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Poland demanded to return the wreckage of the Kaczynski plane

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Poland demanded to return the wreckage of the Kaczynski plane

Poland demanded that Russia return the wreckage of the Tu-154M aircraft, in the crash of which Polish President Lech Kaczynski died in 2010 near Smolensk. The corresponding note was sent to the Russian Embassy by the Polish Foreign Ministry.


Warsaw demands “immediately” to return Polish property, which refers to the wreckage of the aircraft, since Russia illegally holds them.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs handed over a note to the Russian Embassy urging the Russian side to immediately give out Polish property - the wreckage of the Tu-154M plane ... Not a single rule of international law gives grounds for Russia to hold Polish property

- stated in the Polish Foreign Ministry.

The Russian Foreign Ministry noted that this is not the first time that Poland has received a note to give out the wreckage of a plane; Warsaw is constantly demanding that "Polish property" be returned. In turn, Russia does not intend to hand over the wreckage of the aircraft to Poland, since they are physical evidence and, according to Russian law, must be in a criminal case before the investigation is completed.

Recall that the Polish presidential Tu-154M plane crashed while landing at Smolensk airport on April 10, 2010. All 96 people on board, including Polish President Lech Kaczynski, died. The cause of the crash is a crew error.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 10 2020 15: 03 New
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    However, they can’t take arrogance ... They will wait ... They will wipe themselves and wait ...
    1. Mebius
      Mebius April 10 2020 15: 07 New
      16
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      However, they can’t take arrogance ... They will wait ... They will wipe themselves and wait ...

      Yes, dispose of them, as they are our monuments to the fallen Soviet soldiers! hi
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre April 10 2020 15: 29 New
        14
        Or return. But only with the memorial and the exhumed government. So that there were no reasons to return to this territory.
        1. Mebius
          Mebius April 10 2020 15: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: abrakadabre
          Or return. But only with the memorial and the exhumed government. So that there were no reasons to return to this territory.

          It’s not worth thinking that a Russophobian memorial will be built there from these remains .. And in general, then all of our remaining monuments will be completely desecrated .. Let everything be held hostage, just in case ..
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 April 10 2020 22: 08 New
            +1
            Is there still an investigation?
            belay
            1. KARAKURT15
              KARAKURT15 April 11 2020 12: 06 New
              0
              An investigation is underway, and the reason is the pilot’s mistake! laughing
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 10 2020 15: 39 New
          +5
          They will find another reason and reason to squabble
          Well, they have such a foreign policy. And it’s necessary to work out the State Department cookies
          1. Mebius
            Mebius April 10 2020 16: 29 New
            +1
            Quote: Lipchanin
            They will find another reason and reason to squabble
            Well, they have such a foreign policy. And it’s necessary to work out the State Department cookies

            They will find of course, but you should not give it back .. Let them bark, as it’s calmer in my soul .. It’s worse when they shut up and start praising Sergey! Then you need to beware and dig trenches throughout Russia and wait for Minin with Pozharsky hi
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin April 10 2020 16: 36 New
              +1
              Quote: Mobius
              They will find of course, but you should not give ..

              No way. Even such a thought should not arise
              Then you need to beware and dig trenches throughout Russia and wait for Minin with Pozharsky

              Yes, no trenches are needed. 21 century in the yard. A couple of dozen preemptive strikes with precision weapons and in the place of Pshekia will be another sea
              1. Mebius
                Mebius April 10 2020 16: 39 New
                +2
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Yes, no trenches are needed. 21 century in the yard. A couple of dozen preemptive strikes with precision weapons and in the place of Pshekia will be another sea

                And still you need to dig up just in case ... God saves God! hi Matches salt, cartridges .. drinks
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin April 10 2020 16: 41 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Mobius
                  Still, you need to dig up just in case.

