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Clash on nuclear frontier: India strikes with 155mm howitzer FH77 Bofors

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From India, there are reports of a new clash on the Indo-Pakistani border in Jammu and Kashmir. Indian media report that the Pakistani army opened fire on Indian territory using artillery and small arms weapon.


As stated in the Ministry of Defense of India, the Indian security forces "were forced to engage in a shootout."

From materials in the Indian media:

The Indian army used artillery to defeat enemy firing points. Ammunition depots were also chosen as targets. The operation was carried out in the sector of Keran in Kupwar (Jammu and Kashmir). Earlier there, terrorists tried to break through the border.

Recall that during the breakthrough attempt made by the militants, 5 Indian soldiers were killed, including paratroopers from the Para-SF detachment, who were ambushed. They were landed in the area of ​​combat clashes from the air (from the helicopter). According to some reports, the reason for the decrease in the combat effectiveness of this detachment was that the Indian paratroopers were landed in deep snow.

It is reported that during the Friday shootout, Indian troops used 105 and 155 mm caliber artillery. In particular, we are talking about the 155-mm howitzer FH77 Bofors.

Press officer of the Indian Ministry of Defense:

Our troops responded effectively and decisively. There are reports of heavy damage on the Pakistani side. There are no victims on our part. In connection with the melting of snow on the passes, the number of provocations and attempts to break through the border increased. But we are ready to stop them.


Presented is a video with shots taken from a drone. The shots show the hit of a shell in the ammunition depot, where the detonation of the contents began:



It is worth recalling that India and Pakistan are nuclear powers adjacent to each other.
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  1. unhappy
    unhappy April 11 2020 07: 16 New
    -3
    I look at the photo and the "parquet jeep" comes to mind, how it is in the mud with these wheels ...
    1. Paul Siebert
      Paul Siebert April 11 2020 07: 37 New
      -4
      Quote: unhappy
      I look at the photo and the "parquet jeep" comes to mind, how it is in the mud with these wheels ...

      Swedes did.
      There they have asphalt everywhere.
      The Indians need to buy our "Malki". And on caterpillars and if it shakes - so it shakes! laughing
      1. venik
        venik April 11 2020 09: 27 New
        +3
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        Swedes did. There they have asphalt everywhere.

        =======
        Excuse me, but in the photo below - ALSO Sweden?

        fool
        1. Navat
          Navat April 11 2020 12: 07 New
          -3
          Keep your fists for the Indians
      2. alexmach
        alexmach April 11 2020 10: 53 New
        0
        Swedes did.
        There they have asphalt everywhere.

        Is that the Swedes? Can you imagine where this Sweden is located?
        1. Paul Siebert
          Paul Siebert April 11 2020 12: 32 New
          -1
          Quote: alexmach
          Is that the Swedes? Can you imagine where this Sweden is located?

          Tell the ignoramus.
          Somewhere near Poltava?
          1. alexmach
            alexmach April 11 2020 13: 58 New
            0
            Soviet textbook on geography for the sixth grade to help you.
            1. Paul Siebert
              Paul Siebert April 11 2020 14: 06 New
              -1
              That is, do not you remember?
            2. Paul Siebert
              Paul Siebert April 11 2020 14: 11 New
              +1
              Quote: alexmach
              Soviet textbook on geography for the sixth grade to help you.

              Judging by the word "walk", you learned Russian from this textbook ...
              1. alexmach
                alexmach April 11 2020 14: 59 New
                -2
                Well, at least something has been given to you in this life. Although you can talk about the rules of spelling. Only the forum did you happen to be mistaken?
                1. Paul Siebert
                  Paul Siebert April 11 2020 15: 14 New
                  +1
                  Do you want to teach me life, dear?
                  According to sixth grade textbooks?
                  Wow - I choose the forums ...
                  To get started, go to Sweden.
                  By the way, I've been there four times ...
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach April 11 2020 15: 23 New
                    -2
                    Do you want to teach me life, dear?

