The United States considers the oil war with Saudi Arabia a big mistake for Russia

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Undoubtedly, in recent years, Russia has significantly strengthened its influence in the Middle East region, having made tremendous efforts for this. Now she is rapidly losing her position, having entered into a tough confrontation with Saudi Arabia.

This is stated by Stephen Cook in an article published in the American publication Foreign Policy.



And although, as the author believes, the credibility of Russia in the Middle East after the termination of the OPEC + treaty has significantly weakened, in the region it is considered a more constructive player than the United States.

According to Stephen Cook, in the eyes of the leaders of the Middle East, Moscow looks in a better light than Washington:

Middle East leaders are indeed looking more favorably at the expansion of Russian power. Since Moscow dumped the ideological baggage of Soviet communism, and America looks more and more exhausted, helpless and stupid, regional players see in Russia, if not an alternative to Washington, then at least a player not an example of a more constructive one.

Stephen Cook claims that, having come into conflict with Saudi Arabia, Moscow has clearly overestimated its strength. And now she is trying to cope with the troubles in which she has drawn herself into. He believes that there will be no winners in this battle, everyone will lose.

However, China can win in the Russian-Saudi conflict. Cheap oil will be an excellent tool for him to restore the economy after overcoming the peak of the coronavirus epidemic.

It was previously noted that the oil crisis could play into the hands of India as well.
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    1. KAV
      +14
      April 10 2020 18: 48
      Stephen Cook claims that, having come into conflict with Saudi Arabia, Moscow has clearly overestimated its strength. And now she is trying to cope with the troubles in which she has drawn herself into. He believes that there will be no winners in this battle, everyone will lose.
      Yes, of course. And the USA has absolutely nothing to do with it? Are they just standing by and watching? No matter how. They would be better at doing their own business and would not pop their nose where it should not.
      If this were really a mistake of Russia, then the United States would now silently rub hands and watch, and would not feed from each media resource.
      But in fact, what happens is that they are trying to convince us that this is our mistake. Shish to you all!
      1. -23
        April 10 2020 19: 26
        Russia is ready to cut production by 2 million and Saudi Arabia. USA to win
        1. +5
          April 10 2020 19: 49
          Quote: Kronos
          USA to win

          why?
          1. KAV
            -3
            April 10 2020 20: 09
            Quote: Barmaleyka
            Quote: Kronos
            USA to win

            why?

            Apparently, only with the convictions of the commentator. Where else can the USA win - only science fiction writers can describe.
            1. -1
              April 10 2020 20: 14
              Quote: KAV
              Apparently, only with the convictions of the commentator.

              If the enemies scold you, then you are doing everything right ... wassat
              1. +7
                April 11 2020 01: 19
                I agree. Based on this logic, Israel is doing everything right in Syria, Ukraine is doing everything right in the east, the United States is doing everything right in Venezuela. Logic, *****, just fire - no digging.
                Quote: Mountain Shooter

                If the enemies scold you, then you are doing everything right ... wassat
                1. -5
                  April 11 2020 08: 19
                  The logic is absolutely correct.
                  If enemies scold you, then you are doing the right thing.
                  BUT!
                  If friends scold you - think about it.
                  1. 0
                    April 11 2020 09: 52
                    If you pay attention to all phrases:
                    U.S. believes

                    and to respond to the statements of all "experts" on the content, there will be no time to live.
                    Doctors give psychiatrists talk to their patients and nod to them, and they do their job.
                    So we need
                  2. +3
                    April 11 2020 19: 25
                    Quote: Sonmaster
                    If friends scold you - think about it.

                    there are no friends in politics, there are disguised enemies
                  3. 0
                    April 12 2020 08: 28
                    And who is our boy? I mean - who are our friends there?
              2. 0
                April 12 2020 07: 55
                Yes, this is a proven theorem.
          2. +2
            April 10 2020 21: 00
            They do not reduce production, they say there are no such mechanisms
            1. KAV
              +5
              April 10 2020 22: 04
              Quote: Evil543
              They do not reduce production, they say there are no such mechanisms

              Simply, they poorly searched for these mechanisms. Therefore, I had to look for other countries.
              1. Aag
                +1
                April 10 2020 23: 49
                Rather, and did not look ....
        2. 0
          April 10 2020 20: 12
          1. From what "stela reference book" such data?
          2. If you understand what you are reading, you should have understood that there is NOTHING DECIDED ANYTHING anymore - Mexico got into a mess and the final decision is postponed until May 1.
          1. +6
            April 11 2020 06: 18
            Everything has already been decided. Russia, thanks to the bold and decisive Mnogohodovochnik, has achieved what she strove for many years. The low oil price and a sharp decrease in production volumes. One deft door hit at the OPEC + session, and voila! Two problems that have bothered us so much are eliminated. And it is especially pleasant that even Trump was forced to deal with oil. Rather, at its cost. Russia forced the United States, bent the Saudis, victory after victory in Syria. Pechenegs and Polovtsy overpowered, it remains only a little strenuous effort to survive until 2050.
            The dollar will collapse, America will go bankrupt, the Saudis will run out of oil, and the Chinese will eat all the bats and dogs and die of starvation. We will stay. So win!
        3. +1
          April 10 2020 20: 34
          Quote: Kronos
          Russia is ready to cut production by 2 million and Saudi Arabia. USA to win

          Where is the droushka?
          1. +2
            April 10 2020 21: 18
            It is reported that the OPEC + oil deal has almost been reached.

            1. The Russian Federation and Saudi Arabia will reduce production to 8,5 million barrels in essence. The remaining countries will reduce production to the level of autumn 2018. Russia's decline will be approximately 2 million barrels per day from 10,4 to 8,5 https://www.rbc.ru/economics/09/04/2020/5e8f7a469a79475b57d90d1f.

            2. The United States will reduce its production by 2-3 million barrels per day by the end of 2020 - http://www.profinance.ru/news/2020/04/10/bx99-ssha-dobycha-nefti-v- ssha-upadet-na-2-mln-bsk-kontsu-goda-vozmozhno-na-3-mln-b.html
            (Collapse)

            3. Mexico, which broke the longest, also agreed to reduce production by 100 thousand barrels in exchange for the US to further reduce production by 250 thousand barrels.
        4. -10
          April 10 2020 20: 40
          Quote: Kronos
          Russia is ready to cut production by 2 million and Saudi Arabia. USA to win

          They are absolutely right. Putin is the most mediocre, cheaply lost. The calculation was based not on analytical calculations, but on an adventurous scenario. Maybe a ride. But not a ride. Attempts to slander the Saudis failed. They themselves made a mockery of the whole world. As happened more than once. Especially fun the world laughed when, in the terminology of the regulars of VO, Svetelysho-Darkest during his last visit to Macron, walked into the toilet accompanied by 6! the guards. Which certainly testified to the good and proper work of the FSO and the extraordinary courage of our national everything. The corresponding video struck the French posted on the network. Learn, geyropa, this is not for you to have fun in pairs!
          1. 0
            April 10 2020 20: 54
            Have a fever and you rave!
            1. -21
              April 10 2020 21: 00
              Quote: mig29mks
              Have a fever and you rave!

              Give a link to the video, or can you find it in a search engine? You just need to type in the search engine "Putin goes to the toilet with 6 guards." Find it and you will start delirium.
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              2. +1
                April 10 2020 21: 15
                Not you, but you !!! And if Putin does not trust them, why doesn’t he have to go with guards, even to the toilet?
                1. +10
                  April 10 2020 21: 31
                  Quote: mig29mks
                  why doesn’t he have to go with guards, even to the toilet?

                  Well, some are especially interested in toilet topics and how many are there, and with whom. Well, that’s how people’s psyche is ... feel
                  1. -15
                    April 10 2020 22: 04
                    Quote: Tank Hard
                    Well, some are especially interested in toilet topics and how many are there, and with whom. Well, that’s how people’s psyche is ...

                    Not. We are interested in the behavior of a leader. Is he really cool, or is he a coward. And pretends to be a hero. You can fly as you wish with the Siberian Cranes and soak enemies in the toilet, but in the event of a real danger to your own life or health, a person instantly turns into a jelly. On the face, even during a television appeal, uncertainty and fear are read. And all these hide and seek games are nasty. Because behind all this is the hypocritical game of a leader hero. It is a game. Cowardly and sad for all of us. Because instead of verified and necessary decisions, the pseudo hero shakes with fear and entrusts the adoption of strategically important decisions to people unknown to the country.
                    1. +4
                      April 10 2020 22: 14
                      Quote: Antique
                      but in the event of a real danger to one’s own life or health, a person instantly turns into jelly

                      I really don’t know about you. You were not with me in 2005, in Bishkek, in a self-defense detachment of about 20 people (and at least 100 thought), in the vicinity of Toktogul-Sverdlov streets. So, I can’t say anything about you, I don’t know ... And I don’t know about Putin, but I didn’t see him chewing on a tie like Saakashvili ... So I won’t talk about cowards with you ... request
                      1. -8
                        April 11 2020 05: 36
                        It's not about me. They have already read about you too. It is about this heroic episode.
                        It is uninteresting and has nothing to do with our conversation.
                        Once again we discuss the behavior of the leader of a huge country. Which, judging by some information, with his so-called family hid either in Valdai or elsewhere. Sits there and tries to rule the country. Which is screwed into a tailspin of several crises. Moreover, all these crises are organized by him.
                        In this difficult period, the leader relieves himself of responsibility, does not make independent management decisions.
                        Yes, he doesn’t chew a tie yet. But the enemy’s tanks near Valday or Novo Ogarevo are also not visible.
                        Such behavior is called cowardice and avoidance of responsibility.
                      2. -3
                        April 11 2020 23: 54
                        Quote: Tank Hard
                        self-defense unit of about 20

                        from cavo self-dear dear? It seems that you are lying.
                        1. -1
                          April 11 2020 23: 57
                          Quote: doodlez
                          from cavo self-dear dear? It seems that you are lying.

