In Ukraine, funding for a rocket fuel plant ceased

In Ukraine, the Pavlograd Chemical Plant (PCP), which produces rocket fuel, was threatened with a complete stop. The reason for the closure is the lack of funding from the state. This was reported by Ukrainian media with reference to the statement of the director of the plant.

The Ukrainian authorities did not allocate funds for financing the Pavlograd Chemical Plant for 2020. According to the director of PCP Lionid Shiman, the shutdown of the enterprise will mean a shutdown of the entire missile industry, in particular the production of Alder missiles.

PCP is now in critical condition - since the beginning of the year we have not received funding, money has not yet been provided for us and for the implementation of the enterprise’s programs in 2020. (...) Financing of the plant was stopped, we were forced to lay off 687 people from the beginning of the year. If money does not arrive in the near future - we will release another 190

- said the director.

As explained, the Pavlograd plant has the technology for the production of solid rocket fuel, necessary for all missiles that are in service with the Ukrainian army and are still being developed. In addition to production, PCP owns technology for processing and utilizing rocket fuel, is able to extend the life of rockets and produces various types of explosives.

Over the years, all these technologies have been created at the expense of Ukrainian taxpayers, which is many billions of hryvnias. We have mastered unique technologies that most countries of the world do not possess

- said Shiman, adding that in Russia similar plants operate at full capacity and no one is going to stop them.

Comments

[svp67]

According to the director of the PCZ, Lionid Shiman, the shutdown of the enterprise will mean the halt of the entire rocket industry, in particular the production of Alder missiles.

And not only them, but all rockets using "solid fuel", including "Neptune" ...

In Russia, similar plants operate at full capacity and no one is going to stop them.

And thank God...

[Sky strike fighter]

Yes, Neptune is still an experimental craft, which has just entered a new stage of testing. It is not produced. So far, there is nothing to produce. How many same Alder missiles and experienced Alder-M missiles have been fired?

[Peter is not the first]

Probably as much as we have released "Zircons". The missiles are still being developed, and you are already talking about mass production. Yes, of course, I want these Ukrainian missiles to go on a long table, but so far they have enough money, although we have long been saying that Ukraine is about to collapse, like the United States. Let now at least there will be no rocket fuel for their missiles, let's push the stinking one into Tartarars.

[Teberii]

This is only the beginning, privatize land to sell factories, another redistribution of property is Comrade Shiman.

[Lipchanin]

They knocked another bottom

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Lipchanin

Another bottom struck

They thought they had reached the bottom, but they knocked from below ... (c)

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Zoldat_A

They thought they had reached the bottom, but they knocked from below ... (with

Something tells me that this knock will sound more and more often

[Avior]

Neptune is not solid fuel

Engine: Turbofan engine MS-400 [6]
Fuel: jet fuel

[gas113]

What about the accelerator?

[Avior]

he converted from S-125, in Ukraine, the stock of these missiles in warehouses

[Guards turn]

In the Lviv region, a worn anti-aircraft missile fell into the courtyard of a private house. It is reported by Interfax with reference to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

The incident occurred on April 2.

“During the planned activities for the combat training of the brigade, anti-aircraft guided missiles (SAM) were launched,” said Defense Minister Andrei Taran.

It is specified that no one was hurt, there was no damage.

According to preliminary results of the investigation, the most likely cause of the incident was the technical malfunction of the rocket, which was produced in 1985.

[svp67]

Quote: Avior

he converted from S-125, in Ukraine, the stock of these missiles in warehouses

Even if this is so, how old are these rockets and their fuel? And it tends to "deteriorate" and if they are ready to put "second-freshness boosters" on their new missiles, then this is not the worst news ... the chances of them falling or exploding at the start increase

[Avior]

Do not know
I know that at the first launches they used Proto from s125, then they began to refine
That missiles are old - that's for sure
Pavlograd chemical nobody is going to close, this is also a fact
What is the discussion going on in general - it's hard to understand

[svp67]

Quote: Avior

What is the discussion going on in general - it's hard to understand

There is a discussion of the statement of the plant director, who forgive the money ...