                    I don’t have the slightest desire at all, I just point out to you the fallacy of your argument.
                    By the way, I've been there four times ...

                    This is of course an achievement, it is difficult to challenge.
                    Wow - I choose the forums ...

                    Your rude behavior generally does not leave any desire to communicate with you.
      3. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 April 11 2020 11: 01 New
        0
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        There they have asphalt everywhere.

        yeah, solid asphalt))



        In Sweden, the conditions are roughly the same. like in our middle lane
    2. Finches
      Finches April 11 2020 07: 43 New
      10
      The Indo-Pakistani conflict has been going on since 1947 .... and, I think, it will last the same three more times! Mahatma Gandhi was trying to reach out to both Hindus and Muslims that you can live in peace, but the Muslims did not like to obey the Indians, and the Indians were not going to (and are not going to) give Kashmir, which is populated mainly by Muslims, to Pakistan and everything was wrapped up ... Kashmir is almost all over the square like Belarus - I write here, Belarus should join Russia, so the Belarusians write letters to me calling me an occupant and accusing me of frenzied militant chauvinism - and we are one people, of the same faith ... laughing And here is the exact opposite - this fuss will not end, and the presence of nuclear weapons India and Pakistan more or less restrains from a big mess! But if Belarus and Russia reunite sooner or later, because this is a historical fact, and separation is artificially created historical stupidity, then the Indo-Pakistan conflict is unresolvable!
      1. Mebius
        Mebius April 11 2020 08: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        .and, I think, three more times will last the same!

        I agree .. It’s with them, like guard dances on the border ..))))
      2. Dog
        Dog April 12 2020 23: 28 New
        0
        Quote: Finches
        Gandhi kept trying to reach out to both Hindus and Muslims, that you can live in peace, but Muslims did not like to obey the Indians

        Why would you? The Indians have continuous jolly - there, for example, in the 70s the program of mass sterilization of the population was implemented. Not life - but a fairy tale.
    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 11 2020 07: 54 New
      +5
      Quote: unhappy
      I look at the photo and the "parquet jeep" comes to mind, how it is in the mud with these wheels ...

      Great, she's in the mud. It can even help a towing vehicle if stuck
      1. unhappy
        unhappy April 11 2020 08: 03 New
        +2
        Do not confuse people. This car should still carry a howitzer in the war zone, it will ride on asphalt in a parade. Wheels on remote brackets, as in children's drawings.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 11 2020 08: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: unhappy
          Do not confuse people. This car should still carry a howitzer in a war zone,

          Конечно.
          As, for example, 2A65, which are now used in Syria.

          But at the same time, the FH77 is orders of magnitude better than the Msta-B. Just a number: thanks to the hydraulics of the Bofos, the time for transferring from marching to combat is 50 seconds, for 2A65 2 is 2.5 minutes

          Quote: unhappy
          Wheels on remote brackets, as in children's drawings.

          More of this wheel, or less?
          1. unhappy
            unhappy April 11 2020 08: 25 New
            -5
            You moved the topic to the time of the transfer to the fighting position, why? Someone mentioned about him? Can we recall the guns of the First World War?
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 11 2020 09: 07 New
              +6
              Quote: unhappy
              You moved the topic to the time of the transfer to the fighting position, why?

              Do you think that the engine on the FH77 is designed only for movement? That would be stupid. Movement, transfer from marching to combat and back, loading, guidance and restoration of aiming are all hydraulics.

              Such a figure: a cycle from transferring from marching to combat, 8 shots, transferring from combat to marching and moving 500 meters takes no more than three minutes.
              During this time, 2A65 will only deploy in combat and begin to shoot

              Quote: unhappy
              Can we recall the guns of the First World War?

              Let me remind you that D-30, 2A65 and 2A36 are currently in service with Russian artillery, and are actively used, including in Syria
              1. unhappy
                unhappy April 12 2020 06: 03 New
                -2
                People on this site are well aware of this information. Did you get the plus sign? Congratulations.
                To compare the parameters of combat vehicles created with a difference of fifty years is silly.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov April 12 2020 07: 58 New
                  -2
                  Quote: unhappy
                  To compare the parameters of combat vehicles created with a difference of fifty years is silly.

