Experts: Saudi Arabia lost to Russia in the oil war

Experts: Saudi Arabia lost to Russia in the oil war

Saudi Arabia, which disrupted the OPEC + deal and hoped to receive some dividends from it, was the loser. According to the Turkish edition of Anadolu, Russia was ready for the consequences and eventually won.


According to Turkish columnist Firdevs Yuksel, Saudi Arabia, which called for an OPEC meeting to find a “just solution,” “unequivocally and unconditionally” admitted defeat in the price war with Russia.

According to experts, Riyadh will no longer be able to continue the price war with Russia. Saudi Arabia, intending to terminate the transaction with OPEC, hoped to get out of this situation as a winner. However, Russia did not intend to give in, and given Moscow’s "airbag" and Washington’s pressure, Riyadh "signs an act of surrender."

It is not known what the leadership of the Middle East monarchy was counting on when they started such a dangerous game. But they, fortunately, will no longer be able to continue it. The risk of losing everything is very great

- said expert Mamduh Salama.

Meanwhile, according to experts, the new OPEC agreement will have little effect on the oil market; the fall in demand and oil prices will continue, regardless of quotas for future production cuts.

At the same time, there is an opinion that, despite the upcoming negotiations within the OPEC framework, Riyadh and Moscow will not be able to agree, as the proposed reduction of 10 million barrels per day will not save the situation. And nobody will agree to more.

Earlier it was reported that Russia was ready to make a deal to reduce oil production while reducing production by other countries, including not only all OPEC countries, but also by such large exporters as Norway, the USA, Mexico, etc.

Meanwhile, it became known that the Saudi Arabia Sovereign Fund began to buy stakes in European oil and gas companies, taking advantage of the reduction in their quotes in the face of falling oil prices and the coronavirus pandemic.

According to The Wall Street Journal, in recent weeks, Saudis have acquired stakes in Norwegian Equinor, Anglo-Dutch Royal Dutch Shell, French Total and Italian Eni for a total of about $ 1 billion. It is predicted that the purchase of shares in European companies will continue.
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  1. Mebius April 9 2020 12: 27 New
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    Well, Russia has long been preparing for such a development of events and even more critical .. The straw was laid down and thanks to the sanctions! So it is better to make friends and negotiate with Russia, we are always ready for dialogue ..
    1. den3080 April 9 2020 12: 36 New
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      Funny article. The point is that Russia won, but it will not help anyone.
      But what about "indemnities"?
      So far, only “annexation” is taking place, that is, the losers are buying up the cheaper shares of world oil giants.
      What is the victory?
      Not Sakharov, but Zuckerman. Not in chess, but in point. And did not win, but lost.
      This feeling is caused by this article.
      1. venik April 9 2020 12: 46 New
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        Quote: den3080
        that is, the losers are buying up the cheaper shares of the world oil giants.

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        Well, MUCH did they buy them?
        1. Cowbra April 9 2020 12: 52 New
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          I think even more than SOLD Aramko shares. They just tried to sell it here the other day ... Imagine - no one bought it! laughing
          IMHO this could be another bearded tale. Previously, they sang a fairy tale that they would double the volume of production, it turned out that they couldn’t increase it, but they lied about that production - not 9,8, but even 7,8 million barrels per day, and even 3,4 , XNUMX lemons from them - spending domestically
          1. Malyuta April 9 2020 13: 03 New
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            Quote: Cowbra
            I think even more than SOLD Aramko shares. They just tried to sell it here the other day ... Imagine - no one bought it!

            But a certain Glencore concourse and the Qatar sovereign fund bought 19,75% of Rosneft’s shares from Sechin, and they told the chef on television about the whole world with a igorash the whole world!
            I can’t understand why Igor Sechin is not yet a dick of the Russian Federation ???? Where is the president looking? Some kind of vrotenberg hero, but the true guardian of the country and the best manager of the WORLD is not the hero of Trud, this is not order!
            1. carstorm 11 April 9 2020 13: 24 New
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              I guess you don’t understand what a joint stock company is and what it means to sell shares. but why should everyone show their ignorance? If you don’t know then at least look at who these shares were purchased for and why I think you will understand that it’s not clear trolling on the topic of Sechin, at least it seems to me stupid.
              1. Malyuta April 9 2020 13: 35 New
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                Quote: carstorm 11
                but why should everyone show their ignorance?

                I will definitely correct myself and will take an example from an undeniable authority.
                1. Cowbra April 9 2020 13: 42 New
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                  Well, they would have written that you were here at work. Malyuvat nadyat - otherwise everyone does not give cookies, they say you work poorly. Arbeit Macht Frey and all that, maybe soon they will appoint a blocker
                  1. edmed April 9 2020 13: 48 New
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                    Quote: Cowbra
                    Arbeit Macht Frey

                    Beautifully said offset!
                    1. Sunstorm April 10 2020 10: 23 New
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                      What is beautiful in the phrase from the gates of the concentration camp? Sorry, but you are a "rare" connoisseur.
                      1. edmed April 10 2020 14: 51 New
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                        Quote: Sunstorm
                        What is beautiful in the phrase from the gates of the concentration camp?

                        Of the "guards"? Duck, read above.
                2. carstorm 11 April 9 2020 13: 44 New
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                  instead of searching for videos and pictures on the internet, you better study the question. although this is your time and you decide what it is better to spend it of course.
                  1. Malyuta April 10 2020 12: 06 New
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                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    instead of searching for videos and pictures on the internet, you better study the question. although this is your time and you decide what it is better to spend it of course

                    So it’s 10th ramp !!! And where is your peremog ???
                    I remember you taught yesterday, and now you are in a puddle.
                3. demo April 10 2020 10: 38 New
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                  Logic is such a science.
                  Those. according to the logic of GDP, it is necessary to raise / lower the dollar against the ruble and the budget will be full!
                  Hooray.
                  No need to work.
                  Head up and it's in the hat.
                  And then I, old uren, thought that it was necessary to create material goods that could be touched by hand.
            2. Odessa Greek April 9 2020 13: 28 New
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              How much anger and hate your comments lol What, there are no perEmogs, we couldn’t write something constructively, but it’s necessary to pour a bucket of slops. Perhaps, to complete the picture, you forgot to shout the SUGS, well, or another mantra ..... see the curd)
              1. 72jora72 April 10 2020 09: 54 New
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                Perhaps, to complete the picture, you forgot to shout SUGS, well, or another mantra ..... see
                And here you are, why did the shinemoids drag here?
                1. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 00: 13 New
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                  Quote: 72jora72
                  Perhaps, to complete the picture, you forgot to shout SUGS, well, or another mantra ..... see
                  And here you are, why did the shinemoids drag here?

                  what and the speakers above why not ask ?? !!! wink wassat
                  1. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 01: 49 New
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                    Quote: Nikolai Grek
                    speakers

                    orator repeat
            3. venik April 9 2020 14: 28 New
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              But a certain Glencore concourse and the Qatar sovereign fund bought 19,75% of Rosneft’s shares from Sechin, and they told the chef on television about the whole world with a igorash the whole world!

              ========
              ABOUT! "Grandmother remembered about St. George's Day!" Still about the "program of 500 days" remembered! Very "out of place" (but it’s not clear which one) ....
            4. Oyo Sarkazmi April 9 2020 19: 46 New
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              I can’t understand why Igor Sechin is not yet a dick of the Russian Federation ????
              Gee. These shares were sold by Rosneft a long time ago, and the current shareholders have decided to drop them. Secondary market, Sechin's affairs before him - as before Baghdad. The controlling, voting block of shares is again not with Sechin, but with the Government. Sechin is a hired manager.
              1. Hypatius April 10 2020 04: 12 New
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                The government no longer has a controlling stake! Rosneft’s subsidiary transferred 9,6% of Rosneft’s shares in exchange for toxic assets in Venezuela. This Sechin HPP in Venezuela, which fell under US sanctions, will pay our budget again. Follow the news, update manuals, as the next zrada to make help.
            5. NordUral April 10 2020 18: 22 New
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              We have with these now a circle Permogue. In Syria, the militants are slowing down our patrol, the “brothers are Slavs,” those who are demolished by the Czechs and the monument to Marshal Konev, and sent to Shoigu to request a monument. I myself am not offended for him, but the Minister of Defense of Russia is being sent insolently, I must answer.
              At least by a landing party to the place where the monument was taken, take it home and explain "to the bros that we will not save next time."
              1. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 00: 18 New
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                Quote: NordUral
                At least a landing in the place

                gather all together (local wrestlers) and land !! lol I won’t be surprised if local whiners hasten to relax in the Czech Republic !!! wink PS ... it would be interesting to listen to your plan of sending our landing to "that place" !! soldier wassat
                1. NordUral April 11 2020 11: 21 New
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                  No joke, Nikolai?
                2. cniza April 11 2020 11: 47 New
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                  Relax, some have castles and other real estate ...
            6. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 00: 10 New
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              Quote: Malyuta
              vrotenberg

              Interestingly, are you so veiled or what else ?? !!! what let's look at the objectivity of the sighted here for the rules !!! wassat lol
          2. Leshy1975 April 9 2020 13: 19 New
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            Quote: Cowbra
            I think even more than SOLD Aramko shares. They just tried to sell it here the other day ... Imagine - no one bought it! laughing
            IMHO this could be another bearded tale. Previously, they sang a fairy tale that they would double the volume of production, it turned out that they couldn’t increase it, but they lied about that production - not 9,8, but even 7,8 million barrels per day, and even 3,4 , XNUMX lemons from them - spending domestically

            1) the Russian Federation did not agree to a deal with OPEC and reduction of 0,5 million. barrels at a price of $ 60.

            2) the Russian Federation agrees to 1,6 million reduction. barrels at a price of 30, from the level of the first quarter.

            3) Saudi Arabia increased the volume of oil produced from 9,8 million barrels to 12,3 million, so the country's willingness to provide a decrease of 3 million barrels will lead it to almost “pre-war” indicators.

            4) Russia has kept production at 11,3 million barrels; for it, the reduction in quotas will actually be more significant.

            5) the source of Lenta.ru - Condition to reduce production, which Russia and Saudi Arabia put laughing USA, provides for the regulation of volumes and their specific level, stressed in the Kremlin. Thus, concluded Peskov, Moscow will continue to insist on the participation of American companies in efforts to stabilize the market.

            6) source finanz.ru - the United States and Canada will not participate in the OPEC + meeting, which will discuss an agreement on a massive reduction in oil production


            PS It remains only to wait for an official decision, from which all the same numbers will be cut, if according to the results of the first quarter, when some other countries, unlike the Russian Federation, still increased production, then this will be a rout, complete. Because they will only return to their existing level. Well, let’s wait what they say after the Patriots, where they will see the next great victory achieved thanks to the KhPP. laughing
            1. carstorm 11 April 9 2020 13: 46 New
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              The Russian Federation did not agree to a deal with OPEC and a reduction of 0,5 million barrels at a price of $ 60 because it bothered to lose markets. and nothing else. if we enter the state agreement, we will remove this factor at least temporarily. and it is more important for our prices at the moment.
              1. Ingvar 72 April 9 2020 13: 51 New
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                Quote: carstorm 11
                because it got sick of losing markets.

                Now she has acquired these markets? wink
                1. Heet April 10 2020 20: 43 New
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                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Now she has acquired these markets?

