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A new OPEC + deal has taken place: about some of its parameters

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An event took place, which had high hopes, if not all over the world, then in countries that are exporters of energy resources - a virtual conference of plenipotentiaries of states that are among the main producers of "black gold". Moreover, according to information from the world's leading media and market reactions, this event was quite successful.


The parties managed to reach a consensus and put an end to the confrontation, which in recent months had a negative impact on the pricing environment of global energy markets. It’s no secret that the main stumbling block in reaching such agreements was the contradictions between Moscow and Riyadh that arose last month when our country refused to support another reduction in oil production, rightly seeing only new concessions to Saudi Arabia’s proposals market, playing into the hands of US energy expansion. After all, the United States was not going to reduce production initially.

As a result, even before the expiration of the previous agreement on the reduction of oil supplies, which was in force for the OPEC + countries, Saudi Arabia sharply increased its own production and export of “black gold”, as a result of which, on March 9, its prices fell by 30%, eventually leaving to the lowest rates over the past 20 years. Moreover, exporting countries had other problems, perhaps even more serious: due to overproduction and oversupply of oil, which coincided with an unprecedented decline in demand, it literally had nowhere to go. The world has faced the prospect of a physical overflow of hydrocarbon storage.

Now, mutual understanding seems to have been found: no one objects to a reduction in the rate of extraction of a valuable resource from the bowels of the earth that overnight has almost turned into junk goods. The reaction of world markets followed immediately - the barrel of Brent rose first by 8%, by 18 o'clock yesterday rose in price to 35,5 dollars, and then continued to move up, reaching a growth of 12%. True, a new decline followed - after it became clear that the agreements reached were, in fact, not final, but so far framework. Brent crude oil is currently trading below $ 32 per barrel. Such parameters ...

What's the question? First of all, in that main parameter - volumes of production reduction. Initially called the volume of 10 million barrels per day. Moreover, according to available data, our country was ready to take on 10% of the total burden.

Already in the process of preparing for the negotiations, completely different marks began to appear, on which an oil crane should be turned on - 15 and even 20 million barrels daily. Most likely, the exporting countries will have to stop just at the last value, which makes up 20% of all today's production of “black gold”. Otherwise, all the agreements and economic sacrifices made on their altar will simply not make sense: after a short take-off, prices will return to a fall, which will be even more difficult to stop.

There is another subtlety, or rather, even two. First of all, Riyadh, which seems to show excellent contractability and declares its readiness to produce 4 million barrels a day less, goes to the trick. These millions intend to count there from the record 12,3 million reached by the Saudi oil workers in April. This, for obvious reasons, does not suit Russia. The second point is the completely undefined position of the United States. After talking about his readiness to participate in the negotiations and moderate his own “shale”, if necessary, Washington began to declare that it was not going to cut production, as it already fell in the USA by 2 million barrels per day. It is very similar to the fact that the Americans intend to once again heat the heat with the wrong hands, without sacrificing anything themselves.

New adjustments can be made by the meeting of the G20 energy ministers planned for the near future, which intend to create a special monitoring committee, the main task of which will be precisely the stabilization of oil markets. The most encouraging in this aspect is that the “twenty” to unload the oversaturated market can be undertaken, for example, centralized purchase of “black gold” for strategic reserves of leading countries. In addition, the United States is in the "Big Twenty", unlike OPEC, and most likely they will have to agree on this level.

One way or another, but even a truce in the "oil war" - news definitely positive. The main enemy of any exporting country today is not competitors, no matter how assertive they may be, but the COVID-19 pandemic, which dealt a crushing blow to industrial and business activity. It will be possible to deal with the Saudis and the Americans later (and you will probably have to do this). However, continuing to “measure” the rigs in the current severe crisis, all exporting countries run the risk of finally destroying the global energy market. And at the same time their own economies.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins April 10 2020 07: 01
    +16
    How! It turns out that this is not our problem (a rise in the price of the dollar, a rise in the price of goods, a decrease in the purchasing cost ...), but they have to drain the produced oil physically nowhere!
    Well, thank God, clarified! And then I was worried that only I was not good ...
    1. Parabelum
      Parabelum April 10 2020 07: 12
      -1
      What are you actually so surprised about? In my amateurish opinion, everything is logical, we have some problems, they have others.
      1. ancient
        ancient April 10 2020 17: 31
        +9
        Quote: Parabelum
        we have one problem

        We have no problem ... but we have ....... the place where .. legs grow from recourse
        If we discard the "urya-patriotism" but purely in fact:

        There was a complete "defeat" of ... Russia in ... the "oil war".
        As a result of the Russian Federation will reduce a significant volume of oil production.
        In early March, because of their greed, they wanted to deceive and punish all the shale producers from the United States, and now ....... "... they are signing an act of surrender."