                  Why do we need a protracted war?
                  Quickly slammed and again on the sofa laughing
                  1. Mebius
                    Mebius April 10 2020 16: 51 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    Why do we need a protracted war?
                    Quickly slammed and again on the sofa

                    I agree ! laughing And there is nothing to add to the imperial ambitions of our Russian souls ... good
                    And then the trenches are hard to dig clay land ..)))
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin April 10 2020 17: 36 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Mobius
                      And then the trenches are hard to dig clay soil.

                      Banderlog prisoners dug up, if necessary.
                      They don’t get used, they dug the whole sea laughing
              2. PalBor
                PalBor April 10 2020 16: 57 New
                +4
                One preemptive strike was already delivered in April 1940. We can repeat it.
                1. nemez
                  nemez April 10 2020 20: 44 New
                  +2
                  Great man, he knew where to plant it.
        3. 4ekist
          4ekist April 10 2020 16: 15 New
          +6
          На смоленщине только памятник стоит, а захоронения находятся в Польше:Лех и Мария Качиньские были погребены в Кафедральном соборе королевского замка Вавель в Кракове. На варшавском кладбище "Повонзки" были похоронены 28 жертв авиакатастрофы.
          And let the remains of the previously executed Poles, if they want to exhume and take to themselves along with the monuments, they are superfluous. This will be fair. And let them not dare to demand anything, this is not the right place.
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 10 2020 15: 36 New
        +6
        Quote: Mobius
        Yes, dispose of them, as they are our monuments to the fallen Soviet soldiers!

        And then they will say that we destroyed evidence that indicates the involvement of the Russian Federation in the death of their president
        Do you need this?
        1. Mebius
          Mebius April 10 2020 16: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: Mobius
          Yes, dispose of them, as they are our monuments to the fallen Soviet soldiers!

          And then they will say that we destroyed evidence that indicates the involvement of the Russian Federation in the death of their president
          Do you need this?

          And we won’t tell them about it ..)))) Their president’s alcohol level exceeded all norms and that of the Minister of Defense .. They keep quiet about it and whoever steered a liner over Russia
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin April 10 2020 17: 38 New
            +2
            Quote: Mobius
            .About this, they are silent and whoever drove the liner over Russia

            Yes in turn laughing
      3. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose April 10 2020 17: 04 New
        +3
        Quote: Mobius
        Yes recycle them

        All the Poles? winked Nice thought! wink
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    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 10 2020 15: 07 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      However, they can’t take arrogance ... They will wait ... They will wipe themselves and wait ...

      And do not occupy stupid things either.
      Just give them the wreckage - they will immediately find traces of an explosive device with fingerprints and Putin’s signature on the wreckage ...

      But who might not understand this? Only the Poles. Chronic ...
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt April 10 2020 15: 35 New
        +4
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Only the Poles. Chronic ...

        Да уж, "хронический поляк", это действительно диагноз. Сейчас многие национальности, в силу заявлений своих правительств, приобрели сомнительную репутацию психического расстройства. Скажи мне свою национальность и я скажу тебе, степень твоей адекватности. Скажите глупость? Нет, реальность.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A April 10 2020 15: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: orionvitt
          Say stupid? No, the reality.

          Completely good .
          Only I did not think that a nationality with a diagnosis of SO go hand in hand ... There it is ...
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt April 10 2020 15: 45 New
            +1
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            There it is ...

            Ещё как так. "Назвался груздем, полезай в кузов". Грубый пример. Если вы называете себя украинцем, эстонцем, грузином латышом, и так далее, то вы просто обязаны ненавидеть Россию, в силу действующей национальной доктрины. Иначе, тебя свои же заклюют.
    3. Terenin
      Terenin April 10 2020 15: 24 New
      +6
      нота с требованием выдать обломки самолета поступает от Польши не в первый раз, Варшава постоянно требует вернуть "польскую собственность".
      recalls the morning habits of an alcoholic (people's commissar) who have only one thought - a hangover, a dose and a jamb.
      So give them, with their inappropriate behavior, these wreckage fool Well, here's how later, on the fingers to prove that birch in Russia is not a type of SAM No.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A April 10 2020 15: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: Terenin
        Well, here's how later, on the fingers to prove that birch in Russia is not a type of SAM

