There was a third week of self-isolation, questions did not decrease ...

In the third week of self-isolation, which should prevent the spread of coronavirus in our country, a record was reached in the number of detected infections. Official statistics show that the increase in the number of cases per day amounted to more than 2,5 thousand people. And again, the main part is Moscow and the Moscow region.

At the same time, over the past two weeks, the authorities have not been able to decide what kind of regime is in effect in the country: quarantine, voluntary self-isolation or non-voluntary self-isolation. On the one hand, federal channels report voluntary compliance with the self-isolation regime, call for citizens to be conscious, on the other hand they talk about exit by QR code or SMS pass, about fines issued by law enforcement agencies, about blocked roads in some regions for nonresidents.

It is clear that, without exception, everyone will not be conscious by definition. But then what kind of measures were observed before that. Neither fish nor meat ...

When people really should have been sitting at home, measures in the form of fines and special passes for exits were not reported. A considerable percentage of those who, among the hundreds of thousands who returned from abroad, decided not to limit themselves to square meters of their living space, but to "ride around the city, region and country", now makes itself felt.

Against such a background, completely strange messages appear. So, in the Voronezh region, they told about the death of a patient whose condolences to the family were expressed by the governor of the region. The site of the regional administration appeared material under the following heading: “The Governor expressed his condolences to the relatives of the patient whose death occurred, presumably, from coronavirus. "

And this is a statement by the governor of the region, Alexander Gusev:

Beloved fellow countrymen, the sad news came: in Voronezh, the first death happened, probablydue to coronavirus.

The fact that condolences are expressed to relatives is a normal human gesture. But the words “presumably” and “probably” do not at all mean that death definitely came from COVID-19. And if there is no final data, then why “drive the horses” and talk about the “probable first case of death from a coronavirus”? Usually the authorities blame the publication of unconfirmed media reports, but here the material was published on the official website of the regional government. Why was it impossible to wait for official confirmation from the doctors and then talk about unambiguous statistics?

Today, the President of Russia announced that the situation with coronavirus in Russia "is not changing for the better."

President Vladimir Putin:

The number of sick people is increasing, and more and more cases of it is a severe course of the disease.

In fact, it would be difficult to expect a 100% victory over the coronavirus, when even officials cannot really explain to citizens what the sanitary regime is in any given region. Why, when walking a dog within a radius of 100 m from the house, when traveling in a taxi or on a bus, when walking down the street with a QR code or a certificate from the place of work, nothing is said about the risk of infection, and in other cases, pictures are drawn that are close to apocalyptic ? Why are the “stars” and individual politicians, urging “to stay home”, after the call, often post on Instagram their own photos in which they are not at home ...

All this looks like strange half measures, after which the "guilty people" can be written down as the main culprits. And the majority of people ... they are conscious, but at the same time they just want specific explanations:

when to go to work;

if you don’t go out, then who, when and to what extent will provide for the family;

why if some observe self-isolation, then others calmly walk around the streets;

why in grocery hypermarkets the risk of infection is "lower" (because they are open) than in a small shop selling useful trifles (since it is closed);

and the vaccine will definitely be invented in the near future;

and if the virus also returns after the "first" pandemic ... again home? ..

Comments

[Ryaruav]

It seems that now Russia will have problems not only with coronavirus, but also in the economy

[Deniska999]

It was necessary to quarantine Moscow in mid-March and let Muscovites go on vacation to their small homelands. I judge by my region: the majority of infected people came into contact with Moscow residents. Yes, and communication with foreign countries had to be closed earlier.

[Spambox]

At all times there are people who sow discord and discord. And they are divided into friends and foes. Especially during test times. We are all in 1 boat.

[Phil77]

Quote: Spambox

Especially during test times. We are all in 1 boat.

You're right! But unfortunately, it hasn’t reached everyone yet. We are waiting ....

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

VO has recently been very reminiscent of EM.

[Alf]

Quote: Spambox

We are all in 1 boat.

Yes, yes .. "no need to rock the boat." Here is just one problem - passengers enjoy life, and rowers breathe every other time.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

What do you want? Capitalism. Someone enjoys life, someone rowing. Tell me a country where not so. It has always been so. It’s just that somewhere the rowers feel a little more comfortable, but somewhere it’s completely rotten. It seems to me the middle. We don’t rave about fats, but we don’t swell with hunger.

[Alf]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

It seems to me the middle. We don’t rave about fats, but we don’t swell with hunger.

Only the scale pointer is getting closer to one edge.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Is it not because you are sitting on the Internet, and not in the Government of the Russian Federation))

[210ox]

Here we are all in the same boat, I disagree. With our rabid feudalism, this cannot be by definition. Here's an example. Cars are now in almost all families. But the office can go to work by personal transport. Everyone else is on a crowded service bus, sneezing and coughing. Stupidly they did not issue a pass for personal transport. This is a small example of "we are all in the same boat". If you take a higher contrast, it will be even more noticeable.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

How difficult it is to live .... Muscovites, it has become ... You have spread it, you know, infection throughout the country, and now you don’t get any passes. Yes, gentlemen, the capital's inhabitants in Moscow had to be closed and then the Moscow Ring Road should not be let out until you are cured.
From my city to Moscow, 500 km, so you got here, isolation is pinned. Already, people began to die with us, those who were in contact with Moscow ... Odea rubbish from you all over the country.
Previously, Moscow was perceived as the capital, as the heart of the country, but now many people perceive it as a hotbed of abomination and permissiveness.
That’s why I don’t feel sorry for you either personally or your countrymen. Excuse me for frankness.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

How difficult it is to live .... Muscovites, it has become ... You have spread it, you know, infection throughout the country, and now you don’t get any passes. Yes, gentlemen, the capital's inhabitants in Moscow had to be closed and then the Moscow Ring Road should not be let out until you are cured.
From my city to Moscow, 500 km, so you got here, isolation is pinned. Already, people began to die with us, those who were in contact with Moscow ... Odea rubbish from you all over the country.
Previously, Moscow was perceived as the capital, as the heart of the country, but now many people perceive it as a hotbed of abomination and permissiveness.
That’s why I don’t feel sorry for you either personally or your countrymen. Excuse me for frankness.

Well, for example, Mr. Putin, how do you feel sorry for him? Well, or is there Shoigu with Lavrov?

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Can't live without Putin?

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

Can't live without Putin?

I can do that. And yet, I am interested in your answer. Answer please.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

To the president or ministers the concept of pity is not applicable in my opinion. No, it’s not a pity.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

To the president or ministers the concept of pity is not applicable in my opinion. No, it’s not a pity.

Thanks for the answer. At least you are consistent, in your dislike of all the inhabitants of Moscow. Consistent, but not logical. Because it’s not ordinary Muscovites who pass laws and issue decrees, which then, in your words

Previously, Moscow was perceived as the capital, as the heart of the country, and now it is perceived by many as a breeding ground for abomination and permissiveness.

It is unlikely that this is the fault of some ordinary employee of the Moscow metro or a nurse from a Moscow hospital or scientist. employee of the Timiryazev Academy.

PS The guilty person always has a first and last name. And declaring all at once guilty, it turns out that even children (they are also Muscovites), this is a very strange position. Just, you probably got a little excited.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Well, now you have an honest, honest answer. I would like to know the name of the guilty.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

Well, now you have an honest, honest answer. I would like to know the name of the guilty.

Guilty of specifically what? What action or events? Please clarify. (if a tap is flowing at my place, then I am guilty, well, a little wife, that is cutting me weakly ).

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

You have a black line highlighted in a small segment.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

You have a black line highlighted in a small segment.

Well, if about this

Previously, Moscow was perceived as the capital, as the heart of the country, and now it is perceived by many as a breeding ground for abomination and permissiveness.

So the answer is simple. We start of course with the general, and get to the details:
Abomination and permissiveness is a consequence of such a structure of the state system. It is logical that permissiveness must be suppressed by the state. by car, right? Well, an abomination logically follows from permissiveness. But hardly ordinary residents of the capital can afford permissiveness, right? Well, on our site, as you know, there is Sylvester - a Moscow doctor. It is unlikely that you attribute to him permissiveness. Where does the doctor come from?
Thus, it is generally the fault of the state system. I think you do not need examples of permissiveness, they are already well-known to everyone.
But after all, is someone leading the system of the state (which does not want to stop permissiveness)? Does someone form a team of top managers (who, in turn, build their own clans and their own verticals), push the necessary laws (including those that form permissiveness)? It distributes financial flows to the right areas and hands.
For the past 20 years, Mr. Putin has been at the head of this vertical. Here is your expected last name.
Do I think he is guilty alone? No, of course, not one. But for the vertical of power, which has been trumpeted for so many years, and which, as it turned out

nursery of abomination and permissiveness.

he is the first to answer. He stands at the top of this vertical, and there is always more demand from the head than from the henchmen.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

Quote: Leshy1975

So the answer is simple.

The answer, in my opinion, is not very simple, but the banal one-sided simplification of the destruction process that you listed that began long before Putin. It seems to me the end of the 80s and the beginning of the 90s is the time when the old, Soviet values ​​were dumped (together with the Soviet Union), and somehow they did not bother to invent new values, although they didn’t bother, but many of these new values with soul turns.
The state system is certainly to blame, no doubt. But the vertical of the state is people, many of whom were brought up and grew up just during the mess of the last years of the USSR and the chaos of the 90s. Where can I get others, good, honest and with the right values?
It is customary to scold Putin for what it is worth, that he fucked up everything, stole everything, destroyed the country, enriched his friends, etc. And I remember 2000. The country is there or not, poverty, war, devastation. No working enterprises, no pensions, nothing. I compare that time with 2020. My dear mother, but I almost don't even believe that once there were the fucking 90s. So much today's Russia differs from that incomprehensible impoverished country. Strange as it may seem, Putin and his vertical are also "to blame" for this, in my opinion. For all the shortcomings of the current president and the system he created in general, his rule is a huge boon for the overwhelming majority of people in general.

Not for the sake of a further dispute with you. I know that you are a staunch supporter of GDP and I am not going to persuade. Just think at your leisure on the following questions:
1) You compare the darkest years in the modern history of the country and the times when money rain poured on the country, with sky-high oil prices.
And how high prices ended - the population began to get poorer, and this has been going on for quite some time.
2) Wisdom and leadership abilities are manifested in a crisis, and not during free money.
3) The country should develop, and not stagnate or roll back.
4) If you are not able to provide development and crisis management - leave.
5) The fact that GDP is not the worst (in the beginning it was, so for sure), this is not at all the reason for leading the country for life. Surely there is much better. But the fact that he created a system in which only Putin should be in power is precisely his fault.
6) Well, and most importantly - I propose to return to the question of the 90s, this fall. I think we will have something to say to each other.

PS Good luck to you.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Leshy1975

I know that you are a staunch supporter of GDP and I am not going to persuade.

Well, you know everything about a person, but whose particular supporter are you? Curious...

[Vadim237]

In 2024, Putin will retire - he will put himself in place of Mishustin or whatever a colonel from the GRU is 45 years old, the state will allocate an estate near Moscow, or where Putin himself will give him a pension of a million rubles or more, he will write memoirs such as "20 years of Russian rule" which will be dispersed around the world in tens of millions of copies, politicians and journalists from all over the world will come to him - he will be in the spotlight even outside the government and politics for a long time. And don't worry, everything will be.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Leshy1975

You know, there is Sylvester - a Moscow doctor.

He wrote that he was a pensioner, and you write that the doctor (apparently acting), where is the truth?

[Den717]

Quote: Leshy1975

For the past 20 years, Mr. Putin has been at the head of this vertical. Here is your expected last name.

The desire to eat sweetly and dominate one's own kind is inherent from the very beginning. They say God. Here is your second expected last name. We alone are not in business, poor lambs! Moscow doctors and policemen, nurses and bank employees, small business owners and officials of all stripes - they are all of us. Which of us behaves in life, you do not know. Therefore, I would not cite myself, or Sylvester, or Leshy as an example. But if Muscovites "beat" the requests of the same Putin, doctors, and all others from the TV, asking to stay at home, then you will receive an answer from outside the Moscow Ring Road. Yes, you are fucking crazy, and you are furious with fat collected from the country. I do not like to go to work on the bus, go on foot with a gas mask on your nose. You are 10% of the country's population and more than half of the entire infection, and from under you it spreads throughout the country. And you are all waiting for Putin to blow each of you from the street by the collar to your apartments.

Quote: Leshy1975

the vertical of power, which has been trumpeted for so many years, and which, as it turned out
nursery of abomination and permissiveness.