                  Time will tell.
              2. Leshy1975 April 9 2020 13: 54 New
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                Quote: carstorm 11
                The Russian Federation did not agree to a deal with OPEC and a reduction of 0,5 million barrels at a price of $ 60 because it bothered to lose markets. and nothing else. if we enter the state agreement, we will remove this factor at least temporarily. and it is more important for our prices at the moment.

                So the United States is not going to participate in this, they are going to stupidly impose sanctions if something happens.
                But we (the Russian Federation), with a reduction of 1,6 million barrels, now run the risk of losing some of the old deposits.

                Is this exactly the result that the Russian Federation sought?
              3. mole April 9 2020 14: 04 New
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                About the loss of markets, baddies and greedy princes, etc., maybe enough already? Rosneft flooded with substance primarily Our country. And, first of all, the pH guides are counting on help from our country!
                Earlier, when they signed the previous agreement, these gifted people thought what? And now a friend sharply “enlightened” !?
              4. syndicalist April 9 2020 17: 06 New
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                Quote: carstorm 11
                because sick of losing markets

                Brilliant!
                March 5 - Russia rejects the proposal to reduce production by 0,3 million barrels per day and ruins the OPEC + deal
                April 8 - Russia is ready to reduce production by 1,6 million barrels per day.
                April 9 - Russia is ready to reduce production by 2 million barrels per day.
            2. mole April 9 2020 13: 55 New
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              Pyrrha overpowered Rosneft!
            3. Altona April 9 2020 14: 41 New
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              Quote: Leshy1975
              Well, let’s wait what they say after the Patriots, where they will see the next great victory achieved thanks to the KhPP.

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              Goblin, putriots with mathematics are not friends from the word at all. In fact, the defeat is complete and unconditional. As for the article, it is for some internal use. Apparently, Erdogan needs to be shown how elegantly he maneuvers between his two “partners” in the form of the SA and the Russian Federation and plays on their contradictions. Each thesis in the article is sucked from the finger.
            4. lazy April 10 2020 03: 23 New
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              Give a link to 0,5? simply in an article dated March 4, "Russia and Kazakhstan did not support an additional reduction of 1,5 million barrels per day." not sickly you lied to 1 million liar
              1. Leshy1975 April 10 2020 11: 44 New
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                Quote: lazy
                Give a link to 0,5? simply in an article dated March 4, "Russia and Kazakhstan did not support an additional reduction of 1,5 million barrels per day." not sickly you lied to 1 million liar

                With the determination of who the liar is here, be more careful if you yourself do not know how to search for information, and I will not contact you in the future (source thebell.io from 07.030.2020):
                Saudi Arabia has proposed a new reduction in production for 1,5 млн barrels per day one third of which was supposed to fall on non-OPEC members, that is to Russia.
                1. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 00: 30 New
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                  Quote: Leshy1975
                  source thebell.io

                  in Russia did not give the domain ??? and then immediately British ??? !!! what lol
                  1. Leshy1975 April 11 2020 09: 12 New
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                    Quote: Nikolai Grek
                    Quote: Leshy1975
                    source thebell.io

                    in Russia did not give the domain ??? and then immediately British ??? !!! what lol

                    On, Kolenka, keep the Russian domain (source Novye Izvestia newizv.ru):
                    Back in early March, our country was offered to reduce oil production by 0,3 млн barrels, now she will have to cut it by 8 times - by 2,4 million barrels.

                    Why exactly 0,3, and not even 0,5? Because 0,5 should have been incl. and to Kazakhstan. But I brought what was in the source. And the sources gave a different figure and corrected it as the situation was clarified.

                    PS I hope, Kolenka, now you feel better after the Russian domain. You can ride on. With the help of you. hi
                    1. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 16: 20 New
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                      Quote: Leshy1975
                      hold and the Russian domain (source Novye Izvestia newizv.ru)

                      what and what is not the echo of Moscow or the aval ?? !!! wassat lol
              2. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 00: 31 New
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                Quote: lazy
                not sickly you lied to 1 million liar

                it’s normal for them ... many of the local public cheer it up ... as they say, according to Goebbels’s precepts !!! request wassat
            5. NordUral April 10 2020 18: 24 New
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              All around Permogue.
            6. Heet April 10 2020 20: 57 New
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              Quote: Leshy1975
              Saudi Arabia increased the volume of oil produced from 9,8 million barrels to 12,3 million, so the country's willingness to provide a decrease of 3 million barrels will lead it to almost “pre-war” indicators.

              And what happened in the end, say? Has Saudi Arabia reached "pre-war performance", predictor?
            7. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 00: 25 New
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              Quote: Leshy1975
              Saudi Arabia Increased Extraction

              yeah .. else she pushed Russia out of Europe due to super discounts ... and delivered all these volumes ... though, the current in her dreams !!! lol wassat
              Quote: Leshy1975
              source Lenta.ru

              well, not avalic with an echo of Moscow !! laughing
              Quote: Leshy1975
              then it will be a rout, complete.

              another "rout", which Hitler also arranged for us !!! request
        2. den3080 April 9 2020 13: 00 New
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          Quote: venik
          Quote: den3080
          that is, the losers are buying up the cheaper shares of the world oil giants.

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          Well, MUCH did they buy them?

          Very little. Until.
          But “tomorrow” their overseas owners will join this process, who are already raving about the new Marshall plan and who have a beautiful, best in the world, the most beautiful and smart (Trumpu alaverdi) typewriter. And then “have mercy on God,” as Alexander Vasilievich Suvorov used to say.
          What to do with the “winner of the oil war”?
        3. KURT330 April 10 2020 18: 25 New
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          You will find out as soon as you exit quarantine)))
      2. Lopatov April 9 2020 12: 53 New
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        Quote: den3080
        Funny article. The point is that Russia won,

        The point of the article is that Saudi Arabia lost. And for Turkey it’s good. For SA and Turkey are two candidates for leadership in the Islamic / Sunni world
        1. Ingvar 72 April 9 2020 13: 59 New
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          Saudi Arabia lost

          Did she lose? In my opinion, no. If we compare macroeconomic losses, and not lost profits, then our losses are many times greater. hi
          1. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 00: 34 New
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            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Comparing macroeconomic losses rather than lost profits

            what the main thing is to blurt out the abstruse words whose meaning you yourself don’t know !! wassat laughing
      3. Mebius April 9 2020 13: 04 New
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        Quote: den3080
        What is the victory?
        Not Sakharov, but Zuckerman. Not in chess, but in point. And did not win, but lost.
        This feeling is caused by this article.

        It’s far from victory and the article, of course, isn’t worth shouting too bravura, but Russia is still defending itself and there is something .. That’s the point. hi
        The Saudis panicked first, well, they will buy up shares, and then what?
        1. Malyuta April 9 2020 13: 14 New
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          Quote: Mobius
          The Saudis panicked first, well, they will buy up shares, and then what?

          And further, because of the "alarmism" of the Saudis, our beautiful government will raise the price of gasoline for you. hi
          1. mole April 9 2020 14: 06 New
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            "will raise gas prices"
            While the virus is raging and sitting at home they won’t raise it. Then they will win back with interest!
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            our excellent government will raise the price of gas for you.

            Her ... first start with .... "public domain" lol

            The Federal Antimonopoly Service has approved an increase in gas prices in Russia.
            Starting July 1, the gas tariff intended for the population will increase by 3%, for other categories of consumers - by 2,99%, follows from the FAS order published on the portal of legal acts.
            The decision to index twice as much as last year (1,4%) was made after analyzing its economic feasibility, said Armen Khanyan, head of the FAS Russia’s fuel and energy industry and chemical industry regulation department, to TASS.
            “The calculation is based on the parameters of the annual change in the wholesale price level for the population, laid down in the forecast for the socio-economic development of the Russian Federation for the period until 2024,” he explained, adding that an increase of 5% was initially considered.
            The cumulative result over the past three years, gas for Russians has risen in price by 8%, since 2014 - by almost 20%.

            Gas tariffs are raised at the height of the economic crisis to offset Gazprom’s losses in the foreign market, where gas prices have plummeted, RusEnergy partner Mikhail Krutikhin points out.

            https://www.finanz.ru/novosti/lichnyye-finansy/vlasti-utverdili-povyshenie-cen-na-gaz-dlya-rossiyan-1029073272
        2. Ingvar 72 April 9 2020 14: 00 New
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          Well, they will buy stocks and what's next?

          They buy stocks, we sell. So who wins? wink
      4. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 9 2020 13: 13 New
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        Quote: den3080
        What is the victory?

        The fact that Russia has retained its share of the oil market. Since, if it succumbed to the ultimatum of the SA, then the Americans would immediately fill up the lost volumes. This was the calculation.
        So far, only “annexation” is taking place, that is, the losers are buying up the cheaper shares of world oil giants.

        Those same oil giants received extra money, and shareholders will receive dividends, all in the black. What's so bad
        1. Kisa April 9 2020 13: 22 New
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          The title is provocative. no one agreed on anything. Initially, the Russian Federation refused to reduce by 1.4 million, but now it agrees to reduce by 1.5, but the Arabs do not like it this morning. meeting tomorrow. Trump also does not intend to reduce explaining that the loss of shale is already a reduction on their part
        2. mole April 9 2020 14: 14 New
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          "What's wrong?"
          What good Who will have to shell out for these buns? To the Saudis? Unlikely. To the Chinese? Only in the black! Americans will make you need - they will print!
          Draw conclusions!
          PS Before you relay the head turn on!
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 9 2020 14: 38 New
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            Companies sold shares. Quotations of these shares already purchased are the problem of the holders of these shares. But dividends are accrued.
            The Chinese bought some millions of tons of cheap oil there. But this benefit is momentary. Would you save a lot by buying a couple bags of buckwheat now? And will it help you much in the future?
            The Chinese are disrupting product contracts. Have you read these contracts? Me neither. Can a coronavirus be considered force majeure justifying a breach of contract? And I do not know.
            So why do you use so many exclamation points? They would write a capsule. If it seems to you that screams are directly proportional to persuasiveness.
            1. mole April 9 2020 14: 53 New
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              Personally, what have you received from the sale?
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 9 2020 14: 56 New
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                Specify your question. To whom and what they sold, and how I could be connected with this.
                1. mole April 9 2020 15: 10 New
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                  The fact that "sold the company" and further in the text?
                  What did you get?
                  1. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 9 2020 15: 18 New
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                    The companies sold the shares, receiving money for this, that is, increasing their capitalization. Most likely, shareholders will make a profit after adjusting prices. In addition, they will receive dividends if they do not sell shares before the reporting period.
                    1. mole April 9 2020 15: 27 New
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                      Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                      The companies sold the shares, receiving money for this, that is, increasing their capitalization. Most likely, shareholders will make a profit after adjusting prices. In addition, they will receive dividends if they do not sell shares before the reporting period.

