The United States for the first time agreed to reduce oil production in a deal format

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The United States for the first time agreed to reduce oil production in a deal format

Some parameters of the new deal have become known, which countries involved in oil production concluded in a video conference mode. If earlier the transaction was called OPEC +, now it is often called OPEC ++, since for the first time in stories such countries as, for example, the USA and Canada have actually joined the agreements to reduce oil production.

It is known that the agreement to reduce the production of "black gold" was signed by representatives of more than two dozen countries, including the Russian Federation.



The parameters of the new transaction are as follows: the agreement will be valid until May 2022; during May-June 2020, the decline in oil production will amount to 10 million barrels per day, until the end of 2020, production will be reduced by 8 million barrels per day, in 2021 the decline will be 6 million barrels per day.

Countries that were not originally part of OPEC + (and these are the United States, Canada, as well as, for example, Colombia and Argentina) will reduce production by 5 million barrels per day for the above period of validity of the agreement. The United States pledged to take a significant share of the reduction - about 2 million barrels.

It was noted that representatives of countries that approved the agreement will monitor the state of the oil market in the event that a certain adjustment in production volumes is required in this market.

Experts call the new agreement unprecedented, because before Washington never participated even in discussing the topic of a possible reduction in hydrocarbon production. However, control should play its role here. Who and how will control the fulfillment of the undertaken obligations is still a question.
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  1. -6
    April 11 2020 06: 18
    They have squandered so many coronavirus .... There is no one to consume!
    1. +28
      April 11 2020 06: 39
      Quote: Theodore
      They have squandered so many coronavirus .... There is no one to consume!

      You write as if those several thousand who died in the USA were the main consumers of oil out of more than 300 million people ...
      1. 0
        April 11 2020 07: 00
        OPEC 2+ agreements will not be implemented for a long time. This is shown by previous practice with both OPEC and OPEC +.

        There will again be mutual abuse and violation of quotas.
        1. +7
          April 11 2020 08: 36
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          OPEC 2+ agreements will not be implemented for a long time. This is shown by previous practice with both OPEC and OPEC +

          And can you find out who violated OPEC +?
        2. +2
          April 11 2020 09: 38
          There will again be mutual abuse and violation of quotas.
          Today, this practice is unlikely to pass, because all storage facilities are clogged. In the United States, ~ 95%, and the production of jet fuel - 60%, gasoline - 40-50 (?)%. In other countries, I think the picture is similar.
      2. -10
        April 11 2020 07: 55
        "Some", before the agreement, drastically increased oil production. And now they will just return to the initial indicators. Guess who is in the "span"?
        1. +7
          April 11 2020 08: 40
          Quote: knn54
          Guess who is in the "span"?

          We know, we know ... because "putin has sent", "everything is lost" and yes, "we will all die" ...
          You know, something tells me that just as all parties "lost" here, since they did not reach their initial goals, so they all "won", since prices will now creep up again and settle somewhere at the level of 60 bucks per barrel. For a long time? Time will tell. I can only say that all this "storm" will be remembered for a long time and they are unlikely to want to repeat it ...
          1. -15
            April 11 2020 09: 03
            Someone after a month went to the reduction proposed initially, though the whole month the budget did not get a denyuzhku ... And yes, HPS in action ...
            1. +16
              April 11 2020 09: 32
              Quote: smaug78
              Someone after a month went to the reduction proposed initially, though the whole month the budget did not get a denyuzhku ... And yes, HPS in action ...

              And who sat down at the negotiating table, although earlier said that this would not be done under any conditions, and agreed to establish a production threshold, and someone agreed to cut more than they wanted before ... Well, they are apparently from a very "good" life, not otherwise.
              The world began to remember what MUTUAL AGREEMENTS mean, not DICTATIVE. And this is good
          2. 0
            April 11 2020 09: 34
            Quote: svp67
            You know, something tells me that all sides have "lost" here,

            In fact, Russia is reducing from the current 11,2 million barrels to 8,47 million, losing 2,73 million barrels, Saudi Arabia - from 10,150 (actual production at the end of March) to the same 8,47, losing 1,68 million.
            1. +11
              April 11 2020 09: 52
              Quote: WIKI
              In fact, Russia is reducing from the current 11,2 million barrels to 8,47 million, losing 2,73 million barrels, Saudi Arabia - from 10,150 (actual production at the end of March) to the same 8,47, losing 1,68 million.

              Excuse me, but to what level did the same Saudi Arabia want to reduce earlier? Announce the numbers ... And why are you silent about the quotas of other countries that did NOT even think to go, not to cut back, but to reach an agreement on this issue?
              1. -1
                April 11 2020 09: 54
                Quote: svp67
                And why keep quiet about quotas of other countries

                Do you mean usa?
                1. +3
                  April 11 2020 09: 56
                  Quote: WIKI
                  Do you mean usa?

                  And their and other OPEC countries and all who ++
                  1. -6
                    April 11 2020 10: 01
                    I can’t say anything for the rest. Own production of the USA does not cover its own needs. They are in fact an importer of oil. What's the point of cutting back? https://tass.ru/ekonomika/7836185
                    1. +6
                      April 11 2020 10: 11
                      Quote: WIKI
                      . US own production does not cover own needs

                      And why did they start exporting it?
                      Quote: WIKI
                      Own production of the USA does not cover its own needs. They are in fact an importer of oil. What's the point of cutting back?

                      You will first understand this issue. The USA is now the LARGEST OIL PRODUCERS IN THE WORLD, but here comes the but .. What kind of oil. Light, from which it is excellent to produce gasolines, but for the manufacture of "heavy fractions" - diesel fuel, fuel oil, tar, OIL, a different oil is required - heavy. This is what the United States buys for itself.
                      1. -4
                        April 11 2020 10: 28
                        In the general balance, imports exceed exports by 2 times.
                      2. +2
                        April 11 2020 10: 35
                        Quote: WIKI
                        In the general balance, imports exceed exports by 2 times.

                        Something is hard to believe ...
                        2018 news ...
                        The export of oil and petroleum products from the United States last week exceeded imports for the first time since 1949, Bloomberg reported. From November 26 to November 30, the United States exported 211 thousand barrels per day more than it imported, according to statistics from the US Energy Information Administration (EIA). Thus, the United States became a net exporter of oil resources for the first time in almost 70 years.