        Рядом пример - попробуйте Украине доказать, что "Грабли" - это не секретное российское оружие, разработанное специально против Украины, а не просто грабли...
        1. Terenin
          Terenin April 10 2020 15: 58 New
          +7
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Quote: Terenin
          Well, here's how later, on the fingers to prove that birch in Russia is not a type of SAM

          Рядом пример - попробуйте Украине доказать, что "Грабли" - это не секретное российское оружие, разработанное специально против Украины, а не просто грабли...

          winked From the Russian side, they interpret the rake as a type of shock-offensive weapons, and from the European side, as forward to a brighter future

        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 10 2020 16: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Рядом пример - попробуйте Украине доказать, что "Грабли" - это не секретное российское оружие, разработанное специально против Украины,

          Weapon yes
      2. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose April 10 2020 17: 20 New
        +3
        Quote: Terenin
        Well, here's how later, on the fingers to prove that birch in Russia is not a type of SAM

        Almost impossible. They won’t believe anything. Traditions, however. Botanike.
        "Сосна"; "Верба"; "Пальма", а уж "Березе" сам бог велел.
    4. Finches
      Finches April 10 2020 16: 27 New
      -1
      Actually, TU - this property of ours, which was rented by the Poles, gave them a ride, and they ditched it! So it would be necessary to repair the damage ... laughing
    5. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 10 2020 16: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      However, they can’t take arrogance ... They will wait ... They will wipe themselves and wait ...

      Большой хозяин потребовал, чтобы сфабриковать такое же дело, как с "Боингом".
    6. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 10 2020 17: 19 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      However, they can’t take arrogance ... They will wait ... They will wipe themselves and wait ...

      Ножками топнуть забыли и полосатого дядьку подключить. Хотя ему сейчас тоже не до польских "панов". Своих забот полон рот.
      1. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy April 10 2020 18: 11 New
        0
        The criminal case has not yet been closed. Ours is still counting how many trees their plane has flunked to show the amount of damage to the Poles. hi
  2. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 10 2020 15: 04 New
    +7
    Apparently they want to hand over scrap.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 10 2020 16: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Apparently they want to hand over scrap.

      And now the color road ...
      I don’t know the price, but I think that enough for the whole Polish government for a month and a half. If we have a janitor manages to soviet Soviet aluminum tank for the first (20-30 liters) week to drink.
  3. iouris
    iouris April 10 2020 15: 07 New
    10
    The only condition: the official authorities of Poland must officially acknowledge the results of the investigation. All. There is nothing in the text about this.
    1. DMB 75
      DMB 75 April 10 2020 15: 45 New
      +8
      Yes! And the question is closed. And let them take it.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon April 10 2020 17: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: DMB 75
        And let them take it.

        Press into a briquette and give.
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 April 10 2020 15: 08 New
    +4
    The question is, is the investigation not finished?
    1. Mebius
      Mebius April 10 2020 15: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      The question is, is the investigation not finished?

      The consequence is not important to them, the main thing is hysteria of Russophobia, they pay well for this .. soldier
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 10 2020 17: 48 New
        0
        Quote: Mobius
        The consequence is not important to them.

        About Polish, purely zealous, there are no questions. Those to send on, such as kanopachikovoy dachas and to regale haloperodolom ....
        The question is that there are generally accepted procedures, rules, in the investigation of aircraft accidents! It is necessary to act strictly according to the protocol !!! Then you can safely send anyone and anywhere.
        To that, the question was asked.
    2. askort154
      askort154 April 10 2020 16: 34 New
      +3
      rocket757 .... Question, but is the investigation not finished?