This vertical gives you food and drink. Although I partly agree that she is a hotbed of permissiveness. First of all, it allowed the formation of a metropolis, fattening on a poor country. To disperse all registrations of enterprises according to the places of their production activity and taxes according to the places of residence of those who pay them, this is the first thing that would have to be done. And also a couple of regiments of "crazy traffic cops" from Komi and Buryatia, so that they dispersed your thugs in the parking lots. That would be the case.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Den717

Quote: Leshy1975

For the past 20 years, Mr. Putin has been at the head of this vertical. Here is your expected last name.

The desire to eat sweetly and dominate one's own kind is inherent from the very beginning. They say God. Here is your second expected last name. We alone are not in business, poor lambs! Moscow doctors and policemen, nurses and bank employees, small business owners and officials of all stripes - they are all of us. Which of us behaves in life, you do not know. Therefore, I would not cite myself, or Sylvester, or Leshy as an example. But if Muscovites "beat" the requests of the same Putin, doctors, and all others from the TV, asking to stay at home, then you will receive an answer from outside the Moscow Ring Road. Yes, you are fucking crazy, and you are furious with fat collected from the country. I do not like to go to work on the bus, go on foot with a gas mask on your nose. You are 10% of the country's population and more than half of the entire infection, and from under you it spreads throughout the country. And you are all waiting for Putin to blow each of you from the street by the collar to your apartments.

Quote: Leshy1975

the vertical of power, which has been trumpeted for so many years, and which, as it turned out
nursery of abomination and permissiveness.

This vertical gives you food and drink. Although I partly agree that she is a hotbed of permissiveness. First of all, it allowed the formation of a metropolis, fattening on a poor country. To disperse all registrations of enterprises according to the places of their production activity and taxes according to the places of residence of those who pay them, this is the first thing that would have to be done. And also a couple of regiments of "crazy traffic cops" from Komi and Buryatia, so that they dispersed your thugs in the parking lots. That would be the case.

I was born and now live, on the Voronezh land. And you again bring everyone into a common pile. Hence the confusion is obtained.

[Den717]

Quote: Leshy1975

And you again bring everyone into a common pile. Hence the confusion is obtained.

Those my thoughts that concern the offended by the authorities and all other Muscovites, you do not take personally, as a non-Muscovite. But as for the specific names of the perpetrators, you dump all the bigwigs into one heap. All around you GDP is to blame. And this vertical really feeds you (and us, and me, if you will) and gives water to it. Apparently you have forgotten the 80s and 90s. This is probably a common disease, to think that all the helmsmen are exclusively aliens. And Putin and everyone else that makes up this vertical. But they are all exactly the same as we are, only more energetic. Look at their biographies, they are all ours, well, some were "lucky" with their parents - dad-mom from the professors or the party nomenclature. But many of them are from a simple plow. It’s not that they are like us today, but that we are like them. And if we happen to grow "up the career ladder", we for the most part will same... And those who have not grown will be more fortunate to envy and dislike. We all think and imagine the rules of life in about the same way, and each of us in our souls has a mixture of the divine with the devil. And yes, we are in a common heap, ours, Russian. The Germans are in their own, but already different, heap, and carry out the command to "stay at home" more pedantic than we do. And so they differ from us ... including in the results.

[Beringovsky]

Den717
All of you around the GDP is to blame. And this vertical of you (and us, and me, if you want) really feeds and watered

It can feed you personally. We are not.
Or is this vertical sowing bread and producing oil?
This vertical is not able to create anything but can only subtract and divide.

. But they are all exactly the same as us

Not like that. We do not plunder the budget and do not lie on the TV screen.

And if we happen to grow "up the career ladder", we for the most part will same

Do not judge others by yourself.
And for those who will suchThere should be a normal electoral system and independent media. To remove such.

[Den717]

Quote: Beringovsky

Not like that. We do not plunder the budget and do not lie on the TV screen.

Well, of course, you are holier than the Pope and smarter than the whole government. But you don’t lie on TV, because as honest !!! But it’s simpler - they are not allowed on TV or on the budget, that’s all the honor and intelligence and conscience and so on .. And most importantly, nobody here will tell the truth about themselves. Writing slogans is easier than actually engaging in managerial work.
The vertical does not feed you. What would you do without the vertical ?! Have you seen how oil is extracted? Maybe, in your imagination, it flows to itself, and the pomburs by themselves, without commands and orders, turn the pipes. Greater delirium, excuse me, is impossible to imagine. Remember how pensions and salaries were paid without a "vertical" in the 90s. Without a vertical, only anarchists gather in circles, but there is not a single state without a “vertical”.

Quote: Beringovsky

This vertical is not able to create anything

The vertical should not create anything, it must create the conditions so that any creation is possible. You probably skipped social studies at school ...

[Beringovsky]

Have you seen how oil is extracted? Maybe in your opinion it flows to itself, and the pombs themselves rotate pipes without commands and orders. Sorry, it’s not possible to imagine more delirium.

Yeah. Searched, exploited and repaired. From Chukotka to Surgut, Wartovsk and Yamburg.
Have you seen?
More questions on oil will be?

The vertical should not create anything, it must create the conditions so that any creation is possible.

Anyway creation and African kings provide.

You probably skipped social studies at school ..

Alas, and not only at school ...

[Den717]

Quote: Beringovsky

Searched, exploited and repaired.

After that, you assert that the oil and gas industry in Russia is developing without a "vertical"? Did the return of the main assets that were slammed by the weakening of this "vertical" happen by itself? What then can you talk about? Are you an opposition fan?

Quote: Beringovsky

Alas, and not only at school ...

In technical universities, humanitarian subjects are not given due attention even today, so there is nothing surprising. Test without automatic evaluation, taking into account physical presence ... Judging by the search in the regions of Surgut and Yamburg, you are many years old. Along with oil and gas, experience and wisdom should have been added to your reserves, and only hatred for your country and childish self-confidence in infallibility remained. To each his own. But you are most likely a senior citizen .... though what am I talking about? Once my chief engineer used to say: "another piece of wood has been floating on the sea for a hundred years, but it still does not become a captain." Sorry, nothing personal ...

[RVAPatriot]

Let's put you at least the governor, after how many new car and apartment will you have ?? I’m sure quickly .. After all, faulting people is easy ... You will come to power and become the same, and you will prove to everyone that this is right !!!!

[RVAPatriot]

This vertical and should not sow and produce! Forgot how they survived under Yeltsin? Want to get back to this ?? Or already used, short human memory

[RVAPatriot]

I will add that these Putin stretched the country, or forgot it like in 2000. How they treated our country, how sad everything was ... And "everything is lost" has always been and is ... Freeloaders

[Overlock]

Quote: Leshy1975

Well, for example, Mr. Putin, how do you feel sorry for him? Well, or is there Shoigu with Lavrov?

silent

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

That’s why I don’t feel sorry for you either personally or your countrymen. Excuse me for frankness.

no answer

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

I went out for a smoke.

[Revival]

Or maybe those who did not close the communication with Europe "for their own" are to blame for this spread.
Who should have made such a decision on time?
Plumber from Saransk or someone else?

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Probably so. But no less blame lies with citizens who ignored warnings about the danger of infection. After all, they warned, sent, do not fly abroad, take care of yourself and others. Well, where are we? We are the smartest, but in the Kremlin they want to limit our rights .... Well, right?
And the first patients appeared, so it was necessary to close Moscow to hell until it became ill.

[NKT]

It was necessary to take all flights arriving from abroad by bus to prepared camps and holiday homes in quarantine, and not send them to "sit" at home. Here are many and "sat" ....

[Revival]

What does it mean maybe so!
Who then was fined, imprisoned, since this was allowed because of the untimely closure of the border, that’s all, people died, the economy suffered damage. Not, since people are being fined like irresponsibility, then those who negligently didn’t close the borders on time (communication) need consequences.
Where? Hypocrisy!? Yes.

[Jager]

But haven't they returned back to their hinterland who work in Moscow? There are not so many Muscovites in the capital.

[Vadim237]

It is time to actively engage in job creation in the regions so that no one else would go to Moscow.

[boni592807]

Watching WHO ?!
But, if at least somehow they tracked the emergence and who were "brought" of the virus, then these are "travelers" in Europe. Even in the midst of the EPIDEMIC they exploded and not only. There was a time when there were only 45 cases, 41 were "imported" (91%) flying THROUGH MOSCOW !!! The effect of the main transport hub and the capital, made its negative contribution. The rest are foreigners. Now up to 50% are already infected along the chain from the intruders and runners from the quarantine. See TV.
It was necessary to let all those arriving from the ZONE of infection, pass through quarantine, patients to hospitals, with "implicit" signs, a separate "PionEr" camp, under sensitive and vigilant control. And runners from quarantine, THERE, tolerant, 9 gr. SALTS and quarantine period. Without looking at faces and positions. The chain of infection simply would not be !!! As self-isolation with a breakdown of the economy. The USSR decided this.
Facilities? Yes, we exported THEM (and NOT only) so much that it was possible to accommodate all those who arrived at the sanatoriums without loading on the state. budget. That sanatoriums with recreation facilities would support !!!
And stubborn ones who went during the epidemic - with further payment for services and consequences at their own expense. Gifts are NOT appreciated.
Now again our people are supposedly not "intelligible", but what do they see on TV, about stars and ..
. It has become a rule to make old men (pensioners) - they say "go everywhere, interfere".
That the younger ones are doing well, everything is CLEAR, there is a CONFINED clear plan of action, they will provide everyone with reasonable amounts of food and hygiene products, they will receive money (aka hunger), everyone has the opportunity to remotely pay for housing and communal services, etc. Learn ???
Do all old people reach the volunteers (in Russian - volunteers), do the old people have the FAITH that they won’t be WRAPPED, will NOT BE DISPOSED, if not more severely. How much of this, even from full-time social workers, was without a coronovirus. Yes, and the zealous, financially sound YOUTH was bought with buckwheat and toilet paper, for six months. And with scanty pensions PESIONAIRES, certainly everything will be outbid NOT FUNNY!!!
We need a clear, concise and communicated to all regarding policy and action algorithms. With duties and responsibilities. Based on wishes and directions, we can catch up with and overtake the United States through the virus. Russia IT Nezya, immediately and forever erase!
What can I say, for example, if during the period of self-isolation, "hardworking" repairmen appeared. They saw, groove and, in general, do NOT waste time. It does not give a damn that people who are responsible, FORCED to sit at home, from THEIR workdays, someone has a heart attack, someone has a psychological breakdown, and who already remembers Raskolnokov (In the novel "Crime and Punishment" FM Dostoevsky). For example, in the Moscow region. reduced the hours of repairmen for NOISY work (and if a smelly paint or a lacquer, what is SWEETER ???), but, anyway - EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE !!! And why not write in the law on silence, all work in apartment buildings, only by emergency rescue teams.
To the street: power-NOT, a dangerous virus. Get sick, get sick and die! Clear!
At home - "hardworking" repairman with ruthless and sometimes not always stopping repairs.
All this PROVINCES the law-abiding "self-isolating", observing the state of his family to the words of Raskolnikov: "Am I trembling or have the right !?"
Maybe it's time to ORGANIZE ?! Re-try does NOT wake up!

[Voyager]

Would you go with your hatred of Muscovites on a long and wonderful journey?
You might think that someone from Muscovites needs to ride for you for 500 km. So besides your own shuttles and no one. They themselves came in large numbers, but the nursery is Moscow. Cool hypocrisy, and most importantly, it’s convenient to look for a log in someone else’s eye, right?

[Reader 2013]

And who forbade you to drive a car

[dedusik]

Well, so to ride in a car and sit in it without leaving either the driver or passengers - this is another calico, ride, but only so

[Revival]

Moscow measures taken

[bk316]

Here we are all in the same boat, I do not agree.

This is for now. Just for now, everything that goes on is bullshit. Now, if the infrastructure collapses, it will not seem to anyone. What do you need a car if there is no gas, what do you need packs of bucks if there is no stupid thing in the city.
AGAIN ALL YOU ARE IN AND LIKE ALL AUTHORITY late.

So far, the elite has been discussing democratically whether or not to isolate visitors from Europe.
So far, the absolute majority of VO including authors from the administration wrote that coronavirus is a fake
While the government and the president listlessly gave out WISH
Several thousand infected arrived in the country and mainly in Moscow. Yes, not hundreds, but thousands, they just did not have symptoms and did not take analyzes.

