The characteristics of the Kozak-2M1 armored vehicle, put into service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, have been clarified

The information on the adoption of the APU of the armored army vehicle “Kazak-2M1” (in the Ukrainian-language version - “Kozak-2M1”) was confirmed. This armored vehicle is being created at the NPP Praktika factory in Kiev.

After taking the armored car into service with the APU, the manufacturer specified some of the tactical and technical characteristics of this armored car.

It is noted that the protection of “Kozak-2M1” meets the “NATO standards”. In this case, “NATO standards” means STANAG 4569 level 2, which allows the crew to be protected from small arms weapons, as well as level 2 - for mine protection.

The APU spoke about the fact that during the tests, which lasted from 2018, the armored car "showed itself on the good side." So, it is noted that he confirmed his operational characteristics during shelling and bombings. However, the manufacturer does not provide stories about such tests.

The Kozak-2M1 4x4 armored car is equipped with a 5,9 liter engine with a power of 280 hp and has a weight of 14 thousand kg. The engine uses diesel fuel.

All weapons "Kozak-2M1" - machine gun NSV 12,7 mm caliber. It is installed in a protected turret, providing, as claimed, "aimed fire at a distance of up to 2 km."

The armored car is designed for 2 crew members and 6 fighters in the airborne squad.

Meanwhile, in Ukraine, they believe that now a pickup version of this army vehicle is also needed, which will make it possible to use, for example, anti-aircraft installations and automatic grenade launchers.

Comments

[svp67]

The machine does not look bad, let's see what operation in the troops will show and agree that the "pickup" version will not be superfluous.

[Finches]

I am constantly tormented by the question - is the accent on the letter "o" - Kozak or is it all the same - Kozak 2M1? How will it be right on the original Move? It seems to me - at the first syllable - it sounds more brutal! The very name of the car in this case leads to a voroga uzhOs!

[svp67]

Quote: Finches

How correctly on the primordially correct mov will be?

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Quote: Finches

Kozak

[Finches]

Thank you!

[Snigir]

More correct Kozak
http://sum.in.ua/s/kozak

[Cruel beaver]

But don’t stress the word, but still another bunch in the water ..... Hohlostan, however ...

[Dmitry Donskoy]

But what does the appearance have to do with it? This is not a beauty contest for military vehicles. For me, let it be scary, but safe and useful for personnel.

[svp67]

Quote: Dmitry Donskoy

Yes, what does the appearance have to do with it?

Well, don’t tell me, the view does matter.

Quote: Dmitry Donskoy

For me, so let it be scary, but safe and useful for personnel.

I agree, but if it’s also pleasant in appearance, then actually ...

[Genry]

Quote: Dmitry Donskoy

For me, so let it be scary, but safe and useful for personnel.

From the article:

In this case, the "NATO standards" means STANAG 4569 level 2, which allows to protect the crew from small arms, as well as level 2 - for mine protection.

From Wiki:

Level 2

bulletproof protection: a bullet of bz armor-piercing incendiary cartridge 7,62mm x 39 at a distance of 30 meters at a meeting speed of 695 m / s
bullet approach angle (direction): 360 ° (round)
anti-fragmentation protection: detonation of 155 mm high-explosive fragmentation shell at a distance of 80 m
mine protection: detonation of a high-explosive anti-tank mine (charge mass 6 kg BB):
2а - undermining a mine from a push action when hitting a wheel or a caterpillar
2b - mine detonation under the bottom.

And it turns out that he is shot from a weapon with a cartridge of 7,62x54mm and 7,62x51mm - this is the SVD rifle and machine guns of the PKM family and .....

[Insurgent]

The Kozak-2M1 4x4 armored car is equipped with a 5,9 liter engine with a power of 280 hp and has a weight of 14 thousand kg. The engine uses diesel fuel.

Yeah ... A ton (or "about") is heavier than the BMP-1, and the engine, almost comparable in power but different in displacement: 280hp, 5,9 liters versus 300 (6-cylinder UTD-20 with a volume of 15,9 liters) for a “kopeck” "...

[svp67]

Quote: Insurgent

280hp, 5,9 liters versus 300 (6-cylinder UTD-20 with a volume of 15,9 liters) at a "penny" ...

Turbines are doing wonders right now ...

[Grigory_45]

Quote: svp67

Turbines do wonders right now

Yes, not that ..

The Iveco diesel engine with a capacity of 250 liters was installed on the first demonstration model of the armored car. with., the following cars installed Iveco turbo diesel with a capacity of 279 liters. with

the turbine gives an increase in power by 20 percent. And drags a whole bunch of problems.

[dvina71]

Quote: Gregory_45

And drags a whole bunch of problems.

Absolutely none. The entire modern diesel truck fleet with turbines and coolers.
Two ... pressurization aligns the maximum torque shelf. Simply put, naturally aspirated, in order to get maximum thrust, the engine needs to be untwisted. With supercharging, the maximum torque starts at lower revolutions, and in itself is higher on the lower than the aspirated.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: dvina71

And drags a whole bunch of problems.

