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Coronavirus. Political implications

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We do not need to observe diplomatic political correctness: all humanitarian actions always pursue, of course, political goals, here you can agree with the "world" media. Including Russia's assistance to various countries in overcoming the consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.


Humanitarian policy


Russian medical assistance to Western countries is not only “beautiful gestures”, as President Trump called them, but also active intelligence of these countries for possible cooperation in the fight against the pandemic. The result was negative, but it was important to get any result, we needed certainty in this matter: now we can proceed from this result in future politics in relation to the “civilized world”.

It is unlikely that Vladimir Putin expected President Trump to accept the offer of humanitarian aid, but Trump unexpectedly accepted it, and Putin had nowhere and no reason to retreat.

The telephone conversation was initiated by Trump, and Putin most likely out of politeness offered help, expecting a refusal, because for Trump this “humanitarian” help can have very unpleasant consequences. Trump accepted it and has already been criticized in the "democratic" press for "humanitarian aid", and is justified by the fact that the main thing for him is the health of Americans. But this is unlikely to be limited to this.

Because now, with this humanitarian aid, Russia really intervenes heavily in the US election campaign, throwing firewood into the election battles of presidential candidates. It is not clear just what this will lead to, what results in the elections in November this year. A blow to the image of the United States in the world: they accepted humanitarian aid from Russia! This is a major political success for Moscow.

Italy’s humanitarian aid is a serious blow to NATO, it can lead to the collapse of NATO and the EU connected with it in the near future, if the US does not reverse the tendency to collapse. NATO’s Defender of Europe 2020 exercises are effectively disrupted. Only attempts are made to save face with individual military maneuvers.

The reformatting of Europe has already begun; Italian politicians on this subject are unflattering in the press. By providing humanitarian assistance to Serbia, Russia has seriously strengthened the authority of Belgrade and its own in the Balkans.

These humanitarian actions of Russia became possible due to the fact that Moscow managed to delay the peak of the pandemic, stretch it in time, and relatively free military-medical resources appeared, which turned out to be possible to use to actively probe our western "partners".

Pandemic and the USSR


In a pandemic, the United States repeats its old move, which at one time led to the destruction of the USSR: through its satellite, Saudi Arabia is trying to deprive Russia of oil revenues. CA ultimately demanded that Russia seriously reduce oil production under OPEC +, which would simply lead to a drop in revenue. Russia refused to do this, and Saudi Arabia brought down oil prices, sharply increasing production, although oil demand fell already because of a global pandemic.

But all the same, this blackmail with Russia does not work, Moscow has other sources of income, financial reserves and an ally in the form of China, which at that time purchases large quantities of Russian oil directly from the Baltic ports. And the Saudis are returning to the negotiating table, because they and the US shale have also suffered heavy losses. It is not possible to take Putin's Russia with oil dumping, in fact it is stronger than the USSR!

The strength of the new Russia is seen in the fact that it does not abandon the legacy of the USSR, Vladimir Putin is not in vain talking about the "tragedy of the collapse of the USSR": he uses the tragic experience of this collapse and the entire legacy of the USSR, from scientific and technical to epidemiological. Hence the slowdown of the pandemic in Russia, evident against the backdrop of America and Europe. Putin relies on virologists and the surviving epidemiological service: it is not by chance, not by itself! In Ukraine, it has not survived.

Coronavirus opens cards


The coronavirus pandemic is a test for the whole world, so let's see who is really worth it, without fools and without false images of the world media. On the example of Italy, Russia clearly demonstrated that NATO is a dummy, that the US "roof" is really worth nothing: it simply does not exist! The United States pursues only its interests everywhere.

Russia, of course, has as its goal the destruction of NATO, an organization that, after the collapse of the USSR, has the audacity to advance towards our borders, organize coups d'etat and conduct military exercises on our borders, although diplomat Sergey Lavrov will never say that. Russia is looking for partners who are also interested in this, see this as their salvation and future, from Serbia to Italy.
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    1. Stas157
      Stas157 April 10 2020 05: 25 New
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      . This is a major political success for Moscow.

      What? Sanctions lifted?
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 April 10 2020 05: 39 New
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        For the sake of such "success", you can leave people without masks (with ventilators) during a pandemic! What? The yellow spacesuit is available!

        And Trump is not proud:

        the main thing for him is the health of Americans
      2. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi April 10 2020 08: 52 New
        +9
        Quote: Stas157
        What? Sanctions lifted?