                  ??
                  FH77 adopted by the Swedish artillery in 1978.
                  The 2A65 "Msta-S" was put into service in 1987.

                  Not fifty, but nine years.
                  1. unhappy
                    unhappy April 13 2020 07: 23 New
                    0
                    Your truth, sorry. It’s only worth recalling the difference between a Kalashnikov assault rifle and an American M-16 in Vietnam. It is also worth recalling about the shortcomings of the T-34 tank that did not prevent the effective performance of combat missions not of the tank but of the tank units.
                    The first place in the evaluation of weapons is the concept of efficiency, a set of parameters, and not some particular parameter like the presence of a hydraulic system.
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov April 13 2020 08: 53 New
                      0
                      Quote: unhappy
                      It’s only worth recalling the difference between a Kalashnikov assault rifle and an American M-16 in Vietnam.

                      It’s not an automaton, it’s a mine. Powerful, modern, reliable ... but one-time. Because in the conditions of counter-battery it is a weapon for one fire attack.

                      FH77 has a much better chance.
              2. Bobik012
                Bobik012 April 12 2020 13: 58 New
                +2
                Read sometimes what you write! Traveling in three minutes to 500 meters is a non-stop movement at a speed of 10 km / h. And also curl-turn around, 8 times aim-shoot, etc. Dreamers
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov April 12 2020 16: 03 New
                  -2
                  Let's count, all of a sudden, the truth is incorrectly written.
                  Turn into combat 50 seconds
                  Guidance - on the strength of five seconds
                  The first three shots with the restoration of the tip 13 seconds
                  The remaining five with 38 seconds recovery
                  From combat to marching 50 seconds.
                  A total of 156 seconds, 24 seconds to move. At a speed of 8 km / h it is 53 meters.
                  All right. 3 meters even extra.
                  1. Dog
                    Dog April 12 2020 23: 57 New
                    0
                    Quote: Spade
                    53 meters

                    Mistaken 10 times - think!
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov April 13 2020 08: 50 New
                      0
                      Damn, just noticed. Extra Zero

                      It justifies me that GlobalSecurity.org is a very serious site and usually does not allow such errors /
                      However, we figured out the numbers, and still the FH77 is far ahead of 2A65 in its capabilities
            2. Private-K
              Private-K April 11 2020 10: 24 New
              +1
              These wheels are just busy moving from position to position. hi
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 11 2020 11: 48 New
                0
                Including. But the main task is moving
                1. Dog
                  Dog April 12 2020 23: 58 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Spade
                  Displacement

                  On the asphalt? I didn’t notice where you patched their patency.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov April 13 2020 08: 41 New
                    0
                    Quote: Dog⁣
                    On the asphalt? I didn’t notice where you patched their patency.

                    And I didn’t notice where you refuted it
            3. Dog
              Dog April 13 2020 00: 17 New
              +1
              Quote: unhappy
              You translated the topic

              Never mind. This citizen prefers to argue with his own invented statements, attributing them to his opponent. So, you know, he’s got something from him.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 13 2020 08: 43 New
                0
                Quote: Dog⁣
                This citizen prefers to argue with his own invented allegations

                And you used to lie. Like just that. Is that the only way to argue in the absence of knowledge?
          2. venik
            venik April 11 2020 10: 01 New
            +2
            Quote: Spade
            But at the same time FH77 is orders of magnitude better than "Msta-B"

            ========
            More than a controversial statement! As well as the ability to "self-propel".
            But what FH77 is - great howitzer - no doubt about that!
    4. venik
      venik April 11 2020 09: 25 New
      +5
      Quote: unhappy
      how she is in the mud with these wheels ...

      =========
      So I think, "how is it through the mud with such small wheels"?

