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The war between Russia and the United States (Politics, Serbia)

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The war between Russia and the United States (Politics, Serbia)For some time now, the war between the USA and Russia that has not been declared by anyone has continued. This war is merciless, although neither John nor Sergey perishes on it.

Death assigned to the Syrians. They are bloodied, ready to shoot at each other, throw bombs, commit crimes, be “cannon fodder”.

Global players are “horrified” at this time, they are calling press conferences, calling on the UN to hold a meeting of the Security Council (of course, behind closed doors) to say at the end that they have nothing to say.

The Americans support the rebels against Bashar al-Assad and want to overthrow him, while the Russians are convinced that this would be the beginning of real chaos.

It is important to keep your hands clean.

From Washington comes the news that the US Congress, claiming a new military budget, has banned the Pentagon from cooperating with the Russian monopoly on the sale weapons - Rosoboronexport.

The reason for this decision was that the Russian government supplies weapons to the authorities in Damascus, which is contrary to American interests. It is not reported what exactly American interests are, but it is worth recalling that the same Rosoboronexport almost a month ago became one of the main suppliers of the US Army at another hot spot - in Afghanistan.

What are the interests of the United States there - is also not specified.

Russia and China once again vetoed a Western draft resolution of the UN Security Council, which threatened the Syrian regime with sanctions. According to Moscow’s position, the Western countries with the above-mentioned document only wanted to justify possible military intervention in Syria, according to the Libyan scenario.

“Their attempts to use the UN Council to implement their plans and put pressure on sovereign states will not pass,” said Vitaly Churkin, the representative of Russia in this organization.

Syria has undoubtedly become a regional arena, where the real strength of the United States and Russia is once again being demonstrated. The classical division of the era of the Cold War into "West" and "East" is hardly appropriate in this case, since it is already quite clear that everyone who is outside of Washington and Moscow plays the role of more or less active supporters in the Syrian case.

This is evidenced by the recent visit of the UN special envoy for Syria Kofi Annan to Moscow, which ended in a sluggish message that can in no way affect the course of events.

The war in Syria produced different concepts of international relations, each of which is suitable only for superpowers.

Americans, using the theme of "human rights", give themselves the right to interfere wherever they have interests - even in the courtyard of Bashar al-Assad.

For Russians, a very clear position is that its overthrow would open the door to the implementation of the so-called concept of regime change, which undoubtedly represents a threat to the traditional business interests of Russian companies in various parts of the world, including in the Middle East.

In this "mini-cold war", which, unlike the wars of the Soviet Union, has no ideological character, the weapon is not selected. Anything well. The media, of course, is one of them.

To declare any armed conflict “the extermination of civilians” is a tactic that always gives a good result. Even if, ultimately, the truth floats to the surface. Thus, information and misinformation appeared about what happened two weeks ago in the Syrian city of Tremsehu where, according to the first news from London, 200 civilians, women and children were killed, and after a few days it turned out that it was a clash of soldiers Assad with deserters. The effect of the first message was still significant.

As the analyst of the Polish newspaper Global Politics recently wrote, the unfortunate people in Syria - like their comrades in misfortune in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan - are beginning to realize that they are only a tool in the hands of powerful powers seeking to realize their interests on the battlefield.

The question is whether they can change anything on their own. It is clear that neither America nor Russia will facilitate their current situation.
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  1. Dmitriy69
    Dmitriy69 28 July 2012 06: 20
    +16
    It can be called an unbiased opinion from the outside.
    1. esaul
      esaul 28 July 2012 07: 54
      +13
      Quote: Dmitriy69
      Can be called an unbiased opinion from

      Dima, welcome. No, buddy - bias (which I personally, in this article, is impressive) is present and goes through at least in the epithets of contrasting the methods and goals of the USA and the Russian Federation

      Americans, using the theme of “human rights,” give themselves the right to intervene wherever they have interests - even to the courtyard of Bashar al-Assad

      The arrogance of states invading even Assad’s courtyard is noteworthy here.
      This is about the states ... Agree, the words contain a certain amount of condemnation. And about Russia

      For Russians, a very clear position is that its overthrow would open the door to the implementation of the so-called concept of regime change, which undoubtedly represents a threat to the traditional business interests of Russian companies in various parts of the world, including in the Middle East.