                      You have left the answer. How in this situation do not express your emotions through exclamation points?
                      I repeat, especially for the "capitalists", what SPECIFICALLY did you receive from the sale?
                      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 9 2020 15: 31 New
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                        Yes, no matter what I answer, you will still try to poke fun.
                        For example, Gazprom opened for 170, and closed for 190.
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                        This is speculation. And it's not about Gazprom.
                        Say to yourself: What good is it for you?
                        Me: I feel like paying for these games "opened, closed." Not on Forex.
                      3. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 9 2020 16: 01 New
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                        You asked what I received. I answered. If you had in mind something else, then clarify your question. I asked you about this. Already do not exact for a tautology.
                      4. mole April 9 2020 16: 18 New
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                        "You asked what I got. I answered."
                        You answered:
                        "Companies sold the shares, getting paid for it, that is, increasing their capitalization. Most likely, the shareholders will receive a profit after adjusting prices. Additionally, they will receive dividends if they do not sell the shares before the reporting period."
                        Then I correct the question: Are you a shareholder of the company that made a profit? wink
                      5. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 9 2020 16: 54 New
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                        I don’t count on dividends, as I prefer the type of intraday deals. As an additional source of income, it justifies itself.
                      6. mole April 9 2020 18: 21 New
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                        wassat
                        Speculator!?
                        While on the wave, then it goes, "there is profit - you can eat." But in the short term. Then all the same, at best, zero.
                        Only on gasoline purchased at a gas station will the profit go to minuses, not to mention the indirect payment of fuel for any purchase. Because the goods are delivered, but spent on fuel and lubricants delivery.
                      7. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 9 2020 19: 01 New
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                        I can recommend you the books of Daniel Kahneman "Think Slowly, Decide Quickly" and "Game Theory" by Avinash Dixit and Barry Neilbuff.
                        The stock market perfectly kneads the brain. No worse than learning foreign languages
                        And you didn’t read Clausewitz's "On War"?
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                        Read the CCM capital. And the role of LABOR in commodity-money relations.
                        Like any type of "trader" to the question that raped, begins to reason ...
                        Order with gambling addiction, anyway they have 5 ace in the deck or more. First of all, what is beneficial to you, and not show-offs.
  • Overlock April 9 2020 14: 16 New
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    The fact that Russia has retained its share of the oil market.

    if they don’t buy our oil in Europe, did it save it?
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      But they don’t buy it? Which then?
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        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
        But they don’t buy it? Which then?

        https://finance.rambler.ru/markets/43870136-neftyanoy-infarkt-rossiyskoy-ekonomiki-evropa-vtoruyu-nedelyu-ne-pokupaet-chernoe-zoloto-iz-rossii/
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          From the fact that Europe has not bought Russian oil for the second week, do you conclude that it will not buy it at all?
          If you have such a keen mind, why aren’t you self-sufficient, but still need something?
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            Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
            From the fact that Europe has not bought Russian oil for the second week, do you conclude that it will not buy it at all?

            who and what will buy next is unknown even to Crown Prince Salman and Trump
            Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
            If you have such a keen mind, why aren’t you self-sufficient, but still need something?

            why such a profound passage? laughing
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 9 2020 17: 23 New
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              Based on your pretentious comments.
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                Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                Based on your pretentious comments.

                very flattered that you read me hi Obviously. what is your principle
                laughing
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                  why such a profound passage?
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                Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                Based on your pretentious comments.

                do not pay attention to his fakes !!! wink laughing
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          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
          But they don’t buy it? Which then?

          https://finance.rambler.ru/markets/43870136-neftyanoy-infarkt-rossiyskoy-ekonomiki-evropa-vtoruyu-nedelyu-ne-pokupaet-chernoe-zoloto-iz-rossii/

          replicate all the old fakes ?? !!! lol
          from your own article !!!

          “Everyone will seek to purchase from the Saudis. Prices are so low that it is much more profitable, ”says a European oil trader to Reuters.

          Following Europe, difficulties began to arise in the Chinese direction. On Tuesday, it became known that the state-owned petrochemical corporation Sinochem refused to purchase from Rosneft due to US sanctions.

          but reality, not your fictional little world !!! wink

          Saudi oil was not needed in Europe
          https://lenta.ru/news/2020/03/27/saudi/

          Why Europe and the USA refuse to buy cheap oil
          https://finance.rambler.ru/economics/43922402-pochemu-evropa-i-ssha-otkazyvayutsya-pokupat-deshevuyu-neft/

          Reuters: China purchased a record 1,6 million tons of oil from Russia
          https://tass.ru/ekonomika/8086361
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      if they don’t buy our oil in Europe, did it save it?

      what Surely you personally rolled a barrel to Europe, and you were treacherously refused to buy it ?? !!! wassat laughing
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    "Turkish Analyst" - paid by Rosneft.
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    Before the “quarrel” the Yankees insured the production of shale oil at $ 60 a year in advance, and no matter how much oil costs, the sale goes at $ 60 a barrel, because the investment bank covers the difference with the current price. That is, in a year, “shale oil” would simply collapse.
    Russia didn’t receive the money in the budget. After the sale of shares, Qatar also got a blocking stake.
    Won in one-DO NOT RUN.
    And in the battle, the one who pushed the foreheads of the KSA and the RF, i.e. the USA, economically won.
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      And in the battle, the one who pushed the foreheads of the KSA and the RF, i.e. the USA, economically won.

      Now the United States needs to knock out any member that produces more than 6 million barrels per day: Russia or Saudi Arabia, Iran. The whole world is interested in this, who extracts or consumes oil. This can be done in Syria. A military conflict in any of these countries will instantly raise the price of oil. The easiest option: Russia- Turkey- Idlib
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      "Those who pushed"
      It is not necessary to collide in the presence of "rams".
      About the fact that Russian citizens received less ...
      and the same ram, like a hedgehog, is understandable.
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      And no matter how much oil costs, the sale is at $ 60 per barrel,

      they sell oil in a completely separate world ?? !! wassat laughing
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    Not Sakharov, but Zuckerman. Not in chess, but in point. And did not win, but lost.

    And Russia is Sechin.
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    The straw was laid and thanks to the sanctions!

    I have two questions ...
    First-And what of all this fuss about a simple citizen of the Russian Federation?
    And the second question- This mantra about the fact that sanctions help us is already fed up with the procedure and I’ll say why ... Can’t it work in Russia without a kick, fines, sanctions? What prevented the sanctions from starting to do everything What made us do the sanctions? Or until we kick or slap in the face, we will not do anything by definition?
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      First-And what of all this fuss about a simple citizen of the Russian Federation?

      And what was a simple Soviet citizen from fussing in Afghanistan ??? !!!
      There were better roads in war than here without war ..
      2) “thunder will not strike — man cannot cross himself”, “Harness for a long time, but drive fast” and so on ...
      What prevented the USSR from producing at least jeans and chewing gum? You look and would be alive ... and wise men would not moan now- "How good it was to live"
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    The disruptors are accustomed to live on a large scale, if they begin to cut oil supplies to the population, it will quickly remember that once they were proud donkey ... desert militaries and will begin to rob the cows.
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      Quote: Gray Brother
      if they begin to cut oil handouts to the population, it will quickly remember that once they were proud donkeys ... desert soldiers and will begin to rob the cows.

      Over the past 30 years, you directly got into your pocket 5 times. 1991, 1998, 2008, 2014, 2020. Removing from 20 to 100% of money at a time. Retirement time cut by half. Feeding was practiced at all for 7-8 years, and the last 10 only do what they cut. III What kind of cows are you robbing now? Or even on
      Quote: Gray Brother
      proud donkey ... military
      don't you pull?
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        don't you pull?

        When I was "climbed into my pocket," I had nothing there, moreover, since 1998, our American friends have climbed there exclusively through loans and sanctions.
        I’m just pulling and I live at my own expense, so I don’t depend on handouts - anestend?
        But the one who lives on a freebie is always vulnerable, they will block the faucet and amba.
        1. Roman123567 April 9 2020 13: 04 New
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          I’m just pulling and I live at my own expense
          That's what you think..

          But the one who lives on a freebie is always vulnerable, they will block the faucet and amba.

          Yeah .. poor vulnerable Sechin ..)) For some reason, until 30 years only he and his kind of faucets have blocked us .. And if they crawl into your pocket and find nothing there, they stupidly deprive pension money .. But you keep looking in the closet of the Americans, because of which the Russian Federation has been in poverty for all years ..
          PS .. dill logic .. for those Russia 30 years to blame for their poverty .. we, they say, robbed .. And that means us-Americans ..))
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            Quote: Roman123567
            then stupidly deprived of pension money ..

            At 50, I’ll tie up work and am not going to live on a beggarly pension.
            Quote: Roman123567
            And it means us - the Americans ..))

            They strangle companies on a credit line; they cannot develop and pay taxes.
            If you don’t see the connection, wipe the glasses.
            1. Roman123567 April 9 2020 14: 12 New
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              At 50, I’ll tie up work and am not going to live on a beggarly pension.
              Dartanyans have been missing for all all centuries .. But most of the country will have to live on a beggarly pension !! And it is precisely our country .. and not some other "great power" there .. And, of course, it’s not because they have been stupidly robbed all these years .. but simply sheer loafers .. and everything in Russia. Well, besides you, of course ..
              They strangle companies on a credit line; they cannot develop and pay taxes.
              If you don’t see the connection, wipe the glasses.
              Ah-ah-ah .. As I understand it, about Sechin’s company again ?? (since I mentioned it above) .. Or about some nickel ?? And the biggest yacht of anyone there, remind .. what kind of an underdeveloped company, and who prevented her from paying taxes ?? Rosatom and Roskosmos, how are we doing there ?? Who is choking them ?? And does it strangle at all ?? And if not, then why ?? But my brother works at the Rosselkhoz .. no one strangles why ?? But my director doesn’t have to take loans at all .. He invests his money .. Although the banks call and offer to take every day .. Maybe the Americans are forcing these bankers to take ??
              I would love to wipe your glasses .. not squeamish .. But, judging by the nonsense that you refer to in development .. pah, in the underdevelopment of our country .. I think it's not about glasses ..

              Threat .. Mishustin said yesterday that due to the virus, hard times are waiting for us, the budget will cry, and that in general, they say - they were refined .. but there was no time for this ..))
              This is how 20 years of mediocre rule can be attributed to the ordinary FLU .. and without any Americans, forcing our oligarchs to buy apartments in London ..
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                I understand that about Sechin’s company again ??

                We are talking about sanctions prohibiting Western banks from giving long-term loans to Russian companies in general.
                Does Sechin bite you at night?
                Did Sechin impose sanctions on the GAZ group of companies? It was Sechin who imposed sanctions on the Ural Instrument-Making Plant - with surprise, then, when he discovered in the humanitarian aid the ventilation devices produced at this enterprise?
                Is Sechin arresting my compatriots around the world on far-fetched charges?
                I don’t care what kind of yacht he has there, but I see the cause and effect.

                By denying all this, you become like a dog that bites a stick that beat it, instead of biting a hand that holds that stick.
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                  We are talking about sanctions prohibiting Western banks from giving long-term loans to Russian companies in general.
                  Do Americans bite you at night or something ?? Let them take it in their banks !! Where does the profit go ?? They yelled that these sanctions were useful, but now they feel bad .. And before why didn’t you think about it ?? Sechin, by the way, is a talented manager .. as Putin said .. well, let them show their talent there !!
                  And then what comes out ?? I sent a neighbor, Nyur, a woman in three letters .. she refused to sell milk to me .. Now I'm so talented lying on the couch, and howl from hunger .. and yelling that Nyur doesn’t let me live normally ..