      PS The photo shows the 152 mm howitzer Msta-B. If you mean the small removable wheels on the coulters - so they are used for easy towing!
      PPS Sometimes it's better to be silent than to speak!
      1. Dog
        Dog April 13 2020 00: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: venik
        If you mean the small removable wheels on the coulters - so they are used for easy towing!

        Look at least a photo / video of towing a vehicle - in the stowed position, these wheels are generally on top. What is the convenience of towing?
        And your courageous remark to you in return:
        Quote: venik
        PPS Sometimes it's better to be silent than to speak!
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 13 2020 09: 00 New
          0
          Quote: Dog⁣
          Look at least a photo / video of towing a vehicle - in the stowed position, these wheels are generally on top. What is the convenience of towing?

          To move the howitzer to the stowed position without these podkhobotovy skating rinks is very hemorrhoid and requires more people than the calculation of howitzers
          And to tow a howitzer in a fighting position .... to put it mildly, it is inconvenient.
    5. Atlant-1164
      Atlant-1164 April 11 2020 09: 41 New
      10
      and these are like little children. "and I have a nail in my pocket")
    6. The comment was deleted.
  2. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin April 11 2020 07: 17 New
    -5
    The virus is not enough for them. We also decided to kill each other with weapons.
    That's where the hegemon needs to use its capabilities, try them on even for a while while the virus is walking
  3. shubin
    shubin April 11 2020 07: 24 New
    +1
    But once it was one country, and now like Ukraine and Russia.
    1. Amateur
      Amateur April 11 2020 07: 33 New
      +3
      But once it was one country

      They were never one country. They were one English colony. They have a different language and different religion. But the Angles specifically made Jammu and Kashmir so that India and Pakistan would conflict for the rest of their lives.
      1. Professor
        Professor April 11 2020 08: 02 New
        +4
        Quote: Amateur
        But once it was one country

        They were never one country. They were one English colony. They have a different language and different religion. But the Angles specifically made Jammu and Kashmir so that India and Pakistan would conflict for the rest of their lives.

        Where the British visited and took control, the blood is still pouring. Burn them in hell.
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 April 11 2020 08: 25 New
          -2
          Where the British visited and took control, the blood is still pouring. Burn them in hell.
          Not everywhere. hi It's awesome in the Crimea. There are wonderful weather, I dare to notice you. And so, in principle, yes. Rare fishes are rare. yes
          1. Professor
            Professor April 11 2020 08: 45 New
            -12
            Quote: Observer2014
            Where the British visited and took control, the blood is still pouring. Burn them in hell.
            Not everywhere. hi It's awesome in the Crimea. There are wonderful weather, I dare to notice you. And so, in principle, yes. Rare fishes are rare. yes

            1. In Crimea, they did not rule.
            2. Tell the pioneers about the "bloodless" "annexation" of the Crimea.

            Quote: Vasya17
            visited Australia, USA, Canada

            Australia and Canada are still under the queen, and they shed a lot of blood on the natives and Indians. With the United States also fought.
            1. musketon64
              musketon64 April 11 2020 09: 07 New
              +9
              2. Tell the pioneers about the "bloodless" "annexation" of the Crimea.))))))
              --------------------------------------------------
              Tell the Boy Scouts about the "bloody resistance".
        2. Vasya17
          Vasya17 April 11 2020 08: 36 New
          0
          visited Australia, USA, Canada
        3. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 11 2020 11: 56 New
          +1
          I can not agree. The British left behind organized
          well-equipped countries with developed infrastructure, state
          institutes, police, post offices, hospitals, ports.
          Those countries that had the mind after the departure of the English colonialists
          all not to ruin and plunder, easily passed to independence.
          1. LKW UE
            LKW UE April 11 2020 14: 37 New
            0
            And which for example? It’s not enough to go over to independence, you also need to preserve it in fact. And then the British left, but the interests of the corporations remained and it became much more interesting for them to work and earn profits in countries with eternal conflicts, without spending more on the maintenance of the Aboriginal police, post office, hospital, infrastructure ...
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh April 11 2020 15: 27 New
              0
              "it became much more interesting to work and make profit" ///
              ---
              Wrong.
              A lot less interesting. Because when a country gains independence,
              then it usually partially nationalizes the ownership of foreign corporations.
              In addition, they now have to pay taxes to the budget of this country.
          2. Professor
            Professor April 11 2020 15: 59 New
            -1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            I can not agree. The British left behind organized
            well-equipped countries with developed infrastructure, state
            institutes, police, post offices, hospitals, ports.
            Those countries that had the mind after the departure of the English colonialists
            all not to ruin and plunder, easily passed to independence.

