who disagree and those who cannot get used to the new realities of life and get used to change leave the camp (as you put it).
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather April 14 2020 17: 05 New
          12
          Quote: Irokez
          Grandfather, you are probably already old if you think so.

          Shyisyat soon ...
          Quote: Irokez
          We develop and equip our land and the leader to help us

          Cho, the lake cooperative?
          Quote: Irokez
          and if we re-elect

          not the current "zero".
          Quote: Irokez
          but for now everything is OK

          exactly .. "yet" ... nothing has started yet! while the "forerunner" ... but alas ... soon it will be bad. everyone.
          1. Irokez
            Irokez April 14 2020 17: 26 New
            -11
            Oh grandfather, the phenomenon of pessimism is very negative.
            But no one said that the road to the stars would be without thorns, ravines and potholes. You are too critical, old age is not a joy, I understand. You hold on there, remember the USSR, although you console yourself with this.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets April 14 2020 18: 17 New
              +6
              Quote: Irokez
              Oh grandfather, the phenomenon of pessimism is very negative.
              But no one said that the road to the stars would be without thorns, ravines and potholes. You are too critical, old age is not a joy, I understand. You hold on there, remember the USSR, although you console yourself with this.

              What "road to the stars" are you talking about? Or are you in an ironic sense?
              1. Irokez
                Irokez April 14 2020 21: 56 New
                -1
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                What "road to the stars" are you talking about?

                The road to the star is what you strive for and go, and naturally it does not happen smooth.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 14 2020 17: 24 New
          10
          Quote: Irokez
          We develop and equip our land and the leader to help us,

          Who equips? The Chinese, or what?
          1. Irokez
            Irokez April 14 2020 17: 51 New
            -6
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Who equips? The Chinese, or what?

            Do you have in Mordovia that the Chinese live?
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 April 14 2020 17: 57 New
              +9
              Quote: Irokez
              Do you have in Mordovia that the Chinese live?

              Trump, means, equips. What a hero you are, they escaped from the reservation.
              1. Irokez
                Irokez April 14 2020 18: 32 New
                -6
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                What a hero you are

                Yeah.

                escaped from the reservation

                By the way, the Indians have good subsidies on reservations, but they don’t have any work and they get drunk and therefore die out.

                But you never answered about the Chinese. In Mordovia on the territory of Russia, what do the Chinese live and equip everything there?
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 April 14 2020 18: 43 New
                  13
                  Quote: Irokez
                  but there is no work, they drink too much, and therefore die out.

                  You have not yet become extinct.
                  Quote: Irokez
                  In Mordovia on the territory of Russia, what do the Chinese live and equip everything there?

                  What makes you think that I am from Mordovia?
                  As for the Chinese, yes, they have built a car factory here. True, only young people are recruited there. There is nothing to catch like me, or my classmate with 25 years of experience as a car mechanic. So equip. Like the Germans, Americans, Italians. And from our leader-balabol, in addition to promises about 25 million jobs, no action.
                  1. Irokez
                    Irokez April 14 2020 19: 01 New
                    -7
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    And from our leader-balabol, in addition to promises about 25 million jobs, no action.

                    Do you mean 25 million managers? Few people go to our janitors and cleaners, but these are also jobs.
                    By the way, in the USA, all emigrants work in such places, but the hegemons themselves do not want to, and they are just looking for civil work, but right now they didn’t get sick and they will earn money taking into account the purchase of weapons.
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 April 14 2020 19: 09 New
                      10
                      Quote: Irokez
                      Few people go to our janitors and cleaners, but these are also jobs.

                      I don’t know where you live, but we have janitors and cleaners - all the russians. 12 thousand rubles are the salary of a janitor.
                      1. Irokez
                        Irokez April 14 2020 19: 30 New
                        -5
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        12 thousand rubles are the salary of a janitor.

                        Yes, something like that is lacking, and our smaller Tajiks and Uzbeks no longer want to work for that kind of money.
                        I also see and understand everything, and not as stupid as some of my posts may seem. I’m just trying to look at this whole problem in the country and around the world differently, from the outside, I’m not biased from my point of view (without self-interest, emotions, envy) and identify key points that interfere or help make the situation better for everyone, and not only for yourself or a group of people. Indeed, logically (and philosophically) my well-being in theory will appear when it appears at all, and not vice versa. That's how it should be in theory. I did it for everyone, well, and you got it like everyone else. Is logical. what
                  2. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 April 15 2020 11: 03 New
                    -2
                    In the May decrees, these 25 million jobs are spelled out as IP existing and created - so you can minimize your claims about 25 million jobs.
        3. Aag
          Aag April 14 2020 21: 07 New
          +3
          "Grandpa, you must be old if you think so."
          Rudeness to elders is a sign of not a big mind ...
      2. Tatyana
        Tatyana April 14 2020 16: 57 New
        14
        Quote: Irokez
        These areas, by the way, are not manufacturing, but service and helpful and they always and in the first place suffered, suffer and will suffer. Guys are looking for work outside these areas, but the only repair-finishers will always be held in high esteem.

        Ha! And who is this, for example, some builders - especially from the composition of foreign migrants - during the pandemic will let in for repair, for example, in his apartment? Do not make me laugh.
        And those who worked in the service sector and now in idle time - what kind of builders are they ?! They will build and repair you so that everything "built" by them at random will have to be redone by the owners!
        Current repairs will also be private owners for the time being, postponed for a while.
        1. Irokez
          Irokez April 14 2020 17: 28 New
          -6
          Quote: Tatiana
          Current repairs will also be private owners for the time being, postponed for a while.

          Yes, you are right and I agree with you, but who, for example, is preventing you from mastering this new profession. It would be a desire. love
          1. Alf
            Alf April 14 2020 19: 43 New
            +7
            Quote: Irokez
            There would be a desire.

            And the customers.
    2. Mastodon
      Mastodon April 14 2020 16: 47 New
      -2
      Quote: Irokez
      Damn Che again for a decadent and pro-popular article.

      Info war however .. hi
      Quote: Irokez
      These areas, by the way, are not manufacturing, but service and helpful and they always and in the first place suffered, suffer and will suffer. Guys are looking for work outside these areas, but the only repair-finishers will always be held in high esteem.

      That's right ..! Buy-sell these bugs-firms on the body of Russia must perish! Let it be hard, but nothing ..
      In the 98th, something like that was at the time of default, although not a comparison ..
      We will break through, we can’t get used to it in Russia, we only dream of peace ..
      1. Irokez
        Irokez April 14 2020 16: 52 New
        -6
        Quote: Mastodon
        We will break through, we can’t get used to it in Russia, we only dream of peace.

        Here it is in our opinion. Stagnation and supercomfort is a swamp and decay.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar April 14 2020 17: 42 New
          +4
          Eh, nails would do with these people fellow
          1. Irokez
            Irokez April 14 2020 17: 53 New
            -3
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Eh, nails would do with these people

            Yeah. Moreover, gold, although silver is also possible. yes
            1. Mastodon
              Mastodon April 14 2020 18: 09 New
              -2
              Quote: Irokez
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Eh, nails would do with these people

              Yeah. Moreover, gold, although silver is also possible. yes

              laughing good Well, dollars can also be given 33 ..)))))))
              1. Irokez
                Irokez April 14 2020 18: 34 New
                -1
                Quote: Mastodon
                Well, dollars can also be given 33 ..)))))))

                A better gold. drinks
                1. Mastodon
                  Mastodon April 14 2020 18: 47 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Irokez
                  Quote: Mastodon
                  Well, dollars can also be given 33 ..)))))))

                  A better gold. drinks

                  Well, we understood each other Sergey! laughing drinks
                  Come on, so as not to sell for 33 .. hi drinks
                  1. Irokez
                    Irokez April 14 2020 19: 04 New
                    -4
                    Don’t worry about the cons. There are special people with the profession of a minus signer, well, these are those who love to sell their homeland. wassat
                    1. Mastodon
                      Mastodon April 14 2020 20: 00 New
                      -6
                      Quote: Irokez
                      Don’t worry about the cons. There are special people with the profession of a minus signer, well, these are those who love to sell their homeland. wassat

                      A lot of them divorced something ..)))
                      Oh well, Sergey, what is the first time to go through this? Our ancestors are a steel generation, how many have taken out, and not virtually, but really from such ... This is not to be forgotten !!!! hi
          2. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin April 14 2020 18: 50 New
            +3
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Eh, nails would do with these people


            The trouble is, if the cobbler starts the cakes,
            And the boots stitch the pastry,

            And things won’t work out.
            Yes, and a hundredfold
            What who loves to take someone else’s craft.
            He forever others stubborn and foolish:
            It’s better to ruin everything,
            And glad soon
            The laughing stock of becoming light
            Than honest and knowledgeable people
            Ask il for advice.