                  I don’t care what kind of yacht he has there, but I see the cause and effect.
                  That's just the yachts - this is the reason and the consequence of the fact that our richest country with "talented" managers, and the "smartest ruler", not only for 20 years can not get up, but more and more crawls into the quagmire from which even such a patriot as you can’t see a way out anymore .. because tomorrow Trump will write us more useful sanctions .. But Putin and Sechin will be out of business as always .. Well, in fact - what complaints can they have if they are just yachts they buy, and sanctions are imposed by evil Americans ..

                  you become like a dog that bites a stick which beat it, instead of biting a hand that holds that stick.
                  I would say that in your case the dog licks both the stick and the hand with which they beat it ..))
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                    Quote: Roman123567
                    Well, let them show their talent there !!

                    So he appears. Taxes go to the state regularly.
                    Quote: Roman123567
                    20 years, not only can’t get up from his knees, but more and more crawls into the quagmire,

                    Yeah, I’m already hard to live, I’m starving, yeah, but at the very least, I’ve earned money on my own house, and with my hump, without any loans.
                    And you have nothing and never will be, because you are all waiting for the good uncle to come and give you everything.
                    Who the hell will give you something - this is capitalism.
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                      So he appears. Taxes go to the state regularly.
                      I, too, regularly pay .. Professionalism then what’s theirs, if everything goes to the Americans, they don’t give Russia life, they don’t pay loans, they’ll get into their pocket ..

                      Yeah, I’m already hard to live, I’m starving, yeah, but at the very least, I’ve earned money on my own house, and with my hump, without any loans.
                      And you have nothing and never will be, because you all expect that a good uncle will come and give you everything.
                      Who the hell will give you something - this is capitalism.


                      It was just that the uncle came, and takes everything .. I will remind the forgotten how it started
                      Over the past 30 years, you directly got into your pocket 5 times. 1991, 1998, 2008, 2014, 2020. Removing from 20 to 100% of money at a time. Retirement time cut by half. Feeding was practiced at all for 7-8 years, and the last 10 only do what they cut. III What kind of cows are you robbing now? Or even on


                      All this is the true truth !!
                      No one wrote that people are waiting for this uncle to give them something. They want him to stop robbing! And this uncle sits, oddly enough, not in America, but in the entire famous Kremlin ..
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                        Quote: Roman123567
                        All this is the true truth !!

                        Yes, you will have nothing, regardless of who is sitting there in the Kremlin. Mark my words.
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                    Sechin, by the way, is a talented manager .. as Putin said ..
                    Clarification. Putin said that Sechin turned out to be a talented manager! Those. he appointed just friendship, but it turned out ... good
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                Quote: Roman123567
                This is how 20 years of mediocre rule can be attributed to the ordinary FLU .. and without any Americans,

                There was such a USSR, it suddenly collapsed, although neither the oligarchs, nor Sechin, nor Rosneft, nor mediocre rule-WASN'T !!!!!!!!!!
                Do not tell me - why all of a sudden ?????
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                  incompetent government - it was not !!!!!!!!!!

                  How was it not mediocre government? And what was the rule of Gorbachev and Yeltsin? But the most mediocre was.
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                    Quote: Fan-Fan
                    incompetent government - it was not !!!!!!!!!!

                    How was it not mediocre government? And what was the rule of Gorbachev and Yeltsin? But the most mediocre was.

                    That is, the CPSU unanimously choosing these mediocre people? Do I understand you correctly? Or are these people separately, but the Communist Party separately ??
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              At 50, I’ll tie up work and am not going to live on a beggarly pension.

              a golden parachute?
              1. Gray brother April 9 2020 14: 33 New
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                Quote: Overlock
                a golden parachute?

                Real estate in Moscow and not only.
                1. Fan-fan April 10 2020 18: 05 New
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                  Well, how many people like you? Itself settled down to fatten, and to spit on other citizens of the country? But someone needs to work, and not just get money from renting apartments.
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                    , and do not care about the rest of the citizens of their country?

                    Especially on people like you. Tighten and try to raise the dough, but do not wait when you bring your piece with a bow.
                    I’m not an oligarch - I’m dragging metal in a warehouse and I’m thinking about how to secure my future, and I haven’t finished it and I’m still hunching it for ten years, and I will equip it for myself and yes - I won’t work, but I will get grandmas.
                    And you can continue to wait for your good uncle.
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                    Quote: Fan-Fan
                    Well, how many people like you? Itself settled down to fatten, and to spit on other citizens of the country? But someone needs to work, and not just get money from renting apartments.

                    ask local wrestlers how to earn money by riveting comments on the Internet !!! wink judging by their constant writings, they "work" here ... also experts in all areas !!! good laughing
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              At 50, I’ll tie up work and am not going to live on a beggarly pension.

              Can I ask? Will you hang in 50, or drown? You do not need a pension, money, according to your own words, from 1990 to 2020 you never had, you won’t work. Just die or go out on the big road.
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                Will you hang in 50, or drown?

                Raise your eyes a little higher.
                Quote: Lannan Shi
                You don’t need a pension,

                I need everything, I just don’t count on it alone.
                Quote: Lannan Shi
                money, in your own words, from 1990 to 2020, you never had

                Why wasn’t it? There were. It’s just that until 2006 I didn’t have such income to save it.
                And when I had enough funds accumulated, I invested them in real estate.
                I took care of the future and now I have a basis due to which you can live, even if it’s all now it will never pay off.
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                Mademoiselle, let me ask you a source of your income? You do not produce anything material, only words. What is the income from? Out of the air. The world will choke on such incomes, and there will be nothing to eat. "One with a bipod - seven with a spoon" continues, only with a "spoon" the contingent increases. If you are in between reports, at least a pair of socks tie for the operator - then you are a plus. And for the empty chatter - sorry, Madame. I would wholeheartedly support you, but alas. I can not. I, as a native of the city of Brides, impress you as a woman, but against how to a man. You do not sow good. Although, as a woman, they must act the other way around. yes
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            And it means us - the Americans ..))

            If American sanctions do not apply to you at all, then you do not live in Russia. They really go into your pocket.
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              What are you saying ?? That is, they are no longer useful ?? Here is this insight ..)) Although, better late than never ..

              Incidentally, American sanctions were more imposed specifically against the oligarchy .. And by the people, Putin has just slashed his "anti-sanctions" ..

              In general, a muddy story .. it seems like everywhere our king is being glorified as the greatest politician, strategist in the international arena .. and what kind of Foreign Ministry we have is cool .. and we bend everyone everywhere .. and there are different mnogohodovochki, and getting up from our knees, and getting off an oil needle, and the transition to the ruble .. But the Americans are kind of stupid .. they don’t know about all this .. And even their useful sanctions harm us .. Maybe, as they say, it was not a bobbin ??
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                And according to the people, Putin just slashed his "anti-sanctions".

                Do you at least understand what you are saying. What universe do you live in?

                Shovel и Gray brother stop communicating with the trolls of the parallel universe, and democrats-inquisitors can burn you at the stake (auto-dof can be imposed in the form of sanctions).
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                  If elementary things do not reach someone, then this is their difficulty ..
                  About Lopativa and his Brother .. you would first read that they are trying to write .. then you would talk about trolls ..))
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                    If you see only what is around your nose and you don’t see further, then your comments may be correct (treading so to speak), but they do not have a future perspective, and if you look into the future, you need to do something to it’s better and here you can’t do without war with neighbors, hardships and difficulties.
                    In other words, if you go to the door and want to go further, then step back a step, open the door and calmly go on.
                    If the previous paragraph is not clear to you (as an offended consumer), then it can be explained differently. I’ve reached a dead end and the wall is in front, then step back before the road in the other direction, but don’t hit the wall and do not shout that the bastards and scum have put a wall here, I wanted a door.
                    It was not you who built this wall and not even power with the president, we did not design these labyrinths and we do not have a plan for the location of all the labyrinths (except those where we already got) and therefore we must look for architects of the current world order and make claims to them.
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          The dollar has risen in price prices in stores have risen, you do not go to stores? Do not pay utility bills? Do you live in the forest?
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            The dollar has risen in price prices in stores have risen, you do not go to stores?

            I don’t know about the dollar - I don’t buy it. How much is a kilogram?
            Where there is some kind of import component has risen in price, it is natural - there will be less to buy such goods because the population of the house is sitting and has no money.
            So this is a manufacturers problem - let them think how they should live on.

            By the way, this week, I have not yet gone to the store, yes)))
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              Where there is some kind of import component has risen in price

              Products from the beginning of the year added 10-15% in price - what is the import there? belay
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                Products from the beginning of the year added 10-15% in price - what is the import there?

                Anything - feed, spare parts for machinery, fertilizers, seeds, palm oil, durum wheat, veterinary products, transportation, a million things.
                I still don’t remember about purely imported food.
                Agriculture in its pure form has long remained exclusively in private gardens, instead of it now the agro-industrial complex is a complex production in which very much to fig.
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                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  feed, spare parts for machinery, fertilizers, seeds, palm oil, durum wheat, veterinary products, transport, a million things.

                  How so, you (zaputintsy) have always claimed that this is all domestic for us for a long time? belay
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                    How so, you (zaputintsy) have always claimed that this is all domestic for us for a long time?

                    Wow, when did they say that? How did you famously label me that - I don’t like what I'm writing? Breaking your sweet brawl?
                    Does it bake? I don’t even know how to help you - attach a chilly little tunnel.
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                      Wow, when did they say that?

                      I will not say for you personally, but I EXACTLY remember that several people here proved it to me. That our agriculture is almost completely import-substituted.
                      Quote: Gray Brother
                      How you famously put a label on me

                      You consistently uphold the actions of the existing government, albeit moderately. This allows me to rank you among the Zaputinians. request
                      In terms of price increases - all this is easily stopped with the help of the FAS. If she will do her job normally. In the EU, if the producer has reduced costs and the cost of raw materials falls, he is obliged to lower the price of finished products. Otherwise, the FAS will impose a fine. And we have .... A gas station in one word.
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                        I will not say for you personally, but I EXACTLY remember that several people here proved it to me. That our agriculture is almost completely import-substituted.

                        Do you eat macaroni? They are made from durum wheat, which in Russia does not grow in the right amount - the climate is not the same.
                        You can’t replace everything at all and you cannot force a manufacturer to buy domestic if imported is cheaper.
                        When the ruble exchange rate falls, everyone who relies on imports automatically gets money, this is natural. It’s their own fault.
                        Life will beat such long and painfully, until it comes to them that the pursuit of maximum profit is more expensive than safety.
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                        Life will beat such a long and painful

                        The problem is that they hit the people, and defective managers get bonuses even with losses. And they don’t learn anything.
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                        and defective managers receive bonuses even with losses.

                        If they were able to competently minimize losses, then the bonuses are well-deserved.

                        But the profit is not made by them, but by the owners of the companies.
                        And usually this doesn’t happen like that, and I saw it with my own eyes - first the profit falls, hence the conclusion that it is necessary to cut costs - they begin to lay off workers, cut wages, buy lower-quality goods for production needs, etc., profit grows - it seems everything is right, then the crisis ends and it turns out that your employees ran up to their competitors and there is no one to work stupidly, and in general it would be necessary to reduce the rented space because there is not enough money.
                        And then the founders of the company take both the managers and the general director for the trunk, and are interested in them on the topic “what is it and where is the loot”, after which these wonderful people look for another job.
                        I worked in one office, where such friends managed to gain a billion rubles more in the 2008 crisis, so they raised one current in a normal year, and then two at once - geniuses, yeah)))
                        Today, half of the employees scattered with all the key specialists at the head.
                        And that’s all - they were a leader in their field, but they became a third-rate rubbish bin and remain to this day.
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                        If they were able to competently minimize losses, then the bonuses are well-deserved.