            Oh yeah. The French simply robbed, and the British created the infrastructure to rob. However:
            India - Pakistan
            Israel-Philistines
            Israel-Jordan
            Cyprus-Turkey
            etc
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh April 11 2020 17: 41 New
              +1
              In all the examples you cited
              division into states according to national or religious grounds.
              And rightly so.
              And in all the examples, this prevented the domestic massacre between
              nationalities or faiths, which is much worse than border conflicts.
              1. Professor
                Professor April 11 2020 19: 17 New
                -2
                Quote: voyaka uh
                In all the examples you cited
                division into states according to national or religious grounds.
                And rightly so.

                No, not right. I won’t remember the rest of the BV countries, but Palestine was not divided correctly between Arabs and Jews, and then the Jewish part was again not correctly divided into Jewish and Arab. Yes, how to share. The partition plan died unborn.

                Quote: voyaka uh
                And in all the examples, this prevented the domestic massacre between
                nationalities or faiths, which is much worse than border conflicts.

                Yah? Which country were the Britons successfully divided and the peoples live there in peace and harmony?
            2. Dog
              Dog April 13 2020 02: 55 New
              0
              Quote: Professor
              Israel-Philistines
              Israel-Jordan

              There are a lot of problems with Israel. Maybe it's not about the British?
          3. 16329
            16329 April 11 2020 18: 36 New
            0
            At the time of the beginning of British penetration (the rest of the Indian company), the Mughal Empire (which arose after the Uzbeks conquered India) was the richest country in the world and India's GDP was much higher than the British
            During colonial exploitation, the British stupidly robbed India.
            The results of this robbery formed the basis of the power of the British crown (of course, the British activity in China, which began after the Opium Wars contributed, China was also richer than Britain then)
            And their infrastructure projects were of importance just for the process of colonial exploitation
            So the civilizational achievements of Britain in India are doubtful
            And you could do without them
            1. Dog
              Dog April 13 2020 02: 58 New
              0
              Quote: 16329
              Mughal Empire (originated after the curling of India by the Uzbeks)

              Everything is fine in this phrase - from spelling to content.
      2. venik
        venik April 11 2020 10: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: Amateur
        They were never one country. They were one English colony.

        ==========
        They were just ONE country, and LONG (for thousands of years) before they became a British colony!
        Although in fairness it should be noted that they were never a ONE country! They were always divided into small principalities, often at odds with each other.
      3. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 April 11 2020 12: 27 New
        0
        The language of most Pakistanis and more than half of the Indians is the same, with regional differences. Hindi in India, Urdu in Pakistan. They are mutually understood. In India, by the way, there are almost as many Muslims as the entire population of Pakistan.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny April 11 2020 15: 20 New
          +2
          Even more. Somewhere there was infa that Muslims in India are about 400 million, and the population of Pakistan is about 160 million.
      4. Bobik012
        Bobik012 April 12 2020 14: 01 New
        0
        The language is quite the same. Different writing
    2. Graz
      Graz April 11 2020 07: 34 New
      +1
      they were not one country, both sides were part of the British Empire as colonies, and only, and before that there was feudal fragmentation into many principalities
      1. HDZ
        HDZ April 11 2020 10: 03 New
        0
        Quote: Graz
        they were not one country, both sides were part of the British Empire as colonies, and only, and before that there was feudal fragmentation into many principalities