While the people at VO discussed the legal aspects of self-isolation and rode well on barbecue.
While the security forces were giggling at all this.
So far, the government and the president were thinking about how to target inflation.
In Moscow and the country, the number of infected has grown to tens of thousands. Yes, not thousands, but tens of thousands, they just had no symptoms and they didn’t take any tests.

And again, until you discuss how to fence off Moscow and how not to vote for the new constitution and GDP. Again you don’t understand anything.
1. The whole virus has dispersed throughout the country. Fencing off Do not fencing off it already with you. It’s just that you didn’t have symptoms and you didn’t take any tests.
2. What the hell constitution in the fall You’re pensioners and not vyayuni as you write yourself. You should think how PERSONALLY YOU will survive until the fall.
3. If you are a resident of a big city, pray for power, you can hate it, but only it can save your life or, on the contrary, kill it.

Turn on the brain. Think how to save yourself, your loved ones and just those around you.
If you didn’t do it when the roasted cock pecks, but always, then you would have the right masks, there would be no unsecured and uninsured loans and YES MAY we have a different power .....

[DPN]

At all times there are people who sow discord and discord.

So they had to be isolated, and not put the country on the ears, this is a kind of saboteurs. They knew what they were doing.

[NordUral]

And just close the borders on the exit and filter, to the maximum, the entry. And it would not be necessary to put the country on the ears. And in general - do everything on time.

[Revival]

Here is the correct statement of the question!
Second, the consequences are severe: people have died, the economy is collapsing, therefore, it would be necessary for the consequences ..

[Tank hard]

Quote: NordUral

And just close the borders on the exit and filter, to the maximum, the entry. And it would not be necessary to put the country on the ears. And in general - do everything on time.

Literally at the very beginning, during the events in Wuhan, I watched a video where they conducted a survey of residents of the Russian Federation, as I understood basically Moscow and Peter. They were interested in whether it was worth closing the borders, most of those who were interviewed, indignantly said that the world was free and that the border should never be closed. I’m just wondering if we have such citizens, is Putin also to blame?

[NordUral]

These citizens are also different. Some well-fed offspring of thieving parents, others were led to reduced prices, otherwise they would never have gone to these resorts. But all of them are not patriots, just selfish, and even not able to calculate the consequences for themselves and others.
And the guarantor has power and dozens of forecasting institutions. And his duty to calculate everything forward. So the guilt of power is obvious.

[Tank hard]

Quote: NordUral

These citizens are also different. Some well-fed offspring of thieving parents, others were led to reduced prices, otherwise they would never have gone to these resorts. But all of them are not patriots, just selfish, and even not able to calculate the consequences for themselves and others.

Eugene, my wife and I had already bought a tour to Vietnam in advance, but we did not dare in this situation and not only that we are such patriots, but both have parents, we love them very much. Lost 100 thousand rubles.

[NordUral]

It's a shame, but the right decision. And our children went to Slovakia and Austria, it’s good that they even managed to get back before closing and didn’t take anything. Since then they have been sitting at home.

[Vadim237]

It was necessary to do this back in January - but then no one even suggested that pneumonia, which was slurred in the media, including from the Chinese media, would turn out to be a new dangerous virus that could infect the whole world to a pandemic. And now when everything happened so easy to reason.

[NordUral]

Vadim, for this there are research institutes of virology, flu and other nasty things. For this, the state exists (in our country this is an imitation of the state).

[Vadim237]

As I remember, they gave us a sample of the virus only at the end of February for study - so your "We have an imitation of the state" does not work here.

[NordUral]

Samples are samples, but we do not have a social state, they only create visibility, and even then they constantly pierce through stupidity.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Spambox

We are all in 1 boat.

Write from Rublevka? Everything is there exactly from one "boat"

[Overlock]

Quote: Spambox

We are all in 1 boat.

People and power are on different sides, power is at war with the population, it helps the coronovirus.
Putin sent the country on vacation, throwing the financial side on the people themselves. As a result, employers forced employees to take leave at their own expense, transferred their workers to part-time work with a reduction in wages.
People stay at home with no means of subsistence. Need will force them to go outside, and there either a coronovirus or a police officer. And they will not miss their own. And those in power do not bother with this at all -
there is no money for people, but there is money for curbs; the Moscow City Hall has signed the largest contract for the purchase of concrete borders worth 3,2 billion rubles.
And from July 1, the FAS raises gas prices for the population by 3 percent. So we are in different boats.
And then, when it’s hard for everyone, both morally and financially, the government squeezes the last money out of people, forcing them to pay for the coronavirus epidemic

[adler87]

Yes, the boats are different with us.

[RVAPatriot]

You +, many are just looking for a scapegoat ... but if they themselves lived in Moscow, they would sing differently

[Phil77]

Sometimes it’s useful to think first, and then spread such crap.

[sabakina]

Bashkirkhan, in the first week of self-isolation, the Muscovites on Friday threw a crowd of friends to nearby and distant cottages at barbecue. Far, by their standards, 300-400 km. And after that, we are surprised at yesterday's surge in incidence in the regions? It seems that someone was offering a fence and concrete in the wrong place ....

[Kleber]

Quote: sabakina

Muscovites on Friday in a friendly crowd trampled on near and distant cottages at barbecue. Far, by their standards, 300-400 km.

These are not dachas. The vast majority of so-called "Muscovites" come from the regions. They rushed to their homeland.

[Phil77]

Well, after all, the main thing is! * Muscovites came in large numbers! *.

[sabakina]

Quote: Phil77

Well, after all, the main thing is! * Muscovites came in large numbers! *.

Sergei, and what? When they contemptuously "came in large numbers for sausage" beggars, who felt bad that we were buying our own sausage? Them? We ate them, took the last gram? Yes, our Kostroma meat-packing plant worked in two shifts for THEM! They imagined themselves to be a state within a state! And more importantly / than the entire USSR / RF! They are the second most exceptional after mattresses! Moscow was the capital of our country under I. Stalin. In 1998, during an excursion trip from the enterprise, I realized that only the Motherland remained!

[Phil77]

Glory! But it has already been said here: who will be blamed for the next for all the troubles? Yankees? Chinese? Muscovites? And why not neighbors? Well, well, as the next enemy number one? Are you really tired of it?

Quote: sabakina

Moscow was the capital of our country under I. Stalin.

Oh well? And before? And now? Has it not yet realized that a monstrous cynicism experiment is going on? And you * Muscovites * blame all troubles!

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Phil77

Glory! But it has already been said here: who will be blamed for the next for all the troubles? Yankees? Chinese? Muscovites? And why not neighbors? Well, well, as the next enemy number one? Are you really tired of it?

Quote: sabakina

Moscow was the capital of our country under I. Stalin.

Oh well? And before? And now? Has it not yet realized that a monstrous cynicism experiment is going on? And you * Muscovites * blame all troubles!

I'll I will support (including plus). Well, yes, we (ordinary residents) did not have enough just to mate with each other. What could be better for the top:
divide et impera (divide and conquer) - the principle of state power, which is often resorted to by governments of states consisting of dissimilar parts, and according to which the best method of managing such a state is incitement and use of hostility between its parts.

PS Muscovites are the same as the rest, and the disease does not understand where the Muscovite is, and where is "Zhiguli or Zaporozhets." And they are still living in an incomprehensible pre-trial detention center. The government would immediately introduce quarantine (ES) and this question about the guilt of Muscovites (it is clear that they travel more than others) would not be at all. And so, there really are some labor migrants from all over the country and abroad. And who counted them? But this is hardly the fault of ordinary Muscovites, and not the authorities.

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: Leshy1975

But this is hardly the fault of ordinary Muscovites, not the authorities.

Yes, stop liberalizing, they are always hungry 30 years ago they rode for the market and democracy in the capital, huckster brought to the Kremlin for American jeans and chewing gum, spitting on the country ... But only for that they ... Now here they have wound infection in foreign countries, leading a well-fed and carefree lifestyle, they are not married, again they do not give a damn about spreading the infection to the regions where their dachas and businesses are told .. They said the right thing, just shit from them ... pah!

[Leshy1975]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

Quote: Leshy1975

But this is hardly the fault of ordinary Muscovites, not the authorities.

Yes, stop liberalizing, they are always hungry 30 years ago they rode for the market and democracy in the capital, huckster brought to the Kremlin for American jeans and chewing gum, spitting on the country ... But only for that they ... Now here they have wound infection in foreign countries, leading a well-fed and carefree lifestyle, they are not married, again they do not give a damn about spreading the infection to the regions where their dachas and businesses are told .. They said the right thing, just shit from them ... pah!

So what, for example, did Sylvester (he is known to everyone on the site) have you done something wrong? If I understand correctly, he is a Moscow doctor.
Many jumped where. But do not forget about the fact that he shot the White House later, he was also in Moscow. And there people really died. And according to some, a lot. But where were all of us at that time? Why didn’t we end up there, together with the White House defenders, and prevented the seizure of power by the EBN? Well, or the death of Lev Rokhlin. He lived in Moscow and tried to change the situation; he was killed.
I would not smear everyone in one color and blame only Muscovites and even more so say that we have nothing to do with the issue of the collapse of the country. And the supporters of the current government (the heirs of EBN) in the capitals (Moscow and St. Petersburg) are probably in percentage terms less than in any province.

[Phil77]

Thank you for your support! But I think it’s useless to explain to those who don’t want to understand that there are ordinary residents of the city and there are inhabitants of Rublevka and the Kremlin / by the way very interesting that they have in the column * Place of birth *? /. Most likely there will soon be a place in all guilty will occupy the inhabitants of neighboring areas.

[Tank hard]

Grandfather. I can not help but piss here.

[NordUral]

Muscovites - they are different, like all of us. One thing is true - it is time to stop dogging for the joy of thieves in power and the liberal opposition.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Leshy1975

the best way to govern such a state is to incite and exploit enmity between its parts.

Niccolo Machiavelli wrote a wonderful treatise called The Sovereign. Judging by your comment, you (as well as the leaders of the Russian Federation) have not read this treatise. I recommend. Expands horizons ...

[helmi8]

Quote: sabakina

They imagined themselves to be a state in a state!

Is it not so?

[sabakina]

Do not speak? And in Soligalich (250 km from Kostroma, Kostroma from Moscow 350 km) did all the houses buy like imaginary Muscovites? Yeah, shas !!!

[Kleber]

Quote: sabakina

Do not speak? And in Soligalich (250 km from Kostroma, Kostroma from Moscow 350 km) did all the houses buy like imaginary Muscovites? Yeah, shas !!!

You check the place of birth of these Muscovites in your passport. You will be surprised. If you don’t recognize the neighbors 40 years ago.

[Phil77]

Ha, ha, ha !!!! Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! Bravo!

[sabakina]

Valery, you should not trick me, I'm already old, and I know what I'm writing.

[Pavel57]

Break Russia into small principalities?

[Svarog]

Quote: Deniska999

Moscow needed to be quarantined in mid-March

On good, it was necessary to close the border back in February .. but everyone who flew into quarantine for two weeks .. and there would be no problems .. but as always, slovenliness did not allow us to assess the threat and take timely measures .. but rather the flaw of our medicine. How many years I have been writing about this inferiority ... we just don’t have a diagnosis .. maybe now it will appear .. although I doubt these are unable to draw the right conclusions ..

[WIKI]

Quote: Svarog

How many years I write about this inferiority .. we simply do not have a diagnosis .. maybe it will appear now .. although I doubt these are not able to draw the right conclusions ..

"In addition, the accuracy of existing tests for detecting COVID-19 is 70-80%, and in some cases testing gives false negative results and the proportion of such results is significant. Now the assessment of the clinical picture in combination with CT or X-ray data plays a key role in the diagnosis." - said the head physician of the hospital in Kommunarka Denis Protsenko. "If during hospitalization the patient does not yet have test results, but when examined in the admission department, signs of COVID-19 pneumonia with characteristic clinical manifestations are revealed, then he is admitted to the hospital and treated as a patient with COVID infection." A committee of doctors created in the capital proposed to abandon the division of hospitals into coronavirus and hospitals for the treatment of pneumonia. It is for this reason that a sharp increase in the incidence has emerged. Https://rg.ru/2020/04/09/reg-cfo/v-moskve-ne-budut-razdeliat-stacionary-dlia-koronavirusa-i-pnevmonii.html

[Kisa]

There is hypocrisy here. Everyone nods to people from abroad brought the plague. Right now, everyone nods to the Muscovites spread the infection. In a couple of weeks it will be regional regional centers that will carry infection in the outback. Blaming that here or here is less conscious is meaningless. Everyone will continue to do so, explaining with their personal exceptional circumstances. Only the Chinese method will only slow down the infection with a stick. Until now, people say hello to the masks and don’t wear shish kebabs

[awdrgy]

Do not give us such a thing - let it be better to give a lot of money then we will sit at home and from sticks and Chinese methods riotless riots can happen and then it will not seem to everyone that they and their strangers want to introduce these methods

[DPN]

And do not want to kuya? Who will give them to you, for the sake of you to sell the island or give a fortune. Are you friends with your head?