        Starting positions of Russia before ... "war":
        11.3 million b / d, - the price of oil is 50-60 dollars.

        Now:
        8.47 million b / d, the price of oil is $ 30 with a possible rebound of no more than 38-40 bucks, which is still small for the budget.

        The result, as they say ......... "in the face".

        Chronicle of surrender:
        06.03.2020/0.3/XNUMX: Russia refuses to reduce oil production by XNUMX million bpd
        08.04.2020/1.6/XNUMX: Russia agrees to reduce production by XNUMX million bpd
        08.04.2020/2/XNUMX: Russia agrees to reduce production by XNUMX million bpd
        09.04.2020/2.5/XNUMX: Russia agreed to reduce production by XNUMX million bpd

        The clear winner is the United States.
        The Americans have not joined the agreement and have free hands.
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z April 10 2020 07: 18
      -2
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      What time! It turns out

      The world "hegemon" dictates its own rules here too
      Washington began to declare that it is not going to reduce production

      Hope for mutual agreements of other countries and the price will rise?
      I wonder what the Saudis will tell them?
      1. kjhg
        kjhg April 10 2020 08: 06
        +11
        Quote: Starover_Z
        The world "hegemon" dictates its own rules here too
        If the current deal is reached, it is largely thanks to Trump.
        Quote: Starover_Z
        Hope for mutual agreements of other countries and the price will rise?

        That's right. But the most interesting thing is that the United States will not sign a condition to reduce production. They cite the fact that actual US production has already fallen by 2 million barrels. But the trick is that as soon as oil prices begin to rise, US production will also begin to rise, as they did not assume a production restriction, unlike all other countries. It will be a big, albeit temporary, victory for Trump. In any case, this is not the end of the oil war, but only a temporary truce on the terms of the Americans. In the medium term, neither Russia nor Saudi Arabia categorically suits this agreement. As soon as global oil consumption is fully restored, a new redistribution of oil markets awaits us.
        1. knn54
          knn54 April 10 2020 09: 29
          +1
          "Сute (USA and KSA) scolding only amuse".,.
          1. military_cat
            military_cat April 10 2020 10: 32
            +2
            That is, yesterday Russia "put forward conditions", today the condition is not met, but the deal was concluded as if nothing had happened? Maybe it wasn't worth nominating it then, if you didn't plan to insist on compliance? Otherwise, over time, they will stop reacting to any conditions put forward.
            1. Marine engineer
              Marine engineer April 10 2020 11: 08
              +13
              The US is not in the agreement. We were told from all the irons that Putin had put forward a condition that, for some reason, we called the ultimatum that Russia would reduce production only if it participated in the US agreement. Putin’s opinion, as expected, was ignored. “The sheriff’s blacks don’t care.”
              1. Normal ok
                Normal ok April 10 2020 12: 03
                -2
                Quote: Marine engineer
                The US is not in the agreement. We were told from all the irons that Putin had put forward a condition that, for some reason, we called the ultimatum that Russia would reduce production only if it participated in the US agreement. Putin’s opinion, as expected, was ignored. “The sheriff’s blacks don’t care.”

                And Mexico did not support the proposed agreement.
                1. Marine engineer
                  Marine engineer April 10 2020 15: 52
                  +2
                  Support, nowhere to go. The United States said it should be.
              2. New Year day
                New Year day April 10 2020 20: 01
                +10
                Quote: Marine Engineer
                Putin’s opinion, as one would expect

                nobody cares abroad, said and said. And inside the country, few people listen to him, except perhaps his surroundings. Many words, few results
            2. ancient
              ancient April 10 2020 17: 35
              +6
              Quote: military_cat
              That is, yesterday Russia "put forward conditions"

              It was only for the domestic "People" that conditions were allegedly put forward. And everything is much more prosaic bully
          2. ancient
            ancient April 10 2020 17: 34
            +3
            Quote: knn54
            scolding only amuse ".,

            Exactly drinks ...... but .... "the circus, as always left ... but the clowns ... as always ..... stayed" crying
        2. Sergey39
          Sergey39 April 10 2020 13: 08
          +1
          Quote: kjhg
          only global oil consumption will fully recover, a new redistribution of oil markets awaits us.

          Yes, this is a compromise, putting off the problem. The coronaferra will put everything in its place.
          1. ancient
            ancient April 10 2020 17: 39
            +5
            Quote: Sergey39
            Yes, this is a compromise, putting off the problem.