                          A masterpiece! What is your Russian language, Kolya. laughing
                        2. 0
                          April 12 2020 00: 05
                          Quote: Tank Hard
                          A masterpiece! What is your Russian language, Kolya

                          say what kind of self-defense or are you just a Troll and a liar. you have ever been there Toktogul-Sverdlov.
                        3. 0
                          April 12 2020 00: 11
                          Quote: doodlez
                          have you ever been there Toktogul - Sverdlov.

                          I will answer you as an intellectual, Toktogul - Umetalieva - Sydykov. "Glass". Well, if you understand, the final. And you know where you go ... wink
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                        5. 0
                          April 12 2020 00: 32
                          Quote: doodlez
                          yes you are persecuted and gonish. hero .. 2005? slept?

                          Justify.
                        6. -1
                          April 12 2020 00: 42
                          what self-defense? 2005 Iraq on Turusbekova non-profitable recreation center was but it is 90g.
                        7. +1
                          April 12 2020 00: 51
                          Quote: doodlez
                          what self-defense? 2005 Iraq on Turusbekova non-profitable recreation center was but it is 90g.

                          Elemental, Kolya, from residents of nearby houses. In our case, 2 people coordinated. In general, self-defense - the militia was organized by Usen Kudaibergenov (who was shot shortly after the normalization of the situation), however, not only he. Ours lived for a day, then the situation improved and the need for it disappeared. The looters died down, some of them were reassured. It was 2005. And here is 90 (which I also found)? What is your opus for?
                  2. -4
                    April 12 2020 08: 52
                    Well, some are especially interested in toilet topics


                    After "soaking in the toilet," Putin's name is firmly associated with the topic of the toilet. So the level of discussion was set earlier.
              3. +1
                April 10 2020 22: 23
                What does it have to do with oil and going to the toilet, even if it's true? Or is it important for you to spit?
                1. +9
                  April 10 2020 23: 24
                  Quote: Forester1971
                  What does it have to do with oil and going to the toilet, even if it's true? Or is it important for you to spit?

                  It's easier. This is called "throwing a dead cat on the table" and while everyone is agitating about this, we will stir up our affairs ... (the term "dead cat" from B. Johnson)
                  1. -2
                    April 11 2020 06: 35
                    Everything is more pragmatic: at this time, someone is rubbing master silver.
                2. +1
                  April 11 2020 05: 47
                  Quote: Forester1971
                  What does it have to do with oil and going to the toilet, even if it's true? Or is it important for you to spit?

                  You look deeper and wider.
                  FALSE unites these two events.
                  The first lie is that as a result of the actions of the national leader, Russia won. This is our loss, monstrous in its consequences. He led us to this.
                  The second lie is a lie about the essence of a national leader. The heroic image depicted by the Kremlin propaganda turned out to be a picture on the wall of Papa Carlo’s room. For this picture is hiding completely different. There is no leader who is smart, insightful, bold, prudent, and taking care of the interests of the country. There is a very limited, scared, insecure and I will write directly a hypocritical person. Of which personal well-being is much more interested than the interests of millions of Russians.
                  1. -1
                    April 11 2020 16: 51
                    Wow, what a strong psychologist you are, how you could figure out the true essence of a person by watching TV. Maybe you should work in this direction, and not write comments, get rich - it's a joke.
                    But seriously, what you wrote is complete nonsense, your purely personal opinion, which has nothing to do with reality.
                    And are you also very well versed in the global oil market?
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          2. +3
            April 10 2020 21: 03
            Quote: Antique
            Light-Dark during his last visit to Macron, proceeded to the toilet, accompanied by 6! the guards

            Well, rudeness is certainly cool, but there is something to say on the topic, or are you an expert on outhouses only?
            1. -12
              April 10 2020 21: 29
              Quote: Barmaleyka
              Well, rudeness is certainly cool, but there is something to say on the topic, or are you an expert on outhouses only?

              Why does your company immediately start thinking about the vile? Where do these phrases about feces and stuff come from? Some kind of game. In fact, everything is very decent. I mean the video. In general, we must, we simply must know absolutely everything about our leaders. Because in difficult times, we must be sure of them. Enough for us traitors and scoundrels in power such as Gorby and Boriski drunk. We must know whether our leader is cowardly or not. If he is a coward and sits in a bunker, running the country by telephone and is not ready to lay down his head for a good common cause, then the question arises when he will give us up with giblets <when ​​there is a threat to his health or his capital. And if he is not a coward, then the next question. Why does he behave this way. If you are a leader, be one. If not a leader, don't take someone else's place.
              Whether he will press a button about a retaliatory strike or throw a white flag when nuclear missiles fly to the country, this is what I want to understand and know.
              1. KAV
                +2
                April 10 2020 22: 02
                Quote: Antique
                we must, we simply must know absolutely everything about our leaders
                Eco pushed you ... Maybe they should also know with whom and where they sleep and eat? What and when do they think? With whom and what are they talking about by telephone number 1?
                Quote: Antique
                We must know the coward is our leader or not
                And who are you? A coward or not? Or should our leader not know who is behind him?
                Quote: Antique
                If he is a coward and sits in a bunker, running the country by phone and is not ready to lay down his head for a good common cause, then the question arises when he will give us up with giblets <when ​​there is a threat to his health or his capital
                And you, sorry, where are you now? Is it really on the front line? Are grenades and bullets flying from enemy territory flying at you? Or are you on the couch dying of boredom?
                Quote: Antique
                And if he is not a coward, then the next question. Why is he acting like that. If you are a leader, be him. If not a leader, do not take someone else's place
                Does he take your place? So why did you give him your place just like that? Such a daredevil and leader! Go and take your OWN place from him! You deserve it more! The people will follow you in droves!
                Quote: Antique
                Whether he will press a button about a retaliatory strike or throw a white flag when nuclear missiles fly to the country, this is what I want to understand and know.
                The pursuit of knowledge is the engine of education. For example, I want to know what's inside the black holes.
                And you, my advice, stop writing nonsense. Tie up with heavy ...
                1. -2
                  April 11 2020 05: 51
                  Thank you for the standard response of the activist. Everything is as it should according to the template. With the usual ending. Why are your manuals not updated? Defect.
              2. +6
                April 10 2020 22: 38
                Quote: Antique
                If he is a coward and sits in a bunker, controlling the country by telephone and is not ready to lay his head for a good common cause, the question arises when will he surrender us with giblets

                if tomorrow the head of state in the forefront with a cry of cheers breaks into the attack, I will first say that this is not the head but IDIOT
          3. -2
            April 10 2020 21: 27
            Quote: Antique
            Putin is the most mediocre, cheaply lost.

            How many people, so many opinions, and it’s not at all necessary that your opinion is correct. There is one such thing: ..
            [media =https://topcor.ru/14049-rossija-vynudila-sauditov-kapitulirovat-v-neftjanoj-vojne.html]
            1. 0
              April 10 2020 21: 54
              Quote: Tank Hard
              How many people, so many opinions, and it’s not at all necessary that your opinion is correct. There is one such thing: ..
              [media = https: //topcor.ru/14049-rossija-vynudila-sauditov-kapitulirovat-v-neftjanoj-vojne.html]

              Finally! Now I completely agree. Everyone has the right to their own opinion. good
              1. D16
                -1
                April 10 2020 22: 42
                Everyone has the right to their own opinion. good

                But sometimes it's better to chew than talk laughing .
                1. -1
                  April 11 2020 05: 53
                  You're right. Sometimes it's better to just do nothing than write.
                  1. D16
                    0
                    April 11 2020 07: 48
                    The first lie is that as a result of the actions of the national leader, Russia won. This is our loss, monstrous in its consequences. He led us to this.