[Alf]

Quote: awdrgy

Do not give us such a thing - let it be better to give a lot of money then we will sit at home and from sticks and Chinese methods riotless riots can happen and then it will not seem to everyone that they and their strangers want to introduce these methods

For a present.

And only then we will oppose.

[awdrgy]

Well not again this

[Tank hard]

Quote: Alf

And only then we will oppose

You gave nothing "head start"! There you have to give the primer ...

[Spambox]

And the inhabitants of the regions are not even quarantined when they leave Moscow from earnings to earn money? And then there are 2 standards. Many of the regions worked in Moscow. And everyone began to go home as soon as work was gone ...
Here the personal responsibility of a citizen is more important. If you feel bad, stay home!

[Alf]

Quote: Spambox

If you feel bad, stay home!

Will you feed? Or do you think that people are hired to work "devils where" because they want to see the world?

[Sergej1972]

What work with a clear sign of disease ah? To infect colleagues, colleagues?

[Phil77]

Quote: Deniska999

It was necessary to quarantine Moscow in mid-March and let Muscovites go on vacation to their small homelands.

So who shouldn’t be allowed in? Muscovites? Or, after all, your fellow countrymen who left to seek happiness in Moscow?

[V.I.P.]

Muscovites had nothing to let out of Moscow! And shift workers who are 2 weeks in Moscow, 2 weeks at home should not be allowed into Moscow. And in the regions, self-isolation should be introduced according to the state of incidence, and not imitation of Moscow. In our region (Tambov at the moment) ALL sick people came from abroad, then those who came from Moscow, now who had close contact with these visitors ... ... .. All the people spent 2 weeks at home, and now everyone went to work! Factories, markets, auto parts, materials, hairdressers, beauty salons-work. Launched a bus to the cottages (runs only in the summer season). At the same time, people are trying to fine for non-compliance with self-isolation ... ... .. Are these adequate leaders ??? We are just beginning to incidence, and all began to work .....

[Phil77]

The answer is above.

[Doccor18]

1-mode emergency for 14 days throughout the country.
2-all arrivals from across the hill for 14-day quarantine in any suitable building, but not at home.
These measures would help.
Thousands of infected would not be.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Deniska999

Moscow needed to be quarantined in mid-March

not Moscow, but all those arriving in Moscow from abroad - immediately under control in the recreation centers and under guard until complete testing!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Sandor Clegane

Quote: Deniska999
Moscow needed to be quarantined in mid-March

not Moscow, but all those arriving in Moscow from abroad - immediately under control in the recreation centers and under guard until complete testing!

This is all irrelevant. The question is what to do next? The government has long been self-isolated from us, and lives in its own world. So the infection will continue to walk around Russia, it seems.

[Vadim237]

We are waiting for an effective vaccine - they promise to do it by the end of the year, and there they will have to vaccinate the whole country against this super-powerful and super-infectious Wuhan.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Mordvin 3

So the infection will continue to walk around Russia, it seems.

as virologists said back in January (and I agreed with them) that until 50-70% of the population falls ill, the virus cannot be stopped by democratic methods

[avdkrd]

Quote: Deniska999

It was necessary to quarantine Moscow in mid-March and let Muscovites go on vacation to their small homelands. I judge by my region: the majority of infected people came into contact with Moscow residents. Yes, and communication with foreign countries had to be closed earlier.

Yes, there is no quarantine. Full sur. Those measures that have been taken have nothing to do with the spread of the virus. The author described everything in detail. What happens is more like occupation.
1. The measures taken cannot limit the spread of the virus. You can even delay slightly.
In general, if an emergency could extend the time of infection, then current measures are generally useless.
2. Statistics show that the mortality of coronovirus is less than that of swine and bird flu. In general, the picture is even softer, as the light form prevails. General figures show that from tobacco and alcohol mortality is 10 times higher from tuberculosis by 30. This is world statistics.
3. The picture as a whole is strange, but no one is telling us the truth and it makes us think ... Either it is too scary and this does not concern the coronovirus, or the whole situation is just a tool.
https://youtu.be/6MxxicJdA2E

[lis-ik]

Quote: Deniska999

It was necessary to quarantine Moscow in mid-March and let Muscovites go on vacation to their small homelands. I judge by my region: the majority of infected people came into contact with Moscow residents. Yes, and communication with foreign countries had to be closed earlier.

So Russian solidarity appeared. How everything is normal, so everything is in Moscow, and how what, so isolate.

[Tank hard]

Quote: lis-ik

That showed Russian solidarity

Did they stay there in Moscow?

[lis-ik]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: lis-ik

That showed Russian solidarity

Did they stay there in Moscow?

Well, I stayed. And there are many of us.

[Tank hard]

Quote: lis-ik

Well, I stayed

Well, at least someone ...

Quote: lis-ik

And there are many of us.

There were a year ago, the feeling that it is much less than others. And some "glamorous" ... Not all for sure, but. I guess I'm wrong.

[smart ass]

And if flights were closed on time, there would have been no such problem

[30143]

Well no. Even in early March, when tourists began to return.
And close the nursery of infection - METRO, restaurants, cafes.

[Svarog]

Quote: Ryaruav

It seems that now Russia will have problems not only with coronavirus, but also in the economy

And not only in Russia ... but we always had problems in the economy, and now they will become aggravated and aggravate very seriously .. Now the rest of the population will see that, as they were a commodity country, nothing has changed in 20 years ..

[Alf]

Quote: Svarog

the rest of the population will see

Nah ... this remnant is firmly convinced that sanctions, bad Trump, etc., but not the course of the Infallible, are to blame.

[Professor]

Quote: Ryaruav

It seems that now Russia will have problems not only with coronavirus, but also in the economy

It looks like "Russia" is capitalized.

[Tank hard]

Quote: professor

It looks like "Russia" is capitalized.

Yes, this is a patriot of the Russian Federation, like you.

[mavrus]

Of course, there will be problems in the economy because of the coronavirus, but these are small things compared to the problems "because of our government."
Our main problem is that they will solve problems at the expense of you and me, so that "our elite" does not have any problems.

[Overlock]

Quote: mavrus

Problems in the economy due to coronavirus

Х

Quote: mavrus

... with problems "because of our government

= crisis.
By autumn, we will count the chickens.
but for now ..
1. In Russia, the number of unemployed against the backdrop of the crisis due to coronavirus may increase by more than three times, said the head of the Accounts Chamber Alexei Kudrin on RBC television.
2. The Kremlin has confirmed an increase in crime in connection with the spread of the coronavirus, Kommersant FM reports citing the press secretary of Russian President Dmitry Peskov

[Alf]

Quote: Overlock

2. The Kremlin has confirmed an increase in crime in connection with the spread of the coronavirus, Kommersant FM reports citing the press secretary of Russian President Dmitry Peskov

How to understand it ? Crime is growing, but it's okay, are we all fixing it?
Sands once again "brings a blizzard", but ... as is the pop, so is the parish.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

And before they were not there :)

[Thrifty]

First of all, small and medium-sized businesses will begin to bend! Expect a series of bankruptcies! All the businessmen whom I know have already rushed to lawyers to file for bankruptcy proceedings! With salaries, too, it will not be rosy — these copecks will also be delayed, because a lot of things do not work, how and how to pay salaries? In general, famously said there would be no good! !! Pleasant now we will not wait long!

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Ryaruav

only with coronavirus there will be problems but also in the economy

Well, if other countries have problems, why don’t we? We’ll hit the private owners hardest. But are you going to stop the message with Moscow or will you still be infected by regions? I’m the officials

[Prisoner]

And in other countries, it looks good with the virus, and there are no problems in the economy at all, and there has even been an unprecedented rise in this very economy. Yes? Sorry, but how about you, too, rise?

[lis-ik]

Quote: Ryaruav

It seems that now Russia will have problems not only with coronavirus, but also in the economy

And before the type with the economy was everything all right? This is another trench, as well as sanctions for our feudal lords.

[NordUral]

Why will be? They have been registered with us for a long time, the fourth dozen have already gone, cheerfully so.

[Lannan Shi]

And again, the main part - Moscow and the Moscow region

Everything is much worse.
If 3 weeks ago Moscow gave about 80% of the increase in the number of cases, now it’s a little over 50. A month of days off, complete transport freedom, and quite predictably, the sore was spread all over the country.
Power showed absolute impotence, against the background of total greed. An emergency mode that really would allow fighting was not announced and ... There are no impressions that will not be announced. For it will hit the pocket of the state, which our authorities consider their own. Self-isolation + weekend - heavy nonsense, in principle, not able to influence for the better. For the worse, easily. As we observe in all its glory.

[DeusExMachina]

Quote: Lannan Shi

And again, the main part - Moscow and the Moscow region

Everything is much worse.
If 3 weeks ago Moscow gave about 80% of the increase in the number of cases, now it’s a little over 50. A month of days off, complete transport freedom, and quite predictably, the sore was spread all over the country.
Power showed absolute impotence, against the background of total greed. An emergency mode that really would allow fighting was not announced and ... There are no impressions that will not be announced. For it will hit the pocket of the state, which our authorities consider their own. Self-isolation + weekend - heavy nonsense, in principle, not able to influence for the better. For the worse, easily. As we observe in all its glory.

Well, people, for example, come and say: how not to work? You need to pay a loan, and the employer will not pay for your sitting on the fifth point of the house, so you have to forget about this "Self-isolation"

[Svarog]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Power showed absolute impotence,

Moreover, in all spheres of life .. they "stand" only when it is necessary to reset to zero ..

[Overlock]

Quote: nerovnayadoroga

The most important thing now is not to scratch the vote for zeroing

I think, there will not be him, since further

Quote: nerovnayadoroga

generally seams ...

[Alf]

Quote: Overlock

Quote: nerovnayadoroga

The most important thing now is not to scratch the vote for zeroing

I think, there will not be him, since further

Quote: nerovnayadoroga

generally seams ...

It will be. While the people are crazy, the easiest way to push through the eternal kingdom.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Power showed absolute impotence, against the background of total greed. An emergency mode that would really allow fighting was not announced.

Neither in the USA, nor in Europe, the situation is no better ... Always wanted to take an example from them. For what they fought, they ran into it ... After all, the hunt in Cannes, Nice, for the worst in Pattaya ... Freedom and democracy.

[New Year day]

Why didn't the questions diminish? Everything is clear, the model of Western health care that was being built in Russia has failed miserably. The reformers Golikova-Skvortsova-Sobyanin, covering up their stupidity with the health and lives of the remaining Russian doctors, are trying to save their face. Lines of ambulances show that Sobyanin's words a year ago “the entire population of Moscow can be laid on the existing hospital beds in an even layer” is a lie. There are no beds, there are no doctors. The first medical squads, thrown into the battle with the virus by him and Therapists, reanimatologists are sick, the leader is already proposing to throw students into the fight. Will he himself be treated by the students? At the same time, only public health doctors are fighting the virus, commercial ones are sitting at home. If you do not introduce an emergency, then by In the fall, the virus will significantly thin the public health system and there will be no one to cure.With the existing shortage of doctors more than 25 thousand, and nurses - more than 100 thousand, losses will be significant.
The first question is "who is to blame?" the answer is obvious. The names have been named.
What to do? - Enter emergency.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Silvestr

What to do? - Enter emergency.

In regions with an emergency / state of emergency, the issues of the survival of citizens are assigned to the state. And citizens, meanwhile, by 30 or 50%, the figures are different, they have increased loans from microfinance. Those. the situation - "there is nothing to eat" is no longer an abstraction, but quite itself has come to many. And the exotic, the last 15 years exotic, kind of theft was revived. They begin to pull the food out of the hands. The Ministry of Internal Affairs officially admits this fact.
Hey, gentlemen, Zapupins, broadcasting that people have a lot of money, and everyone is happy for the month of vacation, what now?

[Svarog]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Hey, gentlemen, Zapupins, broadcasting that people have a lot of money, and everyone is happy for the month of vacation, what now?

There have never been any clear arguments from them .. and now even more so ..