            From the fable "Pike and the Cat" by Y. L. Krylov
            ! חג פסח שמח
          3. Revival
            Revival April 15 2020 04: 15 New
            -1
            And preferably as soon as possible
        2. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 April 14 2020 20: 32 New
          +3
          Quote: Irokez
          Stagnation and supercomfort is a swamp and decay.

          Holy truth. yes In such conditions, society for the most part turns into a scruffy herd of consumers, driven only by their own wishes. At a certain stage, this fate did not escape the Soviet Union, when literally all strata of society, from the "inhabitants of heaven" to ordinary proletarians, became permeated with philistine and consumerism. And, after all, exactly one hundred years ago, it was precisely against this phenomenon that Mayakovsky warned in his poem "On Trash":
          The storms of revolutionary bosoms calmed down
          Soviet mishmash turned up a mud
          And got out
          from behind the RSFSR
          mug
          tradesman
      2. Aag
        Aag April 14 2020 21: 16 New
        +2
        Buy-sell these bugs-firms on the body of Russia must die
        For this, a competitive production should appear, and nothing is being done for this.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 15 2020 11: 14 New
          +1
          Buy, sell, a lot of money will not bring. There should be a production of its own - it already exists in those areas where this production is cost-effective, for example, the production of civil microprocessors using 14 nm and 7 nm technology in Russia is unprofitable in any form, since it takes hundreds of billions of rubles and it should pay off within two years - there is almost no sales market; AMD and Intel both the external and internal markets are full.
    3. Horon
      Horon April 14 2020 16: 50 New
      10
      Alas, you can't argue with him here. If nothing is produced, then growth has nowhere to come from. General quarantine is also not a panacea, it only gives a delay to the outbreak, but if an effective method of treatment does not appear in the future, all these attempts will turn out to be ineffective in terms of epidemiology (they have already turned out), but terrible for the economy. Here you don't need to have seven spans in your forehead to understand the prospects. Quarantine methods must be changed from mass to targeted ones, otherwise, after a couple of months of general "self-isolation" the state will get an outbreak of crime and riots. People need something to eat, the internal reserves are getting smaller every day.
      1. Irokez
        Irokez April 14 2020 16: 54 New
        -7
        I agree, but it won’t be as scary as you described (as I see it), but quarantine will not last much and if it crashes, then everyone will start working as it should, and many of them will work as needed.
        1. Horon
          Horon April 14 2020 16: 59 New
          +1
          Let your words be to God’s ears!
          1. Irokez
            Irokez April 14 2020 17: 31 New
            -5
            Quote: Horon
            Let your words be to God’s ears!

            Yes, everyone knows and sees everything there, but maybe this is such a need to stir up everyone and bring them to their senses, so that their mind and logic are turned on and live as they should for life, and not as it should for parasites imposing on us their point of view and their world order which it is this hour that is crumbling. good
            1. Mastodon
              Mastodon April 14 2020 18: 52 New
              -4
              Quote: Irokez
              Quote: Horon
              Let your words be to God’s ears!

              Yes, everyone knows and sees everything there, but maybe this is such a need to stir up everyone and bring them to their senses, so that their mind and logic are turned on and live as they should for life, and not as it should for parasites imposing on us their point of view and their world order which it is this hour that is crumbling. good

              How did you express yourself hi !
              To live honestly and according to work, this is the main thing in life, and these lice love it when everything is bad for ordinary people and multiply on the body massively ..
              Nothing began to squeal en masse))))
              PS. Frying for them is preparing ..
              1. Irokez
                Irokez April 14 2020 19: 18 New
                -4
                Quote: Mastodon
                Fries are cooked for them.

                I will even say that.
                Not everything is positive - what is good this hour and what is negative this hour is positive in the future (later). That is, good and evil, depending on its application, this hour can give a result with the opposite effect in the future, for we divided white - good, and dark - bad.
                In other words, when the head of state takes for example popular actions that people like (good for the people, heats their souls, makes them happy) they raise their rating, but exacerbate the situation in the future (but people don’t understand this and live only today). And vice versa, when a leader is forced to introduce not popular laws or decrees, then people get in trouble, resent, criticize because people don’t like it and the leader’s rating drops, but over time this unpopular measure has led the country to a new and promising path of development, after which everything became better and the prospect of further improvement.
                Output. Evil and good are the two essences of life, necessary and necessary, and their clever application gives benefits in the future, which means that some evil at this time for the whole world is good in the future for him, and accordingly fire am for some, it’s good for many.
                Not so scary - the Devil is painted as he is, you need to catch him by the tail, break off the horns and use when necessary (as intended) and everything will be fine. fellow
      2. Alf
        Alf April 14 2020 19: 45 New
        +5
        Quote: Horon
        If nothing is produced, then growth has nowhere to come from.

        Mishustin recently ordered a sharp increase in the export of technological products. He did not answer the questions in the comments - what do we produce high-tech?
        1. Mastodon
          Mastodon April 14 2020 20: 56 New
          -4
          Quote: Alf
          He did not answer the questions in the comments - what do we produce high-tech?

          And he did it right, it’s not Dimon Medvedev for you .. hi
    4. victor50
      victor50 April 14 2020 16: 52 New
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      Quote: Irokez
      other not very vital expenses (iPhones, cars, palaces, tours, nails, eyelashes, tattoos, etc.) and are not needed in FIG.

      and the repair and decoration of apartments is very relevant when money is only on food and medicine laughing
    5. English tarantas
      English tarantas April 14 2020 16: 53 New
      +7
      And this is the most important expert

      The head of the Accounts Chamber, together with his subordinates, is really the main expert.
      These areas, by the way, are not manufacturing, but service and helpful and they always and in the first place suffered, suffer and will suffer. Guys are looking for work outside these areas, but the only repair-finishers will always be held in high esteem.

      Where to look for a job? To go to the plants? Or maybe I do not want? And who will give me education and a job and who will take me to it? What to do for students, people with education in the service sector, what to do for people who need this sphere in everyday life, what to do for those who have long been settled and are satisfied with the work of the same waiter, taxi driver?
      Yes, this is a fact, but it’s also an incentive to begin to replace these goods themselves, just those who will suffer in the field of service and services have suffered.

      Everything was in the USSR, everything collapsed from the 91st, woke up from 2014, and never imported, although there was no quarantine and everything worked.
      Everything is logical, if these people had a desire.

      Do you have a desire to change work, education, and the field of activity in general? Something tells me not.
      1. Irokez
        Irokez April 14 2020 17: 17 New
        -3

        - The head of the Accounts Chamber, together with his subordinates, is really the main expert.

        - Where to look for work? Go car mechanic? Go to the factory?
        “Or maybe I don't want to?” And who will give me an education and a job?
        - What should students do?
        - People with education in the service sector?
        - What should people do who need this sphere in everyday life?
        - What to do for those who have long been settled and are satisfied with the work of the same waiter, taxi driver?

        - Everything was in the USSR, from the 91st everything was destroyed
        - since 2014, we woke up, and did not import substitute, although there was no quarantine and everything worked.

        - Do you have a desire to change work, education, and the sphere of activity in general?


        * This is a liberal suspended from work in whose friends Chubai and Gref. Well, I don’t trust him at all.

        * There is a labor exchange, newspaper advertisements, government agencies involved in employment, and also offer retraining or advanced training. WOULD YOU DESIRE personally, but if there is no desire, then this is your problem (water does not go under a lying stone). Students on a point must learn, and not everyone without parents certainly helps mom and dad.
        The service sector will die (it will only decrease to the optimal level in life), so do not worry, those who truly will do these services will work there, on time and on time. So you will use the services and rather better than it was.

        * The waiters will also remain, but there will be fewer (don’t worry), as well as those establishments that have already bred over the edge and are fed so-so little and even for a lot of money. Passing by in the windows you look - it’s empty, and you come in so almost the last you give for yourself only appetite to catch up.

        * In the USSR it was, but the question was not for me, I did not bring it down. Since 2014, everything has begun to manifest itself clearly and our "partners" have shown their true colors with the sanctions, but the fact that we were unable to substitute a lot of import. You are mistaken a lot, but not everything, because everything will not work out right away.

        * There is no desire to change work yet, but if it’s worth it (hear it’s worth it), there’s nowhere to go and I can begin to re-learn something at different jobs. Yes, it will be difficult physically and psychologically, but life goes on and no one dies from this.
        1. English tarantas
          English tarantas April 14 2020 17: 32 New
          +7
          Well, I don’t trust him at all.