        And where does the sanction? It’s time to get used to it. For 20 years then. In the foreign policy arena, Russia may have success, or great success, or grandiose success. Other options are simply not provided. And even if Mr. Lavrov kicked in the ass, well, say from Buckingham, it will be a definite success. For it leads to a direct collapse of NATO, the collapse of the American dollar, or, in extreme cases, to an increase in Russia's influence over African countries.
    2. DMB 75
      DMB 75 April 10 2020 05: 35 New
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      Quote: Engineer Shchukin
      not an article, but a "propaganda feast during the plague"

      And do not say how young you were again.
      blackmail with Russia fails ... US shale workers also suffer heavy losses ... a serious blow to NATO
    3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 10 2020 06: 51 New
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      That's even nothing to add.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 April 10 2020 08: 22 New
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        Italy’s humanitarian aid is a serious blow to NATO, it can lead to the collapse of NATO and the EU connected with it in the near future

        I got to this phrase. Yes - "the most serious blow", just go nuts how "the most serious" lol Previously, the same was written about the "Olympics", then about the "Football World Cup", now about "aid" ... naturally, it (humanitarian aid) will destroy NATO and the EU, someone doubts it, right here, in " short term ", practically" tomorrow ", and will destroy ... yes wink
        PS: I didn't even read further, the article-propaganda-splint, it is not clear for whom it was designed ... well, it can raise the strongly shaken tone of the written "hurray-patriots" ...
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 10 2020 09: 18 New
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          I agree :))) I was also delighted with this moment so much that below I dedicated a separate comment to it.
          1. depressant
            depressant April 10 2020 11: 46 New
            +5
            Yeah. They will squabble among themselves for masks and ventilators, and when everything is settled with the virus, they will again gather in the EU, hug NATO, elect Trump - the old or the new, and bark at Russia with a vengeance, unanimously approving new sanctions for interfering with their internal affairs. This is our "brilliant" foreign policy. Together with no less "brilliant" inner. Where is the head of the Kremlin? Which tower? Or crazy at all? I see only humiliating obsessive vanity and currying favor with the West while actually ignoring the needs of my people.
        2. Gene84
          Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 39 New
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          Quote: Snail N9
          didn’t even read

          I read the article to the end ...
          Quote: Snail N9
          it is unclear for whom designed

          For those who can not see what is happening in our country.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS April 10 2020 12: 07 New
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      Quote: Engineer Schukin
      not an article, but a "propaganda feast during the plague"
      the sad thing is that for such meaningless scribbling they also receive money, and not rods

      The article is really too optimistic, but ... there is a fact in it that is really worth attention, namely the adoption of assistance from the Russian Federation by Trump. That is, they did not accept help from an ally or partner, from a military and political opponent. This fact is not very significant right now, but in the future this card will not be a weak trump card in a conversation with the West.
      1. Gene84
        Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 42 New
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        Quote: NEXUS
        accepting assistance from the Russian Federation trump

        The United States is accepting help from all now. Including from China ...
    5. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 40 New
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      Quote: Engineer Shchukin
      plague propaganda feast

      Creation of a new artificial "personality cult" yes
  2. Bastinda
    Bastinda April 10 2020 05: 25 New
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    It is not possible to take Putin's Russia with oil dumping, in fact it is stronger than the USSR!

    And I’m even more, I love Mr. PJ! https://youtu.be/ihOiMFBaVKo
    1. DMB 75
      DMB 75 April 10 2020 05: 40 New
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      We need more positive in social networks!
      this is a serious blow to NATO, it can lead to the collapse of NATO and the EU connected with it in the near future

      Straight day I asked in the morning! Thanks to the author for a good mood!
      1. bandabas
        bandabas April 10 2020 10: 13 New
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        RENTV with Prokopenko remains to be seen for dessert.
        1. Gene84
          Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 39 New
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          Quote: bandabas
          RENTV with Prokopenko remains to be seen for dessert.

          Let’s get along without dessert? wink laughing
          1. bandabas
            bandabas April 11 2020 06: 39 New
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            There are enough desserts on other channels laughing .
  3. Olgovich
    Olgovich April 10 2020 05: 35 New
    +1
    With this humanitarian aid, Russia really intervenes heavily in the US election campaign, throwing firewood into the election battles of presidential candidates. It is not clear just what this will lead to, what results in the elections in November of this year.

    The result in the elections, I think, will be determined by the number of victims of the pandemic
    Italy’s humanitarian aid is a serious blow to NATO, it can lead to the collapse of NATO

    Talk about it seriously. sure not.

    Nevertheless, Russia saved the lives of many Italians — and it looks much more noble against the background of Italy’s thieving Euro-neighbors — it showed the real one. rather than declared human solidarity.

