Turkish Interior Minister resigns due to curfew failure

The Turkish Minister of Internal Affairs resigned due to the situation in the major cities of the country after his decision. We are talking about a curfew announced some time ago.

Suleiman Soilu imposed a curfew in 30 major cities of the country, explaining this by counteracting the spread of the pandemic. But as soon as news about the introduction of curfew was heard in Turkey, real crowds of people took to the streets all over the country, who began to literally storm stores, shops and pharmacies. People bought literally everything: from flour to medicines, emptying shelves. However, most did not have protective masks. People did not keep their distance in line.

Huge lines arose in the streets of Ankara, Istanbul, Antalya, which in itself was difficult to attribute to processes that at least somehow prevented the spread of infection. The curfew failed as a result, since the police for a long time could not provide for its regulation.

Due to the increased risks of a sharp number of diseases among Turkish citizens and due to the complete failure of the idea with a curfew, Suleiman Soilu and resigned.

The situation in Turkey on April 11:

If you believe the official statistics, then in Turkey there are about 57 thousand cases of the new virus. According to this indicator, the country is in the top ten in the world.

Comments

[Mountain shooter]

Here it is !!! Hot people - these Turks ... The virus only needed this ... True, the result will begin to affect with a delay of 2 weeks ...

[Stas157]

. Turkish Interior Minister resigned due to the situation after his decision in major cities of the country.

We don’t go away because of such nonsense. Yes, they don’t leave at all! But not because officials have no mistakes. And due to the fact that complete irresponsibility. Starting from the very head! From zeroed, which also does not go away.

[Amateur]

We don’t go away because of such nonsense.

And he did not go anywhere. Erdogan did not accept the application. So, an air quake for the public. But the PR reaction remained. In.

[Stas157]

Quote: Amateur

And he did not go anywhere. Erdogan did not accept the application.

Does it really change business? Maybe the Turkish official has not gone anywhere, but we are not doing any better. Our parasites still do not leave. Teeth hold on to the chair. And then they pass it by right of succession.

[Amateur]

Teeth hold on to the chair.

Do you think that if every Friday Golikova resigns, and on Mondays the guarantor rejects her application, then the people on Saturday and Sunday "will live better, life will be more fun"?

[Stas157]

Quote: Amateur

Do you thinkthat if every Friday Golikova will resign

Did Golikova even resign at least once?

I believethat the authorities should be responsible for their failures, which we do not have, unfortunately. Our non-alternative has failed all economic programs and failed to fulfill his main social promises ... Why is he still there (on the throne)?

[mitroha]

News about the Turkish Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the situation in Turkey. But no, we must immediately begin to flood about our officials, who, of course, deserve such an attitude towards themselves in the bulk. But, this is a completely different topic.
On the subject, panic can do more trouble than fire and virus combined.

[Stas157]

Quote: Mitroha

News about the Turkish Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the situation in Turkey. But no, you must immediately begin to flood about our officials

Flood here you are doing moralizing. I considered the Turkish event, depending on our circumstances.

This is exactly what should be considered others news - in the refraction own experience. As with them, and as with us, and what can be adopted, and what can be corrected.

[mitroha]

You on the topic of the news did not write not a word. This is flood

Quote: Stas157

As with them, and as with us, and what can be adopted, and what can be corrected.

I agree, but tell me, are you an official? Or are you responsible for preparing the bureaucracy? How are you going to adopt or fix it?
Officials are not taken from the tube, they grow and live with us.

[Stas157]

Quote: Mitroha

You on the topic the news did not write not a word. This is flood

This is exactly what applies to you. Tie up flood.

[mitroha]

I also wish you not to flood in the comments and discuss the essence of the news, respecting visitors and site participants, save their time, which is wasted on reading the flood. Which includes our latest posts.

[Stas157]

Quote: Mitroha

do not flood in comments and engage in discussion of the essence of the news, respecting visitors and site participants, save their time

Gold words. Everyone would do that!

[Deniska999]

An empowered person must have a notion of honor. Goofing off - to resign.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Stas157

We don’t go away because of such nonsense. Yes, they don’t leave at all!

Erdogan DOES NOT ACCEPT the resignation of his minister!
The cognitive dissonance? And for them it’s clever such manipulations of public opinion ...

[Mastodon]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Here it is !!! Hot people - these Turks ... The virus only needed this ... True, the result will begin to affect with a delay of 2 weeks ...

The Turks will wait when they are in Syria, as soon as they see both government troops and militants shoot to kill ..

Quote: Amateur

We don’t go away because of such nonsense.