                    Do not take care of yourself, Yuri Venediktovich, you think all about Russia ... laughing laughing laughing
          4. -3
            April 10 2020 23: 35
            Quote: Antique
            Putin as mediocre as possible, cheaply lost

            If the United States has indeed undertaken at least some obligations, then it can already be interpreted as a "draw", the losses are of course huge, but if the United States limits production at least at the level of the same 8.5 million barrels, then it's already not bad
        5. +4
          April 11 2020 02: 11
          Telegram / nezigar: The victory over the shales is canceled - Russia is ready to join the deal to reduce oil production. The price war in which Sechin dragged Russia in March ended for us in complete defeat. Instead of the proposed 0,5 million barrels a month ago, now it is necessary to cut production by about 2 million.
          Saudi Arabia seems to be ready for a further reduction, from 11,3 million to 8,5 million. But there is a nuance, as they say. Before the start of the price war, the Saudis produced 9,7 million barrels, and then sharply increased production, resenting the unreasonable actions of Russia. Saudi Arabia will be reduced from a new, much higher level. If you count from March, then only 1,2 million.
          The United States does not participate in the deal at all and does not intend to cut its production. If the market situation improves, they will be able to raise production as much as possible when the main competitors are bound by accepted restrictions. Is it okay with the slates?
          1. 0
            April 11 2020 04: 05
            Is it okay with the slates?
            US oil production will be reduced by 1,8 million barrels in 2020. This is 18% of the volume of reductions that the OPEC + countries are now discussing. US Department of Energy Information Releases Update for its 2020 Forecast
            Thus, oil giants such as ExxonMobil, Chevron and Continental Resources announced a reduction in capital costs by 20-30% and a reduction in shale production in the United States. “The American oil industry is starting to cuts that are being requested by Saudi Arabia, Russia and other OPEC + countries.
            Nitsche so fought smile
          2. D16
            -3
            April 11 2020 07: 59
            Is it okay with the slates?

            War whale and elephant lol . Urals began to be mined in America, but do we have VTI?
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      2. +5
        April 10 2020 19: 42
        Quote: KAV
        But in fact, what happens is that they are trying to convince us that this is our mistake. Shish to you all!

        They are there like small children. This is actually an oil war between Russia and Saudi Arabia with the US shale.
        1. +3
          April 10 2020 20: 05
          "war" for our presence) share) in Europe + here and Gazprom against the USA and other LNG
          the conclusion is simple --- within 20 g there will be a redistribution of the spheres of influence (according to the economical power of countries) of the world in the world. Fuel and energy complex (wider than oil-gas) is part of this process.
          1. +2
            April 10 2020 20: 07
            Usually, the redistribution of spheres of influence took place after the World War, but now it is impossible and they came up with a coronafer.
            1. +1
              April 10 2020 20: 10
              Oil + LNG shale climbed 2 g ago. Wrote about 4 years for the construction of factories in the USA and others - this is in 20
              peak of the crisis.
              try until all without war
              1. -1
                April 10 2020 20: 13
                In fact of the matter. If it strongly presses, they can start a war game, local, for starters. I hope our people understand this and will not reach the edge.
                1. -1
                  April 10 2020 20: 17
                  I promise - there will be no war-- but the counter-terror in Central Asia and the Caucasus can be arranged and we will play along with them.
                  not one shaman dances, but also the audience crouch to the beat without leaving a place
                  1. D16
                    +2
                    April 10 2020 22: 47
                    I promise - there won’t be any war-- but anti-terror in the Central Asia and the Caucasus can be arranged and we will play along with them

                    All the warlike potential went to the promised land of Syria, and seems to remain there as fertilizer.
              2. +1
                April 10 2020 21: 20
                Wars are already going on Syria, Libya, Iraq, and Ukraine are all wars for the energy market. And that's why we are there.
        2. +1
          April 10 2020 20: 22
          Quote: Sergey39
          This is actually an oil war between Russia and Saudi Arabia with the US shale.

          Another reason to fill the whole world with freebie oil is simply not to come up. At the existing rates of shale oil production, the peninsula has up to 30-35 g. This is not much, but enough to irrigate raspberries with feces for those countries whose share of oil production in the economy is significant. Alas, in ours too.
          1. D16
            0
            April 10 2020 22: 58
            Another reason to fill the whole world with freebie oil is simply not to come up.

            What an oilman you are. laughing Who has changed what during this time? There are oil refining enterprises. They are ground on its certain grades. There are long-term contracts tied to the semi-annual price of oil. Some upstarts of Arab origin announced a sickly discount. They have their own customers. Let them sell them cheaper. So, apparently, they don’t sell
            laughing .
      3. Aag
        +3
        April 10 2020 23: 57
        "They would be better off doing their own thing and not sticking their noses where they shouldn't."
        This is just their business. They live it. And so far very successfully.
      4. -1
        April 11 2020 00: 14
        Quote: KAV
        If this were really a mistake of Russia, then the United States would now silently rub hands and watch, and would not feed from each media resource.
        But in fact, what happens is that they are trying to convince us that this is our mistake. Shish to you all!

        The 90s taught us how to respond automatically to any American rhetoric.

        They scold - it means everything is going as it should, we are doing everything right.
        They started to praise - it means that something is slanting, you need to change something.

        You don’t even need to think and analyze.

        But the oil crisis, all the most heinous filth that the West can do to us, is not like a year, not two, not ten, we live on the same planet. For many centuries we are accustomed to know how to react and how to survive.

        PS And they begin to regret - "Poor, unhappy Russia, what is she doing, it will be bad for them ..." - I somehow immediately see a crying crocodile with an open mouth ...
    2. +6
      April 10 2020 18: 48
      The main opponent of the Saudis is not Moscow, but Iran! This is where the low cost of oil is hit, to intercept the customers of its oil. And Russia will lose in this race if it keeps the prices for energy carriers inside the state at the same level, and does not lower them by 2 times. Because the production of goods in Russia will become 2 times more expensive than abroad and production in Russia will fall. As the next plague ends, China will start to work, energy prices will go up, only China will benefit more from this because it will buy oil deposits in other countries cheaper than it would buy now. Constantly rising energy prices are disadvantageous to anyone, because costs are rising and when at a certain stage in the development of technologies their maximum development occurs, without the ability to grow further, oil is specially lowered in price so that investments in new technologies will pay for themselves, and they will replace the old ones. In 1985 it was the same thing, the introduction of new technologies with a payback began, and the Union collapsed itself due to the idiocy and betrayal of its leadership. It can also be with the states. The world is governed not by those who ordinary people think about.
      1. +5
        April 10 2020 18: 52
        Quote: st25310
        That’s where it’s hit by the low cost of oil,

        Well, I’m falling, they’re not the only ones who live by oil ...
      2. +4
        April 11 2020 00: 32
        Quote: st25310
        Russia will lose in this race if it keeps energy prices within the state at the same level, and does not lower them by 2 times. Because the production of goods in Russia will become 2 times more expensive than abroad and production in Russia will fall.

        This is understandable to everyone - from Karl Marx with the company of the best economic theorists of all time to a simple grandfather in the Non-Black Earth Region on a "kopeck" who once every two weeks (out of economy) refills his "swallow" with gasoline, looking for the cheapest gas station around.

        It is not clear only to our oil "effective managers". From their point of view, the main thing in their activities is not oil production to meet the country's needs, but profit. And, naturally, if its price falls on the foreign market, then the lost money must be returned. Where from? Yes, from the domestic market, of course! And what does the production of goods have to do with it, in their opinion? They don’t buy meat in the market and rice in the supermarket near their home, so they don’t think about any production, except oil. People will always buy gasoline. Well, for a week, until the shock wears off, demand will go down ... Well, the plebs will make some noise ... Well, the authorities will scold ... And EXACTLY the authorities, and not those who really rule. And then everything will calm down. Everyone will get used to it.

        The first time, or something - 30 years so we live ...
    3. -4
      April 10 2020 18: 49
      American shalemen fly off, and Russia's mistake, especially, as I understand it, Russia simply refused unacceptable conditions. And the stripes some kind of war immediately began from this.
      1. -4
        April 10 2020 19: 04
        American shalemen fly off, and Russia's mistake, especially, as I understand it, Russia simply refused unacceptable conditions. And the stripes some kind of war immediately began from this.

        We were offered to reduce 1,5 million barrels per day, we refused.
        And now it will have to be reduced by 1,8 million barrels compared to March.
        1. +6
          April 10 2020 19: 07
          Quote: Arzt
          And now it will have to be reduced by 1,8 million barrels compared to March.

          But not in one mug.
          1. Aag
            +2
            April 11 2020 00: 10
            Not special, if I blurt out, correct. I understand (from the news) they decided to reduce by 10. Of these, the Russian Federation by 2.7. And what was our percentage in world production? We were again bent (indirectly, through our oligarchs). And more , did you get the impression that the US is pushing us towards more radical measures against the Saudis?
        2. +1
          April 10 2020 19: 09
          Quote: Arzt
          And now it will have to be reduced by 1,8 million barrels compared to March.

          Don't say "hop" ahead of time - as far as we know, the US itself refuses to cut production, which means that Russia can send them all away. It was not for nothing that Trump and the Saudis fussed about, starting to conduct direct trilateral negotiations with Putin.
        3. +5
          April 10 2020 19: 11
          Quote: Arzt
          American shalemen fly off, and Russia's mistake, especially, as I understand it, Russia simply refused unacceptable conditions. And the stripes some kind of war immediately began from this.

          We were offered to reduce 1,5 million barrels per day, we refused.
          And now it will have to be reduced by 1,8 million barrels compared to March.