                        Oh how! Losses can be minimized in different ways. You can increase production, but you can reduce staff. We often go along the second path. But the point is not even that, but how the effectiveness of these "specialists" is evaluated. And do not forget that bonuses are bonuses, and bonuses are always paid for the successful operation of the enterprise, and not to minimize losses. And these "defective" year after year show stable loss-making, and at the same time, their premiums. And they must fire.
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                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Oh how! Losses can be minimized in different ways. You can increase production, but you can reduce staff.

                        Damn, you enter me into a stupor - it is impossible to increase unprofitable production.
                        It makes no sense to produce a product for which there is no demand.
                        No need to tell me for efficiency - I can put a company in killing a barrel and I can put a company in killing a barrel for a month.
                        Bonuses and prizes are orders and medals of the capitalists.
                        Tya was dismissed with an award pistol and not put in order not to scare the rest of the points
    2. smart ass April 9 2020 14: 33 New
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      I’ll tell you a terrible secret, the price of the dollar has touched almost all goods and we will pay for it.
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        Quote: Clever man
        I’ll tell you a terrible secret, the price of the dollar has touched almost all goods and we will pay for it.

        - Dad, vodka has risen in price! Will you drink less now? - No, son, you’ll eat less!
        Producers will receive less money and they will have to think about how to earn more, sooner or later everything will come to a common denominator.
        I see no reason to look at every crisis as if it were the last day of Pompeii.
  • mole April 9 2020 14: 22 New
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    Quote: Gray Brother
    Quote: Lannan Shi
    don't you pull?

    When I was "climbed into my pocket," I had nothing there, moreover, since 1998, our American friends have climbed there exclusively through loans and sanctions.
    I’m just pulling and I live at my own expense, so I don’t depend on handouts - anestend?
    But the one who lives on a freebie is always vulnerable, they will block the faucet and amba.

    OK!
    How did the schoolchildren answer me the question: "When is Victory Day on Victory?"
    One of the answers after divining on the "coffee grounds" was: "May 8!"
    I replied that he was wrong and that May 9!
    What I got: OK!
    "Anderstand?"
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      OK!
      How did the schoolchildren answer me the question: "When is Victory Day on Victory?"
      One of the answers after divining on the "coffee grounds" was: "May 8!"
      I replied that he was wrong and that May 9!
      What I got: OK!
      "Anderstand?"

      Summer mi Speak in May Hart.
  • Ross xnumx April 9 2020 12: 51 New
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    Quote: Lannan Shi
    Over the past 30 years, you directly got into your pocket 5 times. 1991, 1998, 2008, 2014, 2020.

    I will refresh your memory. In 1991-1993, inflation depreciated deposits (according to official figures) by 3 360% or 33 times !!! The biggest leap in 6 was - 1992%.
    Then came the voucher privatization of Chubais, when we were again “thrown” to distribute “public property” ...
    And one more "kidok" - compensation of deposits by Sberbank ...
    In general, we simply held hands in our pocket, and we all tried to put together some semblance of wealth.
    And after 2018, the authorities began the total looting and genocide of the population, forcing it to work to death and taxing it like ... well, you know ...
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      And after 2018, the authorities began the total looting and genocide of the population.

      Ага.
      And before that, what happened? Blessed nineties, with a total rise in wealth?

      If you compare, for example, 2018-2020 and 1998-2000, then, damn it, I don’t even know what to think .... Either I am not a plundered population, or someone has absolutely no memory ...
      1. Roman123567 April 9 2020 13: 07 New
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        Ага.
        And before that, what happened? Blessed nineties, with a total rise in wealth?
        Before asking, try to read the previous post from the very beginning ..))

        I will refresh your memory. In 1991-1993, inflation depreciated deposits (according to official figures) by 3 360% or 33 times !!! The biggest leap in 6 was - 1992%.
        Then came the voucher privatization of Chubais, when we were again “thrown” to distribute “public property” ...
        And one more "kidok" - compensation of deposits by Sberbank ...
        In general, we simply held hands in our pocket, and we all tried to put together some semblance of wealth.
        And after 2018, the authorities began the total looting and genocide of the population, forcing it to work to death and taxing it like ... well, you know ...
        1. Lopatov April 9 2020 13: 16 New
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          Quote: Roman123567
          Before asking, try to read the previous post from the very beginning ..))

          So I read it. Except from others.

          That is, a person does not consider what the Communists staged in the 90s as "total genocide and plunder."
          They supposedly started in 2018.
          And before that, what happened? When "inflation depreciated deposits ... by 3 360% or 33 times !!!" ? Never a loot? And the rivers of blood spilled in Central Asia and the Caucasus have never been genocide, did it also begin in 6?
          1. Roman123567 April 9 2020 14: 25 New
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            So I read it. Except from others.

            That is, a person does not consider what the Communists staged in the 90s as "total genocide and plunder."
            They supposedly started in 2018.
            There is a countdown from the age of 91 .. about 18 - the last paragraph .. Is it really forgotten how to really read ?? Or is it just so convenient to pretend ?? I will copy again .. just do not rush ..
            I will refresh your memory. In 1991-1993, inflation depreciated deposits (according to official figures) by 3 360% or 33 times !!! The biggest leap in 6 was - 1992%.
            Then came the voucher privatization of Chubais, when we were again “thrown” to distribute “public property” ...
            And one more "kidok" - compensation of deposits by Sberbank ...
            In general, we simply held hands in our pocket, and we all tried to put together some semblance of wealth.
            And after 2018, the authorities began the total looting and genocide of the population, forcing it to work to death and taxing it like ... well, you know ...
          2. mole April 9 2020 14: 30 New
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            The Communists have nothing to do with it, political workers. An article on potential oil winners.
          3. tatra April 9 2020 18: 38 New
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            If you consider Yeltsin to be the enemies of the Communists imposed on Russia and the Russian people as a Communist in 1991 because he was a member of the CPSU under the rule of the Communists, then why do not you consider the Communist Party a member of the CPSU Putin, in which all Russian enemies of the Communists have foam mouth "prove to the supporters of the communists how" and now is better than under the communists in the USSR "?
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        If you compare, for example, 2018-2020 and 1998-2000, then, damn it, I don’t even know what to think .... Either I am not a plundered population, or someone has absolutely no memory ...

        1998-2000 - GDP per capita at PPP (purchasing power parity) 6 thousand per year, 2018-2020 on average 28, - that’s the whole difference of more than 4 times.
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        If you lower it at the beginning below the baseboard and then loosen the oxygen supply valve, it will. PR!
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      Then came the voucher privatization of Chubais, when we were again “thrown” to distribute “public property” ...

      Che about the default do not write? Is the memory selective? Remind me how I repaid my debts for Yeltsin’s ghouls?
      There were no sanctions either? Was there no crisis of 2008?
      1. Roman123567 April 9 2020 13: 08 New
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        Thank you for adding to the list of "achievements" of our government ..
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          Quote: Roman123567
          Thank you for adding to the list of "achievements" of our government ..

          And what about the Dow Jones in 2008, too, are they?
          Of course I apologize, but you are dumb.
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            Do not apologize .. like you it is excusable ..))
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          Thank you for adding to the list of "achievements" of our government ..

          Especially touching in this list is the date 2014.
          I agree, the Russian authorities were guilty then. The fact that they took the ownerless Crimea. Having received sanctions and other "goodies" for the people and the state. Including a sharp rise in the dollar.

          And when in VO such an actor as many as twelve pluses put, it starts to strain me ...
          1. Paranoid50 April 9 2020 13: 53 New
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            it starts to strain ...

            Don’t pay attention - it’s just a herd instinct, in this case due to the reaction to the “key phrase” of the sketch. yes
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              Quote: Paranoid50
              Don’t pay attention - just a herd instinct,

              not at all ... in this case, the politokras and comments devoted to him by the riveters !!! wink wassat
          2. Ingvar 72 April 9 2020 14: 11 New
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            Quote: Spade
            Having received sanctions and other "goodies" for the people and the state. Including a sharp rise in the dollar.

            Yes, you finally understand that against the background of this it was possible to carry out industrialization of the country, but this was not done. After that, the Russian spring was "merged", and the Donbass hovered in an incomprehensible state.
            1. Vadim237 April 9 2020 14: 38 New
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              Russia already had industrialization before the 60th - then post-industrialization was needed, but the Soviet leadership scored and pushed it. Now the market dictates to all of us who are engaged in production their conditions - how much he will need will produce as much to the warehouse and produce in order to produce no one will be engaged. How much was ordered - so much was produced. There will be demand, there will be supply, there will be no demand, and there will be no supply and production, respectively. And it is no secret that in Russia far from everything is profitable to produce. We occupy and hold our niches since we are far from alone in the market.
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                Quote: Vadim237
                Now the market dictates to all of us who are engaged in production their conditions - how much he will need will produce as much to the warehouse and produce in order to produce no one will be engaged.

                Do not carry nonsense, Vadik. You would tell all this to the Chinese, they would definitely shoot you at the nearest stadium. We have everything, resources, a domestic market, so far fully occupied by China, and talented people. With all these sources, you need to try very hard to bring the country to its current state.
                1. Vadim237 April 9 2020 20: 45 New
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                  And here China - its economy from the 70s has been marketed, and the West, as well as technology, has pumped up a lot, plus a large and cheap labor force and very cheap energy sources for the whole industry. So China has become what it is now. We have everything - except for sales markets where all this will be bought in the volumes we need. Here is the original storytellers for you - come to terms with this.
              2. Irokez April 9 2020 15: 51 New
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                All right
                In these conditions, you can’t jump over production above the roof because to do it at the warehouse is to lose working money and you can then go bankrupt.
                We need to expand our markets or try to capture them from our partners, and we can always do what we can do (if only transnational business sharks do not interfere, but interfere).
                1. Ingvar 72 April 9 2020 16: 53 New
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                  Quote: Irokez
                  It is necessary to expand markets or try to capture them from partners

                  This can be done only under the conditions of the correct tax policy, the correct credit policy of the Central Bank and, naturally, with the introduction of additional excise taxes on imports.
                  1. Irokez April 9 2020 16: 55 New
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                    It’s possible correctly, but rather, it’s not so simple and easy to take it like that and implement it all at once, you can also break firewood.
                  2. Ingvar 72 April 9 2020 20: 12 New
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                    Quote: Irokez
                    you can break firewood

                    They are afraid of wolves, do not go to the forest. request The collapsed oil and quarantine prices in China showed the true price of our "import-substituted" economy.
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                    She didn’t show anything - we do the ventilation ourselves, like everything else. There are only problems with masks, but even China will not be able to produce such a volume per day.
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                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    showed the true price of our "import-substituted" economy.