[Vadim237]

It’s only you who have icteric crap and scrambled eggs with faknews for the truth - enema yourself with all sorts of rubbish, but others do not.

[depressant]

Colleagues, do not believe me, microfinance specialists, whom Lannan Shi remembered, they are openly patronized by the head of the Central Bank Nabiullina, and now they have already come out with a proposal to add them to the list (yes, the same one - from 646 support enterprises of Russia) to receive support from the state in the form significant tax incentives. These are the characters who, having from 50% to 500% of the profits from human misfortunes, made 16 billion in net profit last year. As soon as the Internet scandalously achieved exclusion from the list of Fonbet bookmakers, as to the state. new swindlers climbed to the feeder. Knowledgeable people say that these will be quietly admitted. Still, such a patroness! And small and medium-sized businesses and self-employed people are told: has the property not been damaged? Didn't it burn down, didn't the flood carry it away? It means not an insured event, you go through the forest! There will be no tax breaks! Given the fact that in the economic niche occupied by small and medium-sized businesses, as well as the self-employed, a huge number of citizens feed, the coronavirus clearly highlighted the government's dismissive attitude towards the poor, towards those who in many cases barely make ends meet, and even and pays taxes. It looks like bloodsuckers like bookmakers and microfinance are more attractive to him.

[kjhg]

Quote: depressant

Colleagues, you will not believe it, microfinancers whom Lannan Shi mentioned, they are openly patronized by the head of the Central Bank of Nabiullina, and now they have already come out with a proposal to add them to the list (yes, the one from 646 supporting enterprises of Russia) to receive support from the state in the form significant tax benefits. These are those characters who, having from 50% to 500% profit from human misfortunes, had 16 billion net profit over the past year.

Lyudmila Yakovlevna, don't you know that the lion's share of microfinance organizations are directly affiliated with the largest Russian banks? In fact, they are their "daughters". Elvira Sakhipzadovna, patronizing these organizations, acts directly in the interests of the owners and shareholders of the largest banks. If we understand this, then the favor of the Central Bank in relation to the draconian percentages of microloans becomes understandable and clear. Capitalism, which exists in Russia, comes from the word capital, and not from the word society, alas.

[depressant]

Kjhg, honestly, did not know ((
Having never dealt with such organizations, I thought that they were something like pawnshops, and, reading negative about them, I was all surprised how the state tolerates them! And now I have a question for myself: why don’t I know about our government?
For example, today I read Putin's address to someone unknown - it is not known, because he said “it is necessary to create”. Who needs? It is necessary to create, he said, a state reserve through centralized procurement of personal protective equipment for medical personnel. He said, and my thoughts were squeezed: why, there was no reserve? And if there was, where did it go? And - here's someone who will get enough of supplies to and from the reserve! And how much will be stolen ...
The president himself directed the cynicism of my thoughts, nullifying his proposal with the remark that, if necessary, the Ministry of Defense’s funds could be used.

[nerovnayadoroga]

Further it could be worse if people are not given money, writing off aphids deferred debts, the situation can get out of their control and easily ....

[Kunica]

Introduce when it will be too late. How many people will pay for it with their lives - God knows. No matter how they shouted that you need to work ahead of the curve - everything remains in words.

[bubalik]

At the same time, only public health doctors fight in the fight against the virus, while commercial doctors stay at home.

,,, soon everyone will stand under arms.
The order of the President of the Russian Federation of April 9, 2020
4. The Government of the Russian Federation, senior officials (heads of the highest executive bodies of state power) of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation together with the working group of the State Council of the Russian Federation on counteracting the spread of new coronavirus infection using a single information resource of the CCI:

a) provide conducting an inventory in medical organizations (regardless of the legal form of ownership and form of ownership) to assess their readiness to provide medical care to patients with a new coronavirus infection (COVID-19), including an inventory of:

beds deployed in specialized hospitals, which are equipped with medical equipment, other necessary equipment and are provided with medicines, supplies, disposable dishes, etc. in accordance with the procedures for the provision of medical care and recommendations approved by the Ministry of Health of Russia, are staffed by specialist doctors of the appropriate profile have specialized protection and to which an uninterrupted supply of services is provided (electricity, heat supply, water supply f and water disposal, waste management of various hazard classes) of resource-supplying organizations, taking into account capacity reserves;

reserve of free beds, including in order to determine their readiness for re-profiling for hospitalization of patients with a new coronavirus infection (COVID-19), the possibility of equipping them in accordance with established requirements and forming a reserve of infectious and resuscitation beds;

the necessary equipment (its availability and condition in accordance with applicable standards), primarily mechanical ventilation apparatuses, narcotic respiratory apparatuses, extracorporeal membrane oxygenation apparatuses, as well as consumables for them (including masks for non-invasive ventilation of the lungs);

[Overlock]

Quote: bubalik

soon everyone will stand under a gun.

I wonder, on the basis of which article of which law? Is martial law introduced?

[bubalik]

,,, you literally do not accept , but commercial. medical institutions also counted.
Interestingly, with the possible introduction of emergency situations, will they use the resources of these institutions?

[Overlock]

Quote: bubalik

Interestingly, when introducing an emergency, will he use the resources of these institutions?

have you introduced emergency situations? we have SELF-INSULATION.
And then, mobilization was possible under the USSR, and now, it is not clear what. And then, Putin said:

and from what hangover will people mobilize? Really- I do not see such a mechanism. About machine guns is not worth talking about.
Suggest ....

[bubalik]

what hangover people will mobilize? Really- I do not see such a mechanism.

,,,I do not I know.

[Overlock]

Quote: bubalik

I do not request know.

I also

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: bubalik

including inventory:

beds deployed in specialized hospitals, which are equipped with medical equipment, other necessary equipment and are provided with medicines, supplies, disposable tableware, etc. in accordance with the procedures for providing medical care and recommendations approved by the Ministry of Health of Russia,

Pioneer camps would ideally fit as temporary hospitals. Only all of them have long been optimized for the most part.

[Alf]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Pioneer camps would ideally fit as temporary hospitals. Only all of them have long been optimized for the most part.

They will occupy elite sanatoriums. And then they will send the sick account.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Alf

They will occupy elite sanatoriums.

And these will not be enough.

[Alf]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Alf

They will occupy elite sanatoriums.

And these will not be enough.

So they will condense, otherwise you’ve thought of one number, one person.

[sabakina]

Quote: Silvestr

What to do? - Enter emergency.

Sylvester, I'm afraid the situation will not come to a head. Sorry, but our people for 75 years without a war have become loose. Cars, nightclubs, parties, drugs, and other "delights" of modern life ....

[Alexander X]

public health doctors, commercial - sitting at home.
*****
No need to mislead people! I have friends, doctors of the highest category. All of them work in private clinics. EVERYTHING, I repeat, they all WORK and accept patients! Constantly in touch with them.

[Vadim237]

It's good to fantasize there - name the number of doctors infected at the moment, otherwise your forecast "By the fall, the virus will significantly thin the public health system and there will be no one to be treated" - a finger to the sky.

[Alf]

No, well, I’m goofing off of him. Left people without incomes, forced to stay at home, then allowed to work and after being surprised by the surge of diseases? He gave the police the right to fine for leaving the house, but he did not introduce an emergency mode, he allowed all kinds of hairdressers to work, but he ordered clients to stay home. Is everything all right with the OS?
Today, growth is 2500 people. Coincidence?

[New Year day]

Quote: Alf

Is everything all right with the OS?

there you can see the "blue screen of death". Sailed

[Alf]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Alf

Is everything all right with the OS?

there you can see the "blue screen of death". Sailed

"Reinstallation" saves from the "blue screen". Cardinal.

[New Year day]

Quote: Alf

"Reinstallation" saves from the "blue screen". Cardinal.

the geek is coming soon. "Annushka has already spilled oil"

[sabakina]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Alf

"Reinstallation" saves from the "blue screen". Cardinal.

the geek is coming soon. "Annushka has already spilled oil"

Sylvester, the fact that we are all "Master" is understandable. It is not clear who will be Margarita ...

[Svarog]

Quote: Alf

Is everything all right with the OS?

I have long doubted this ..

[depressant]

No, Svarog, everything is wrong with the OS. By 2017, as a result of health care reform, Russia confidently reached the level of the RSFSR in 1932 in terms of the number of medical institutions. Knowledgeable people say that in 2020 we will just as confidently reach the level of 1913.
For example, Moscow met the coronavirus with the number of infectious beds, one third less than before the start of the reform, children's infectious diseases became less than a third. So that's it. It turns out that this is only the so-called first decade of the reform, and all the "optimization" signed by Putin will still last right up to 2025 inclusive. Apparently, there will be no government hospitals at all. Do you want to be treated for a virus? Spread out the money! This, colleagues, is capitalism.
Now look at the staggering figures about children's hospitals - by country:
52.1% - without hot water
41.1% - without heating
35% - without sewage
30% - without water.
And they demand demographics from us?!?
It seems that the coronavirus turned out to be kinder than our government - it almost does not kill children.

[Vadim237]

And with all this, 100000 beds have been reserved for patients with coronovirus. 16 infectious hospitals are now being built and almost completed. .
"52.1% - without hot water
41.1% - without heating
35% - without sewage
30% - without water "
And that these are children's hospitals in the outback in which all of the above: there was no central heating of water supply and sewerage since the time of the construction of ones in the USSR. Yes, the information is really nothing - it is designed only for impressionable fools. In the Accounts Chamber, however, the jokes are the same.

[sen]

People’s incomes are falling, but prices are creeping up due to the coronavirus.

[mitroha]

Everything is very, it seems to me simple. All adults, many even conscious people. Do you want to increase the chance to get sick, go, work, relax. If you want to lower, follow reasonable and recommended safety measures. All.
I have been raising the level of responsibility of my elderly parents for a week, but they seem to be sitting at home now, without any gusts of shopping, etc.
Of course, if the epidemic happened a month later, it would be easier. He sent half of the country of pensioners to their dachas, and they themselves are calmer and they are in relative "quarantine".

[Pashtet]

Cleaning consumers continues.

[Alf]

Quote: Mitroha

Everything is very, it seems to me simple. All adults, many even conscious people. Do you want to increase the chance to get sick, go, work, relax. If you want to lower, follow reasonable and recommended safety measures. All.

Want to, die of hunger. We live in a free country ... As the character of the joke joked, they did not promise to feed us on the road.

[Alf]

Quote: Mitroha

I have been raising the level of responsibility of my elderly parents for a week, but they seem to be sitting at home now, without any gusts of shopping, etc.

And who feeds them? Do your parents order home delivery? Can I find out the size of their pensions? You bring, so you violate the regime of self-isolation? Who pays for the apartment and how? Do you work or insulate yourself?

[mitroha]

No, I just bought everything to the maximum initially, if I need to give a ride. The apartment is paid with a pension online. I work from home with trips.
I do not panic and do not advise you, your nerves are not restored, unlike the financial situation. Health to all

[Glory1974]

According to the net, there are three ways to deal with a pandemic.
1 way - Chinese. Introduce tough measures, declare quarantine, pour money into the business.
2 way - Swedish. Do nothing, wait for it to resolve itself.
3 way - Russian. To declare that we are fighting as in China, to do nothing as in Sweden. The difference (in money) is stiff.

[Alf]

Quote: glory1974

2 way - Swedish. Do nothing, wait for it to resolve itself.

As if with this option, Sweden itself would not resolve ...

[Russian Bear_2]

Yes and figs with her.

[Svarog]

Quote: glory1974

According to the net, there are three ways to deal with a pandemic.
1 way - Chinese. Introduce tough measures, declare quarantine, pour money into the business.
2 way - Swedish. Do nothing, wait for it to resolve itself.
3 way - Russian. To declare that we are fighting as in China, to do nothing as in Sweden. The difference (in money) is stiff.

I applaud while standing! Exactly..

[DMB 75]

over the past two weeks, the authorities have not been able to decide what kind of regime is in effect in the country: quarantine, voluntary self-isolation or self-isolation involuntary.

Question of questions. I don't understand either. Quarantine, so quarantine, but this "self-isolation" is not a candle to God, not a damn poker. Half-measures. After walking a couple of hours around the city (I went to the pharmacy, not on a tour), I can absolutely say that people live ordinary life, they wear little masks, public transport is jam-packed, shops are open. An ordinary Monday. Then why all this? Why have many people been deprived of their jobs for a month, after all, not all state employees, this is their paid vacation, and the rest ? More questions than answers ...