          And just say so, do not believe me - your problem, no one forced you.
          (water does not go under a lying stone)

          I gave you some examples, but apparently you still do not understand. Because
          Students on a point must learn, and not everyone without parents certainly helps mom and dad.
          The service sector will die (only reduced to the optimal level of life

          There are all sorts of reasons, someone has to work where it turns out and worked out. If the service sector has grown, then there is demand, the employer is also not, if the employee does not pay for his salary, then he will not be hired.
          But about Wishlist, not always everything depends on your persistent desire and the need to change jobs. I already wrote to you who will give you a paid education, at least secondary (to work in production), who will give you a workplace, when the factories are filled with workers who have been sitting for years with education and experience, the employer does not care about your desire not to starve to death, There are objective circumstances that neither you, nor employers, nor the state can affect.
        2. English tarantas
          English tarantas April 14 2020 17: 37 New
          +5
          mi, but the fact that we couldn’t replace a lot of import You are mistaken a lot

          Same as you say production. What is your phone, computer, TV, refrigerator, do you know a little of people using foreign cars, furniture, plumbing, medicines? Yes, even a movie, they shot it, they dumped money, but it does not pay off.
          1. Irokez
            Irokez April 14 2020 18: 27 New
            0
            You either do not quite understand reality, or I do not quite understand you.
            Firstly, high-tech goods such as a cell phone, a computer, and already a TV set are produced not by everything in the world, as you might think from your message, but only by the world's major transnational companies (and you can count them on your fingers) and they are mainly produced in China. Therefore, catching up with something that while there is no way to quickly master it will not work because our perestroika during the EBN erased everything in the field of electronics, aircraft, machine-tool building and others, and development simply stifled all these times (I remember Chubais said: - "Why produce - you can buy" ). Therefore, why ask such a stupid question and knowingly know that it is still (I repeat YET) impossible. Although work is underway and we are trying to master our processors and aircraft engines and machine tools and much more, but not all at once.
            And not everything is as bad as you think. Technology and production are being established, of all kinds of electronics so far, albeit a screwdriver, but gradually with a share of their own parts manufactured in the country than brought for assembly from abroad. The same televisions, cars, refrigerators, and even a lot of everything and with time everything will be mastered, and by the way, a lot of things will be exported abroad as a part and assembled there (there is and will be cooperation and we will participate in it).
            A simple example (a small trifle) of radio components based on old technologies of the 90s, many companies buy the same power supply stabilizers from our devices and if you have a cool cell phone, it may happen that our Russian power supply stabilizer is verified information from the first faces. But you will tell a trifle and only, but without it there is no way.
            - Damn the furniture, but they don’t do furniture, but I’m surprised by the question.
            - Plumbing, all of which are ours and imported, and even in the USSR it was.
            “Medicines, sailed again.” It depends on what are the analogues of imported and their own, and what are you scaring everyone here.
            - And what kind of cinema, what are you talking about about those soap operas and TV shows that are played so that people would be sitting on TVs. Yes, I don’t even watch telly for about 10 years. And there are very few good films really present in the subject and realities, but this is a question for directors and movie stars with a truly Russian Soul. The media industry is still influenced by Western values ​​and it needs to be changed to its national one and it (the cinema) should not be paid off in finance in theory - it should be paid off in the minds and values ​​of a person. It pays for money mainly in a market economy (democratic).
            1. English tarantas
              English tarantas April 15 2020 10: 44 New
              +1
              The fact is that import substitution of the goods I have listed is proceeding at an extremely slow pace, and also has strategic importance, everything is assembled in Russia and even using domestic components. But the essence of import substitution is that in the case of, for example, war, we could be able to do everything we need ourselves and profit from activities remained in Russia, rather than going to China, Asia, America, Europe, if tomorrow foreign companies cease operations in Russia, it will not help us what we do plastic cases ourselves. Yes, we also make medicines and furniture with sanitary ware here, but if we can fully compensate for the loss of foreign goods, prevented a shortage before it began - I doubt it.
              1. Irokez
                Irokez April 15 2020 11: 14 New
                0
                Yes, I understand perfectly what you are writing and what you are worried about.
                But for example North Korea, Iran and other rogue countries from the "Axis of Evil" according to American terminology have lived and will continue to live. Yes it is difficult for them, hard, but they are alive. And Russia, with more and more diverse technology and space developments, will even more live and prosper, albeit with some difficulties that we will overcome sooner or later.
                If there are no advanced technologies of today's world level, then they are of the previous level and this is not a failure, but simply the normal use of previous developments in new realities, plus you can upgrade the old and almost new, but using old technologies.
                In addition, even if isolation was on the part of the capital countries (as it was in the USSR), all the same, through third countries everything could be bought for more money than at ordinary market prices.
                The economy will begin to develop in all directions, and sooner or later we will catch up and overtake everyone (well, this is not the first time for us to do this and by the way is largely successful).
                I’m talking about electronics as always about mass things that are released for consumers (here it’s better that Asians do not manage to mass-produce), but what we have in the military commissar is at the world level and this is somehow said by an American expert.
                So not everything is as scary as it seems.
            2. English tarantas
              English tarantas April 15 2020 10: 49 New
              0
              the idea should not be paid off in finances - it should be paid off in the minds and values ​​of a person. It pays for money mainly in a market economy (democratic).

              But doesn’t it seem to you that if the film doesn’t pay off, then few people watched it. So who has what is left in the soul? It should remain with young people, the elderly do not need to instill a love of the motherland, the values ​​of our society. But why should a young man go to the cinema for a Russian film if he has poor directing, plot, camera work, with enormous investment (often by the Ministry of Culture!).
              1. Irokez
                Irokez April 15 2020 12: 12 New
                -1
                Quote: English tarantass
                But why should a young man go to the cinema for a Russian film if he has poor directing, plot, camera work

                Films to films are different. And films are created deliberately for a particular consumer and have different financial and consumer returns. For example, young people are drawn to everything energetic, militant, action-packed, scary-terrifying, but more conscious viewers are already full and they need a more meaningful and philosophical with patriotic. It turns out that a spectacular show for young people is more stupid and not patriotic, but more profitable because a lot of young people go for it, while older people don’t go to cinemas much and don’t give money (they save or they watch an Internet when this movie takes place in cinemas), here you have the payback of different films and for different categories of films.
                Quality also plays a lot in films - cheaper - less quality, expensive - high-quality and with more cool actors, and since our films are mostly low-budget, what quality can be discussed.
                It is necessary to revive the school of acting and cinematographic art of the USSR, but in the context of semi-capitalism of semi-socialism, this is not yet realistic.
        3. Alf
          Alf April 14 2020 19: 47 New
          +6
          Quote: Irokez
          This is a liberal suspended from work in whose friends Chubai and Gref.

          And WHO appointed him prime minister ...
          1. Irokez
            Irokez April 14 2020 19: 59 New
            -3
            The one who probably removed him. So I could not cope or worked for others. To find out a person, you need to work with him.
            1. Alf
              Alf April 14 2020 20: 07 New
              +4
              Quote: Irokez
              The one who probably removed him.

              What did Putin remove him from?
              Quote: Irokez
              To find out a person, you need to work with him.

              Something only at Putin at the premieres no one is particularly long delayed. Perhaps these people do not know how to work. But what then looks like the one who stupid constantly takes to work?
              1. Irokez
                Irokez April 14 2020 22: 03 New
                0
                Are there those who can? Poke a finger?
                1. Alf
                  Alf April 14 2020 22: 12 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Irokez
                  Are there those who can? Poke a finger?

                  Glazyev, Katasonov, and the same "strawberry king".
                  1. Irokez
                    Irokez April 14 2020 22: 47 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Alf
                    Glazyev, Katasonov, and the same "strawberry king".

                    He was an adviser with Putin, and by the way, it seems that they introduced a 15% tax on export capital to offshore companies.
                    Katasonov - well, I don’t know, he speaks cleverly, but I don’t know how it is and what kind of soul.
                    Strawberry King - I don’t know that.
                    Who knows we can and offered to work, but refused.
                    1. Alf
                      Alf April 15 2020 18: 24 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Irokez
                      Who knows we can and offered to work, but refused.

                      Grudinin did the right thing to refuse. Because Putin would have tied him hand and foot and would have announced later that Grudinin could do nothing. I also recall the words of D'artanyan, when the cardinal invited him to become a guard - I would be badly received here and looked askance there.
                      1. Irokez
                        Irokez April 15 2020 18: 26 New
                        -1
                        Well, this is only your opinion, but it is only yours.
    6. Svarog
      Svarog April 14 2020 17: 01 New
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      Quote: Irokez
      I agree that in times and times of change, people begin to spend only on what they need, and all other not very vital expenses (iPhones, cars, palaces, tours, nails, eyelashes, tattoos, etc.) and are not needed in FIG.

