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In Lukoil, the OPEC + agreement was called a “humiliating but necessary” deal

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In Lukoil, the OPEC + agreement was called a “humiliating but necessary” deal

Leonid Fedun, vice president of the largest Russian private oil company LUKOIL, commented on the conclusion of a new OPEC + deal in an interview with RBC, calling it a necessary but “humiliating and difficult” world.


According to Fedun, a new agreement to limit oil was necessary and it has both positive and negative sides. Answering the question whether Russia would pay an adequate price, agreeing to a decrease in production by 2,5 million barrels per day, Fedun compared the deal with Brest Peace, which was humiliating for Russia, but necessary.

I would give an example of the Brest Peace when the Bolsheviks in 1918 were forced for various reasons to make a deal with Germany, which was humiliating and difficult

- he said.

Lukoil’s vice president explained that if the OPEC agreement had not been signed, then in a month and a half all oil storage tanks would be full and Russia would have to stop the wells, cutting production by more than 50% and selling oil at a price of $ 15-20 per barrel . The deal allows you to raise the cost of oil to $ 30-40 per barrel, which will bring Russia 70-80 million dollars a day, and this alone justifies the deal.

In addition, the new agreement prevented the oil war of Moscow and Riyadh and now Saudi Arabia, as well as the UAE, Kuwait and Iraq will not be able to lower oil prices.

Recall that according to the results of a nine-hour OPEC + video conference, an agreement was reached under which all countries agreed to reduce oil production by two years. According to the terms of the transaction, from May 1 to the end of June, the global decline in oil production will be 10 million barrels per day, from July 1 - 8 million barrels, and from January 1 of the next year to April 2022 - 6 million barrels per day. The main share of the reduction in production is taken by Saudi Arabia and Russia.
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  1. revnagan
    revnagan April 12 2020 10: 28 New
    +8
    What about the Americans?
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi April 12 2020 10: 34 New
      +9
      Quote: revnagan
      What about the Americans?

      They will have a very large production coexistence without any contracts, but exclusively from economic and economic indicators. In 2014-15, US oil production fell by 40%. And the rise began only in 2016.
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat April 12 2020 10: 53 New
        17
        Somewhere like this:
        The Kremlin’s attempt to bite its teeth on the global oil market and sacrifice partnership with Saudi Arabia to hit the US shale industry ended in Russia's surrender.

        On Thursday, following talks in a video conference format, the countries of the OPEC + alliance reached an agreement in principle to stabilize the global oil market, which was on the brink of disaster due to the coronavirus pandemic that brought global demand down.

        To stop the collapse of prices falling to levels in the late 1990s ($ 10,5 per Urals), 24 OPEC + countries will remove 10 million barrels of daily supplies from the market. At the same time, Russia will reduce production more than anyone else, follows from the protocol, which cites a source of TASS.

        Within the framework of the deal, two months - May and June - Russia and Saudi Arabia will pump 8,5 million barrels per day, reducing production by 23% from the conventional level of 11 million barrels per day.

        Russia produces 11,2 million b / s, and thus its reduction quota will be 2,7 million b / s.

        By April, Saudi Arabia increased production to 12,3 million bpd, but in March it pumped 9,8 million bpd. In the previous 13 months, its production was even lower - 9,4–9,8 million bpd.

        Thus, relative to the levels before the collapse of the OPEC + agreement and the outbreak of the “price war”, Riyadh will reduce production by only 1,3 million bpd.


        The total production of OPEC + countries will fall from 43,8 million to 33,8 million barrels per day. For each country participating in the restrictions, production should decrease by 23%, TASS sources reported earlier.

        In particular, OPEC countries will reduce production by 6 million barrels per day, other parties to the agreement - by 3,9 million barrels per day.

        Also, Iraq has large quotas (production decline by 1 million barrels per day), the United Arab Emirates (0,7 million barrels per day), Nigeria (0,42 million barrels per day), Mexico (0,4 barrels per day).

        According to the document, Iran, Libya and Venezuela still retain the right not to reduce production due to internal political crises.

        The United States, which the Kremlin insisted on the deal, refused to join OPEC +. Russia and Saudi Arabia decided to “flood the oil market” and “must figure it out themselves,” said US President Donald Trump on Wednesday.

        G20 countries will help stabilize the oil market by purchasing raw materials to the strategic reserve, the head of the Ministry of Economic Development Fatih Birol said on Thursday. Such programs have already been launched by the United States (90 million barrels), India (15 million) and China (unknown volume).

        The new agreement will be valid until the end of April 2021, while the production limit will gradually increase. From July to December, the reduction will decrease to 8 million barrels per day, and from January 2021 to April inclusive - to 6 million barrels per day.

        The next meeting of OPEC + countries will be held on June 10, most likely in the format of a webinar.

        finanz.ru
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 April 12 2020 10: 58 New
          41
          Lukoil needs to be nationalized. a bunch of cheeky fat sellers selling national wealth. Converting oil to bucks.
          Lukoil workers will remain their own, but profit will flow to the budget.
          And there will not be any humiliation.
          1. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor April 12 2020 11: 03 New
            47
            as well as instead of Lukoil in your post a couple of dozen company names to put the trading country, and I completely agree with your post ..
            1. kjhg
              kjhg April 12 2020 11: 29 New
              34
              Quote: 2 level advisor
              as well as instead of Lukoil in your post a couple of dozen company names to put the trading country, and I completely agree with your post ..

              I will add my vision too. In order to do what you suggested, you must first nationalize the supreme power in Russia... But those who grabbed it in 1991 will not give it up voluntarily. In 1996, Zyuganov tried, having enlisted the support of the people in the elections, but the owners of the shares of OOO Rossiya explained to him in an understandable way that he should leave this business if he wanted him, his family members, and associates to survive.
              1. GUSAR
                GUSAR April 12 2020 12: 32 New
                23
                And Zyuga was not upset. He sat down in the warm place of a regular oppositionist and has been sitting there for a quarter of a century. And everything is fine with him, and if questions arise, then immediately "and what I, I have no power, it's them." There is no responsibility either. Not life but raspberries
                1. kjhg
                  kjhg April 12 2020 14: 45 New
                  20
                  Quote: GUSAR
                  But Zyuga was not upset.

                  Of course I was upset.
                  Quote: GUSAR
                  Not life but raspberries

                  I agree. Zyuganov, through his actions or, rather, inaction, discredited the entire communist movement in the eyes of the people. He is satisfied with the current government by 100%.
                2. Rzzz
                  Rzzz April 12 2020 23: 03 New
                  +4
                  And not only Zyuganov. All three of our "kind of opposition parties" are absolutely the same. All three in turn issue absolutely impassable bills, but on key positions, such as zeroing, they vote with the edrom.
              2. major147
                major147 April 12 2020 12: 43 New
                -7
                Quote: kjhg
                Quote: 2 level advisor
                as well as instead of Lukoil in your post a couple of dozen company names to put the trading country, and I completely agree with your post ..

                I will add my vision too. In order to do what you suggested, you must first nationalize the supreme power in Russia... But those who grabbed it in 1991 will not give it up voluntarily. In 1996, Zyuganov tried, having enlisted the support of the people in the elections, but the owners of the shares of OOO Rossiya explained to him in an understandable way that he should leave this business if he wanted him, his family members, and associates to survive.

                Yes, communists in power! Levchenko for example. He has such a hatred for EP that he is its symbol - he kills sleeping bears. And he has many other merits. Or the Khakass communist Konovalov. Representatives of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation fiercely defended the candidacy of a young party member, Valentin Konovalov, forcing him to a responsible post. It was they who agitated the inhabitants of the republic to vote for Konovalov, promising the population a change for the better. However, almost two years later, they radically changed their minds. "What Konovalov promised was not fulfilled."
                1. major147
                  major147 April 12 2020 13: 33 New
                  -4
                  Quote: major147
                  Quote: kjhg
                  Quote: 2 level advisor
                  as well as instead of Lukoil in your post a couple of dozen company names to put the trading country, and I completely agree with your post ..

                  I will add my vision too. In order to do what you suggested, you must first nationalize the supreme power in Russia... But those who grabbed it in 1991 will not give it up voluntarily. In 1996, Zyuganov tried, having enlisted the support of the people in the elections, but the owners of the shares of OOO Rossiya explained to him in an understandable way that he should leave this business if he wanted him, his family members, and associates to survive.

                  Yes, communists in power! Levchenko for example. He has such a hatred for EP that he is its symbol - he kills sleeping bears. And he has many other merits. Or the Khakass communist Konovalov. Representatives of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation fiercely defended the candidacy of a young party member, Valentin Konovalov, forcing him to a responsible post. It was they who agitated the inhabitants of the republic to vote for Konovalov, promising the population a change for the better. However, almost two years later, they radically changed their minds. "What Konovalov promised was not fulfilled."

                  Why silently minus !? True eyes prick?
                2. kjhg
                  kjhg April 12 2020 15: 08 New
                  15
                  Quote: major147
                  Levchenko for example. He has such a hatred for EP that he is her symbol - he kills bears with sleeping

                  I did not see. Apparently you mean bear hunting in the den? I do not know how in this particular case, but the shooting of bears living near the settlements, in most cases, is a necessary and necessary measure. And to do this is safest in the winter during hibernation.
                  Quote: major147
                  And he has many other merits.

                  I am amazed at you, really. Give some small, almost innocent examples at a time when there is no place to put the stigma on the representatives of the ruling gang. There are tons of gold in the cellars, and tons of cash in apartments, and roofing, and extortion, and the drug business, and much, much more, you’ll get tired of listing almost everything that is in the criminal code. And this is all during their work in power.
                  Quote: major147
                  And he has many other merits. Or the Khakass communist Konovalov. Representatives of the Communist Party party fiercely defended the candidacy of a young member of the same party, Valentin Konovalov, reading him to a responsible post. It was they who campaigned for the residents of the republic to vote for Konovalov, promising the population a change for the better.

                  Well done, they did the right thing and, by the way, then defeated the gangster state machine.
                  Quote: major147
                  However, after almost two years, they radically changed their minds.

                  Is that how you defined it? Personally interviewed? Konovalov quite successfully ruled the region, despite the total false propaganda against him. This was clearly seen in the growth of revenues to the regional budget, good economic growth, increased social support for citizens and much more.
                  Quote: major147
                  "What Konovalov promised was not fulfilled."

                  And what exactly has not been done yet? And how much can be accomplished in two years in addition to the successes already achieved? With the elimination of the consequences of flooding, the federal authorities specifically threw him. From all screens, all sorts of Mudko brazenly lied that they had allocated money for the construction of houses to all the victims, although this money never came to the region. In Moscow, in every possible way, the approval of the list of victims and the amount of money needed was delayed. The authorities once again proved that these are ordinary bandits acting according to gang methods to eliminate competitors.
                  Why silently minus !? True eyes prick?
                  I did not minus, although I did not like your words. I look, and without me there are enough "connoisseurs" of your lies.
                  1. major147
                    major147 April 12 2020 19: 06 New
                    -12
                    I did not see.

                    Well, if you have not seen, then this is not in nature. Cover your eyes tight!
                    I am amazed at you, really.

                    How strange you are. When the governor is a communist
                    personally
                    "saves" people from a bear sleeping in their den or his "merits in saving" people from floods, you do not see, but how the law enforcement officers tied the criminals - your gas opened miraculously.
                    there is no place to put stamps on the representatives of the ruling gang.

                    Where is the gang? In the government of the country? Do you have evidence of their gang activity? Have you already filed a complaint with law enforcement about the gang you exposed?
                    Is that how you defined it? Personally interviewed?

                    “It's bad when a politician initially lied, knowing full well that he was using people's desire for a better life and deliberately deceiving their expectations. For example, by promising to pay interest on mortgages to large families from the treasury or to revive the region's industry. - This is written by the Representative of the initiative group for recalling the head of Khakassia, Alexander Andreev. He is a communist, do you believe him? Or is he "not that" communist?
                    your lies.
                    You accused me of lying. Can you prove that my words are a lie? Provide evidence, otherwise you will be responsible for defamation, you are a supporter of the rule of law, as you identify the bandits.
                    1. kjhg
                      kjhg April 12 2020 19: 47 New
                      +5
                      Major, answer honestly, do you work in a trash can? The style of your writing does not just say, but shouts about it.
                      1. major147
                        major147 April 12 2020 19: 49 New
                        -1
                        Quote: kjhg
                        Major, answer honestly, do you work in a trash can?

                        Is that what you call? I do not know such a structure in Russia.
                        Are you writing from the zone?
                      2. kjhg
                        kjhg April 12 2020 19: 59 New
                        +1
                        So guessed it. It’s just that you can see it very well. It is well known that such work of people does not do better and smarter, unfortunately.
                      3. major147
                        major147 April 12 2020 20: 08 New
                        0
                        Quote: kjhg
                        So guessed it. It’s just that you can see it very well. It is well known that such work of people does not do better and smarter.

                        With such insight, do you sit on VO !? You clearly underestimate yourself! I have to disappoint you, I didn’t work with the police, the FSB and whoever you still consider to be “stupid”. You made a mistake, and not only in that. If you rummage around on VO, you will even find my photos in the Caucasian war, where I commanded a company. Well, okay, what is Russia without its troubles?
                        Well, what about the answer for your words about lies?
                      4. kjhg
                        kjhg April 12 2020 20: 47 New
                        +3
                        Quote: major147
                        I have to disappoint you, I didn’t work in the police, the FSB and whoever you consider to be “stupid”.

                        So I made a mistake, if, of course, you believe your words.
                        Quote: major147
                        If you rummage around in, you will even find my photos in the Caucasian war, where I commanded a company.

                        Experienced, then. Such people are respected.
                        Quote: major147
                        Well, all right, what Russia is without its troubles?

                        Well, experienced, I can’t accept it, although I agree with the meaning of this expression.
                        Quote: major147
                        Well, what about the answer for your words about lies?

                        As for the lies, in my opinion, I have already indicated above. Firstly, this concerns the loss of confidence in the Konovalov population of Khakassia. Secondly, regarding the failure to fulfill their promises. Read carefully.
                      5. major147
                        major147 April 12 2020 20: 51 New
                        +1
                        [quote = kjhg] Read carefully. [/ Quote]
                        [quote] of your lies. [/ quote Who promised whom to whom and what who didn’t fulfill it is another conversation, but you personally blamed me for the lie! How to be A man should be responsible for his words?
                      6. kjhg
                        kjhg April 12 2020 21: 26 New
                        0
                        Quote: major147
                        Who promised something to someone and why someone did not fulfill it, this is a different conversation, but you personally blamed me for lying!

                        Major, how else can I write so that you understand ??? You accused Konovalov of not fulfilling promises and losing his support among the population of Khakassia. I wrote and now I write that this is a lie. I explained above why I think so.
                        How long will you "catch up"?
                      7. major147
                        major147 April 12 2020 22: 38 New
                        +1
                        Quote: kjhg
                        Quote: major147
                        Who promised something to someone and why someone did not fulfill it, this is a different conversation, but you personally blamed me for lying!