                        According to an EIA report, the United States exported 3,2 million barrels of oil and 5,8 million barrels of oil per day last week. Over the same period, they imported 8,8 million barrels of oil daily. As a result, total exports (9 million barrels) exceeded imports.

                        I do not think that this ratio has changed so dramatically for today
                      3. 0
                        April 11 2020 10: 37
                        We are talking only about oil.
                      4. +3
                        April 11 2020 10: 38
                        Quote: WIKI
                        We are talking only about oil.

                        OK, March 2020
                        Against the backdrop of the unfolding coronavirus epidemic, the fact that, according to the results of the second week of March, American oil export for the first time in the history of statistical observations (since February 1991) exceeded the mark of 4 million barrels per day (b / s), reaching 4,4 million b / s. For comparison, in 2018, according to the US Department of Energy’s Energy Information Administration (EIA), the United States exported an average of 2 million b / s - almost three times less than Russia and almost four than Saudi Arabia (5,5 million and 7,4 million bps, according to BP estimates).
                      5. -3
                        April 11 2020 11: 02
                        Quote: svp67
                        2018 news.

                        Quote: svp67
                        according to the results of the last of the week

                        It’s good that not according to the results of what thread of the hour. The USA consumes 20 million barrels per day. And produce-13
                      6. +4
                        April 11 2020 11: 06
                        Quote: Liam
                        It’s good that not according to the results of what thread of the hour. The USA consumes 20 million barrels per day. And produce-13

                        And there is talk only about DELIVERY and only THEIR OIL.
                        And on the account of consumption and production, I have already expressed myself above, it is necessary to understand which oil is exported and which is imported. It is different for different purposes.
                      7. 0
                        April 11 2020 14: 17
                        Mostly from Canada!
                      8. 0
                        April 11 2020 14: 25
                        US EXTRACTS 13,2 Million.! More than Russia 11,5 Million.
          3. +3
            April 11 2020 11: 20
            We know, we know ... because "putin has sent", "everything is lost" and yes, "we will all die" ...
            З

            Well, we have to admit that by what is now known, this situation still looks more like a "victory"
            1. +2
              April 11 2020 11: 51
              Quote: alexmach
              Well, we have to admit that by what is now known, this situation still looks more like a "victory"

              Everyone remained with their own ... But what I see as a victory, is that ALL sat down and began to AGREE, and DICTATE the conditions. And we’ve agreed on something. Although it is clear to everyone that the result of these agreements is a compromise. And he rarely completely satisfied anyone.
              1. +2
                April 11 2020 14: 19
                Quote: svp67
                And he rarely completely satisfied anyone.

                In this case, it will satisfy everyone, since everyone will be in the black (even consumers) and quite large.
                But even the attraction of the USA and Canada was clearly not worth such a catastrophe, since this agreement would still not allow the barrel price to return to $ 60-65.
                1. 0
                  April 12 2020 01: 08
                  Russia's export opportunities are production minus domestic consumption. With a reduction in production to 8,47 million barrels, Russian exports will amount to 5 million barrels per day, compared to 8,15 million before the deal. OPEC + 2.0 reduces exports by a third. This, of course, is a purely calculated value, since in recent weeks demand for Russian oil has fallen much more than a third, and the volumes sold had to be stimulated with absolutely fantastic premiums.
                  Oil was budgeted at a price of $ 42, or $ 342 million per day. Now, at current prices (31,8 Urals grade as of April 10), the revenue ceiling is $ 160 million. Less than half. And this despite the fact that for the sold oil you still have to pay a substantial discount to the buyer - from 5 to 10 dollars and more. That is, real revenue will be somewhere around 120 million dollars a day. And this is almost three times less than what was budgeted. In fact, with such indicators, the country in the remaining 8 months will receive less than $ 54 billion, or 4,4 trillion rubles.
          4. +1
            April 11 2020 11: 35
            Quote: svp67
            so everyone "won", as prices will now creep up again and settle somewhere at the level of 60 bucks per barrel. For a long time? Time will tell.

            I looked in an interview, taking into account the economic crisis and the coronovirus, a decrease of 10 million is not enough. There will still be an excess of oil. So God forbid 40-50
            1. 0
              April 11 2020 11: 54
              Quote: Winnie76
              So God forbid 40-50

              China, unlike everyone else, has already emerged from the "epidemic" and is increasing production and it now finds itself in very good conditions, since the price of all energy carriers is minimal, when others start to exit, such prices will no longer exist, including because of transactions and due to consumption of China
          5. 0
            April 12 2020 08: 15
            Very doubtful. Rather, the price will remain at its current level and stop slipping below 20 bucks per barrel. $ 60 is currently not feasible.
        2. 0
          April 11 2020 08: 55
          There are absolutely dumb people sitting there. Not like you. They didn’t guess that someone could build up. And the date is October 2018, as a reference point for volumes, was randomly chosen. Eh. It was a pity you were not there. You would explain to them how to!
          1. -9
            April 11 2020 09: 16
            The USA, Great Britain, China and others "stocked up" with cheap oil at the "neck". The Yankees protected their "shale producers" for a year ahead. Let's see how prices will creep (perhaps for Sergei) to 60. And for the reliability of 2 years ago, although would the American data Andrey answer?
            1. 0
              April 11 2020 12: 24
              I apologize, did you contact me about reliable data?
          2. 0
            April 11 2020 10: 03
            It’s immediately obvious that you advised Sechin laughing Why didn’t you think about the budget?
          3. -3
            April 11 2020 10: 32
            Quote: A009
            There are absolutely dumb people sitting there. Not like you. They didn’t guess that someone could build up. And the date is October 2018, as a reference point for volumes, was randomly chosen. Eh. It was a pity you were not there. You would explain to them how to!