            Yeah ..... "compromise" wassat we "wax" wells in the northern regions, and the Saudis are in the desert ...... continue to tell or everything is clear bully
            Well, do not forget about the level of technical equipment and technology wink
    3. Andobor
      Andobor April 10 2020 07: 22
      -15
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      It turns out this is not our problem

      What are our problems? we sell as much, we consume as much oil ourselves, the price has dropped - we spend less, the tax system has just been sharpened so that the consumer does not see a reduction, taxes are not reduced.
      1. kjhg
        kjhg April 10 2020 08: 00
        +6
        Quote: Andobor
        What are our problems? we sell as much as we consume oil ourselves, the price has fallen - we spend less

        How can you write such a heresy? Who is this for? Mentally retarded?
        1. ancient
          ancient April 10 2020 17: 40
          +4
          Quote: kjhg
          How can you write such a heresy? Who is this for?

          And what else can you write? What is stated in the training manual, then they "promote" ..... the rating is ... under threat bully
          1. Filxnumx
            Filxnumx April 10 2020 19: 38
            -5
            What is stated in the training manual, then "propagandize"
            That is, "essentially", except for stamps from his training manual, there is also nothing to answer. Master Class!
            1. Marine engineer
              Marine engineer April 10 2020 21: 45
              +2
              "Besides the stamps from his training manual, there is also nothing to answer."

              For Russia, such a reduction in volumes will mean that developed and hard-to-recover deposits will be virtually lost. It will be practically impossible (or unprofitable) to restore them, which means - having fallen once, production will no longer be able to rise to its current level.
              In addition, the decline in production and the inevitable decline in exports will lead to the loss of markets. Having left or having reduced their presence on them, Russia will not be able to return, as more technologically advanced competitors will occupy them as demand recovers.
              This is a retribution for the barbaric attitude of Putin's "oil generals" to an industry from which the last juices were squeezed, but in which sufficient investments were not made.
              This means the collapse of Putin's model of an energy superpower. Production cuts are imminent (the US made an "offer you can't refuse"), recovery from the rise in demand is impossible.
              The budget will lose significant foreign exchange earnings, and this is forever. At the same time, there is no substitution for the lost oil and gas revenues and is not expected - in the Putin model, the rest of the industry working for export has long been reliably destroyed or is in its last stages.
        2. Stone
          Stone April 11 2020 20: 31
          0
          The main task of the devils is to prove to the inhabitants of hell that they live in paradise. It may be too exaggerated, but such is the truth of life.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day April 10 2020 20: 02
        +7
        Quote: Andobor
        What are our problems?

        for start-up, there is nowhere to go gasoline, production fell 19%. The paradox of gasoline is a lot of excess, but the price does not fall laughing
    4. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 10 2020 07: 26
      +8
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      thank God, clarified! And then I was worried that only I was not good ...

      It turns out you were worried in vain, my friend! Alarmist, you sir! It's ... "It's very good that we feel bad so far!" ... Take an example from the "heroes" of the film "Aibolit-66"! What does it mean: "only I'm not well ..."? And it will be even worse ... huh ?! That's when you will understand about "now", that it was good to live, life was interesting (!) ... but it will be too late! recourse crying
    5. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb April 10 2020 07: 27
      +4
      Correctly! We live in a closed economic system.

      Another thing is surprising. Why, during a recession in oil prices, there is no decrease in gas prices.

      Lower fuel prices are good support to our economy!
      1. Andobor
        Andobor April 10 2020 07: 37
        -14
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        Why, during a recession in oil prices, there is no decrease in gas prices.

        Taxes are not reduced, and the oil component of the ruble devaluation hides, if you take the price in foreign currency, then the price of gasoline is reduced.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day April 10 2020 20: 04
          +7
          Quote: Andobor
          if you take the price in currency, then the price of gasoline is reduced.