                        Major, how else can I write so that you understand ??? You accused Konovalov of not fulfilling promises and losing his support among the population of Khakassia. I wrote and now I write that this is a lie. I explained above why I think so.
                        How long will you "catch up"?

                        Why are you pretending to be stupid !? I wrote:"
                        it writes the representative of the initiative group recall of the head of Khakassia, Alexander Andreev
                        . "ie these are his words! Give a link to the article? But you write -" your lie "(your words?) ie I am lying to you! Or am I not lying? You will decide whether I am a liar or not specifically. Just yes or no.
    2. Jager
      Jager April 12 2020 19: 47 New
      +7
      How much did the United Russia party promise?) I am generally silent about the "guarantor"
      1. major147
        major147 April 12 2020 19: 52 New
        -1
        Quote: Jager
        How much did the United Russia party promise?) I am generally silent about the "guarantor"

        And I never said that the current ones are better than anyone else. I mean, "change something for that, just waste time." Those who piously believe that someone will come and make the life of the people better are at least naive, not to say rudely.
  2. Sardanapalus
    Sardanapalus April 13 2020 07: 04 New
    -1
    And we would still endure Zyuganov’s 25th year. This is such a tradition. From a warm place only forward feet.
  • WIKI
    WIKI April 12 2020 15: 30 New
    13
    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
    as well as instead of Lukoil in your post a couple of dozen company names to put the trading country and I completely agree
    Why cut a chicken that lays golden eggs? For starters, you may need to deal with inefficient state-owned companies.
  • Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A April 12 2020 15: 50 New
    +4
    Quote: Vladimir16
    Lukoil needs to be nationalized.

    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
    and also instead of Lukoil in your post a couple of dozen company names

    Suddenly
    Quote: L. Fedun
    I would give an example of the Brest Peace when the Bolsheviks in 1918 were forced to make a deal with Germany for various reasons

    About nationalization, everything is clear and correct. BUT!
    I almost fell off my chair when I read that one of the main capitalists of Russia refers to the Bolshevik experience ... wassat

    Since THIS remembered the Bolsheviks, so be consistent - to nationalize!

    Only I doubt that L. Fedun will go to the drivers of the minibus. The same in their places will remain. And cut the money which paths are established, and so will go further.

    The system needs to be changed, not the sign. And this is hardly - "a free opportunity for the minority to appropriate the results of the majority" (Karl Marx) - this is the main achievement of our "democracy" of 91/93.
  • Topol M
    Topol M April 13 2020 13: 59 New
    +1
    + Rosneft + Gazprom and all private companies that are engaged in mining! How comrade is missing Stalin on these thieves, or the Chinese comrades with their executions of corrupt officials.
  • ccsr
    ccsr April 12 2020 11: 21 New
    10
    Quote: Vladimir16
    Lukoil needs to be nationalized. a bunch of cheeky fat sellers selling national wealth.

    It will not work without consequences for us, because Lukoil is almost an American company, and our owners only work for the owners of this multinational corporation:
    Alekperov owns 27,33% of LUKOIL, Fedun - 10,26%. At the end of 2019, they will receive dividends of 102,62 billion rubles. and 38,53 billion rubles. If they transfer to the special fund to support the company all dividends for the past year, the company will receive more than 140 billion rubles. - This is comparable to 25% of the company's initial investment program for 2020.

    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/business/11/04/2020/5e91bc249a794743d358a77c
    Alikperov and Fedun are not even allowed to withdraw personal profits from the company, but are forced to invest in the development of Lukoil, which means that the company is run by completely different shareholders.
    So any attempt to nationalize this company will result in the seizure of the assets of our other companies at the request of the United States - we were in such a stalemate because we were too naive in the nineties.
    In general, everything that comes from Lukoil will never be in Russia's favor, as well as the lies that the owners of this company are spreading.
    1. Doctor
      Doctor April 12 2020 11: 27 New
      +7
      In general, everything that comes from Lukoil will never be in Russia's favor, as well as the lies that the owners of this company are spreading.

      I'm also not a fan of the United States, but now is the time for objective assessments.

      LUKOIL has the best gasoline in Russia. It is a fact.
      What Fedun said is also a fact.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr April 12 2020 11: 38 New
        +5
        Quote: Arzt
        LUKOIL has the best gasoline in Russia. It is a fact.

        For many years I refuel only at Tatneft, and believe me, gas there is no worse, but cheaper.
        Quote: Arzt
        What Fedun said is also a fact.

        How to prove it? Are we in the position of the collapse of tsarist Russia? I do not believe.
        1. Doctor
          Doctor April 12 2020 11: 58 New
          +2
          How to prove it? Are we in the position of the collapse of tsarist Russia? I do not believe.


          Any compromise, of course, always has two sides - both positive and negative. I would give an example of the Brest Peace when the Bolsheviks in 1918 were forced, for various reasons, to make a deal with Germany, which was humiliating and difficult. I have something like this analogy.

          But let's see what alternatives could be, imagine that there would be no new deal to reduce production. According to various estimates, 40–45 days are left, after which all oil storages [in the world] will be flooded.

          At the end of March, we were selling some batches of Urals oil at a negative price, this brought us more than 1 thousand rubles. loss (per ton. - RBC). If there hadn’t been a deal, in 30–40 days we would still have started shutting down the wells at a price, relatively speaking, of $ 15–20 per barrel, without actually receiving a normal cash flow for either the oil industry or the budget — the export duty would practically be reset.

          Now we can expect that the oil price range of $ 30–40 will remain. In this case, the Russian Federation will receive in the form of cash flow $ 70-80 million of additional income per day. This is the answer to the question, is this deal right or not.


          Read more at RBC:
          https://www.rbc.ru/business/11/04/2020/5e91acab9a79473e09a92356
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich April 12 2020 12: 59 New
            -8
            Quote: Arzt

            Any compromise, of course, always has two sides - both positive and negative. I would give an example of the Brest Peace when the Bolsheviks in 1918 were forced, for various reasons, to make a deal with Germany, which was humiliating and difficult. I have something like this analogy.

            full time this fedun from Lukoil: compare terrible tragedy with the loss of a third of the territories of European Russia with .... price fluctuations, albeit an important one, then just a product is complete tabilism.

            Yesterday there was more, today, because of the crown and pr-less, tomorrow there will be more again, etc.
            Probably, personally he lost before fig, disfranchised ....

            let him do his own business and do not climb wherever sleep, not snout.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A April 12 2020 15: 52 New
              -1
              Quote: Olgovich
              full time this fedun from Lukoil

              Quote: Olgovich
              let him do his own business and do not climb where neither sleep nor snout.

              His business is to cut down the forest in Krasnoyarsk. For soldering.
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 April 12 2020 16: 11 New
              +1
              Quote: Olgovich
              full time this fedun from Lukoil

              Stop insulting the team of Spartak football players. sad
            3. ccsr
              ccsr April 12 2020 16: 30 New
              -1
              Quote: Olgovich
              full feed this Fedun from Lukoil: to compare the terrible tragedy with the loss of a third of the territories of European Russia with .... price fluctuations, albeit an important one, it’s just a commodity is a complete tabilism.

              I completely agree with this assessment - Fedun is just a racket if he decided to compare that catastrophe with the current price spikes.
            4. Doctor
              Doctor April 12 2020 19: 56 New
              0
              full feed this Fedun from Lukoil: compare the terrible tragedy with the loss of a third of the territories of European Russia

              Andrei, do you allow further disintegration of Russia in the current conditions?
          2. ccsr
            ccsr April 12 2020 16: 32 New
            +1
            Quote: Arzt
            I would give an example of the Brest Peace when the Bolsheviks in 1918 were forced to make a deal with Germany for various reasons,

            Olgovich answered you about this example - I fully support him.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich April 13 2020 05: 56 New
              -1
              Quote: ccsr
              Olgovich answered you about this example - I fully support him.

              I agree!
        2. Doctor
          Doctor April 12 2020 12: 04 New
          0
          For many years I refuel only at Tatneft, and believe me, gas there is no worse, but cheaper.

          Cheaper, but worse.
          I have just next Tatneft and Lukoil for 10 years had the opportunity to compare.
          Due to the fact that Lukoilovsky burns out cleaner and the dynamics are higher, in the end, the consumption per circle is about the same. But it will not be necessary to clean the timing.
          1. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 April 12 2020 12: 27 New
            +5
            Quote: Arzt
            But it will not be necessary to clean the timing.

            ?? laughing maybe fuel pump?
            1. Doctor
              Doctor April 12 2020 12: 47 New
              +2
              maybe fuel pump?

              Gas distribution mechanism.
              1. Tiksi-3
                Tiksi-3 April 12 2020 12: 48 New
                +6
                Quote: Arzt
                Gas distribution mechanism.

                wassat , what do you mean by timing ?? .... what is there to clean and why? wassat
                from poor quality fuel - the FUEL system quacks !!
              2. Doctor
                Doctor April 12 2020 12: 59 New
                +1
                what do you mean by timing ?? .... what is there to clean and why? wassat
                from poor quality fuel - the FUEL system quacks!

                While refueling at Tatneft and similar filters, too, changed to run. But more often - cleaning nozzles, replacing candles and a lambda probe. Then the familiar guys at the service showed two valves from the same cars with one mileage, but one refuel only on Lukoil, the other anywhere. After that, only Lukoil.
                Never an advertisement, look through the forums of truckers, they know something ...
              3. Tiksi-3
                Tiksi-3 April 12 2020 13: 04 New
                +3
                Quote: Arzt
                After that, only Lukoil.

                it makes no sense to me to talk about it, since I myself refuel only on Lukoil, but the gas station - the gas station is different .... it all depends on the director, or not.
              4. Doctor
                Doctor April 12 2020 13: 06 New
                +4
                I don’t need to talk about it, because I myself refuel only on Lukoil

                Plus for your common sense laughing
            2. The popuas
              The popuas April 12 2020 13: 45 New
              +1
              We have Lukoil gas station, but the owner of the IP ... only for the name does he pay a percentage of the profit for the brand, something like this hi
            3. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor April 12 2020 14: 00 New
              +2
              Lukoil also brings fuel to him, and so - a lot of gas stations belonging to IP ..
            4. Sandor Clegane
              Sandor Clegane April 12 2020 16: 32 New
              +2
              Quote: Popuas
              We have Lukoil refueling, but the owner of the IP

              95% means that the fuel is not from Lukoil, which is cheaper and pays a franchise, it’s dangerous to pour on such
  • akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound April 12 2020 13: 39 New
    +3
    What can you believe? The fact that Lukoilovsky gasoline, depending on the region, fluctuates from the state of "wow!" to full mr.? I refueled with such and such. What is the authoritative argument here?
  • ccsr
    ccsr April 12 2020 16: 41 New
    0
    Quote: Arzt
    Cheaper, but worse.

    I don’t know where you found it worse, but for many years (more than 10) I have refueled at the same gas stations of Tatneft (by the way, on the M-4 highway, too, when I drive south), and I have never come to my authorized service There were complaints about the quality of the fuel used.
    Quote: Arzt
    Due to the fact that Lukoilovsky burns out cleaner and the dynamics are higher, in the end, the consumption per circle is about the same.

    I don’t know the brand of your car, but I have an on-board computer and it takes into account the quality of fuel, so the optimality is solved without me - I can only choose one of three driving modes.
    Quote: Arzt
    But it will not be necessary to clean the timing.

    This was true when I myself did everything on the Zhiguli - now this is a long time ago, because only serviced by the official.
  • knn54
    knn54 April 12 2020 12: 14 New
    +2
    Historians are still arguing about the Brest Peace — a shame or a necessity.
    The split was even among the ruling elite: N. Bukharin, F. Dzerzhinsky and others were against it.
    The only excuse is to save the RSFSR.
    The lost lands (with interest) returned I, to Stalin.
    Then ALL responsibility for the consequences (obscene / unhappy), according to the contract, was taken by V.I. Lenin.
    It turns out (if we compare these events) that without an agreement with OPEC, the country would be "bent"?
    1. Overlock
      Overlock April 12 2020 12: 27 New
      +9
      Quote: knn54
      Lost lands (with interest) returned And, to Stalin

      he’d better be Zap. Ukraine did not return
      1. Igoresha
        Igoresha April 12 2020 14: 11 New
        +1
        he is Zap. Ukraine did not return


        West Ukraine defeated the Soviet Union?
  • Tiksi-3
    Tiksi-3 April 12 2020 12: 26 New
    +5
    Quote: ccsr
    For many years I refuel only at Tatneft, and believe me, gas there is no worse, but cheaper.

    I can’t say about gasoline, but TATNEFT’s solarium is full of guantanomo !!, they even write about S in certificates and it even kills the fuel system !!
    1. Motorist
      Motorist April 12 2020 18: 58 New
      0
      Sulfur lubricates the fuel equipment. Sulfur oxides are harmful in case of low temperature of exhaust gases, as well as on the walls of bushings at their low temperature; but this is not your case - it applies to push-pull long-stroke ADSs.
  • Tiksi-3
    Tiksi-3 April 12 2020 11: 41 New
    -2
    Quote: Vladimir16
    Lukoil needs to be nationalized.

    In fact, he is already nationalized and the party in power is the beneficiary .... or does anyone have doubts?
    1. akarfoxhound
      akarfoxhound April 12 2020 13: 42 New
      -1
      The controlling stake in Lukoil is a foreign company. And Lukoil is the only oil industry in Russia with such management
  • Runoway
    Runoway April 12 2020 11: 47 New
    +5
    a bunch of cheaters

    It takes 70% on excise tax on each liter of gasoline, 31 rubles to the treasury from a liter of 95th and ...
    no money left

    And this is the cost of everything from food to other goods
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 12 2020 11: 54 New
    16
    Lukoil is an efficient and profitable company, unlike Rosneft, entangled
    debt from a variety of failed transactions (such as acquisitions
    TNK-BP).
    In the world, all state oil companies are slipping into squandering funds
    of these firms by government officials with incredible salaries.
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha April 12 2020 14: 12 New
      +3
      in squandering
      Yes, it would be interesting to compare the salaries of top managers of Lukoil and Rosneft in the table
    2. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich April 12 2020 19: 09 New
      0
      Lukoil's profit does not concern me personally. And when the country finds itself in the "fifth point", private campaigns (for example, Lukoil) save the state with money from the treasury (that is, with my money - I pay taxes). The question is - why is an efficient and profitable Lukoil not saving itself? Oil prices fell into negative territory - gasoline rose in price - oil prices would rise in price - gasoline would rise in price.
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 April 12 2020 12: 32 New
    -1
    And after nationalization, the state will have to directly spend much larger amounts on the development of the company, possibly an order of magnitude. So this is still a question of whether there will be a benefit to the budget.
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor April 12 2020 14: 03 New
      +1
      that is, you doubt the ability of the state to sell gas at a profit, unlike private traders?
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 April 12 2020 16: 16 New
        0
        Do you think that oil companies are only selling gasoline? Now the state only collects taxes from private oil giants, well, sometimes it helps them. In the case of nationalization, government spending on the maintenance of oil production, oil refining, and exploration enterprises sharply increases. But you can’t collect taxes from state corporations and state-owned companies in the previous volume. In general, one must think here. I am for a reasonable combination of public, private (partly with the participation of foreigners) and mixed (with state participation from predominant to significant) companies in the oil and gas sector of the economy. By the way, the state in the Russian Federation is very strongly represented in this sector.
        1. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor April 12 2020 19: 55 New
          +2
          Well, for starters, we can say that taking, for example, Rosneft, half of the costs are borne by the state. I am for the complete nationalization of the spheres of sale of the country's natural resources. They will be bought anyway, and it does not really depend on the top manager, and on a large scale, the main work is done by ordinary, non-top workers, they will be the same on the issues of "oil production, oil refining, geological exploration", the state company will hire them - and that's all. Only profit will remain 100% in the state.
          Natural resources, this product is extracted from the bowels of the earth, roughly speaking from the Russian land, there is a demand for it in the world and it doesn’t really need advertising, here the key factor is the selling price.
          But everything else, even where the private sector wants to settle down, their talents are needed there, what to think up, how to produce, where to sell.
  • evgenii67
    evgenii67 April 12 2020 12: 37 New
    +7
    Quote: Vladimir16
    Lukoil needs to be nationalized. a bunch of cheeky fat sellers selling national wealth.

