S-400 made a march throw of 2 thousand kilometers and hit targets

The servicemen of the air defense regiment of the Leningrad Air Defense Association were involved in one of the stages of the exercises in southern Russia. They successfully hit targets imitating a powerful enemy missile strike.

This was reported by the press center of the Western Military District.

A massive missile strike from the air was reflected by the S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile systems. In the attack, target missiles were used that imitated various existing and prospective means of defeating a potential enemy. All of them were successfully identified and destroyed.

The exercises were held at the Ashuluk training ground, located in the Astrakhan region, where anti-aircraft missile calculations arrived from the north-western part of the country, having made a march lasting more than two thousand kilometers. Having overcome this distance, the air defense calculations took up combat duty in an unfamiliar area, where they successfully repelled an enemy air attack.

The S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile system is a medium and long-range air defense system. The system is designed to defeat enemy ballistic and aerodynamic targets. Missile systems are capable of moving off-road and deploying from traveling to combat positions for five minutes.

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[Mik13]

The exercises were held at the Ashuluk training ground, located in the Astrakhan region, where anti-aircraft missile calculations arrived from the north-western part of the country, having made a march of more than two thousand kilometers.

And exactly the march was committed? Or did you work along the way by rail?
And then the same BTR-80 from the photo has a resource before overhaul in mileage - 10000 km. To spend 20% of the resource for the equipment of the battle group is somehow irrational.

[kit88]

Why would they march 2000 km on their own? How long will they travel? Month. Or more. Who needs such "efficiency"?
There are railway roads for this.

[Mik13]

Quote: kit88

Why would they march 2000 km on their own? How long will they travel? Month. Or more. Who needs such "efficiency"?
There are railway roads for this.

Well, the marching speed of the column of wheeled vehicles is 30 km / h. At 10 hours you can get there in a week. If you hurry, you can do it faster. The question remains - why?

However, in the original source of the news - on the website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation - this is exactly what it says - "made a march." Of course, this may turn out to be the famous corporate culture of the press service of the RF Ministry of Defense, but ...

[Angry]

Oh guys. As if you were not serving. 500 km per day is the norm for wheeled vehicles, 300 for tanks. It is clear that there were interchangeable crews of mechanical drives. From Crimea to the Kherson region overnight arrived. How many miles do you calculate?

[Navat]

It turns out interesting: on the exercises S-300 and S-400 are super successful, and in real life - NOTHING. Zilch...

[skazochnik]

[quote] [From Crimea to the Kherson region overnight arrived.
Well, so-so example in my opinion. You can get there in half an hour, considering that these regions are neighboring
quote]

[Michael67]

The main thing is that we are doing business.
They told, mind you, not about the rating "5" for the drill review, but about the transfer to 2000 km and successful shooting - "Target missiles were used in the attack, imitating various existing and promising weapons ... All of them were successfully identified and destroyed ". This is where the emphasis should be placed.

[Mastodon]

Quote: Mik13

And exactly the march was committed?

Probably yes ! Otherwise, it makes no sense ..
The S-400 check was carried out .. One thing is in the hospital, and another after such a march-off-road throw, etc. Well done! And most importantly, they confirmed the reliability, because there is a complex electronics and not every one can withstand shaking .. Well done!

[ccsr]

Quote: Mastodon

One thing in a hospital, and another after such a march-off-road throw, etc. Well done! And most importantly, they confirmed the reliability, because there is a complex electronics and not every one can withstand shaking.

This is what military acceptance deals with when it conducts the entire test cycle when creating a weapon model, and then sometimes a sample from a series is tested. Sending military equipment on their own for 2000 km in peacetime is simply a war crime, if only because the resource of this equipment is spent unreasonably, and besides, huge financial resources are spent on such marches. I’m not even talking about such trifles as road blocking and traffic jams that will occur necessarily, broken roads or accidents involving military equipment, which is why I think it's simply a foolishness to send expensive equipment under their own power. Most likely, the article incorrectly reflected the process of this march - they were simply transported 2000 km along the railway, and they approached the final point on their own, unloading at the nearest station. This has always been the case with smart military men during the Soviet era.

