How Ukraine destroyed the factory for the production of ventilators "Burevestnik"


Today, when one of the most sought-after things in a pandemic-affected world is medical ventilators, Ukraine could well be able to not only fully satisfy the need of its own hospitals for this equipment, but also make good money from its export. Well, or to provide disinterested help to any of the countries in special need. Alas, in reality this is impossible: the Kiev factory Burevestnik, specializing in the production of ventilators, has in fact been completely destroyed.


As a matter of fact, the company received its name from the name of the improved modification of the MR-2002 “Ekran” radar station developed and put into operation in 244 by its specialists in 1967, which was successfully adopted by the country's border service four years later. The plant was created in XNUMX as part of the military-industrial complex of the Soviet Union and before the period of “non-fallow” it was known only in an extremely narrow circle of specialists of the corresponding profile as a manufacturer of complex radar surveillance systems for the naval fleet.

After 1991, he was ranked among the enterprises of strategic importance for the security of the country and its economy. Nevertheless, since things were not very successful with the fleet in Ukraine, which separated from the USSR, the factory workers had to master a fairly wide range of civilian products. It should be noted that these things were very technological and extremely popular. In addition to the already mentioned ventilation devices, the company launched the production of other equipment for hospitals and ambulances, sterilizers for surgical instruments, energy-saving systems for controlling passenger elevators and other extremely useful things in the national economy.

The work on radio-electronic stations for marine surveillance did not stop. By 2008, their latest version was ready - "Petrel-3." However, it could no longer save the plant, which in its degradation came to the production of machines for counting bills, VHF receivers and even door hinges. The destructive processes that began in the country after the first Maidan did not leave any chances for this. The Ministry of Health of Ukraine has signed a contract with Burevestnik for the supply of 3 and a half thousand ventilation devices. They promised to calculate according to the results. However, the result was a bankruptcy of the plant ...

The company, having issued a loan, made a thousand ordered devices, and the Ministry of Health paid only 300. The rest of the factory workers were handed out free of charge to hospitals. No one appreciated such a broad gesture: neither the state nor the creditors. In 2011, the enterprise (or rather, its balances) was included in the Ukroboronprom concern, but this did not add orders, and, accordingly, money. All production facilities remained in a “frozen” state, the equipment was slowly pulled apart and deteriorated, the neglected workshops were destroyed and turned into landfills.

Representatives of the “post-Maidan” authorities who arrived at the plant in 2015 with the intention of “restoring” it quickly realized that it was no longer possible to do this. Despite the fact that the enterprise continues to remain a sensitive object related to the nomenclature of the military-industrial complex “non-fallow”, poor things are happening there. The last of the fires, which finally destroyed one of the abandoned workshops, happened at the Petrel on March 22 of this year.

Today, the mayor of Kiev, Vitali Klitschko, openly declares that there are still “a few” ventilators from the Burevestnik production, which are called breathing incense, in city hospitals. Work the enterprise today, for a month it could provide Ukrainian doctors with at least a hundred of such valuable types of equipment, which are also orders of magnitude less than the French counterparts that Ukraine is currently purchasing. However, you should not even dream about it. Moreover, the capital's mayor frankly admits that Ukroboronprom is ready to transfer technical documentation to the devices to any private manufacturer - today it is impossible to arrange their production at any state enterprise in Ukraine. Everything is ruined to the ground.

Klitschko promises, if there are enthusiasts, "be sure to pay for all released equipment." However, remembering the sad experience of The Petrel, whose final collapse came precisely because of faith in the same exact promises, it is unlikely that anyone would dare to repeat his fate. Well, this situation serves as additional evidence that it is easy to destroy, but it is sometimes impossible to recover what was lost.
Ctrl Enter

Noticed a mistake Highlight text and press. Ctrl + Enter

82 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. gabonskijfront April 10 2020 08: 36 New
    • 10
    • 7
    +3
    But this is bad, for me it’s better that the Kharkov tank manufacturer stopped. And in general a part of the Russian people entrusted them with it, but they don’t cherish it, we’ll return.
    1. Insurgent April 10 2020 08: 39 New
      • 9
      • 9
      0
      How Ukraine destroyed the factory for the production of ventilators "Burevestnik"

      "Petrel", as a household name for a flurry that has swept (carried) over ex-Ukraine since it received "independence" ...
      1. Normal ok April 10 2020 11: 59 New
        • 14
        • 10
        +4
        Quote: Insurgent
        How Ukraine destroyed the factory for the production of ventilators "Burevestnik"