[Mastodon]

Quote: DMB 75

Question of questions. I don't understand either. Quarantine, so quarantine, but this "self-isolation" is not a candle to God, not a damn poker. Half-measures. After walking a couple of hours around the city (I went to the pharmacy, not on a tour), I can absolutely say that people live everyday life, masks are scarce, public transport is jam-packed, shops are open. Normal Monday. Then why all this?

Well, I don’t know, when they’ll start coughing in your surroundings. We will see how you behave (in Russia, according to the latest data, the situation is getting worse, especially in Moscow) And in Moscow there are a lot of people working from the regions and they will soon return to the province ..

Quote: DMB 75

Why did they deprive many people of their work for a month, after all, not all state employees, is this, consider, paid leave, and the rest? More questions than answers ...

Well, state employees continue to work udalenka, etc. But all sorts of buy-sell. Here it’s more difficult for them now and those who are on the black s \ n quietly ..
It was not Russia that created the virus, and we didn’t make a fuss.!
This is called a check of all national security systems, in case of more serious disasters!
Nowhere to run "gentlemen" .. !!!
And many suddenly remembered that they were citizens of Russia and were demanding their return .. But it was too late!

[flicker]

And many suddenly remembered that they were citizens of Russia and were demanding their return .. But it was too late!

All the same, we continue to return.
Just in March, about a million Russians returned, 1/5 of them tourists, the rest with permanent residence.
As the ass began to bake so immediately remembered Russia.

[Mastodon]

Quote: flicker

Just in March, about a million Russians returned, 1/5 of them tourists, the rest with permanent residence.
As the ass began to bake so immediately remembered Russia.

There they were well shown who they are .. And even in spite of their money and influential parents ..
Why are they needed here? We have enough of our whiners here "it's time to get out of this country" ...))))

[Prisoner]

My class identity for not returning. But life experience so whispers so tediously, but how, we don’t leave our own? Someone is not his own, but still a compatriot, at least formally. Affairs.

[vindigo]

It’s necessary to do in South Korea. They do not have dual citizenship. If you obtain the citizenship of another state, then automatically lose the citizenship of your home country.

[Sergej1972]

Builders and most industrial workers also work.

[Gennady Korsunov]

Now, when surrounded by Putin, the fins begin to glue together, then maybe the people will believe in this PANTOMIMA !!

[7,62x54]

A bad story with this virus, and in the course of the Kremlin sitters got their ears drunk. It should have been a lightning battle with the virus, and a heroic victory. Only now it was smooth on paper.

[Million]

By the way, there are tourists from Russia who can’t fly home from abroad in any way. Some of them are still taken out, primarily the residents of Moscow .....

[fa2998]

Quote: Lannan Shi

complete transport freedom, and quite predictably, the sore was stolen all over the country.

I agree, everything is much worse. The tests were carried out by about 1 million (1 per 140 people, on average in the Russian Federation), most of them were carried out in Moscow, the region and millionaires. In the outback, it’s quiet and smooth. But the infection has already been brought in, we will soon treat in some kind of Mukhoska, but with health care there "wah". In Moscow, they can not localize.

[Gardamir]

If the self-prisoners do not have money, you can call them to stay at home as much as they like. But no one will bring food and medicine.

[Van 16]

Here, on VO, the phrase "criticize - offer" flashed, I would update it: "issued a decree - provide." He said "stay at home", provide money and food, said "you can work", provide transport.
Many enterprises have earned here, and at the same time they have reduced transport, where is the logic? Buses are jam-packed morning and evening.

[parusnik]

Purely from a philistine point of view. In our town, there are only two retail chains of 5 and Magnit. Potatoes were brought 36 r per kg, bananas are also in the region of 60 r per kg, but for lemons, prices are rising like the dollar, three weeks ago the price was 120 r per kg now, in Magnit there are none at all, in 5-ke 398, in small shops 405 - 415. Prices for other products are also rising. I am very interested in the question: after the final victory over coronavirus, will prices go down sharply?

[Gardamir]

Very interested in the question, after the final victory over the coronavirus, will prices go down sharply?

[LKWUE]

In Kiev, right now, the quarantine is complete, the transport does not go, there are no granny concierges, there is nothing to get to work with them, elevators and door handles are all covered with antiseptics, cars, motorcycles, bicycles and scooters go!
Ps can someone tell me how to insert a picture from the phone?

[Alf]

Quote: parusnik

Very interested in the question, after the final victory over the coronavirus, will prices go down sharply?

What country do you live in? They said about gasoline that cheap gasoline would spoil the entire economy, and why should prices for other products and things fall?

[Overlock]

Quote: parusnik

Very interested in the question, after the final victory over the coronavirus, will prices go down sharply?

It was under Stalin that prices went down, after- only up

[Svarog]

Quote: parusnik

Very interested in the question, after the final victory over the coronavirus, will prices go down sharply?

Have our prices ever gone down? I know that only under Stalin it was observed ... and then only up .. and the victory over the crown is not close yet, the Chinese write that the second wave awaits us in November ..

[Reptiloid]

Quote: parusnik

Purely from a philistine point of view. In our town, there are only two retail chains of 5 and Magnit. Potatoes were brought 36 r per kg, bananas are also in the region of 60 r per kg, but prices for lemons are rising ....... .. The prices for other products are also rising. The question is very interesting: after the final victory over the coronavirus, will prices go down sharply?

I'm interested too. We have few people in grocery now, and how isolation will be canceled, then as soon as everyone runs away, they will probably go up in price, probably a lot. We have now, it seems, so far it’s not more expensive.

[petrol cutter]

“All this looks like strange half-measures, after which the main guilty people can be written down as“ irresponsible people. ”And the people for the most part ... they are conscious, but at the same time they just want specific explanations:

when to go to work;

if not, then who, when and to what extent will provide for the family; "
The whole extreme paragraph expresses all my thoughts on this subject.
I can also add questions from myself on local misunderstandings. But I can’t add it.
The bottom line is that something really, really muddy happens.
And I absolutely do not like it ...

[edasko]

Why is there something incomprehensible? First, they will force everyone to shake out their savings, then the crumbs will start to pay.
https://ria.ru/20191125/1561539075.html
On average 200 tr everyone has it. It’s clear that someone doesn’t. This benefits. Just because no one will pay anything, and for a long time they wanted to launch paws on deposits - that’s the reason.

[Alf]

Quote: edasko

On average 200 tr everyone has it

No need to compare my savings and the stash of Abramovich.

[petrol cutter]

"On average, 200 tr each."
You flatter me fiercely.
Minus fifteen thousand on a credit card. From a bank with the proud name RNKB.
So shake something out of me, it’s utopia. What is characteristic, we have a lot of such.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Petrol cutter

Minus fifteen thousand on a credit card.

Similarly! Children's allowances blocked part, but -10 remained. It’s good that the freezer is full of ducks, although you shouldn’t buy meat.

[Ross xnumx]

There was a third week of self-isolation, questions did not decrease ...

I’m just wondering who these people who saw in the article some sacred meaning?
To you, Mr. namesake of a famous speaker in the country, not one that always “walks with a peak”, but one who makes statements:

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it should be known who and why governs the country. You would embed your questions on the site of "Himself" and he would answer you:

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But in Kemerovo, the changes are as follows: masks appeared (not in pharmacies) for speculators of 30 rubles each, and the intimate goods store “Temptation”, which is located on 33 Stroiteley Boulevard, offers reusable masks for 300 rubles (I did not become curious about what kind of mask : “Fantomas masks” or some others with warts and antennae).
The sheer hype in the grocery was asleep. But cereal prices (we do not live under socialism) suddenly rose. So for buckwheat about 1,5 - 2 times. Prices for eggs have risen.
Due to the warming, the streets are full of children (masked and without). Putin could not explain to them why they should stay at home.
Police raids on the situation among the elderly continue.
I'm only interested in two questions:
1. By what decree will the GDP be able to stop spring agricultural and garden work.
2. How likely is a relapse of the disease.
The rest is already drawn: everything goes according to concepts. Does anyone else believe that ALL people going out of doors do it forcibly? And what happens if the decline in infections does not occur?
And most importantly. How can we express our attitude towards constitutional amendments?

[Overlock]

Quote: ROSS 42

I'm only interested in two questions:
1. By what decree will the GDP be able to stop spring agricultural and garden work.
2. How likely is a relapse of the disease.

1. no
2. The Chinese are already talking about the second wave of coronavirus

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: ROSS 42

1. By what decree will the GDP be able to stop spring agricultural and garden work.

No one will stop the summer residents. Moreover, drought on the horizon looms.

[Chaldon48]

Yes, all this nonsense, everyone will not die out. They used to say that the one who sang for this dies.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Chaldon48

They used to say that the one who sang for this dies.

The one who dies does not tear off his "dies" from the sofa. The rest live ...

[Phil77]

Quote: sabakina

It seems that someone was offering a fence and concrete in the wrong place ....

Do we live in specific principalities? Already?

[Oleg1]

In fact, it would be difficult to expect a 100% victory over the coronavirus, when even officials cannot plainly explain to citizens what the sanitary regime is in any given region.
There is no problem to leave everyone quarantined in their own apartments, this is impossible for many reasons. The meaning of the declared self-isolation is to reduce contacts with other people and thereby reduce the spread of the virus.
And much more in the article that, to put it mildly, is not friends with logic, for example:

"and the vaccine will definitely be invented in the near future;
and if the virus also returns after the "first" pandemic ... back home again? .. "

And why if there is already a medicine then why self-isolation? Self-isolation for self-isolation? Or to make people bad? Or was the goal of the article not to raise questions but to promote?

[Oleg1]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

With regard to Muscovites, one must learn from the Indian experience and drive back to Moscow. They soon reboot the whole country. Muscovites will be cured if something happens, and a specific Arctic fox will come to the inhabitants of Zamkadye.

But why trifle then? Maybe immediately with machine guns?

Here is an interim coronovirus guideline approved by WHO:
http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_348951/
as we see the measures being taken in the country in accordance with international practice and the advice of WHO.

[Oleg1]

And yes, they say that the site of the Moscow City Hall, where clearance permits are issued, has undergone numerous hacker attacks. Who does this and for what purpose? You don’t need to say that this is done by hackers who do not care whom to attack! I will not believe!

[Werwulf_1989]

Simply, "effective managers" did not know that millions would rush there and put the site down.

[Phil77]

Oleg, good evening! I’m telling you how it was. I miraculously issued this pass quickly and without any problems because of my / well, let's call it / curiosity and a kind of love for little anarchy. So, the official site * of Moscow State Services * was supposed to begin distribution * Ausweis * from 9.00, but I got in there at 8.15 and ... it turned out !!!! And my colleagues suffered all day. That's it.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Phil77

I miraculously designed this pass quickly and without any problems.

What kind of ausweis is this?

[Phil77]

I explain. Before that, we were given a pass on paper in the service, well, the fact that the enterprise is in dire need of my presence at work, etc. And now we have introduced an electronic pass to move around the city. But in order to go to the country house, for example , you need to write out a one-time and it is valid only for 24 hours. That's it.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Phil77

Prior to this, we were given a pass on paper in the service, well, the fact that the enterprise is in dire need of my presence at work, etc. And now we have introduced an electronic pass to move around the city. But in order to go to the country house, for example, you need write out one-time and it is valid only for 24 hours. Here it is.

That is, without these bells and whistles they can be arrested, fined, imprisoned, like a roasted chicken?

[Phil77]

Volodya! Here it’s such a thing, arrest-fine, you can imprison anyone. There would be a desire, but .. Regarding the high-profile case at the Patriarch's Ponds, where Jesus was detained with a dog, he was issued for * resistance to the police * who knows what he is did you say to the cops? And in what tone? The guys are people too and understand very well that the same old woman or grandfather needs to go to the store, to the pharmacy! After all, there are just lonely people whom they should contact? Volunteers? Well, yes. Only how many of them wait afterwards?

[bubalik]

,,, yes Seryoga, now without multipassport nowhere

,,, dress the wrong color vest (throw garbage, to work, to the store) you hop and
How not to remember ,, Kin Dza Dza ,,

[Phil77]

Close! Oh, come close!

[Overlock]

Quote: Phil77

Officially, the site * Moscow government services * was supposed to start distributing * ausways * from 9.00, but I got in there at 8.15 and ... it turned out !!!! And my colleagues suffered all day.

SMS is even easier

[Phil77]

Maybe. But I already!

[Oleg1]

Quote: Phil77

Oleg, good evening! I’m telling you how it was. I miraculously issued this pass quickly and without any problems because of my / well, let's call it / curiosity and a kind of love for little anarchy. So, the official site * of Moscow State Services * was supposed to begin distribution * Ausweis * from 9.00, but I got in there at 8.15 and ... it turned out !!!! And my colleagues suffered all day. That's it.