      80% of the population has not had this for a long time ..
      You propose to focus only on food .. Is there a doshirak, so is it not so bad? Well, dressing, treatment, cultural events to attend .. this is your superfluous ..
      1. Irokez
        Irokez April 14 2020 17: 50 New
        -5
        Quote: Svarog
        80% of the population has not had this for a long time ..
        You propose to focus only on food .. Is there a doshirak, so is it not so bad? Well, dressing, treatment, cultural events to attend .. this is your superfluous ..


        Well, for example, almost all young people and other well-to-do people have cell phones (not even iPhones, but on a level with them) and the old ones are also working, but less cool. Almost everyone doesn’t spit cars, and it’s not an old pancake, but a newer one and sometimes it happens in a family for everyone (in the USSR, I remember a luxury car, damn it, but we are in the USSR). A lot of people rested on trips over the hill (and even many of the probable opponents). And since young people and not only their body are allegedly mutilated according to fashion and beauty, then I am generally silent - the true beauty is visible without sweeteners, enhancers and preservatives.
        Don’t be fooled about the doshirak - this is food for the lazy and by the way it’s bad it’s also harmful and I won’t believe that you can’t buy cereals, potatoes, fish, chicken and the like, and given that fasting, you should try to eat without meat for meat is not the most important product. Although he is an omnivorous man like a bear, plant food is more useful and harmless (you can live longer by secret) and you, as Svarog, should be known to the God of the ancient Slavs.
        You can always dress if you do not buy something fashionable and every week, but only that which is practical, beautiful, and cultural lies with you without any unnecessary wisdom and adornments. And buy through the Internet, it’s cheaper there, I don’t say squeamish about second-hand, although many people get very cool clothes there.
        There are cultural events and they have not gone away. Sit at home with your family and this is a holiday, watch pop divas on TV there they are more beautiful and glamorous, and at concerts are drunk. The quarantine will end both on fishing and on kebabs reeling in and there will be entertainment and leisure for you. Who seeks will always find. Not everything is as scary in the future as it seems. Everything will be fine (I found out). yes
        1. Alf
          Alf April 14 2020 19: 54 New
          +6
          Quote: Irokez
          You can always dress if you don’t buy something fashionable and every week, but only that which is practical and beautiful,

          And in which country is all this beautiful and practical produced? Have you seen a lot of such things with the tag Made in Russia? Usually either made in China or fucking expensive. Why do I wear winter boots of unknown origin for the third year without problems, and the vaunted and advertised Ralph-Ringer of the domestic edition fell apart at the beginning of the second season?
          1. Irokez
            Irokez April 14 2020 20: 08 New
            -3
            Quote: Alf
            and the vaunted and advertised Ralph-Ringer of the domestic edition fell apart at the beginning of the second season?

            This speaks of poor quality. And sometimes it happens that it is not done with us, but is sold as ours, and here I am not an advisor to you what to buy and what to wear. As the saying goes: - "I'm not rich enough to buy cheap things."
            And if you see a label of some well-known company, then this is not a fact that it was made there, but most likely it was made in the basement of a neighboring house anyway, but you need a famous label to buy it. Everything is simple and you know about it, but they ask me a stupid question.
            1. Alf
              Alf April 14 2020 20: 11 New
              +5
              Quote: Irokez
              And if you see a label of some well-known company, then this is not a fact that it was made there, but most likely it was made in the basement of a neighboring house anyway, but you need a famous label to buy it. Everything is simple and you know about it, but they ask me a stupid question.

              And sold in a company store?
              By the way, you did not answer a single question asked by me, which indicates that you simply have nothing to say and you are starting to drive verbal ... fog.
              1. Irokez
                Irokez April 14 2020 20: 17 New
                -1
                Quote: Alf
                And sold in a company store?

                If you buy a modern branded car from the company, then how reliable it will be - excellent compared to the old years when you could fix the car yourself even with a minimum of spare parts or periodically go to service, and if something goes wrong, you buy a whole a set of parts to fix one problem. Branded shoes can also be bought, but they are vilified for one season and thrown away because they will fall apart after a while. Like disposable watches without changing batteries, like incandescent bulbs and condoms, masks, gloves and the like. The main thing is that you buy as often as possible, and how to do this you see on the example of your purchased items.
                Better yet, an example of left-handed vodka is beautiful and indistinguishable from the original, but my head hurts in the morning.
                1. Alf
                  Alf April 14 2020 20: 24 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Alf
                  By the way, you did not answer a single question asked by me, which indicates that you simply have nothing to say and you are starting to drive verbal ... fog.

                  There are no more questions, there is nothing to discuss.
                  1. Irokez
                    Irokez April 14 2020 22: 57 New
                    0
                    Quote: Alf
                    Glazyev, Katasonov, and the same "strawberry king".


                    And keep asking questions?
                    Glazyev, Katasonov, and the same "strawberry king".


                    Well, okay, it's time to sleep already.
      2. 72jora72
        72jora72 April 15 2020 07: 04 New
        -1
        .. There is a doshirak, so not everything is so bad?
        When I had 10 months of wage arrears and the price tags in the shops changed several times a day, yes, if there was tea, a pack of cigarettes, and what thread to hang on, yes life went on ..........
    7. Aag
      Aag April 14 2020 21: 00 New
      +3
      The theses, it seems, are true. Only superficial, and late for 10 years.
      "the only repair-finishers will always be held in high esteem." Apparently you were engaged in this. Me too. If you did, you can imagine that there are "fat" clients, and there are those that are at a loss, but the client base needs to be earned. So, I don't know how, where, but in Irkutsk, already 10 years ago, the Chinese, Koreans, Tajiks, Uzbeks dumped everything. There was really a rollback due to the quality of the work. But this is not the topic. On the topic, the people do not have money! At least the number of customers dropped significantly.
      Another area, for which I know, is a car service. A little later, but people began to visit not when something creaked, rustled, but when it was already completely. Yes, it is still desirable to borrow.
      Well, this is so, about the self-employed ..
      Now:
      "Everything is logical, these people would have a desire"
      There is little desire. It is necessary to have the opportunity, expediency and prospects. PRODUCTION, even a little bit essential, in the current tax system, without lobbying, cheating for small businesses, and for the average (remember 17 sput.) - unprofitable!
      ABOUT! They have already thrown it over here ... I think it will be difficult to convince you ...
  • o_zotov
    o_zotov April 14 2020 16: 35 New
    -2
    The devastating consequences of a pandemic for the Russian economy


    We defeated the Pechenegs and Polovtsy, we will defeat the devastating consequences of the pandemic for the Russian economy !!!
    1. Beringovsky
      Beringovsky April 14 2020 17: 33 New
      +8
      Ha ha
      And where is our Commander who will lead us to the Pechenegs?
      Zzzzzzzzzzzz .....
      Where did he go?
      1. Alf
        Alf April 14 2020 19: 55 New
        +7
        Quote: Beringovsky
        Ha ha
        And where is our Commander who will lead us to the Pechenegs?
        Zzzzzzzzzzzz .....
        Where did he go?

        He was considering a plan of counterattack ... But nothing more clever than a blow to his own did not come up.
  • Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich April 14 2020 16: 36 New
    11
    According to my family, the youngest daughter in Moscow already gave me shibanula and a pendell, the salon is closed at home, she cannot come home, and what they say there are ghouls headed by a woman of half a glass, it did not become easier.
    1. minus
      minus April 14 2020 16: 50 New
      10
      We are finalizing the week ,,,, Preservation of equipment, power supply and heating systems, g of hot water ... And we are writing until June 1 without maintenance ....
      1. primaala
        primaala April 14 2020 17: 41 New
        -12
        Quote: Minus
        We are finalizing the week ,,,, Preservation of equipment, power supply and heating systems, g of hot water ... And we are writing until June 1 without maintenance ....