        The question needs to be posed more broadly: how did Ukraine destroy the industrial potential inherited from the USSR? Answer: just like Russia, and many other union republics.
        1. Lopatov April 10 2020 12: 50 New
          • 9
          • 6
          +3
          Quote: Normal ok
          how did Ukraine destroy the industrial potential inherited from the USSR? Answer: just like Russia

          Yah...
          Compare, for example, GAZ and ZAZ.
          1. Normal ok April 10 2020 13: 10 New
            • 17
            • 3
            +14
            Hundreds of enterprises producing high-tech products were destroyed throughout the former Union (Russia is no exception). Virtually destroyed entire industries, machine tools, production of element base and up. This is a general trend, and you give an example of a special case.
            1. Vadim237 April 10 2020 13: 42 New
              • 3
              • 2
              +1
              "Destroyed hundreds of enterprises producing high-tech products" - For the most part, working for the needs of the army.
              1. Lelek April 10 2020 17: 20 New
                • 2
                • 1
                +1
                Quote: Vadim237
                Destroyed hundreds of enterprises producing high-tech products "- For the most part, working for the needs of the army.

                hi
                And as a result, what they have today among civilians and in the "most powerful in the world" APU.
            2. Lopatov April 10 2020 17: 30 New
              • 7
              • 4
              +3
              Quote: Normal ok
              Hundreds of enterprises destroyed throughout the former Union (Russia is no exception)

              This, of course, is interesting.
              But GAZ still works. Completely redesigned from cars to commercial vehicles. However, not closed, not destroyed. It turns out that in Russia, industry has collapsed quite differently. how is it in Ukraine?
            3. Non liberoid Russian April 11 2020 05: 22 New
              • 1
              • 5
              -4
              so let's write thousands right away, whine as loud as possible.
            4. Tues Seven-Charger April 11 2020 17: 37 New
              • 3
              • 5
              -2
              Quote: Normal ok
              Hundreds of enterprises destroyed throughout the former Union (Russia is no exception)

              Hundreds of destroyed enterprises in Russia is a fake thrown by a liberda. There is even a year of stuffing and the title of the article. You repeat it. Not good. Either immerse yourself in the topic of large and medium-sized enterprises that have closed and experienced difficulties (restored), and there are less than a hundred, or do not show your ... lack of information. I have all the materials on the page in VK. Even somewhere close from above. If you don’t find it, I’ll help. Take care of your head from meningitis.
              1. victor50 April 11 2020 21: 32 New
                • 3
                • 1
                +2
                Quote: Tues seven-shot
                Take care of your head from meningitis.

                Here you can only answer that you take care of others very nobly, you could not save yours. In essence, even objecting is somehow not serious., But .. collective farms, state farms. In one small area out of 40000 cattle, 4 remained; in the regional center, 4 enterprises of incense were left, at least 5 completely destroyed. As a result, the mass of the population works on a rotational basis in Moscow and other cities. St. Petersburg: instead of large enterprises, many of the buildings are occupied by small tenants, who, as a rule, do nothing, listing them all is an ungrateful affair, well, right away - a VET plant. Power: the number of employees decreased by 10 times. What, somewhere else picture? But it’s important for you to have nonsense and misfortunes in Ukraine. Enjoy it!
            5. codetalker April 11 2020 17: 53 New
              • 0
              • 1
              -1
              If the trend was correctly identified, then special cases should fit into it. I'm sorry. A lot of special cases come out. Wishful thinking is pleasant to the heart, but has nothing to do with analysis.
          2. Keeping April 11 2020 12: 40 New
            • 5
            • 3
            +2
            Compare, for example, GAZ and ZAZ

            Compare their KrAZ and our ZIL, but why do not you compare their ZAZ with our AZLK?
            1. Lopatov April 11 2020 12: 42 New
              • 0
              • 1
              -1
              Quote: Keeping
              Compare them KrAZ and our ZIL,

              why not KamAZ?
              Just GAZ is by far the most successful of the Russian car factories.