[Avior]

About close the factory, not a word
Requests to change the financing procedure
Together state guarantees wants direct budget financing
In Ukraine, in addition to Alder and Neptune, they also make ATGMs and other missiles
Nobody is going to close the plant, the usual inter-departmental squabbles and garbage in the press

[svp67]

Quote: Avior

About close the factory, not a word

Well, how can I say ... this statement of his can be regarded as a suspension of the enterprise, the specificity of which is such that the shutdown of the process can lead to problems

Financing of the plant was stopped, we were forced to lay off 687 people from the beginning of the year. If the money does not arrive in the near future - we will release another 190

[Avior]

there is a problem of fuel utilization of RS-22 missiles, which were delivered to the plant and had to be disposed of before 2019, but were not completed due to underfunding, some are stored.
The Americans should have financed, but in 2003 they refused, this burden still stretches
https://34.ua/v-pavlograde-na-himzavode-hranitsya-raketnoe-toplivo-kotoroe-ne-za-chto-utilizirovat_n84235

[Sirocco]

Quote: Avior

there is a problem of fuel utilization of RS-22 missiles,

Oddly enough, everyone grabbed the foam, and let's suck and dance the lambada on the coffin lid. The problem at the plant and in the city for more than 20 years is connected with the so-called recycling of rocket fuel, which lies in the warehouses and is not disposed of, and this is a time bomb, so mother doesn’t cry, the plant has been distinguished by such fireworks more than once. the second problem is ecology, at first the Penguins financed the technology of hydraulic washing, then our nuggets began to burn, and here the fun started, it fell into the rain after burning, the bologna raincoat changed color, some trees dried up, oncology rushing. The plant is the largest manufacturer of explosives in the USSR; it produced a wide range of products, from tennis balls to bottom mines and other rocket launchers. In general, Pavlograd at one time began to develop and upset very much, if it weren’t for Gorbachev and co, it would be a great industrial center, the forge of defense of which are such plants as PMZ UMZ branch, PZTO - Stankozavod, Litmash, Himmash, and all these plants were located in direct subordination of Moscow. And all this miraculously profiled as we in the Russian Federation and ourselves Independent. I remember how the American liquidators snooped around the PMZ and pointed with their finger which machines and equipment to destroy, which they did with success, the plant director tried to hide unique equipment, but apparently the case of Pavlik Morozov lived and lives. So this is sorrow for all of us, and we have not gone far left all destroyed and turned the Russian Federation into a large shopping center.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: svp67

Well, how can I say ... this statement of his can be regarded as a suspension of the enterprise, the specificity of which is such that the shutdown of the process can lead to problems

in fact of the matter. Therefore, the enterprise will not be stopped, since this will entail much more serious problems. Yes, the staff at PCP has been reduced, but so far these are all measures.

The fact is that once in the past, under the presidency of Kravchuk, Ukraine pledged to abandon nuclear weapons. She handed over the warheads to Russia (in exchange for receiving fuel for nuclear power plants), but the missiles had to be disposed of on their own. And, although almost 20 years have passed since then, about 1,8 thousand tons of solid fuel from USSR missiles are still at the PCP. The shelf life of which has long been released. Imagine a firework from a babah of such an amount of fuel? Pavlograd will sweep away the face of the earth
So they will finance.

[svp67]

Quote: Gregory_45

Imagine a firework from a babah of such an amount of fuel? Pavlograd will sweep away the face of the earth

Pavlograd will not do ...

[16329]

It is unfortunate that similar enterprises remained in Ukraine, I hope that in any case he has a problem with raw materials

[Rzzz]

Quote: 16329

I hope he has a raw material problem anyway

Yes, the raw materials are not so fantastic.

[16329]

No, of course, but some of its components are not produced in Ukraine

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Avior

In Ukraine, in addition to Alder and Neptune, they also make ATGMs and other missiles

and many more tales tell !!!

Over the years, all these technologies have been created at the expense of Ukrainian taxpayers, which is many billions of hryvnias. We have mastered unique technologies that most countries of the world do not possess

[Avior]

Not without it, of course
But Ukraine was accepted into the agreement of the regime for limiting rocket technologies, and there are only three and a half dozen countries, so there are some

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Avior

Not without it, of course
But Ukraine was accepted into the agreement of the regime for limiting rocket technologies, and there are only three and a half dozen countries, so there are some

vnaukraina and "We have mastered unique technologies that most countries in the world do not possess" - this is an outright banter over our country ... especially if you remember the self-destructing mortar hammer !!!

[cmax]

Avior. Of course not a word about closing. ... More than 650 people have simply been laid off since the beginning of the year, "and everything else is fine."