            Have you also come to the conclusion that the Kremlin’s thinking process is not very good?
            I will support your conclusions with examples (source Fontanka.ru):
            1) Russia removes 2,5 million barrels from its production volume. That is, we lose 23% of all its production.
            2) Saudi Arabia 2,5 million barrels ...
            And Saudi Arabia does not have the same production level as the Russian Federation. Not 11,3, but 9,8 million barrels per day. But the Saudis are counting from the Russian level, 11,3. That is, in fact, CAs are reduced by only one and a half million barrels per day.
            (Lesha's explanation: in January and February 2020, KSA produced approximately 9,7 mbs. In March, it already increased to 10,15 mbs. In fact, KSA reduces production by 13%)
            3) Source New News:
            Russian fields in the Arctic zone are significantly depleted and watered. Technological closure, even temporary, will "paraffinize" these fields, and printing them out again can be completely unprofitable. That is, it is possible to stop production, but it is doubtful to restore it. When your outside temperature is about zero, and below - permafrost, then this is significantly different from the Arabian sands and plus 25 the average annual temperature.
            4) An unknown author of this article on VO, to put it mildly, gives out wishful thinking
            The United States pledged to take a significant share of the reduction - about 2 million barrels.

            Because there is only a statement (source RBC): Head of the US Department of Energy predicted a decline in oil production by the end of the year...
            At the rate US Department of Energy, by the end of 2020, oil production will decline by 2 million barrels. per day, it is also possible a reduction of 3 million barrels.
            But there is nothing in the deal with OPEC about the US quota. it predictable, possible decline in production due to the situation in the global economy, but it is NOT a reduction obligation.

            5) Source Tsar Grad from 08.04.2020:
            The representative of the Ministry of Energy of Russia told TASS about a possible reduction in oil production 1,6 million barrels per day. It is 14% from the level of the first quarter of this year. Earlier, President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin saidwhat Russia will mine less only ifif other market participants agree to this. First of all, USA. laughing
            6) Source Kommersant:
            Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that in the OPEC + deal no losersfrom agreement both producers and consumers have won
            7) Yeah, of course
            both producers and consumers have won
            . But the question is which and whose? If (Source RBC):
            The government decided to ban the import of petroleum products into Russia, to prevent the supply of cheap foreign gasoline to the domestic market laughing
            8) And finally, in case someone cheats: I will introduce significant duties if they do not agree and prices remain at the current level, "Trump said at a briefing.
            And if anyone doubts what he will introduce, ask Rosneft.

            PS Trump became the main winner in the oil war. This is his fuel price within the country is now much lower than even in the Russian Federation. And the United States, being the largest oil importer, is not going to join the deal. No matter how the Kremlin puffs out their cheeks and puffs their legs, announcing "demands." To understand whether this will hit the Russian Federation hard (source Novye Izvestia):
            “A reduction of 1,8 - 2,0 million barrels per day means that a company like Lukoil, for example, will have to be closed altogether - it produces 1,6 million barrels per day.
            The ingenious plan of the multi-port, bend US shale companies. laughing laughing laughing
            PPS And you gentlemen, download, download the rake on. So funny to watch you. laughing
            1. 0
              April 11 2020 12: 27
              Really curious. only here is a question for you. do you read what you give an answer to? (they even brought a quote, but reading is not destiny, apparently?)
            2. +1
              April 11 2020 12: 28
              With all due respect, it is extremely difficult to discuss with stupid or inattentive people. Read my quote, more than half of your arguments will automatically be stupid.
              1. -4
                April 11 2020 12: 54
                Quote: A009
                With all due respect, it is extremely difficult to discuss with stupid or inattentive people. Read my quote, more than half of your arguments will automatically be stupid.

                Well, how about, of course I read. And I really like that even though you think the Kremlin giants are thoughts.
                Not like you.


                And your comment, in turn, is a comment-response to another comment from knn54 (Nikolai):
                "Some", before the agreement, drastically increased oil production. And now they will just return to the initial indicators. Guess who is in the "span"?

                I’m trying to understand, according to the chain of events, statements and results, where you saw this. Well, that I started my comment so
                You also came to the conclusion that with the thought process
                , so I just made fun of you. I hope not much offended hi.
                What about
                more than half of your arguments will automatically be stupid
                You just have to pick up this very machine, and also, point by point, indicating the sources, destroy them.

                PS Good luck to you hi .
                1. 0
                  April 11 2020 12: 57
                  Clear. Hand face. Read the protocol to get started. genius of thought.
                  1. -4
                    April 11 2020 13: 14
                    Quote: A009
                    Clear. Hand face. Read the protocol to get started. genius of thought.

                    What about your statement
                    more than half of your arguments will automatically be stupid.

                    also offer me, knitting your machine in your hands, to refute yourself? No, I'm lazy. Refute, and I'll see what, in turn, can be given as a counter-argument.
                    And so to discuss with you, at the level of
                    No thanks. I'm up to that level, not yet matured laughing
                    1. +1
                      April 11 2020 13: 26
                      And you are stubborn (persistent wanted to say, but here it is inappropriate)
                      Well, let's just see where the decline in production comes from? (I repeat, apparently without it in any way) from October 2018.
                      1) Russia removes 2,5 million barrels from its production volume. That is, we lose 23% of our production.
                      - production in 2018 (in general) -11,16 million barrels per day. a little busy. but in October you can see the data. there was an increase of about 150 thousand. may have forgotten.
                      2) Saudi Arabia 2,5 million barrels ...
                      And Saudi Arabia does not have the same production level as the Russian Federation. Not 11,3, but 9,8 million barrels per day. But the Saudis are counting from the Russian level, 11,3. That is, in fact, CAs are reduced by only one and a half million barrels per day.
                      (Lesha's explanation: in January and February 2020, KSA produced approximately 9,7 mbs. In March, it already increased to 10,15 mbs. In fact, KSA reduces production by 13%)
                      - here it is nonsense. bring the data of 20 years. why?
                      3) Source New News:
                      Russian fields in the Arctic zone are significantly depleted and watered. Technological closure, even temporary, will "paraffinize" these fields, and printing them out again can be completely unprofitable. That is, it is possible to stop production, but it is doubtful to restore it. When your outside temperature is about zero, and below - permafrost, then this is significantly different from the Arabian sands and plus 25 the average annual temperature.
                      -This is why? about closing and profitability. really do not want to discuss. but given that the giants work there. it’s easier than small shales in the USA. just inertia more. I hope you will not argue?
                      4) An unknown author of this article on VO, to put it mildly, gives out wishful thinking
                      The United States pledged to take a significant share of the reduction - about 2 million barrels.