              For he was the only one who was forced to completely change his specialization
              1. Keeping April 11 2020 12: 53 New
                • 2
                • 2
                0
                So, our GAZ didn’t have any cars left in the nomenclature, while ZAZ didn’t have trucks, so the comparison is not entirely correct.
                1. Lopatov April 11 2020 14: 37 New
                  • 0
                  • 1
                  -1
                  Quote: Keeping
                  So, our GAZ didn’t have cars in its stock, and ZAZ didn’t have trucks

                  Exactly!
                  Two plants whose products were not in demand.
                  And what's the difference between them ....
                2. Suhow April 13 2020 01: 05 New
                  • 0
                  • 0
                  0
                  Excuse me, but the Volga is no longer being released? This is about GAZ
        2. Kosty April 11 2020 11: 27 New
          • 1
          • 0
          +1
          Industrial Destruction - Western Scenario for Ukraine
    2. Finches April 10 2020 08: 40 New
      • 15
      • 18
      -3
      Ukraine and the days of the USSR, like all other fraternal republics, were parasites, but now this is also confirmed by the fact that, like the tapeworm, when it is parasitized inappropriately, it begins to eat itself ... laughing
      1. Lipchanin April 10 2020 10: 43 New
        • 12
        • 7
        +5
        Quote: Finches
        Ukraine and the days of the USSR, like all other fraternal republics, were parasites,

        1. Paul Siebert April 11 2020 16: 40 New
          • 3
          • 0
          +3
          I was especially impressed with Georgia, the champion of dependency and consumerism in this table!
          How could it be?
          An echo of Stalinist politics?
        2. Polymer April 11 2020 19: 38 New
          • 1
          • 0
          +1
          Data from the newspaper "Soviet Russia" for 1992

          Yeah, "data" ... Flags are all new, data is in dollars, not in rubles ...
          Where did the "woods" come from?
    3. smart ass April 11 2020 15: 08 New
      • 1
      • 1
      0
      And here is Ukraine, and how many such plants were closed in Russia?
  2. Ros 56 April 10 2020 08: 36 New
    • 7
    • 6
    +1
    And did someone expect something else from the Bandera savages? There is continuous decommunization, and this is its result.
    1. major147 April 10 2020 10: 05 New
      • 3
      • 2
      +1
      Quote: Ros 56
      And did someone expect something else from the Bandera savages? There is continuous decommunization, and this is its result.

      Ukraine destroyed a ventilator plant

      They knew that they would be needed!
    2. Lipchanin April 10 2020 10: 44 New
      • 6
      • 6
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      And did someone expect something else from the Bandera savages?

      1. antique April 11 2020 19: 50 New
        • 2
        • 6
        -4
        The same is with us.
    3. TermNachTer April 10 2020 11: 19 New
      • 4
      • 2
      +2
      This is not even the point. It is much more convenient to order mechanical ventilation for the "hill", for rabid grandmas, but with a good "rollback", because the cost of mechanical ventilation made in Kuev is very easy to calculate.
      1. Lipchanin April 10 2020 11: 39 New
        • 4
        • 8
        -4
        Quote: TermNachTER
        This is not even the point. It is much more convenient to order mechanical ventilation for the "hill", for rabid grandmas, but with a good "rollback",

        It was a long time ago, during the USSR
        The wife of one of the senior officials was sent to France to buy shoes
        Those who lived in the 70s and 80s know what shoes we had on the shelves. I mean the brand "Skorokhod"
        Well, this lady immediately began to be invited to restaurants, to concerts of stars, picnics, etc.
        As a result, for everything, by the way, considerable amount, she bought insanely expensive shoes made of crocodile leather.
        At home, she was reasonably asked who would buy such expensive shoes.
        An example of a different approach.
        When in the USSR they decided to build a factory for the production of cars, they sent a group of engineers to Italy.
        When they arrived at the factory, the Italians turned on all the lines on the conveyor to confuse them. Not those attacked. Ours began to show what to disable. In the end, the one left turned on, the one we needed.
        With a car factory, I could be mistaken in terms, but not in the sense of history itself
        1. Elturisto April 11 2020 16: 52 New
          • 4
          • 1
          +3
          He invented himself? You weren’t in the project yet in 1970, he knows the brand of fast walker ...
  3. Mouse April 10 2020 08: 38 New
    • 16
    • 2
    +14
    Well, or to provide unselfish help to any of the countries in special need

    disinterestedly and krajina? belay did not lie next ....
    1. gabonskijfront April 10 2020 08: 44 New
      • 5
      • 3
      +2
      They even bite for money.
      1. tihonmarine April 10 2020 09: 05 New
        • 3
        • 3
        0
        Quote: gabonskijfront
        They even bite for money.

        If they don’t bite, they’ll cheat anyway.
        1. Lipchanin April 10 2020 10: 47 New
          • 7
          • 6
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          If they don’t bite, they’ll cheat anyway.

      2. Lipchanin April 10 2020 10: 45 New
        • 5
        • 6
        -1
        Quote: gabonskijfront
        They even bite for money.