[ccsr]

Quote: Vladimir16

Gagging is sitting on an ass.
Do you remember Suvorov?

Suvorov did not have such equipment that is now in service - do not engage in cheap fraud, nodding to the authorities.

Quote: Vladimir16

The technique is not capable of such movements. Fuck is not needed in real hostilities.

The technique is capable of what is laid in it, but to ruin it with unnecessary movements is possible only not from a big mind. Yes, and it is costly, and the effectiveness of such movements on their own is simply zero.

Quote: Vladimir16

So, that your prizes in sitting on the ass in the heat for the sake of preserving sophisticated equipment, send the army sofa.

We have a Strategic Missile Forces for a long time sitting on the train..e by your definition, and the benefits of them more than all other types of armed forces combined.

Quote: Vladimir16

Moreover, complex equipment in the form of a computer is the main weapon of this army.

You are a bright representative of these "troops", and apparently never worked on military equipment, but you undertake to judge how it should be operated.

[Andobor]

Quote: Mik13

And exactly the march was committed?

Yes, some misunderstandings, duration with a length of beguiled, and how - under its own power?

[Sergey Valov]

Normal routine practice. In 1976, I similarly went to shoot from the Moscow region. 70 km on its own, then three days on the railway, a week there and back.

[Mik13]

Quote: Sergey Valov

Normal routine practice. In 1976, I similarly went to shoot from the Moscow region. 70 km on its own, then three days on the railway, a week there and back.

So the fact of the matter is that in the article (and in the original source too) there is nothing about railway. It was written about the march for 2000 km. Which is very strange for such a technique. Actually, even ordinary fur. to drive a brigade / regiment under its own power for 2000 km without extreme necessity is a dream of reason ... And here is air defense.

[grandfather_Kostya]

So the fact of the matter is that in the article (and in the original source too) there is nothing about railway.

Apparently, due to the scale of the country, moving along the railway in one bottle with the march on its own is already meant as "by itself."

[Sergey Valov]

Most likely, we have already experienced a decline in professionalism among journalists or the army service. Well, they do not know the terminology, write more colorful, more often causing laughter among professionals and perplexity among couch experts.

[svp67]

Quote: Mik13

And exactly the march was committed? Or did you work along the way by rail?

March, march - "in a combined way". In this case, using rail transport

[rocket757]

At the same time, Russian Railways helped, logistics "trained"!
Not the season, and the quarantine besides, otherwise the "fishermen" would already brag about where and whom they saw.
And so ... well, the technology went and went where it was needed.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: svp67

March, march - "in a combined way". In this case, using rail transport

Yeah ... subtleties of military terminology. You can still remember about landing by landing.

[svp67]

Quote: Alexey RA

Yeah ... subtleties of military terminology.

She is the most. Believe any march that under your own power, that combined is a very complex event, in terms of organization. And the fact that the unit was able to make a march of 2000 km is a great practice for fighters.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: svp67

Believe any march that under your own power, that combined is a very complex event, in terms of organization.

I readily believe. I will never forget the circus when calculating the march when changing positions - then "congratulations, under you the bridge failed"then"Well, comrade student, decide - will you raise the bridge, or cut the antenna post?"then"where did you drive the convoy ?! this is not the road, this is pro-se-ka!". Personally, it turned out that when the head of the column was already entering a new position, the tail was still on the old firing point (well, I was mistaken by an order of magnitude, which is already there).
And this is still in the approximation of 100% serviceability of the equipment and 100% training l / s.

[ccsr]

Quote: svp67

And the fact that the unit was able to make a march of 2000 km is a great practice for fighters.