                      Because there is only a statement (source RBC): The head of the US Department of Energy predicted a decrease in oil production by the end of the year ...
                      According to the US Department of Energy, by the end of 2020, oil production will decline by 2 million barrels. per day, it is also possible a reduction of 3 million barrels.
                      But there is nothing in the deal with OPEC about the US quota. This is a predictable, possible drop in production due to the situation in the global economy, but it is NOT an obligation to reduce.

                      About 4 points, I can’t judge. But here's a more complete quote from the Mr. whom you are referring to. https://ria.ru/20200409/1569816008.html
                      And according to the results of the meeting, it was only confirmed that they will remain in these positions. Trust them or not, not for me to judge. Such an agreement takes place. I hope you will not deny?

                      5) Source Tsar Grad from 08.04.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX:
                      The representative of the Ministry of Energy of Russia told TASS about a possible reduction in oil production by 1,6 million barrels per day. This is 14% of the level of the first quarter of this year. Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia will produce less only if other market participants agree to this. First of all, the USA. laughing
                      and what is the contradiction here? just as you say. only reduction a little more and from 18 years
                      6) Source Kommersant:
                      Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that there are no losers in the OPEC + deal, both producers and consumers benefited from the agreement
                      What is this for? for extras? What information does this statement have on the topic of discussion?
                      7) Yeah, of course
                      both producers and consumers have won
                      . But the question is which and whose? If (Source RBC):
                      last without any comments at all. your assumption as a 7 argument? (as well as 6 and so on) No, well, are you serious?
                      1. -1
                        April 11 2020 14: 05
                        Quote: A009
                        And you are stubborn (persistent wanted to say, but here it is inappropriate)
                        Well, let's just see where the decline in production comes from? (I repeat, apparently without it in any way) from October 2018.
                        1) Russia removes 2,5 million barrels from its production volume. That is, we lose 23% of our production.
                        - production in 2018 (in general) -11,16 million barrels per day. a little busy. but in October you can see the data. there was an increase of about 150 thousand. may have forgotten.
                        2) Saudi Arabia 2,5 million barrels ...
                        And Saudi Arabia does not have the same production level as the Russian Federation. Not 11,3, but 9,8 million barrels per day. But the Saudis are counting from the Russian level, 11,3. That is, in fact, CAs are reduced by only one and a half million barrels per day.
                        (Lesha's explanation: in January and February 2020, KSA produced approximately 9,7 mbs. In March, it already increased to 10,15 mbs. In fact, KSA reduces production by 13%)
                        - here it is nonsense. bring the data of 20 years. why?
                        3) Source New News:
                        Russian fields in the Arctic zone are significantly depleted and watered. Technological closure, even temporary, will "paraffinize" these fields, and printing them out again can be completely unprofitable. That is, it is possible to stop production, but it is doubtful to restore it. When your outside temperature is about zero, and below - permafrost, then this is significantly different from the Arabian sands and plus 25 the average annual temperature.
                        -This is why? about closing and profitability. really do not want to discuss. but given that the giants work there. it’s easier than small shales in the USA. just inertia more. I hope you will not argue?
                        4) An unknown author of this article on VO, to put it mildly, gives out wishful thinking
                        The United States pledged to take a significant share of the reduction - about 2 million barrels.

                        Because there is only a statement (source RBC): The head of the US Department of Energy predicted a decrease in oil production by the end of the year ...
                        According to the US Department of Energy, by the end of 2020, oil production will decline by 2 million barrels. per day, it is also possible a reduction of 3 million barrels.
                        But there is nothing in the deal with OPEC about the US quota. This is a predictable, possible drop in production due to the situation in the global economy, but it is NOT an obligation to reduce.

                        About 4 points, I can’t judge. But here's a more complete quote from the Mr. whom you are referring to. https://ria.ru/20200409/1569816008.html
                        And according to the results of the meeting, it was only confirmed that they will remain in these positions. Trust them or not, not for me to judge. Such an agreement takes place. I hope you will not deny?

                        5) Source Tsar Grad from 08.04.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX:
                        The representative of the Ministry of Energy of Russia told TASS about a possible reduction in oil production by 1,6 million barrels per day. This is 14% of the level of the first quarter of this year. Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia will produce less only if other market participants agree to this. First of all, the USA. laughing
                        and what is the contradiction here? just as you say. only reduction a little more and from 18 years
                        6) Source Kommersant:
                        Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that there are no losers in the OPEC + deal, both producers and consumers benefited from the agreement
                        What is this for? for extras? What information does this statement have on the topic of discussion?
                        7) Yeah, of course
                        both producers and consumers have won
                        . But the question is which and whose? If (Source RBC):
                        last without any comments at all. your assumption as a 7 argument? (as well as 6 and so on) No, well, are you serious?

                        Well, really, what's the point of discussing with you?
                        You have made at least some attempt to substantiate the refutation of only points 1 and 2. Then you decided to "answer" the questions with questions. True, in the case of paragraphs 1 and 2, without justifying and without indicating the source why this year is taken as a basis.
                        And besides, all this does not refute current situation. Namely: the Russian Federation is decreasing from the current 23%, and KSA - 13%, almost half as much. We already live today, and not in 2018. In 2018, the situation in the economies was completely different. And today, everyone is fighting for the survival of their own economies, and possibly the preservation of states.
                        You at least take as a basis, from the current figures it will turn out that way. And yes, KSA, unlike the Russian Federation, was able to increase production.
                        The rest are not even trying to understand the meaning. Although it was specifically highlighted in the text what exactly the Kremlin demanded and what it received as a result. Where is the Kremlin’s demand now?
                        if other market participants agree to this. First of all, the USA.