  4. The comment was deleted.
  5. LKW UE April 10 2020 08: 48 New
    • 8
    • 2
    +6
    All Soviet legacy in the form of factories, factories was destroyed for the purpose of profit, the premises were rented out, it was too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys refused. But again, the Soviet legacy was designed for the Union, and Ukraine got a lot of industry, so they ate and sold for almost 30 years. The temptation to get rich without creating anything, but destroying and selling the heritage of ancestors in Ukraine turned out to be insurmountable.
    1. Avior April 10 2020 09: 16 New
      • 10
      • 1
      +9
      "Petrel" specialized in marine radars, produced throughout the USSR, after the collapse of the Union in Ukraine, of course, the products were needed very limitedly, the border guards bought something there and that's it.
      IVL is like that, an accompanying citizen, and did not use much demand until the spring of this year, it was at a loss to let out.
      Many allied enterprises, not only that, who lived on firm orders from the military, did not fit into the capitalist system, and gradually died away. It's a pity... :((
      1. Peter is not the first April 10 2020 09: 46 New
        • 9
        • 2
        +7
        We ourselves are full of such collapsed enterprises, and we must first protect and develop our own. And the article is more correctly called in another way: "How Ukraine destroyed the plant for the production of marine radars."
        1. tihonmarine April 10 2020 11: 59 New
          • 2
          • 1
          +1
          Quote: Peter is not the first
          "How Ukraine destroyed the plant for the production of marine radar."

          And why Ukraine marine radar? There is no fleet, no sea, and near the coast and along the river you can walk without a radar. Although somewhere slipped "Submarine in the steppes of Ukraine", maybe if only in the steppes a radar is needed.
    2. major147 April 10 2020 10: 51 New
      • 1
      • 2
      -1
      Quote: LKW UE
      All Soviet legacy in the form of factories, factories was destroyed

      MOSCOW, April 10 - RIA News. The Association of Veterans of Atomic Energy and Industry of Ukraine announced a critical situation in the country's nuclear energy industry and the danger of "another Chernobyl." This is stated in the appeal, which was published by the UNIAN agency.
      "A threatening situation is taking shape in the country's nuclear power industry," the letter said to a letter addressed to President Vladimir Zelensky, Prime Minister Denis Shmygal and Verkhovna Rada Speaker Dmitry Razumkov.
      According to representatives of the association, the leading electricity supplier in the country, the NNEGC Energoatom, does not have permanent managers who would work with the relevant permits.
      Thus, legally no one is responsible for the safety of nuclear power plants, the authors of the appeal pointed out. "Are we really little about Chernobyl and are we trying to repeat it again?" - Nuclear veterans wondered.
      At the same time, Energoatom is experiencing a growing shortage of financial resources to ensure safe operation and procurement of nuclear fuel, the association noted, asking the country's leadership whether they are aware of what the forced shutdown of nuclear power units will lead to.
      In addition, the authors of the appeal pointed out the ongoing attempts to introduce people far from nuclear power into the Energoatom leadership. "Do you realize that all this is a gross violation of the international nuclear security regime?" - asked the nuclear scientists.
      Representatives of the association demanded to stop such practices and "stop the country’s sliding towards another Chernobyl."
      The authors of the appeal were, among others, the former director of the Zaporizhzhya NPP Vladimir Bronnikov, the former director of the Smolensk NPP Georgy Kopchinsky, the former director of the Rivne NPP Vladimir Korovkin and the former chief engineer of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, the former head of Gosatomnadzor of Ukraine Nikolay Shteynberg.
  6. Andrei Nikolaevich April 10 2020 08: 48 New
    • 9
    • 5
    +4
    Why do they need factories? Ukraine is already in Europe. They will give everything there. Catch up and still give ..
    1. major147 April 10 2020 10: 11 New
      • 3
      • 2
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Catch up and still give ..

      How to "give" the post-Soviet countries. Destroyed at the root of everything that at least as much as could compete with EU producers.
    2. tihonmarine April 10 2020 12: 03 New
      • 1
      • 2
      -1
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Why do they need factories? Ukraine is already in Europe. They will give everything there.

      No, well, if they promised, they will definitely give. Well, how not to give such garnish and delicious lads what they have been begging for 20 years.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich April 10 2020 12: 48 New
        • 1
        • 5
        -4
        Yeah. Especially ,, savory ,, lads. Svezhak, for Geyropa.)
  7. Chingachguk April 10 2020 08: 57 New
    • 4
    • 7
    -3
    And kakly do not get sick !!!!! Why do they need these devices ???? Ukropiodam The main thing that would jump healthy, yelling, spring has come !!!! And Schaub cookies were delivered on time and handed out free of charge !!!!!
  8. Aviator_ April 10 2020 08: 57 New
    • 8
    • 0
    +8
    of such valuable types of equipment, which are also worth orders of magnitude less than the French counterparts purchased by Ukraine now.