And he did not go anywhere. Erdogan did not accept the application. So, an air quake for the public. But the PR reaction remained. In.

Well, as usual already ...
Yeah, for Turkey this crown will be a tough test .. It’s dangerous to accept tourists, sell tomatoes or even fight

[The leader of the Redskins]

If only our officials had the dignity and willpower to resign when they did not cope with their direct duties ...
Did not provide order - to resign ...
Did not hand over the object on time - to resign ...
The object "has risen in price" twice - to resign ...

[Antidote]

What do you want as in ...?
Do not rock the boat, there is no time for this! 11

[d1m1drol]

I disagree on the construction, are you familiar with the process of passing the state expertise by the project? The project is so squeezed there that you may simply not have materials in your estimates, the "experts" will be removed from the economy. Well, or for example, they will offer you to fill up with local soil under the roadway, in contradiction with all current regulations) I am just dealing with the issues of re-evaluating projects, and believe me this is not a project that is getting more expensive, these estimates are given in accordance with the graphic part! but "spotting" is completely different. So projects "become more expensive", or for example, as sometimes happens, you win a tender, you get the whole package of design estimates, you start building and suddenly it turns out that someone "very smart" has removed your materials from the prices. That is, the state pays you a penny for your work, and you have to buy material for a ruble at your own expense. So let's not talk about the timing and construction of projects. When you wait for 2-3 months for a technical solution from the customer on the intersection with the existing communications, or the issue of replacing the soil is decided by the administration for three months, and the issue is 10 minutes. When the contractor cannot take the earned for four months, because in the project the name of the material is in Cyrillic, and in the passport in Latin. He took part in many national projects, and almost everywhere the same song.

[den3080]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

If only our officials had the dignity and willpower to resign when they did not cope with their direct duties ...
Did not provide order - to resign ...
Did not hand over the object on time - to resign ...
The object "has risen in price" twice - to resign ...

I will add :)
The price of gasoline did not decrease - to resign.
But instead, imports of petroleum products to Russia are banned.
Too cheap has become gasoline abroad, it is worthless for the common Russian people.
In short: everything is for the front, everything is for the “Feduns”.

[your1970]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

If only our officials had the dignity and willpower to resign when they did not cope with their direct duties ...

I absolutely support !!! Only here is the nuance ...
The General Staff slept through the beginning of the Second World War. Remind me, who from the General Staff had the "dignity and willpower" to retire, or at least a private to the front ???? !!!

Quote: Stas157

Teeth hold on a chair

- it’s more accurate ....
And this, to put it mildly, did not drink the budget

[svp67]

Quote: your1970

General Staff overslept the beginning of the Second World War

????? Our General Staff, of course, "messed up" a lot before the war, but he certainly did not oversleep the beginning of it, he sent directives regularly and on time, there are more claims to the District Headquarters

[your1970]

And who shot himself at district headquarters? Got rid ALL!!!
And who resigned?
Who resigned for their unsuitability for shooting at 45-mm shells tanks? 97% of the 45-mm shells turned out to be fired according to the violated technology !!! Who!
Who was dismissed for the fact that 60% of the produced tank armor was defective and could not be put on tanks (there was an article on VO here ???)

[svp67]

Quote: your1970

And who shot himself at district headquarters?

Chief of the Air Force ZapF, Major General Kopets

Quote: your1970

Who resigned for their unsuitability for shooting at 45-mm shells tanks? 97% of the 45-mm shells turned out to be fired according to the violated technology !!! Who!

People's Commissar of NK Ammunition Commander Sergeev (shot)

Quote: your1970

Who was dismissed because 60% of the produced tank armor was defective and could not be put on tanks

These problems were in the 40th year, by the 41st problems were overcome

[Alexey RA]

Quote: svp67

People's Commissar of NK Ammunition Commander Sergeev (shot)

No. Sergeyev was appointed People's Commissar of BP only in 1939. But the marriage was earlier.
Sergeyev was shot for disrupting a plan for a 76-mm power supply unit and an 85-mm operating system - after Kulik began to dig up the reasons for the failure to fulfill the plan for BBS and found a mess in the distribution of orders and materials at the NKBP plants

The distribution of the order for the manufacture of shells of the NKB was obviously incorrect.
The entire task was given only to the factory number 73 of Stalin, which later than all the plants (at the end of 1939) began to manufacture 76-mm armor-piercing shells. Not having mastered the technology of heat treatment, having a high percentage of rejects of swimming trunks that could not stand the test of armor plates, not having mastered the manufacture of ballistic caps, in April 1940 completely curtailed the production of these shells.
Currently, the situation with the manufacture of 76-mm shells at the factory number 73 is also extremely poor. The machine shop produces only 50-100 hulls per day, and the heat shop does not have furnaces of sufficient power and conducts all processing in 2 small furnaces that do not guarantee a good quality of armor penetration.
At the same time, from factories No. 70 - Moscow, and No. 77 - Leningrad, which mastered the technology much better, had a fully equipped fleet of mechanical equipment for the production of 40.000-45.000 cases per month - a task for 1941 for the manufacture of these shells shot.
Part of the equipment at these plants is already switching to the manufacture of other products, while the majority is not fully used.