                        And even from the text that you brought the link, it is written in black and white, quote RIA Novosti:
                        On CNBC, Bruyetta was asked if the US could make its own cuts in addition to OPEC + cuts. "The question is not worth it"- answered Bruyette. According to him, American manufacturers are now selling 55-60% of what they were a year ago.
                        "The reduction in demand has led to a reduction in US production by about 2 million barrels per day until the end of 2020," the minister said.
                        Earlier, US President Donald Trump made similar statements - according to him, the United States has already de facto reduced oil production.


                        Well, the Russian Federation now sells less, and now signed upThat should produce less.
                        You write:
                        And according to the results of the meeting, it was only confirmed that they will remain in these positions.

                        Where, in which document is it fixed or confirmed? Who is the agreement with? Where to read about such an arrangement?
                        Or just because you decided so? Well, here you are very similar to the Kremlin ones, they are also inclined to give their Wishlist for reality.

                        PS As expected, the refutation boiled down mainly to the formulation of counter issues. But questions never refuted anything.
                        Of course you have the right to remain unconvinced
                        Eh. It was a pity you were not there. You would explain to them how to!

                        But for now, this situation with today's results of the OPEC + agreement just shows how it was NOT necessary to do in the month of March. Then the conditions proposed by the Russian Federation were milder.
                        Well, the fact that you like the situation and you protect it, so please, a matter of taste:
                      2. +2
                        April 11 2020 14: 09
                        Let's separately on the theses. you have seven of them. facts and arguments, agreed?)
                        right here. we’ll start from the first and take it all in turn. and then you can even quote all Russian films, I do not mind. very worthwhile!)
                    2. +2
                      April 11 2020 13: 29
                      And about "he is not quite smart", I can not judge, from the outside it is more visible. It may well be so. I hope at least you are smarter. Good health to you)
                    3. +2
                      April 11 2020 13: 32
                      Now I'm annoying. let's continue thesis. Without opus on five pages. Thesis arguments, arguments, counter-arguments. rather than paint. it’s easier to come to consensus and understanding
      3. +6
        April 11 2020 07: 57
        Quote: Volodin
        Quote: Theodore
        They have squandered so many coronavirus .... There is no one to consume!

        You write as if those several thousand who died in the USA were the main consumers of oil out of more than 300 million people ...

        A few thousand dead made the remaining 300 million lock themselves in their homes, rather than ride around the country.
      4. -12
        April 11 2020 09: 48
        Quote: Volodin
        Quote: Theodore
        They have squandered so many coronavirus .... There is no one to consume!

        You write as if those several thousand who died in the USA were the main consumers of oil out of more than 300 million people ...

        Yes good
        I'd like to add. And where are the "cats" gone? laughingAren't they "meowing" a month and a half ago that this is Putin's cunning plan? laughing
      5. +1
        April 11 2020 12: 50
        Quote: Volodin
        You write as if those several thousand who died in the USA were the main consumers of oil out of more than 300 million people ...

        =========
        I think it was just unsuccessful joke "Fedya Lesorubova. request
    2. +8
      April 11 2020 07: 05
      So all over the world, demand fell, industry stopped, ozone holes began to slowly drag out)
      1. +2
        April 11 2020 07: 51
        ... and a second layer of ozone is formed,
        from lack of emissions, trouble again
        1. +2
          April 11 2020 08: 11
          Nature knows that this was not for long, you can’t deceive her)
    3. -3
      April 11 2020 07: 57
      I, now, as if from a futuristic-philosophical point of view, looked at all this fuss - the old Earth looks at all human fuss with squandering its bowels and smirks - if she closes the faucet, specifically, the amba to all the little people! That there is a coronavirus - one tremush in 2004 washed away about 300 people at once in the sea ... The powerful of this world decide something there! They decide while someone allows them to decide ... laughing
    4. -1
      April 11 2020 08: 07
      Paper can stand it! The United States will spit on all obligations, as soon as at least a drop, but the price of oil will rise!
      1. -8
        April 11 2020 08: 34
        The US has not taken any restrictions. In gives wishful thinking.
    5. -3
      April 11 2020 09: 12
      Quote: Theodore
      They have squandered so many coronavirus .... There is no one to consume!

      Their oil industry can overturn and pull equipment manufacturers, metallurgists, miners, and most importantly, that will catch the financial sector, this will cause a global dollar crisis.
    6. +7
      April 11 2020 09: 40
      trifle, but nice .. bent amers)
      1. +2
        April 11 2020 10: 53
        Houston, 09.04.2020/1/1, price per XNUMX gallon of gasoline XNUMX dollar.
  2. 0
    April 11 2020 06: 25
    Washington agrees to reduce oil production - so that oil goes up? very curious, unexpected step .....
    1. -1
      April 11 2020 07: 04
      Interestingly, for a long enough Americans to comply with this treaty ???
      1. +2
        April 11 2020 11: 08
        Quote: marchcat
        Interestingly, for a long enough Americans to comply with this treaty ???

        Not enough for anything. Because The United States did not sign anything.
        The author issued a forecast for a decline in production in the United States, due to the economic downturn, for participating in the agreement. Therefore, it may fall, or maybe not. Duties and sanctions, in which case they will be regulated.
    2. +2
      April 11 2020 07: 08
      In general, they wanted this burden to fall on the shoulders of Russia and Saudi Arabia, but there it was)
      1. +1
        April 11 2020 09: 45
        Quote: Prjanik
        In general, they wanted this burden to fall on the shoulders of Russia and Saudi Arabia, but there it was)

        "US Energy Secretary Dan Bruyette said on April 9 that it does not have mechanisms for coordinated production cuts, which will decline in any case under pressure from low prices and in 2020 will fall by 1,7 million b / d." This is without any supposed obligations.
        1. +1
          April 11 2020 10: 14
          I will copy your post to you too
          And who then forces to reduce production, the invisible hand of the market?)
          Wasn't Trump threatening not to cut back? Like these are the problems of the OPEC countries, and the United States does not concern? Do not believe me - read it)
          https://www.rbc.ru/business/11/04/2020/5e8f197d9a79472db6950881
          1. +3
            April 11 2020 10: 21
            Quote: Prjanik
            But who then forces to reduce production, the invisible hand of the market?