Absolutely no

1. the need for intercooler
2. Larger piston loads, lower engine life in general
3. the need to use better fuel and lubricants (which is somehow not very good for a military machine)
4. Greater complexity and complexity of maintenance and repair (which is also not a plus for a military machine)

yes, the turbine allows you to somewhat equalize and reduce the speed at which the internal combustion engine reaches max. moment, but not as much as you paint. At low revs, the turbine does not work at all (the exhaust gas power is not enough to spin it up). The turbine spinning takes time, a "turbine" appears (the acceleration dynamics are inferior to that of the atmospheric). Therefore, some are perverted, like. for example, on a Leclerc diesel engine, putting a separate drive on the turbine

Therefore, for all its merits, the turbine is not a kind of wunderwaffe without drawbacks, which adds power "for free".

[dvina71]

Quote: Gregory_45

Therefore, for all its merits, the turbine is not a kind of wunderwaffe without drawbacks, which adds power "for free".

I would argue with you .. t.s on the fingers .. But I see no point in this. There is a practice.
In practice, injection is now put wherever possible .. Even Rena Arkona 1.3D turbocharged.
If you want .. I’ll drop you a manul on a Volvo TD or D engine, with engine oil classes.? For TD102 according to API CC..a for D..this are the engines of the second half of the 90s (FH) .. CD ...
So that with oil, too, by ..
At the same time, gasoline passenger engines require a higher class of oil ... and naturally aspirated.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: dvina71

I would argue with you

if you decide to dispute the obvious and well-known flaws of the turbine, then there is simply nothing to talk with you about.

[dvina71]

Quote: Gregory_45

if you decide to challenge the obvious and well-known flaws of the turbine

you know .. then you need to discuss the shortcomings of each engine ICU .. the water pump collapses and the engine boils, the muffler, and even more the catalyst, they strangle the engine and increase consumption, the generator eats up some of the motor energy. The air filter reduces the filling coefficient, and accordingly the power, length and shape the intake manifold is selected for revolutions slightly above average, at the remaining revolutions it also reduces the engine performance characteristics .. camshaft cam shapes are selected for optimal engine revolutions, at revolutions higher or lower, such timing phases are not effective .. And here the turbine .. which makes the filling coefficient 1 or higher at the smallest working speed ... the only unit .. of all those listed by me, which improves the performance of ICEs ... without requiring serious processing of ICEs.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: dvina71

then we need to discuss the shortcomings of each ICE unit

no, don't. For there is a comparison of two engines - aspirated and turbocharged, which all of your listed systems have. The emphasis should be on differences. Or have you already forgotten where the discussion started?

Quote: dvina71

the only unit .. of all those listed by me, which improves the performance of ICEs ... without requiring serious processing of ICEs.

here you are wrong. Or do you think that it is enough to put a turbine on the aspirated one - and voila? You will get nothing but a characteristic sound, but coolly reduce the engine resource.
A turbocharged motor, with a competent approach, requires changes - at least a piston reinforcement and a more serious cooling system (turbocharged motors are more heat-stressed, they can’t even be stopped immediately, you need to let it idle)

The resume is such that the turbine has its drawbacks, and is not a free application for increasing power. It's silly to argue with that, don’t you?

[dvina71]

Quote: Gregory_45

Or do you think that it is enough to put a turbine on the aspirated one - and voila?

Yes .. D-245 is obtained from d-240 just by adding a turbine. I had a Zubrenok .. so there from the factory there was a motor with 4 ring pistons .. if you know what I mean ..
Yes ... and the dual-fuel injection pump. There was not even a cooler. So that just installing a turbine on an aspirated system gives a significant increase in performance characteristics.
News from the fields ..

[dvina71]

Quote: Gregory_45

e is a free application to increase power.

Free only cheese .. in a mousetrap. But the turbocharging effect quickly compensates for these costs.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Insurgent

A ton (or "about") is heavier than the BMP-1, and the engine, almost comparable in power but different in displacement: 280hp, 5,9 liters versus 300 (6-cylinder UTD-20 with a volume of 15,9 liters) for a “kopeck” "...

Larger liter power allows you to have a more compact engine, but also has its drawbacks. In addition, the UTD is multi-fuel. I doubt that the Iveco turbodiesel boasts the same.

Well, the fact that the power is lower - and the losses in the wheel mover are lower than in the caterpillar

[dvina71]

Quote: Genry

shoots from a weapon with a cartridge

And 7.62x39 shoots. Stanag provides for less than 50% of penetration.

[Grits]

Quote: Dmitry Donskoy

This is not a beauty contest for military vehicles.

We must pay tribute that in such a competition, the Ukrainian pepelats looks prettier than the uglier Tiger.

[V.I.P.]

So it has better mine protection than the “Tiger.” And this is the main task for this type of car.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: svp67

The machine looks not bad

Is there a typo in the article or does this machine really weigh as much as 2 BRDM or almost as a loaded KAMAZ? The armored personnel carrier weighs the same ... Fig itself "dzhipchik" ....