                    You are the cutest supercritical or just with a short memory and can not appreciate the events for several years. You need everything right away and this hour, but this never happens (never repeat).
                    You look only for the negative in the country and eat and feed on it and do not want to (or even specifically reject it), that which is being restored or built bit by bit and in time. It's all your fault (well, except yourself beloved).
                    Such a one-sided opinion on events is overly critical and you can’t explain anything or convince you. It makes no sense. Find at least a small positive in Russia and start living it, and at least it should console and please you. I can’t help with anything else, if anything, then only contact a psychologist.
                    Well, by the way, there is a positive, not you are the only one here on the site you have many colleagues. no
                  5. Ingvar 72 April 10 2020 19: 37 New
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                    You are looking for only the negative in the country

                    Do you need to look for him? belay Its every day more around. The birth rate of the Russian population is falling every day, the government every time "caring" for the people makes everything worse. It was during Putin’s rule that 50% of hospitals in the country were “optimized”, the results of which we are now reaping. I am silent about pension reform and tax increases. But you offer me to close my eyes, and look for positive. Cool. Relax, think about the pleasant and have fun. Thanks for the tip, but I'm not a masochist. And I care about the future of my people.
                  6. Irokez April 10 2020 20: 41 New
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                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    The birth rate of the Russian population is falling every day,

                    After these lines, should the government go to the masses and forcefully impregnate women? Well, you can and you - you're conscious, and all the women of Russia are not conscious. Take the initiative yourself.

                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    every time the government "caring" for the people makes it worse

                    Do you want to say that the government does not need and "come on Anarchy"?

                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    It was during Putin’s rule that 50% of hospitals in the country were “optimized”, the results of which we are now reaping.

                    What exactly was optimized there? I’m just not in the know?

                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    I am silent about pension reform and tax increases.

                    So they retired earlier than in other civilized countries (in the United States, for example, 67 years for girls and boys - count Karl), but about taxes, I did not understand 13% a little or a lot compared to other countries?

                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    But you offer me to close my eyes

                    That’s just the fact that in response to you, I heated up and open my eyes and take off the virtual glasses that the democratization’s civilization put before your eyes, and now you play on them without seeing the true reality in the country.
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                Quote: Ingvar 72
                They are afraid of wolves, do not go to the forest.

                so your hunchback in the late 80s thought !!! wink negative
  • Roman123567 April 9 2020 14: 35 New
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    That is, on the remaining dates I already agree that people were robbed ??)
    Robbed before the age of 14 .. robbed after 14 and now ..
    Well .. let it be as if in the year 14 it was the other way around .. We are writing to the fact that the moons converged so ..


    In general, the authorities there are sitting there to think about the people, and be responsible for their actions .. and there is nothing to justify this thoughtlessness by the Crimea .. We can also attach China to ourselves .. we still have little of our land ..
    And then yell - Norway and the Emirates live well because they have a very small population, and the territory is small ..
  • AU Ivanov. April 9 2020 14: 32 New
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    And now we have inflation at what level. Google or suggest?
  • Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 01: 09 New
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    Quote: ROSS 42
    genocide of the population

    what and you all write and write everything on your last coupons !!! wassat laughing
  • Nastia makarova April 9 2020 13: 54 New
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    no need to worry about us
  • Nikolai Korovin April 9 2020 14: 30 New
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    They climbed directly in 1991 and 1998. In 1991, perhaps stronger. In 1992, savings were sprayed, and in 1998 there were none - and nothing, somehow managed. In 2008 - yes, prices increased slightly nonlinearly, but salaries also increased, and in 2014 the population’s ability to purchase foreign tours and imports decreased, that's all. Prices for domestic products have changed little. The same thing in 2020. So far I do not see a large increase in prices for domestic products. It even happens the other way around, the eggs at Dixie have fallen in price. That they entered quarantine, that the entire food service was closed - right. The uncontrolled spread of this very unpleasant infection cannot be allowed. You don’t want us to have 2000 dead for this reason every day, like in a shining city on a hill? And the starting conditions were the same. American medicine, unlike ours, of course, far from ideal, turned out to be completely untenable.

    People in a difficult situation compensate for something. At the very least, unemployment benefits have been increased to a size at which you can somehow hold out until you find work, support for low-income families with children is very significant. While alive, things can be corrected, and if you throw back your hooves - excuse me ... People somehow get out of the situation. For example, I know a designer of inexpensive, but original clothes that sold small volumes. I switched to sewing masks. Takes 350 rubles per mask. Take packs. I think that for him the crisis is over, and even vice versa - it will come out of the crisis with significant profits. And the government of the Russian Federation should not be blamed for the global crisis that arose because of the coronavirus. Russia, of course, was also affected, but less than many other countries, by the way. There is no explosive growth in deaths, and the virus virulence is decreasing every day, it becomes less dangerous - this is a natural process. The increase in the number of detected infections should not be confusing - they began to do more tests. That's like Sberbank resumed work in full - a good sign.
    1. Revival April 10 2020 05: 29 New
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      “People who are in a difficult situation are compensated for. At least, unemployment benefits have been increased to the extent that they can somehow hold out until you find a job.”
      You do not know apparently ..
      What a benefit you can hold out on !?
      Example! SP legal, I pay all taxes and fees, etc. It is impossible to work now because of decisions from above (there is no income, the courts do not work). We rent apartments 30000r. etc.
      So, no allowance is due! And what to live for?
      And where is the state? Reset to zero?
      Compare with help programs in Germany, USA
  • Gray brother April 9 2020 20: 27 New
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    Pleased with the ratio of votes, in my comment. The devils are dancing, but you and I will kick them in full, and with multiculturalism, Kadyrov’s tares will figure it out - he has experience.
  • Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 00: 57 New
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    Quote: Gray Brother
    Busters

    rzhachnaya clicker !!! laughing laughing good
  • Thrifty April 9 2020 12: 30 New
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    Hausites can stabilize the oil price when rockets cover Saudi wells. ..
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      Quote: Thrifty
      ... Hausites ..

      members of the House of fans fan order?
    2. Andobor April 9 2020 13: 58 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      Hausites can stabilize the oil price when rockets cover Saudi wells. ..

      Let the Americans and the Hausites take a steam bath (the Saudis seem to have problems with democracy), they need more, they urgently need to save the shale, and they know how. The whole familiar world is collapsing, while we are clearly losing the least, but also losing - there is no war without loss.
      - Russia with current prices can live for more than 5 years without cutting costs.
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        Yes, it’s a pity that the people in Russia for 5 years will not be able to.
        Although this people still think about it.
        So?
  • ccsr April 9 2020 12: 31 New
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    Meanwhile, it became known that the Saudi Arabia Sovereign Fund began to buy stakes in European oil and gas companies, taking advantage of the reduction in their quotes in the face of falling oil prices and the coronavirus pandemic.

    But was it not for the sake of this that the entire demarche of the Saudis was planned - maybe this was their main goal, to squeeze the Americans out of the European market.
  • Mexican. 29 April 9 2020 12: 32 New
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    If only the Russian population would benefit ...
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      Quote: Mexican.29
      If only the Russian population would benefit ...

      From what? Let me ask.
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        Populist chatter, do not pay attention
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      Quote: Mexican.29
      If only the Russian population would benefit ...

      What is the gain? When two teams play on the field, the fans in the stands can only shout or smash each other's faces ... wassat And then, after the match ...
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        What is the gain? When two teams play on the field, the fans in the stands can only yell or smash their faces ... wassat And then, after the match ...

        Blessed dualism.
        When necessary "The Russian state is completely dependent on oil prices because it sits on a hydrocarbon needle"
        When necessary, “When there are two teams on the field, fans”

        Extremely handy for discussions. But from the side it looks so-so.

        They say that Gazprom’s payments alone are greater than the budget of Ukraine.
    3. Stalllker April 9 2020 13: 03 New
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      And how does this relate to you, me and others ????
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        Quote: Stalllker
        And how does this relate to you, me and others ????

        Completely. Unfortunately. our state is very dependent on the sale of hydrocarbons abroad.
        Yes, that was the case under the USSR, but over time, dependence only intensifies. Despite the oath promises to "get off the needle" and a bunch of rubles spent.
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          It doesn’t concern you personally
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            Quote: Stalllker
            It doesn’t concern you personally

            It doesn't concern you personally. As a person who does not live on the territory of the Russian Federation.
            And it concerns me. Like all Russian citizens
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              When a country like Siberia appears, then I will not be a citizen of the Russian Federation
              1. Lopatov April 10 2020 08: 05 New
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                Quote: Stalllker
                When a country like Siberia appears, then I will not be a citizen of the Russian Federation

                Then you are a liar
                For not a single resident of Russia can say that the affairs of oil producers "do not concern him"
                Everything that the state does is made with money, a significant part of which falls into the budget from these very producers and sellers of hydrocarbons.
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          It doesn’t concern you personally
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          Enough of your anti-Soviet myths already, the USSR began to receive large revenues from oil exports only after 1979, and they amounted to only 9% of the maximum in USSR revenues. Despite the fact that after the capture of Russia by maniacal critics of the USSR, on average, oil export revenues account for 40-50% of Russia's budget revenues, and as long as they own Russia, it will still be a poor, backward raw materials appendage and a market for foreign products of production, science , education, intelligence. And they will continue to chant in chorus "and we have nothing to do with it, it's all the Communists to blame", "and we have nothing to do with it, it was in the USSR, we still disentangle it."
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            Quote: tatra
            The USSR began to receive large revenues from oil exports only after 1979, and they amounted to only 9% of the maximum in USSR income. Despite the fact that after the capture of Russia by manic critics of the USSR, on average, oil export revenues account for 40-50% of Russia's budget revenues

            See how cool.
            For the USSR, you consider only the oil itself.
            For Russia, all hydrocarbons plus related industries.
            Quote: tatra
            Enough of your myths




            Quote: tatra
            and while they own Russia, it will be a poor, backward raw materials appendage

            Better to be an “advanced country”?
            With a total deficit, cards for everything from meat to cabinets and women's boots, with huge investments in agriculture with constant purchases of even grain, with traitors in the upper echelons of power, which eventually ruined the country ....
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            In fact, already 25% of the budget revenues from the sale of oil and gas are the percentage for 2019 - So you can whistle further.
          3. Hypatius April 10 2020 04: 44 New
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            Money, not Ikarus, the USSR received 3%. And he allowed them to purchase CNC and robots.
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          Because the goals are completely different, and mediocrity
  • Cowbra April 9 2020 12: 42 New
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    There will be a jump in prices - and a sharp one - when quarantine is removed everywhere. In the meantime, the only point is to explain to the guys in bathrobes that you can bark at Russia only at home, sitting in a deep bunker - and still whisper
    1. Stalllker April 9 2020 13: 05 New
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      The issue is not the removal of quarantine itself, but the volume of oil consumption
      1. Cowbra April 9 2020 13: 44 New
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        Are there reasons for the decrease? And which ones?
        1. Stalllker April 9 2020 13: 56 New
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          And what is the essence of your question, I don’t understand at all ?!
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            It is such that how quarantine is removed - only then can it be transported as a human being - as long as quarantine is everywhere, and the fuel is burned all the same. Surely different India with China - with dry tanks sitting. The question is not even in the daily consumption, for example. Consumption is now, it is difficult to carry.
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              You look out the window, cars in the yard are, as in the whole world. Who burns your fuel ????
              1. Cowbra April 9 2020 17: 05 New
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                And I have another window at the CHP. No, imagine it works! And as far as the courses, it’s not at all coal! I went to the store - they also carry products to them. And I was tempted to dodge watering on the streets. Does public and special transport plow? And now
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                  On coal or gas, fuel oil is used only for igniting coal, for reference. And no one told you that consumption is zero, it has decreased and greatly
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                    And deliveries, it seems, are at least spot - in general, to zero, so that will be exact. About quarantined tankers - at the beginning of MARCH, there was infa
  • Rambam April 9 2020 12: 43 New
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    So what’s the victory of Russia?
  • Finn April 9 2020 12: 49 New
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    Quote: Gray Brother
    Quote: Mexican.29
    If only the Russian population would benefit ...