    Yes Yes! Nationalize, give all the assets of Rosneft and personally to Mr. Sechen.
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik April 12 2020 13: 05 New
    +9
    Quote: Vladimir16
    Lukoil needs to be nationalized. a bunch of cheeky fat sellers selling national wealth. Converting oil to bucks.
    Lukoil workers will remain their own, but profit will flow to the budget.
    And there will not be any humiliation.

    Then all the "friends" of the president to heaps, they all stuck to the national property, in general, without exception, swindlers and freeloaders.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 12 2020 13: 50 New
    10
    Quote: Vladimir16
    Lukoil needs to be nationalized. a bunch of cheeky fat sellers selling national wealth. Converting oil to bucks.

    good
    In Lukoil, the OPEC + agreement was called a “humiliating but necessary” deal.
    The deal was humiliating when all oil reserves were copied to different Feduns, Khodorkovsky and appointed to the leadership of the Sechins and Schroeders.
    The reverse operation will be necessary, and no one will get anywhere from it. It is time not only to pay attention to where our natural resources go, but also how and for what means they were acquired ...
    And we are still waiting for compensation on deposits, and Gref makes faces at the forums.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 12 2020 15: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: ROSS 42
      It’s time not only to pay attention to where our natural resources go, but also how and for what means they were acquired.

      Let's start paying attention to this - there are not enough zones in Russia. In existing shkonki it is necessary to build in 6 floors.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx April 12 2020 16: 12 New
        +4
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Let's start paying attention to this - there are not enough zones in Russia.

        And here it is not necessary to keep them in the zones - MSW recycling company. Let the garbage sorted. Such enterprises in Russia are in demand, and “qualified" personnel will be needed there all the time. Let's look at the reverse appeal from the “princes in the mud” ...
        I have no doubt in a huge competition for the position of foremen and shift supervisors ...
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A April 12 2020 16: 26 New
          +2
          Quote: ROSS 42
          I have no doubt in a huge competition for the position of foremen and shift supervisors ...

          good
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Let's look at the reverse appeal from the “princes in the mud” ...

          I somehow didn’t make it into princes, but I don’t threaten "in the mud" either. But I had to see those who flew so high that it is not visible from the ground, and then "in the mud." For some reason, they fall much deeper than an ordinary person could fall and look somehow in a special pity.

          I know a person who, in the 90s, owned two or three hundred kiosks in a million-plus city. For those times, remember, the king of the local spill. Now, not far from my house, he works as a janitor in the market, lives there, drinks bottles from the pharmacy. Some kind of eyes ... Like a beaten dog. At one time, he decided that he was a Boeing, nothing in the world could interrupt its flight or change direction, and the "fuel" would last for three lives. And here's the result - a broom, fanfurics, a gatehouse ....

          Psychology?
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A April 12 2020 16: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            At one time, he decided that he was a "Boeing", nothing in the world could interrupt his flight or change direction and the "fuel" would last for three lives. And here's the result - a broom, fanfurics, a gatehouse ....

      2. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich April 12 2020 19: 16 New
        +1
        To evict in "dead villages" - there are enough places for everyone and they will grow food for themselves. (by court order, former government officials, if anyone does not understand)
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  • antivirus
    antivirus April 12 2020 11: 49 New
    +1
    I am a supporter of "conspiracy theory"
    it was necessary to move, from the political reasons of the US LNG and "maintain a dialogue with them" - they paid with oil for a share of the gas market in Europe. exchange in 4-dimensional space.
    SP2 (maybe they will let them finish building) and other "pipe" projects require stability for the future.
    prestige above all.
    smooth descent with max gas prices was carried out using oil.
    How will it be in Amer LNG now?
    everything is very ambiguous and ...
    see dr com- you- my reasoning
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 12 2020 16: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: antivirus
      see dr com- you- my reasoning

      Your abbreviated comments and acronyms are very hard to read.
      Russia is not a country that should be on its knees. But mediocre figures got into power, accustomed to creating the appearance of work all their lives. They are able to "disfigure" the best undertakings, projects and plans either with long-term construction, or over-expenditure of funds, or with the "effectiveness" of management.
      The USA is not a country that should dictate to us the conditions of “partnership” under the sanctions list. By and large, SP-2 should worry Europe more, but not Russia. We have very urgent matters: for example, laying a water conduit to the Crimea in polypropylene construction ...
      As for blackmail. This is precisely what the United States did, exploding atomic bombs in Japan, which had practically capitulated, in order to bargain for itself a good jackpot on reparations. And we all know how US businessmen conducted trade with both Hitler and the USSR.
      And do not care what will happen to Trump, with American LNG and those infected with CoViD-19 ...
  • Redfox11
    Redfox11 April 12 2020 12: 36 New
    +1
    Finanz is an anti-Russian German publication, 80% of their headlines do not correspond to their own articles, and 80% of the articles consist of blunt stamped drafts and manipulations. In reality, the Saudis reduced from 12.3 to 8.5, the deal at the beginning of March was only about reducing 1.5 million barrels (Russia 500), now custody + will reduce 000 million and the USA Canada Norway 10 million.

    The March deal of 1.5 million, in the current conditions, did not solve anything, and Russia would still have to make such a big reduction now, due to the fact that all of Europe stood up (the main buyer of our oil) Many groan that the United States has not signed anything, it’s so for the antitrust law, but what does it matter if they have a 3 million barrels drop in production, and the papers signed with OPEC have no legal and economic consequences if they are not fulfilled, they can be wiped at any time. In essence, Russia will reduce 2.7 million under writing a letter to Filkin, the United States will reduce by 3 without any signatures, the Saudis will reduce by 3.7.

    The game is not over yet, whether America will be able to recover the losses of its 3 million barrels, because other countries will begin to increase production after recovery in demand and oil freezes by 40, Russia will certainly be able to.
    1. military_cat
      military_cat April 13 2020 14: 11 New
      0
      Quote: RedFox11
      can America recover the loss of its 3 million barrels

      As usual, a bunch of people will come running and take loans for renting drilling equipment as soon as the prospect looms that oil can be sold at least a little more expensive than payments on loans for rent. They were not limited to "filkin letters".

      Quote: RedFox11
      because other countries will begin to increase production
      But they will get in the way of "filkin literacy". Previously, they were performed or at least carefully pretended.

      Last time, cartel agreements essentially subsidized the US shale industry and cleared its place on the market, this time the same thing. It was not worth stepping on this rake again.
  • Stas157
    Stas157 April 12 2020 14: 13 New
    18
    Answering the question whether Russia will pay an adequate price, agreeing to reduce production by 2,5 million barrels per day, Fedun compared the deal with the "Brest Peace"which was humiliating for Russia, but necessary.

    The way it is. Only the cheers-patriots strongly disagree with this opinion. Otherwise, their succession of victories is broken!
  • Amin_vivec
    Amin_vivec April 12 2020 16: 18 New
    -4
    If the price stabilizes at 30-40 dollars, then this is not a defeat for sure. This is just a little below the profitability of the American shale industry)))) The question is how much the Americans will tolerate this)))
  • Blackmokona
    Blackmokona April 12 2020 10: 54 New
    +8
    US oil production statistics
    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCRFPUS2&f=W
    In January 2013, 7 million barrels of oil were produced per day.
    January for all years
    2014 8,1
    2015 9,1
    2016 9,2
    2017 8,9
    2018 9,5
    2019 11,7
    2020 12,9

    April 4, 2020
    12,4 million barrels per day
  • Tusv
    Tusv April 12 2020 10: 56 New
    -15
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    In 2014-15, US oil production fell by 40%. And the rise began only in 2016.

    In 2014-15, Babamka Nam declared an oil war and essentially won. Filled oil storage at a cheap price and horseradish to extract expensive oil. Trump did not have such a feint. Like be. All the oil workers of the world gathered in the meadow and played the game, who will score the most
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi April 12 2020 11: 00 New
      +1
      Congratulations.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv April 12 2020 11: 07 New
        -10
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Congratulations.

        With what? Did Tram win that he scored more goals or didn’t the pipelines stop?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi April 12 2020 11: 09 New
          11
          Quote: Tusv
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Congratulations.

          With what? Did Tram win that he scored more goals or didn’t the pipelines stop?

          Well, you won? Or did I misunderstand?
          1. yfast
            yfast April 12 2020 11: 32 New
            12
            Great Pu and Co. clearly lost, if it can be called a game. The couchs always win, even if they kick their ass, they do not need to admit their victory.
            1. kjhg
              kjhg April 12 2020 11: 39 New
              19
              Quote: yfast
              Great Pu and Co. clearly lost, if it can be called a game. The couchs always win, even if they kick their ass, they do not need to admit their victory.

              The fact that Putin’s streamers present us with a victory is the same as the victories of the Ukrainians in Izvarinsky, Ilovaysky and Debaltsevsky coppers. Well, how could it be so costly ... with oil? Why the hell started a price war with the Saudis, knowing that within a week or two they can increase oil production by almost 3 million barrels?
              1. svoit
                svoit April 12 2020 12: 14 New
                -13
                Quote: kjhg
                Why the heck started a price war with the Saudis,

                He did not start it, Novak and the oil lobby in the government started it, Mishustin does not cook in this matter, so he managed to convince Putin. Well, Putin agreed on the terms "as always" at his own peril and risk - "burn out" - I'll say thank you, no - to the wall. The second truth is still dragging on.
                1. Overlock
                  Overlock April 12 2020 12: 29 New
                  24
                  Quote: svoit
                  He did not start it, started Novak and the oil lobby in the government

                  those. You want to say that with the participation of Russia in the fateful negotiations, the president is self-alienating from the development and adoption of decisions?
            2. Snail N9
              Snail N9 April 12 2020 11: 40 New
              15
              Here is a comment from YaPa:
              Reduction in production by 2,5 million barrels per day for Russia - is it a lot or a lot? The answer can be taken from the available data on domestic oil demand. In Russia, it is 3,2 million barrels per day. (By the way, even Saudi Arabia consumes more - 3,9 million barrels. The consumption structure, of course, is different, since Russia also consumes gas (460 billion cubic meters per year versus Saudi 100), but certain questions regarding the relations of economic power already arise) .

              Russia's export opportunities are production minus domestic consumption. With a reduction in production to 8,47 million barrels, Russian exports will amount to 5 million barrels per day, compared to 8,15 million before the deal. OPEC + 2.0 reduces exports by a third. This, of course, is a purely calculated value, since in recent weeks demand for Russian oil has fallen much more than a third, and the volumes sold had to be stimulated with absolutely fantastic premiums.

              Oil was budgeted at a price of $ 42, or $ 342 million per day. Now, at current prices (31,8 Urals grade as of April 10), the revenue ceiling is $ 160 million. Less than half. And this despite the fact that for the sold oil you still have to pay a substantial discount to the buyer - from 5 to 10 dollars and more. That is, real revenue will be somewhere around 120 million dollars a day. And this is almost three times less than what was budgeted. In fact, with such indicators, the country in the remaining 8 months will receive less than $ 54 billion, or 4,4 trillion rubles.

              It must be taken into account that, in fact, a reduction in production would have taken place anyway, and perhaps by about the same amount. The problem is in collapsed demand, so it would have to be cut anyway. First, an additional 0,5 million, then another, then they would add it again. But the essence of the planned reduction was to keep the price in an acceptable range of about $ 50. And she would have remained so if it had not been for the door slamming. Accordingly, the current 5 million barrels per day (and we would have achieved them anyway) had to be multiplied not by the current 32 dollars, but by more than 50. These 20 dollars per barrel are what the Russian leadership banally lowered into the latrine.

              Actually, this is the result and the price of a multi-stage strategic operation to destroy the US shale industry. So, in any case, at first our propaganda squealed, after which, without taking a breath, it turned the arrows to Saudi Arabia. They did not explain why Novak slammed the door in early March. The saying "while the fat one dries, the thin one will die" is unknown to the Russian leadership. At the same time, shale production in the United States is alive and well and as soon as the price rises, it will rise from the ashes. Which, of course, we will try not to notice. Since this will destroy the induced illusion.

              Explain the policies of the Russian authorities and the motives of the behavior of senior leaders should not be economists or political scientists. This is the diocese of psychiatrists, and those involved in chronic and chronic cases. In our particular case, treatment is already pointless, since in addition to purely mental problems, there are obvious and purely organic changes.

              I have always been curious - where did our Kremlin punks end up with about 5 trillion dollars that were paid for the sold natural resources over the past 20 years. Well, well, a trillion was stolen, for a trillion, the tiles were changed ten times and the Olympics were held with the World Championship. Well, there are wars, toys, all sorts of garbage with unpredictable trajectories, and so on for the delight of the "solntselikogo" ChSV. That is, they let them go nowhere. Where are the others? But they, the rest, just disappeared. This is the price of cretinism when making decisions. The well-known anecdote about two glass balls in a dark room is just about them, about our leaders. They will break one ball and lose the other. A slamming door in Vienna in early March was worth $ 50 billion this year alone. And in twenty years, how many such idiotic decisions were there? This is where they dropped the trillions.
              1. MMX
                MMX April 12 2020 11: 53 New
                -17
                Quote: Snail N9
                Here is a comment from YaPa:
                Reduction in production by 2,5 million barrels per day for Russia - is it a lot or a lot? The answer can be taken from the available data on domestic oil demand. In Russia, it is 3,2 million barrels per day. (By the way, even Saudi Arabia consumes more - 3,9 million barrels. The consumption structure, of course, is different, since Russia also consumes gas (460 billion cubic meters per year versus Saudi 100), but certain questions regarding the relations of economic power already arise) .

                Russia's export opportunities are production minus domestic consumption. With a reduction in production to 8,47 million barrels, Russian exports will amount to 5 million barrels per day, compared to 8,15 million before the deal. OPEC + 2.0 reduces exports by a third. This, of course, is a purely calculated value, since in recent weeks demand for Russian oil has fallen much more than a third, and the volumes sold had to be stimulated with absolutely fantastic premiums.