        Write specifically. At least the city voiced. And then I know you ... sufferers ...
        1. minus
          minus April 14 2020 17: 44 New
          13
          Minusinsk, a sanatorium. Doctors, maids and cooks were sent at the beginning of the month ... But do not show me for the sufferer! Better tell me how three children normally provide in such conditions?
          1. primaala
            primaala April 14 2020 17: 52 New
            -8
            Minusinsk, a sanatorium. Doctors, maids and cooks were sent earlier this month ...
            ===============
            Sanatorium municipal? Or private?
            If the second ... is obliged to pay a lover salary. And even more so, no one can know how long it will take ... In one month, all of the private traders "general director" are not able to pay salaries ???
            1. minus
              minus April 14 2020 17: 57 New
              14
              Have to pay? This will not be called who is talking about saving sn ... No money! Not at all! Only electricity debt! No people, no financial income! How to pay ???????
              1. primaala
                primaala April 14 2020 18: 00 New
                -13
                Quote: Minus
                Have to pay? This will not be called who is talking about saving sn ... No money! Not at all! Only electricity debt! No people, no financial income! How to pay ???????

                It’s strange. So the sanatorium is private. Look for a job more seriously. What so attracts people to private traders !? who do not comply with the law of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation.
                1. minus
                  minus April 14 2020 18: 16 New
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                  And so I want to write a bad word ... Well, okay, I won’t ... And where are we not private traders ???? Well, at least in my city ???? No !!! In the energy sector, the offices are also conditionally state-owned. From MES and RES, many people have been reduced even earlier, with an increase in load. In fact, the only repair team on duty in the entire area! At CHP ZP more or less of course ...
                  But a huge number of managers are busy precisely in order to convict anyone of violating the rules and not to pay any allowances. Imagine, the screens, and the broadcast on them, these bad people, violated paragraph 2119 of the rules! Rebuke, depriving of premiums! There is no interest in the staff growing technically ... They just look for how to cut the sn ... And he sits for some kind of repair, he doesn’t turn off the soldering iron all day ... Just who is at the door, he dunks it with rosin, it works.
                  .. Because you can’t just sit, it means a parasite. Ugh!
                  1. primaala
                    primaala April 14 2020 20: 32 New
                    -3
                    And so I want to write a bad word ... Well, okay, I won’t ... And where are we not private traders ???? Well, at least in my city ???? No !!! In the energy sector, the offices are also conditionally state-owned. From MES and RES, many people have been reduced even earlier, with an increase in load. In fact, the only repair team on duty in the entire area! At CHP ZP more or less of course ...
                    =======================
                    It was not about you personally. If offended by a word, I'm sorry. I can not know about your city. I judge in the radius of my vast region - and this is the Urals, Western Siberia, the Far East and almost to Alaska.
                    You wrote "conditionally" state. With which I do not agree. The main block of shares is owned by the state of ALL power plants in the country. Apart from large enterprises ... the same for the WHOLE COUNTRY. And all these production structures comply with the law of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation. Starting from zero ... all activities of enterprises are recorded in the system. Under strict control.
                    Private traders are of course everywhere. And I want to note, it’s better to go to the janitors than to plow the arrogant and greedy private trader. But still they want to be the gene \ directors of the IP.
                    Yes. Today, a janitor does not get a job. MOVED naz. (Unfortunately).
                    But they work. Not ashamed. I personally respect the work of hard workers. IM would pay s / n deputy. And the deputies would have given 20 thousand in m \ c. And then they would see if there are many who want to fight for the chair.
        2. minus
          minus April 14 2020 17: 47 New
          +6
          Winter is always always in the red. Due to last season. Now, no one cancels the team without work and also for the same electricity supply ...
    2. Mastodon
      Mastodon April 14 2020 16: 50 New
      -8
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      According to my family, the youngest daughter in Moscow already gave a shibanula and a pendel, the salon is closed at home, she can’t come home,

      Here, some already come to the provinces and begin violent activity (there is money and purchase parties begin, etc.), and they themselves are infected with the infection .. Here it is the vaunted capitalist shift system ..
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  • YOUR
    YOUR April 14 2020 16: 42 New
    +4
    Now the country's leadership is faced with the main task: to prevent a social catastrophe in the country and, as a result, political destabilization against the backdrop of the economic crisis. Therefore, of course, funds from the National Wealth Fund will be thrown to overcome the consequences of the pandemic.

    Respect to the author for a great joke. 300 billion rubles were thrown to overcome the consequences of the pandemic, and some strange operation went through 2,14 trillion rubles from the National Wealth Fund to the Central Bank, and shares of Sberbank were bought out. When in that direction they gave away just like that, back just for unrealistic money.
    1. Machito
      Machito April 14 2020 21: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: YOUR
      Now the country's leadership is faced with the main task: to prevent a social catastrophe in the country and, as a result, political destabilization against the backdrop of the economic crisis. Therefore, of course, funds from the National Wealth Fund will be thrown to overcome the consequences of the pandemic.

      Respect to the author for a great joke. 300 billion rubles were thrown to overcome the consequences of the pandemic, and some strange operation went through 2,14 trillion rubles from the National Wealth Fund to the Central Bank, and shares of Sberbank were bought out. When in that direction they gave away just like that, back just for unrealistic money.

      Naikalovo.
      1. YOUR
        YOUR April 15 2020 02: 50 New
        0
        I don’t want to argue. There was infa that 1 trillion rubles will be allocated to overcome the consequences of the pandemic. And painted where and what will be sent
        According to sources, general support measures (more than 500 billion rubles) include assistance to system-forming enterprises, companies in the field of construction, air transportation, automobile and light industry, co-financing of regional development programs from the federal budget, support for import substitution programs in industry, as well as decrease in the amount of collateral under state contracts.

        Those. 520 billion down.
        Social support measures (about 300 billion rubles) include salary payments to organizations in the affected sectors in the amount of 1 minimum wage per employee, expansion of the program of interest-free “salary” loans to medium and large enterprises.

        Those. banks. And see how these zero loans will be issued. Each bank defines itself. Sberbank conditions - 6 months at zero% and only for salary, then at 4% if you haven’t returned it within 6 months and after another 6 months automatically clerical work. Taxes have not been canceled, taxes shifted for 6 months. A fiddled man took a loan for his employees, shifted taxes and after 6 months he needs to pay taxes for 6 months + for the current and give a loan. The amount for small fry that is barely scraped for tax and for rent is unrealistic.
        Yet
        430 billion rubles. will go to state guarantees.
        those. banks to provide loans.
        Where and who saw the care of Russian citizens? I have not seen.
        There is money to hand out leaflets before the election, there are no masks to provide. Meanwhile, another decree came out, not to serve customers and masks. Fine for those who served 50 thousand.
        I think the decree is correct, but again everything falls on the citizens ’wallet. Masks soared in price. From 10 rubles to 30 you can buy at the checkout in the store. BUY!!!!!!!
        There is no limit to indignation, recently everyone measures money, so I measure the same and I want to find out where my taxes went, why the state, when needed, pretended that I was gone.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty April 14 2020 16: 44 New
    11
    Now the country's population is divided into not yet poor, and already poor, and after the crisis we will all be equal in terms of finances - because of their absence from us, we will not depend on money. ..
  • Svarog
    Svarog April 14 2020 16: 52 New
    12
    Now the country's leadership is faced with the main task: to prevent a social catastrophe in the country and, as a result, political destabilization against the backdrop of the economic crisis. Therefore, of course, funds from the National Wealth Fund will be thrown to overcome the consequences of the pandemic. A separate question: how much of these funds will be enough in case of a protracted economic crisis.