Yes, thanks for the info ...

[Oleg1]

Quote: Werwulf_1989

Simply, "effective managers" did not know that millions would rush there and put the site down.

What about hacker attacks lying? I do not believe....

[Viktor Sergeev]

Well, what the hell is self-isolation? Tula region: shops are operating, factories are operating, transport is jam-packed (the number of vehicles has been reduced, probably especially for crowding). People walk and no one is trying to control this self-isolation (65 year olds). We are waiting for an epidemic, as with this approach this is the only result.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

People walk

Well, to be honest, there are much fewer people walking than usual in this weather. And crowds already on the benches do not lap beer, as six months ago.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Well, to be honest, there are much fewer people walking than usual in this weather.

Well, on Sunday, 3 million people walked around Moscow. What is the isolation here ???

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: tihonmarine

Well, on Sunday, 3 million people walked around Moscow. What is the isolation here ???

I'm not talking about Moscow, but about my city. In reality, there are fewer people hanging around the streets.

[Oleg1]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

Well, what the hell is self-isolation? Tula region: shops are operating, factories are operating, transport is jam-packed (the number of vehicles has been reduced, probably especially for crowding). People walk and no one is trying to control this self-isolation (65 year olds). We are waiting for an epidemic, as with this approach this is the only result.

You have hundreds and thousands of infected people and is it time to drive everyone into apartments and stop the industry? Why didn’t you know that it’s so bad in the Tula region ....

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Oleg1

You have hundreds and thousands of infected people and is it time to drive everyone into apartments and stop the industry?

No, wait, sir, when the rooster pecks at the rolls.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mordvin 3

No, wait, sir, when the rooster pecks at the rolls.

And, something, have not pecked yet ???

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: tihonmarine

And, something, have not pecked yet ???

But FIG knows. We do not test much. At least I don’t know who the virus test would be.

[lis-ik]

Why, when walking a dog within a radius of 100 m from the house, when traveling in a taxi or on a bus, when following the street with a QR code or a certificate from the place of work, nothing is said about the risk of infection, and in other cases, pictures are drawn that are close to apocalyptic ? Why do "stars" and individual politicians, urging to "stay home", after the call, often post on Instagram their own photos on which they are not at home

And even more why and why the main thing arises after the analysis of mortality in general and in particular for this year. Why is this hysteria and a global scam? What do the authorities of the countries participating in this performance want to achieve? I understand that in Italy, the economy was not so hot, and in Germany, tolerance and refugees were tortured, I won’t talk about the Russian Federation, we were surrounded by heaps of enemies, Pechenegs and Polovtsy, and then the damned virus. In the US, there is a huge foreign debt and bloated stock exchange transactions, as well as a trade war with China. In general, it is beneficial to almost everyone. It makes no sense only to those who are equally divided or who are doing well, and so (despite the oil). I think guessed it, I'm talking about Belarusians and Swedes. What is coming in the world? Those who believe in the disease, continue to believe.

[Prisoner]

Dissatisfied with self-isolation? So suggest more effective methods. And then boo-boo-boo-boo. Well, let’s blame rallies "against everything bad, for everything good", on barbecue, in offices and workshops. Forward! Do you still not understand that this is not a joke, or are you buzzy understanding? Business is a pity, I admit it. And when the doctors are overwhelmed and the strength is simply not enough to treat everyone. Will the average businessman help his business save his sick family? Or will the blogger, who has drifted from attention, be helped by his fresh air and nature not to bend from suffocation, when all his subscribers, rushing in orderly rows into nature, will infect each other and draw doctors to themselves?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Captive

Dissatisfied with self-isolation?

This painfully strange electrical tape. Example: the Soyuz kiosk ..., pah, Rospechat, that is, it’s closed, and a nearby booth selling cigarettes is open. Just like a bread stall. Therefore, as sellers of smoking and bread, no one pays for this electrical tape, unlike Rospechat, but everyone needs to eat.

[for]

Quote: Mordvin 3

the sale of smoking is open

According to Mishustin, tobacco products are a vital commodity.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Captive

Dissatisfied with self-isolation? So suggest more effective methods.

Well, so far there are no other measures. But the people are "rummaging", and what next ??

[Oleg1]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Oleg1

You have hundreds and thousands of infected people and is it time to drive everyone into apartments and stop the industry?

No, wait, sir, when the rooster pecks at the rolls.

Why trifle, immediately shoot all infected, and clean Moscow and Leningrad with a vigorous bomb, I understand you correctly?

Threat you are an infectious disease doctor who knows how to ACT in this situation? There are WHO recommendations on them and it is necessary to act and not in the opinion of subjects who are not thinking in the fight against the epidemic ....

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Oleg1

Why trifle, immediately shoot all infected, and clean Moscow and Leningrad with a vigorous bomb, I understand you correctly?

Do not attribute to me your own nonsense.

Quote: Oleg1

and not according to the opinion of nothing thinking in the fight against the epidemic of subjects ....

Does the WHO recommendation say anything about self-isolation?

Quote: Oleg1

and not according to the opinion of nothing thinking in the fight against the epidemic of subjects ....

Send this remark to Putin.

[tihonmarine]

A considerable percentage of those who, among the hundreds of thousands who returned from abroad, decided not to limit themselves to square meters of their living space, but to "ride around the city, region and country", now makes itself felt.

Well, these are not ordinary citizens of Russia, workers and peasants from the provinces who "plow" 12 hours a day.

[Alexander X]

But I live in an abandoned village. In winter there were 2 people: I was in one house and my neighbor, Kolya, in another ... And now they come in large numbers of "mascots", only with the same village registration. The grandmother's and the grandfather's houses are restoring everything, the fences are being repaired ... And as a result, there is a surge of diseases in the Tver region. Just in time for the end of the incubation period. And, what is not clear to me, since we have “isolated”, then why should the whole gobbler go to see friends and acquaintances? So the "Muskwiches" who came in large numbers are still the same locals, who moved to Moscow for a better life, and now pulled away from there ...

[Maks1995]

What did you want ???

VIPs brought the virus unattended to Moscow from foreign boutiques. Then he dispersed from Moscow to the country.
And, ah, this is such an irresponsible people. Goes into the woods and grills on weekends alone kebabs ....

And about the wandering elite is silent. So, sometimes slips. That Leshchenko sick at the party will go.
"The party was attended by almost the entire Russian elite. They hugged, kissed and danced ..". + at least one Peskov
That little girls will tell about meeting with friends ....

AND? maybe someone else will plant ??? I didn’t hear even a thought about it ....

[Radical]

Official statistics show that the increase in the number of cases per day amounted to more than 2,5 thousand people. And again, the main part is Moscow and the Moscow region.

There is no doubt that Moscow and the region are and have turned into a big dump. Or is there? What are the above "statistical" data talking about? And we have no idea - whether this is data on those who filed complaints, or on those who are already in hospitals, officials starting with the Guarantor, the Prime Minister, and others do not detail these statistics.

A considerable percentage of those who, among the hundreds of thousands who returned from abroad, decided not to limit themselves to square meters of their living space, but to "ride around the city, region and country", now makes itself felt.

And this is generally the most important issue, because of the non-solution of which everything in the country happens! The situation with the virus developed in stages, as elsewhere. March has come. What had to be done? 1. Close, what is now conditionally a state border. 2. To instruct the sanitary and epidemiological service, together with customs and the border service of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation, to meet and check people arriving from abroad, cargo through airport checkpoints, checkpoints at sea and land sections of state borders in order to detect the presence or absence of them infections. 3. The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB, in cooperation with the forces of the Russian Guard, carry out the identification, establishment and provision by the forces of the Sanitary and Epidemiological Services of verification for the presence of COVID
persons arriving from abroad during the period - from January 1 to the present. If infected citizens are found among them, take measures to isolate them for subsequent treatment. These are the measures that top state officials should have taken in order to minimize and eliminate the infection! However, what do we see? Ascertaining the increase in the level of the pandemic. Their useless flashing on TV screens, and soothing talk shows on central channels, like nightingale trills. In principle, it is obvious that the leadership is not ready to act in conditions of the use of chemical, biological, and bacteriological weapons. The entire system of protection against these threats, created in Soviet times, through the efforts of these "managers" fell into disrepair, including healthcare. As a result, it turns out that the actions of a small part of citizens who have realized their "Wishlist" abroad have endangered most of the country's population! And how to react to this?

[Usher]

They wanted it, but all of a sudden they became economists. And they began to whine that they have a business. What got, get.

[Radical]

And yet, in dogon - as I thought, this is what happened: the transfer (self-elimination) of powers to take measures to combat coronavirus to the heads of the regions ended with the accusation of the latter of inaction, negligence, and subsequent punishments! Did anyone doubt that it would be different, that the whole "trick" in this - to place the responsibility on the heads of the regions, and then become the winner? Only it looks like it will not work, there is not enough skill - neither he nor the rest of the melshboha!

[ugrums1961]

Where the coronovirus came from in our country, I think everyone understands from abroad, and it means that vacationers and those citizens who worked there brought it to the country. Well, the question asked itself - where was the quarantine filtration zone near the airports. It wasn’t possible, the Ministry of Finance decided to save money on its own taxpayers in Russian, it was necessary to keep people under surveillance for the entire period of the course of the disease and release them only after 14-16 days. And what did the government bring the citizens with infection from abroad to themselves and sent to places of residence, spreading the infection. He’s a social being, he needs to talk, he needs to buy food, leaving for a long time we all leave the refrigerators empty, that’s the pandemic, and it all started like Italy with small numbers. This was all due to the goons who wanted to warm their belly on the belly the sun and the same goons in the government who misunderstood the warning that we will be even worse than Italy with an undisciplined people.

[Usher]

and if the virus also returns after the "first" pandemic ... again home? ..

Yes! And how do you see, you offer an alternative, that is, to get sick and die? No, I'd rather stay at home. And you die without me))) The author is a provocateur.

[Mihail55]

And where is the zeroing ??? Now no one will pickle! Take power into your own hands! Remove unnecessary rudiment - Duma (fool) and so on ... What is the problem ??? How much can you look into the crystal clear eyes of the main optimizer Golikova ???

[Jurkovs]

In Moscow it was necessary tougher, and in the regions two weeks later. And so they spread a thin layer throughout the country and it turned out as always.

[Ros 56]

So there comes a time when especially gifted, fleeing quarantines, and simply idiots neglecting safety rules, you just need to push on the head, writing a bonus of thousands for 200-300 rubles, so that their stupidity hiccups for a long time, once they have strained their brains. Ours do not understand differently, I have already been convinced more than once in my life.

[Yaik Cossack]

What kind of hard one are you)))) Is it anything that business jets with families of oligarchs, officials and state security generals both flew abroad and are flying now, despite the border being “closed"? Are you taking them to write a bonus too? Or did the prescription not grow?

[Ros 56]

And what, a Cossack can only whip the vodka? If it’s so envious of someone else’s Business jets, do you want to restore justice or is it just whining?

[Yaik Cossack]

Gorilka is for Ukrainians, not Yaitsky Cossacks. However, illiteracy has long become not valor, but valor)))) Although you, most likely, simply reproduce propaganda cliches.
What concerns me is not business jets, but the fact that in our country the elite does not require the execution of laws from themselves, but from ordinary people.
The fact that you began to "poke" me, insult and wag - a classic sign. Rudeness and distortion of the thesis is a sure sign of the absence of sane arguments. However, I assumed nothing new. You are either a stupid person, or, more likely, a guard for a small price

[Ros 56]

In addition to balabolstva and whining, I have not seen anything from your comments. Bye-bye, well, a very gifted talker. .

[Yaik Cossack]

I knew that today you have as many as 11 meaningless comments in the morning. Yesterday there were 3 times probably more. All about Ukrainians and “striped”. The clinical picture of internetus vulgaris propagandonus. Terrible and indefatigable Internet fighter, tempered by keyboard hard work. How I did not immediately guess. Serve further, new epaulets will draw)))))

[Ros 56]

Snot wipe the wonder Cossack sofa. It’s not your near mind that who writes what. Who are you to give estimates, banderlog unfinished. You take an example from the Western media, crowed, and there at least do not dawn. Many of you are so narrow-minded rummaging around in the Internet and everyone is told how and what to do. Without snotty, the sun shines, it’s better to cook your wife’s teachings, maybe there will be more sense, otherwise you’ll be angry and splattering from you. One word banderlog.