      No. In 2015, power changed in Poland, the brother of the deceased Kaczynski came.
      Он отстранил польскую группу расследования и назначил новую. Начались их внутренние разборки, потому как Качинский "уверен", что его брата взорвали. (раз не смогли доказать вину
      Russia, what they originally sought).
      В этом направлении они до сих пор и "расследуют", не соглашаясь с выводами нашей комиссии. Теперь затребовали останки самолёта, чтобы "найти следы взрывчатки". Наше следствие уже заколебалось с ними работать. Те постоянно требуют новые и новые акты и доказательства. Наши им послали уже более 40 ответов на их надуманные запросы. Наши правильно делают, не отдавая им останки самолёта. И их "требования" не законны. Отдать можно только после окончания расследования и решения суда, по данной катастрофе. hi
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 10 2020 16: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: askort154
        You can give it back only after the investigation and the court’s decision on this disaster.

        Как только отдадут полякам обломки "Тушки", так там сразу найдут и следы взрывчатки и отпечатки пальцев Павлова и Баширова.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. April 10 2020 17: 33 New
          0
          What kind of explosives? With such pilots, neither explosives nor air defense systems are needed.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 10 2020 17: 54 New
            +1
            Let's not talk about the dead badly. They had a special contingent on the plane. Just out of luck.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine April 10 2020 18: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              Let's not talk about the dead badly.

              I feel sorry for the pilots, condolences.
            2. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. April 10 2020 18: 11 New
              0
              Какое уж тут везение, когда экипаж совершил целую цепочку ошибок Летящий перед ними польский Як-40 сел с большим трудом, а Ту-154 это далеко не "окурок", это сложная в пилотировании машина. Было бы чудом, если бы они нормально приземлились.
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 April 10 2020 17: 52 New
          0
          Everything is strictly according to the rules, according to the protocol.
          The investigation is not finished! There are no questions, send, send again, send to the final address!
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 April 10 2020 17: 49 New
        0
        This is the ANSWER to my question. All clear. Thank.
    3. iouris
      iouris April 10 2020 17: 42 New
      +1
      The investigation was completed in 2010, on the Polish side, the competent authorities participated in the investigation. An act based on the results of the commission's work has been signed. And then those who came to power came to power, and it began ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 10 2020 17: 58 New
        +1
        All the same, after the investigation there must be a court! Only he has the right to put all the points over E!
        As I understand it, the primary conclusions of the commission, the investigation, were protested by the Polish side ... then you have to understand that the investigation is ongoing.
        1. hhurik
          hhurik April 10 2020 23: 00 New
          0
          Who intend to attract as the defendant is very curious? fool
  5. Proton
    Proton April 10 2020 15: 08 New
    +5
    Right now, at least give a piece back, they’ll start to fuck you all over the world request
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 10 2020 15: 47 New
      10
      Quote: Proton
      Right now, at least give a piece back, they’ll start to fuck you all over the world request

      And we remember the used yellow-black handkerchief (what, I apologize, and to whom did they wipe it?), And we remember the tin from the warehouse too ...
  6. Fitter
    Fitter April 10 2020 15: 08 New
    18
    Let these Psheks go to battle, along with the Bulgars and Czechoslovakians.
    Давно пора снести нахрен "мемориалы" в Катыни, памятники "чехословацкому корпусу" и болгарским педерастам, воевавшим за гитлера .
    For why can they, but not us?
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre April 10 2020 15: 31 New
      +4
      Давно пора снести нахрен "мемориалы" в Катыни, памятники "чехословацкому корпусу" и болгарским педерастам, воевавшим за гитлера .
      Tender or cynical - with bulldozers and on camera? smile
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A April 10 2020 15: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: abrakadabre
        Давно пора снести нахрен "мемориалы" в Катыни, памятники "чехословацкому корпусу" и болгарским педерастам, воевавшим за гитлера .
        Tender or cynical - with bulldozers and on camera? smile
        И отправить наших "Гозманов" и "Амнуэлей" торговать осколками в виде сувениров (деньги в бюджет РФ, а "продавцам" - зарплату и рабочий день продавцов в "Магните"). Они же осколками Берлинской стены на сувениры торговали. По объёму "сувениров" там проданных осколков, наверное, на четыре стены хватило бы.
      2. Fitter
        Fitter April 11 2020 12: 04 New
        0
        Естественно "цинично", что бы никто не сомневался.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 10 2020 15: 40 New
      +5
      Quote: Fitter
      Давно пора снести нахрен "мемориалы" в Катыни,