For an 85 mm OS, it’s enough to say that in a year and a half the NKBP produced 1 (one) ammunition for every 85 mm barrel. Moreover, based not on the regular number of trunks, but only on the actually produced.

[your1970]

Quote: svp67

These problems were in the 40th year, by the 41st problems were overcome

According to the article, they reduced it to 20% only by 1943 (find the article IN I myself am writing from the phone)

[Alexey RA]

Quote: your1970

Who resigned for their unsuitability for shooting at 45-mm shells tanks? 97% of the 45-mm shells turned out to be fired according to the violated technology !!! Who!

Not this way. One batch of 45 mm AP shells was defective - EMNIP, 1938
The problem was deeper - even with a high-quality shell manufactured in full compliance with the design documentation and TD, the 45-mm anti-tank gun normally penetrated only 30-mm German armor. But already on the 40-mm center, problems began - a shell pierced it with only 150 m.
This was discovered only in 1940, when it turned out that the German tanks ("three") had a case of cemented armor. Prior to that, 45-mm BBS were tested against domestic non-cemented armor K = 2400, and showed the declared armor penetration (even overheated shells of 1938). But when, in 1940, armor of high hardness with K = 2600 was submitted for testing, the hulls on it began to prick: a defective batch of smaller thicknesses, a high-quality batch of 40 mm of armor.
This problem was solved, but at the cost of reducing the criterion of armor penetration in terms of the mass of the projectile. penetrating behind the armor (Gartz localizers and the controlled destruction of the outer part of the shell during the passage of the armor).

[your1970]

Quote: Alexey RA

One batch of 45 mm AP shells was defective - EMNIP, 1938

So who then resigned for this?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: your1970

So who then resigned for this?

For the lack of the disposal of testers of armor sheets of a probable enemy?
On our armor, the shells worked in exact accordance with Jacob de Mar.

[your1970]

Quote: Alexey RA

For the lack of the disposal of testers of armor sheets of a probable enemy?

If my memory serves me right - they bought equipment in Germany, the entire real range available ... there were no tigers and panthers, but they bought everything else ..
And for the same purchases, armored steel was purchased

[Alexey RA]

Quote: your1970

If my memory serves me right - they bought equipment in Germany, the entire real range available ... there were no tigers and panthers, but they bought everything else ..
And for the same purchases, armored steel was purchased

That's how they bought it - so they tested it. In the year 1940. And the GAU immediately reacted: they ordered the development of a new 57-mm anti-tank gun and a long-barrel 45-mm anti-tank gun, as well as a steam rink, went through the army’s proposed anti-tank artillery brigades.

As you should be aware, the tests of shelling a new German tank conducted in the autumn of 1940 showed that the 45-mm anti-tank gun arr. 1937 g. Is unsuitable, as it can penetrate its armor at a distance no further than 150-300 m ...
The audit found that to increase the penetration ability of the 45-mm gun, it is necessary to develop a new type of ammunition, but the order of the NPO to the People’s Commissariat of Ammunition to carry out this work has not yet been received ...
(...)
76 mm divisional gun obr 1936 g. Has a higher penetrating ability, compared with the same gun arr. 1939 g only subject to the use of enhanced shot, the design of which has not yet been worked out ...
The 76-mm anti-aircraft gun is removed from production and is replaced everywhere by a more powerful 85-mm anti-aircraft gun arr. 1939.
In addition, the formation of 20 anti-tank brigades containing 1440 guns of 76 mm caliber will require at least 144 rounds with an armor-piercing shell, and the artillery department currently has only a little more than 000 rounds, or 20000 each 2,6 mm caliber gun.
The People’s Commissariat of Ammunition is not able to drastically increase the production of such ammunition due to the ongoing reorganization of production ...