                Oil was budgeted at a price of $ 42, or $ 342 million per day. Now, at current prices (31,8 Urals grade as of April 10), the revenue ceiling is $ 160 million. Less than half. And this despite the fact that for the sold oil you still have to pay a substantial discount to the buyer - from 5 to 10 dollars and more. That is, real revenue will be somewhere around 120 million dollars a day. And this is almost three times less than what was budgeted. In fact, with such indicators, the country in the remaining 8 months will receive less than $ 54 billion, or 4,4 trillion rubles.

                It must be taken into account that, in fact, a reduction in production would have taken place anyway, and perhaps by about the same amount. The problem is in collapsed demand, so it would have to be cut anyway. First, an additional 0,5 million, then another, then they would add it again. But the essence of the planned reduction was to keep the price in an acceptable range of about $ 50. And she would have remained so if it had not been for the door slamming. Accordingly, the current 5 million barrels per day (and we would have achieved them anyway) had to be multiplied not by the current 32 dollars, but by more than 50. These 20 dollars per barrel are what the Russian leadership banally lowered into the latrine.

                Actually, this is the result and the price of a multi-stage strategic operation to destroy the US shale industry. So, in any case, at first our propaganda squealed, after which, without taking a breath, it turned the arrows to Saudi Arabia. They did not explain why Novak slammed the door in early March. The saying "while the fat one dries, the thin one will die" is unknown to the Russian leadership. At the same time, shale production in the United States is alive and well and as soon as the price rises, it will rise from the ashes. Which, of course, we will try not to notice. Since this will destroy the induced illusion.

                Explain the policies of the Russian authorities and the motives of the behavior of senior leaders should not be economists or political scientists. This is the diocese of psychiatrists, and those involved in chronic and chronic cases. In our particular case, treatment is already pointless, since in addition to purely mental problems, there are obvious and purely organic changes.

                I have always been curious - where did our Kremlin punks end up with about 5 trillion dollars that were paid for the sold natural resources over the past 20 years. Well, well, a trillion was stolen, for a trillion, the tiles were changed ten times and the Olympics were held with the World Championship. Well, there are wars, toys, all sorts of garbage with unpredictable trajectories, and so on for the delight of the "solntselikogo" ChSV. That is, they let them go nowhere. Where are the others? But they, the rest, just disappeared. This is the price of cretinism when making decisions. The well-known anecdote about two glass balls in a dark room is just about them, about our leaders. They will break one ball and lose the other. A slamming door in Vienna in early March was worth $ 50 billion this year alone. And in twenty years, how many such idiotic decisions were there? This is where they dropped the trillions.


                Very "valuable" and "important" information. And the source is "mighty".
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 April 12 2020 12: 20 New
                  19
                  Quote: MMX
                  Very "valuable" and "important" information. And the source is "mighty".

                  You also have nothing to do but copy the entire sheet.
                  1. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A April 12 2020 16: 01 New
                    -3
                    hi
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    Quote: MMX
                    Very "valuable" and "important" information. And the source is "mighty".

                    You also have nothing to do but copy the entire sheet.

                    And, which is characteristic, everything is so compact and concise.
                    The next time I want to read such volumes, I will not go to the YAP, but I will open "War and Peace".
            3. Tusv
              Tusv April 12 2020 12: 04 New
              +5
              Quote: yfast
              Great Pu and Co. clearly lost, if it can be called a game.

              Oh, what were the layouts before the oil war. Russia wins anyway. And then some kind of coronavirus was pinned and played in Chapaev, and on all the oil boards. Again, Russia and Canada turned out to be the most vulnerable. Bothering Moscow, a "gentle and gentle paws" regime was introduced. Russia's worst enemy buys gold from Us. Ahrenet.
              It was smooth on paper, but forgot about the ravines
            4. antique
              antique April 12 2020 14: 50 New
              +9
              A couple of days ago, a crowd of activists ate my post for writing about the loss of Russia and personally to the person sitting in the bunker. The mediocre, cowardly mnogoghodovodch once again lost. And perhaps for the first time this loud and monstrous in terms of its consequences loss is recognized within Russia. Congratulations to all the activists. You flew!
          2. Tusv
            Tusv April 12 2020 11: 39 New
            +1
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Well, you won? Or did I misunderstand?

            Read the comment below. Iran and Venezuela won, all the rest in the span., Including Russia. In general, nefiga members were measured when the plague in the yard
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi April 12 2020 11: 56 New
              +3
              Quote: Tusv
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              Well, you won? Or did I misunderstand?

              Read the comment below. Iran and Venezuela won, all the rest in the span., Including Russia. In general, nefiga members were measured when the plague in the yard

              Iran and Venezuela? request
              1. Tusv
                Tusv April 12 2020 12: 06 New
                -3
                Quote: Aaron Zawi
                Iran and Venezuela?

                Yes sir. Their quotas do not concern
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi April 12 2020 13: 01 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Tusv
                  Quote: Aaron Zawi
                  Iran and Venezuela?

                  Yes sir. Their quotas do not concern

                  So they have almost no volumes.
                  1. Tusv
                    Tusv April 12 2020 13: 14 New
                    -4
                    Quote: Aaron Zawi
                    So they have almost no volumes.

                    It depends on whom to compare. The three leaders of the United States, Saudi Arabia, Russia. Venezuela is a solid 4th place. About Iran. China knows more, but is unlikely to say
                  2. Aaron Zawi
                    Aaron Zawi April 12 2020 14: 10 New
                    +6
                    Quote: Tusv
                    Quote: Aaron Zawi
                    So they have almost no volumes.

                    It depends on whom to compare. The three leaders of the United States, Saudi Arabia, Russia. Venezuela is a solid 4th place. About Iran. China knows more, but is unlikely to say

                    Ostv. Venezuela and Iran have been mining for a long time in the ass.
                  3. Tusv
                    Tusv April 12 2020 14: 21 New
                    -3
                    Ostv. Venezuela and Iran have been mining for a long time in the ass.

                    So the three leaders are not a fool. Everyone else in in the butt Who would have thought that a well-developed transport system would pull down. But the whole thing is to announce that the storages are full and the worst thing is that they don’t lie hi
                2. doodlez
                  doodlez April 13 2020 00: 47 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Tusv
                  Venezuela solid 4th place

                  Canada 4th place
        2. Snail N9
          Snail N9 April 12 2020 11: 58 New
          11
          And now, more "reasoning", who doesn’t like it, you can not read, but immediately turn on the grasping "first channel" - there is always "only the truth and nothing but the truth" and "honest, truthful" analytics "from the" experts ":
          To begin with, Russia, which for 3 years was part of the OPEC + agreement for almost 3 years, practically did not reduce oil production. She played indicators - offset of associated petroleum gas, conversion factors for tons to barrels, etc. All of this understood, the Saudis saw it, but turned a blind eye - they needed a deal and did not need a scandal, which Russia brazenly used. However, the patience of the Saudis was drawing to a close. And everything exploded when Moscow began to act up about the next - absolutely necessary - production restrictions.

          The Saudis' revenge was terrible - they sharply increased oil production, displacing Russian oil from all markets and driving Russia into a corner. And she finally agreed to everything that the Saudis demanded. Full surrender.

          In fact, Russian oil companies were forced to pay for the tricks of the past 3 years. When they thought the trickiest ...

          According to the latest data, the OPEC + deal involves a reduction of 2,5 million barrels per day. Saudi Arabia and Russia. Seems equal amount? But only for the Saudis who have sharply increased production, this is simply a return to the levels of March of the current year - before the failure of the deal by Putin. But for Russia, this is a real reduction of 2,5 million, and now no one will take into account all well-known calculated tricks ...

          Although ... They will, of course. The Saudis need victory and a deal. They did with capricious Putin everything they wanted. But the Saudis do not need public scandals about Moscow’s non-compliance with the terms of the deal - they can drop the price of oil ... Only ¼ Russian production will not have enough “tricks”, the Kremlin will have to ensure a real reduction in production and a very strong one.

          The United States sharply reduced oil production: from April 28 to March 3, it collapsed by 0,6 million bpd (to 12,4 million). The shale men were forced to stop their rocking (otherwise production would be at a loss). And, of course, the United States blames this for their contribution to maintaining oil prices (however, this, of course, is a significant contribution). But the press Peskov immediately made a statement that the natural decline in US oil production could not be counted as a reduction to stabilize markets. Like, Moscow requires additional restrictions from the United States ... According to the forecast of the US Energy Information Administration (EIA), production in the States will fall in 2020 at such prices of 1,2 million bps (up to 11,8 million bps) . And in 2021 - another 0,7 million bps.

          Count this "natural decline" in production in the States? But who will ask Putin's opinion on this matter ... Trump will loudly announce the numbers, that's all. He will not sign any agreements anyway. Yes, and he does not have mechanisms to ensure control of production in the country - there, you know, a market economy, and not just one state-owned company or obedient oil industry workers, as in Russia.

          Mexico and Norway are twisting their tails - they, of course, want oil prices to rise, but so that production restrictions do not affect them ... The Saudis are crushing in every possible way, even trumping it from time to time. Perhaps these countries will be able to "jump off the train" cuts ...

          But the main market players still have a couple of scenarios left.

          1. For example, to put pressure on production restrictions not through OPEC +, but through G20. How much this is needed and how much pressure to push is still an open question. But if you can’t calm the oil market, why not?

          2️. There is generally a killer scenario for Putin. Maybe that's why he agrees to almost everything that is required of him?

          The US can easily impose an embargo on Russian oil exports, as they did with Venezuelan exports. Fortunately, there is a reason now - all Rosneft projects in Venezuela have become Russian state ones. That’s what the decision is: to get Rosneft out of attack, putting in jeopardy the whole country and all the other oil workers!
        3. Overlock
          Overlock April 12 2020 12: 36 New
          13
          Quote: Tusv
          Iran and Venezuela defeated

          they did not win, they are in flight. Iran has an embargo, Venezuela has US control.
          The winners are oil buyers, primarily China
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 12 2020 11: 57 New
    +3
    Trump does the same. Already in strategic oil storage
    cheap oil is poured into the USA. In May, all storage will be flooded to the eyeballs.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv April 12 2020 12: 11 New
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      In May, all storage will be flooded to the eyeballs.

      But didn’t you Alexei tell the VO world 2 weeks ago that in the USA they pay extra for unloading oil storage facilities? What has already been stolen, that only in May will be the eyeballs drinks
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh April 12 2020 12: 12 New
        +4
        I wrote about private oil storage facilities.
        And Trump will be filled with huge state ones.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv April 12 2020 12: 24 New
          -3
          Quote: voyaka uh
          And Trump will be filled with huge state ones.

          Where was oil once? And what about NAFTA. No one has canceled contracts with Canada, but it is pouring and pouring. As Reagan's secretary said, my eggs and holster will be visible soon
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh April 12 2020 12: 28 New
            +4
            I did not understand anything from your post, sorry hi
            1. Tusv
              Tusv April 12 2020 12: 45 New
              0
              Quote: voyaka uh
              I did not understand anything from your post, sorry

              Yes, cheap oil will hit the fountain. Transportation has declined, people are sitting at home, and pipelines work like that Swiss Rolex hi
            2. Tusv
              Tusv April 12 2020 12: 58 New
              0
              Well, bothering NAFTA is not the Ukrainian word oil, but the North American Free Trade Union. As be eurases in our
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 12 2020 16: 07 New
      +1
      hi
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Already in strategic oil storage
      cheap oil is poured into the USA. In May, all storage will be flooded to the eyeballs.

      Quite recently, I remember, our "Those Who to NavIrkhu" presented as an achievement that the United States had become our largest oil buyer.
      I'll see how this "joy" will respond ... Only together with "Them" will not be able to rejoice - we will here "rejoice" in the rise in gasoline prices. And "They" will "suffer" in Florida ...
  • DMB 75
    DMB 75 April 12 2020 11: 49 New
    20
    And I have one question - where was a bunch of effective managers and analitics? What are they paying huge salaries for, if they can’t figure anything out in advance, neither opposing the construction of the joint venture, nor the current situation ..? Specialists, damn it ..
    1. svoit
      svoit April 12 2020 12: 19 New
      14
      Quote: DMB 75
      and where was a bunch of effective managers and analitics?

      Do not you understand? They all did not just know, but that was what they wanted and this was what they created.
      It’s just that when you don’t get much stable dough, you can get a good hold of insider information in a crisis.
  • den3080
    den3080 April 12 2020 22: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: revnagan
    What about the Americans?

    Why do you need Americans?
    The Russian government imposes a ban on the import (import) of petroleum products. Imported gasoline became too cheap for the Russian people.
    Everything for the front, everything for the “Feduns,” as they say.
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal April 15 2020 05: 22 New
      0
      "People are their oil" request . If oil revenues become smaller, the difference will be squeezed out of citizens. The same "middle class."
  • Spring fluff
    Spring fluff April 12 2020 23: 23 New
    +1
    Trump thanks Putin and the Saudis for a “great deal” on oil

    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/business/12/04/2020/5e9371579a79474537cbcfb2?from=from_main
  • o_zotov
    o_zotov April 14 2020 10: 08 New
    -1
    Quote: revnagan
    What about the Americans?


  • Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 April 12 2020 10: 29 New
    +1
    LUKOIL DOESN'T SELL OIL AT THE PRICE OF WATER.
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara April 12 2020 10: 39 New
      +9
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      LUKOIL DOESN'T SELL OIL AT THE PRICE OF WATER.

      Have you seen how much a liter of water costs in a store, especially in summer? Thank God that gas is not at the price of water
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat April 12 2020 10: 55 New
        10
        I dare to assure you, in 10 years, so in 1 pure drinking water will be the value of No. XNUMX. yes
        1. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara April 12 2020 10: 57 New
          12
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          I dare to assure you, in 10 years, so in 1 pure drinking water will be the value of No. XNUMX. yes

          In the Middle East, it is already worth it, ask the Jews and the Syrians. And in our country, it will not be a value in 50 years
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh April 12 2020 11: 59 New
            +5
            Israel has been in desalinated sea water for several years. She's a little expensive
            but the problem of lack and dependence on weather has been resolved radically.
            1. Snail N9
              Snail N9 April 12 2020 12: 15 New
              +4
              Do not lie hi your desalination plants solve the problem of water in Israel by a maximum of 20%. The rest is from the lake at the Gollans, which is why you muddied the overthrow of Assad, so that under the collapse of Syria officially secured this strategic reservoir.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh April 12 2020 12: 25 New
                +4
                Desalination plants cover 100% of Israel's needs
                in drinking water.
                From Kineret (Lake of Tiberias near the Golan) stopped taking
                water for drinking needs.
                No connection with Syria.
                1. Snail N9
                  Snail N9 April 12 2020 12: 33 New
                  +5
                  Desalination plants cover 100% of Israel's needs
                  in drinking water.
                  From Kineret (Lake of Tiberias near the Golan) stopped taking
                  drinking water
                  No connection with Syria.