    A common occurrence. In our office 20 years ago there was a similar situation - one necessary unit was produced both in Kaluga and in Germany, the last option, naturally, more expensive. And where did our office buy this unit, guess? By the way, the Kaluga block was no worse, it still works without failures, it was installed at the installation, for the reconstruction of which nothing was allocated. Well, large funds were allocated for a large installation, so what kind of Kaluga is there is more interesting in Hanover.
  9. knn54 April 10 2020 09: 00 New
    • 2
    • 4
    -2
    Thieves, marauders, and now clowns. WHICH state is able to withstand it?
    1. Lipchanin April 10 2020 10: 50 New
      • 2
      • 7
      -5
      Quote: knn54
      Thieves, looters, and now clowns

  10. cniza April 10 2020 09: 02 New
    • 8
    • 2
    +6
    How Ukraine destroyed the factory for the production of ventilators "Burevestnik"


    Yes, that plant, they are finishing the country ...
  11. prior April 10 2020 09: 04 New
    • 3
    • 3
    0
    The Story of the Petrel is a good example of the “friendship” of “independent states” with the European Union and America.
    The goat Timur became friends with the tiger Amur ....
    Whether it will still be, dear non-brothers ...
  12. Nyrobsky April 10 2020 09: 05 New
    • 2
    • 4
    -2
    Ukraine could well to be able to not only fully satisfy the need of their own hospitals for this equipment, but also make good money from its export. So or give selfless help any of the countries in greatest need.
    The author got a little excited))) Ukraine and "disinterested help" are incompatible concepts.
  13. The comment was deleted.
  14. Free wind April 10 2020 09: 42 New
    • 4
    • 1
    +3
    The photo shows a lathe and a universal milling machine. If radars were made on these machines, and even mechanical ventilation, then you can goof. Equipment for elevators, but just down to the elevator goes under its own power only slows down, to the top as usual, the controller for the circle is skilled hands. A sterilizer is a pot for boiling. And if the radio after pots is a degradation, then what is the development? Stone ax after the tractor DT-75?
    1. Lipchanin April 10 2020 13: 04 New
      • 2
      • 4
      -2
      Quote: Free Wind
      The photo shows a lathe and a universal milling machine. If radars were made on these machines

      Well, where did you get that this photo is from that same enterprise?
      In your opinion, the author of the article went to the factory and took pictures there?
      Yes, it's just a hundred illustration, picture.
      A photo or video is about what the article puts into the publication itself.
      The author could have posted another photo without any machines
  15. Cowbra April 10 2020 10: 00 New
    • 1
    • 7
    -6
    Why should they? There, the liberot and the sect of St. Mask won. Musk brought them! Devices for the treatment of HRAPS, having stuck on them Tesla nameplates and giving out as IVL devices laughing
    I would like the whole sect to them. Navalny and Alena-in-helmet would be treated only on such devices
  16. Ross xnumx April 10 2020 10: 01 New
    • 8
    • 5
    +3
    Sir, Haraluzhny!
    How Ukraine destroyed the factory for the production of ventilators "Burevestnik"

    Than to consider the gossips to work,
    Isn't it better to pour on yourself, godfather, turn around?

    IVL devices became in demand only because the world was "mired" among the coronavirus. And so, 90% of people did not even know that such devices exist, and in peacetime they are in demand (mainly) in the aftermath of fires and carbon monoxide poisoning. That is, in cases where the lungs of a person cease to perform their proper functions.
    What interests me more is the question of who closed (didn’t they open?) Masks factories in Russia?
    Quote: Finches
    Ukraine and the days of the USSR, like all other fraternal republics, were parasites,

    You have incorrect views on the status of union republics. The Soviet Union was not created as a consortium or corporation, and was not based on purely mercantile interests. I will tell you more. The assistance provided by the RSFSR helped both remove the burqa, and teach literacy, and create industry that works for the entire Union as a whole. The fact that there were not many moral freaks among people was the merit of fraternal relations in the country. BUT!!! Everywhere there were those who pursued only mercantile interests in life, without burdening themselves with hard and hard physical labor (by the way, in the USSR they paid good money). We simply showed indifference when they climbed into power.
    Today we are reaping the fruits of our indifference ...
    1. Cowbra April 10 2020 10: 42 New
      • 5
      • 6
      -1
      Quote: ROSS 42
      What interests me more is the question of who closed (didn’t they open?) Masks factories in Russia?