          salary in Russia in the currency issue?
      2. DMB 75
        DMB 75 April 10 2020 07: 38
        +14
        When did gasoline get cheaper? Cheap oil or expensive, peace, war or where, aliens flew in or flew back to Alpha Centauri, no matter what happens in the world, gasoline is getting more expensive. Although stability is here.
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 April 10 2020 08: 10
          +13
          I didn’t understand: the headline says that “the OPEC + deal took place,” but when you read the article, you understand that there is no such deal — there is a natural reduction (and it’s not clear which-more-less) oil production, due to a drop in demand for it. And as for what parameters of reduction each country will have to go to, nothing intelligible. That is, we can conclude that specifically, nothing has been agreed yet. Most importantly, the United States, as it stood on the sidelines, will continue to stand, Trump clearly said yesterday that under no circumstances will the United States sit down at the OPEC + negotiating table. So, the main task of Russia - to put the United States at the negotiating table and force them to commit themselves to a certain reduction in production has not been fulfilled, and most likely will not be fulfilled in the future.
          1. Air force
            Air force April 10 2020 11: 32
            +3
            Yes, this is another journalistic trick, the title of the article, so that people would read. A letter of intent is not a final contract. And the result of the negotiations was only that they agreed to negotiate, well, the Saudis do not slam the door, but this time Mexico slammed the door (maybe it itself, or maybe the United States advised that in which case we would have a trump card, like we will put pressure on Mexico, this is our weighty contribution). But no matter what anyone says, no matter how they "get out", but "" one for all oil exporters. Therefore, they will negotiate, they will not go anywhere. All sorts of independent and strong people slam the doors for the time being, while the doors are open for them and they can slam them, but there will come a moment when their entire inflated economy may collapse, and if this whole surreal situation in the world, namely the pandemic, lasts another 6 months , isolation, crisis, low prices for oil and other minerals, then no one will need oil at all. And do not forget that the hegemon is also not sweet now, these are not the 90s. No matter how the hegemon decides to sow democracy out of desperation. 10 million unemployed, half a million infected are also "slate is covered", 2.5 trillion "bucks" have printed at least henna, it already smells of gunpowder.
          2. dgonni
            dgonni April 10 2020 12: 06
            +4
            (https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/el_murid/16552936/1603267/1603267_original.jpg) why is it incomprehensible here? In March, OPEC asked for a reduction of 0.5 million barrels. As a result of the enchanting multi-move, Russia will reduce production by 5 times more. If realistically, then almost 50% of exports.
            Attempting to weave and export more will result in sanctions.
            Brilliant geostrategies have done their job. Right now it's time to revive the domestic market and demand.
          3. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 April 10 2020 12: 11
            +2
            Quote: Snail N9
            Russia's main task is to put the United States at the negotiating table and force them to commit themselves to a certain reduction in production

            How do you want to make them?
            1. Snail N9
              Snail N9 April 10 2020 12: 23
              +2
              How do you want to make them?

              It is not I who “want to force them,” it is Mr. Putin and Sechin who “want to force them.” It is the fact that the United States was not included in the plans to cut oil production and was named the official reason for the rejection of the agreement with OPEC + in March. Obviously, they considered leaving the OPEC + conference a sort of HSP sufficient to put the United States in a "stalemate" and force them to sit down at the negotiating table. In addition, you have not watched the last speech of the Russian president, where he says that ALL players in the oil market should proportionally reduce production, regardless of the "natural" "losses" caused by the fall in demand.
          4. Okinawa
            Okinawa April 14 2020 11: 40
            +1
            Basic possession of the subject would indicate to our "ultimatumists" that it is impossible for the United States to sit down at the negotiating table, for if I am not mistaken in 1870, the Sherman Act, which was intended to protect the American consumer, prohibits any collusion that interferes with free trade. By the way, for violation of the dozen broke.
      3. Cube123
        Cube123 April 10 2020 08: 00
        -9
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        Why, during a recession in oil prices, there is no decrease in gas prices.

        Even at school, they taught not to compare "warm" with "soft". The oil price is falling in dollars. And the price of oil in rubles does not change. Why should gasoline become cheaper in RUBLES? You pay in rubles at the gas station?
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        Lower fuel prices are good support to our economy!

        It depends on what to consider. If export earnings fall, they need to be replaced with something else. Otherwise, the entire social policy of the country will fall. It will be impossible to plan a budget. So, the compensation mechanism for world price surges through a change in the ruble exchange rate has been selected. And this is correct: at the same time, the economy is not shaken, and the population living in rubles does not notice storms on world markets.
        1. pmkemcity
          pmkemcity April 10 2020 09: 25
          +8
          Quote: Cube123
          the population living in rubles storms on world markets almost does not notice

      4. 210ox
        210ox April 10 2020 08: 09
        +12
        Reducing fuel prices is good support to our economy! Yes you, my friend, a revolutionary! Opponent of the current gad system!
        1. Cube123
          Cube123 April 10 2020 08: 13
          -8
          Quote: 210ox
          Reducing fuel prices is good support to our economy! Yes you, my friend, a revolutionary! Opponent of the current gad system!

          And personally, you will agree to live in a system when the decline in oil prices in world markets on the same day halves your salary or pension? Well, gasoline at gas stations will get a little cheaper. Not twice, naturally.
          1. Okinawa
            Okinawa April 14 2020 11: 56
            0
            Something you, my friend, reported it. Choose, either a cross or underpants. So, the depreciation of the ruble does not change the price of oil and gasoline, which are getting cheaper in dollars, and this is good because it is "stable". But the pegging of the ruble to the dollar will allegedly immediately lead to impoverishment, since salaries will immediately drop (although this is doubtful given our volume of consumer imports).
            Well, for starters, our salaries, glory to the Almighty, do not directly, and indirectly, depend on the dollar exchange rate. And secondly, the question is, with what is the price of oil products in rubles should remain constant in rubles? Do you know which ones? And from those that it is not established by the market, but by oil camarilla. Have you heard that gas imports were banned for days? This is so that, God forbid, he does not fall in price, otherwise stability will be violated.
            Question to you. Do you sincerely think so as you wrote?
      5. ancient
        ancient April 10 2020 17: 42
        +4
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        Why is there no drop in gas prices during the decline in oil prices