      Двумя руками "ЗА"
      And do not give, as the Czechs do not give us a monument to Marshal Konev
    3. Ravil_Asnafovich
      Ravil_Asnafovich April 10 2020 16: 20 New
      +2
      And the Hungarians in Voronezh?
      1. Fitter
        Fitter April 11 2020 12: 05 New
        0
        And this is the same, for neher.
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 10 2020 17: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: Fitter
      For why can they, but not us?

      Yes, because in the same place as in our country, communist governments were overthrown, and politicians oriented or set by the West came to power. And no matter how they say it, but the 1st - 2nd Army of the Polish Army and the 1st Czechoslovak Army Corps as part of the Red Army and part of the Bulgarian Army also fought against Hitler. What also need to curse and humiliate them? They, too, at home, are not paid tribute.
      But here we are erecting monuments to the Czechoslovak Legion, which played the main role in the overthrow of Soviet power in the Far East of 1918. And we put monuments to them.
      This one stands on the station square in Chelyabinsk

      Today, monuments to legionaries have been erected in other cities. Moreover, as historian Viktor Dimiulin rightly remarked, if “in Vladivostok, Yekaterinburg, Krasnoyarsk, Syzran and a number of other places, monuments to white whales stand in cemeteries (where they are supposed to be, in fact) and are visible only to those who visit these places of sorrow, then in Chelyabinsk, Penza, Pugachev and Verkhny Uslon they are located in very crowded places. ”
      Monument inscriptions are also noteworthy. At a monument in Chelyabinsk it is stated: “Czechoslovak soldiers, brave fighters for the freedom and independence of their land, Russia and all Slavs are resting here. In brotherly land they gave their lives for the revival of mankind. Bare your heads before the grave of heroes. " And what can I say ???
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth April 10 2020 22: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And what can I say ???

        A wreath was laid from Vladimir Putin today.
      2. malyvalv
        malyvalv April 11 2020 01: 12 New
        +1
        Well, the whites need to demolish everything. They drank Russian blood.
      3. Fitter
        Fitter April 11 2020 12: 07 New
        0
        "также воевали 1 я - 2 я Армии Войска Польского и 1 й Чехословацкий армейский корпус в составе РККА и части Болгарской армии. Их что тоже нужно проклинать и унижать ?" Естественно НЕТ.
        "А вот у нас ставят памятники Чехословацкому легиону, который сынрал основную роль в свержении Советской власти на Дальнем востоке 1918 года" А вот этот памятник снести именно сейчас и, что бы в 3D снят процесс был - уродам на память.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 11 2020 13: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: Fitter
          But this monument should be demolished right now and that the process would be filmed in 3D - freaks as a keepsake.

          Demolish everything, this is not one monument. For about ten years, the Ministry of Defense of the Czech Republic has been implementing its Legion 100 project in Russia, erecting monuments to soldiers and officers of the Czechoslovak Corps who died during the Civil War. A total of 58 monuments are planned to be installed in the Russian Federation. Some of them have already been erected.

          On October 20, 2011, in Chelyabinsk, at the forecourt square, with the participation of the Czech Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary to Russia Peter Kolarge, other Czech, as well as Slovak and Russian officials, the monument was solemnly unveiled to the legionaries. It was erected next to the monument "The Tale of the Urals", which is an urban symbol. They put up their monuments in Russia with the permission of the Russian authorities, and our monuments are demolished without permission.
    5. malyvalv
      malyvalv April 11 2020 01: 09 New
      +2
      It is better to put a monument to Stalin in Katyn. It will be more effective.
      1. Fitter
        Fitter April 11 2020 12: 08 New
        0
        First, a bulldozer, and then at the Monument to Stalin :)
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 11 2020 13: 55 New
        0
        Quote: malyvalv
        It is better to put a monument to Stalin in Katyn. It will be more effective.