Can you name where and when you drove equipment and weapons under their own power for 2000 km in Soviet times? It’s just interesting for me to understand why they suddenly thought that organizing a 2000 km march for military equipment on the roads of the country is as simple as organizing a 500 km march "in a circle" for car drivers after graduation. It will take a lot of money to repair equipment after such a march, and not only the moving part, but also what is in the kungs.

[svp67]

Quote: ccsr

Can you name where and when for 2000 km they drove under their own power equipment and weapons in Soviet times?

Can you name where I wrote here about the 2000 km march "on its own"?

[ccsr]

Quote: svp67

Can you name where I wrote here about the 2000 km march "on its own"?

Here is where you indicate "about excellent practice for fighters":

And that unit was able to make a march for 2000 km, this is a great practice for fighters.

Or how do you understand, based on the written?
By the way, in Soviet times and traveled long distances - but to the railway. transport, not a march. We made the march to the loading station — we passed it.

[svp67]

Quote: ccsr

Here is where you indicate "about excellent practice for fighters":

Of course, make part of the march on your own, load and unload the military echelon, transport it by echelon, and enter the region. This is all practice, great practice. This is an experience that you won’t get in class.

Quote: ccsr

By the way, in Soviet times and traveled long distances - but to the railway. transport, not a march. We made the march to the loading station — we passed it.

Did you go through the "combined method"? when part of the way is under its own power, part by rail, part by air or water?
Yes, you asked when in 2000 they drove earlier, in 1971 a battalion of tanks drove 12 km, without transportation, all under their own power.

[ccsr]

Quote: svp67

Of course, make part of the march on your own, load and unload the military echelon, transport it by echelon, and enter the region.

Generally, air defense equipment was not transported over such distances - I know this very well from my "neighbors". They were removed from duty every two years, departed from the Moscow region to the training ground near Astrakhan, where they fired at targets from the range equipment on the spot, received an assessment and solemnly returned to the unit, and again became on duty.

[Sergey Valov]

It depends on what technique. The S-25 is stationary, only the personnel rode there, and all the others rode with their equipment, but even that did not take all, but the necessary minimum. For example, we drove one PU, one TZM. In principle, we could not take everything, for the division was cropped (about a third of the composition of the wartime), although there were enough people for combat duty.

[Mik13]

Quote: svp67

Yes, you asked when in 2000 they drove earlier, in 1971 a battalion of tanks drove 12 km, without transportation, all under their own power.

I recommend a little cut sturgeon. About an order of magnitude.
In 1971 there were no tanks with such a resource from the word at all. Tanks don't live that much.
Yes, but did the TO-1 and TO-2 tanks on the go? During the march?

Such runs — until they are completely worn out — are made by tank testers to determine the frequency of maintenance and service life. It takes months. Even a simple calculation says that such a march of the battalion will take 120 days (4 months). This is if you go seven days a week ...
And most importantly - why?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Alexey RA

You can also remember about landing in a landing way.

Already irrelevant, for exotic added. At recent exercises in the Crimea, the Novorossiysk landing was transferred by sea to the BDK - messengers landed from them.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Paranoid50

At recent exercises in the Crimea, the Novorossiysk landing was transferred by sea to the BDK - messengers landed from them.

They can. This is the same division that arrived on the 08.08.08 war by rail. Railway troops - airborne troops.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Alexey RA

Railway troops - airborne troops.

So close to horse-diving units from delusional ukro-visions.
On the other hand, it’s okay if it helps to complete the combat mission in the shortest possible time. Just a little toad strangled about the fact that the "competing firm" squeezes transport.

[Spektr]

And you don’t take transport aviation?

[ccsr]

Quote: svp67

March, march - "in a combined way".

The title of the article indicates that it was a march throw:

S-400 made a march throw of 2 thousand kilometers and hit the targets

From military science:

A march is a rapid movement of units of the ground forces over a small distance in order to fulfill a previously assigned or suddenly arisen combat mission. A march roll is usually done on foot at an accelerated pace, with alternating walking and running. In winter, a march can be performed on skis.