        And how "Igorёk" will provide itself with a "salary" of dozens of lamas and ... new "steamships" to buy? lol
    6. passerby
      passerby April 10 2020 08: 01
      +15
      I did not understand the humor at all, only on March 8 our Rosneft talked about the dangers of the agreement with OPEC +, because restrictions on Russian oil supplies entail its substitution by American oil on the market. Now Russia is agreeing to an even greater limitation of its oil supplies, but now saying that it is useful. It turns out that on March 8 they lied or are now lying. Why then do those who lie continue to sit in their chairs and puff out their cheeks?
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 April 10 2020 08: 04
        -10
        Quote: passerby
        I did not understand the humor at all, only on March 8 our Rosneft talked about the dangers of the agreement with OPEC +, because restrictions on Russian oil supplies entail its substitution by American oil on the market. Now Russia is agreeing to an even greater limitation of its oil supplies, but now saying that it is useful. It turns out that on March 8 they lied or are now lying. Why then do those who lie continue to sit in their chairs and puff out their cheeks?

        Sechin’s opinion and the opinion of Russia are somewhat different opinions laughing
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 April 10 2020 08: 35
          +12
          The Financial Times wrote more clearly what Russia had "achieved", in fact:
          2,5 million instead of 1,5 million in March: OPEC forced Russia to scale back production

          http://realtribune.ru/news/economics/4026?utm_source=finobzor.ru
        2. passerby
          passerby April 10 2020 08: 48
          +11
          Quote: Cube123
          Quote: passerby
          I did not understand the humor at all, only on March 8 our Rosneft talked about the dangers of the agreement with OPEC +, because restrictions on Russian oil supplies entail its substitution by American oil on the market. Now Russia is agreeing to an even greater limitation of its oil supplies, but now saying that it is useful. It turns out that on March 8 they lied or are now lying. Why then do those who lie continue to sit in their chairs and puff out their cheeks?

          Sechin’s opinion and the opinion of Russia are somewhat different opinions laughing


          I don’t think that Sechin could single-handedly decide to withdraw from the agreement that was concluded between several countries.
      2. ancient
        ancient April 10 2020 17: 44
        +3
        Quote: bystander
        Why then do those who lie continue to sit in their chairs and puff out their cheeks?

        Because ... "they don't abandon their ..." bully
      3. New Year day
        New Year day April 10 2020 20: 05
        +9
        Quote: bystander
        It turns out that on March 8 they lied or are now lying. Why then do those who lie continue to sit in their chairs and puff out their cheeks?

        they lie all the time, but they sit, because we listen to lies and believe in what has been said
  2. Avior
    Avior April 10 2020 07: 16
    +7
    The author wrote a lot, but not in essence
    This is how the press describes the parameters of the new deal, in fact, primarily between the Saudis and Russia
    both countries will reduce their own production by 2,5 million barrels per day from the base level, for which it was decided to take 11 million barrels per day. The same quota for Russia and Saudi Arabia, which cannot be exceeded until July, will amount to 8,5 million barrels per day. In addition, Iraq will reduce production by 1,06 million barrels per day, the United Arab Emirates - by 720 thousand, Kuwait - by 640 thousand, Kazakhstan and Nigeria - by 400 thousand barrels each. Regarding the overall volumes of the reduction, there was no clearness to the end either. They called even 20 million barrels (given the possible share of the United States), but the current figures are half as much.

    Actually, we didn’t finally agree because of Mexico. It should reduce production by 400, while it agrees only by 100.
    As far as one can understand, the USA is not directly involved in the agreement, maybe, indirectly?
    1. Andobor
      Andobor April 10 2020 07: 45
      -10
      Quote: Avior
      As far as one can understand, the USA is not directly involved in the agreement, maybe, indirectly?

      How and why should they participate, the reduction in the production level in question sets the price level, which kills shale and the shelf for anyone anyway - they have a decrease automatically, - the market is ruining, and it makes a profit for Russia and the Saudis, although it doesn’t decide budget problems - high appetites.
      1. Avior
        Avior April 10 2020 07: 52
        +4
        On the contrary, the agreement raises the price of oil
  3. Old partisan
    Old partisan April 10 2020 07: 17
    +15
    At the peak of the OPEC + decision on behalf of the whole nation, I ask you to raise the price of gasoline and diesel by 40 no by 50%, this will undoubtedly improve the well-being of our people and cause moral harm to international imperialism !!!
  4. Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka April 10 2020 07: 31
    -3
    A new OPEC + deal has taken place: about some of its parameters
    when is that?!!!!!
    OPEC + negotiators to reduce oil production after nine hours of videoconference decided to resume discussion on Friday April 10th. Countries failed to reach final agreement because of the position of mexico
    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/economics/10/04/2020/5e8fb4ae9a79476f9152bb07?from=from_main
  5. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy April 10 2020 07: 34
    +5
    I don’t understand, but what is the "peremoga" for the population of the Russian Federation in this agreement? Is gasoline going to fall in price, and after it the rest of the prices for all goods, or the dollar will return to 30 re? That the people are concerned about the question of how much the bowels of our land are sold for? Are we all shareholders of Rosneft? laughing
    1. Tzar
      Tzar April 10 2020 07: 52
      -2
      Quote: Sovetskiy
      I do not understand, but what is the "peremoga" for the population of the Russian Federation in this agreement?