        It would be better to erect a monument to the Russian soldier who died in German concentration camps, which were not one or two in those places.
  7. Mouse
    Mouse April 10 2020 15: 17 New
    +5
    give, then catch up and give again .....
  8. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 10 2020 15: 25 New
    +8
    Goofy stupid, you will demand from the wife, and politely ask people.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 10 2020 15: 43 New
      +4
      Quote: Ros 56
      Goofy stupid, you will demand from the wife, and politely ask people.

      They would try to demand from the hegemon laughing
      But why they do not require them to give the lions, I do not understand request
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist April 10 2020 16: 23 New
        +1
        Do not worry, the time will come to Lviv. Psheks have too big ambitions; they have not been landed in the shit by their faces for a long time.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 10 2020 16: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: 4ekist
          Do not worry, the time will come to Lviv.

          Yes, quickly. Maybe then they will leave us alone
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 11 2020 13: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Lipchanin
        But why they do not require them to give the lions, I do not understand

        Truly Polish city, and not only Lviv.
  9. kit88
    kit88 April 10 2020 15: 37 New
    12
    Ваша "нота" очень важна для нас.
    Please stay on the line, the first free operator will answer you.
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 10 2020 15: 42 New
      +6
      And the anthem of Russia (the Soviet Union) plays endlessly in the pipe laughing
  10. Amateur
    Amateur April 10 2020 15: 44 New
    +3
    As soon as the debris is returned to them, they will immediately find fingerprints of Putin, Shoigu, Kabaeva and Alisher Usmanov on them!
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 April 11 2020 07: 22 New
      -2
      And suddenly, ours and you will find, here it will be. lol
      1. Amateur
        Amateur April 11 2020 07: 24 New
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        And suddenly, ours and you will find, here it will be.

        Korovominus?
        1. Ros 56
          Ros 56 April 11 2020 07: 32 New
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          Well, minus then I see, have already fussed.
  11. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith April 10 2020 15: 47 New
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    Пся кревы снова пердят "нотами".
    It remains to dig out the late president once more for the amusement of the public.
  12. AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. April 10 2020 15: 51 New
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    Send them brooms. Birch trees.
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  14. bubalik
    bubalik April 10 2020 16: 16 New
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    Poland demanded

    ,,, one is not clear request why amid all requirements Russia continues to help recourse
    Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Moravecki said on Facebook that the Russian An-124 brought medical masks and protective overalls to the country.

    As noted, the An-124 aircraft landed at Okeche airport. On board are 6 million medical masks and 70 thousand protective overalls.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 11 2020 14: 08 New
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      Quote: bubalik
      one thing is not clear why, against the background of all requirements, Russia continues to help

      We do not help, this is a plane of a Russian airline chartered by the Poles who delivered the goods from China.
      1. bubalik
        bubalik April 11 2020 16: 25 New
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        Thank you for explaining this situation.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS April 10 2020 16: 22 New
    +1
    I think I’ll never see the wreckage for them, well, under this power, for sure. The Poles will immediately arrange an anti-Russian coven around them, but until they get the wreckage they behave a little restrained. Sitting in the warm chair of the Minister of Defense of Poland, there were already attempts to find explosives on the plane ... ..............
  16. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich April 10 2020 16: 24 New
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    Well, let Gdansk, Germany will be given.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 11 2020 14: 19 New
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      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      Well, let Gdansk, Germany will be given.

