The dates of deliveries of the A-100 Premier AWACS aircraft to the Russian Air Force

Information was published on the upcoming delivery to the Russian Aerospace Forces of a promising AWACS aircraft (long-range radar detection). We are talking about the aircraft A-100 "Premier", which is attributed to a new generation of funds aviation in its class.

As with reference to own sources сообщает RIA News, tests of the A-100 Premier AWACS aircraft continue on schedule. Moreover, the delivery to the Russian Aerospace Forces of this means of aviation is scheduled for 2024.

A-100 "Premier" is an aircraft that was created on the basis of a transport aircraft in the version of IL-76MD-90A. Moreover, the aircraft is capable not only of radar monitoring, but also of guidance. To do this, it is equipped with the latest radio equipment. Using the latest radio-technical content, an aircraft can track previously discovered targets by transmitting data about them, for example, to aircraft of a fighter wing involved in an operation.

The length of the aircraft is 46,6 m, height - 14,76 m, cruising speed - about 800 km / h. The crew, according to some reports, 6 people.

About any specific parameters for detecting targets and pointing at them so far, for obvious reasons, not reported.

Today, without this kind of aircraft with modern electronic “stuffing”, it is more difficult to carry out combat missions against a well-equipped enemy. In the arsenal, NATO has its own version of the AWACS aircraft. This is an E-3 Sentry in various versions.

The parameters of its on-board equipment are such that one side is capable of monitoring the territory of an area of ​​about 300 thousand square kilometers. He is also able to detect aviation at a distance of 500-650 km, depending on the height of its flight.

Comments

[Teberii]

The main thing is that everything is going according to plan, and there it will be seen that such a technique is necessary.

[dirk182]

The main thing is that everything is going according to plan

Last 7 years "everything is going according to plan". If not more. I don't even want to remember about the previous plans.

[Teberii]

So from the beginning you need to plan a plan.

[NEXUS]

Quote: dirk182

Last 7 years "everything is going according to plan". If not more. I don't even want to remember about the previous plans.

I'm more tired of the order (even news about the coronovirus from each iron), reports of a shift to the right. That's where the eye is already twitching.

[Amateur]

Moreover, the delivery to the Russian Aerospace Forces of this means of aviation is scheduled for 2024.

The re-equipment of the aircraft began in 2014. Until they start producing, the "filling" will both morally and physically become obsolete. 10 years in electronics - a change of generations.

[Paul Siebert]

The right thing!
And darling ...
But Stalin would say: "Our country needs these planes like air!"
Especially after the loss of our AWACS aircraft in Syria ...
We need both airplanes and specialists.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Paul Siebert

Especially after the loss of our AWACS aircraft in Syria ...

What are you Paul Siebert ?? “You're just Goebbels, a fakeometrist!”

[bayard]

Paul, IL-20, is a radio engineering, not radar reconnaissance aircraft.
AWACS - early warning radar detection.
And shot down the IL-20RT (electronic intelligence).
Furstein?

[venik]

Quote: Paul Siebert

Especially after the loss of our AWACS aircraft in Syria ...

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In fact, the IL-20 lost in Syria is a reconnaissance aircraft, and not an AWACS aircraft - the tasks are different!

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Paul Siebert

Especially after the loss of our AWACS aircraft in Syria

Quote: Paul Siebert

IL-20 shot down in Syria in 2018

IL-20 - RTR aircraft, electronic reconnaissance aircraft. This is not AWACS (AWACS)

[aszzz888]

The case is very necessary, but very long. Dear spoon for dinner //.

[ism_ek]

Superjet has a bunch of imported parts. We do not have mass-produced turboprop aircraft. IL-96 and Tu-214 have the same ps-90 engines. Apparently the plane with the ramp was more convenient for placing the antenna and equipment.

[Zaurbek]

It’s nothing to do with it ... Jews make a triangle of 3 Afar there and it doesn’t rotate, maybe 2 pieces of AFAR and it rotates ....