          Yesterday everyone shouted about 3,5 ... then about 3 ... now 1,8))
        4. +13
          April 10 2020 19: 19
          Quote: Arzt
          And now it will have to be reduced by 1,8 million barrels compared to March.

          Alas, more.
          In March, production is 11.3. Cut-off level-11. The quota for the new agreement is 8,47.
          That is, a decrease relative to March is 2,8 million barrels.
          1. +1
            April 10 2020 20: 08
            any quota zilch
            important - share and margin, profit from that market share .shoulder of delivery. verified, old buyers, banks. reciprocal deliveries of mash and agricultural products .. EVERYTHING IN THE COMPLEX. "oil industry" is a part of any country, no more than an economy.
        5. +4
          April 10 2020 19: 51
          Quote: Arzt
          We were offered to reduce 1,5 million barrels per day, we refused.
          And now it will have to be reduced by 1,8 million barrels compared to March.

          True, the refusal was not due to the volume of reduction, but because Canada Mexico Norgi and others did not participate in the transaction
        6. D16
          -5
          April 10 2020 20: 21
          And now it will have to be reduced by 1,8 million barrels compared to March

          And how do you imagine the reduction in oil production in Russia? No, on the TV you can say anything. Peskov knows how laughing . After all, we have not only Rosneft and Sechin. Reduce cost, cover low-profit wells, adapt to the price. Stop spending money on geologists. After a couple of years, oil is one hundred and everyone is happily rushing along the Arctic shelf in search of new fieldslaughing .
          1. +1
            April 10 2020 20: 50
            Quote: D16
            After all, we have not only Rosneft and Sechin. Reduce cost, cover low-profit wells, adapt to the price. Stop spending money on geologists. H

            Can you imagine how much will have to be reduced? How much will it be as a percentage of all oil production?
            Have you heard about the multiplier effect? This is when, for example, the production of cars is reduced <and along the way, at the beginning, problems begin for all direct subcontractors <then for all those who are associated with these subcontractors, and so on.
            Problems grow like a snowball. The same thing will happen when production volumes are reduced. Everything related to geophysics, engineering, petrochemistry will go under the knife. Part of the wells will have to be abandoned forever. We have a lot of difficult oil. And its extraction, it’s not a tap with water to open and close. Colossal problems await us.
            1. D16
              +1
              April 10 2020 20: 53
              Can you imagine how much will have to be reduced?

              And how do you imagine the reduction in oil production in Russia?
              laughing
            2. 0
              April 10 2020 21: 34
              Quote: Antique
              . Colossal problems await us.

              Everything is lost! laughing
              1. -4
                April 10 2020 21: 39
                Quote: Tank Hard
                Everything is lost!

                When you walk in a gas mask, there are no problems. I understand.
                1. -2
                  April 10 2020 21: 48
                  Quote: Antique
                  When you walk in a gas mask, there are no problems.

                  Do not envy, just buy and calm down. laughing
                  1. -4
                    April 10 2020 22: 06
                    Quote: Tank Hard
                    Do not envy, just buy and calm down.

                    Thanks for the advice. I will not use it.
            3. +2
              April 10 2020 21: 49
              Quote: Antique
              Can you imagine how much will have to be reduced? How much will it be as a percentage of all oil production?

              In practice, they will cheat. There’s simply nowhere to go. A decrease of 2,7 in our conditions is simply a disaster.
              Quote: Antique
              Colossal problems await us.

              I'm afraid people because of the manipulation of their consciousness through the media simply can not imagine the scale of the impending problems. Now, of course, they will be blamed on anyone from the coronavirus and the Americans to Navalny and the Bolsheviks.
              But this will not reduce the severity of the problems. Prices of 30 with a greatly reduced production of the Russian Federation will withstand a year on the strength. Maybe a half.
              Now they will "hold reserves" (that is, distribute them only to those close to them) and keep the course for a while.
              1. +6
                April 10 2020 22: 02
                Quote: Odyssey

                In practice, they will cheat.

                It won’t work out very much. Funs of the period 2016-2019, when verbally reduced and actually set one production record after another, didn’t go unnoticed. The abbreviations are not about production but about the volume of exports. How much you actually produce will not be of any interest to anyone. And export flows they’ll be checked firmly and convention violators will be beaten immediately and heavily up to the embargo. Oil now at least flood and the disappearance of 5 million barrels for violation of the conditions the market will not notice. And the rest of the participants will only applaud the disappearance of the competition that
            4. 0
              April 11 2020 01: 06
              Oh, wait for cheap gas from us, alas, the rulers do not consider the domestic market, on the contrary, I read that they banned the import of cheap fuel.
        7. +3
          April 10 2020 23: 39
          Quote: Arzt
          We were offered to reduce 1,5 million barrels per day

          It seems that they didn’t offer us, but they all offered to reduce this volume
      2. +1
        April 10 2020 19: 58
        Quote: Gray Brother
        all the more, as I understand it, Russia simply refused unacceptable conditions.

        Yeah, she refused. Yes, so cool, right at the door Novak slammed. And here they are, - Oh, how can we! Oh how cool we are! And now, without too much noise, we agree to even more unacceptable conditions. Thin politics, understand ...
        1. -2
          April 10 2020 20: 36
          In this situation, the conditions are quite acceptable - although Russia will now extract 417 million tons instead of 560 million according to market needs.
          1. 0
            April 10 2020 20: 54
            Quote: Vadim237
            In this situation, the conditions are quite acceptable.

            That is exactly what the Kremlin propagandists say. But the whole world calls it the surrender of Russia. Saudi Arabia delivered an ultimatum to Russia. Another popular headline for the world press.
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              1. -5
                April 10 2020 21: 45
                Quote: Tank Hard
                The whole world is [the antique (Vladislav), apparently, then yes - this is the whole world.

                I understand. Catch it.
                1. +5
                  April 10 2020 21: 50
                  Quote: Antique
                  Catch

                  So what? Is this the ultimate truth ?! laughing So-so example ... feel
                  1. -9
                    April 10 2020 22: 08
                    Quote: Tank Hard
                    So what? Is this the ultimate truth ?! So-so example ...

                    A lot of them. Related articles around the world. I will not take a screenshot. But I have to believe. As I am, I am writing.
                    1. Aag
                      -2
                      April 11 2020 00: 30
                      I can’t appreciate it due to illiteracy in this area, but reputation losses, as they say, are obvious. Will they connect Shoigu? (Well, since we have VO).
        2. D16
          -2
          April 10 2020 20: 50
          And now, without too much noise, we agree to even more unacceptable conditions. Thin politics, understand ...

          What a stupid thing. The current exchange price of oil is unacceptable. They fight with her. Arrange with monitors. Woodo people laughing You look up a couple of bucks.
          Py.sy. And production in any way will be reduced. There are wells with low profitability. They will be covered over time. And that’s all.
    4. -1
      April 10 2020 18: 54
      I’m not very strong in global schakonomics, but can someone explain to me why the oil price is considered in dollars?
      1. +5
        April 10 2020 19: 05
        Reserve world currency. Is it not in the tugriks to count, in fact?
        1. -6
          April 10 2020 19: 11
          Quote: Pereira
          Reserve world currency. Is it not in the tugriks to count, in fact?

          That is, if she herself does not become a tug, there are three reserve currencies now, and the Ketai depends on the American one, since all American manufactures are located there.
          This is weird.
          1. +16
            April 10 2020 19: 16
            Among those who predicted the collapse of the American financial system, many have already died of old age. Many retired and do not raise this topic anymore.
            Talk about the transition to national currencies did not go further than propaganda.
            Either Russia increases its contribution to world GDP by 10 times, or the dollar forever. The probability of both scenarios is easy to calculate yourself. There is no need to be a dock in the global economy.
            1. +1
              April 10 2020 19: 20
              Quote: Pereira
              Among those who predicted the collapse of the American financial system, many have already died of old age.

              Nowadays, prices in the USA are rising and for $ 200 a car has not been bought for seventy years. All the pyramids collapse, just the time correlates with size.
              1. +4
                April 10 2020 19: 25
                But salaries are also rising. Though not at all.
                The waiters, I read, have not grown since the 70s. But the number of billionaires has since increased many times over. There is money, though not at all. The elite and the propagandists have.
                While the elites of all countries keep their savings in the United States, you can not worry about them.
                We will be realistic. The only threat to US finances is Yellowstone.
                But Americans are more prepared for zombie apocalypse.
                But you must admit, making financial forecasts on this is unscientific.
                1. +1
                  April 10 2020 19: 29
                  Quote: Pereira
                  But salaries are also rising.

                  In fact, no - they are growing in the number of pieces of paper, and pieces of paper are fading. In the 90s, I generally received three lyamas a month. Eh, blue skirts wassat
                  1. +6
                    April 10 2020 19: 31
                    Yes, it was.
                    Here is an illustration for you - wealth does not depend on the number of zeros on banknotes.
                    1. +1
                      April 10 2020 19: 33
                      Quote: Pereira
                      Here is an illustration for you - wealth does not depend on the number of zeros on banknotes.