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Fig yourself "dzhipchik"

domestic counterpart, Typhoon (K-53949 Typhoon 4x4), weighs 15 tons

[TermNachTer]

With a weight of 14 tons and weapons 12,7 mm. machine gun, what is it better than an armored personnel carrier - 80? It’s possible only at a price, but given the inherent thrust of banderlogs to pull everything that is bad, am I tormented by vague doubts?

[Sonmaster]

"Kozak" - from the word "Goat" or what?

[Sonmaster]

Oh, this Ukrainian mov ....

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

This is from Polish, kozacy - Cossacks, kozak - Cossack. Koza - goat, kozaki - boots or boot. Choose the root as you like Z - it is read not only as Z but also as Ts, we get a cozap. In the Republic of Poland they didn’t really like the left-bank in the south, some envied the others.

[TermNachTer]

You will answer for the goat ...

[sanik2020]

The characteristics are really not bad, like most cars of this class. Only small wheels and asphalt tread confuse, because Ukraine is mainly black earth. So a Cossack will get into it and have to run after the tractor, it may turn out that the tractors will have to be adopted. How then in battle?

[svp67]

Quote: sanik2020

Only small wheels and asphalt tread confuse, because Ukraine is mainly black earth.

So we are waiting for this machine to fall into the "skillful and caring hands of BB -3"
There are three "VVs" in the army, which must be greatly feared
BB-1 - "explosives",
BB-2 - "military doctors",
BB-3 - "military drivers"

[rocket757]

A car for police actions ... why would she climb fields, chernozems?

[Normal ok]

Quote: sanik2020

The characteristics are really not bad, like most cars of this class. Only small wheels and asphalt tread confuse, because Ukraine is mainly black earth. So a Cossack will get into it and have to run after the tractor, it may turn out that the tractors will have to be adopted. How then in battle?

Well, yes, the cooler the jeep, the farther to go behind the tractor.

[Mwg]

And the devil is, as always, in the details))))
You correctly noticed that on the account of wheels - not that. And the rest, if only for this

[knn54]

- However, the manufacturer does not provide stories about such tests.
"Chapaev is returning from a business trip to England. He is dressed all right, in a limousine, rings with diamonds on his hands. Trunk full of money. Porters carry out a bunch of suitcases.
Petka asks him in surprise:
- Vasily Ivanovich, where did you get all this from?
- Yes, Petka, I won the cards.
- Like this?
- I go to the club. Everyone is sitting there, drinking, playing cards. Looked closely - they cut into a point! I sat down at the table and took the cards. I have - 18. And my English rival says - 20. I to him: "Show me!" And he told me: "We, gentlemen, take our word for it." It was here that I was as flooded, as flooded "...

[faterdom]

Well done, good name. "Kozak", "Shoigu", "Rogozin", "Shamanov" - we can offer many more names for military equipment!
"Buratino" is already taken ... but there are still funny people: Samodelkin, Vintik and Shpuntik, Petrushka (!!!), Chipollino, Murzilka.

[Grits]

Quote: faterdom

but there are still funny little men: Samodelkin, Vintik and Shpuntik, Parsley (!!!), Chipollino, Murzilka.

... Thumbelina ...

[mmaxx]

It will be very convenient to drape. All-Terrain and Protected by NATO Standards

[Mwg]

I remember the Bastion was also served: oh, protection; uh, attack. Yes, this, 850 mm mortar - Hammer - where to go, so powerful. And look at Kozak in hopak too ....

[Arthur 85]

Maybe 85 mm? And then from 850 mm I hid under a table from fright

[Mwg]

Yeah, I went too far, I repent)))

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Arthur 85

Maybe 85 mm?

"Hammer" - 120-mm mortar M-120-15

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Arthur 85

Maybe 85 mm?

there are no mortars of this caliber.
37 mm, 47 mm, 50 mm, 81 mm, 82 mm, 107 mm, 120 mm, etc.

[The leader of the Redskins]

60 mm forgotten. It’s being used right now in the Donbass ...

[Peter is not the first]

It is in height-length, not in diameter.

[Arthur 85]

I'll try on mov: "Kazav a goat, sho blame the kind of goat, and viyavilos, what a goat." Just in case, this is from a humorous magazine published in the Ukrainian SSR in the 70s, please do not ban.

[Sarcasm]

The armored car is not bad for its tasks, it leaves a good impression. In an effort to make up for the shortcoming, and even the loss of armored personnel carriers and multipurpose armored vehicles, the neighbors developed and produced many interesting wheeled vehicles on the mountain.
Regarding errors in the article, you don’t need to read fortunes and scribble what’s horrible, it’s always easier to refer to the source, and all the detailed information is on the manufacturer’s website:
http://practika.ua/bez-rubriki/kozak-2m/
There is also about the whole family of armored vehicles "Kozak".

Here, the differences between the 2M modification and 2 are clearly visible:

[Andrey Alexandrovich_2]

tractor drivers and miners shit on your shushliks, everyone burns the same