[cost]

Jews make a triangle of 3 Afar there and it does not rotate, maybe 2pcs AFAR and it rotates ....

promising radar E2G / -2097 MMR –MS-MMR "MAGEN" - a rotating three-dimensional radar with two triangular active phased antenna arrays (AFAR). Developed by Israel Aviation Industry (IAI)
The letters MS in the name of the new variant mean Multi-Sensor, i.e. The new system combines a number of sensors (both active and passive), most of which, like EL / M-2084, are manufactured by ELTA, a subsidiary of IAI. The basis of the system is the EL / M-2084 itself (S-frequency radar), another high-frequency radar, IFF (Identification friend or foe), ADS-B (Automatic Dependent Surveillance) sensors are combined with it - Broadcasting), as well as electronic intelligence system (SIGINT), TV and IR cameras (EO / IR) and missile launch recognition sensor (LDS - Launch Detector Sensor).
This combination helps to create the most complete picture of the air situation (ASP - Air Situational Picture) in order to detect low ESR aircraft, such as stealth aircraft, small UAVs, multicopter, barrage, cruise missiles, heavy artillery missiles, dropped air weapons, ATGMs long range. MS-MMR provides improved classification and identification of targets, recognizes very close targets, including against the background of natural and artificially created interference.
\ MS-MMR significantly increases the reliability of the created picture of the air situation and can effectively handle new types of small, low, slow and freezing threats with low ESR, as well as guided and unguided missiles at various ranges. Since all sensors are integrated within the same system, MS-MMR provides one output of all data to the control and monitoring system (C2 - Command and Control), which greatly simplifies and accelerates the understanding of the situation.
MS-MMR is built on a modular basis. Depending on the wishes of the customer, the MS-MMR can be purchased in full, or with a part of additional sensors, or the usual version of MMR will be purchased. A completely passive mode of operation is also possible - radar and IFF are disabled, only passive parts of the system work.
Application: TTX E2G / -2097 MMR -MS-MMR "MAGEN"
E2G / -2097 MMR –MS-MMR "MAGEN" is a family of S-band radars (S-band, ie, wavelength within 7.5-15 cm, frequency from 2 to 4 MHz) with an active phased antenna array (AFAR ). It is used for AD - Air Defense and Artillery Weapon Location Radar (WLR) missions. Can be supplied to customers in various sizes of configurations. Air transportable (on aircraft of the C-130 class and above).
Range, AD - 474 km (256 nautical miles);
Range, WLR - 170 km;
Azimuth review, AD - 120 degrees (without rotation), 360 degrees (with rotation);
Azimuth review, WLR - 120 degrees;
Elevation angle overview - up to 50 degrees (WLR and AD), up to a height of 30.48 km (100,000 feet, AD);
Accuracy, AD mode - high, in all three coordinates (3D);
Accuracy, WLR mode - 0.3% CVO (i.e., at a maximum range of 100 km, the error will be 300 meters);
The number of simultaneously followed targets, AD - 1,100;
The number of simultaneously monitored goals, WLR - 200 per minute.

Radar capabilities: E2G / -2097 MMR –MS-MMR "MAGEN"

In the WLR mode, artillery shells, mines, guided and unguided missiles are detected; the position of enemy artillery or launcher positions is calculated; the artillery fire can be adjusted;

In AD mode, all types of air targets are detected and recognized; information is quickly updated to track speedy and maneuverable targets; in essence, a real-time picture of the air situation is created; possible control of air defense systems and missile defense systems;

It can be used for air traffic control according to the standards of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO);

The radar has a remote control;

High noise immunity;

Advanced signal processing techniques;

High reliability and slow wear.

[jonht]

As such, there is no problem with AFAR; the S-400 has one of the posts with AFAR. Yes, and the A-100 should also have three AFAR antennas. There seems to be a problem with other electronics and communication systems (there were a lot of imported ones).

[venik]

Quote from rudolf

I am silent about AFAR, we have real problems with the creation of such radars.

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Excuse me, what do you think the antenna is on the A-100? Ordinary incoherent radar? There is exactly AFAR !!! Yes Yes! Exactly!
PS Before spitting, it is better to study the "materiel" first!

[Voyager]

Quote: venik

PS Before spitting, it is better to study the "materiel" first!

It’s their hobby to spit. Effectively and without studying materiel.

[venik]

Quote from rudolf

Have you studied the materiel? Where, if not a secret? On Wikipedia? Yes, there is an AFAR.