      I'm just wondering what a person should have in his head? So ventilation is rarely used ... Do you often wear a mask? !!!
      They produced about 340 thousand masks per day. The rest was covered by importers. The product was not particularly popular. The need is about 400 thousand masks per day. including reserves in special facilities.

      Now demand is estimated at 3,5 - 4 million masks per day. If the pandemic reaches the level of present-day Italy or Wuhan in the worst period, it can jump to 400 million units per day.

      Due to emergency measures, the current production was able to disperse up to 900 thousand units. Taking into account small additional productions, the total production volume has been brought up to 1,2 million. Now they are launching additional third shifts (they still have to hire people, which is not done in five minutes) and accelerate the re-profiling of other suitable sewing productions. According to the Minister of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation Denis Manturov, this in March already yielded 1,5 million units per day.

      That is, in about three weeks the state raised the output volume by 3,75 times. Did someone say thanks to him? No. But outrageous critics - every second.
      1. Ross xnumx April 10 2020 13: 59 New
        • 2
        • 5
        -3
        Quote: Cowbra
        That is, in about three weeks the state raised the output volume by 3,75 times.

        I absolutely drum you, your Manturov and the 3,75 times output volume raised. Clear?
        In the city where I live from the beginning of the declared quarantine, there are NO masks in any pharmacy !!!
        You are sitting here and defending these worthless ministers with foam at the mouth only because someone appointed them, and they were unable to work, not knowing what to do, WERE NOT ABLE TO REFUSE THE OFFERED PROFITABLE PLACE.
        Quote: Cowbra
        So ventilation is rarely used ... Do you often wear a mask? !!!

        Yes it is!!! And in a country where there are more than 565 doctors and there are many professions where such a mask is simply necessary, the need for them is at least 000 pieces daily. And the need for mechanical ventilation is much less, in addition, their service life is much longer ...
        Brains work in my head, because I received education in a Soviet school. I prefer logical conclusions and facts confirming the words. And in yours, apparently, the same black and white substance that on the avatar ...
        Train your memory.
        1. Cowbra April 10 2020 15: 12 New
          • 3
          • 3
          0
          I absolutely understand that infantility is incurable. And the slogan - Hachu-Hachu-Hachu - for you is still the highest measure of justice. Moreover, which is characteristic, you see the same situation with mechanical ventilation and masks differently, because "hachu-hachu-hachu!"
          I personally came out of the age of such motivation in kindergarten.
          1. Ross xnumx April 11 2020 05: 48 New
            • 0
            • 3
            -3
            Quote: Cowbra
            I absolutely understand that infantility is incurable.

            Well, if you understand this, then not everything is lost.
            It’s a pity that it won’t reach you at all that acquired behaviors, such as servility, ingratiation, servility, servility, servility, are not the most wonderful human qualities.
            Yes ... With your "hachu-hachu" address to "hachas", but I do not need anything in my life besides the health of my relatives. In addition, I just know that “wanting” is possible, but to get the “ARMANI Acqua di Gio pour Homme” flavor from SKUNS is a futile task ...
        2. Vadim237 April 10 2020 17: 14 New
          • 3
          • 2
          +1
          To ensure that everyone in Russia at least nominally provides masks for five pieces per day on the snout - you need to produce 735 million every day, no one in the world will make so many masks per day - even China. "Brains work in my head because I got education in a Soviet school. I prefer logical conclusions and facts confirming words." Only now, in fact, it’s zero, since they are not even able to make a mask for themselves - otherwise they would not ache about their absence in pharmacies.
          1. Ross xnumx April 11 2020 06: 03 New
            • 1
            • 2
            -1
            Quote: Vadim237
            Only now, in fact, it’s zero, since they are not even able to make a mask for themselves - otherwise they would not ache about their absence in pharmacies.

            You are a kremlebot, because when it comes to the duties of power, you try to translate the conversation into the mainstream:
            WHAT DO YOU DO FOR YOURSELF ...?
            So, dear Sir in some circles, unlike you, I learned how to sew masks in the early 60s, and now I’m trying to do without this guardianship from the state.
            I am still amazed how soon some of the people were able to “get lost” only from the fact that she was allowed to take a step to the free feeder. fool And to those millions of citizens who receive a meager salary and pension, you too will say:
            “What is the use of working somewhere and working somewhere? You just don’t know how to make money. You were great in words, but, in fact, you turned out to be zeros, since you are not even able to make money on your own - otherwise their absence in pharmacies you wouldn’t ache in your pockets. ”
            Well? Try to have more at the same time and not run so fast when they begin to express gratitude to you ...
        3. gsev April 11 2020 04: 24 New
          • 1
          • 0
          +1
          Quote: ROSS 42
          In the city where I live from the beginning of the declared quarantine, there are NO masks in any pharmacy !!!