                  Want to say that you drink desalinated water? The connection of water in Israel (Lake Tiberias, well, possession of the strategic Golan heights themselves) and the war in Syria is direct.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh April 12 2020 12: 37 New
                    +4
                    Yes. Almost all of Israel drinks desalinated water.
                    A small part is artesian from wells in Samaria.
                    And only small towns and villages near Galilee
                    take water from the lake.
                  2. 3danimal
                    3danimal April 15 2020 05: 31 New
                    0
                    But before taking control of these heights were used by the Syrians to shell Israeli territory and settlements.
                    Didn't Syria and Egypt attack Israel with the largest armored forces in the second half of the 20th century?
            2. primaala
              primaala April 12 2020 15: 35 New
              +1
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Israel has been in desalinated sea water for several years. She's a little expensive
              but the problem of lack and dependence on weather has been resolved radically.

              Exit - Poor water. The Israelis themselves complain - it’s impossible to drink.
              Conduct chemical / laboratory tests, unpleasantly surprised at the quality ..
              As the world luminaries of medicine know, water is the cradle of intelligent life.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh April 12 2020 16: 08 New
                +2
                When I want to drink water - I drink mineral water.
                But for cooking, tea / coffee, shower, bath - tap water. That is, desalinated.
                It is tasteless, but you can drink, minerals are added there, what you need.
                If you think that the water that is drunk in the big cities of Russia and Europe - purified and processed - is much better, then you are very mistaken.
        2. Ravil_Asnafovich
          Ravil_Asnafovich April 12 2020 11: 07 New
          +6
          Somewhere it is already worth.
        3. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 April 12 2020 12: 32 New
          +4
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          I dare to assure you, in 10 years, so in 1 pure drinking water will be the value of No. XNUMX

          I, as a former hydrogeologist, can assure you that they have been saying this since 1980 .....)) ....
        4. Overlock
          Overlock April 12 2020 12: 39 New
          12
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          in 10, pure drinking water will be the # 1 value.

          and Sechin will head Rosvod laughing
          1. Snail N9
            Snail N9 April 12 2020 13: 08 New
            +3
            and Sechin will head Rosvod

            Rather, Chubais. wink
            1. 3danimal
              3danimal April 15 2020 05: 34 New
              0
              Unlikely. Sechin is “his own”, and Chubais just built in.
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      3. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 April 12 2020 11: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Vol4ara
        Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
        LUKOIL DOESN'T SELL OIL AT THE PRICE OF WATER.

        Have you seen how much a liter of water costs in a store, especially in summer? Thank God that gas is not at the price of water


        I have cold water flowing from the tap for 1,846 kopecks per liter.
      4. _Sergei_
        _Sergei_ April 12 2020 12: 24 New
        +1
        I take 36 liters for a 5 liter bottle of Katun water. It costs the same in the summer.
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 10: 31 New
    14
    The speaking mustache firmly said - sho ce permog! and no one will shoot Sechin; he is one of his own, floundering on the carpet with the sun
    1. kepmor
      kepmor April 12 2020 11: 02 New
      22
      but there were so many show-offs ... yes we ... yes them ... yes so let us all be driven up ....
      but in reality everything is straightforward according to the black chalk ... they wanted the best, but it turned out as always ... through the ass to the stars ...
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon April 12 2020 11: 34 New
        +7
        Quote: kepmor
        and how many were

        Where are they only recruiting economists, lawyers, and analysts who can’t take the situation a step further? As if there are some kind of semi-literate losers-USEshniki managers and lawyers work. request
        1. ohka_new
          ohka_new April 12 2020 11: 42 New
          +6
          Why "as if"? Look at the basic education of those in power ...
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 12 2020 12: 43 New
          12
          Quote: Piramidon
          Where are they only recruiting economists, lawyers, and analysts who can’t take the situation a step further?

          if in personnel policy they proceed from the principles of not mind, but kinship, then it turns out that way. Our lawyers and doctors are in charge of agriculture, trade, mine defense, aircraft manufacturing, electronic engineer request
    2. Snail N9
      Snail N9 April 12 2020 12: 21 New
      +7
      The speaking mustache firmly said - sho ce permog!

      "Talking mustaches" still have to someday, really answer:
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty April 12 2020 10: 32 New
    -10
    It was necessary to "ask" the Houthis, and accordingly "motivate" them to hit properly on the Saudi oil business! There would be a large-scale panic in the market, and prices themselves would climb up, indefinitely! am
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  • Old partisan
    Old partisan April 12 2020 10: 32 New
    11
    Glory to the president of united Russia and our Moscow oil industry workers! Hooray!
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 April 12 2020 13: 22 New
      +4
      More interesting information (albeit from the "Insider"):
      “As for the agreement reached, there are about 180 thousand operating oil wells in Russia, the exact number is changing all the time - some new ones appear, some are closed.

      In order to decommission 23% of production, as promised, it is necessary to close about 14 thousand wells.
      The average well produces 9,5 tons per day.

      If in Saudi Arabia, where a well produces 1000 or 2000 tons per day against our 9,5 tons, it is enough to shut up a certain number of wells, then we need to almost 16 times increase the number of closed wells.

      It should be borne in mind that in Saudi Arabia, oil flows freely under reservoir pressure, while in our country 85% of the wells are equipped with pumps - submersible or rocking machines.
      That is, you need to turn off the electricity so that the oil stops flowing, and stop pumping underground water that displaces the oil. Technically, it seems to be simple, but then it is difficult to restore it. It is expected that we will reduce production by two months. If the Russian well is idle for two months, deposits of paraffins and stearins will start in it, which will clog it. It is necessary to clean all this, remove the equipment. In the north, wells sometimes freeze, hydrate crystals form. It is necessary to use solvents, paper clips, remove the pumps, clean everything, immerse again - this is a very expensive task. Firstly, the number of wells is gigantic, and secondly, these are technical problems. This is not Saudi Arabia, this is Russia.

      Suppose for two months we drowned out everything that we could drown out, and then we will have some kind of relief. Starting in June, we will see a reduction of 8 million barrels, and next year - by 6 million barrels. Something can be restored. Well, oil workers will restore work at old wells and that will be enough, but all investments in new projects and the development of new reserves will be put on the shelf, because there is no money.
      Profits will decline, but since domestic consumption must be satisfied, they will be cut by export.
      Exports will be reduced by about half, but what does this mean?
      Even if, under the influence of OPEC + measures, the price rises slightly, revenues will still be lower due to the reduction in national budget revenues. This is a financial disaster. This will mean a very rapid depletion of the National Welfare Fund, then there will be a sequestration of the budget, a reduction in expenditures, and what expenses will be cut, it is clear - not for the maintenance of the presidential administration or punitive forces from the Russian Guard, but for state employees, teachers, science, health care, education, pensioners. It will be very bad, devaluation will occur, and terrible inflation will begin. For ordinary Russians, the consequences of what is happening will be extremely difficult "

      https://theins.ru/opinions/212800?fbclid=IwAR0bgyIib5oJLr7EtdNsKDgoUAPnCdqMNM4HQSho7VU2lZ-kyjnsBEV3ZVs
  • Mebius
    Mebius April 12 2020 10: 33 New
    -13
    I would give an example of the Brest Peace when the Bolsheviks in 1918 were forced for various reasons to make a deal with Germany, which was humiliating and difficult

    And other experts say differently ..! USA, Saudi, and Canada, etc. Russia won the war of nerves, oil will be in the range of $ 45 !!! It suits everyone .. Because the fall in oil prices, primarily to Russia, was directed (remember the collapse of the USSR, then the economy collapsed and infovoy)))
    So who won and who lost, this is a moot point! Well, Russia remained with its own, that's for sure .. hi
    R / S / The oligarchy, of course, our minus will remain a little .. They will have to pay for the holidays, that’s angry and their singers howl too
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 12 2020 10: 40 New
      10
      Quote: Mobius
      And other experts say differently

      Because they are not financially interested.
      And for Lukoil, any restrictions are like a sickle by reason.
      1. Mebius
        Mebius April 12 2020 11: 05 New
        -20
        Quote: Spade
        Quote: Mobius
        And other experts say differently

        Because they are not financially interested.
        And for Lukoil, any restrictions are like a sickle by reason.

        It is the oligarchy who is now sickle 3 millimeters from ... hold!
        Sberbank say the state bought back the assets of our private owners in Venezuela .. There’s something interesting in power!
        I think Russia is concentrating!

        These are the things that happen, without chatter and any statements to the public .. hi
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 April 12 2020 11: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: Spade
        for Lukoil, any restrictions are like a sickle by reason.

        Duc, Leonid announced a "catastrophe" at the beginning of March - now it is expensive for him to maintain a "people's pig farm". yes
    2. Overlock
      Overlock April 12 2020 10: 49 New
      27
      Quote: Mobius
      Well, Russia remained with its own, that's for sure ..

      that's for sure! It was required to reduce production by 600 thousand barrels; they refused, but agreed to reduce production by 1.5 million barrels. With this, the dollar rose. Higher mathematics. Sechin remained with his own, the rest - they think.
      Prices have risen.
      And under Stalin, after World War II, in conditions of real devastation, prices were reduced:
      - bread, flour, cereals and pasta, meat and sausages, fish, oil, fabrics, furs, metal products and electrical goods, etc. - 10%;
      - coats, suits, dresses made of woolen fabrics - 12%;
      - dresses, shirts, blouses, etc. silk garments, shoes, hats - by 15%;
      - cheese and feta cheese, perfumes, dishes, motorcycles and bicycles, radios, pianos, accordions and button accordions, gramophones, jewelry - by 20%;
      - TVs, vodka - 25%;
      - salt, cement, watches, hay - by 30%.
      The same decree reduced prices in restaurants, canteens, tea houses and other enterprises.
      catering.
      1. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi April 12 2020 10: 55 New
        18
        Quote: Overlock
        And under Stalin, after World War II, in conditions of real devastation, prices were reduced:

        The IVS did not have sparring partners, increased gluttony.
      2. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona April 12 2020 10: 56 New
        0
        You have not read the article
        Answering the question whether Russia will pay an adequate price, agreeing to reduce production by 2,5 million barrels per day,
      3. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 12 2020 11: 16 New
        0
        Quote: Overlock
        that's for sure! It was required to reduce production by 600 thousand barrels; they refused, but agreed to reduce production by 1.5 million barrels.

        You have gracefully "forgotten" about the shares in the reduction.
        When everyone passes 1500 rubles each, it is much better than when everyone passes 300 and you 600.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 12 2020 11: 23 New
          13
          Quote: Spade
          You have gracefully "forgotten" about the shares in the reduction.

          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Somewhere like this:
          The Kremlin’s attempt to bite its teeth on the global oil market and sacrifice partnership with Saudi Arabia to hit the US shale industry ended in Russia's surrender.

          On Thursday, following talks in a video conference format, the countries of the OPEC + alliance reached an agreement in principle to stabilize the global oil market, which was on the brink of disaster due to the coronavirus pandemic that brought global demand down.

          To stop the collapse of prices falling to levels in the late 1990s ($ 10,5 per Urals), 24 OPEC + countries will remove 10 million barrels of daily supplies from the market. At the same time, Russia will reduce production more than anyone else, follows from the protocol, which cites a source of TASS.

          Within the framework of the deal, two months - May and June - Russia and Saudi Arabia will pump 8,5 million barrels per day, reducing production by 23% from the conventional level of 11 million barrels per day.

          Russia produces 11,2 million b / s, and thus its reduction quota will be 2,7 million b / s.

          By April, Saudi Arabia increased production to 12,3 million bpd, but in March it pumped 9,8 million bpd. In the previous 13 months, its production was even lower - 9,4–9,8 million bpd.

          Thus, regarding the levels before the collapse of the OPEC + agreement and the start of the “price war” Riyadh will reduce production by only 1,3 million b / s.


          hi
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 12 2020 11: 42 New
            -2
            Quote: Overlock
            Somewhere like this:
            The Kremlin’s attempt to bite its teeth

            Pathos!
            Cool.

            OPEC countries 1 billion, Russia, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan 0.5 billion

            Try to prove the validity of such a proposal.

            Quote: Overlock
            By April, Saudi Arabia increased production to 12,3 million bpd, but in March it pumped 9,8 million bpd. In the previous 13 months, its production was even lower - 9,4–9,8 million bpd.

            Russia 11.3 minus 1.8 million. That is, minus 16%
            Saudi Arabia 9.8 minus 1.3 million, i.e. minus 13%
            1. Overlock
              Overlock April 12 2020 11: 51 New
              +9
              Quote: Spade
              Try to prove the validity of such a proposal.

              Bank of Russia: balance of payments of the Russian Federation for the first quarter of this year.
              Exports of goods decreased by 14%.
              As a result, the balance of foreign trade in goods decreased by one and a half times: from $ 47,0 billion in the 1st quarter of last year to $ 32,7 billion in the 1st quarter of this.
              Crude oil exports fell from $ 29,6 billion in the 1st quarter of last year to $ 24,5 billion, i.e. by 13%. On petroleum products, the figures are respectively 17,6 and 14,1 billion dollars; the fall was 20%. For natural gas, exports fell from $ 14,1 to $ 7,1 billion.
              For these three commodity items, there was a decrease in export earnings from $ 61,3 to $ 45,7 billion, or $ 15,6 billion, which is equal to a decrease in the trade surplus for the 1st quarter of this year.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 12 2020 11: 56 New
                0
                This is all clear. Coronavirus, buy less, cheaper.

                However, all this does not answer the following questions:
                --- Why did the Saudis put forward obviously unacceptable requirements for Russia?
                --- Why was Russia obliged to cede part of the markets to the Americans?
                --- Why are there so many people who believe that Russia was obliged to immediately give in to the American dictatorship and not get too busy?
                1. Overlock
                  Overlock April 12 2020 12: 09 New
                  12
                  Quote: Spade
                  Why did the Saudis put forward obviously unacceptable requirements for Russia?

                  V. Nightingale has an answer to this question - personal relations after Novak’s demarche
                  Quote: Spade
                  why was Russia obliged to cede part of the markets to the Americans?

                  not required. but did it work out?
                  Quote: Spade
                  Why are there so many people here who believe that Russia was obliged to immediately give in to the American dictatorship and not get too busy?

                  but no one thinks so! everyone is discussing the end result. Capitalism, as it turned out, is an evil thing, and the weak in it are not spared. Do you really think that everyone on the site welcomes the deterioration of their well-being?
                  I believe that in politics we must proceed from our capabilities. The Russian authorities have overestimated their capabilities and this is obvious, I must admit.
                  Price error Novak:
                  1. depreciation of the ruble
                  2. reduction in larger oil barrels
                  3. Venezuela. I think that soon Maduro will fly to Rostov. Trump does nothing for free
                  Well, the rest, we will watch
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov April 12 2020 12: 16 New
                    -3
                    Quote: Overlock
                    V. Nightingale has an answer to this question - personal relations after Novak’s demarche

                    Ha ha ha ...
                    Or maybe everything is much simpler, the Americans asked?

                    Quote: Overlock
                    but no one thinks so!