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To me, too, the secret of "polishenel"! Yes about this (AFAR) who just did not write (even the Americans already know this)! Here, be curious:
1. https://topwar.ru/163677-rossijskij-letajuschij-radar-a-100-brosaet-vyzov-amerikanskomu-e-3.html;
2. https://lenta.ru/news/2019/09/06/a100/;
3. https://lv.baltnews.com/Russia_West/20190904/1023343992/samyy-smertonosnyy-rossiyskiy-samolet-na-chto-sposoben-letayushchiy-radar-a-100-premer.html;
4. https://rg.ru/2018/09/12/novyj-letaiushchij-radar-a-100-stanet-sereznoj-problemoj-dlia-nato.html
So, today you are in the role of the General!

[Grigory_45]

Quote: venik

Excuse me, what do you think the antenna is on the A-100? Ordinary incoherent radar? There is exactly AFAR !!!

Exactly AFAR? Or all the same PFAR?

[venik]

Quote: Gregory_45

Exactly AFAR? Or all the same PFAR?

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Namely AFAR, not PFAR! (links are given above)

[Grigory_45]

Quote: venik

It is AFAR

Unfortunately, there is no officially confirmed information to this. At the office. The website of the NGO Vega also has no information.

Although, the radars with AFAR were also placed on export (Indian) A-50EI (Israeli radar EL / M-2075 Phalcon)

[Gregazov]

The first in our country AWACS - there was no distant radar detection and control. We had AK RLDN - an aviation complex for early radar detection and guidance. The creation and testing of such a complex is a very difficult technical task. The tests of the A-50 went on for more than 10 years and ended with its adoption for trial operation in the army. Only after several years of trial operation, it was adopted. The difference between AK RDN and AWACS can be seen from the name. In AWACS, the guidance task is accomplished by issuing target designation to a fighter. Actually, the guidance problem is solved in the fighter's digital computer. In AK RLDN, the guidance task for each type of fighter is solved on board the complex. The crew consisted of 3 guidance navigators and + calculation commander - navigator. Thus, there was the possibility of pointing at an intercept and withdrawal to a ground target of an aircraft without a computer.
The second change of the airframe generates a large number of tasks already solved on previous machines. In the manufacture of the first A-50s in Tashkent, military representatives refused to accept its stuffing - the electronic complex itself. Therefore, all the planes passed through me. Each side had its own specificity for false marks. And this is with the same form of a glider.
Of course, there are questions to the IL-76 regarding shading of the tail of a wide viewing sector in the rear hemisphere. However, they learned to deal with this phenomenon and did not begin to change the carrier.

[venik]

Quote: ism_ek

Apparently the plane with the ramp was more convenient for placing the antenna and equipment.

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And where does the ramp? Are you sure she IS THERE ??? I personally - no! She's just NOT NEEDED there! It’s just that the IL-76 is a very widespread aircraft in the Armed Forces, which in all respects satisfies the requirements for an AWACS aircraft!

[Zaurbek]

There simply isn’t another serial aircraft with the right GP ..... The same IL-96 could perfectly carry all the equipment.

[venik]

Quote: Zaurbek

The same IL-96 could perfectly carry all the equipment.

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The requirement of the military was the use of an aircraft, mass-produced and operated in the army!

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Zaurbek

The same IL-96 could perfectly carry all the equipment

could, but ... The IL-96 was literally "eaten" by American firms and local officials who were not interested in the development of the domestic aviation industry. In 2009, Minister of Industry and Trade Viktor Khristenko decided to discontinue production of the Il-96-300 passenger aircraft, "since the airliner is not able to compete with the latest long-haul passenger aircraft of Boeing and Airbus"
As a result, the Voronezh Aviation Plant produced only 29 such aircraft. Most of them are operated by the "presidential" squadron.
In 2015, they announced the resumption of production, but leapfrog with motors began. In general, things are still there (although in 2017 it was announced that a contract was signed between the S.V. Ilyushin Aviation Complex and the UAC for conducting an OKR to create the modernized IL-96-400M with the first flight in 2019.