      Yes, and Stettin also needs to be picked up, where by the way the Empress Catherine the Great was born to the Stettinsky Castle.
  17. Cowbra
    Cowbra April 10 2020 16: 30 New
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    Well, they want debris - we’ll break it off for how long. By the way, are you going to visit anymore? At the same time, we can show the Susanin path - it should also be valuable to you
  18. AB
    AB April 10 2020 16: 39 New
    +2
    Варшава требует "немедленно" вернуть польскую собственность, под которой имеются в виду обломки самолета

    И тут же окажется, что при 1000 осмотре обломков (естественно уже без представителей России) "эксперты" из Польши, США, Англии и самого компетентного эксперта в авиаавариях Украины, обнаружат следы ВВ, заложенного русскими в аэропорту вылета или отверстия от попадания ПЗРК, а то Бук-М1.
  19. Chersky
    Chersky April 10 2020 16: 42 New
    +2
    I read the comments. Ndaaa ...
    А можно вопрос: а почему действительно не отдать им обломки? Что, не закончено расследование? Я думаю, за столько лет там все уже "выжали".
    Начнут "лепить" на детали самолета следы взрывчатки? А нам не похрен? Нас в чем только не обвиняли.
    1. Andrey Gurenkov
      Andrey Gurenkov April 10 2020 21: 55 New
      0
      So I don’t understand either. Cho did not return. After all, they returned the Boeing which crashed on the Donbas, and then ... They will continue to speculate and continue
  20. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 10 2020 17: 01 New
    +1
    Poland demanded to return the wreckage of the Kaczynski plane

    We must return to them everything that can be collected from the burial, so that they no longer fly here. On our land, so there is already no place ...
  21. cniza
    cniza April 10 2020 17: 01 New
    +1
    Poland demanded to return the wreckage of the Kaczynski plane


    Demand in your kitchen ...
  22. Yurahip
    Yurahip April 10 2020 18: 33 New
    0
    Psheks of RDX will be poured onto the wreckage and will yell about the attack on board!
  23. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter April 10 2020 18: 34 New
    +1
    Not even six months have passed ...
    Someone I did not finish. The investigation to this day is going on?!.
    What fragments, why are they. Who will become easier?! ..
  24. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey April 10 2020 19: 34 New
    0
    everything is correct, they themselves (Poles) do not want to close the deal !!!
  25. dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 10 2020 21: 40 New
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    Quote: abrakadabre
    Or return. But only with the memorial and the exhumed government. So that there were no reasons to return to this territory.

    This case is an investigation of the causes of the disaster, it must be conducted forever. And keep these fragments forever.
    In order to prevent the possibility of falsification of reasons. While they are with us, they are inviolable. And the reasons are given by the Pshekis themselves - they do not participate in the investigation of the case, doing political insinuations.
  26. Andrey Gurenkov
    Andrey Gurenkov April 10 2020 21: 51 New
    +1
    And why actually don’t give? I understand that the country is not friendly. But they would let them choke. What is the hindrance? The plane will still be them. Legally, do we have to return the wreckage or not?
    1. hhurik
      hhurik April 10 2020 23: 20 New
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      Of course not. The investigation of the criminal case should be carried out fully, comprehensively and objectively. This is the responsibility of the competent authorities of Russia, since the disaster occurred on the territory of the Russian Federation. Considering that on the part of the criminal trial participant, the evidence obtained and the circumstances to be proved during the proceedings are rejected and disputed - additional time is required for their investigation and verification.
      The wreckage of the aircraft, etc., is attached to the materials of the criminal case as material evidence and is not transferable anywhere until a final decision on the merits is made. And the duration of the investigation - can be extended forever, until the truth is established.
      Here is such a funny perdimonocle.
      1. Andrey Gurenkov
        Andrey Gurenkov April 10 2020 23: 40 New
        +1
        And who then gave up the wreckage of a downed Boeing?
        1. hhurik
          hhurik April 10 2020 23: 58 New
          0
          Whom? The Iranians did not give anything.
          1. Andrey Gurenkov
            Andrey Gurenkov April 11 2020 09: 36 New
            +1
            I'm talking about a downed Boeing over Donbass
          2. Andrey Gurenkov
            Andrey Gurenkov April 15 2020 11: 08 New
            +1
            so what ? Ukrainians or the DNI or the Russian Federation gave up the wreckage of a Boeing (I don’t know who exactly) when someone knocked it down (was there a decision made by whom?), but we don’t give it to the Psheks?
  27. ANB
    ANB April 10 2020 23: 47 New
    0
    And why is our prosecutor's office flapping ears?
    The Poles need to file a lawsuit for the damaged forest.
    The guilt is clear: the management of high-risk drunk driving, resulting in an accident, multiple casualties and property damage.
    Since the damage is clearly large, it is possible to initiate a criminal case.
  28. dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 11 2020 01: 05 New
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    Quote: hhurik
    Of course not. The investigation of the criminal case should be carried out fully, comprehensively and objectively. This is the responsibility of the competent authorities of Russia, since the disaster occurred on the territory of the Russian Federation. Considering that on the part of the criminal trial participant, the evidence obtained and the circumstances to be proved during the proceedings are rejected and disputed - additional time is required for their investigation and verification.
    The wreckage of the aircraft, etc., is attached to the materials of the criminal case as material evidence and is not transferable anywhere until a final decision on the merits is made. And the duration of the investigation - can be extended forever, until the truth is established.
    Here is such a funny perdimonocle.