                    Yah?
                    But did you write this?
                    Quote: Overlock
                    It was required to reduce production by 600 thousand barrels; they refused, but agreed to reduce production by 1.5 million barrels. With this, the dollar rose. Higher mathematics. Sechin remained with his own, the rest - they think.


                    Translating into Russian "we had to give in right away"
                    1. Overlock
                      Overlock April 12 2020 12: 26 New
                      12
                      Quote: Spade
                      Translating into Russian "we had to give in right away"

                      if you think that 600 thousand is more than 2 million, then yes
                      Quote: Spade
                      Or maybe everything is much simpler, the Americans asked?

                      I believe that the truth will remain a secret. But if you follow the logic, how can you explain the escape from Venezuela Rosneft? - Another multi-step?
                      Is it the same as agreeing to reduce oil production by a larger amount?
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 12 2020 12: 32 New
                        -2
                        Quote: Overlock
                        if you think that 600 thousand is more than 2 million, then yes

                        If you think that having achieved a concession from Russia, they would have stopped ...

                        Remember, the weak are beaten. A concession without any resistance would necessarily be considered a weakness.
                        And these 600 (actually 500) would quickly turn into 2, 4, 6 .... As the Americans and Saudis please.
                        It's like gopniks in the gateway. Give them money without resistance, get ready to do it regularly.

                        Quote: Overlock
                        how can you explain the escape from Venezuela Rosneft?

                        An attempt to get away from sanctions that seriously complicate the life of the company.
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 April 12 2020 13: 16 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Spade
                        An attempt to get away from sanctions that seriously complicate the life of the company.

                        That is, ran away from the gopnik in the gateway?
                2. Sergej1972
                  Sergej1972 April 12 2020 13: 17 New
                  0
                  Judging by media reports, following recent public support measures, Maduro’s popularity has risen. But the army, the police, and special services are not in poverty. Errors of Morales Maduro tries not to make.
            2. Snail N9
              Snail N9 April 12 2020 13: 12 New
              +5
              Bank of Russia: balance of payments of the Russian Federation for the first quarter of this year.

              Bank of Russia .... Balance of payments ....
        2. svoit
          svoit April 12 2020 13: 02 New
          +8
          Quote: Overlock
          Riyadh will reduce production by only 1,3 million b / s.

          Well TASS is still that fake
          but we know how to count
          12.3-8.5 = 3.8 million bps
        3. D16
          D16 April 13 2020 13: 02 New
          0
          At the same time, Russia will reduce production more than anyone else, follows from the protocol, which cites a source of TASS.

          In vain you consider these quotas and percentages. This is just a game to the public in the hope of easily achieving a price increase. Production depends on demand in the first place. And if it isn’t, the low-margin wells will still have to be covered up, costs should be optimized, part of the people should be fired. All these restrictions will still not allow to enter into compliance with the new level of oil products consumption. What have the Saudis achieved by promising to fill the world with discount oil and boosting production in a falling market? Did they sell a lot during this period? laughing
          The question is rhetorical ..
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  • Essex62
    Essex62 April 12 2020 11: 20 New
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    The collapse of the USSR did not occur as a result of falling oil prices and the collapse of the economy as a result of this. Purely political action, a coup from above. The planned, socialist model is not subject to speculative crises, from the word no matter how. It is stable and not drowning until the moment of administrative intervention and artificial braking, breaking ties, turning off production chains, etc. Which is what happened. For five years, the hunchbacked prince, replaced the entire command apparatus with traitors, with bourgeois psychology. Cadres, as you know, decide everything. And where does the oil price on a speculative world exchange?
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 12 2020 11: 37 New
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      Quote: Essex62
      The planned, socialist model is not subject to speculative crises, from the word no matter how.

      You are right, but wrong. There really were no speculative crises, but a crisis in a socialist economy is quite possible. The first crisis phenomena were observed already in the 60s, and the economic reform, alas, turned out to be half-hearted and did not save the situation. The economic crisis threatened the USSR by the end of the 70s, but was delayed due to oil revenues.
      In general, it was nevertheless necessary to move on to the hybrid model — to introduce the elements of the NEP, cost accounting, etc.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 April 12 2020 13: 20 New
        +2
        Dogmatism ... At least that which was in the SFRY, Hungary, was introduced, and it would already be useful, at least for 15 years.
      2. Essex62
        Essex62 April 14 2020 09: 50 New
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        The introduction of private property, i.e. the rejection of the basic principle of socialist society — a ban on personal enrichment, rent-taking, speculation, and the like abominations of capitalism inevitably leads to an avalanche-like collapse of the foundations of an equal opportunity society. As we have seen since the late 80s.
        Where did the data about the economic crisis of the USSR, which saved oil, come from? Hazard specialists and their agents, such as Gaidar and Chubais, were told to you?
        Once again, the system is not prone to crises, not sharpened for profit and personal enrichment of individuals. It is planned and therefore very flexible and stable, capable of reorienting itself to what is necessary for the functioning of society. But for modern society, money-grubbing and indefatigable consumption, it really is not good. For the possibility of a citizen slapping on foot through puddles, with a fig in his pocket and vague prospects of a workplace, with a salary giving the opportunity to live fully, to watch a passing Maybach, the price is not exorbitant. Why all these buns if they are not available to most citizens of the country. In the USSR, the minister and I rode on the same Volga, in different seats there was only three times as many s / n of it. Where did you go and where is the minister, in terms of responsibility?


        ,
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 14 2020 18: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: Essex62
          Where did the data about the economic crisis of the USSR, which saved oil, come from? Hazard specialists and their agents, such as Gaidar and Chubais, were told to you?

          No. This was told to me by Soviet statistical reference books. This is surprisingly honest material in which everything you need can be read between the lines. For example, when in a certain industry the number of industrial enterprises grows, and the aggregate output in the industry decreases, quite definite conclusions can be drawn, although, of course, the reference books do not directly talk about the crisis.
          Quote: Essex62
          Once again, the system is not prone to crises, not sharpened for profit and personal enrichment of individuals. It is planned and therefore very flexible and stable, capable of reorienting itself to what is necessary for the functioning of society.

          I strongly recommend that you familiarize yourself with the economic reform of 1965, the so-called Kosygin reform. And especially - the reasons for its occurrence. In short, the Gosplan fully realized that it is unrealistic to manage more than 47 thousand enterprises by policy. That is - it is possible, of course, but inefficient.
          Quote: Essex62
          In the USSR, the minister and I rode on the same Volga, in different seats there was only three times as many s / n of it. Where did you go and where is the minister, in terms of responsibility?

          This, by the way, is one of the main reasons for the collapse of the USSR. Why work as an engineer for 120 rubles, if you can work as a worker for 200 rubles?
          Quote: Essex62
          The introduction of private property, i.e. the rejection of the basic principle of socialist society — a ban on personal enrichment, rent-taking, speculation, and the like abominations of capitalism inevitably leads to an avalanche-like collapse of the foundations of an equal opportunity society.

          The question is what is meant by personal enrichment. The question is that no system will be effective if a person’s salary does not depend on his work. So in the USSR (after Stalin, in which the runaway in the quality of life, for example, between the designer and the worker could reach very large values) this was not.
          Formally, there were bonuses, but in fact they did not stimulate effective work. They pressed on consciousness, and it did not work.
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 April 15 2020 12: 22 New
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            Well, of course, it will never work for an egoist and a skater. Socialism of Stalin stopped bourgeois aggression, changed the world. Those. turned out to be super effective.
            The balance of engineers and workers in the USSR was at the proper level and the state did the right thing paying the higher salary for hard work at the machine, in the face, behind the levers of the tractor and locomotive than for the no less necessary, but lighter and cleaner blue robes. This is what the so-called West took over from the rotten west. intellectual property. He came up with something and the rest of his life, the whole family, including the children of the majors, eats from the belly. Not a damn thing, you are a citizen of the country, would you kindly think up to retirement, and children from scratch.
            What Kosygin conceived and was, in fact, an audit of the bourgeois consumer society. His last coup, primarily in the minds, and muddied.
            For the livelihoods of the population, the Soviet planned industry gave everything in abundance. You can do without buns before building communism on the basis of scientific and technological progress.
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 15 2020 18: 13 New
              +2
              Quote: Essex62
              Well, of course, it will never work for an egoist and a skater.

              Alas, as it turned out, the vast majority of the USSR population does not want to work for the sake of an idea.
              Quote: Essex62
              Socialism of Stalin stopped bourgeois aggression, changed the world.

              At the same time, Stalin did not at all seek equalization.
              Quote: Essex62
              The balance of engineering and workers in the USSR was at the appropriate level and the state did the right thing paying the higher salary for hard work at the machine, in the face, behind the levers of the tractor and locomotive than for the no less necessary, but lighter and cleaner blue robes.

              Again, you are right, but not quite.
              To begin with, under Stalin, a person very much influenced his earnings by the results of his labor. In the 30s, the country needed literally everything, so "driving the shaft" was paramount and extremely necessary. So, at the end of the 30s, the average salary of a worker was about 350 rubles. But the Stakhanovites, shock workers, etc. could earn 600 rubles. Some people managed to earn up to 1000 rubles at the machine, but newspapers have already written about them.
              In other words, under Stalin, a working man could double his salary. And for this, he did not have to go somewhere to the north, etc., it was enough to plow intensively and efficiently at the machine. In the late USSR of the 80s. it was already impossible.
              And under Stalin ... in 1953, the average salary of workers in industry was 743 rubles. The engineer received significantly higher - 1200-1300 rubles. But a professor or academician could earn 10 rubles.
              At the same time, some working professions were also rated very highly - a highly skilled worker could receive 3000 rubles, and from miners and Stakhanovites-metallurgists it could reach up to 8 rubles. But you need to understand that if the average salary of workers in industry was still 000 rubles, then there were many who received 743 rubles or less.
              And also, let's not forget that the management was entitled to various benefits - company cars, apartments, housekeepers, personal drivers, food rations, etc. That is, the same minister relied on several service dachas in different parts of the country.
              Therefore, we can conclude that under Stalin there was an excellent motivation system. Very hard physical labor (such as that of the same metallurgists) was paid very well. But in any case, a person of another working specialty was also not deprived - plowing for two, becoming a Master in his business, he could improve his own income many times. At the same time, on average, intellectual labor was highly appreciated, and was valued more than physical. Managers were not forgotten either.
              Not that the system was completely perfect - there were a number of underestimated professions, such as peasants, for example, or doctors. But still...
              On the one hand, under Stalin, man had room to grow professionally and this growth was welcomed and was accompanied by an increase in income. And on the other, there were no crazy breaks, as now, when one gets 15 thousand rubles. per month, and the other - 300 thousand rubles per day.
              Quote: Essex62
              This is what the so-called West took over from the rotten west. intellectual property. He came up with something and the rest of his life, the whole family, including the children of the majors, eats from the belly.

              Intellectual property doesn’t work like that :)))) A patent does not give money, it just protects your invention from copying. And in order to earn money for the rest of your life on a patent, you need to sell it to someone. That is, someone should get such a benefit from the invention that he was ready to pay for the comfortable existence of the inventor. And try to come up with this ....
              But one thing I absolutely agree with is that such rewards are a road to nowhere. To that same "post-industrial" society, which was described to us as a "bright future" - they say, we make money out of thin air on the stock exchange and intellectual property, and let the Chinese make goods in Asia ...
              In this regard, the idea of ​​Stalinist prizes looks much more sensible.
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 April 12 2020 12: 28 New
    +4
    Quote: Mobius
    Well, Russia remained with its own, that's for sure ..

    Yeah, they just took off their jacket, they haven’t gotten to their pants yet.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 12 2020 10: 35 New
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    Something has become a lot of "humiliation" in the field of gas and oil. (SP-2, agreement with the Okrug, Opek +) Maybe it's still a matter of professional suitability of the leadership of the industries?
    1. Tusv
      Tusv April 12 2020 10: 46 New
      +7
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Something has become a lot of "humiliation" in the field of gas and oil. (SP-2, agreement with the Okrug, Opek +) Maybe it's still a matter of professional suitability of the leadership of the industries?

      Well, if you look superficially, then the main losers are: Russia and Canada. The storage facilities are overflowing, this is one thing, and the oil pipelines will stand here already from the series "We will all die"
    2. ancient
      ancient April 12 2020 11: 12 New
      +8
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Maybe this is still a question of professional suitability of industry leaders?

      Do you still believe that "these processes" are controlled by .. "industry leaders"? belay
      Holy simplicity..... crying
    3. ohka_new
      ohka_new April 12 2020 11: 44 New
      +2
      And not only industries ...
  • Tusv
    Tusv April 12 2020 10: 35 New
    0
    Lukoil’s vice president explained that if the OPEC agreement had not been signed, then in a month and a half all oil storage facilities would have been filled and Russia would have had to stop the wells, cutting production by more than 50% and selling oil at a price of $ 15-20 per barrel .

    Judging by the news, in the oil war, everyone but the rogue countries: Venezuela and Iran fell into humiliation
  • dvina71
    dvina71 April 12 2020 10: 38 New
    -2
    Interesting .. everyone knows with what intentions the Kremlin gave the command not to sign a new agreement that led to a drop in prices and from this knowledge they conclude that the Kremlin lost ..
    Just .. where did the insider come from? Is the Kremlin suicidal?
    The reason seems to have been voiced right away - only the Russian Federation and the CA are reducing production, thereby supporting the price and opening up the shale oil market.
    And?
    USA. Canada and Mexico have pledged to reduce production, the price of oil will not be beneficial to shale oil for a long time .. at least until the virus ..
    1. ancient
      ancient April 12 2020 11: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: dvina71
      Interesting .. everyone knows with what intentions the Kremlin gave the command not to sign a new agreement that led to a drop in prices and from this knowledge they conclude that the Kremlin lost ..

      Read, only professionals and ... then you will find out .. "from where the legs grow" wassat(I will tell you why "Igorok" .. "escaped" from Venezuela?) bully
    2. A.TOR
      A.TOR April 12 2020 18: 15 New
      0
      In the discussion thread, become https: //topwar.ru/169111-kak-ssha-i-saudovskaja-aravija-igrali-protiv-nas.html#comment-id-10249786 find if you are interested in the reasons for what happened,
      A.TOR (Alexander) March 18, 2020 17:51 and the following comment.
      I think you will find this to some extent the answer to a question, or info for thought.
  • Romey
    Romey April 12 2020 10: 39 New
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    What?! Is the American shale industry already bent? These are our bright victories: instead of the initial reduction of 1,3 million barrels per day, the ingenious multi-way driver would have to reduce by 2,7 million Damn, Saudi devils in towels, they had to be dumped to the end because oil addicts could only be cured in the same way.
    1. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi April 12 2020 11: 10 New
      10
      Quote: romey
      Damn, Saudi devils in towels, it was necessary to dump

      The Saudis completed their task. In January-February, they produced 9.75 million barrels. The Russian Federation is approximately 11. An agreement under which the Saudis fell to 9.2 and we did not suit us before 10.7? Well, now both we and they will have a production of 8.5. They sag to 1.25 million barrels, we are 2.5 million barrels ... It seems that, from the point of view of the Saudis, they avenged the insoles to the fullest.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 12 2020 11: 22 New
        -5
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        The agreement, according to which the Saudis fell to 9.2 and we did not suit us before 10.7?