        The Great Mughals choked on tea now.
      2. venik
        venik April 11 2020 10: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: Graz
        they were not one country

        ========
        What to say? request Learn History!
      3. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 April 11 2020 12: 38 New
        0
        There was British India as a part of the colonial possessions of Britain (a large part of the population) and dozens of protectorates-principalities (a smaller part of the population) of different sizes, from tiny to huge Hyderabad. At the same time, British India had a single currency rupee, a single customs space. There were colonial troops and troops of the principalities. In the interwar period, British India was a member of the League of Nations. However, the majority of the members of the Indian delegation in the League of Nations were English. And maybe that's all. I don’t remember exactly, there are no materials at hand. Power at the central level was mainly in the hands of the British, with the participation of the Indians with an advisory voice. At the regional level, it was equally divided between the British and Indians. The principalities were under the protectorate of Great Britain and the authorities of British India. Municipal corporations were predominantly in the hands of the Saami Indians.
    3. Grits
      Grits April 11 2020 11: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: shubin
      But once it was one country, and now like Ukraine and Russia.

      Tyuyuyu ... yes there are plenty of examples. Moreover, they are so bloody that Ukraine and Russia are children's toys ...
      Serbia - Croatia - Bosnia
      North and South Sudan
      Armenia - Azerbaijan
      Ethiopia - Eritrea
      Well, cherry - North and South Korea
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 April 11 2020 16: 18 New
        0
        Sudan Arabs, South Sudan blacks.
  4. maykl8
    maykl8 April 11 2020 07: 33 New
    -2
    India stabbed with 155mm howitzer FH77 Bofors

    Air strikes and missile forces. Artillery fires at individual targets (single or group) or fires at areas of massive fire (several fire attacks at the same time at a particular site).
    1. unhappy
      unhappy April 11 2020 07: 42 New
      +1
      But what
      Plaque, fly, flew - artillery, not a plane.
      What a difficult language.
      1. maykl8
        maykl8 April 11 2020 07: 47 New
        +4
        Bandits are not pilots either. However, a raid on the bank commit. laughing
        1. venik
          venik April 11 2020 10: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: maykl8
          Bandits are not pilots either. However, a raid on the bank commit. laughing

          =========
          "... Tartakovsky in Odessa was called "one and a half w ... a" or "18 raids" .... well, and the nickname! 15 raids "he received because he and his shop survived not 17 or 19, but 18 raids..... "(Babael" Cavalry "). laughing
          PS Tartakovsky, too, was not a pilot!
          PPS How GREAT and MIGHT Russian tongue!
        2. Grits
          Grits April 11 2020 12: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: maykl8
          Bandits are not pilots either. However, a raid on the bank commit.

          And there is plaque on the teeth. Enemy, bastard ...
      2. Avior
        Avior April 11 2020 08: 59 New
        0
        Military terminology is gradually taking shape
        Article 27

        During sieges and bombings, all necessary measures must be taken to spare, as far as possible, temples, buildings serving the purposes of science, arts and charity, historical monuments, hospitals and places where the sick and wounded are collected, under the condition that such buildings and places did not serve military purposes at the same time.

        The besieged are obligated to designate these buildings and places with special visible signs, of which the besiegers must be informed in advance.

        Documentation of 1907.
        Bombards are no longer in use, bombers have not yet entered, and there have been bombings.
        hi
        1. maykl8
          maykl8 April 11 2020 11: 43 New
          0
          IMHO. The word "bombing" comes from the word "bomb". And "Bombards" and "Bombers" are means of delivering a bomb to a target.
          In the period before the First World War, inclusive bombs were called heavy explosive (in modern terminology - high-explosive and high-explosive fragmentation) artillery shells designed to fire from mortars of all calibers (but not mortars!), Heavy howitzers and heavy guns, as well as naval bomb weapons (however, the latter went out of use in the XNUMXth century)
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Бомба
          1. Avior
            Avior April 11 2020 12: 03 New
            0
            I think the concept of a bomb is even broader.
            I remember that all sorts of disgruntled bombs were also thrown at the king.
            But the name of the bombardment appeared historically as one of the first names of the guns, not necessarily fired bombs, it was still the 14th century.
            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki//Бомбарда
            A bomb is another thing, it’s already a device for throwing bombs.
            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Бомбомёт_(полевой)
            But after the advent of airplanes, the term is applied to aviation, but the old concept is preserved in the Convention.
            hi
    2. Genry
      Genry April 11 2020 08: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: maykl8
      Air strikes and missile forces. Artillery fires