    The country's leadership has already proved its bankruptcy .. They even plastered the epidemic .. Sad times await us, they scared everyone before 90, but they are already on the verge ..
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 April 14 2020 16: 54 New
    -9
    The consequences for the economy in full will be visible only at the end of the year - that now they talk about them "Maybe" "Probably" "10%" "15%" "20%" are just continuous guesses and assumptions.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 14 2020 16: 59 New
    +2
    To provide food and services to 140 million people, to maintain social production, "trillions of money boxes" will be enough. And to preserve the income of business sharks in the context of the global crisis, funds are definitely not enough.
    The author involuntarily repeats Yaroslavna's "lament" for business from RBC ... Now the stability of the state is measured not by "GDP growth", but by the amount of canned meat per capita. Let's survive first. And then, those who survive the crisis and epidemic will re-divide the market and get a job.
    1. minus
      minus April 14 2020 17: 18 New
      10
      That’s just the sharks of the business just enough ... Our jar of stewed meat will be taken away for sure .. This is precisely the problem of the survival of ordinary citizens.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 14 2020 18: 45 New
        -10
        Nobody will take your carrot - since we already have it with a large margin for the future.
        1. minus
          minus April 14 2020 18: 57 New
          +7
          Dear, go to Solovyov’s program and debate with pro-Kremlin clowns about anything ... How to live well, which government is good ...
          But do not tell a simple workaholic, with three underage children, how to live well with us ... I don’t believe in a fairy tale for a long time.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 15 2020 11: 31 New
            -2
            But judging because you are sending me to Solovyov - you are watching him cleanly and his speeches are going after 12 at night - that is, you do not have to get up to work at 9 o’clock. In my practice, those who are aching that he will live badly; no workers in life, they want to completely stagnate, do not want to change their life and always wait for someone to change everything for them.
            1. minus
              minus April 15 2020 17: 17 New
              +1
              I work two days a day, so sometimes I turn it on for several minutes at night) And on the rest of the days, building a house and occupation with children. What do you suggest I change?
        2. minus
          minus April 14 2020 19: 00 New
          +6
          Only if your stocks, in most cases speculative and exploited by hard workers, have not been expropriated .... Think about it.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 15 2020 11: 38 New
            -1
            My speculation is limited to playing on the stock exchange - and even then I play a little, but at a large bet on oil and gold. Everything else is production and service. All my hard workers get excellent complaints; there are no CNC operators 14 minimum wages plus bonuses.
            1. minus
              minus April 15 2020 17: 28 New
              +1
              If so, then of course. He himself worked in one organization about 10 years ago ... Bonuses, good pay ... Then 80000 rubles for our city was great. But this organization is no more. But most of the salaries you indicated do not see in your dreams. I remember how the owner came to our cracker plant included in the KDV group many years ago. I learned the average zp in the city and cut it in production twice! Type in your city and such sn is enough!
        3. Aag
          Aag April 14 2020 21: 44 New
          +1
          Vadim, do you have our stew?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 15 2020 11: 34 New
            -1
            It’s vryatli - well, unless you made it and sold it to me.
  • primaala
    primaala April 14 2020 17: 14 New
    -4
    but the head of the Audit Chamber, Alexei Kudrin, on the contrary, is predicting Russia's economic recession
    ==============
    Why was Kudrin not worried about Russia when he took an active part in cutting the budget in the 90s !?
    Why Kudrin promoted the sale to foreigners, state property, together with the seven-bank, and with the same "Alec the first" ???
    And suddenly he turned into an "economist" pitying the country. Second Koreiko.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 14 2020 18: 16 New
      +9
      Quote: primaala
      Why Kudrin

      Quote: primaala
      Why Kudrin

      Quote: primaala
      And suddenly turned

      But I wonder why Putin sticks Kudrin everywhere?
      1. primaala
        primaala April 14 2020 20: 18 New
        -5
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: primaala
        Why Kudrin

        Quote: primaala
        Why Kudrin

        Quote: primaala
        And suddenly turned

        But I wonder why Putin sticks Kudrin everywhere?

        So it is NECESSARY.
        1. Machito
          Machito April 14 2020 21: 07 New
          +4
          Because Kudrin is a fucking manager who needs millions to pay for servants.
        2. Leshy1975
          Leshy1975 April 14 2020 22: 03 New
          +2
          Quote: primaala
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote: primaala
          Why Kudrin

          Quote: primaala
          Why Kudrin

          Quote: primaala
          And suddenly turned

          But I wonder why Putin sticks Kudrin everywhere?

          So it is NECESSARY.

          Alla, bravo good !!! Burn!
          I am delighted with your comments. Well this is how to be able to write like that. In the first comment, criticize Kudrin, then in the second to write that Putin appoints him because
          So it is NECESSARY

          Or do you gradually bring to the conclusion that Putin specifically appoints Kudrin as a torpedo against the Russian Federation? laughing

          PS Pluralism of opinions is of course very good, but not when it exists in one mind on the same issue. laughing It already smacks of a split personality. yes
  • APASUS
    APASUS April 14 2020 17: 23 New
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    Not so long ago, the Chairman of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation, Valentina Matvienko, tried to reassure the Russians: they say that even with low oil prices, our country will be able to overcome the economic crisis.

    Yes, yes, I remember, we were promised in 2008, too ..........!
    2008 year. In late January, in Davos, the then Russian Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin called Russia something of a "safe haven."
    And then there was no one to be responsible for the bazaar ..........
  • demo
    demo April 14 2020 17: 25 New
    12
    Now the country's leadership is faced with the main task: to prevent a social catastrophe in the country and, as a result, political destabilization against the backdrop of the economic crisis. Therefore, of course, funds from the National Wealth Fund will be thrown to overcome the consequences of the pandemic. A separate question: how much of these funds will be enough in case of a protracted economic crisis.[B] [/ b]
    I don’t know about the catastrophe.
    But everyone will have to be tight.
    And on account of the fact that the author considers it "for granted" to throw funds from the NWF to overcome the consequences - this also raises reasonable doubts in me.
    So "unexpectedly" everything fell on our "head" that she completely passed out.
    Something slurred mumbles. And he thinks that everything will resolve by itself.
    Thus, all those positive groundwork that the "head" had earlier, today simply lost their value.
    Recently I read the title of an article - "It doesn't matter how you behaved during the crisis, it is important how you got out of it."
    And here one thing is clear.
    If the "head" starts pushing unpopular decisions on the governors and mayors, thinking thereby to stay "above the fight", then this maneuver will not work.
    During the war, there is no collective decision-making, or decision made by the deputy.
    Either you lead, or you have no place at the top of power.
    Consequently, the "head" made a long time ago an unambiguous decision - the salvation of the drowning is a matter of the drowning themselves.
    Well, in our history it happened - not once or twice.
    Break through.
  • Amateur
    Amateur April 14 2020 17: 25 New
    16
    Today in the news, the Guarantor again promised to keep salaries for the time of self-isolation. Only once again he did not say where the private traders would get this money. It seems he forgot that in Russia capitalism.
    1. Alf
      Alf April 14 2020 20: 01 New
      +7
      Quote: Amateur
      Only once again he did not say where the private traders would get this money.

      Why not say? Yesterday the news slipped that to combat this, the Security Council opened a credit line of 600 billion. I just forgot to say that 600 billion to save such a country is less than nothing, and then this is a LOAN, which will have to be paid ...
      1. Amateur
        Amateur April 14 2020 20: 07 New
        +3
        Yesterday the news slipped that to combat this Security Council

        Is the guarantor the president of Sberbank? Have I really missed such news. Loans separately, income separately.
        1. Alf
          Alf April 15 2020 18: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: Amateur
          Is the guarantor president of Sberbank?

          And what about this?
          Quote: Amateur
          Really I missed such news.

          News feeds need to be monitored.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 14 2020 17: 34 New
    18
    The devastating consequences of a pandemic for the Russian economy

    This is concrete crap. What are the devastating consequences? For twenty years we have been listening to the praises of the existing power and order from all the “irons”.
    This coronavirus would have to be invented, because the population is no longer “waged” either by the machinations of the West, nor by the sanctions packages, nor by the low prices of hydrocarbons, nor by exchange rates, nor by seeing a world conspiracy against Russia, like this or that well-fed and contented ones flashed there, completely spoiled by intellect, faces full of fat, which only manage to approve their own salaries by law, or legitimize benefits and privileges, or stupidly equip their foreign business, adding talented relatives to manage companies, suddenly by profitable ones, or simply into the impudent according to various schemes, budgetary and simply capital, obtained through rotten taxation or offshore frauds, is taken away ...
    And then it happened! fellow At the beginning of the 20s, the country of the Soviets was able to defeat typhoid, cholera, and diphtheria ... And how many diseases were there in animal husbandry ... And here is the coronavirus. And now everything can be blamed on this vile infection, the decline in production, stagnation in the economy, sluggish fulfillment of the "bulk of plans" ...
    I know that people will still wake up and begin to slowly (and perhaps abruptly) drive out from the leadership those who cannot do anything so as not to make the sick - unhappier, the poor - poorer, the business - more ruinous, contented with it self-established incomes and equipped estates.