                      I completely agree with you - material values ​​rule. good
                      1. +1
                        April 10 2020 20: 14
                        Basis yes - material. That's just controlled by just virtual values ​​that can be exchanged for material. And there are no methods to counter this. Unless, of course, do not take extreme measures.
                        1. +1
                          April 10 2020 20: 31
                          Quote: Pereira
                          That's just controlled by just virtual values ​​that can be exchanged for material.

                          It looks like charlatanism, like Alan Chumak - "put containers with water on the TV screen."
                          And I propose to smell of nuclear weapons in all places where there is a lot of combustible material - not in the United States, but for those who can’t answer for a nuclear winter to come, and we’ll make seeds in currency - it will be galloping, it’s not for nothing that the sunflowers are called.
                          Then we’ll see how the liter of oil and the dollar correlate there.
                        2. +2
                          April 10 2020 22: 59
                          Theoretically, the idea is not bad. Fresh, I would say.
                          The problem is that I can’t see the result, because I will die. I live, you know, in the wrong place.
                          And if I can’t, then I somehow do not care that the owners of Rosneft will suffer losses due to falling gas prices in both dollar and ruble terms.
                        3. 0
                          April 11 2020 02: 28
                          Brother, I was thinking on a drunken head here. You can discuss it too. But on the whole, I definitely like the idea.
          2. +1
            April 10 2020 19: 51
            Quote: Gray Brother
            Quote: Pereira
            Reserve world currency. Is it not in the tugriks to count, in fact?

            That is, if she herself does not become a tug, there are three reserve currencies now, and the Ketai depends on the American one, since all American manufactures are located there.
            This is weird.

            There is nothing strange.
            The Soviet Union won World War II over fascism.
            And American capital is above the global economic system.
            The dollar has become a global financial measure.
            Weimar Germany once in the late twenties was able to get out of hyperinflation by strictly equating its brand to the cost of a kilogram of rye grain.
            It was named so - "rye brand". Prices began to be expressed not in trillions, but in stamps and pfennigs.
            The modern dollar is tied to oil. Oil confirms its substantial filling. One is confirmed by the other. Not bad, almost brilliant.
            If you forget that this paper is printed by the Yankees as torn.
            And it is not known when and how this scam will end ... wink
        2. +1
          April 11 2020 01: 10
          hi
          Quote: Pereira
          Reserve world currency. Is it not in the tugriks to count, in fact?

          And let's look distractedly.
          And why not in the tugriks? Or Maori shells? Why was the oil price tied to the currency of one of the main players in the oil market, which, the currency itself, is not provided with anything except ponte and puffing cheeks and, besides, the pretzels themselves prescribe those with their own economy?

          The economic model.
          We all live here in the same village called "Topwar.ru". I bake pies, you grow cabbage, Sergei (Gray brother) sculpts dishes from clay, and so on. And so we are going to and agree to express the price of any product in my pies (there are some nishtyaks in me !!). And everything is fine, until I either save the filling, then mix the sawdust into the flour, then make the pies smaller so that I have more of them, then I'll napordybach ... And the head of your cabbage, regardless of the quality of my pies, is as worth 5 pies - so it will be worth 5 pies.

          It turns out beautifully? I myself know not. So why not make a universal equivalent something that does not depend on anyone?
          They tried to make gold with this equivalent. There are cons, many advantages ... There was a big plus - such an equivalent, if beneficial, then to everyone. If it is not profitable, then again to everyone. And the biggest minus - it was not beneficial to the United States. After Bretton Wood, they suffered inconvenience until De Gaulle angered America. And then the games of equality ended. And the Jamaican system came. Here is a wrapper for five of my pies for your cabbage swing and calm down. Because I ate the pies myself. Moreover, they gluttoned themselves so that if I again begin to distribute pies instead of a wrapper, then I already owe them so much that I can’t bake for three lives.

          So, with regards to me, for me 50 tugriks per barrel would be much fairer than 50 dollars. Only in Mongolia then the printing press is taken away. laughing
      2. +10
        April 10 2020 19: 07
        Sergei hi
        I will try to answer shorter
        In 1944, under the Bretton Woods Agreements, 44 countries' currencies were pegged to the dollar, and the dollar to gold ($ 35 per troy ounce). In August 1971, Nixon temporarily canceled the gold backing of the dollar due to the further impossibility of doing so. To repair the "world system" in December 1971, the Smithsonian Agreement was reached, which established actually new, albeit more flexible pegging of currencies to the dollar, and the price itself became $ 37-38 per troy ounce - in fact, the dollar devalued by 7,7%. In February 1973, there was another devaluation of the dollar against gold to $ 42 - in a year and a half, the dollar devalued by 17%. The value of the dollar as a base currency has fallen.
        Against this background, Nixon is pushing agreements with Saudi Arabia that it sells all its oil only for US dollars in exchange for military assistance and protection of fields, including from Israel. And in 1975, the whole OPEC agreed to sell oil only for US dollars.
        1. +3
          April 10 2020 19: 14
          Quote: Rich
          Against this backdrop, Nixon is pushing agreements with Saudi Arabia that it sells all its oil for US dollars only.

          Those. it turns out that the buck is tied to the price of oil produced in another country. I understood.
          1. +4
            April 10 2020 20: 53
            Those. it turns out that the buck is tied to the price of oil produced in another country. I understood.

            Absolutely right. Therefore, Russia, despite numerous invitations, does not seek OPEC, is content with the status of an observer country. From April 1, 2020, between OPEC countries and countries outside the cartel - Russia, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan (OPEC +) - obligations to reduce oil production ceased due to the non-extension of the contract to reduce production on March 6, 2020.
            1. +2
              April 10 2020 21: 03
              Quote: Rich
              Absolutely right

              I dare to suspect that the shale boom of recent years was needed to attach a material component to the papers.
              No wonder Americans have become leaders in the export of hydrocarbons. And now they’ve started some kind of war - why would it?
            2. Aag
              +1
              April 11 2020 00: 38
              Then why agreed to reduce production?
        2. 0
          April 12 2020 16: 15
          Quote: Rich
          Sergei hi
          ... Against this background, Nixon is pushing agreements with Saudi Arabia that it sells all its oil only for US dollars in exchange for military assistance and protection of deposits, including from Israel ...


          this agreement in its spirit can most likely be defined as a requirement, the KSA has surrendered and this requirement has been strictly observed to this day.
      3. +5
        April 10 2020 19: 12
        Because...
        Like so...
        Or...
        This ...
        No, like that !!!
        Because the world is tied
        On the green loot ....
        We must try very hard that ....
        Help him get out .... love
        1. D16
          -1
          April 10 2020 21: 13
          Draw a blue, convince the world. Fed Krants laughing
      4. 0
        April 10 2020 19: 22
        Quote: Gray Brother
        I’m not very strong in global schakonomics, but can someone explain to me why the oil price is considered in dollars?

        And now you are mowing under whom. Asking this question?
        1. +1
          April 10 2020 19: 28
          Quote: Observer2014
          And now you are mowing under whom. Asking this question?

          The usual attempt to divert from discussion of the topic of the article
          1. -7
            April 10 2020 19: 30
            Quote: kjhg
            Quote: Observer2014
            And now you are mowing under whom. Asking this question?

            The usual attempt to divert from discussion of the topic of the article

            Are you asking your question
            ... can I explain why the oil price is considered in dollars?
            Article
            The United States considers the oil war with Saudi Arabia a big mistake for Russia
            Right trump ace up your sleeve you might think laughing
            1. +4
              April 10 2020 19: 33
              You misunderstood. I meant that it Gray brother trying to pull aside.
        2. +2
          April 10 2020 19: 32
          Quote: Observer2014
          And now you are mowing under whom. Asking this question?

          Under myself beloved, the stump is clear. I'm just bored and the vodka is over.
          1. -4
            April 10 2020 19: 34
            Quote: Gray Brother
            Quote: Observer2014
            And now you are mowing under whom. Asking this question?

            Under myself beloved, the stump is clear. I'm just bored and the vodka is over.

            Here's the cutest. And you had to start. wink laughing
            1. +2
              April 10 2020 19: 35
              Quote: Observer2014
              Here's the cutest. And you had to start.

              I started yesterday. Self-insulated here, only in the boutiques and running around - people shy away from me cool)))
              1. -3
                April 10 2020 19: 40
                I started yesterday. Self-insulated here, only in the boutiques and running around - people shy away from me cool)))
                This is because self-isolation is not good for anyone. Well, except for his Mlyn. Ah! Here. Count Monte Cristo. I didn’t bring good. wink Do not get sick! drinks And the Americans are still in their opinion. And the color of recent events is not so wrong and expressed themselves. But this is my personal opinion hi
                1. +3
                  April 10 2020 19: 45
                  Quote: Observer2014
                  Do not get sick

                  Yes, I don’t care - I’m sure that if I get sick, my powerful body will simply gain immunity for free, and I sent all of mine to the village five days ago, so I have no one to infect. I'm sitting here on bags of groats, military apocalypse damn.
                  I'll go to the chtol store.
                  1. -3
                    April 10 2020 19: 50
                    Quote: Gray Brother
                    Quote: Observer2014
                    Do not get sick

                    Yes, I don’t care - I’m sure that if I get sick, my powerful body will simply gain immunity for free, and I sent all of mine to the village five days ago, so I have no one to infect. I'm sitting here on bags of groats, military apocalypse damn.
                    I'll go to the chtol store.