            If you produce some kind of product, and the price has fallen below cost. You naturally reduce the pr-in, so as not to work at a loss.
            1. +1
              April 11 2020 10: 41
              Do you still remember what led to the fall in prices? Falling demand for oil, Russia and Saudi Arabia abandoned the trusteeship deal, arguing that they do not agree to bear all the costs, and that there are oil-exporting countries that are not included in trusteeship or trusteeship +, like the United States, which also did not interfere take on such costs. And for clarity, they staged this "war", dropping prices even more. What did Trump say? - negotiate yourself, the sheriff does not care about your problems, we will not cut production.
              But as a result, it came to what it came to - 6 countries, led by the United States, which are not part of the guardianship, are cutting production, as expected. It is more convenient for you to think that this is not a contract, but an invisible hand of the market, think so) However, there are specific quotas for reductions for all participants, and they will be executed. And on the Internet there is a cloud of information agencies, where all this is described)
              1. -3
                April 11 2020 10: 47
                Quote: Prjanik
                Russia and Saudi Arabia refused the custody transaction, citing the fact that they do not agree to bear all the costs, and that there are oil exporting countries that are not part of the custody or custody +, like the United States, which also did not interfere with such costs .

                I'm starting to repeat myself. In the USA, the import-export balance of oil is biased towards import by 2 times. The production of our own oil does not cover domestic needs. https://tass.ru/ekonomika/7836185
                1. +2
                  April 11 2020 11: 24
                  Only the USA has already become a net exporter since last year, with production of 12,8 million bpd, according to the EIA, and this is not counting the coronavirus decline in demand. And for some reason, all sorts of custody had to take out all this, without the participation of Uncle Sam.
    3. 0
      April 11 2020 07: 53
      2 million US - this is the number of bankruptcies of shale companies, the US has not reduced "primary" production. the most cunning and strong. waiting for a rise in prices and again throw all worries on Salman and GDP
      1. +2
        April 11 2020 08: 29
        If they break the deal, the rest will do the same, and the price of oil will collapse again. Voluntarily, no one wants to cut, but circumstances force:
        Thus, oil giants such as ExxonMobil, Chevron and Continental Resources announced a reduction in capital costs by 20-30% and a reduction in shale production in the United States. “The American oil industry is starting to cuts that are being requested by Saudi Arabia, Russia and other OPEC + countries. Of course, this is presented under the guise of reductions due to the effect of low prices on capital expenditures. But, obviously, this will be enough for OPEC +, ”Javier Blas, Bloomberg lead energy correspondent, wrote on Twitter
        1. +3
          April 11 2020 09: 23
          if you wrote to me personally, it is in vain. Trump and everyone in the US for the "free market" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as soon as ----- they will come out and trample at 10-12 - at least 15 million bar / day .-- "To hell with all the totalitarian in Russia and the KSA", they will drag Veniswell. anything - PROFIT ABOVE ALL. to win the competition is sacred.
          1. +1
            April 11 2020 09: 37
            Who would doubt their account, therefore it is necessary to create such force majeure circumstances that it would be more expensive to go against it.
      2. -2
        April 11 2020 09: 50
        Quote: antivirus
        The United States has not reduced its "primary" production.

        And what is the point for them to reduce production if the country is an importer of oil. What would become even more dependent on imports? Their own production does not cover their own needs. https://tass.ru/ekonomika/7836185
    4. +4
      April 11 2020 08: 30
      What makes you think that oil will rise in price? The vaults are full and consumption has fallen.
  3. +5
    April 11 2020 06: 26
    for the first time in history such countries as, for example, the USA and Canada joined the agreements on reduction of oil production
    It is obvious that the crouch was sensitive if they agreed to participate in the agreements. The United States even suddenly forgot about its adamant NO. The house may not be as beautiful as it is seen from the facade.
    1. +4
      April 11 2020 06: 43
      They did not agree. This is just a hoax.
      1. -3
        April 11 2020 07: 09
        The reality is a little different)
      2. +1
        April 11 2020 07: 59
        Quote: Odyssey
        They did not agree. This is just a hoax.

        Of course they did not agree, but the situation forced. I wonder who created this environment? AND...
  4. +1
    April 11 2020 06: 34
    Consent is a product of non-resistance of the parties.

    So said one literary hero.
    Or in another way, those agreements that all parties are ready to fulfill are good and efficient. Given the potential of the United States to disrupt international agreements, it is doubtful that this deal will work for a long time.
    1. 0
      April 11 2020 06: 43
      How are the US going to limit the mass of small oil production campaigns? As soon as the price of oil goes up, they will immediately increase (resume) production. Fortunately, this is easy enough to do with shales.
    2. -5
      April 11 2020 06: 51
      Quote: Polymer
      Given the potential of the United States to disrupt international agreements, it is doubtful that this deal will work for a long time.

      Lord, don’t you go crazy. The USA does not participate in the transaction!
      1. +3
        April 11 2020 07: 42
        The USA does not participate in the transaction!
        US oil production will be reduced by 1,8 million barrels in 2020. This is 18% of the volume of reductions that the OPEC + countries are now discussing. The US Department of Energy's Information Directorate has published an update to its forecast for 2020.
        https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/04/08/stalo-izvestno-naskolko-sokratyat-dobychu-nefti-v-ssha
        1. 0
          April 11 2020 10: 14
          Quote: Prjanik
          US oil production will be reduced by 1,8 million barrels in 2020.

          "Energy Minister Dan Bruyette said on April 9 that it does not have mechanisms for a coordinated reduction in production, which will decline in any case under pressure from low prices and in 2020 will fall by 1,7 million bpd." https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4318002?from=doc_vrez
          1. 0
            April 11 2020 10: 19
            I answered you above, you can not write under each message)
        2. +4
          April 11 2020 12: 49
          Quote: Prjanik
          US oil production will be reduced by 1,8 million barrels in 2020. This is 18% of the volume of reductions that the OPEC + countries are now discussing. Information management

          Lord, do you really seriously understand the difference between a decrease in production and participation in an OPEC transaction?
          If you do not understand, then why do you, in general, write on the adult forum?
          If you understand, then I repeat to you have a conscience . The United States is not involved in the OPEC + deal.
          1. +4
            April 11 2020 14: 49
            Quote: Odyssey
            The United States is not involved in the OPEC + deal.