    From what? Let me ask.

    Well, what about? Oil companies will win, pay more taxes and the state will throw another 200 rubles per month for pensions).
  • Roman123567 April 9 2020 12: 52 New
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    Saudi Arabia, which disrupted the OPEC + deal and hoped to receive some dividends from it, was the loser. According to the Turkish edition of Anadolu, Russia was ready for the consequences and eventually won
    Can we find out more precisely what the CA lost, and what did we win ?? What are the losses of the Saudis ?? How much extra money will our budget receive as a result of this victory ?? Maybe some reparations are implied from them to us ?? Specifically for the population of the Russian Federation what will be the dividends from this victory ?? Well, at least something is possible ??

    Meanwhile, according to experts, the new OPEC agreement will have little effect on the oil market; the fall in demand and oil prices will continue, regardless of quotas for future production cuts.
    And against this background, it’s not at all clear .. is it true that the “war” has ended, and can you already look for winners ??
    1. Stalllker April 9 2020 13: 06 New
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      Victory for the sake of victory !!!))))
    2. Nastia makarova April 9 2020 13: 57 New
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      not tired of writing nonsense in every topic?
      1. Roman123567 April 9 2020 15: 15 New
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        Tired of reading bogus in every topic ..))
        However, the girls are excusable .. they are not invented for this ..
        1. Nastia makarova April 9 2020 15: 27 New
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          just don’t say that it comes down to sex
          1. Roman123567 April 9 2020 15: 54 New
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            You could not answer any of these questions ..
            Can we find out more precisely what the CA lost, and what did we win ?? What are the losses of the Saudis ?? How much extra money will our budget receive as a result of this victory ?? Maybe some reparations are implied from them to us ?? Specifically for the population of the Russian Federation what will be the dividends from this victory ?? Well, at least something is possible ??


            So I won’t say what it comes down to ..))
  • Qwertyarion April 9 2020 12: 52 New
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    . Meanwhile, according to experts, the new OPEC agreement will have little effect on the oil market; the fall in demand and oil prices will continue, regardless of quotas for future production cuts.

    For the price of fuel at gas stations, for some reason, it is not at all noticeable that oil is getting cheaper.
    The riddle however .....
    Probably we do not need cheap gasoline ...
    1. Stalllker April 9 2020 13: 11 New
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      Do not forget that about 13 rubles per liter is only excise tax, plus the cost of raw materials, processing, margin of the refinery, plus delivery to the gas station, plus the margin of the gas station. To hell with the terms
      1. Ingvar 72 April 9 2020 14: 18 New
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        Quote: Stalllker
        To hell with the terms

        In Egypt, oil is practically not produced, they buy and process it at the same costs. The cost of a liter of 92nd 25 rubles. What am I talking about Egypt - the price of gasoline in Kazakhstan is 15 rubles per liter. They buy oil from us. wink
        1. Stalllker April 9 2020 15: 28 New
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          The Kazakhs do not buy oil from us, but process and get gasoline. They pay for processing and are free to set whatever prices they want on their gasoline
          1. Ingvar 72 April 9 2020 16: 40 New
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            Quote: Stalllker
            Kazakhs do not buy oil from us, but process and receive gasoline

            Buy (!), And recycle.
            Quote: Stalllker
            Pay for processing

            How is it? belay They do not pay, they process it themselves. And for some reason, the price of gasoline is 15 rubles, taking into account the oil purchased from us (!). Are you familiar with pricing principles?
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              In Pavlodar, Ai92 = 151 tenge, this is clearly not 15 rubles, balabol
              1. Ingvar 72 April 9 2020 19: 57 New
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                Quote: Stalllker
                this is clearly not 15 rubles, balabol

                This is you old man boor, but I just made a mistake. laughing Further - even at a price of 25 rubles, gasoline in Kazakhstan is almost two times cheaper. And at least half of it is from our oil.
                In fact, that the price is too high, is there anything to say? Indeed, the cost of oil refining in Kazakhstan and ours is almost the same.
                1. Stalllker April 10 2020 01: 18 New
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                  This suggests that you are a balabol, to trust you as our deputies
                  1. Fan-fan April 10 2020 18: 21 New
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                    I can confirm that Siberian oil comes to the Pavlodar oil refinery through an oil pipeline from Omsk. And I can confirm that gasoline in Kazakhstan is cheaper than in Russia. Not only gasoline - bread, but all products, vodka and transportation are also cheaper. Only drugs in pharmacies are more expensive.
                2. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 01: 21 New
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                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  This is you old man boor, but I just made a mistake.

                  there it is, as it is now, otmazyvayutsya from balabolstva !! wassat lol
                  1. Ingvar 72 April 11 2020 12: 45 New
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                    And do you sister all win yourself a rating? wink Stupid comment on the day before yesterday branch, but at once how many pluses! good What, comments "hello" and "how are you" is already missing? wink
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                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      And do you sister all win yourself a rating? wink Stupid comment on the day before yesterday branch, but at once how many pluses! good What, comments "hello" and "how are you" is already missing? wink

                      and you continue to stupidly otmazyvatsya from balabolstva !! wassat
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                        As I expected, your “no-brainer” order is not capable of adequate answers. Your minus is everything! good Mummers are you, and narrow-minded. In real life, you are worthless.laughing
          2. Revival April 10 2020 05: 39 New
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            Why are they free and we are not?
            Something I did not understand from your logic, so why are they cheaper than ours?
            Or is it our main task to tear off money to the maximum in any situation, if only from our own people, and that is the whole difference?
    2. Avior April 9 2020 15: 42 New
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      somewhere and declining smile

      https://autotraveler.ru/ukraine/dinamika-izmenenija-cen-na-benzin-v-ukraine.html#.Xo7wItSLS9I
      who else clearly explained what was happening what
  • Machete April 9 2020 12: 53 New
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    With such a meager price at which no one wants to take this oil, no one will win.

    Here IT began to understand all sides of the "conflict".

    There is a wild excess of oil products in the world, since nothing flies and rides. Nothing is, of course, an exaggeration, but the decline in all types of passenger and cargo transportation has fallen significantly and there will be an excess of oil for months. And prices, according to science, should not rise at all. But the laws of the market in the case of oil do not work much, so anything can be expected.
  • Gardamir April 9 2020 12: 54 New
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    And before this article I read other experts. They also convincingly told how Russia lost.
    One thing I can say oil is now much cheaper, but gasoline did not notice. Now oil has started to rise in price, gasoline ... well, you understand.
  • Nikolay87 April 9 2020 12: 56 New
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    This is not a victory. There are no winners, everyone lost, it’s just that our ultimate strength was higher. Does this make us winners? Not in this case. The reduction deal will not help, the reduction needs to be 10 times more, to 100-150 million barrels, and for this it is necessary that the rest be reduced, and they are "red", they do not want. They want us to raise prices due to our reduction, and they will work with old volumes ... some kind of crap .... naive.
    1. Roman123567 April 9 2020 13: 14 New
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      they lost everything, it’s just that our ultimate strength was higher. Does this make us winners?


      Abramovich "clashed" with a homeless person at a bus stop, who would spend longer in a pool without pants and without food .. Oddly enough, the homeless person had a higher tensile strength .. he even fell asleep there .. And won ..))
    2. carstorm 11 April 9 2020 13: 31 New
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      here the fact that no one besides the Saudis is fighting is more important) in my opinion they have been trying to fight with themselves all this time. in our case, it is only important for us that the states begin to reduce themselves and maintain their markets. nobody else ever said anything else.
  • APASUS April 9 2020 12: 57 New
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    I would like to understand what meaning the author wanted to put in this material? What exactly did Russia win, the author did not write ........................
    1. Sergej1972 April 9 2020 13: 33 New
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      This is a view of a Turkish author.
  • Bomb April 9 2020 13: 00 New
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    I will say this: who will win there, and who will lose altogether because in any case, in fact, the increase in gas prices will not rust. We have such a national tradition. Little money to the brothers Sechin, Miller and the gop company. Further, everyone can determine a causal relationship for himself. The victory of Russia should be felt by people who live in Russia, raise children in Russia and work in Russia.
  • rocket757 April 9 2020 13: 01 New
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    Lost / won ???? You still have to CONSENT! For large, serious uncles, this only happens ... the art of compromise has not been invented today.
    Whose position in the negotiations will be stronger, SEE.
  • Moon April 9 2020 13: 04 New
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    Something I sat on Anadolu, (Russian version https://www.aa.com.tr/ru)
    I didn’t find the original source, because, as usual, neither the title of the article nor the link .. So a free retelling with a link to the agency and not to a specific article with a specific link. Go find ... in cases where you can always say that everything is wrong.
    Here is the main article hanging on the agency

    Cheap oil slows down the economy of oil-producing countries
    Most oil export-dependent states are located in the Middle East and Africa.

    The analysis of the article is extremely disappointing for all oil producers.
    I did not find a separate article about the “defeat” of only CA. There everyone lost in the short term.
    In all articles for the Turks is good. Oil is cheaper.
    By the way, I dig a bunch of information. The Turks delivered oil and oil products to the Russian Federation, Yu fresh vegetables and products .. The Chernobyl fire was extinguished ..
    Hmm. Climbed for one, found out a bunch of everything ..
  • syndicalist April 9 2020 13: 09 New
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    On the same event, you can always find opposite estimates. Here, for example, on the first line of Yandex news:
    Russia is forced to surrender to the ultimatum of Saudi Arabia.

    Well, further on Russia's unilateral agreement to reduce production by 10%, as a condition for continuing dialogue with the SA.
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    Depending on the outcome of the OPEC meeting on oil, the United States prepared several options for responding to the situation.
    US President Donald Trump is ready to increase duties on the import of raw materials into the United States or introduce new sanctions against Russia to end the price war on the oil market. The White House plan was revealed by The Wall Street Journal.
    It is reported that Trump discussed the situation with the leaders of American oil companies, senators and congressmen. According to sources, the United States may impose duties on imported oil based on a trade law that had previously been applied to China in the framework of the trade war. In addition, a tougher option is allowed - the introduction of new sanctions against Russia.


    This is great! ..))
    1. carstorm 11 April 9 2020 13: 33 New
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      There is a difference between China and us. we have a penny turnover with the states. it’s impossible to put pressure on China at all.
  • sanik2020 April 9 2020 13: 16 New
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    It’s not a victory or even a cease-fire, it’s just the usual regrouping before a new skirmish.
    Not so du / RAC / and it all started, there is a struggle for survival.
    1. Victorio April 9 2020 13: 34 New
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      Quote: sanik2020
      It’s not a victory or even a cease-fire, it’s just the usual regrouping before a new skirmish.
      Not so du / CANCER / and it was all up to, there is a struggle for survival.

      ===
      quite, here are the options: // The Saudi Arabia Sovereign Fund (Public Investment Fund, PIF) began to buy stakes in European oil and gas companies, taking advantage of the reduction in their quotes amid falling oil prices and the coronavirus pandemic //
  • Victorio April 9 2020 13: 16 New
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    Meanwhile, according to experts, the new OPEC agreement will have little effect on the oil market; the fall in demand and oil prices will continue, regardless of quotas for future production cuts.
    ==
    MDA, do not return the ruble to its previous position
  • voyaka uh April 9 2020 13: 31 New
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    Oil importers benefited from the collapse in oil prices: China, India, Europe (except Norway).
    Lost all, without exception, oil exporters. The larger the exporter, the greater the loss.
    The USA is both an importer and exporter. Winning and losing at the same time. Zero in the remainder.
    1. syndicalist April 9 2020 13: 41 New
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      The USA is both an importer and exporter. Winning and losing at the same time. Zero in the remainder.