      Here, but I think you should pay attention to the words "very clear position"
      1. Dmitriy69
        Dmitriy69 28 July 2012 09: 59
        +7
        Quote: esaul
        No, buddy - bias (which I personally, in this article, is impressive) is present and goes through at least in the epithets of contrasting the methods and goals of the USA and the Russian Federation

        I do not agree, it seemed to you because it is very unusual to read the truth in the press. The author simply called things by their proper names, and everyone already sees a bias in our direction.
        There is no bias.
      2. dreamer
        dreamer 28 July 2012 10: 06
        +5
        Not yet accustomed to the amers that Russia is increasingly actively pursuing its policy in the international arena. In general, it’s understandable for 20 years of impunity, we felt like the leaders of the world and suddenly don’t understand who gets in the way ... And I’m sure that Russia was now in the state it was in the 90s (EBN, Kozyrev), then China he would sit quietly at the UN and would not impose any veto. It is clear that amers write boiling water, and here Clitorsha was born again with another orbit:
        Speaking at a meeting of the Friends of Syria Group held in Paris, US Secretary of State Clinton said that supporting the Assad regime Russia and China must answer, and the international community will no longer demonstrate tolerance.

        It seems to me that Russia needs to award Monica Lewinsky some kind of award (at the discretion of the GDP, the Medal of Friendship, the award for the preservation of the environment ...) and so that the moment of awarding a week will be shown on Rush Today and pay for reports in the Western media ... wassat
        1. Fox 070
          Fox 070 28 July 2012 10: 36
          +2
          Quote: dreamer
          Russia needs to give Monica Lewinsky some kind of award

          Uh-huh! "For services to the Fatherland!" (!!!), like Gorbachev, to make it clear who needs to be sucked in order to earn such an order.
    2. scrack
      scrack 28 July 2012 10: 39
      0
      Something smacks of condemnation and pessimism
    3. alexng
      alexng 28 July 2012 13: 26
      +2
      The article is clearly motivated. With a hint that the Syrians are just pawns, and this is ordinary hypocrisy. It was the United States that chose the victim. You see this, their national interests, and the national interests of the rest of the world is that this vampire country would disappear from the face of the Earth as a superpower and stop dictating its conditions to and from places.
  2. Strashila
    Strashila 28 July 2012 06: 38
    +7
    What what, and the Serbs were the first to feel the newly minted democracy in action.
    1. Hairy Siberian
      Hairy Siberian 28 July 2012 06: 51
      +5
      This does not prevent them from setting Serbia's accession to the European Union and NATO as their goal and task.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 28 July 2012 08: 39
        +7
        Quote: Hairy Siberian

        This does not prevent them from setting Serbia's accession to the European Union and NATO as their goal and objective.

        Joining the EU is a sweetie that Serbs will never get. Under this sign there is nothing but to squeeze concessions from Serbia on various issues. But in the end, the promises will remain promises. About NATO and say nothing
    2. valokordin
      valokordin 28 July 2012 06: 58
      +9
      The article is clearly anti-Russian, with a claim to objectivity, aggression is equated with protection from it. Like the struggle of two dictators in the second world war. The reception is not new. Although what to say, we threw the Serbs in difficult times, although the agreement was withdrawn, but the matter was limited to aerobatics - a combat turn over the Atlantic of the wise beyond measure of the Minister of Foreign Affairs.
  3. serge
    serge 28 July 2012 07: 33
    +7
    A hint is read through the lines that Yugoslavia is also a miserable victim in a clash of two superpowers.
  4. sergo0000
    sergo0000 28 July 2012 07: 37
    +4
    valokordin,
    Well, let's say I didn’t leave anyone! Yes, and you also didn’t take part in this. There were no such powers winked . Yeltsin betrayed with his team. But in general, the article is neither plus nor minus. Neither fish nor meat! recourse
  5. Lech e-mine
    Lech e-mine 28 July 2012 07: 45
    +11
    In general, I think this confrontation with the WEST is a struggle for our FUTURE. For our independence and identity as a people and all the WEST talk about freedom about human rights, the smoke screen behind which they carry out their crimes around the world.
  6. Sanches
    Sanches 28 July 2012 07: 52
    +3
    our deep misconception is that the Russian government confronts To the West. This article is a sober look at things
    1. Midshipman
      Midshipman 28 July 2012 11: 12
      0
      You might think confrontation is an end in itself. Not at all, when it is necessary - they cooperate, when it is not necessary to confront, it is completely natural and logical.
  7. volcano
    volcano 28 July 2012 07: 58
    +6
    I’m not sure that the parallels with Yugoslavia are appropriate here.
    All the same, then we ourselves were breathing in the wings, although of course betrayal of the Serbs does not justify.
    Now we have felt, if not the former power, then the resurgent power for sure.
    Therefore, we behave accordingly.
    And we will need strength. because the process of democratization sooner or later will reach Ukraine and Belarus. And then you have to strum weapons already.
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik 28 July 2012 09: 47
      +3
      when it reaches the borders, it will be posture. Now we must actively act!
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 28 July 2012 10: 09
        +1
        On Monday, something interesting at BP of Ukraine in the form of an extraordinary session is announced, the orange and banderlochs are already bustling ...
  8. Storyteller
    Storyteller 28 July 2012 08: 49
    +8
    Comrade thickly hints that we are scurrying around in Syria to ensure the interests of our oligarchs. Nothing personal - business. Somehow this hint of a Serb brother warps.
    1. serge
      serge 28 July 2012 11: 00
      +2
      Storyteller
      Nothing personal - business
      ----------------------------
      Likewise, "Yugoslav socialism" was a business. Take in the West, throw it over to us. And there are friends, and here are comrades. Myself a percentage. But you can't sit on two stools for long. As soon as socialism ended in our country, Yugoslavia died immediately. Too much business with friends is bad. There are no friends left.
  9. patriot2
    patriot2 28 July 2012 09: 02
    +5
    So far, only one thing has come to mind: Russia cannot be repeated what was with respect to Yugoslavia. And this is not only a matter of prestige, it is a deeper question. The article of the Serb is primarily based on this fact, the fact of betrayal of Yugoslavia.
  10. cobra66
    cobra66 28 July 2012 09: 44
    +4
    Amer understands the more weapons we put in, the more difficult it will be for them to take Damascus and the more they will die and their ally for shit democracy, so they scream at every corner
  11. vezunchik
    vezunchik 28 July 2012 09: 49
    +5
    Remember Hitler - the capture of one country after another - under the approval and help of the West! Nothing new! Russia needs to decide and loudly declare its position - and the people will come to us.