      An artillery raid (fire raid) is one of the types of modern artillery strike, when a gun quickly fires several shells (up to ten) from different angles and they almost simultaneously fall into the target zone.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 11 2020 09: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: Genry
        An artillery raid (fire raid) is one of the types of modern artillery strike, when a gun quickly fires several shells (up to ten) from different angles and they almost simultaneously fall into the target zone.

        No, it's called their MRSI (Multiple Rounds Simultaneous Impact)
        We have, with the hard hand of translators, Discovery - "Flurry of Fire".
        In the specialized literature, a more adequate term is "pseudo-volley"
      2. maykl8
        maykl8 April 11 2020 11: 53 New
        +1
        An artillery raid (fire raid) is one of the types of modern artillery strike, when a gun quickly fires several shells (up to ten) from different angles and they almost simultaneously fall into the target zone.

        There is a department in the Mikhailovsky Military Artillery Academy - “Department of Management rocket attacks и artillery fire". Do you think that the academy is not aware of the terms that they themselves come up with? repeat
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 11 2020 12: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: maykl8
          rocket attacks and artillery fire "

          Just for rockets - only hits
          And artillery has many other fire missions, often extended over time. For example, hours of exhausting fire can hardly be called an "artillery strike"
          1. maykl8
            maykl8 April 11 2020 18: 27 New
            0
            For example, hours of fire exhaustion is difficult to call an "artillery strike"

            There is no such fire. There is a disturbing fire - single shots at one target with an interval of 20-30 minutes to hamper the activities of the enemy. There is a methodical fire - this is fire on the object of attack (Platoon Support Point 6 Hectares). At least two batteries (12 guns) are involved. The first 2-4 shots are fired, and the remaining shots are fired by batteries at a pace providing at least one projectile per hectare every 10 seconds.
            A fire raid is conducted for at least 5 and no more than 20 minutes. If in 20 minutes the target amount of ammunition is not laid out on the Target, then the fire is transferred to another Target, and after 20 minutes back to the "unfinished" one. This is done by the fact that within 5 minutes the most effective defeat of the enemy's manpower is inflicted, and after 20 minutes everyone is already sitting in holes and the fire is ineffective.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 11 2020 18: 30 New
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              Quote: maykl8
              There is no such fire.

              "The objectives of shooting to kill may be: destruction, destruction, suppression, and exhaustion. "Article 2 of Part 1 of the Rules of Shooting and Fire Control
        2. Genry
          Genry April 11 2020 14: 43 New
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          Quote: maykl8
          Do you think that the academy is not aware of the terms that they themselves come up with?

          If you are so informed, then where are the quotes, links ... - do not be unfounded.
          And I want specifics, and not just your IMHO.
          1. maykl8
            maykl8 April 11 2020 18: 08 New
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            Yes please:
            Section "What is the structure of the university"
            https://zen.yandex.ru/media/vzapase_expert/mihailovskaia-voennaia-artilleriiskaia-akademiia-5dfbd5318d5b5f00ad329132 27-й пункт с верху.
            1. Genry
              Genry April 12 2020 08: 00 New
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              Quote: maykl8
              Section "What is the structure of the university"

              The answer is unanswered. As if a lawyer, is responding with a letter, with a blank sheet of paper.
              1. maykl8
                maykl8 April 12 2020 08: 28 New
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                The answer is unanswered. As if a lawyer, is responding with a letter, with a blank sheet of paper.