[ccsr]

Quote: Mik13

And exactly the march was committed? Or did you work along the way by rail?

Something tells me that the author is simply not in the know, because hardly anyone would allow such a march of wheeled and tracked vehicles in their right mind. Even in Soviet times, when they did not spare money for military training, the country's air defense regiments decreased to the training grounds on the railway. transport, and it was natural.

Quote: Mik13

. To spend 20% of the resource for the equipment of the battle group is somehow irrational.

Not that it is not rational, but a direct violation of the orders of the Ministry of Defense regarding the planning and use of the annual resource.
Something in this information is not entirely accurate - I think so.

[svp67]

Quote: ccsr

Even in Soviet times, when they did not spare money for military training, the country's air defense regiments decreased to the training grounds on the railway. transport, and it was natural.

And they marched in a "combined way"

[Sergey Valov]

“Even in Soviet times, when they did not spare money for military training,” you can’t even imagine how little we did in combat training in the mid-70s. They really didn’t know how to fight. But this is the Ministry of Defense, ZRV.

[ccsr]

Quote: Sergey Valov

You can’t even imagine how little we did in combat training in the mid-70s. They really didn’t know how to fight. But this is the Ministry of Defense, ZRV.

It was in the mid-seventies that I first encountered an air defense regiment in the Moscow region - they were "neighbors", and I knew some of the officers from this unit. Later I saw a lot of things in the army, but I will say the only thing - in peacetime, no one worked so hard with the ground as these air defense regiments, which were superior to all others in terms of the severity of service. During one week, they were raised several times on the BATTLE Alert, as soon as some NATO strategic bomber flew to our borders. And they ran to the position in such a way that many of the servicemen never dreamed of, although the duty shift was there for several days without getting out. My brother served as an urgent in the country's air defense in Crimea - so they only did there that they ran to the position, because it was the country's front line, and American planes constantly flew over the Black Sea. In general, I would not wish anyone to serve in a Soviet-style air defense unit - it was a very difficult service. And so someone who, and they studied military affairs better than others - I have such an impression.

[Sergey Valov]

We had alarms constantly, once a week - for sure. So what? He ran up, turned on the station (I was an operator on the P-15), reported, sat at the screen, hang up. True, sometimes, they sat in the station for 5-7 hours, sat stupidly. And now, in combat training, no one taught to read targets, a senior officer explained a couple of times, to which I replaced everything. Collapse - deploying the station was not taught, in principle, when it was required, we completely calculated three hours instead of the prescribed 15-20 minutes, worked from the network, the gas unit was launched a couple of times in two years. Startups learned to charge PU well once a month. His driver TZM was one in five cars. I don’t know how guidance operators worked, nor have I ever seen. But on their own for two summer seasons they built an underground shelter for equipment. In winter, the whole division fought with snow, the territory was large and only shovels from mechanization. Due to the small number of rank-and-file staff, two or two days later went to the outfit, i.e. actually spent half the entire service in outfits.
That's who the real melancholy was for the officers, because we were constantly on combat duty, and the personnel regularly broke equipment.
And a cherry on the cake - in two years, each soldier made six shots from the SCS. No one knew how to handle machine guns in service, they were only cleaned.
About air defense, and his father was a lieutenant colonel and told a lot, generally scary to talk.
He served on the S-125 in 1975 - 1977. in outskirts of Moscow.

[ccsr]

Quote: Sergey Valov

He served on the S-125 in 1975 - 1977. in outskirts of Moscow.