When creating the A-100 as a carrier (for lack of others), only two options were considered: "Ruslan" An-124 and Il-76

[Piramidon]

Quote from rudolf

When I first heard about this the A-100, I expected to see a DRLOiU aircraft based on some wide or mid-body passenger with AFAR flat antennas. Well, with AFAR it’s clear that we don’t have friendship with her, but why exactly IL-76?

We didn’t try to ask ourselves the questions: which aircraft of this class is produced in the same way as the Il-76? Are there many "wide or medium body passengers" produced in Russia?

[Zaurbek]

No carriers yet. They wrote that they would do an average AWACS based on Tu204 / 214.

[Aviator_]

The MC-21 has a composite wing. And there are still problems with him. The problems are solved, of course, but in fact from the production vehicles only IL-76 is.

[Zaurbek]

He, too, is not yet serial ..... as they launch into the series, I think they will make an anti-sanction glider and begin to sculpt special flanges. This is the only way out. Building a separate plane is wrong. B-737 as an example .... and civilian ramparts and Poseidon and AWAC machines (and from different manufacturers)

[venik]

Quote: Aviator_

The MS-21 has a composite wing, and there are still problems with it.

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Sergei! The problem is different! Composites as power structural elements for military aircraft - simply NOT ACCEPTABLE! They are more fragile compared to light alloys! For example: a large fragment or a small-caliber projectile, when hit in a wing box made of light alloys, will simply punch a hole in it, but a composite box will simply DESTROY under load!
Composites can be used to produce hatches, chassis and bomb doors, cargo compartment doors, trim elements (i.e., that does not work under load), but only NOT POWER STRUCTURES of the structure!
Those. MS-21 for the military - NOT SUITABLE - it is only for civilian purposes!

[Zaurbek]

I do not agree ..... this is not a military aircraft. The range of the AFAR allows it to be outside the zone of shelling. And the survivability of the B737 with the iron wing and composite is the same. They wrote about composites that they are less repairable .. you need to change the whole part.

[Aviator_]

We need modern AWACS yesterday, counting on the MS-21, which is not even worth it for civilian purposes. There has already been an attempt to create a composite combat aircraft - this is the Su-47 with a forward sweep ("Berkut"). Since the KB saved money and did everything without TsAGI, the result was predictable - terrible buffing in a number of modes.

[Gregazov]

AK RLDN requires a metal wing to shield reflected signals from the ground. Look at photo A-50. Under the "mushroom" he has small "wings" for this purpose added, which are not on the serial Il 76.

[bayard]

IL-76 can land on a dirt airfield, in military conditions for maneuver, refueling, emergency landing with subsequent take-off. This is a very winning option in front of the same E-3A based on the Boeing 707.
But there were reports that there was a desire to make an AWACS aircraft based on the Tu-214 - up to 50 pieces and just with a two-sided flat AFAR on the back.
But with the A-100 really some kind of crap is going on. And not only with him, but also with the modernization of the combatant A-50 - as of 2015, 4 units were modernized. , so nothing else is heard. And after all, their (combatant) under 25 pieces. and modernizing them is much easier and faster than building new ones, but ... apparently "circumstances of an irresistible nature" do not allow. Or someone's ill will.

[neri73-r]

Quote: bayard

IL-76 can land on a dirt airfield, in military conditions for maneuver, refueling, emergency landing with subsequent take-off. This is a very winning option in front of the same E-3A based on the Boeing 707.

This is not just a winning option, but a mandatory option for a military aircraft. And one of the reasons, I think, that they did not do at the bases of Tu and other civilian aircraft. In the USSR, all civilian aircraft that could be launched could land and take off from unpaved airfields, as they were a strategic reserve of the USSR Air Force Air Force.

[Zaurbek]

This is the gain ... in the range of the loss

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Zaurbek

in the range of a loser

and aviation is all interconnected. So again the need to develop a fleet of air tankers comes out

[bayard]

Quote: Zaurbek

This is the gain ... in the range of the loss

Looking with whom to equal. If with the A-50, then the range will be noticeably greater - thanks to more efficient engines and a lower weight of the equipment (you can increase the fuel supply, which is most likely to be realized.
If with E-3A, then you also need to look at the engines (the planes are quite old) ... well, and refueling in the air.