[Old Operator]

Read about the starting engine

[Errr]

Quote: Avior

Neptune is not solid fuel

He has a solid fuel starting accelerator.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: svp67

all solid-propellant rockets, including Neptune ...

Neptune, like the X-35, is not a solid rocket (the engine consumes aviation kerosene)
Solid propellant in a rocket is only a starting accelerator

In addition, it is highly unlikely that the plant is completely covered. PCP is the only enterprise in Ukraine that has equipment and technology for the utilization of solid rocket fuel

[Avior]

he wasn’t covered at all, only the order of financing was changed
They offer to take money under state guarantees, they also want to receive directly.

[TermNachTer]

There was nothing to worry about. A prototype, so it would remain an experienced one. Public relations and budget scrapping are the main thing, and nobody cares about what will happen later, because none of them is going to live in Banderland. Almost all of them have passports from the USA, Canada, France, Germany, etc. When the Banderlyand "goes to the racket", the guys will leave their place of work and with suitcases of bucks will leave for warm lands.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Refueling missiles will now be a torch.

[Ros 56]

Well, why make people laugh, what kind of missiles, where to get them, and the burner will be made out without any missiles anyway.

[Cat]

Refueling missiles will now be a torch.

And then what to fill Natsik? They "will not fly" without vodka

[Lipchanin]

Salome that fell will cost

[Cat]

Salom

I’ll say as a specialist in ... uh ... rocket science: fat is like fuel, and burner is like an oxidizer And you can easily fly in airless space

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gato

And you can easily fly in airless space

The main thing is that there is no collision with the ISS

[Cat]

The main thing is that there is no collision with the ISS

Well, there is enough extraterrestrial intelligence without the ISS. The worst nightmare for Natsik is not very polite green people

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gato

The worst nightmare for Natsik is not very polite green people

Aha. Crowd flies

[AU Ivanov.]

Better hemp grown. Puffed up and already in space.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

Puffed up and already in space.

Or immediately on the moon

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5

Refueling missiles will now be a torch.

And the kit will have an acetylene burner

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5

Refueling missiles will now be a torch.

Officers told.
Previously, some of the very first missiles were refueling including alcohol. After refueling, a lot of alcohol remained in the hoses.
As they said officers of the Strategic Missile Forces began to drink too much Alcohol urgently replaced
And here's another story about the Air Force
On the MiG-25, pure alcohol was used as an anti-icer. 300 liters !!!
He was called the "Flying Deli"
They say that the pilots' wives wrote a letter to the KB with a request to remove the alcohol.
The answer was a masterpiece.
"If the Central Committee orders, we will refuel with brandy"
Maybe a bike, I don’t know, but I heard from techies and pilots

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Lipchanin

On the MiG-25, pure alcohol was used as an anti-icer. 300 liters !!!

MiG used alcohol-water mixture. And in the anti-icing system it was the least. Basically - into the cooling system - the generators cooled, a lot of alcohol was consumed by the jamming station - only about 25 liters on the MiG180RB

[Cat]

they say wives of pilots

Grandmother told (with her grandfather they served in Shaikovka, Tu-16, 60s) that flyers disdained technical alcohol (probably from internal aristocracy ), and ran for vodka in "Three Birches", so much so that his wife set up checkpoints and patrols there.

[Evgenijus]

Quote: Lipchanin

As they said officers of the Strategic Missile Forces began to drink too much

It is not true. At the first RVSN complexes (R-12 rocket) there was no time to drink. And there’s nothing to drink - there was nitric acid in the rocket and not one more poisonous liquid. Only the contacts on the cable connectors and the optics of the aiming devices were cleaned with alcohol. The chief engineer always had a canister not empty and locked. No one knew where she stood.

[Cat]

It is not true. At the first Strategic Missile Forces complexes (R-12 missile)

At R-2, the fuel was a 92% alcohol-water mixture, and the oxidizing agent was liquid oxygen. True, this is not the Strategic Rocket Forces, but the RVGK

[businessv]

- said Shiman, adding that in Russia similar plants operate at full capacity and no one is going to stop them.

It remains just a little bit - to become part of Russia, or just normal to cooperate with it and be respected!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: businessv

become part of Russia

You need it.
Or do you dream of giving the IMF debts for them?

[businessv]

Quote: Lipchanin

You need it.