            Then I did not understand why this fuss was started by Russia?
            And why is Novak not yet in the basements of the Lubyanka (yesterday they showed it on TV)? For economic sabotage before, it was strictly asked there. After all, Putin needs to make someone a "scapegoat" - so Novak is the first candidate. (otherwise all sorts of rumors will go ...)
      2. +5
        April 11 2020 08: 06
        Quote: Odyssey
        Quote: Polymer
        Given the potential of the United States to disrupt international agreements, it is doubtful that this deal will work for a long time.

        Lord, don’t you go crazy. The USA does not participate in the transaction!

        Five stages of making the inevitable:
        1 Denial
        2 anger
        3 Trading
        4 Depression
        5 Acceptance.
        In fact, the United States has already reduced production by 600 thousand barrels.
        1. +2
          April 11 2020 12: 21
          Quote: Nick
          Five stages of making the inevitable:
          1 Denial
          2 anger
          3 Trading
          4 Depression
          5 Acceptance.
          In fact, the United States has already reduced production by 600 thousand barrels.

          Citizen, you tell yourself this nonsense. Once again for the most, sorry for the truth, stupid- US does not engage in any transactions .
  5. +4
    April 11 2020 06: 48
    Dear comrades, I understand everything, but you cannot lie.
    USA and Canada are not involved in the transaction !!!
    23 states took part in the deal, ten of them - OPEC countries. There are also ten states not included in this association in the transaction. Three countries in OPEC, Iran, Libya and Venezuela, are still exempted from cuts in production due to political problems.
    10 countries not from OPEC - Russia, Mexico, Kazakhstan, Oman, Azeibardzhan, Malaysia, Bahrain, Sudan, South Sudan, Bahrain.
    Regarding the United States, "According to Peskov, the Kremlin is convinced that the document will have a very positive impact on the global energy market. He added that the United States has anti-cartel legislation that does not allow Americans to directly participate in such agreements."
    These are the words of a spokesperson. Russian President
    1. +5
      April 11 2020 07: 01
      https://www.rbc.ru/business/11/04/2020/5e8f197d9a79472db6950881
      https://vz.ru//economy/2020/4/10/1033705.html
      What does it mean that they don’t participate, if they participate) And no anti-cartel legislation has prevented Trump from merging everything)
      1. +4
        April 11 2020 12: 17
        Quote: Prjanik
        https://www.rbc.ru/business/11/04/2020/5e8f197d9a79472db6950881
        https://vz.ru//economy/2020/4/10/1033705.html
        What do you mean do not participate, if they participate)

        Citizen, well, have a conscience! Do you yourself read your links? Once again - USA not involved in the transaction .
        According to your link, "A total of 23 countries are involved in the transaction, Novak said"
        "The US itself - the world's largest oil producer - was not part of the OPEC + agreement."
        1. 0
          April 11 2020 16: 57
          And somewhere in the article, or does it say to me that the United States is in OPEC +?
          Already discussed about this with the comrades above:
          Officially, the USA, Canada, Norway, Colombia, Brazil and Argentina are not members of OPEC + and are not involved in the OPEC + transaction. Therefore, this new agreement is called OPEC ++ unofficially, and specific limits for reducing oil production by new participants are indicated.
          The accession of six oil exporting countries to this deal, which so far have never participated in regulating the oil market together with OPEC, was revolutionary. Canada, the United States, Norway, Colombia, Brazil and Argentina should reduce production by 5 million barrels per day. This happened for the first time in history.
          Without which the deal would not have taken place and for what Russia and the Saudis arranged it all.
          For comparison: in the framework of the previous OPEC + deal, we were talking about reducing oil production by just 1,8 million barrels per day by all members of the organization, coupled with Russia (formally not a member). Now it is expected to reduce production by a total of 15 million barrels per day. The 22 OPEC + exporters participating in the previous deal are now joined by six more players. https://vz.ru//economy/2020/4/10/1033705.html
          The main minus is that for six oil exporters that are not members of OPEC +, this agreement is not legally binding. And if they break their promises, then the whole deal as a whole will fly to tartarars. If these six countries begin to increase production, and such a temptation arises when oil prices rise, then OPEC + members may refuse to comply with the agreement. This is the fragility of such a unique agreement of the oil exporting countries.
    2. +3
      April 11 2020 07: 05
      https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/492262-trump-says-us-will-cut-oil-production-to-secure-global-deal
  6. 0
    April 11 2020 07: 01
    Believe it ??? They also have a president who said he did not "remember" five minutes ago.
  7. -1
    April 11 2020 07: 03
    So the so-called "oil war between Russia and Saudi Arabia" ended with the victory of both Putin and Salman, as many assumed)
  8. +5
    April 11 2020 07: 22
    What are the comments about? Oil storages are almost full. If we continue to extract oil in the previous volumes, then soon oil production will have to be stopped. Everywhere. So this is not negotiable, just an admission that nowhere to go. Or pump oil for a while, and then canned well, which is associated with high costs. Or swing slowly in anticipation of rising demand.
  9. -5
    April 11 2020 08: 17
    The next move of the insane trump is to first agree and then withdraw from the agreement.
    1. +2
      April 11 2020 08: 40
      Quote: Yuri Zubashkov-2
      and then withdraw from the agreement

      They will have nothing to come up with, at the price level that the agreement provides, the American shales and the shelf are dying, in general, due to the already dead, there is an American reduction. To save Trump, at least Texas and Oklahoma, - the elections are on the way.
  10. +2
    April 11 2020 08: 42
    The United States pledged to take a significant share of the reduction - about 2 million barrels.