    It was necessary to live up to the time when every new year brings only troubles, adversities and sorrows. Congratulations on the fact that it is now "for the rest of my life."
  • depressant
    depressant April 14 2020 17: 34 New
    11
    I remember the phrase from the article - "there is a demand for oil in the world ..." No !!! There is a strong demand in the world for decent, people-centered leaders.
  • Azazelo
    Azazelo April 14 2020 17: 36 New
    +3
    really all the same decided .... the main thing is how the mess begins to no longer show mercy to anyone ...
  • Ivan Kolodin
    Ivan Kolodin April 14 2020 17: 38 New
    +8
    I’ll probably tell you a terrible secret, but without a pandemic, the country's economy stagnated more and more every year and its support was provided by oil prices that had been in the corridor 50-60 for a long time, but this was not enough, and then 2020 struck , I’ll express the wrong seditious thought, but partly the pandemic gave a chance for the future to mediocre managers, so to speak, then there should be a breakthrough and everything is fine already, but then the epidemic came and the Department of State collapsed, so sorry comrades, but force majeure so we tighten the belts and with de suffer another ten years ...
    Here is such a sad prospect ...
  • Azazelo
    Azazelo April 14 2020 17: 39 New
    -5
    the first two comments that under this article that in the article about BMPs for the European theater of military operations are repeated word for word ... that's the question of what kind of nits with the nicknames "Kronos" and "Teberii" are waging an information war here ....
  • iouris
    iouris April 14 2020 17: 45 New
    0
    There is an opinion that the economic structure is being destroyed. No one is ready, and we are ahead of the rest.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 14 2020 17: 48 New
    +3
    In a country where after the outbreak
    masks and antiseptics disappear in all pharmacies; any crisis will hurt the economy.
    1. iouris
      iouris April 14 2020 22: 36 New
      +1
      I have the impression that the economy is in crisis. He has nowhere to roam.
  • Quat
    Quat April 14 2020 17: 51 New
    -7
    Unfortunately, the leadership of the country does not have any coherent anti-crisis program. This is evidenced by the statements of the head of state and the actions of regional leaders on the ground.


    Here the problem of the mentality of the Russian people looms.
    Instead of coming together to come up with solutions and propose them to the government, the Russians criticize the government as if it were good.
    The government from criticism is even more depressed and panic, and everything goes through the ass.
    Russia needs ideological people who are ready to implement projects, and not tons of useless critics and haters.
    Any child who has just learned to speak can criticize, a lot of minds are not needed, but a child will not be able to come up with and implement a project, as well as haters of criticism.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos April 14 2020 18: 39 New
      +4
      There are a lot of people offering options, but the government, as usual, goes the worst way
      1. Irokez
        Irokez April 14 2020 18: 54 New
        -6
        Not. Not this way.
        They don’t please everyone and follow the path of lesser evil before the greater, but the lesser evil is also evil, and therefore it needs to be overcome and overcome. All tips are similar to those in the fable of Cygnus, Cancer and Pike.
      2. Quat
        Quat April 14 2020 20: 12 New
        -4
        Quote: Kronos
        There are a lot of people offering options, but the government, as usual, goes the worst way

        Abstract options, amorphous ideas ...
        I see a lot of abstract ideas.
        They say that you need to become a self-sufficient state, a good idea, but you need to calculate every step of implementation, and no one takes it, there is no group of people who will calculate the program for the transition from import of a dependent state to a self-sufficient.
        If all patriotism ends with criticism and abstract ideas, what is the use of this?
        1. Kronos
          Kronos April 14 2020 21: 45 New
          +1
          This is not about that, for example, the fight against the virus is a set of measures that countries have taken to reduce the infection from declaring an emergency to financial assistance to ordinary people. What has the Russian government done from this?
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    3. Irokez
      Irokez April 14 2020 18: 55 New
      -4
      You said everything clearly.
    4. Aag
      Aag April 14 2020 21: 54 New
      0
      Any child: let's fly to the moon! You can offer this to the Government. Will it help?
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 April 14 2020 17: 51 New
    +7
    From a monologue 5 years ago:
    "Previously, Russia will sell something for $ 1, this is at the rate of 30 rubles. And now $ 1 is 45 rubles. That's it, the budget is full."
    I have nothing to add to the words of the Dear Employer.
  • Sasha Minakov
    Sasha Minakov April 14 2020 18: 10 New
    -3
    Oh, it will begin now, or rather it has already begun :-) Only in Russia there are devastating consequences. Guard! ( Not really).
  • Klingon
    Klingon April 14 2020 18: 24 New
    +4
    Quote: Teberii
    Everything now depends on the time how long the isolation is, the longer the worse. It concerns not only us but the whole world.

    Russia, as usual, is a step behind, if quarantine is partially canceled in Austria, they intend to weaken it from Germany on the 20th, then in Russia they go to extremes like in France, but the French had a difficult situation from the very beginning, and here? in Germany, you can freeze loan payments, for example, without consequences and without raising the% rate. (And so loans at low 1,2-4,5% per annum) In the Russian Federation, bankers are greedy, and for atrocious 35% they will also tear off the last skin from those with whom there is already nothing to rip off. This is how the state takes care of its citizens.
  • faterdom
    faterdom April 14 2020 20: 22 New
    +1
    We survive.
    But we will draw conclusions about everything and everyone.
    We are trained, I still remember how we delayed the allowance for 3-4 months, which was also rapidly depreciating over these months, and you - be kind to the service, 12 hours a day, or even on a "business trip" for several months. Survived.
    It is a pity for the generation that was born after the USSR, they grew up in a frenzied conviction, like a "factory of stars", that someone should provide them with a "positive", that there are new iPhones and foreign holidays ahead, that they deserve it, they believe in some strange the conviction that "they pay taxes", "we are in power here" and "must be brought down from this country" ...
    Here for them - bloggers, fitness trainers, which some kind of "take me, scum!" must carry somewhere ... For them, the collapse of the worldview and cultural, and material at the same time - will have to change or disappear.
    And we, the USSR, will survive - not the first time.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos April 14 2020 21: 47 New
      +1
      In general, yes they deserve it, not only they, but all the inhabitants of the country
    2. awdrgy
      awdrgy April 14 2020 22: 13 New
      -1
      I completely agree with you, not in the first. By the way, the gudgeon began to take the big one with caviar, for the taranka (it is a merger), but for the tench it’s still cold with us, but I think it will start to take by the end of the month. And I think it’s decent money, but it will depend on when they come up with a medicine If in the summer, they will give little, and if in the autumn, then a lot
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    6. Trigger-Happy
      Trigger-Happy April 15 2020 13: 17 New
      -2
      Oh, he floods, another militant pensioner surfaced, at the factories of the salary, they simply stopped paying only with the difference that there was still no mat. security (boots with a hat were not given out to you). You, SSSRovtsy, first brought the country to bankruptcy and then ruined it to x .... m, I do not mean you personally, but your generation. And now all the same SSSRovtsy are stealing what they did not steal and are creating a "factory of stars", so whoever would bellow. Yes, by the way, I caught the late scoop well and I can draw conclusions from my experience of what I saw, not the generation of pepsi.
  • skobars
    skobars April 14 2020 22: 02 New
    -2
    It’s not really a virus, but the actions of the government of Medvedev that led us to this. Over the past year, it reported to us what high achievements in industry we have achieved. But all this was somehow connected with the oil industry. (Construction of pipelines, tankers, etc.) But then the oil collapsed and we were in the railway as always. Maybe this time a miracle will happen with the new government and we will really be able to develop all sectors as it was in the USSR.
  • Maxwrx
    Maxwrx April 14 2020 22: 45 New
    +1
    I can write as an employer. I have a relatively small metalworking industry. Work permits were received as a particularly important production. The work is about 5 times less than last year, and the costs are constant. No concessions from the landlord, only a deferment from the tax (that is, everything will have to be paid, but then), no help is expected from the state, it is impossible to take a loan. The question is what to do with people? Shorten the work schedule, cut zp etc. The state in its refusal to introduce emergency situations, its indecision, uncertainty, inconsistency only harms the economy as a whole. I always poorly assessed how the state works for us. organs and the main fish that rots from the head, but here they showed everything they can do. My relative is already sick. I estimate the coronavirus will last until the beginning of September, and another year to restore the economy. It will take about 20 years to return to the standard of living before the start of 5 years

    ps In the medium to long term for the business, the current situation is even beneficial for me (I won’t go into details), but for 95% of people it will end sadly and even tragically.