                Are you not an American spy? wassat
    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 11 2020 09: 22 New
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      Quote: maykl8
      Artillery fires on individual targets

      Everything is somewhat more complicated. Fire raid along with fire observation relate to the theme of the order of fire to kill
      1. maykl8
        maykl8 April 11 2020 12: 04 New
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        Everything is somewhat more complicated. Fire raid along with fire observation relate to the theme of the order of fire to kill

        Everything is just like that. But the end result is a fire raid. Fire observation is some kind of newfangled exotic.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 11 2020 12: 16 New
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          Quote: maykl8
          angry observation is some kind of newfangled exoticism.

          On the contrary.
          It's just that earlier they used somewhat different terms, more pretentious. Like "squalls of rapid fire" with "periods of methodical fire" in between
  5. antivirus
    antivirus April 11 2020 07: 42 New
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    to whom war and to whom mother is dear
    will begin and continue, will deepen sales of weapons, etc.
    Wise monkeys look from the side until they are fried
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 11 2020 07: 55 New
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    These are the ones who can "screw up" the neighbors with nuclear weapons! fool That the Indians, that the Pakistanis, verily, of the same yard of a dog, do not live an hour without a fight! !! fool fool
  7. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront April 11 2020 08: 25 New
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    The world has ceased to be afraid of wars, even nuclear ones. Hollywood taught what post-apocalypse is, who likes what, I choose "Mad Max"
  8. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 11 2020 10: 32 New
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    Conventional war between two nuclear powers.
    Without threats to "incinerate each other with atomic weapons."
    Which means there are brains on both sides! good
  9. Freedim
    Freedim April 11 2020 11: 09 New
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    When it comes to Indian gunners:
    1. bk0010
      bk0010 April 12 2020 20: 29 New
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      What a healthy howitzer!
  10. Old26
    Old26 April 11 2020 11: 28 New
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    Quote: Thrifty
    These are the ones who can "screw up" the neighbors with nuclear weapons! fool That the Indians, that the Pakistanis, verily, of the same yard of a dog, do not live an hour without a fight! !! fool fool

    Since the appearance of their nuclear weapons, there has been one war (Kargalskaya) between them and 8 or 9 border conflicts. And nothing, did not use nuclear weapons. Maybe because each of the parties was smart enough?
  11. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 April 11 2020 12: 42 New
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    It is doubtful that the Indian media used the terms "Jammu and Kashmir" or "Jammu and Kashmir State". The state was liquidated and divided into two union territories.
  12. amr
    amr April 11 2020 12: 52 New
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    2. Tell the pioneers about the "bloodless" "annexation" of the Crimea.

    Interesting? where is the blood? in Crimea?
  13. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog April 11 2020 14: 58 New
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    A beautifully withered warehouse. But damn the Indians and Pakistanis, the essence is one nation, but faith is different but the roots are the same ... The main thing is that the hand on the button does not flinch anyone ...
  14. maykl8
    maykl8 April 11 2020 19: 53 New
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    Quote: maykl8
    There is no such fire.

    "The objectives of shooting to kill may be: destruction, destruction, suppression, and exhaustion. "Article 2 of Part 1 of the Rules of Shooting and Fire Control

    Exhaustion lies in the moral and psychological impact on the enemy’s manpower harassing fire limited amount of artillery and ammunition for a specified time. We, a colleague, are not talking about shooting tasks. Yours faithfully!
  15. Protos
    Protos April 12 2020 23: 07 New
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    Quote: Observer2014
    Where the British visited and took control, the blood is still pouring. Burn them in hell.
    Not everywhere. hi It's awesome in the Crimea. There are wonderful weather, I dare to notice you. And so, in principle, yes. Rare fishes are rare. yes

    @ The brothers rushed ... already zaminusili !!!
    KAAIF laughing
    By the way, right now two military hospitals are building two universal hospitals! good