At that time, I also saw the service of the air defense regiment on the second concrete block of the Moscow Region - p. Mescherino-1. And there everything was not at all as you describe. Although I confess all the intricacies of their service, I did not know, but I talked with the young officers of this regiment, and I knew something from their words.
By the way, here is a story from those years:

So, on one of the days off in the seventies of the last century, a certain mushroom picker, a middle-aged man, wandering around the lands of Moscow Region, saw a barbed wire, and, having decided that since no one was walking there, then there were probably plenty of mushrooms behind it, and nothing he didn’t think smarter, crawled under the fence, deciding that he was waiting for luck. But good luck did not follow, because it was the position of one of the Moscow air defense regiments (our garrison neighbors), located on the second "concrete road", and an alert watchman, according to the instructions, detained the unlucky mushroom picker, laying him on the ground until the distributor arrived, for which apparently subsequently received encouragement. Then everything went according to the instructions, the detainee was escorted to the guardhouse, and then they brought him to the headquarters, handing over to the duty officer all the trouble in filling out the incident. And here the fun began, because the detainee did not have any documents, since in Soviet times no one usually carried them with him, and it was not possible to identify the mushroom picker.

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[Sergey Valov]

This is a little different. I do not claim that everywhere it was as I wrote, but with us it was just that.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Sergey Valov

You can’t even imagine how little we did in combat training in the mid-70s. They really didn’t know how to fight. But this is the Ministry of Defense, ZRV.

Quote: ccsr

Then I saw a lot of things in the army, but I’ll say the only thing - in peacetime, no one was so hard at work as the air defense regiments, which excelled everyone else in terms of service.

Sunday was Air Defense Day. Served C-25, MO, 73-75.
The week was: 1-2 alarms, 1 day (before lunch) military work in chemical protection and gas masks, 1-2 times on guard .... Once a year, combat firing by a consolidated crew in Kopyar near Volgograd. We got to cars and railway by a military echelon. "Chemists" (security and chemical protection) went to their landfill.

[ccsr]

Quote: There was a mammoth

A week was: 1-2 alarms, 1 day (before lunch) military work in chemical protection and gas masks, 1-2 times on guard ...

That was exactly how it was - I myself have seen this more than once, which is why I can say that you will not envy them, especially if you serve at a stationary facility.

[Doccor18]

March on hundreds and especially thousands of kilometers. in itself is a severe test for technology and an invaluable experience for personnel. And if at the end of the march there’s also shooting, then this is just a great training.

[mvg]

What's the point? Take a ride in the BB, push the buttons and "report". And in Syria, how objects were destroyed ... things are still there. Where is the imitation of the database?
PS: It was very reminiscent of how Kuznetsov worked out air defense / missile defense alone. But the press writes boiling water ...

[Wolf]

BRAVO !!! Brothers must prepare. Now we need intensive preparation itself so that everything works like a clock on the Kremlin towers in Moscow! These hours were prepared by the very first master himself and he was not from Switzerland! ;) :) :)

[geon]

So, for reference: from Moscow to Berlin 1814,9 km

[Mastodon]

Quote: geoan

So, for reference: from Moscow to Berlin 1814,9 km

What are you hinting at gosh ? Oh, you are insightful .. Just quiet !!!!
Otherwise, "Russian threats" and other screams will start again

[Kuzmitsky]

And they did a march for two thousand km - in order to be sure to reach it when needed.

[Mastodon]

Quote: Kuzmitsky

And they did a march for two thousand km - in order to be sure to reach it when needed.

We checked and everything works ... And this is the main thing Serge!
We will not die alive .. Good luck ..

[Keeping]

According to the legend of the exercises, UAVs of a potential enemy intruded into the airspace of the Russian Federation.
Air defense forces and means were aimed at suppressing border violators.
After marching 2.000 km. and approaching the enemy at the distance of a possible strike, air defense calculations shot down a quadrocopter ...

[cat Rusich]

My father served as a driver on an "urgent", made a 500 km march, drove on public roads during the day, outside the city it was normal, then there were few cars, but in the city you gape a little - cars "will break the column." On one "special road" lined with concrete slabs there was (maybe it still is) a sign "Sharp turn" - and the steering wheel just needs to be turned a little, you can see a very dimensional technique should have passed there.