This eastern part is independent, I don’t see anything terrible if 5-6 regions with a Russian-speaking population come under the jurisdiction of Russia. People have nothing to do with it! Moreover, in this case, the rest of the independence will be freed from minke whales faster.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: businessv

This is the eastern part of the independent,

Well, they would say

[demo]

PCP is now in critical condition - since the beginning of the year we have not received funding, money has not yet been provided for us and for the implementation of the enterprise’s programs in 2020. (...) Financing of the plant was stopped, we were forced to lay off 687 people from the beginning of the year. If money does not arrive in the near future - we will release another 190
Good.
"Horny cow doesn't need horns."
The neighbors themselves will be less intrusive and less worried.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: demo

Good. The neighbors themselves will be less intrusive and less worried.

There certainly is no reason to worry about the 404s.
I still sincerely do not understand why they are surprised? Did you jump? Did you crave lacy panties? The three-finger-thick contract with Europe was signed by ourselves, and there I think nothing was said about the development of industry - ourselves, all by ourselves

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: demo

"Horny cow doesn't need horns."
The neighbors themselves will be less intrusive and less worried.

You will not understand them - then they are about to reproduce nuclear weapons and zhahnut in Moscow (more recently, the "lady with the scythe" on the Maidan shouted that "Moscow must be burned with nuclear weapons" (c) and here's another https://topwar.ru/ 42324-ukrainskoe-yadernoe-oruzhie-zhelaniya-i-vozmozhnosti.html), the last factories are closed ...
How are you going to burn Moscow?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Zoldat_A

How are you going to burn Moscow?

"Sernikami"

[LKWUE]

Sirnykami, you would have written cheesecakes, you are our ....

[Kot_Kuzya]

Right dear gallop, brothers . Worse than a galloping Nazi, only a galloping Nazi with a rocket.

[Lipchanin]

And blindfolded

[Non liberoid Russian]

forward, with a song, to the bright, future of a super-power slaves on Polish fields

[4ekist]

You can, for example, arrange the production of pots and pans. Same thing.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Most likely the workshops will be closed and equipment will be sold for scrap.

[Lipchanin]

[quote = 4ekist] It is possible, for example, to arrange the production of pots and pots [/ Quote]
Do you think the next Maidan is planned?

[businessv]

Quote: 4ekist

arrange the release of pans and pots

The pan does not hold on the head, only the pots!

[Rurikovich]

Quote: businessv

The pan does not hold on the head, only the pots!

In this case, the adhesive tape saves

[Lipchanin]

Quote: businessv

The pan does not hold on the head, only the pots!

Not just pots

[onix757]

Everything is just like ours. Sintez-PV, the only producer of highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide in Russia for Roscosmos, was declared bankrupt by the court.
In the post-Soviet space, the same people rule.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide for "Roscosmos" "Sintez-PV" ........ and sho flies on it now ??? or rather on what launch vehicles? as far as I can remember the launch vehicle "seven" on kerosene-oxygen. and protons to heptyl-amyl, at one time I remember the first stage in the early series of air defense missiles of the S-75 complex were fueled by hydrogen peroxide ... along the way, it was not a matter of bankruptcy, but of reprofiling

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide for "Roscosmos" "Sintez-PV" ........ and sho flies on it now ???

and the Khrunichev Center (carrier rockets of the Proton family and upper stages for them, LV of the Angara family) are on the verge of bankruptcy.
In fact, bankruptcy of an enterprise does not mean that it inappropriately ceases to exist and carry out its activities
So, the same Sintez-PV, despite the fact that it was declared bankrupt in December 2019, still continues to work and manufacture products. The current needs of Roscosmos in the supply of hydrogen peroxide while provided incl. from the side of "Sintez-PV".

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide for "Roscosmos" "Sintez-PV" ........ and sho flies on it now ???

Synthesis of PV is the only producer of PV-85 and PV-98 fuel.
Hydrogen peroxide is used in the steering engines of the Soyuz family rockets and in the engines of the Soyuz MS spacecraft launching system.
In addition, it is planned to be used in the landing system of the Orel spacecraft.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

engines of the system of descent from orbit of spacecraft "Soyuz MS" .......... yes even I tupanul about brake on the Soyuz. in the heat of the celebration of the First Flight of the East and the Sunrise, which simply plopped on parachutes on Mother Earth, the Unions were inhibited in addition to the parachute by the engines, but nevertheless, rather than bankruptcy, but the replacement of management

[Dart2027]

Quote: onix757

Everything is just like ours.