[venik]

Quote from rudolf

When I first heard about this the A-100, I expected to see a DRLOiU aircraft based on some wide or mid-body passenger with AFAR flat antennas. Well, with AFAR it’s clear that we don’t have friendship with her

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Yah! Just the same "friendship does not work"? And then what are the flat panels (on the sides) behind the cockpit on the Tu-214R?

This is exactly AFAR!
The problem is that the signature of such a system resembles a "eight laid on its side" (that is, it looks well on the sides, and "dead zones" are formed in the front and rear hemispheres! Well, the front hemisphere can be "covered" with a nasal radar (then the signature will resemble a "shamrock"), and the back - alas! And the signature of the rotating "saucer" is the right circle!
That is why flat panels AFAR are better suited for reconnaissance aircraft, and "plates" - for AWACS!
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Quote from rudolf

but why the IL-76?

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And what about the Il-76 "did not please" you ?? Places - a lot, range - hoo! Again, it is serially produced, the design is well developed, reliable and "licked"! What more do you want?

[venik]

Quote from rudolf

I did not say that we cannot do AFAR. It’s difficult for us to go to combat vehicles.

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There the problem is not so much in "complexity" as in "price"!!! AFAR, for example much more expensive the same PFAR. That is why there are not so many of them in the Air Force and in the air defense and in the Navy! And not because we do not know how to do them!
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Quote from rudolf

And by the way, if for good, instead of two Tu-214R and A-100 there should be one machine that combines all their potential.

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And it didn’t occur to you that these are machines for completely different purposes? After all, the Tu-214R is first and foremost a SCOUT (RTR aircraft), and A is a 100 AWACS aircraft! Do you feel the difference?

[Zaurbek]

The distant analogue of Tu214RC - E-3 Sentry ....

[Zaurbek]

The range there is not special .... the IL-96 is much larger.

[Piramidon]

Quote from rudolf

I don’t understand why 96th is so ignored.

How many and where are they released? It needs to be tested and run in a series. And the 76th is ready.

[Piramidon]

Quote from rudolf

IL-96 in Voronezh did and is doing at VASO.

That's exactly what they DID when. How much do they do now?

[Zaurbek]

1 piece IL96-400 .... and do not know where to stick .... nothing is heard about the production. Although the PS90 and avionics for the IL476 are mass-produced and will be produced ..... the same units can be set at 96-400. And besides AWACS, you can make a strat. Scout. We do not have this class at all.

[bayard]

Why all these difficulties? Do we have many military airfields capable of receiving IL-96?
And the IL-76 will sit on any of the available ones, even on a dirt one.
AND PRICE! Compare the prices of IL-76 and IL-96.
+ cost of maintenance, life cycle.
If you really want to get a military special-purpose aircraft on the basis of a civilian, here you have the Tu-214 - on its base, both the RTR aircraft, and the anti-submarine, and the repeater, and AWACS are planning. About two engines, sufficient capacity and range (especially if refueling in the air is organized.
Serial.
The same type of base for a whole line of special boards.

[Zaurbek]

Compare the prices of IL96-400 and IL-476 ... identical avionics and turbojet engines .... reinforced fuselage and chassis on the IL476. And the airfields are ramshackle now.

[bayard]

Well, Zaur persuaded, build!
I’m only afraid that the General Staff will not agree with you. Too big for such a task.
If you look at his American counterpart, we see that it was created on the basis of a Boeing 707 (our analogue is IL-62). And this is on the element base of the 70s - 80s. Now the hardware is noticeably lighter and more compact, in the modernized A-50, about 2 times, the vacated space and mass were used to increase the fuel supply. Therefore, they want to order about 50 Tu-214 as DRLOs, although it is not yet known exactly whether there are a mushroom or a crest (flat, double-sided AFAR), there are different rumors ... But you immediately waved IL-96-400, it’s also useful load of 80 tons, what are you going to shove there? And the airfield for such an aircraft is needed not anyhow. And the Tu-214 has the same engines as the Il-96-400, but only TWO, so it will eat up 2 times less fuel per departure, it’s easier to refuel ...
By the way, their engines are not quite the same, different modifications, in draft - very different - 14,5 tons for the IL-76MD90A, versus 17,5 tons for the IL-96-400.
In addition, IL-96 will be able to produce only 2 pcs. per year in SERIAL production - these are the capacities of the Voronezh NEA, and will primarily go for the rearmament of the presidential air squad and in the Moscow Region as special airborne (command posts).