    Somehow on the rest of the resources and Peskov said that the United States has an internal legislative ban on this kind of participation in restrictions. So the United States is not limited in any way. And to make it quite obvious that the Russian Federation is a loser, you need to look at what initial volumes are going to limit. You can minus ... But lousy Mexico managed to show its teeth ... And ours "took it under the cap."
    1. -1
      April 11 2020 09: 05
      It seems like you and cognitive dissonance ..
      The accession of six oil exporting countries to this deal, which so far have never participated in regulating the oil market together with OPEC, was revolutionary. Canada, the United States, Norway, Colombia, Brazil and Argentina should reduce production by 5 million barrels per day. This happened for the first time in history.
      But lousy Mexico managed to show her teeth ...
      Would those teeth be ..
      Trump explained that Mexico will reduce oil production "by 100 thousand barrels", that is, "by 250-300 thousand barrels is not enough." The United States will "close this difference." According to him, Mexico will “reimburse” it when it can.
      1. +5
        April 11 2020 10: 04
        It seems like you and cognitive dissonance ..

        Yes, there is a place to be like that. I did not expect such fake news from Military Review. I think it’s time to get to the prosecutor’s office with a statement on Military Review so that it won’t be so recorded in the victories.
        1. 0
          April 11 2020 10: 56
          I think it’s time to get to the prosecutor’s office with a statement on Military Review so that it won’t be so recorded in the victories.
          Do you want to immediately distribute a dozen links to news agencies with the same news? So you don’t go back and forth a hundred times
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      1. 0
        April 11 2020 10: 06
        Yes, lousy Mexico has all the oil industry in America, and without permission it cannot cut anything,

        However, Mexico spat on all this bunch and left without fitting. But the Russian Federation bent and we ran to execute.
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          1. -1
            April 11 2020 16: 25
            Are you by any chance a horse?

            You will poke your wife. fool Riders can and love
            Riders are very fond of a small dime, licked hegemon ass lick,

            I don’t know, but you probably know better. And what do morons love to do other things with our helmsman?
            Trump will not save any of the miners except Exxon. And leaving some companies from the market immediately leads to others taking their places. Faster oil industry in the Russian Federation will die than the end of new companies in the United States. And shales are not lost.
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      2. 0
        April 11 2020 11: 31
        In my opinion, their government sector in the oil industry dominates. Although, maybe I have outdated information.
  11. +1
    April 11 2020 08: 48
    Circumstances, the world conjuncture develops in such a way that the "big uncles" would better come to an agreement than butting and getting into trouble all at once.
    The world economy / interdependence, it is like that, can break all horns.
    In general, this is to be expected.
    Although, we will see how it turns out.
  12. +3
    April 11 2020 09: 06
    The article is one big lie. USA - cut production by 250 thousand barrels. Topvar lies worse than liberals.
  13. -2
    April 11 2020 09: 08
    Well what a laudable Donald! The war of nerves and the first surrendered to the United States ...
  14. +4
    April 11 2020 09: 13
    Refuse to reduce by 0.4m at high prices and agree to 2.5m at low - only won, yeah.
    Controlling the reduction will, say and do not succeed.
  15. +1
    April 11 2020 09: 37
    The United States, Canada, and Brazil made no commitments.
    The US Secretary of Energy said that US production has already fallen by 600 thousand barrels per day. And by the end of the year, a reduction in production of 2 million barrels is possible.
    This is not an obligation. This is the market.
    In 2015, US oil production also fell.
    The United States did not limit itself in the OPEC + agreement and did not participate in it.
    Trump simply called Putin and the Saudi prince and made them agree.
  16. AB
    -1
    April 11 2020 09: 47
    The United States for the first time agreed to reduce oil production

    Yeah, that's what they believed in it. The whole reduction is due to the ruined shale, who, without a deal, have already died themselves. Trump will not be cut, the elections are on the way ...
    1. 0
      April 11 2020 11: 34
      More U.S. voters are associated with traditional oil production, especially in key, large states. It’s just for them. Small companies will suffer.
  17. +6
    April 11 2020 10: 16
    Of course there are no references to tg that canada and the states put trustees in the deal + will not! For in the preliminary contract in the transaction custody. Neither the states nor Canada are near! For Argentina and Colombia, somehow side-by-side by the author, like a horse neighing
    (https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/el_murid/16552936/1603267/1603267_original.jpg) here is a table of who agreed to what. Of course, no 2 million barrels of downsizing from the states are observed.
    An article in a series of whitewashing the great geostrategists who were offended by the proposal to reduce 0.5 million and slam the door on the nose of the Saudis. And then agree on a multiple reduction of 2.5 million barrels. And those who managed to speak Peskov, we did not lose.
    That's about it and cover up shame and shame.
  18. +2
    April 11 2020 10: 35
    Under preliminary agreements, OPEC + and non-OPEC countries are cutting daily production by 10 million barrels, while Saudi Arabia and Russia are cutting equally by 2,5 million barrels. per day. The United States did not promise anything to anyone. I have never met information that the United States is cutting something there. Well, if we take the average production for the first quarter of 2020, then Russia is reducing most of all, in the region of 2,8 million barrels. Arabia by 1,3 million barrels. per day.
    This is similar to the crushing defeat in the oil war of Russia.
    1. -1
      April 11 2020 15: 14
      Quote: Maas
      then Russia is reducing most of all, in the region of 2,8 million bar. Arabia by 1,3 million bar

      here it’s a rather strange thing
      The SA shouted loudly that it would increase production quickly and by a lot, but in fact reduced it from 11 to 10.15, but Russia did not shout anything, but simply increased from 11 to 11.35.
  19. -2
    April 11 2020 11: 33
    Everything is old as the world, money is scolded, money will die, and vice versa.
  20. 0
    April 11 2020 12: 33
    Quote: dgonni
    Of course, there will be no references to the fact that Canada and the states entered into a custody deal! For in the preliminary contract in the transaction custody. Neither the states nor Canada are near! For Argentina and Colombia, somehow side-by-side by the author, like a horse neighing
    (https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/el_murid/16552936/1603267/1603267_original.jpg) here is a table of who agreed to what. Of course, no 2 million barrels of decline from the states are observed.
    An article in a series of whitewashing the great geostrategists who were offended by the proposal to reduce 0.5 million and slam the door on the nose of the Saudis. And then agree to a multiple reduction of 2.5 million barrels. And those who managed to speak Peskov, we did not lose.
    That's about it and the article to cover up shame and shame.
  21. 0
    April 11 2020 19: 00
    The United States pledged to take a significant share of the reduction - about 2 million barrels.


    Well, at once, everyone would have less problems.