So we don’t have rockets? Hmm ...

[Sergej1972]

Many enterprises go bankrupt in order to be transferred to Rostec or other state corporations. For example, an enterprise in Kurgan for the production of armored vehicles has been successfully operating after bankruptcy. Sometimes, if private owners rock the boat, and the enterprise is important for the military-industrial complex, there is no other way out.

[Mountain shooter]

Matches for children is not a toy ... You don’t need rockets ... Otherwise, it will fly the wrong way ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

. And then it’s flying the wrong way ..

On Banking for example

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Lipchanin

On Banking for example

Well, that’s exactly - THERE !!!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Quote: Lipchanin

On Banking for example

Well, that’s exactly - THERE !!!

A rocket is no fool wherever it goes

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Otherwise, it’ll fly the wrong way ...

they are no strangers ... in addition to the downed civilian planes, they once shot "Tochka" around their apartment building !!

[113262a]

Scha brothers still help the brothers! Fuel and Belarus nonsense, also sells to the Chinese!

[Thrifty]

As an option, begging for money, or fuel from the European Union, for the needs of the "fighters" against the "Russian military hordes"! Perhaps, Europe and drips UK homeland -400 drops of valerian, (without salad)

[knn54]

They will go bankrupt, sell a strategic and city-forming (there are also mines) enterprise. "True Ukrainians" Aivaras Abromavichus and Mustafa Nayem (also gunboots) follow the instructions of Anglo-Saxon advisers, of whom there are plenty in Ukroboronprom.

[Retvizan 8]

So throw a cry, let the people send SMS again!
The ancient Ukrainian fun was supported by the army, now industry, etc., can be in a circle.)))

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Retvizan 8

etc,

Prezikluna. The rating is falling, it is necessary to support

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Duc why goat button accordion, it's time to fields to pshekah. all the more so no need to go far. a native of the country ....

[Mebius]

The reason for the closure is the lack of funding from the state.

Interestingly, what did they carry there before? Rocket building has long existed on the outskirts ..
Or most likely for which country of BV and Africa?
Well, all the lads, we take everything away to metal and drag it to the Baltic states ..

[sanik2020]

Scha brothers still help the brothers! Fuel and Belarus nonsense, also sells to the Chinese!

In Nazism, he popped something, but he says only in Ukraine.

[Sky strike fighter]

Do you have any idea what Nazism is?
Nazism is a worldview that puts a certain nation (race or people) at the head of the world and advocates the use of repressive measures in relation to the rest of humanity. Condemnation of Nazism is based on these repressive measures and on the fact that there is no way to get out of the group of oppressed people. So slogans such as "America first" or, for example, "Ukraine in the first place" are quite suitable for this definition. No, they simply clarify the realities of our time, forgive all possible options. Only everything. By the way, this is why in the UN the same USA, Ukraine vote against documents condemning Nazism, because they do not want to condemn themselves.

[APASUS]

This is of course the version, but why not ............
Why raise a revolt of patriots, you can quietly peacefully cover up one of the strategic factories and the floor of the military industrial complex will collapse. Our partners in Russia did in the 90s. They closed strategic productions under the guise of privatization, bankruptcy, corporatization and everything, there is no weapon in the country. It looks like the developed scheme of the West. And then the Poles got excited about the success of Ukraine in the production of RCC Neptune. The owner will bring everything to balance, he needs the land of Ukraine, and not the Bandera squad with missile weapons !!!

[Sky strike fighter]

And then the Poles got excited about the success of Ukraine in the production of RCC Neptune.

In the trial of RCC Neptune, not production.

The owner will bring everything to balance, he needs the land of Ukraine, and not the Bandera squad with missile weapons !!!

And not only he needs the land of Ukraine, but also Poland, Hungary, Romania, maybe Turkey that will fall, not to mention Russia. So nobody needs a strong Ukraine. It is possible that the West didn’t like hints of potential successes of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex and cut it They decided to speed up so that the client did not leave, having removed the gypsum ahead of time. Not for that he was lured into a debt hole. The client should be dependent and easily manageable.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

maybe Turkey that will fall

doubtful ... the maximum-a piece of Georgia !!!