      Filling the budget of the Russian Federation, no?
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy April 10 2020 08: 13
        +5
        Quote: Tzar
        Filling the budget of the Russian Federation, no?

        Well, if there is nothing left, then it remains only to hope. lol Not?
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion April 10 2020 08: 42
          -8
          Well, if you do not care how much to sell your product, then this is your problem. And I, for one, do not care about whether oil prices are good or not for the global economy. At high prices, my share in this economy is higher.
          1. Sotskiy
            Sotskiy April 10 2020 08: 51
            +6
            Quote: EvilLion
            Well, if you do not care how much to sell your product

            Since when has oil become YOUR good?
            1. EvilLion
              EvilLion April 10 2020 09: 09
              -4
              Probably from the fact that I live here, and money from the sale of oil is invested in what I will use. But, apparently, it’s hard for you to understand such complex constructions. After all, they did not give you money in cash personally.
    2. Gost2012
      Gost2012 April 10 2020 07: 55
      0
      Quote: Sovetskiy
      I don’t understand, but what is the "peremoga" for the population of the Russian Federation in this agreement? Is gasoline going to fall in price, and after it the rest of the prices for all goods, or the dollar will return to 30 re? That the people are concerned about the question of how much the bowels of our land are sold for? Are we all shareholders of Rosneft? laughing

      the oil deal - I don’t understand what I’ve got through, I don’t get anything from it ...
      quarantine - why the heck, I don’t understand, it’s not comfortable and bad for me ...
      Something will be accepted at the "energy 20-ke" - and what exactly does it matter to me, nothing to me ...
      no matter where it happens - and you e..t? I am not there, nothing to me ...
      fly to the moon - well, and what’s the achievement? what am I from this? ..

      It seems to me that Comrade Sovetskiy will welcome the only decision of any bodies of any organizations - to allocate funds and resources free of charge specifically to Comrade Sovetskiy, and there must be many more such decisions, because this is to the benefit of the people laughing
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  6. nikvic46
    nikvic46 April 10 2020 07: 35
    +1
    So far, oil importers have won. You can of course agree on a short moment. But there will be disagreements in terms of volume and, therefore, in the price of oil in the future. This is how the capital market works. That collusion does not last long.
  7. Svetlana
    Svetlana April 10 2020 07: 57
    +5
    The cartel conspiracy, against which all sorts of antimonopoly committees of all countries are fighting, is pure water.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 10 2020 08: 42
      +1
      OPEC is the cartel.
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana April 10 2020 11: 41
        +2
        Yes cartel. But they are not afraid of them, but of their collusion.
        Let's go if all the bakeries, having agreed among themselves, will raise the price of bread from tomorrow. Introduced? This is what the anti-sonopol committees are fighting for. How is oil different from bread?
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion April 10 2020 15: 06
          -1
          For example, the fact that a shortage of bread will appear within a few days, and oil, a few months. This is not the point here a little, without bread people will simply die. Antitrust committees can run into things that are not critical for survival.
  8. Barabashka
    Barabashka April 10 2020 08: 48
    +15
    How great we defeated everyone
    We were asked to reduce production by 1,5 million and now we will reduce it by only 10% from 15-20 million !!
    Hooray comrades !!!
    The ruble is really slightly dropped. Well, nothing, but everywhere we tell how the Saudis surrendered.
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  9. Ivan Kolodin
    Ivan Kolodin April 10 2020 09: 01
    +8
    Why does the author not say that we failed the negotiations, we accepted everything that was imposed on us and we will cut back most of all? We will be forced to reduce as much as 2.5 million. (Yesterday I wrote a post where I indicated that we hadn’t agreed on 400 thousand in March) as a result, we all went through our ears as we put the slate in the corner, that we won’t sign anything without the USA, we’ll total we agree on a 25% reduction in production, and without the United States, in general, as Trump tweeted, we did so, even Mexico knew and left the meeting .... And they got about 230000 thousand ...
    And how do we reduce production, lovers probably think once and shut the faucet .... In reality, the most complicated technological process, in the Far North, is just a blow to the entire oil industry where hundreds of thousands of citizens work, and it’s a sin to hide our defense budgets , medicine, a culture of police salaries, the Russian Guard, and so on ... It's just a shame ...
    Igor Ivanovich Sechin, because of his pathological greed, again framed the whole country ...
    1. Old partisan
      Old partisan April 10 2020 09: 21
      +8
      As Uncle Trump said, it will be so. This should be understood by high contracting parties.
    2. Marine engineer
      Marine engineer April 10 2020 09: 39
      +5
      The price of incompetence is always high.
  10. Grading
    Grading April 10 2020 09: 07
    +6
    Quote: Snail N9
    The Financial Times wrote more clearly what Russia had "achieved", in fact:
    2,5 million instead of 1,5 million in March: OPEC forced Russia to scale back production