[Yaik Cossack]

Your rudeness is some kind of teenage))) let's sketch some more, I will test the volume of your vocabulary. It seems to me that he is already close to exhaustion. It will be boring - I will be interested in you as an entomologist. The Internet is not anonymous at all, is it?

[Vadim237]

There are only a few of these superjets and passengers too - but hundreds of thousands of tourists are spa tourists, of course, who will bring more infection.

[demo]

From the first moment of the beginning of the universal bacchanalia, I had a clear opinion - this is an attempt to look at how people will react to an attempt to lock it in their holes.
The reaction of the people is positive.
Then the people began to see a little and ask - who will feed on vacation?
Many quarantines were perceived as summer pioneer camps, where counselors would feed them, and would redeem and put them to bed.
It turned out that the counselors themselves, with the rations due to them, and the summer shift is itself.

The courtesy and meagerness of power are so obvious that there is no desire to write.
Everything could be much simpler.

There is Sanepidnadzor, there is the Police, there is the Rosgvardiya, there is the Ministry of Emergency Situations, there are a lot of other state squeezers who had to be driven out onto the street with buckets and brushes, with disinfectant sprays, and let the streets, public transport, everything around them be handled. Every day, personal protective equipment - gloves, masks, liquids.
And then you can demand from the population compliance with the rules and orders.

I would skillfully observe how the head of the regional police department with his deputies would wash the stairs of his department.

And in order not to have a negative impression about me, I will say the following.
A day later, I treat the stairwell on my floor with a chlorine-containing solution.
And nothing, the back has not broken.

Our power is brainless and without spine.
Only they can be isolated from the people.
And there too - to reset!
Yes, where are you going?

[Wizzzard]

Quote: Doccor18

1-Emergency mode for 14 days throughout the country ..

Enough, Alexander. What is the emergency mode? Our poor government has been spinning at the navel for a month so that there are no emergencies, no quarantine (I'm afraid to even hint about an emergency - its president should introduce it, but he needs to take on such a responsibility: introduce force majeure with all the consequences in all of Russia?). That is why we have a strange krakozyabla not registered anywhere under the name "Self-isolation"(popularly already referred to as" self-survival "). That is why we have appeals to conscience and common sense (which is also necessary - but much more is needed!) instead of the" can-not "and" who is responsible, incl. and financially. "In addition, all these emergencies and emergencies (mind me!) would mean opening the very egg (!!!). And this is no way.

[magadan72]

Maybe they wanted it better, but stupidity and incompetence rolls over: the Far East - there are still no masks on sale or maybe there are somewhere ... (where no one knows ...) Alcohol and antiseptics are not for sale. I used Aeroflot, it’s wild and stupid at all ... A plane Vladivostok-Khabarovsk: No one measured the temperature on departure from the airport. Landing in Khabarovsk-riot police, masked doctors, police thermosensors with video beauty !!! It seems that everything is without temperature ... the same thing when you arrive in Magadan. And IF THERE WOULD BE ONE WITH TEMPERATURE !? Good isolation of all passengers is required ... Which is much more expensive than the hospitalization of one in Vladivostok !!!! Why not check before departure !!! ??? Different regions are other people's problems? Do we not have a single country, an all-Russian budget, the Ministry of Emergencies, MINISTRY OF HEALTH!? The kings rule? My hut is on the edge, there is no interest in other people's problems!? ...

[olimpiada15]

Let's see who is to blame for the spread of the coronovirus?
The infection was brought mainly from Europe. The elite and the real middle class can afford trips, of which there are not many, these are not people with an income of 17 thousand at all. This is a small part of the population. First of all, the elite became the peddler, who spread the infection to airport workers, parties, and most importantly, among its many service staff. They are surrounded by numerous security guards in houses, apartments, offices, a maid cleaning, cooking, employees of numerous beauty salons, etc. etc. The service staff has families, friends, and off we go. The service carried the infection to retail outlets, in transport. Hence the conclusion. The returning elite had to be isolated, and this isolation should not be in the house where they would fill up the attendants, but in medical facilities so that there was no contact with other people .. Someone had to understand the danger of the situation, that in Moscow there would be a rapid spread of the virus and take action. It was necessary to isolate Moscow, not to admit and not to let out. But there’s no one to put their place in, no one decree is for them, so we have a swift spread of infection throughout the country. And today I read the news and eyes on the forehead. Million passes were issued, and with so few, give out the number of inhabitants, let everyone spread the infection.

[Vadim237]

However, we have how many elites — more than 25 million people fly abroad every year.

[seacap]

It is interesting why our media, the leading propagandists, first of all, without jumping out of their pants and choking with saliva with delight, the leading estate, etc., do not yell about the highest achievements unattainable to the whole decaying west, a slurred organization led by the deserved adventurer of all Russia, a red-headed swindler with a former prime minister who has successfully mastered budget money for decades in the amount commensurate with the budget of an average developed republic? Where are our breakthrough discoveries, judging by the spent amounts, we are already building a base on Mars and have solved all the problems on Earth, but it seems again for others and not for our country and long-suffering people.

[Oleg1]

Quote: olimpiada15

Let's see who is to blame for the spread of the coronovirus?
The infection was brought mainly from Europe. The elite and the real middle class can afford trips, of which there are not many, these are not people with an income of 17 thousand at all. This is a small part of the population. First of all, the elite became the peddler, who spread the infection to airport workers, parties, and most importantly, among its many service staff. They are surrounded by numerous security guards in houses, apartments, offices, a maid cleaning, cooking, employees of numerous beauty salons, etc. etc. The service staff has families, friends, and off we go. The service carried the infection to retail outlets, in transport. Hence the conclusion. The returning elite had to be isolated, and this isolation should not be in the house where they would fill up the attendants, but in medical facilities so that there was no contact with other people .. Someone had to understand the danger of the situation, that in Moscow there would be a rapid spread of the virus and take action. It was necessary to isolate Moscow, not to admit and not to let out. But there’s no one to put their place in, no one decree is for them, so we have a swift spread of infection throughout the country. And today I read the news and eyes on the forehead. Million passes were issued, and with so few, give out the number of inhabitants, let everyone spread the infection.

Yes, put machine guns and shoot everyone! Do you like to shoot children and the elderly?

[Oleg1]

There are no more questions due to the author’s knowledge of neither legislation + emergency plans, nor sanitary requirements, nor WHO recommendations on coronovirus. But in general, an extremely painful impression on the level of the author ....

[roofing hedgehog]

it’s not even a matter of this virus, the matter is the absence of reasonable decisions of our leaders and the direct mockery of us, their diligent lowering of our income level to complete impoverishment .. well, but a virus, just banning the sale of masks can be equated to eliminating bomb shelters during the bombing ..

[Oleg1]

Quote: roofing hedgehog

it’s not even a matter of this virus, the matter is the absence of reasonable decisions of our leaders and the direct mockery of us, their diligent lowering of our income level to complete impoverishment .. well, but a virus, just banning the sale of masks can be equated to eliminating bomb shelters during the bombing ..

Not right action? Are you familiar with WHO recommendations, rules and plans for behavior (liquidation) of biomedical emergencies? I doubt it deeply! Otherwise, you would not write this dope!

Quote: roofing hedgehog

one ban on the sale of masks can be equated to the elimination of bomb shelters during the bombing ..

Can I confirm? Order number, orders? With a link to official portals? The day before yesterday I went to the pharmacy, bought 10 pieces. If there is no confirmation, I will consider you either a provocateur or a liar!

[Last centurion]

Well, for example, really sick people are quarantined in a high-rise building, and what's next? in a high-rise building is not general ventilation? not common sewage? not a common basement where all of us know how leakproof pipes lead and where it’s warm and damp and not only cats live. ? and pedestrians are not clumsy in Russia running through shit-houses? Are there any sewage treatment plants on all issues of collectors? what is the point of all? 42?

[Oleg1]

Quote: Last centurion

Well, for example, really sick people are quarantined in a high-rise building, and what's next? in a high-rise building is not general ventilation? not common sewage? not a common basement where all of us know how leakproof pipes lead and where it’s warm and damp and not only cats live. ? and pedestrians are not clumsy in Russia running through shit-houses? Are there any sewage treatment plants on all issues of collectors? what is the point of all? 42?

Are you an infectious disease specialist? Do you know the survivability of the virus in the environment? Do you know in what periods after infection a person is dangerous to others? All the time, not all the time? You are a doctor? And then why call for hermetic isolation of patients? WHO issued recommendations on what measures to take, they are being implemented ...

[Last centurion]

newspaper le monde. health section. time 19.04.20/17/18 time 4:XNUMX there you can read about water and about the coronavirus and about XNUMX water withdrawals in France. thought can develop ...

[VicktorVR]

It is strange that people do not understand some simple things. There is a risk of getting infected while walking with the dog, and in the subway, and in the restaurant, and in the shop, and in the store, and in the pharmacy, and in the beauty salon. But the justification for this risk is different in all these places. And if you need to walk the dog, you need to go to work, and you can’t live without medicine and food, then you can live for years without shops and restaurants.

[andrew42]

So far, instead of state countermeasures to the pandemic, there are some curves of antics of impotent monetarists. Indeed, Moscow with its suburbs should have been tightly blocked from the entire country 1,5 months ago, an emergency regime and a curfew with military patrols had to be introduced, and the state distribution of provisions and medicines among the population had to be organized. And also to prepare for similar regimes in St. Petersburg and another 2-3 million. Instead, there is a curve of "self-isolation of all Russia" with the collapse of the consumer sector economy, disruption of production orders, layoffs of workers or cut wages - without any guarantees of survival. For that, Mishustin's cabinet "bought" it from Gref and Co. for budget money. the once privatized Sberbank - the budget is not a pity for that - and Gref congratulated the Russians on the "people's" bank (apparently now we, lucky girls, have to wait for 3% of the mortgage, but this is hardly).

[turbris]

Now no one can say anything concrete about the pandemic in the world, even the Chinese, and the author demands not to use the words "likely" and "presumably". Self-isolation has been declared, the situation is different in different regions, therefore, different measures are being taken, in my opinion, a completely adequate reaction. What specific explanations does the author ask for when this will all end? Yes, no one knows, and how events will develop is also very difficult to assume, maybe there will be a second wave, maybe not, what will happen to the economy - it is already clear that there is nothing good, what will we do? As always after the war - to restore the destroyed.

[Oleg1]

Quote: andrew42

So far, instead of state countermeasures to the pandemic, there are some curves of antics of impotent monetarists. Indeed, Moscow with its suburbs should have been tightly blocked from the entire country 1,5 months ago, an emergency regime and a curfew with military patrols had to be introduced, and the state distribution of provisions and medicines among the population had to be organized. And also to prepare for similar regimes in St. Petersburg and another 2-3 million. Instead, there is a curve of "self-isolation of all Russia" with the collapse of the consumer sector economy, disruption of production orders, layoffs of workers or cut wages - without any guarantees of survival. For that, Mishustin's cabinet "bought" it from Gref and Co. for budget money. the once privatized Sberbank - the budget is not a pity for that - and Gref congratulated the Russians on the "people's" bank (apparently now we, lucky girls, have to wait for 3% of the mortgage, but this is hardly).

“Indeed, Moscow and its suburbs should have been tightly blocked from the entire country 1,5 months ago, a state of emergency and a curfew with military patrols should have been introduced, and state distribution of provisions and medicines should have been organized among the population.”
And collapse the economy 1,5 months ago? Right!
“introduce a state of emergency and a curfew with military patrols,” and who comes out of the house to shoot?
But the WHO does not recommend this... who are they and what do they understand in the fight against coronavirus? Right?
And yes, the emergency regime does not provide for such a measure as a curfew with military patrols...
1 for suggestions... like a completely illiterate....

[Oleg1]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Oleg1

Why trifle, immediately shoot all infected, and clean Moscow and Leningrad with a vigorous bomb, I understand you correctly?

Do not attribute to me your own nonsense.

Quote: Oleg1

and not according to the opinion of nothing thinking in the fight against the epidemic of subjects ....

Does the WHO recommendation say anything about self-isolation?

Quote: Oleg1

and not according to the opinion of nothing thinking in the fight against the epidemic of subjects ....

Send this remark to Putin.

1. Try to read these WHO recommendations and then you won’t write nonsense...
2. “Send this remark to Putin.” So this is what it’s all about: we’re not fighting the coronavirus, but Putin.... With Nenki or what?
3. Since you call for the isolation of Moscow, does this mean that you also need to be isolated in the same way, because you have a lot of crowns in your neck....