          So they explained to you that in the country 1 mask per 100 people. Or in another way. Now 12 are sick, the mask lives for 000 hours, they need 2 masks per day. In Russia there are 144000 medical workers who also need masks, as well as members of their families at risk. When in Russia the production of masks reaches 1,3 million a day, then masks can begin to be provided to police officers, sellers, and drivers of public transport, and when about 20 million then work at enterprises. Like that. The absence of masks in pharmacies, apparently there is a possibility that the state could send them to medicine.
          1. Ross xnumx April 11 2020 06: 16 New
            • 0
            • 2
            -2
            Quote: gsev
            So they explained to you that in the country 1 mask per 100 people. Or in another way. Now 12 are sick, the mask lives for 000 hours, they need 2 masks per day. In Russia there are 144000 medical workers who also need masks, as well as members of their families at risk.

            It’s just ridiculous for me to read the arguments of people who present very “valuable” information, in the hope that I could not find:
            At the end of last year, the public health sector of the Russian Federation was employed 565 thousand doctors. Such data are contained in the results of the federal statistical observation in the field of remuneration of certain categories of workers in the social sphere and science for 2019, which was published by Rosstat. The leaders in the number of doctors among the regions are the most populated Moscow (62 thousand), St. Petersburg (32,6 thousand) and Moscow region (26 thousand), it is minimal in the Nenets Autonomous District (198 people). For five years, the number of doctors across the country decreased by 7 thousand people (in 2015 - 665,9 thousand). If we calculate the indicator of the number of doctors in the population of the Russian Federation, there are 10 doctors per 38 thousand inhabitants (which corresponds to the passport of the National Healthcare project), and five years ago - 39. The number of paramedical personnel in the country last year was 1,314 million people (in 2014 - 1,401 million), the staff of the junior medical staff was the most reduced - up to 264 thousand people (in 2014 - 650 thousand).

            Only here is a hitch. They do not all work at the same time. But even if everyone 2 143 000 work requires masks (albeit daily), then they should not sew them themselves (they have another job), and the industry of the Russian Federation should provide them with this, and not roll their eyes and do not complain that production has stopped in China.
            Maybe then you should turn to the experience of bread production? Or are there other rules and making it much easier?
            Remember, the road is a spoon for dinner, and the mask is in the midst of a pandemic.
  17. New Year day April 10 2020 11: 29 New
    • 10
    • 8
    +2
    Quote: Insurgent
    How Ukraine destroyed the factory for the production of ventilators "Burevestnik"

    And where is the Lenograd factory Krasnogvardeets, which produced ventilation machines of the RO family?
    They themselves have long had a log in their eyes, but we are looking around
    1. Lopatov April 10 2020 12: 57 New
      • 4
      • 1
      +3
      Quote: Silvestr
      And where is the Lenograd factory Krasnogvardeets, which produced ventilation machines of the RO family?
      They themselves have long had a log in their eyes, but we are looking around

      Uh ...
      So they seem to work ....
      Are you confusing anything?
      https://gvardman.ru/produktsiya/
      1. New Year day April 10 2020 20: 23 New
        • 7
        • 1
        +6
        Quote: Spade
        So they seem to work ....

        like .. PJSC Krasnogvardeets with a staff of 150 people unites two enterprises in St. Petersburg and in the city of Staraya Russa, Novgorod Region.
        Legal entity AO "KRASNOGVARDEETS", registered at 197022, St. Petersburg, ulitsa Instrumentalnaya, 3, LITER P, ROOM 1N, KOMN. 59, took part in 10 tenders for a total amount of 14 843 920 rubles. -2016-2017. Since 2018, does not produce products
        https://synapsenet.ru/searchorganization/organization/1027806885963-ao-krasnogvardeec/postavschik/1
    2. Vadim237 April 10 2020 13: 52 New
      • 1
      • 4
      -3
      No, you just don’t know where anyone is releasing what in Russia - just to blurt out some kind of crap.
      1. New Year day April 10 2020 20: 23 New
        • 8
        • 2
        +6
        Quote: Vadim237
        No, you just don’t know where anyone is releasing what in Russia - just to blurt out some kind of crap.