    http://realtribune.ru/news/economics/4026?utm_source=finobzor.ru

    It’s such a multi-path jump on a rake to freeze your ears hi
    1. Marine engineer
      Marine engineer April 10 2020 11: 33
      +11
      Stages of "multi-path":

      March 5 - Russia rejects the proposal to reduce production by 0,5 million barrels per day and ruins the OPEC deal

      April 8 - Russia is ready to reduce production by 1,6 million barrels per day.

      April 9 - Russia is ready to reduce production by 2,5 million barrels per day.

      In general, without panic - "professionals" work.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion April 10 2020 15: 11
        -6
        The question is not how much Russia will cut, but how much the rest will cut. If others make big concessions, then Russia may make more concessions. And to reduce by 0.5 unilaterally, this is sorry, but for what reason. Either we drown together, or swim out together too. True, I still did not understand what the news was about, if they still couldn’t talk with Mexico there.
        1. Marine engineer
          Marine engineer April 10 2020 16: 22
          +3
          The base from which Russia and the Saudis agreed to count the reduction is 11 million barrels.
          Russia is cutting from the current 11,2 million barrels to 8,47 million, losing 2,73 million barrels.
          Saudi Arabia - from 10,150 (actual production at the end of March) to the same 8,47, losing 1,68 million.
          The agreement is valid until June 10, after which quotas will again be revised depending on the situation with demand.
          Do not worry about Mexico, "they will be thanked."
  11. Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 10 2020 09: 14
    +3
    Yes, gasoline has not become cheaper and will not get cheaper.

    Promptly. As soon as they were convinced that they could not cut down the dough one by one, they immediately entered into an "undemocratic" cartel agreement. And don't give a damn about "holy competition"

    And the United States, as one of the main consumers of oil, does not care. Reveal, do not condemn with foam at the mouth, but they do not need agreements, unless indirectly.
    The price will fall - gasoline will become cheaper, the economy will move forward. Europe too.
    The price will rise - oil industry profits.

    "And at the same time their own economies" - alas, this is the case for undeveloped countries.
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 17: 59
      +17
      Quote: Max1995
      Yes, gasoline has not become cheaper and will not get cheaper.

      Will not be. We like, oil rises in price, gasoline rises in price. Oil is getting cheaper, gas is getting more expensive. Alas, the oligarchs do not want to lose their profits due to cheap oil, so they are trying to get not received profits from the people ...
  12. ANB
    ANB April 10 2020 09: 24
    +4
    Quote: passerby
    I did not understand the humor at all, only on March 8 our Rosneft talked about the dangers of the agreement with OPEC +, because restrictions on Russian oil supplies entail its substitution by American oil on the market. Now Russia is agreeing to an even greater limitation of its oil supplies, but now saying that it is useful. It turns out that on March 8 they lied or are now lying. Why then do those who lie continue to sit in their chairs and puff out their cheeks?

    No, not like that. And then they lied and now they lie. And they are sitting in armchairs, because they have such a job.
  13. Cowbra
    Cowbra April 10 2020 09: 34
    -8
    Millions there intend to count from the record 12,3 million achieved by the Saudi oil industry in April.

    12 were not there. They get 7,8!!! Moreover, 3-plus million barrels a day goes inside the country, the increase was planned due to a decrease in DOMESTIC consumption.
    Well, the United States didn’t intend to cut anything, either, because Russia simply doesn’t need such an agreement, the deal will not take off - and we don’t care, it will knock the Saudis out of the market (they have a budget deficit of 65% and have a 20% budget deficit ) and all US shales
  14. v.biseroff
    v.biseroff April 10 2020 10: 06
    -5
    I think the topic of GDP is to raise the price tag for oil in the region of $ 35-45, i.e. to the minimum necessary for us, to wait out the wave of the virus and then resume the multi-path.
  15. Grading
    Grading April 10 2020 10: 42
    +2
    It will not be happy ending is a multi-way! fellow
  16. steelmaker
    steelmaker April 10 2020 10: 47
    +3
    And it was worth it to start! The destiny of power, to fulfill ultimatums and to wipe oneself from spitting. A shame! Some may reach by 2024.
  17. smaug78
    smaug78 April 10 2020 10: 48
    0
    Author, you. The transaction did not take place, go download further ...
  18. 123456789
    123456789 April 10 2020 10: 49
    -2
    Quote: Snail N9
    So, the main task of Russia is to put the United States at the negotiating table and force them to commit themselves to a certain reduction in production