        I'm afraid this agreement is only in your imagination.
        In reality, 500 million in Russia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan.
        1. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi April 12 2020 11: 30 New
          10
          Quote: Spade
          I'm afraid this agreement is only in your imagination.

          I'm afraid you have serious problems. With the processing and perception of information. According to the agreement we have torn, a total reduction of 1.5 million was assumed. Of these, 1 million were trusteeship countries, 0.5 of which were specifically Saudis. And 0.5 countries are not guardianship. Among them, Russia is one of three. Even if the rest of the non-Pekovsk ones reduced production by 1 barrel, Russia would still lose less than the Saudis. Let on a minuscule, but less. That stupidly arithmetic, stupidly elementary school. Now we will cut twice as many Saudis. Glory to the wise helmsman and his healers. Gip-gip hooray.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 12 2020 11: 49 New
            -4
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            of which 0.5 are specifically Saudis

            Confirm this moment with the link.
            Sorry, but you have no faith in the word ...

            Quote: Lannan Shi
            Among which Russia is one of three

            Yeah. Russia with mining 11, Azerbaijan 0.7 and Kazakhstan 1.8
            1. Lannan Shi
              Lannan Shi April 12 2020 12: 43 New
              +5
              Quote: Spade
              Confirm this moment with the link.

              TASS, February 28. Saudi Arabia intends to achieve a significant reduction in oil production by the countries participating in the OPEC + transaction during the ministerial meeting in Vienna in March this year. The Financial Times reported on Thursday evening, citing sources.
              In this case, Saudi Arabia will take the bulk of the reduction. The remaining part of the obligations, according to the Saudi plan, should be divided between Russia, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates

              The word "main" is not enough? I will continue below ..
              Quote: Spade
              Sorry, but you have no faith in the word ...

              Laponka. I do not suffer from a severe form of putinia. And as a result of selective amnesia I do not have. And I prefer to operate through official digits rather than slogans. Koi change 5 times a day. But the memory of the contents of the slogans and pathos of Mr. Pu and his officials is not bad. What you, and other zaputintsev, and pisses me off. And we would be glad to forget what nonsense the galley rowers carried, a month, a year or ten years ago, but they remind you tongue
              Well, rg dot ru something to eat, for a snack. March 5, 2020
              Now, on March 6, at a meeting of the OPEC + ministerial committee, they will have to agree on this decision with countries outside the OPEC, including Russia, which on March 4, at the committee’s first meeting, opposed an additional reduction. The position of our country was supported by Kazakhstan, which is also not a member of OPEC. According to the Iranian oil minister, referred to by RIA Novosti, the non-OPEC quota for an additional reduction in production will be 0,5 million barrels per day.
              Why Europe restricts Russian gas access to its market
              Russia has the second largest reduction quota - 300 thousand barrels per day. Only Saudi Arabia has more than 500 thousand barrels per day. The total decline in production of all OPEC + member countries is 1,7 million barrels per day.

              Tie up with chronic Putinism. Selective amnesia is a faithful companion of that same Putinism.
              Dixi ..
              1. Leshy1975
                Leshy1975 April 12 2020 13: 48 New
                +5
                Quote: Lannan Shi
                Tie up with chronic Putinism. Selective amnesia is a faithful companion of that same Putinism.

                good
                Just do not tie, unfortunately. They started celebrating another break yesterday!
                And do not care that they tried to explain to them yesterday that there was NO victory. Cited links, numbers. But after all, SAM Peskov said that President praises this document and also that: Russia in no way loses when concluding a new OPEC + deal. From the transaction "everybody wins»

                And for the Putreots, it's about a call - jumping on a rake everyone dances! laughing
                What do you suggest ?! Tie up and start thinking? Yes, they will begin such a break! Not, many of these citizens, without the next dose - Putin won, can no longer live, due to the development of psychological dependence.
                But in general, and this must be admitted - in the morning, people who are persistent and are not afraid of difficulties, but boldly follow their leader, from victory to victory. From breakthrough to breakthrough!
            2. Terenin
              Terenin April 12 2020 23: 51 New
              +1
              Quote: Spade
              Sorry, but you have no faith in the word ...

              Of course, these two so-called journalists, under one nickname, to put it mildly, mislead everyone
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              I do not suffer from a severe form of putinia.
              already suffer if they remember it through every word in their posts and in any topics
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              But the memory of the contents of the slogans and pathos of Mr. Pu and his officials is not bad
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              Glory to the wise helmsman ... Gip-gip hooray.

              Obviously, winked this is such sarcasm among these "village Muscovites"
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              Laponka.
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              I'm afraid you have serious problems.
              will be paid, from Western employers, after the results of the vote for amendments to the Constitution of Russia.
              And he will be then
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              I do not have selective amnesia
          2. svoit
            svoit April 12 2020 13: 13 New
            -5
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            I'm afraid you have serious problems.

            I’m afraid that it’s with you, as you both write about the same thing
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            And 0.5 countries are not guardianship. Among which Russia is one of three.

            Quote: Spade
            In reality, 500 million in Russia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan.
  • adler87
    adler87 April 12 2020 10: 41 New
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    Well, then, the March children's whim of the president of great Russia will be paid by poor citizens of a small Russia. Already they raised the retirement age, and raised the VAT, and push the self-employed into the stall, and the situation is getting worse and worse. For 20 years, no luck in the economy. Correctly, Nemtsov at one time said it was good to steer the country when oil at $ 100. He (Putin) would manage at a price of $ 15. And at 15 it doesn’t work. Nemtsov was right.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 April 12 2020 11: 24 New
      -11
      Quote: adler87
      will be paid by poor citizens of a small Russia.

      laughing
      Quote: adler87
      Right Nemtsov once said

      laughing laughing
      Quote: adler87
      Nemtsov was right.

      laughing laughing laughing
  • Rostislav
    Rostislav April 12 2020 10: 43 New
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    The main share of the reduction in production is taken by Saudi Arabia and Russia.

    In this case, the role of a wise monkey watching a tiger and a bear fight was played by the Americans. They did not sign a decrease in production.
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 April 12 2020 10: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: Rostislav
      They did not sign a decrease in production.

      Subscribed, and even part of the Mexican decline took over ..
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona April 12 2020 10: 57 New
        +2
        Link please?
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 April 12 2020 11: 03 New
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          Quote: BlackMokona
          Link please?

          And you tell me a link where the Russian Federation has signed to reduce production by 2 million.
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona April 12 2020 11: 16 New
            +3
            Do not give thanks
            https://topwar.ru/170114-v-lukojle-soglashenie-opek-nazvali-unizitelnoj-no-neobhodimoj-sdelkoj.html
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 April 12 2020 11: 22 New
              -3
              Quote: BlackMokona
              Do not give thanks

              For this I will not ..
  • Operator
    Operator April 12 2020 10: 44 New
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    Kiev Jew Fedun from Moscow knows better laughing
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 April 12 2020 10: 56 New
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    Fedun had forgotten that the mediocre policy of the tsarist regime had led to the Brest peace. Thoughtless entry into not our war, and the war to a victorious end. This was inherited by the young Soviet state.
    The analogy is partly similar, only there are no one to translate arrows for any Feduns, Sechins, Millers. For decades, they themselves have drowned the state.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek April 12 2020 11: 03 New
      -11
      And the Communists, almost won the war turned into a loser
      1. Kronos
        Kronos April 12 2020 12: 23 New
        -1
        Only the USA benefited from the war
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek April 12 2020 12: 25 New
          +2
          From PMV? Britain and France ... and resettled the colonies. But they lost a lot in people. And we lost and lost.
          1. Kronos
            Kronos April 12 2020 12: 27 New
            -2
            Britain and France after the war came out with dire economic consequences and their colonial empires cracked
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 April 12 2020 17: 28 New
              -2
              Quote: Kronos
              Britain and France after the war came out with heavy economic consequences

              Was there chocolate in Germany?
    2. Overlock
      Overlock April 12 2020 11: 31 New
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      Quote: 7,62x54
      Fedun had forgotten that the mediocre policy of the tsarist regime had led to the Brest peace.

      and what led to the new, worse for Russia, OPEC + agreement?
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 April 12 2020 13: 27 New
        +6
        And who is to blame for signing a gas transit agreement through Ukraine, which is unfavorable in all respects?
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek April 12 2020 14: 21 New
          -1
          By all accounts, without sanctions, there is still a year, and a half work
    3. Avior
      Avior April 12 2020 11: 44 New
      +2
      Brest peace was canceled by Versailles agreements
      Yes, and the right to indemnity Russia received
      but we never mentioned such subtleties ....
  • sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 12 2020 10: 57 New
    0
    Russia won the war of nerves, oil will be within $ 45 !!! This suits everyone

    No one, no war has won.
    If Russia won, then there must be losers, if everyone is happy, then this is only a truce.
    The parties took a break to analyze the situation, regroup forces, and then for a new battle.
    War has no one; there are winners and losers.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket April 12 2020 10: 58 New
    -3
    LUKOIL will not be. Rosneft will swallow him for such words ...
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 12 2020 11: 02 New
    -1
    And what is humiliation? Whoever you listen to is diametrically opposed to the conclusion.
  • APASUS
    APASUS April 12 2020 11: 02 New
    +2
    This vice-president of the largest Russian private oil company LUKOIL, Leonid Fedun, needs to be driven. The transaction of OPEC + does not suit him, and when will Leonid Fedun think about the domestic market ???
    The oil price fell 3 times, and PETROL for LUKOIL did not fall in price 3 times !! Raw materials are getting cheaper, but there is no final product, it can also go up in price - a paradox of Russian reality!
    1. ancient
      ancient April 12 2020 11: 20 New
      +6
      Quote: APASUS
      The OPEC + deal does not suit him

      You read the article "badly" - Fedun just writes that .. "Thank God that everything turned out so well and we were left standing only in the seafood position, and not at ..." latrine ").
      Quote: APASUS
      and when will Leonid Fedun think about the domestic market ???

      Does he need it? Or any of the .. "owners of the national property"? And what "steamships" and "castles in overseas territories" will be bought for? wassat
    2. ccsr
      ccsr April 12 2020 11: 32 New
      +9
      Quote: APASUS
      This vice-president of the largest Russian private oil company LUKOIL, Leonid Fedun, needs to be driven.

      This company has nothing to do with Russia, if only because it is registered in Cyprus and most of its owners are not even Russian citizens. Alikperov only serves the American owners, being a cover for the cover. And even then it is not clear what country he is a citizen of.
      In May 2005, Alekperov was awarded the Woodrow Wilson Award for his achievements in the development of corporate citizenship (it is awarded to leaders in public administration and business who are striving to improve the quality of life, both in their country and abroad)
    3. Overlock
      Overlock April 12 2020 11: 33 New
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      Quote: APASUS
      The oil price fell 3 times, and PETROL for LUKOIL did not fall in price 3 times !!

      The government decided to ban the import of petroleum products into Russia to prevent the supply of cheap foreign gasoline to the domestic market, told RBC one of the participants in the fuel market. This was confirmed by three federal officials.
      The Ministry of Energy made such a proposal and the profile Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov supported it.
      And they do not plan to lower domestic prices themselves. There is lobbying for state interests in artificially maintaining high gas prices domestically
      Read more at RBC:
      https://www.rbc.ru/business/06/04/2020/5e8b4bf89a794707fb0b7993
      Fedun has nothing to do with it
      1. APASUS
        APASUS April 12 2020 12: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Overlock
        Fedun has nothing to do with it

        Well, if Fedun is also out of the question, then who should I ask Putin for gas from, or is it better to contact Trump?
        A ban on imports will be introduced in order to protect the market from cheap fuel, one source explains. Due to falling oil prices, gas prices have collapsed in the world. But in Russia there is a mechanism for smoothing prices (the so-called damper), which protects the cost of fuel both from a sharp increase and from a fall that could occur as a result of fluctuations in oil prices. Under this mechanism, oil companies pay extra to the state if the domestic market becomes premium, and therefore cannot lower gas station prices

        Read more at RBC:
        https://www.rbc.ru/business/06/04/2020/5e8b4bf89a794707fb0b7993

        This is called a conspiracy in the oil market, where government officials openly lobby for the interests of oil workers.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 April 12 2020 13: 34 New
          +3
          Quote: APASUS
          with whom then to ask for gasoline from Putin or maybe it is better to turn to Trump?

          From Putin and ask.
          On March 1, the situation with the oil industry was discussed by President Vladimir Putin. He recalled that Brent quotes fell from $ 70 to $ 50 per barrel, and last week was the worst for global markets since the 2008 crisis. Putin noted the importance of the OPEC + deal, but said that Russia was satisfied with current oil prices and the accumulated reserves would fulfill the "budget and social obligations" even if the situation worsened.

          Read more at RBC:
          https://www.rbc.ru/business/05/03/2020/5e5f68609a79479362f4487c
    4. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 12 2020 13: 28 New
      +2
      Although he is vice president, he is, in my opinion, not the most significant figure in the company.
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker April 12 2020 11: 03 New
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    This agreement can only be compared with the Brest Peace Treaty with a purchased education. There was war and the need for peace, but here the authorities themselves decided to "butt" with the United States, they decided to ruin the shale industry. Here's the face and cracked!
    1. ancient
      ancient April 12 2020 11: 22 New
      +9
      Quote: steel maker
      and here the authorities themselves decided to "butt" with the United States, they decided to ruin the shale producers

      "They" always have ... "show-off is more expensive than money" .... but the fact that to "butt", you first need to have a head, and not .... "spread your fingers" wassat
    2. dvina71
      dvina71 April 12 2020 11: 24 New
      -6
      Quote: steel maker
      here the authorities themselves decided to "butt" with the United States, they decided to ruin the shale producers.

      And when did the authorities announce this?
  • 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor April 12 2020 11: 06 New
    +2
    Quote: Mobius
    I would give an example of the Brest Peace when the Bolsheviks in 1918 were forced for various reasons to make a deal with Germany, which was humiliating and difficult

    And other experts say differently ..! USA, Saudi, and Canada, etc. Russia won the war of nerves, oil will be in the range of $ 45 !!! It suits everyone .. Because the fall in oil prices, primarily to Russia, was directed (remember the collapse of the USSR, then the economy collapsed and infovoy)))
    So who won and who lost, this is a moot point! Well, Russia remained with its own, that's for sure .. hi
    R / S / The oligarchy, of course, our minus will remain a little .. They will have to pay for the holidays, that’s angry and their singers howl too


    and what will be the mechanism of payment by the oligarchs for vacations, do not clarify?
    1. Sergey Nemov
      Sergey Nemov April 12 2020 12: 12 New
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      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
      what will the oligarchs pay for the holidays

      Simple enough. Oligarchs will pay for the holidays by raising gas prices
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  • tatra
    tatra April 12 2020 11: 10 New
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    There can be only one analogy with the Brest Peace, and not the one that Fedun stated. The analogy is that at first they refused the proposed conditions, and then they had to agree on more unfavorable conditions.
    At the negotiations on the Brest-Litovsk Peace, at first the Germans offered the Bolsheviks some conditions, but Trotsky got in from his "no peace, no war", thwarted the negotiations, and then the Germans put forward even worse conditions for Russia, to which the Bolsheviks had to agree.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir April 12 2020 11: 11 New
    16
    Briefly about the obscene Brest peace, otherwise the patriots believe that they again won someone.
    Let me remind you that at the beginning of March 2020, Putin’s defective managers Novak and Sechin disrupted the deal with OPEC + to reduce oil production. Moreover, the conditions for Russia were proposed rather benign: a decrease in daily production by 0,5 million barrels with a total volume of 11 million.