    Of the things people should know! The government over the past month: recently bought a Venezuelan oil company from Rosneft for about 300 billion rubles (the asset is completely dead, Rosneft needs to write off losses), bought a savings bank for 2,1 trillion, and again the Central Bank will keep it to write off the losses. Those. over the past month, the government simply wrote off 300 billion rubles to the pipe!
    1. Dikson
      Dikson April 15 2020 04: 48 New
      0
      This guys just give a shift, get ready to move home and get a bonus ..
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 15 2020 11: 47 New
      -1
      Enough to come up with it - Rosneft's Venezuelan assets were transferred to a new company Roszarubezhneft providing it with a capitalization of 320 billion rubles, there are no dead assets there and there will be no production going on only by the new company not under sanctions. Bought Sberbank 1800 billion remained in the NWF - 300 billion went to the additional capitalization of Sberbank itself. The Central Bank of the ZVR has it with these means and operates.
  • dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 14 2020 23: 59 New
    0
    To write that a simple hard worker has savings of a million or two rubles, can only be completely lost his mind. The accumulations of the Soviet period turned to dust overnight, with collapsed Soviet borders and defaults. Only a bandit could save up for his entire life in the 90-2000 years. Carried to the grave, and "passed" the egg-capsule to the heir. To measure the well-being of millions of Russians by the appearance of Kalinin Street in Moscow, or dachas near Moscow .... I am not expressing displeasure, but complete contempt for the lies set forth in the article.
    1. awdrgy
      awdrgy April 15 2020 08: 51 New
      +1
      Yes, I don’t have two comrades, one welder, another electrician, and on guard, they earn some money two by one. One piggy bank (he already had one somewhere) and he also sold the car for 500 rubles and which was the welder-apartment (inherited) and all the time on business trips (he makes good money) And he worked as a turner for another 10 years, now the master (the head of the workshop) doesn’t have a private sharazhka there, too, but it’s probably not relevant yet he’s not a hard worker anymore. He also works as a printer ( goes to Moscow 5 2) he rents an apartment with the guys in the same place. He also has a second child (he already took the first one) to save for an apartment
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 15 2020 11: 55 New
      -1
      You know why they turned into dust with the collapsed USSR - because the ruble in the USSR was isolated from all world currencies and the world market, and the leadership itself for it invented courses in relation to other currencies and abroad, our rubles did not represent anything at all - therefore the country needed currency in the air and chasing after her like scalded.
  • dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 15 2020 00: 01 New
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    Quote: MaxWRX
    I can write as an employer. I have a relatively small metalworking industry. Work permits were received as a particularly important production. The work is about 5 times less than last year, and the costs are constant. No concessions from the landlord, only a deferment from the tax (that is, everything will have to be paid, but then), no help is expected from the state, it is impossible to take a loan. The question is what to do with people? Shorten the work schedule, cut zp etc. The state in its refusal to introduce emergency situations, its indecision, uncertainty, inconsistency only harms the economy as a whole. I always poorly assessed how the state works for us. organs and the main fish that rots from the head, but here they showed everything they can do. My relative is already sick. I estimate the coronavirus will last until the beginning of September, and another year to restore the economy. It will take about 20 years to return to the standard of living before the start of 5 years

    ps In the medium to long term for the business, the current situation is even beneficial for me (I won’t go into details), but for 95% of people it will end sadly and even tragically.

    Of the things people should know! The government over the past month: recently bought a Venezuelan oil company from Rosneft for about 300 billion rubles (the asset is completely dead, Rosneft needs to write off losses), bought a savings bank for 2,1 trillion, and again the Central Bank will keep it to write off the losses. Those. over the past month, the government simply wrote off 300 billion rubles to the pipe!

    To a fool who does not understand that losses are such a thing that you can’t buy not only a fallen oil company, but a burnt match.
    Thoughtfully picking his nose and writing this nonsense.
    The government does not declare an emergency regime, thus preventing the layoffs of workers - this is the reason for your crap in the text. Nothing, you will recover. Only with us you are allowed to have ANY profit without using a non-linear tax scale. accustomed to tearing 200-400% of profit from the people. Have to share. No other way. Are you also a citizen of Russia, or ,,, ?? Your share should also lie on you.
    1. awdrgy
      awdrgy April 15 2020 09: 09 New
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      I agree it was necessary to lay straws earlier. Even stupidly, according to demographic statistics (even according to official ones), already in 2007 it was clear that in the 20s there will be "seams" The main thing is that? yes, pickles (moonshine or wine, again, as anyone)) And whoever has his own enterprise, it was generally easy to do all this We have now taken a decade or even more
  • Dikson
    Dikson April 15 2020 04: 46 New
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    Well, they have already offered to introduce food cards .. For the time being for the dependents .. and there it will be seen .. We are going in the right direction, comrades!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 15 2020 11: 58 New
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      They have already replied to this proposal that they will not be introduced as there is no need.
  • dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 15 2020 11: 05 New
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    Quote: Dikson
    Well, they have already offered to introduce food cards .. For the time being for the dependents .. and there it will be seen .. We are going in the right direction, comrades!

    It’s time to shoot such alarmists. Give him a card. Open the refrigerator, bastard. Enough for a week without going to the store.
    1. Trigger-Happy
      Trigger-Happy April 15 2020 12: 41 New
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      Quote: dubovitskiy.1947
      It’s time to shoot such alarmists.

      self-isolate from here somewhere, you are in the main risk group! Only fill the keyboard with pre-coffee, enough nonsense to carry, it’s already nauseous without you !!!!!!!
  • dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 15 2020 11: 08 New
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    Quote: malyvalv
    30% have no idea that they are infected. Therefore, everything must be masked.
    China and Korea have long been proven to everyone about masks. Well, except for the most stupid of course.

    China has proven not to wear masks. Threat to shoot violators. Two weeks at home, and no epidemic. The tougher the penalties, the faster the freedom and health.
  • dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 15 2020 11: 45 New
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    Quote: awdrgy
    Yes, I don’t have two comrades, one welder, another electrician, and on guard, they earn some money two by one. One piggy bank (he already had one somewhere) and he also sold the car for 500 rubles and which was the welder-apartment (inherited) and all the time on business trips (he makes good money) And he worked as a turner for another 10 years, now the master (the head of the workshop) doesn’t have a private sharazhka there, too, but it’s probably not relevant yet he’s not a hard worker anymore. He also works as a printer ( goes to Moscow 5 2) he rents an apartment with the guys in the same place. He also has a second child (he already took the first one) to save for an apartment

    Are we talking about hundreds of thousands of simple laborers with such contributions, or about two idiots living on a money bag, but without having the simplest? Science for them and others. If the head on the shoulders, would arrange life not in the capitals, but away. And the coronovirus will not catch, and cheaper at home. Everyone is clinging to these megacities, boobies, they don’t know that the whole world has been flowing along the outskirts of these concrete jungles for decades. We were tourists in Sweden, back in 1981. There already then the guide spoke. that they live in the capital with all kinds of crap. And self-respecting people have their own homes away. As she said, living in the capital is not a tsimus. Tsimus- have a house in nature.
  • Trigger-Happy
    Trigger-Happy April 15 2020 12: 33 New
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    Quote: the most important
    Why was air communication with other countries until the last days?

    I may surprise you, but business jets both flew and fly now in Paris and London .....
  • Trigger-Happy
    Trigger-Happy April 15 2020 13: 20 New
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    Quote: MaxWRX
    In the medium to long term for the business, the current situation is even beneficial for me (I will not go into details),

    if not a secret, will there be a demand for fences?
  • faterdom
    faterdom April 15 2020 13: 31 New
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    Quote: Kronos
    In general, yes they deserve it, not only they, but all the inhabitants of the country

    There is a very big difference between those who "deserve" and those who will actually suffer. These are not synonyms - for sure!
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 16 2020 13: 40 New
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    the country's economy is destroyed by power ... and the virus only kills it ...
  • dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 17 2020 18: 47 New
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    Quote: Vadim237
    You know why they turned into dust with the collapsed USSR - because the ruble in the USSR was isolated from all world currencies and the world market, and the leadership itself for it invented courses in relation to other currencies and abroad, our rubles did not represent anything at all - therefore the country needed currency in the air and chasing after her like scalded.

    I have been talking about this for many years, and I write on various resources. Separated is poorly said. CANNED. Not only allowing domestic competition with foreign goods, which would undoubtedly raise our products to a level that would also exclude competition INSIDE the country.
    Our factory, where I worked as a designer at SKB, made 1,5 million lamps for miners. Ukraine, Kharkov "Miner's Light" - inside Ukraine. The luminaires were distinguished by their headlight, and our luminaire cannot be charged at the Ukrainian charging station. And vice versa. Were we competitors? They are 200 thousand, and only for Donbass, and we are for the rest of the Union. Was the auto industry competing? No. And so in everything. The supply of products is strictly linked to the buyer. I could not refuse, buy something else, better, I could not. Why the hell to puzzle over the economy of a car engine if gas was cheaper than soda? Gas cost 4 kopecks per cubic meter. What the hell to drive him to Krasnoyarsk, you need a pipe, thousands of kilometers, and the cost recovery at such a price for gas is 500 years. Therefore, the CMEA used gas, and almost throughout the entire territory, and we ... the Germans are in chocolate, and we ...
  • dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 17 2020 19: 04 New
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    Quote: Trigger-Happy
    Quote: dubovitskiy.1947
    It’s time to shoot such alarmists.

    self-isolate from here somewhere, you are in the main risk group! Only fill the keyboard with pre-coffee, enough nonsense to carry, it’s already nauseous without you !!!!!!!

    Sick? This is a sign of pregnancy. This is what the life-giving virus does.