                    If "Magaz" would be a panacea. If only. Sincerely, Observer, 2014. Yes
                    1. +5
                      April 10 2020 20: 15
                      Quote: Observer2014
                      If "Magaz" was a panacea. E

                      Then the drunks would live longer than all. wassat
                  2. 0
                    April 10 2020 23: 00
                    I’m sure that if I get sick, then my powerful body will simply gain immunity for free, and I sent all of mine to the village five days ago, so I have no one to infect. I’m sitting here on bags with groats, a military apocalypse damn.


                    Be healthy Sergey drinks Do not miss. Everything will form
                    1. +2
                      April 10 2020 23: 19
                      Quote: Rich
                      Be well, Sergey Don't be bored. Everything will form

                      Yes, I am healthy as a bull and my powerful body is ready to reach the damned America!
                      Go laziness of course, but I'm not used to it! I want to eat and the Americans will fit!
              2. +2
                April 10 2020 19: 54
                How difficult it is for you to live!
                "To the village, off the beaten path, to Saratov!" wink
                1. +4
                  April 10 2020 20: 17
                  Quote: Masha
                  How difficult it is for you to live!
                  "To the village, off the beaten path, to Saratov!" wink

                  Mine threatens to pick me up in mid-May, apparently someone is knocking.
                  Hopefully closing the city and curfew.
      5. +1
        April 10 2020 20: 01
        Quote: Gray Brother
        I’m not very strong in global schakonomics, but can someone explain to me why the oil price is considered in dollars?

        So so as not to get out of the usual system of payments. Everyone thinks. The officials are afraid of our earnings too ...
        1. 0
          April 10 2020 21: 09
          Quote: Jovanni
          The officials are afraid of our earnings too ...

          you already decide where yours and where not yours.
          And then I got a clever idea how to get away from taxes.
      6. 0
        April 12 2020 16: 11
        Quote: Gray Brother
        I’m not very strong in global schakonomics, but can someone explain to me why the oil price is considered in dollars?

        the results of WWII and the oil war of 1973 with KSA.
        google the oil crisis of 1973.
    5. +7
      April 10 2020 18: 57
      My ... "horseshoes" made me laugh!
      On BV what influence there can be ??? There they are either afraid of you / fear, or they don’t put a penny in a broken one!
      There we have NO friends / partners! There can only be wards whom we help and have preferences from that!
      Everything, the third is not given.
      In general, nothing is clear yet, the process is in full swing and everyone will replay one hundred times!
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    7. -10
      April 10 2020 18: 58
      The war is not with Saudi Arabia, but with American shales and the shelf.
      And this war has already been won, in the 14th year, the Americans banned the sale of equipment for the production of complex, expensive oil to Russia, in the 20th Russia banned the United States from extracting such oil and producing such equipment.
    8. -5
      April 10 2020 18: 59
      The United States considers the oil war with Saudi Arabia a big mistake for Russia
      Thank God. So do it right?
      1. 0
        April 10 2020 19: 06
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Thank God. So do it right?

        Yes, FIG knows who does what there, but I don’t think that it’s not for nothing that some people bought gold intensively.
        So they suspected of changing priorities.
    9. +7
      April 10 2020 19: 07
      The total decline in production is 10 million barrels per day. The United States itself has reduced its production - there is no demand - the market. Everyone has nowhere to store oil - all storage facilities are full.
      Russia refused to first reduce production by 300 thousand at a price of $ 60 per barrel, and now it will reduce by 2.5 million at a price of $ 20 per barrel. Something does not smell like victory. This is a defeat and gigantic losses.
      1. -3
        April 10 2020 19: 13
        all. and the day after tomorrow all the bowels of the Americans for $ 2 will have to give ...
    10. -4
      April 10 2020 19: 11
      Now she is rapidly losing her position, having entered into a tough confrontation with Saudi Arabia.
      Yes, how to say. The question is being solved, who is the boss in the house (this is ours), and who should be the beloved wife (this is the United States according to the local mentality) feel The Saudis pushed in the hope that we would flow, but now regret it, with their slate. However, they don’t get used to it, the main thing for them is to make a face, they say the USA themselves have come for pleasure. feel
    11. +5
      April 10 2020 19: 12
      The conflict between Moscow and the Saudis, who won there, who lost. Forecasts from various kinds of analysts are not enough.
      But the USA takes the first place in oil production, they have about 15%, the Russian Federation and KSU together produce only about 25% of world oil. And the remaining 60% is mined by other countries and far from all of them are members of OPEC.
      Now some media represent us and the Arabs as if they were fools who shoot themselves in the foot, want to completely ruin the shale in the USA, etc. etc. fool
      But is it not possible that with this demarche both Russia and the Saudis act in concert, although they do not advertise it strongly?
      The goal is this: to establish order in pricing, to force not only the Russian Federation and OPEC to work in this direction, albeit with a plus, but also the USA, Canada, Brazil and a number of other manufacturers that really, while OPEC + reduced production, climbed uncontrollably with their own oil to the market.
      It seems that since the current price level is not beneficial to anyone, nevertheless, by joint efforts, it will be pulled up to $ 45-50, despite not the grave consequences of the coronavirus, in the near future.
      If not, then the price itself will return to normal or even significantly exceed it not soon, but it is true because of a fall in investment in production and in the oil industry as a whole.
      We live, the main thing is that the crop is good ... Yes
      1. +1
        April 10 2020 19: 59
        The way it is. Russia and the Saudis are fighting a war among themselves, as a result of which the shale will lose.
      2. +4
        April 10 2020 23: 29
        Quote: Alekseev
        But is it not possible that with this demarche both Russia and the Saudis act in concert, although they do not advertise it strongly?

        -------------------------
        But is the demarche not expensive? From $ 62 to 25, then at least to 33 WTA brands. Why look for a black cat where it is not?
    12. +6
      April 10 2020 19: 12
      The oil war, the most important for the Russian Federation, ended in its terrible defeat. It is inconvenient to write about it directly, but you need to comment on it somehow. Hence such a vague article, without any details of the completed transaction. The new HPP has not yet been invented until the setting is "no losers" (Peskov). Probably it will be promoted.
      If we talk about reality, the question is very difficult.
      1) We proceed from the thesis "the worse, the better", because the oligarchic-mafia regime simply finishes off Russia and must be changed by any means. Then the oil debacle is a boon.
      2) We proceed from the thesis, people are sorry, and we think that the change of post-Soviet cap.power to new authorities can lead to an even worse situation. Then what happened is a disaster. Quit the transaction with OPEC due to 500 thousand barrels at $ 60, and then be forced to cut 2,7 million at 30, this is simply not being commented on.
      1. +7
        April 10 2020 19: 47
        Quote: Odyssey
        Then what happened is a disaster. Quit the transaction with OPEC due to 500 thousand barrels at $ 60, and then be forced to cut 2,7 million at 30, this is simply not being commented on.

        so no one is commenting! Comment on the role of the States in world politics
        1. +5
          April 10 2020 21: 40
          Quote: Silvestr
          so no one is commenting! Comment on the role of the States in world politics

          It's clear. For what can I say .. Here, even Putin’s supporters (all the more so the supporters of capitalism in the Russian Federation) simply must demand a change in the leadership of the Ministry of Energy and the entire leadership of Rosneft (and Gazprom at the same time, because the situation in the gas sector is even worse). But who can encroach on Sechin and Miller. It is sacred.
          It remains to discuss the role of the United States in world politics and blame everything on coronavirus. This can be done without fear even before the second coming.
          1. -1
            April 11 2020 01: 48
            Those who know little will soon judge. Are they seriously arguing that several people, guided by their own interests, brought down the market, putting Russia's interests at a disadvantage? It is even difficult for us to imagine what forces and means are involved in this situation. I watched briefly the videoconference when the Saudis listened to what Novak was saying and understood that behind his back he had a State that showed its teeth. And the achieved results will be placed in folders marked "Secret", maybe the grandchildren will have the opportunity to read the memoirs of the participants.
        2. +1
          April 10 2020 23: 32
          Quote: Silvestr
          Comment on the role of the States in world politics

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          And what is there to comment? So far, the United States is far from annoying defeats. Trump has become a global dispatcher in the economy. I don’t know, knowingly, purposefully, or whether he got this role by chance.
      2. +1
        April 10 2020 19: 55
        Quote: Odyssey
        The most important oil war for the Russian Federation ended in its terrible defeat

        Before you write nonsense, examine the question. To begin with, I recommend listening to Marcinkiewicz, analysts. Although, where are they to the real experts of your level - hairdressers and taxi drivers.
        1. +3
          April 10 2020 23: 36
          Quote: Botanologist
          To begin with, I recommend listening to Marcinkiewicz, analysts. Although, where are they to the real experts of your level - hairdressers and taxi drivers.