    Moreover, the refusal was accompanied by extremely boastful statements addressed to the United States and offensive actions against Saudi Arabia.

    In response, Saudi Arabia sharply increased the level of production of its cheap oil and thereby dropped world oil prices to a minimum. What turned out for the Russian economy a sharp depreciation of the ruble against the dollar and the threat of a serious economic crisis.

    As a result, realizing the seriousness of the situation, Putin’s defective managers sharply slowed down and fell back, sat down again at the negotiating table, but on completely different conditions - less favorable, of course. Now Russia has to reduce its daily production by 2,5 million barrels. Those. 5 times more than was proposed a month ago, in early March.
    1. onix757
      onix757 April 12 2020 11: 19 New
      +5
      sharply dropped their tone and turned back, sat down again at the negotiating table, but on completely different conditions

      So Trump had to ask for mediation in restoring the dialogue with SA. He certainly helped, but Venezuela had to pay.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock April 12 2020 11: 38 New
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        Quote: onix757
        So Trump had to ask for mediation in restoring the dialogue with SA. He certainly helped, but Venezuela had to pay.

        "If you sit on the river bank for a long time, the corpse of your enemy will surely float by." - Chinese wisdom
        1. Romey
          Romey April 12 2020 17: 15 New
          +2
          If things go further with such bright victories, then apparently the next currency will be sacred Syria ...
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 11: 17 New
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    Quote: Mobius
    so that who won and who lost, there is a moot point! Well, Russia remained with its own, that's for sure ..
    R / S / The oligarchy, of course, our minus will remain a little .. They will have to pay for the holidays, that’s angry and their singers howl too

    We will pay, for everything, Sechin and the Millers will only fill their own pockets on this. own and partners
    "Well, Russia has remained with its own people, that's for sure ..", it is Putin who has remained with its own people, whom he does not abandon
    1. Sergey Nemov
      Sergey Nemov April 12 2020 12: 07 New
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      Quote: aglet
      "Well, Russia has remained with its own people, that's for sure ..", it is Putin who has remained with its own people, whom he does not abandon

      Well, why only he, the people remained the same with their own people. With your payments for everything.
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 11: 18 New
    +4
    Quote: Tusv
    All the oil workers of the world gathered in the meadow and played the game, who will score the most
    Reply

    ours, as always, won!
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 11: 19 New
    +4
    Quote: Mobius
    oil will be around $ 45 !!!

    when? will everyone survive before this?
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 11: 20 New
    +4
    Quote: Vladimir16
    Lukoil needs to be nationalized.

    only Lukoil? and Central Bank? What about the Kremlin?
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  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 11: 23 New
    +5
    Quote: Mobius
    Sberbank say the state bought back the assets of our private owners in Venezuela .. There’s something interesting in power!

    there is nothing interesting. this is called nationalization of losses, as always
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 11: 25 New
    +2
    Quote: Lannan Shi
    The IVS did not have sparring partners, increased gluttony

    how lucky he is. and to all of us
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 11: 26 New
    +4
    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
    a question of professional suitability of industry leaders?

    do you think industries? and who put them there?
  • fa2998
    fa2998 April 12 2020 11: 28 New
    +3
    Quote: 2 level advisor
    as well as instead of Lukoil in your post a couple of dozen company names to put the trading country, and I completely agree with your post ..

    The need for privatization was expressed precisely by increasing efficiency in private hands. And so profitable sectors — gas and oil — were privatized. Non-ferrous metallurgy was also privately owned. The rest of the private sector was breathing, or closed. hi
    1. Sergey Nemov
      Sergey Nemov April 12 2020 12: 03 New
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      Quote: fa2998
      Bring everything back!

      Nationalization is a measure of the socio-economic policy of the state, the legal transfer of property belonging to private individuals or joint-stock companies to the state’s property through the voluntary transfer, confiscation or redemption of this property.
      Nobody will go to confiscation and voluntary transfer, and to redeem, whether it will be too fat for the oligarchs?
      1. svoit
        svoit April 12 2020 16: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: Sergey Nemov
        and redeem if the oligarchs are too bold?

        Well, you can put their life, but let them decide for themselves in a lot or a little, in 24 hours
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 11: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: Rostislav
    In this case, the role of a wise monkey watching a tiger and a bear fight was played by the Americans.

    as always, they never lost grandmothers
  • yfast
    yfast April 12 2020 11: 34 New
    -3
    To this case, there is such an English word asatsation.
  • NordUral
    NordUral April 12 2020 11: 36 New
    +4
    The deal allows you to raise the cost of oil to $ 30-40 per barrel, which will bring Russia 70-80 million dollars a day, and this alone justifies the deal.


    I would tell in more detail how these millions will share. What to the people, and what to the oligarchs.
    1. Sergey Nemov
      Sergey Nemov April 12 2020 12: 00 New
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      Quote: NordUral
      What to the people

      Nothing to the people ...
      Quote: NordUral
      what oligarchs

      The oligarchs are all! yes
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 12 2020 12: 03 New
        +2
        Busting - gnawed bones to the people.
    2. businessv
      businessv April 12 2020 12: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: NordUral
      I would tell in more detail how these millions will share.

      Yeah, focusing on the question in particular: And what about the dollar and the euro will return to the old prices ?! repeat
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 12 2020 15: 10 New
        +1
        It seems that with these already never, Vadim.
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 11: 38 New
    +2
    Quote: steel maker
    This vice-president of the largest Russian private oil company LUKOIL, Leonid Fedun, needs to be driven

    and Sechin is not necessary to drive anywhere? he, too, at Rosneft, doesn’t have gasoline
    1. Sergey Nemov
      Sergey Nemov April 12 2020 11: 58 New
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      Quote: aglet
      and Sechin is not necessary to drive anywhere?

      It is necessary, it is necessary to drive everyone. And first of all, Chubais am
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 11: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: Vol4ara
    Thank God that gas is not at the price of water

    Yes, something like that costs 30 rezalitr, and the so-called mineral, and more expensive, up to 70 re
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 11: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: dvina71
    Interesting .. everyone knows with what intentions the Kremlin gave the command not to sign a new agreement that led to a drop in prices and from this knowledge they conclude that the Kremlin lost ..
    Just .. where did the insider come from? Is the Kremlin suicidal?
    The reason seemed to be voiced right away - only the Russian Federation and the SA are reduced in production,

    just if the Kremlin won, a dollar at 30, and oil at 100. isn’t it? mean lost
  • Demon_is_ada
    Demon_is_ada April 12 2020 11: 44 New
    0
    Quote: article
    Vice President of the largest Russian privately owned oil company LUKOIL Leonid Fedun in an interview with RBC commented on the conclusion of a new OPEC + deal, calling it a necessary, but "humiliating and difficult" peace.

    The highlighted words are a private point of view, and at all not reflecting the interests of the majority of the people laughing ... Friends, as the liberals say - do not confuse your pockets and theirs! In this moment, I agree with them precisely because of this, and such a discrepancy even on our forum ... I will share with you some of my "visions" hi
    1. Your eternal suffering about gas prices laughing In a normal country with a stable economy and currency, prices are stable, regardless of the "market situation", this is an indicator of integration into globalization, which has failed miserably due to the coronavirus ... yeah ... A self-sufficient and closed state should function this way ... That is, the general meaning is that we consume our oil ourselves. hi
    2. Russia lost ... not wassat Private traders lost who lost additional income due to the collapse of the oil market, they are ready to sell profits for one dollar, still not their own people’s, and there’s a flood. If Russia is the people - then they won, if the oligarchs - then they lost lol , looking from which side to look and evaluate. Let industry develop, and not loot invest in gold toilets ...
    There are factors that one way or another still affect, this is how the "market" economy is structured into which we have already entered crying , this is the "gas station country" dreamed of in the west, they partially succeeded ... Part of the budget revenues from energy resources, alas ...
    So for starters you need to realize who you are and what interests you pursue and from which side you look at what is happening ...
    1. Kronos
      Kronos April 12 2020 12: 26 New
      +3
      Oga people benefited from the depreciation of the ruble and rising prices
      1. Demon_is_ada
        Demon_is_ada April 12 2020 13: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: Demon_is_ada
        There are factors that one way or another still affect, this is how the "market" economy is structured into which we have already got into crying, this is the "gas station country" that the West dreamed of, they partially succeeded ... Part of the budget revenues from energy resources, alas ..

        You apparently did not read carefully? And the politburo probably raised the prices ... ... or the nouveau riche people you voted for (silence in this case = approval) ??? And probably Moshiach come - the order is Navide? laughing No one will give you anything just like that, the people always pay for everything, okay when for their sins, and when for others ... although ... "You are responsible for those you have tamed" lol Well ... how unpleasant turn in dialogue? I understand that this is not in the template set for obvious reasons wassat You can agree, but you can deny and ignore it before stupidity ... the dumber the population, the worse it lives fool Alas, the dialectic ... Of course, you can fall into infantilism and whine a bunch of legs on the floor demanding from your mother (in our case, from Moshiach, aliens) what she would do for you well and pleasantly without regard to the price ... The choice is yours .. og ... wink
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 11: 47 New
    +4
    Quote: Overlock
    And under Stalin, after World War II, in conditions of real devastation, prices were reduced

    well so, terran zhezh
    1. Sergey Nemov
      Sergey Nemov April 12 2020 11: 55 New
      16
      Quote: aglet
      Quote: Overlock
      And under Stalin, after World War II, in conditions of real devastation, prices were reduced

      well so, terran zhezh

      In general, the USSR was an "evil empire". Schools, hospitals, sanatoriums, kindergartens were forcibly built. But what can I say, whole cities were erected!
  • wert111
    wert111 April 12 2020 11: 57 New
    +3
    Shale oil, if not reset, was significantly reduced. World production reduced by 23%! Here is the main result. And if they went to a deal on March 6th, what would they have now? Due to the coronovirus, the decline in production, full storage of oil, panic of the market, prices close to zero. After all, the world now does not consume as much as they wanted to mine on March 6! For any then again would have to be reduced. And it is not known on what conditions ... In general, in the end it turned out not good and not bad.
    1. svoit
      svoit April 12 2020 16: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: wert111
      And if you went to a deal on March 6, what would you have now?

      There would be no oil crisis, oil would drop quite smoothly to $ 45 by mid-May, then of course it would again need to be cut by the same 1.5 million, which would allow the oil price not to drop below $ 40, while shale oil production would decrease by 0.5 million. Well, the dollar exchange rate by May would not exceed 70 rubles.
  • d4rkmesa
    d4rkmesa April 12 2020 12: 00 New
    +5
    Fedun is from the category of eternally disgruntled business owners. Tries to sit on all the chairs at once. The absence of an agreement is bad for him, and an agreement is also bad. Here you need to turn on the brain to understand why this is so. A month later, after exiting the deal, the situation changed dramatically. In the Russian Federation and other countries, a full-fledged quarantine is being introduced, oil consumption has decreased, as it were, by 50%. Critics and couch oil analysts popped up everywhere, ugh. Watching headlines is disgusting, much less reading. Where have you been before, experts, analysts, what are your suggestions, what to do with oil? The agreement on the principle "neither ours nor yours" is not the worst in the current conditions, there are no analogies with the Brest Peace Treaty. CA and RF reduce production to the same levels. Although the Saudis can produce 14 million barrels per day. And, as usual, the Arabs will cut their booty faster. Everyone understands this. And the existing reduction will not raise prices to the level of "write", so that part of production will be reduced in a market way. And the unclaimed oil will remain for descendants.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 April 12 2020 14: 00 New
      0
      Quote: d4rkmesa
      Fedun - from the category of eternally displeased business owners.

      To the heap, incontinent, prone to hysterical reactions. In short, a portrait of the average commentator VO, of which one can observe on this branch in a fair amount. laughing
  • businessv
    businessv April 12 2020 12: 36 New
    +2
    The main share of the reduction in production is taken by Saudi Arabia and Russia.
    But what about minke whales ?! Horseback again?
  • Gust
    Gust April 12 2020 12: 37 New
    +1
    Right Everyone forgot that the main burden of the consequences of the reduction would fall on OPEC + RF (Saud + RF in fact), and even in the war of nerves it was possible to bend the Mex. And in total, remove from the market 10 million instead of 1,5-2. And agree on many more points at once. So do not worry too much, there is no silver lining.
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 12: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: Piramidon
    As if there are some kind of semi-literate losers-USEshniki managers and lawyers work.

    and who do you think works there? they, but friends, relatives, tatami partners. there are no specialists for a long time, since the time of Chernomyrdin
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 12: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: Spade
    However, all this does not answer the following questions:
    --- Why did the Saudis put forward obviously unacceptable requirements for Russia?
    --- Why was Russia obliged to cede part of the markets to the Americans?
    --- Why are there so many people who believe that Russia was obliged to immediately give in to the American dictatorship and not get too busy?

    and why did Russia give in to all the requirements, and did not repent?
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 12: 47 New
    0
    Quote: Overlock
    Trump does nothing for free
    Well, the rest, we will watch

    and trump what? America will reduce production by a scanty amount, and voluntarily, and with an increase in value, will have good profits without losing anything in return
    1. Redfox11
      Redfox11 April 12 2020 13: 03 New
      -3
      America will reduce by 3 million barrels this year and will be able to return them, since the price will hover by 40, and the average price of oil shale 47-52.Russia at the end of the year will begin to increase production back and will occupy the share of Americans, without an epidemic this would be done in one call with the collapse of the deal in March, since the goal now is to keep oil at a price of 40-45 by killing oil shale and gaining its market share. Lukoil has always been opposed to withdrawing from the transaction, trustees, since they have no way to increase production, unlike Rosneft.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 April 12 2020 17: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: RedFox11
        Russia at the end of the year will begin to increase production back

        And get the teeth so that little seems.
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 12: 50 New
    0
    Quote: Spade
    And these 600 (actually 500) would quickly turn into 2, 4, 6 .... As the Americans and Saudis please.

    and what have they turned into now? at 200? or 100?
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 12: 59 New
    +2
    Quote: Sergey Nemov
    Forced schools, hospitals, motels, kindergartens were built. What can I say, whole cities were built!

    here it will be more correct to say, they planted)
  • aglet
    aglet April 12 2020 13: 04 New
    0
    Quote: wert111
    oronovirus production decline, full oil storage, market panic, close to zero prices

    and now what? only, unlike the price of oil, the prices for everything at us are confidently going up, and if we hid a little, due to a decrease in demand, then they will still trample if the virus is defeated