Based on the above, we suggest that you review the staff of the Artillery anti-tank brigade of the RGC, taking into account the following considerations:
... excluded from the Artillery anti-tank brigade of the OGK 45-mm cannon arr 1937 g, replacing them with the 57-mm cannon arr 1941 g. ...
Up to the beginning of the gross production of a new 57-mm anti-tank gun, we consider it expedient to include 37-mm anti-tank anti-aircraft guns 1940 g. Into the brigade.
The number of 76-mm divisional guns in the composition of the Artillery anti-tank brigade RGC to reduce. Allow for equipping brigades 76-mm guns arr. 1939 g like having less weight.
In view of the low mobility of the 76-mm anti-aircraft cannon 1931, and the insufficient number of 76-mm armor-piercing ammunition, it is advisable to replace them in the composition of the Artillery anti-tank brigades 85-mm anti-aircraft guns. 1939 on a four-wheeled carriage, with better mobility and spent in the production of armor-piercing shot ...
To oblige the People's Commissariat of Ammunition to provide a program for equipping RGK Artillery anti-tank brigades with the necessary amount of armor-piercing ammunition ...

[Mastodon]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Did not provide order - to resign ...
Did not hand over the object on time - to resign ...
The object "has risen in price" twice - to resign ...

Or maybe it’s better to replace the resignation by shooting?
Joseph felt how to win the war and be the first in space! Just kidding, of course, but

[kepmor]

wild morals, however ... for failure and resignation ??? ... nooo, this is not our way ... we have other bonds ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: kepmor

this is not our way ...

Exactly. Your path is to throw and bounce.

[Sergej1972]

The resignation was not accepted by the President of Turkey, the minister continues to work.

[rotmistr60]

real crowds of people came out who literally began to storm stores, shops and pharmacies.

People in Turkey are subject to panic, and this naturally does not lead to anything good. With curfew, they burned themselves, creating an even greater threat of infection. In a critical situation, alarmists are worse and more dangerous than a real enemy, so they were to be shot in wartime. Well, the head of the Turkish Ministry of Internal Affairs can be understood as follows - disentangle the situation yourself, and I wash my hands.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: rotmistr60

alarmists are worse and more dangerous than a real enemy, therefore they were to be shot in wartime. Well, the head of the Turkish Ministry of Internal Affairs can be understood as follows - disentangle the situation yourself, and I wash my hands

As I understand you ... the official froze deafening nonsense ... than caused a panic and really hurt ...
Resignation is the minimum of what I could get off ... In wartime, the first one would be shot!

[Sergej1972]

Erdogan did not satisfy his request. The minister is still working.

[Amateur]

People in Turkey are subject to panic

Why only in Turkey? Everywhere!

[Thrifty]

As if his beautiful, but useless gesture will change the consciousness of the population! I personally think that he simply essentially withdrew, escaped, so to speak, from the battlefield! In other words, deserted! !!

[olegjuriewitch]

Quote: Thrifty

In other words, deserted! !!

Why deserted? I just realized that he was not in his place and could not cope with his duties.
Unfortunately, this is not the case with us, they do not voluntarily resign, if only after direct instruction or evading the inevitable punishment. (IMHO).

[grandfather_Kostya]

Turkey is densely packed with people, like Moscow. There you can go crazy deciding how to always stay 2 meters from all neighbors. It is good in my village- 1 person / sq km and there are no lovers of Courchevel ride.

[Alex Justice]

Bad for them:
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[Mentat]

Quote: Stas157

We don’t go away because of such nonsense.

We have such “nonsense” as you deigned to express yourself, when the whole country has infected each other in conditions when it is among the 10 countries in the world in terms of the number of infected people. Let's start with that. Neither from the people, nor from the leadership.

So, Emelya, you got there, of course, since your mouth opens, in Russia you have the right to it, but this is not your week clearly.

[Mentat]

Quote: kepmor

wild morals, however ... for failure and resignation ??? ... nooo, this is not our way ... we have other bonds ...

Who do you have? Forum guests from Ukraine usually juggle with words “scrapie” with a gnashing of teeth from hatred, which are usually jabbed by Svidomo.

And in Russia, you can also resign for a statement that does not correspond to your position.
examples:
https://www.rbc.ru/photoreport/03/09/2019/5d6e1af89a79475f3cd2b246

So you there, with your paper clips, cover your mouth until you learn how to express something with evidence.

[kepmor]

do not poke, dear, then do not know the directions for erotic travel

[Incvizitor]

In general, the more problems they have, the less opportunities they have to support terrorists.

[Master]

For tech. Who does not know. It's just this "forward-looking" minister. I decided to declare quarantine only 2-3 in advance. Here is the result. Everyone ran to get food. They won't bite their nails for 2 days