          -----------------------
          Everyone listens to those analysts whose opinions coincide with his own, but not in this case. And by the way, it is incorrect to deny analytical skills to people with higher education and life experience. But analysts also draw their conclusions from publicly available information, few people have insider information.
          1. +1
            April 11 2020 13: 29
            Quote: Altona
            Everyone listens to those analysts whose opinions coincide with his own.

            I have no opinion on oil. I just decided to study the issue, so I reacted to the stream of consciousness. The only question is - to whom are you going to sell oil in the next month - another? At least light, at least Urals? The whole world housekeeper is on her side. Storage at all to the eyeballs. Sell ​​at least that. what happened before, not to mention the increase in volumes. And here on the site, many believe that the best strategy for world trade is to stupidly roam. fool
            1. +2
              April 11 2020 13: 42
              Quote: Botanologist
              The only question is - to whom are you going to sell oil in the next month - another? At least light, at least Urals? The whole world housekeeper is on her side.

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              The point is that the oil price could drop slowly to 45-50, with a lag of a month or two, and not detonate overnight on March 9 to 25, this is what is called a policy that continues the economy. But what you called "stupidly bullshit" was a stupid special operation of our managers, led by the "greatest ruler" with a reduced sense of danger. Sometimes you have to think about what and how you are doing, and what the consequences will be.
              1. -1
                April 11 2020 21: 19
                The scenario of slow lowering of oil was based on squeezing us out of the Chinese market - the largest consumer of oil today. And blocking for us the Indian market - the most promising consumer in the coming decades. How would it help us for 2-3 months of slow lowering, followed by a full ass? And what consequences do you fear more - an acute crisis, during which it turned out almost impossible - America joined the restrictions (!), Or smooth fluctuations up to 40, then up to 70, but in which our markets shrink to the nearest gas station?
                You look at what is happening - increasing the production of shale oil requires new markets. Iran was under sanctions, in 2018 it was cut off from China. Venezuela helped. As soon as the shale men rose - Venezuela is under sanctions. Syria and Libya are not merchants either. Not traders, note with the active participation of the United States. If the shale industry would increase production by 3-5 million barrels per day in the next 5-7 years, the question would have arisen - who is next for the sanctions on oil? Do you think this is Norway? Or Saudi Arabia? I think that they are not. And the one who is already under sanctions. They will find Skripal, or Boeing will be sent to our base in Latakia, but they will block our oil. Fortunately there is something to replace.
                And today, shale shrinks, the United States is cooperating with OPEC + (for the first time in life). even those who previously had not come close to OPEC reduced production. And in the conditions of the global crisis, the main task is no longer to seize someone’s market, but to save at least what is left - in the United States of shale workers, in Saudi Arabia, the 2030 program, in Europe - industry. Not to fat.
      3. +1
        April 10 2020 20: 03
        More precisely, 500 thousand for ALL neopek. Extra confirmation that there are no professionals in the power structures.
      4. -1
        April 10 2020 20: 05
        Excuse me, what is "HPP"?
        1. +1
          April 10 2020 21: 57
          Quote: A.TOR
          Excuse me, what is "HPP"?

          The cunning plan of Putin. The expression has become a household word.
          An example, why did we recognize Poroshenko and allow us to calmly shoot people in Donbass? After all, we just talked about the "junta" and about "just try to shoot"
          The answer is a cunning plan and you don’t understand anything. If we intervene directly there will be a third world war, so we use the Donbass as a battering ram for the federalization of Ukraine. After all, we need all of Ukraine.
          1. 0
            April 11 2020 17: 45
            "Putin's Cunning Plan" yes ... did not know. Thank you enlightened.
      5. +1
        April 10 2020 20: 26
        Quote: Odyssey
        the oligarchic-mafia regime is simply killing Russia and it needs to be changed by any means

        We have already heard, and we have seen "real regimes" before them in the 90s.
        Quote: Odyssey
        Quit the deal with OPEC due to 500 thousand barrels at $ 60, and then be forced to cut 2,7 million at 30, it’s just not commented

        No need to repeat the TV here for everyone, everyone has it like that without your dubbing.
        The deal came about not just because of some evil personalities, but because falling demand for well-known causes and overproduction.
        Moreover, oil is extracted not only in the Russian Federation and Saudi Arabia. We need uniform rules, and so everyone is drawn to him and you can at least completely reduce production, replace it, lift sanctions from Iran, Venezuela, etc. But nobody needs this, first of all, for our consumers; it is expensive and tedious. Therefore, it is less to make waves in the basin and things will get better. laughing
        1. +1
          April 11 2020 15: 53
          Quote: Alekseev
          The deal came about not just because of some kind of evil personality

          Well, from what, is this persona-Novak, he had hatched plans for increasing production for a long time, but Putin did not give up for a long time (he probably stayed for 2 months), but when you get their brains on the fact that the agreement on restricting production is not profitable, here either Novak resigned (then it was still possible), or give him the opportunity to act. Moreover, as always, if we succeed, we will have a reward, if not, a wall, we are waiting for the second.
      6. +1
        April 10 2020 20: 40
        It lends itself - since the world economy’s demand for oil has sharply decreased due to the coronovirus pandemic, it will stabilize most likely in two years or maybe later.
    13. +2
      April 10 2020 19: 16
      "Mexico announced the US assistance in reducing oil production" ..... no ... Russia lost with a bang ... and it seems that it should reduce production by 10 million barrels. or confusing
      1. -2
        April 10 2020 19: 54
        Quote: Alexander S.
        "Mexico announced US assistance in cutting oil production"

        Read today's news, -
        in the negotiations OPEC + Mexico refused to cut production.
    14. -2
      April 10 2020 19: 20
      He believes that there will be no winners in this battle, everyone will lose.

      And the Yankees themselves are the most profitable, with shale oil profitability not at all at 30 green pounds per barrel, but much higher lol
      That's why they whine laughing
      1. +1
        April 10 2020 19: 45
        Quote: Rurikovich
        And the Yankees themselves are the most profitable, with shale oil profitability not at all at 30 green pounds per barrel, but much higher

        The cost of shale oil before the fall in oil prices in 2014 was about $ 70. But the crisis prompted the shale industry to optimize costs and improve production technology. This allowed to reduce the cost to $ 35-40 per barrel. But technology does not stand still. Even before the current collapse in prices, shale producers set a goal to reduce the cost of oil production to $ 15 per barrel. This is not yet true for all wells. But the downward trend in shale oil production is simply amazing.
        PS Minus is not mine feel
        1. +1
          April 10 2020 20: 45
          And also to reduce the number of rocking chairs from 900 to 600 - despite the multibillion-dollar infusion of unsecured money into this business, they were and will be aground.
          1. +2
            April 10 2020 21: 31
            Quote: Vadim237
            And also to reduce the number of rocking chairs from 900 to 600 - despite the multibillion-dollar infusion of unsecured money into this business, they were and will be aground.

            Vadim, the number of wells is not at all proportional to the amount of oil produced. For your reference, before the collapse of oil prices in 2014, the number of wells in the United States exceeded 1500. The volume of production was less than 9 million barrels per day. At the end of last year, the number of drilled wells was already less than 700 (this is more than 2 times less!), And the volume of oil produced in this case reached an astronomical volume of more than 13 million barrels per day. This is the most in the world! Moreover, over the past year alone, production increased by more than 1 million barrels per day, with an overall significant decrease in the number of wells. This was achieved with the help of continuous improvement of shale oil production technology when a fan of horizontal wells branches out from one vertical wellbore, and the multilevel hydraulic fracturing method is also applied. All this together makes it possible to extract much more oil from each well drilled than before. Technology does not stand still. In the future we will see many more amazing things. The road will be overcome by a walker They are moving forward, despite the difficulties of mastering new technologies. And we?
            1. -5
              April 10 2020 22: 07
              Quote: kjhg
              And we?

              And we forbade them to produce expensive oil, if there is still cheap oil - everything is on the market.
      2. 0
        April 11 2020 14: 28
        Quote: Rurikovich
        in which the profitability of shale oil is not at all at 30 green pounds per barrel, but much higher

        The share of oil revenues in US GDP is 1%. Do you understand everything?
    15. 0
      April 10 2020 19: 23
      The Yankees have tried, are trying and will try. That the relations of the Russian Federation and the KSA do not develop into mutual understanding. Moreover, the Saudis do not like the close relations of the United States and Qatar.
      1. 0
        April 11 2020 01: 55
        Divide and rule. To this postulate hell already knows how many centuries and has not lost relevance.
    16. -4
      April 10 2020 19: 36
      Desires wishful thinking. In his opinion, in order to be influential in the Middle East, Russia should dance to the tune of the Saudis, but the pipes to you, not the dances. It was the Saudis who overestimated their strength and if everything had been under their control, they would not have come up with a proposal to start repeated OPEC + negotiations. And do not forget that the Middle East is not only the Saudis imagining themselves to be great sheikhs and receiving lyuley from the Emen partisans in shales. In any serious crisis, and a serious crisis is brewing now, the Saudis will surrender, they will survive until their time has come, and when the time comes, they will be eaten by the Americans themselves or simply watched by others. And the sheikhs will go from where they came, to prank on camels in the desert, and this is in the best case for them. And this Cook is a typical Americanos, they have 17 million today. new unemployed, the shale is bent, 500 thousand are infected, the Fed begins to monetize junk bonds, etc., and he teaches others how to live, sorry Cook, but Russia does not need your advice because it does not want Russia to do this like now in the usa.
    17. +3
      April 10 2020 19: 38
      What is the touching concern of American Cook about the interests of Russia in the Middle East laughing

      Saudi Arabia, left as a result of a price war without sufficient funds for subsidies to its population, ceased to subsidize Egypt, North Sudan, Pakistan and finance the wars in Syria and Yemen. So it was the KSA, and not the Russian Federation, that the foreign policy positions collapsed.
      1. +7
        April 10 2020 19: 45
        Quote: Operator
        So it was the KSA, and not the Russian Federation, that the foreign policy positions collapsed.

        and what collapsed?
      2. -3
        April 10 2020 20: 06
        Quote: Operator
        What is the touching concern of American Cook about the interests of Russia in the Middle East laughing

        Strange conclusion. This is an analytical article for a domestic (American user). I am sure that both the author and the readers are absolutely not interested in "taking care of the interests of Russia." They are trying to understand what shines from this.
        1. -1
          April 10 2020 20: 12
          The article was written by pulling an owl on a globe, without a single argument, with the identification of the Middle East and Saudi Arabia, which is actually listed among the Gulf countries.