        https://synapsenet.ru/searchorganization/organization/1027806885963-ao-krasnogvardeec/postavschik/1
        read, otherwise you’ll get crap
        1. Vadim237 April 10 2020 20: 53 New
          • 2
          • 5
          -3
          In Russia, at least seven enterprises that produce mechanical ventilation - but I did not ask about your Red Guard. So you can continue to sculpt bullshit only from the beginning of the log from your eyes, pull it out.
          1. New Year day April 11 2020 00: 19 New
            • 6
            • 2
            +4
            Quote: Vadim237
            In Russia minimum seven enterprises that produce mechanical ventilation - but I didn’t ask about your Red Guard

            unrecognizable demagogue am
            1.Manufacture artificial ventilation devices recommended for use in medical institutions in Russia three factory. All of them are located in Yekaterinburg: LLC Triton-Electronics, JSC Production Association Ural Optical and Mechanical Plant, and JSC Ural Instrument-Making Plant (UPZ, part of the Rostec holding KRET).
            2. If you interfere with the dialogue, then at least read the text about what is at stake. For those in the tank ...
            Quote: Silvestr
            And where is the Leningrad plant "Red Guard"

            Quote: Spade
            So they seem to work ....

            Quote: Vadim237
            No, you just don’t know where anyone is releasing what in Russia - just to blurt out some kind of crap.

            so if you do not own the topic
            Quote: Vadim237
            just to blurt out some kind of crap.
            laughing love
            1. bk316 April 11 2020 19: 35 New
              • 2
              • 0
              +2
              All of them are located in Yekaterinburg: About

              Wait wait
              What about TMT? Or do we no longer count rhythms? There are thousands of them in the country.
              I know people who developed software for it .... By the way, who is interested in a series of rhythms is the only domestic mechanical ventilation certified for home use. It’s quite a modern device. My friend’s mother lay on it for six months at home.
  18. Karaul73 April 10 2020 12: 40 New
    • 0
    • 3
    -3
    Very effectively ditched the factory. And it does not, it turns out, trust the state. You will be richer. Directly looking through the looking glass.
  19. faterdom April 10 2020 15: 38 New
    • 2
    • 1
    +1
    Decommunization in all its glory. After all, "Petrel" is it from? Duc, this, it, like Maxim Gorky, proletarian writer ... "... between the clouds and the sea the petrel proudly roars, a black lightning like ..." Where is the visa-free regime, or lace panties and tomos?
    Whether it’s the matter "... a stupid Penguin timidly hides a fat body in the cliffs ..." This is what should be written in the constitution, and then some petrel was lying around ...
  20. Moon April 10 2020 22: 59 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    Petrel itself will not be restored = (most likely they will allocate areas for other productions_)
    But the release of the developed ventilation will be transferred to private owners
    GK "Ukroboronprom" is ready to transfer copies of the design documentation of the BRIZ-T mechanical ventilation apparatus to private manufacturers who can quickly establish the production of devices. This was reported by the press service of the state concern.
    "If there are any and can make their own versions of Breeze in a short time and at a sane price - Ukroboronprom will provide drawings and supporting documentation,"

  21. high April 11 2020 07: 20 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    It was necessary to recall that the destruction of the Petrel enterprise took place during the time of President Yanukovych ....
  22. xomaNN April 11 2020 11: 42 New
    • 2
    • 0
    +2
    I’m even surprised that the Luch Design Bureau in Kiev continues to move in the rocket business like that. The military-industrial complex is collapsed to the ground. He himself worked in it in Soviet times ...
  23. Vadim Kiselev April 11 2020 15: 27 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    The help of the West ends the same everywhere.
  24. solkhat April 11 2020 15: 28 New
    • 1
    • 1
    0
    Why only Ukraine? But in Russia? Have you set up shopping and entertainment centers across the country?
    This Putin has done with his friends during the reign. It is not necessary only to say that he lifted from his knees. Picked up, yes. Rotenbergs, Sechin, Timchenko and other oligarch merchants.
  25. The comment was deleted.
  26. Igor Matyunin April 11 2020 18: 59 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    Well, all this, after all, was during the reign of Rostov sidekick Yanukovych?
  27. Prisoner April 11 2020 23: 53 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    In Ukraine there is no word "destroyed", there is "decommunized." Well, the flag in their hands. no
  28. Chaldon48 April 12 2020 05: 31 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    Maydanutyh all according to Maidan. Maidan Ukraine will hiccup for a long time.
  29. crazyzerg April 14 2020 07: 38 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    Quote: Free Wind
    A sterilizer is a pot for boiling. And if the radio after pots is a degradation, then what is the development?


    Ask about the cost of medical sterilizers.