[Grigory_45]

Quote: venik

And the signature of the rotating "saucer" is the correct circle!

therefore, it makes sense to put APAR in a "plate", combining the advantages of electronic and mechanical scanning methods.

[bayard]

On the A-100, it is precisely this type of antenna that they realize.

[Grigory_45]

Quote from rudolf

but why the IL-76?

Why not? Reliable, unpretentious 76th aircraft goes to the BTA, tankers of the IL-78 type are being built on its base.
In addition, this is not the old man IL-76, the base for the Premier is IL-76MD-90A (IL-476), with new engines, a wing and avionics

[Doccor18]

It is high time. The Air Force really needs this plane. The A-50 flew for the first time back in 1978. It is time, it was time for him to replace.

[Cympak]

Wangju that the coronavirus pandemic, the fall in oil prices and the subsequent global economic crisis will beat the entire rearmament program, as in the 90s.

[Vladimir_2U]

This is a good "Premier", not like the previous one! )))

[Aag]

Long overdue!

[knn54]

I wonder if the A-100 is effective against fifth-generation aircraft? * And it seems that the delay is due to AFAR.

[Zaurbek]

They wrote that 100 is already AFAR.

[Zaurbek]

Even if it is PFAR ..... this is already good.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: knn54

And it seems that the delay is due to AFAR

RPKs have been tested in a flying laboratory based on a full-time A-50 since 2017. It seems that the delay is just in the carrier IL-76MD-90A, comes with a creak

[yfast]

Could this fit in a drone? And radar (s) without moving parts.

[rocket757]

Saying that we do not have enough of such a technique makes no sense. I hope that the responsible people understand this and will carry out the appropriate ACTION.
We will see.

[Igor Borisov_2]

Quote: Paul Siebert

Quote: Tiksi-3

Quote: Paul Siebert

Especially after the loss of our AWACS aircraft in Syria ...

What are you Paul Siebert ?? “You're just Goebbels, a fakeometrist!”

What kind of tantrum, my dear?
IL-20 shot down in Syria in 2018.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%84%D0%B0_%D0%98%D0%BB-20_%D0%B2_%D0%A1%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B8

The IL-20 is not at all an AWACS aircraft. This is a plane RER and RTR .....

[fa2998]

Quote: Teberii

The main thing is that everything is going according to plan, and there it will be seen that such a technique is necessary.

Work has been going on since 2014 - 2024 - the first plane - Napoleon's plans. Until they moved "to the right." But we can come up with new names, to confuse the enemy. Sentry "!

[Grigory_45]

Quote: fa2998

Work is underway since 2014

The development of a new aircraft AWACS (A-100) is carried out by TANTK them. G.M.Beriev together with NPO Vega-M in accordance with the Decree of the President of Russia dated April 28, 2004.
In June 2006, a contract was signed for the creation of AWACS aircraft No. 63017 according to the tactical and technical assignment dated 06.05.2006 using the A-100 aircraft AWACS IU A-50 as an aircraft carrier of the A-2013 complex. In 476, a new TTZ was adopted for the ROC "Premier-4" carried out under the State Contract No. N / 2 / 13-09.12.2013-DOGOZ dated 2013 with a completion date in November XNUMX.

[Grigory_45]

About any specific parameters for detecting targets and pointing at them so far, for obvious reasons, not reported

well, something is known.
The main antenna complex with a rotating antenna with a dual-band radar with a phased array with electronic scanning vertically and mechanical horizontally, as well as with digital signal processing. The detection range of aircraft - up to 600 km, ships - up to 400 km. The aircraft is equipped with a digital navigation system and an aircraft control system with a "glass" cockpit.
Also. the plane receives information not only from its RPK, but also from space satellites and UAVs

[ZVS]

Something tells me that when the A-100s begin to be delivered to the troops, it will become obsolete morally and technologically.

[kogerent]

There it is AFAR, I give a tooth) Only with this airplane there are so many hemorrhoids now that the year 2024 of supply looks very VERY promising!