      In addition to the arithmetic balance of imports and exports, there is also the benefit of the economy from low prices for raw materials and energy. This benefit is greater the more powerful the economy.
    2. Andobor April 9 2020 15: 00 New
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      The USA is both an importer and exporter. Winning and losing at the same time. Zero in the remainder.

      It is in Russia
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Zero in the remainder.
      because we ourselves consume half of the oil we produce — we sell ourselves, half to foreign markets. And in the United States, a ban on oil production is coming, because it’s expensive, and there are not only shales, and the shelf and Canadian sands, the same states control.
      In the year 14, they refused to sell us equipment for the production of “difficult”, expensive oil, and we forbade them to extract it in the 20th and, accordingly, to produce such equipment. Of course, they can be fenced with duties, but it's just a delay in the end. Trump is happy, he would be reelected.
    3. iouris April 9 2020 22: 09 New
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      Aircraft do not fly. Etc. Some of the exporters are banging for everyone's pleasure. And who will it be? Vague doubts torment me.
    4. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 01: 26 New
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      The USA is both an importer and exporter. Winning and losing at the same time. Zero in the remainder.

      in general, grunted amers ... do not forget in particular about f35 grunt !! wassat lol
  • dgonni April 9 2020 13: 43 New
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    The expert’s strange opinion, especially considering the statements that Russian type oil production is cheaper than that of the Saudis. Well, the author could throw a link to the article and let the readers of VO draw their own conclusions!
    (https://www.aa.com.tr/en/energy/oil/sarabia-concedes-defeat-in-its-price-war-against-russia/28900)
  • AB
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    So louder music play victory. We have won and the enemy is running, running, running! The Americans are caved in, the Saudis have fallen, we alone are beautiful, all in white. It is interesting and who will believe it?
  • Operator April 9 2020 14: 07 New
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    A pandemic and a global crisis - no deals will help here, the Arabian sheikhs should not think about price wars, but about how to maintain power in the absence of subsidies to the population and the United States refuses to provide protection.
  • Maks1995 April 9 2020 14: 12 New
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    Great logic.
    The Saudis are buying shares of oil and gas companies on a cheap basis.
    we are not buying up.
    So the Saudis lost.
  • Alexey Sommer April 9 2020 15: 10 New
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    The title of the article has a mirror meaning.
  • Galleon April 9 2020 15: 17 New
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    Experts: Saudi Arabia lost to Russia in the oil war

    "Evening M", the group "Aquarium".
  • Avior April 9 2020 15: 32 New
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    Saudi Arabia initiating termination of transaction with OPEC

    But isn’t that Novak slamming the door?
    Strange article.
  • NF68 April 9 2020 16: 52 New
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    Yeah. The author somehow forgot that the Saudis are also fighting US shale oil. It was after its appearance that this very war began.
  • Normal ok April 9 2020 17: 32 New
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    Mm-yes, how stupid it is necessary to consider readers in order to feed them similar zrado-peremozhnye articles. Yes, on all the business resources of the world (including the Russian RBC), it is laid out on the shelves that Novak lost his mind and specifically set up the country.
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      Novak did what he was told to do and the decision came from above - nobody unilaterally decides on such an initiative on his own initiative, and you listen to that infoeconomic trash smaller RBC.
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        RBC, it may be a garbage dump, but you remember with WHAT pomp we recorded media published about the next TRANSPORT on the oil front!
    2. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 01: 29 New
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      Quote: Normal ok
      Yes, in all the business resources of the world (including the Russian RBC), it’s laid out on shelves,

      “How stupid are readers to consider in order to feed them similar zrado-peremozhno articles” wassat lol
  • live from manyamirka but funny
  • Skarpzd April 10 2020 01: 39 New
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    "will raise gas prices"
    While the virus is raging and sitting at home they won’t raise it. Then they will win back with interest!

    from what? already growing. from Monday 92 + 30 kopecks per liter. Kemerovo region
    1. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 01: 31 New
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      Quote: Skarpzd
      Kemerovo region

      we don’t have such an area ... also with a small letter !!! wassat
  • ugrums1961 April 10 2020 06: 05 New
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    Maybe all this fuss with oil prices was started by the Saudis so that Russia wouldn’t arrange these quotas, it made a demarche, the oil prices collapsed, and now there’s a rose on the cake - they’re buying up cheaper shares of European oil companies, and Russia is sniffing and crumpling its pillow, which left there, Alya oll.
  • nikvic46 April 10 2020 09: 20 New
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    Saudi Arabia lost primarily to itself. Yes, and other exporters did not win. I'm afraid that saturated importers will set oil prices.
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    And how will the reduction mechanism be implemented? Who will control and count? It seems to me that this is almost a Filkina letter. All this “reduction” is necessary in order to raise the price of oil on the exchange. And each one had their own customers as they will. After all, everyone knows that real oil is sold 10 times less than on paper. But speculators are very affecting the price.
  • Victor Demchenko April 10 2020 11: 08 New
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    I’ve been silent for a long time on the forum, forgive me, I just didn’t want to argue with very stubborn comrades who, in response to questions, are uncomfortable either banyat or carry such a blizzard that their ears fade. Well, now the essence of the article:
    1. To the author: So who disrupted negotiations to reduce oil production? as far as I remember, our Minister of Energy did this, which he fancifully reported to the "brightest."
    2. as a result of the actions of our notebook “friends” (to list?) We lost more than a billion every day, and these are not my words, search the internet for data, moreover, official ...
    Well, 3. why are our media silent on the results of yesterday's negotiations with OPEC countries? maybe nothing to say? or our delegation just face, sorry for an illegitimate expression with a run stuck in guano?
    1. Nikolai Grek April 11 2020 01: 36 New
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      Quote: Victor Demchenko
      I’ve been silent for a long time on the forum, forgive me, well, I just didn’t want to argue with very stubborn comrades who, in response to questions, are uncomfortable either banyat or carry such a blizzard that their ears fade.

      here why so pathetic ??? !!! judging by your writings, you easily fit into the main choir of local wrestlers and politics in !!! wink laughing
      Quote: Victor Demchenko
      Well, 3. why are our media silent on the results of yesterday’s talks with OPEC countries?

      how interesting it is to read comments in a day !!! lol
  • antique April 10 2020 13: 21 New
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    The transaction approved at the end of the OPEC + meeting requires Russia to assume maximum obligations. The country will have to reduce oil production more than anyone else in the world, by 1,8 million barrels per day compared to March. The final document is published on the OPEC website.
    Reported by Yandex news. What is the victory?
    5th of March. Russia is withdrawing from a transaction with OPEC, as it does not want to reduce oil production by more than 0,3 million barrels per day.
    April 8th. Russia is ready to reduce production by 1,8 million barrels per day.
    This is what any geopolitical victory of Putin looks like.
    1. Heet April 10 2020 21: 22 New
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      Quote: Antique
      The country will have to reduce oil production more than anyone else in the world, by 1,8 million barrels per day compared to March.

      It is strange to refer to the guardianship site and eventually freeze, what is not written on the guardianship site. Most of all in production, compared to the end of March, Saudi Arabia lost (from 12 million to 8,5 million)
      1. antique April 10 2020 21: 36 New
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        Quote: Heet
        It is strange to refer to the guardianship site and eventually freeze, what is not written on the guardianship site. Most of all in production, compared to the end of March, Saudi Arabia lost (from 12 million to 8,5 million)

        It is strange to write so categorically without carefully reading the OPEC website. Everything is there. I have a link. Read and watch more carefully. You can find it.
        1. Heet April 10 2020 21: 39 New
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          This link is here https://www.opec.org/opec_web/en/press_room/5882.htm
          What are you familiar with, can you say?
  • kutuz April 10 2020 13: 59 New
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    "Saudi Arabia lost to Russia" - Bullshit !!!! It is impossible to find another word.
  • NordUral April 10 2020 18: 15 New
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    I don’t know how the Saudis are, but we, ordinary citizens of Russia, have flown by for sure.
  • KURT330 April 10 2020 18: 23 New
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    [/ quote] Experts: Saudi Arabia lost to Russia in the oil war [quote]

    This I understand! Laughing out loud laughing
  • Sergey Sfiedu April 10 2020 22: 50 New
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    Good article ;). In fact, "zrada", but portrayed by a powerful "overpower".
  • Alexy April 10 2020 23: 10 New
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    I think the opposite is true. The OPEC + deal was actually broken by Russia, not agreeing to continue to reduce production. And the new agreement implies even greater reductions than what was proposed in March. So most likely we are just the loser, given the price of oil. Here are just the mistakes you need to be able to recognize and not consider yourself smarter than others.
    1. Heet April 10 2020 23: 21 New
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      Quote: Alexy
      I think the opposite is true. The OPEC + deal was actually broken by Russia, not agreeing to continue to reduce production. And the new agreement implies even greater reductions than what was proposed in March.

      In March, there were no such circumstances with coronavirus as it is now, therefore, a decrease in production in a larger volume.
      Quote: Alexy
      So most likely we are just the loser, given the price of oil. Here are just the mistakes you need to be able to recognize and not consider yourself smarter than others.

      All participating countries and Saudi Arabia are lowering the most (from 12,3 to 8,5 million bp), the United States has also committed to reduce production by 250 thousand bp in Mexico, plus this to reduce its production 2,5 mln. b, due to full storage facilities, for several months (according to preliminary information).
      Not everything is as clear as you think.
  • Super April 10 2020 23: 20 New
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    The GDP again outplayed the Saudis. And the liberals are angry. So it does everything right!
  • Badger April 11 2020 10: 15 New
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    The main conditions reflected in the new OPEC + preliminary transaction are as follows. Saudi Arabia and Russia are cutting oil production by 2,5 million barrels per day each. The agreement provides that their daily production of black gold will amount to 8,5 million barrels. Moscow and Riyadh made the biggest concessions. Together, OPEC + countries will reduce production by 10 million barrels per day during May-June. Then, from July to December inclusive, the total reduction will fall to 8 million barrels per day, and from January 2021 until the end of April 2022, to 6 million.
    Compromise 22 countries involved in the negotiation process, were far from immediately. After nine hours of negotiations, their participants seemed to have shook hands and agreed on the volume of production cuts, but stumbled upon the resistance of Mexico, which demanded that the restrictions imposed on it be reduced from 400 thousand to 100 thousand barrels per day. The deal was on the verge of collapse. However, Washington came to the aid of a neighbor on the continent.

    The United States agreed to cut back its production by another 250 thousand barrels, taking on most of the Mexican cuts. Experts do not exclude that the wide US pole is precisely the result of telephone conversations between the two presidents and the Saudi king.
    This is for whiners and all-rounders.
  • Whatman April 12 2020 21: 41 New
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    Everyone outplayed?
  • Skarpzd April 13 2020 08: 35 New
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    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    Quote: Skarpzd
    Kemerovo region

    we don’t have such an area ... also with a small letter !!! wassat

    I apologize. Of course, the Kemerovo region. only gasoline will not become cheaper from this.