    can only be achieved if prices are kept below the profitability of shale mining
    1. 123456789
      123456789 April 10 2020 18: 55
      -3
      Fifth column minusers drown for the United States or for money? laughing
  19. rocket757
    rocket757 April 10 2020 11: 01
    0
    There’s a new twist .... and then one more, then the next!
    Nothing has ended yet, because in fact it is just beginning!
  20. shonsu
    shonsu April 10 2020 15: 10
    +1
    Ahaha! .. The conclusion is almost word for word that I wrote on the blog of K. Dvinsky. The party is postponed, a truce for the sake of the survival of all. )))
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 17: 53
      +14
      It would be strange for me if they didn’t agree ...
  21. garri-lin
    garri-lin April 10 2020 15: 11
    +1
    A decrease in oil prices is a decrease in the cost of a huge list of goods. The petrochemical industry is a huge reservoir. Almost all products should be cheaper. Only by reducing transportation costs. Stop flogging bullshit with the whole world. Any reduction in cost is beneficial to the economy. Decreased production is destructive. These are essentially steps to artificially overpricing everything in this world.
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 17: 51
      +15
      Quote: garri-lin
      Decline in production is destructive

      Government economists have a different perspective on these things.
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin April 10 2020 18: 38
        -1
        Government economists are focusing on the most moronic thing ever invented. In a credit-based economy. How can one trust such people? Demand for basic necessities is not falling. The cost is decreasing. Demand for medical products is growing. This is good. In the current situation, Russia should focus on the export of food products. Increase their production and reduce costs. Reduce the cost of fuel and lubricants. And oil prices can be kept below budgeted for a year. It will rip America off. And undermine the concept of OilDollar. Really good situation right now.
        1. Okinawa
          Okinawa April 14 2020 12: 51
          0
          The whole horror is that you carry such game without a shadow of doubt that it is impossible to argue substantively with this. But someone can take it seriously.
          1. garri-lin
            garri-lin April 15 2020 10: 18
            0
            The whole horror is that only a person who does not understand the difference between a market economy and a planned economy based on an overvaluation of the price to the maximum acceptable for the consumer can call the decrease in the prime cost of essential food a game.
  22. Gene84
    Gene84 April 10 2020 17: 54
    +16
    according to information from the world's leading media and market reactions, this event was held quite successfully

    Who would doubt that. I always said they will agree. Nobody needs and is not profitable for the oil war.
  23. Grading
    Grading April 11 2020 05: 48
    0
    Quote: ancient
    Quote: Parabelum
    we have one problem

    We have no problem ... but we have ....... the place where .. legs grow from recourse
    If we discard the "urya-patriotism" but purely in fact:

    There was a complete "defeat" of ... Russia in ... the "oil war".
    As a result of the Russian Federation will reduce a significant volume of oil production.
    In early March, because of their greed, they wanted to deceive and punish all the shale producers from the United States, and now ....... "... they are signing an act of surrender."

    Starting positions of Russia before ... "war":
    11.3 million b / d, - the price of oil is 50-60 dollars.

    Now:
    8.47 million b / d, the price of oil is $ 30 with a possible rebound of no more than 38-40 bucks, which is still small for the budget.

    The result, as they say ......... "in the face".

    Chronicle of surrender:
    06.03.2020/0.3/XNUMX: Russia refuses to reduce oil production by XNUMX million bpd
    08.04.2020/1.6/XNUMX: Russia agrees to reduce production by XNUMX million bpd
    08.04.2020/2/XNUMX: Russia agrees to reduce production by XNUMX million bpd
    09.04.2020/2.5/XNUMX: Russia agreed to reduce production by XNUMX million bpd

    The clear winner is the United States.
    The Americans have not joined the agreement and have free hands.

  24. jonht
    jonht April 12 2020 07: 02
    0
    Not any agreements !!!! To ruin this market to the ground, Nehai will strangle themselves with a bustle of cheap oil. wassat
    Our country is self-sufficient, and we are used to overcoming difficulties. A couple of years of such prices will begin the reverse process, rising prices and oil shortages. How much do not store oil, but for the rest of your life you will not. hi
  25. Okinawa
    Okinawa April 14 2020 12: 47
    +1
    Quote: Gost2012
    the oil deal - I don’t understand what I’ve got through, I don’t get anything from it ...
    ...
    fly to the moon - well, and what’s the achievement? what am I from this? ..

    You confused horseradish (not vegetable) with carrots. Is your surname solovev, kiselev?