    And the Poles themselves are guilty of this round dance. If they were interested in clarifying the TRUTH, and would have taken part in the investigation of the incident, had not put sticks in the wheels, and not glued political nonsense to the event, it would have been possible to finish these dances for a long time.
    Но "верность слову" этих петухов с крыльями, известна. Отсюда и стремление наше оставить осколки у себя, дабы эти не сплясали на костях своих граждан мазурку. Чтобы в очередной раз нагадить. Время есть. Его впереди невиданное количество.....
  29. dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 11 2020 01: 08 New
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    Quote: ANB
    And why is our prosecutor's office flapping ears?
    The Poles need to file a lawsuit for the damaged forest.
    The guilt is clear: the management of high-risk drunk driving, resulting in an accident, multiple casualties and property damage.
    Since the damage is clearly large, it is possible to initiate a criminal case.

    Yes you give up. Look like a small flea with your proposal. To stoop to that.
  30. dubovitskiy.1947
    dubovitskiy.1947 April 11 2020 01: 13 New
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    Quote: Benzorez
    Not even six months have passed ...
    Someone I did not finish. The investigation to this day is going on?!.
    What fragments, why are they. Who will become easier?! ..

    To find the lines from the felt-tip pen made by the Russian spy in the port of Warsaw in order to show where to shoot the beech. To not miss, what else. You are not enough idiot on the podium of the EU with the door of a bus blown up by terrorists in the Donbass? There will be another with a broken wing, showing. like Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov, awake shot in the wrong direction.
  31. gsev
    gsev April 11 2020 04: 00 New
    0
    Russia has a reason to demand from Poland to return the monuments to Soviet soldiers on the basis of reciprocity?
  32. Karaul14
    Karaul14 April 11 2020 06: 31 New
    0
    Why is Russia so stubbornly unwilling to transfer debris? - There is something to hide.

    Russia does not intend to hand over the wreckage to Poland so far, as they are material evidence and, according to Russian law, must be located before the investigation is completed
    Pff, what an investigation, the author has already decided everything.
    The cause of the crash is a crew error.
  33. KARAKURT15
    KARAKURT15 April 11 2020 12: 03 New
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    [/ quote] In turn, Russia does not intend to hand over the wreckage of the aircraft to Poland, as they are physical evidence and, according to Russian law, must be in a criminal case before the investigation is completed.


    Why then this conclusion?

    The cause of the crash is a crew error. [Quote]
  34. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov April 11 2020 15: 20 New
    0
    The Poles impede the investigation and closure of the criminal case. As soon as the case is completed, the Poles will receive a copy of it along with the wreckage. Dot!!!