          But for American analytics, it’s alright bully
          1. +4
            April 10 2020 20: 21
            Quote: Operator
            for american analytics and it’s alright

            Well, it’s not good for her. Yes But the local bourgeoisie in all seriousness immediately rushes to suck the topic.fellow laughing
    18. +3
      April 10 2020 19: 44
      Quote: KAV
      And the USA has absolutely nothing to do with it? Are they just standing by and watching?

      want to say that Novak was following Trump's instructions?
      1. +5
        April 10 2020 21: 07
        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: KAV
        And the USA has absolutely nothing to do with it? Are they just standing by and watching?

        want to say that Novak was following Trump's instructions?

        Do not be surprised .. if it was.
    19. +2
      April 10 2020 19: 53
      Russia did the right thing .. did not give some preferential conditions for the production of shale gas .. because the states are tearing and dreaming.
    20. +4
      April 10 2020 19: 57
      Actually, this is Pyrrhic victory for all oil miners! For some, it is obvious, and someone will reap its results in years, but again, it will hit all the miners and oil refiners.
    21. -6
      April 10 2020 19: 58
      So we did everything right, since the Yankees are crowing about this ...
    22. Eug
      0
      April 10 2020 19: 59
      In order to restore the economy, China needs, first of all, paid demand. If it is, there will be no problems with raw materials, at least in the first stages of recovery.
      1. +3
        April 10 2020 20: 20
        Japan is allocating $ 2.5 billion to move production out of China. Many saw the danger of manufacturing dependence on China. The world will face dramatic changes in the "division of labor."
    23. +4
      April 10 2020 20: 07
      in the world of excess oil is produced just as much as Russia pumps either Arabs or even the USA. Therefore, someone must leave.
      And so, according to the mind, perhaps the demarche of the Russian authorities would have made some sense if everyone had played according to some established rules. The situation demonstrates that in Russia there are no people left at the top who can make the right and adequate decision at a difficult time.
      1. +4
        April 10 2020 23: 38
        In your opinion, if
        Quote: AwaZ
        in Russia, there are no people left at the top who can make the right and adequate decision at a difficult time
        with an awesome "logical" conclusion
        Quote: AwaZ
        Therefore, someone must leave.
        of the listed
        Quote: AwaZ
        Russia shakes either Arabs or even the USA
        leave, of course I must ... guess who?
        1. +1
          April 12 2020 07: 25
          everything is very logical for me. If you do not believe me, just turn on the first channel and you will see how the authorities want what would happen, but what is in reality, I think you know ... And reality is this, with what they say on TV, they do not combine at all.
          I understand that some not very adequate invented to knock out American shale oil from the market. The idea is not a bad one if the Arabs and the Americans did not sail in the same boat. And even if they were going to do it anyway, the operation had to be prepared in advance, everything should be thought out. I understand that the February decline was unlikely to greatly affect the price of oil and it would still have to cut production, but at least there would not be such a severe collapse. And even, SUDDENLY, if the Kremlin wanted such a collapse, it would be necessary to continue holding on, even if until the middle of summer, what if we could wait for the surrender of the American shale and force the Arabs to begin to cut back alone and after that they would join when the results go.
          The situation with the virus is the same. The gallant statements of the first days, shut up with an incomprehensible mumble later. The central government withdrew all responsibility and dumped it on the regions, without giving either money or authority. Those who do not know how to think, understand nothing and create a mess and lawlessness, exacerbating the situation.
          I work in the furniture industry. No matter how we enter the list of economies affected by the virus, and even we are allowed to work. However, suppliers of foreigners are closed (Italy, China) domestic suppliers only this Monday will release work. Moscow is closed. NU worked for three days, some products have nothing to complete. It is not possible to sell anything, since all shopping centers are closed. New orders cannot be accepted either, for the same reason.
          Obviously, of course, simple is not due to quarantine measures, we probably can’t work without components ... Do you think so? and on top so ...
    24. -3
      April 10 2020 20: 26
      Kaneshno, in the dupe, the US and Riyadh shale, oh, Moscow was wrong! winked
    25. -5
      April 10 2020 20: 46
      The Saudis played out. Not long they swim in luxury left. The denouement is just around the corner.
    26. -1
      April 10 2020 20: 48
      So go the right way Comrades !!!
    27. 0
      April 10 2020 20: 48
      "...The United States considers the oil war with Saudi Arabia a big mistake for Russia..."
      =======
      AND A BIG TROUBLE for the USA!
    28. +1
      April 10 2020 20: 52
      Something seems to me that the Saudis with Moscow are playing a show. Here and there, contracts, meetings, and time goes and goes. And it seems that there are clearly no culprits, but the processes are running and going.
    29. -4
      April 10 2020 21: 11
      It seems to me that the Russian Federation could use the Yemeni rebels for more productive negotiations with the SA. A couple of launches "assembled on the knee" of the UAV at the terminals ....
    30. +1
      April 10 2020 22: 34
      Another oil price allocation specialist? Today it’s already 5 or 6, but actually it doesn’t matter ............. it’s important that no one really describes what the winner received. China and India received cheap raw materials, and what the CA received from winning, the markets , influence, additional funds to the budget and again not.
      1. 0
        April 10 2020 22: 57
        Here, what articles do you read ... in some Putin won everything, in others he lost everything ..... So far, the dollar has gone down, and thanks for that.
    31. 0
      April 11 2020 05: 34
      In the USA, the oil war with Saudi Arabia is considered a big mistake of Russia - given that in reality the United States merged Russia and Saudi Arabia)
    32. 0
      April 11 2020 08: 20
      Herein lies the whole serpentine character of the striped ones, they will do the work themselves, and then they will bring it down from a sick head to a healthy one. And their main goal is to crush all of us, all over the world. They should be crushed at the slightest opportunity, these insolents with the cowboy mentality.
    33. -3
      April 11 2020 09: 22
      The United States considers the oil war with Saudi Arabia a big mistake for Russia

      If the United States thinks so, then we are doing everything right ... Hold on to the last!
    34. -1
      April 11 2020 15: 34
      Quote: Antique
      Thank you for the standard response of the activist. Everything is as it should according to the template. With the usual ending. Why are your manuals not updated? Defect.

      Your letters look like crazy nonsense. Do you really think that in this way you work as an “agent of influence”?
      There are only two options:
      1. You are an animator from the site administration to increase commentability of articles and get more dough.
      2. Terrifying in its wretchedness the state of the "propaganda department of the neighboring state."
    35. -1
      April 12 2020 08: 35
      "War" between Russia and OPEC (read - the Saudis) - a match by agreement. Its main goal is to show the USA that no one will allow them to stay in the position of a monkey in a tree for a long time, watching the fight of tigers below and throwing banana skins at them.
      The Saudis are heavily politically dependent on the Americans, so they could not independently arrange price dumping. Russia gave them a reason. The states were worried, as required. Now, even if the US does not officially participate in OPEC +, they will no longer be able to act without any regard for other participants in the oil market. And then ... it will be possible to repeat the lesson.
      1. 0
        April 15 2020 16: 47
        Yes, the Americans alone will not do with banana skins. I had to get down from a palm tree and reconcile tigers, who, perhaps, didn’t seriously fight.
    36. +1
      April 12 2020 10: 26
      Yeah, Akella missed. And coronovirus, if not by the way .. Yes, and the lack of a normal economy is also not by the way. Putin's integration policy has failed in times of crisis and pandemic.
      I don’t think that the aging leader is capable of constructive steps, he would have to wait until it stops, and then calls came in one after another, and his snickering vassals who have everything got moving, got used to it.
    37. 0
      April 12 2020 12: 23
      “They think in the USA” - and not only in the USA, only in Russia they think that this is another multi-move.
    38. 0
      April 12 2020 14: 52
      If the Americans did not like the oil war, then Putin is doing everything right.

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