[Tusv]

Quote: APASUS

cover one of the strategic plants and the floor of the military-industrial complex will collapse. Our partners did in the 90s

Interesting version. Izit Nau VPK works, sells, but is not for sale, unlike U. VPK

[Tusv]

Well what can I say about this. The frayer's greed ruined. Ukraine tried to sell Russia the average Zenith at the price of a heavy Proton. Result Sea launch has sunk into oblivion, as well as Ukrainian rocket science. And who needs Ukrainian rocket fuel. Only Russia. Let's get more sanctions from Russia and you will ruin the country

[Sky strike fighter]

Does Russia need Ukrainian rocket fuel? I strongly doubt it. There is one.

[Tusv]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Does Russia need Ukrainian rocket fuel? I strongly doubt it. There is one.

About that and match. The last rocket with a Ukrainian share took off six months ago. Not well, we are still utilizing Satan, with the launch of satellites. So there is a three-fold supply of fuel

[Avior]

can you give a price link?
everywhere it says that they paid, and then changed their minds without explanation

[Tusv]

Quote: Avior

can you give a price link?

Googel in the teeth and a feather in the ass

everywhere it says that they paid, and then changed their minds without explanation

Not well. We paid, I do not deny it. Only Us cookie showed the new Maidan authorities for Our money. And if a neighbor deceives you, then it’s better to pay your own. As a result, the third space power is deep in the place where parades are happening on Red Square

[Avior]

Googel in the teeth and feather in the garden

understand you can't
I will help you.

As a launch vehicle, a three-stage Zenit-3SL rocket was used - a modification of the Zenit-2 launch vehicle with a DM booster. The main developer - Yuzhnoye Design Bureau (Dnipro), was produced at the Yuzhmash Dnepropetrovsk plant.

On August 14, 2017, S7 confirmed that it would use Zenit until 2023, after which it would switch to Soyuz-5 [51] ....
On October 3, 2017, the head of RSC Energia Vladimir Solntsev told the media that at the first stage of using the cosmodrome, only Zenit will be launched from it. At the second stage, after the modernization of the cosmodrome and the appearance of the Soyuz-5 carrier, the Zenit will be abandoned [53].
On February 13, 2018, the CEO of S7 Space Transport Systems (a subsidiary of the S7 group) Sergey Sopov told the media that the company ordered Yuzhmash to produce 12 launch vehicles until 2023 inclusive, based on the self-sustainability of the project in 3-4 launches in year. The composition of each Zenith includes an RD-171M first stage engine, a second stage combustion chamber, a control system and many other components, which are completely manufactured in Russia. In total, about 150 domestic enterprises are involved in cooperation. Their share in cost terms of the cost of the rocket is 80%. Fulfillment of the contract for 12 Zenit will bring Russian enterprises half a billion dollars [54].
The Zenit launch vehicle for the first launch as part of the resumption of the Sea Launch project can be manufactured in 2019. The carrier was to be built by Ukraine, with the participation of Russia, and the final assembly of the rocket was planned to be carried out in the USA [55]. In March 2019, a message was received to cancel this scheme.

could already fly .... if not ...

The private Russian space company S7 Space has refused a contract with the Ukrainian plant Yuzhmash for the production of 12 Zenit launch vehicles. This information was confirmed to Kommersant by the co-owner of the company Natalya Fileva .....
But the Russian authorities forbade the enterprises of Roscosmos to supply components for Zenit to the Ukrainian Yuzhmash.

what is the reason?
https://korrespondent.net/business/companies/4079036-rossyiskaia-kosmycheskaia-kompanyia-otkazalas-ot-ukraynskykh-raket

Obviously, at the moment, the Russian side is unlikely to have a ready-made alternative to Zenit. True, there is Soyuz-5, but it is still unknown whether it will be suitable for Sea Launch without any modifications. This, by the way, despite the fact that S7 Space has already transferred part of the amount (approximately $ 30 million) to the Ukrainian company. So why did S7 nevertheless refuse the services of a Ukrainian enterprise?
The reason, as usual, is political. As the political scientist Oleg Ignatov reminded the Kharkiv NA, this happened because of the sanctions, in this case, Russian ones. ... Obviously, if the Russian S7 did not comply with the sanctions, it would be a scandal, because the company is obliged to comply with the laws of its own country.

https://nahnews.org/1009985-yuzhmash-ostalsya-bez-kontraktov-pochemu-rossiya-otkazalas-ot-ukrainskoi-rakety-nositelya
and 150 Russian enterprises were left without earnings, and Yuzhmash received 30 million.