    Not a single attempt at an armed attack on the material and technical support point (PIT) of the Russian Navy in the Syrian port of Tartus will remain unanswered, assured on Friday at the General Staff of the Russian armed forces, reports VZGLYAD.

    “If the Syrian armed opposition decides to realize its threats against a possible attack on the PTTO, the Russian Navy now has all the opportunities in the region to respond adequately. We would not advise “hot heads” from the Syrian opposition to do this, ”said the Interfax interlocutor.

    As Vice Admiral Viktor Chirkov, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, said on the eve, there are currently ten Russian warships in the Mediterranean Sea. According to him, on large landing ships are units of the marine corps with standard weapons.
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik 28 July 2012 09: 49
      +1
      Not a single attempt at an armed attack on the material and technical support point (PIT) of the Russian Navy in the Syrian port of Tartus will remain unanswered, assured on Friday at the General Staff of the Russian armed forces, reports VZGLYAD.

      “If the Syrian armed opposition decides to realize its threats against a possible attack on the PTTO, the Russian Navy now has all the opportunities in the region to respond adequately. We would not advise “hot heads” from the Syrian opposition to do this, ”said the Interfax interlocutor.

      As Vice Admiral Viktor Chirkov, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, said on the eve, there are currently ten Russian warships in the Mediterranean Sea. According to him, on large landing ships are units of the marine corps with standard weapons.
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      1. Vasily79
        Vasily79 28 July 2012 10: 14
        +2
        Another unnecessary statement. It’s not easier to put any Chinese vessel of owls for repair for repair at the base, then the USA will wipe off again.
    2. Sanches
      Sanches 28 July 2012 12: 03
      0
      vezunchik Today, 09: 49
      “If the Syrian armed opposition decides to realize its threats with regard to a possible attack on the anti-tank missile system, the Russian Navy now has all the opportunities in the region for an adequate response. "Hot heads" from the Syrian opposition, we would not advise doing this "
      I understood correctly - the Russian landing party does not attack the rebels, but only stands at sea and ensures the safety of Russian citizens?
  12. lelikas
    lelikas 28 July 2012 12: 40
    0
    That's what the Serbs supported the entire veto of the EU against Syria, although no one asked, and hardly anything connects them with Syria.
    And the fact that the war - so it goes from the middle of the last century and nothing.
  13. Voron65
    Voron65 28 July 2012 13: 38
    0
    Quote: Storyteller
    Comrade thickly hints that we are scurrying around in Syria to ensure the interests of our oligarchs. Nothing personal - business. Somehow this hint of a Serb brother warps.

    there is a feeling, it seems that the words are correct, but some kind of sediment remains after the article.
  14. John
    John 28 July 2012 14: 27
    +4
    guys, there is an anegdote on this topic: "A simple resident of Afgan said:
    - When the shuravi left, for the sake of joy I slaughtered two rams.
    - If they had just returned (shuravi), they would have killed 20 sheep.

    PS Wherever we are, we did not destroy mosques and did not burn the Koran.