[Tusv]

Quote: Avior

and 150 Russian enterprises were left without earnings, and Yuzhmash received 30 million.

I understand that apart from someone else's sheet, you have no thoughts. Thirty million of what?
NK-33 cherished Yankees certified RD-181, the cosmodrome in Bolivia there too. Yes, I would have shot myself long ago from such creative Uzbeks. Moreover, in our space industry is far from sweet

[Avior]

thoughts arise from facts.
And thoughts without facts are a torrent of torment.

Thirty million of what?

30 million

Now do you know the facts?
Success

[Tusv]

Quote: Avior

Now do you know the facts?

Not that Zenith is one of the best mid-range missiles I know. Only this verbiage about 2017-18 is actually how many Zeniths could launch. But. Forgot chtol We are under the most severe Ukrainian sanctions

[Avior]

like all the facts I told you

[Tusv]

What are the facts? When was the last time Zenit flew into space? You have facts, it's that I scratch my left ear, so right away Putin will write me 25 years in a maximum security colony

[Avior]

facts about your statement
why abandoned Zenith

[Viktor Sergeev]

Ukraine and missiles are incompatible terms. Poverty and missiles are incompatible.

[Tusv]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

Ukraine and missiles are incompatible terms.

Why so? We let go of Ukraine as a space power number three. In its entirety, Zenit, as an average missile, is one of the best. Only nafig was not needed

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Tusv

In its entirety, Zenit, as an average missile, is one of the best. Only nafig was not needed

there it seems like most of the components were Russian ... now they themselves can’t make a Zenith, nor can they assemble AN !!!

[bar]

"Didn't fit into the market" (c)

[Amateur]

Over the years, all these technologies have been created at the expense of Ukrainian taxpayers, which is many billions of hryvnias.

Soviet factories were not built for the hryvnia. For hryvnia only break and close.

[beeper]

There is no sadness that the production of missiles and explosives for the Banderonazi punishers will stop! And rightly so - "horns are contraindicated for a vigorous cow"!
This is where as many billions of our taxes and monthly "military extortion" were spent - not only on "cutting" by kleptochinus-"pigs" on "their own transcordon Shevchenko hatyns", but also on the actual production of rocket fuel and explosives for the mass murder of our fellow citizens, the rebels against the anti-constitutional pro-American Maidan coup!
Since so far nothing can be done about the anti-national anti-state Bandera Nazi junta (with the help of Washington and its "all-European" satellites, which occupied, enslaved, Ukraine and turned it into a beggar-amerocolony "Ukraine" !!!), then it would be better to let the W / Bandera junta thieves profiting immensely, rowing for themselves and eating in three throats, due to "stinking schemes" plundering the financing of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, than these our labor taxes will fall on the supply of weapons and into the clutches of "heroes" - murderers who kill the civilian population in the "ATO zone" Donbass!

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Some kind of fuel there .. The main thing is to sell the earth. And there, though, the grass does not grow.

[Naughty]

Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5

Refueling missiles will now be a torch.

It’s not human, it’s not human . Even if the rockets are aimed at Muscovites.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Everything would be fine, but in Pavlograd there is a lot of spent rocket fuel, which is stored in an improper manner which was supposed to be reprocessed.

[beeper]

Ravil_Asnafovich, funding for the reprocessing of the highly toxic rocket fuel stored in Pavlograd (already for decades!) Was stopped even under the "blue thieves" Yanek-Azarov, alas!
And as for their Maidan accomplices, narcissistic embezzlers with "multi-passports", this is even more useless, after all, as the under-Fuehrer of the Maidan-ameromarionet "Maidan premier" Senya Rabbit-Kulyavloba used to say during the klepto "construction of a great mesh fence" going "?!

[tsinik]

What Toya did not understand is overreach or zrad.

[sabakina]

Over the years, all these technologies have been created at the expense of Ukrainian taxpayers, which is many billions of hryvnias. We have mastered unique technologies that most countries of the world do not possess

I am tormented by vague doubts that PCP and unique technologies appeared after 1991 ....

[K-50]

Over the years, all these technologies have been created at the expense of Ukrainian taxpayers.

for a start, all this was created in the Soviet "occupation" time, with the money of taxpayers of the WHOLE Soviet country. The Ukrainian taxpayers didn’t let the enterprise disappear earlier.
But it seems the time has come.
As in the Russian proverb - "no matter how tight the rope, the end will still be."

[CommanderDIVA]

A few years ago, the Americans examined this plant, possibly for their own use, but apparently in the USA they decided to liquidate the enterprise, from which, and not only from this episode, the prospect emerges that the Americans are not going to stay in this country for a long time, together with The EU will destroy all strategic sectors so that we do not take advantage of them, buy the best assets, and jump off, everything is clear and predictable

[Avior]

A few years ago, the Americans examined the plant.

since he participated in programs for the reprocessing of decommissioned missiles and the destruction of infantry mines.

[Chingachguk]

Well, how differently !!!! ???? Dill something flying can not be trusted !!!!! May get hurt !!!!!

[Arthur 85]

Yeah. One missile will be lost, the other will be broken.

[Alex Nevs]

And then the valtsman has the money. Mustache according to plan.

[Zaurbek]

And good. One less competitor

[Mavrikiy]

In Ukraine, funding for a rocket fuel plant ceased

It seems proposed to find internal reserves. I'm afraid the exquisite reserves will shake Overwhelming.

[Prjanik]

They directly surprised the 90s at the Ruin and did not stop.

[Motorist]

in Russia, similar plants operate at full capacity and no one is going to stop them

GIPH and I had something similar in the 90s.

[U-58]

I somehow didn’t understand.
If the product is in demand, then it will be bought and financing is automatic.
Unless to be credited for running expenses.
But if products are not needed, then who will pay money for air ???

[Lord of the Sith]

So much for the "Ukrainian" missiles, which they so threatened and wanted to shoot at the Crimean bridge.
What will you refuel? Kizyakom?))

[Gosha Smirnov]

salty bacon and vodka

[Chaldon48]

God grant that this plant is anchored

[Old26]

Quote: Evgenijus

It is not true. At the first RVSN complexes (R-12 rocket) there was no time to drink. And there’s nothing to drink - there was nitric acid in the rocket and not one more poisonous liquid.

Kamrad Lipchanin probably meant the R-1, R-2 and R-5 missiles. Although the phrase officers of the Strategic Missile Forces is a little inconsistent. Then the Strategic Rocket Forces were not yet ...

[DPN]

On surely a joke, they will not allow to stop if he is the only one.

[Peter is not the first]

Close, blow up all buildings, and level the area under the "Friendship and Peace" park!

[cat Rusich]

In Ukraine, even a GOLD mine will go bankrupt - not on the topic, but in essence.

[Gosha Smirnov]

Well, uh ... we need a factory where even they don’t even paint

[Maks1995]

Oh, holos.
The fat has already disappeared, the burner too, chernozem 3 times minimum, now they have reached rocket fuel .....

[Butchcassidy]

And thank God that it is closed. Take specialists for yourself, and the "Kiev monkey" will be one "grenade" less!

[aszzz888]

According to the director of the PCZ, Lionid Shiman, the shutdown of the enterprise will mean the halt of the entire rocket industry, in particular the production of Alder missiles.

Let the toilet paper produce. if they can.

[Dog]

Over the years, all these technologies have been created at the expense of Ukrainian taxpayers.

The company was founded in 1929. At the expense of Ukrainian tax payers, there could be worked out the technologies of embezzlement there, the rest is our heritage, the rights to which the modern state of Ukraine for me, for example, are not at all obvious.

[Dzafdet]

The surname is significant for the director. In general, it’s better to gouge it with Caliber, the Jews won’t bomb anything in Syria right away. And we need to ...

[Arthur 85]

And thank God. Take away a grenade from Svidomo.

[Rusfaner]

What are you, what are you!
Let it play!
And, this ... straighten the antennae, otherwise the hour is uneven, they will catch on ...

[ZaharoFF]

adding that in Russia similar plants operate at full capacity and no one is going to stop them

How could it be that the neighbor’s cow didn’t die. And here he slipped. They cannot live without us.

[ZaharoFF]

Over the years, all these technologies have been created at the expense of Ukrainian taxpayers, which is many billions of hryvnias.

These technologies were made for conscientious rubles. For the Ukrainian hryvnia - the fence was painted in a yellow-black color a couple of times.

[Rusfaner]

Yes, it’s no big deal if he gets up!
If Svidomo starts “cooking” a surrogate, you’ll see, they’ll self-destruct once again...