    Russia remained true to itself!
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir April 10 2020 06: 32 New
      +4
      Funny you hate the Bolsheviks and all that they did evil.
      And here, obviously, help is not to the people of Russia, but to partners, the preparation of a springboard for retreat.
      Well, by analogy, the current ones made a coronor in Russia.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich April 10 2020 07: 09 New
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        Quote: Gardamir
        Funny you hate bolsheviks

        Squeamishness has nothing to do with hate request
        Quote: Gardamir
        And here, obviously, help is not for the people of Russia, and to partners, preparationa foothold for retreat.

        I didn’t understand anything .... belay
        Quote: Gardamir
        Well, by analogy, the current ones made a coronor in Russia.

        well, very "smart" ....... negative
      2. ser56
        ser56 April 11 2020 20: 17 New
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        Quote: Gardamir
        Well, by analogy, the current ones made a coronor in Russia.

        but do not decrypt? Hospitals are closed and plundered in the Russian Federation, and doctors are exiled?
    2. Avior
      Avior April 10 2020 07: 01 New
      +7
      I think the result of the elections will also be affected by who will help the Italian economy after the pandemic
      Von der Leyen said in an interview with La Repubblica that the European Union will allocate 100 billion euros to the countries most affected by the pandemic to restore closed jobs and pay salaries. Moreover, the provision of this financial assistance will begin with Italy.

      No matter how cynical it sounds, those who survived will vote and, I'm afraid, will be guided by their problems, such as jobs.
      And help can simply be forgotten - what is the service that has already been provided? :(
    3. Greenwood
      Greenwood April 10 2020 07: 22 New
      +8
      Quote: Olgovich
      Russia saved the lives of many Italians, and looks much more noble against the background of Italy’s thieving euro neighbors
      Or maybe it would be worth scoring on the nobility and putting all the forces and means to save their citizens in order to minimize infection and mortality ?!
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich April 10 2020 09: 12 New
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        Quote: Greenwood
        Or maybe it would be worth scoring on the nobility and putting all the forces and means to save their citizens in order to minimize infection and mortality ?!

        In Italy, the situation was completely different. terrifying. stage.
        Gaining experience in fighting and knowing how to prevent this from happening is worth a lot.

        I think. that the Government’s epidemiological decisions made today in Russia are based on the experience of the military in Italy
        1. Romey
          Romey April 10 2020 12: 34 New
          +1
          It is one thing to send teams of microbiological doctors with only the necessary equipment for this. It is another matter to send parts of the Russian Chemical-Chemical Plant and materials that we urgently need ourselves.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich April 10 2020 13: 08 New
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            Quote: romey
            It is another matter to send parts of the Russian Chemical-Chemical Plant and materials that we urgently need ourselves.

            1.where RHBZ parts are already used in Russia, what do you miss? belay
            What, nowhere?

            2. WHERE in Russia, as in bergamo, is a complete disinfection of everything and everything already required?
            what, nowhere again?

            Therefore, let them not fly and learn to act in extreme situations, right? belay request
            1. Romey
              Romey April 10 2020 13: 20 New
              +1
              Learn what? To engage in combat training does not need to ride so far. Everything is standard. Another thing is public relations, or simply put it. Moreover, show-offs are designed only for the internal audience, because the external a priori are not conducted on them. They’re on the drum, but what reason should you talk about the wonderful leader and politics of his party. But now, the trouble is for you, the show-offs stop working already inside, which actually shows the reaction of commentators on the writings of Kamenev and his comrades ...
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich April 10 2020 13: 31 New
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                Quote: romey
                Learn what? To practice combat training need not ride so far.

                What are you saying? And ALL normal troops try to run in (after studying, of course) - precisely in a combat situation.

                For it is an invaluable experience.


                Quote: romey
                Another thing is public relations, or simply put it. Moreover, show-offs are designed only for the internal audience, because the external a priori are not conducted on them. They’re on the drum, but what reason should you talk about the wonderful leader and politics of his party.

                Except you, none SO-not excited request
                Quote: romey
                But now, the trouble is for you, the show-offs stop working already inside, which actually shows the reaction of commentators on the writings of Kamenev and his comrades ...

                Yes, yours is already eight years old all menacingly .... a mustache move-scare. lol

                PS It is significant that on simple questions:

                1.Where are parts of RCHBZ already used in Russia, what are you missing? belay
                What, nowhere?

                2. WHERE in Russia, as in bergamo, is a complete disinfection of everything and everything already required?
                what, nowhere again?

                you are not able to answer ....
                1. Romey
                  Romey April 10 2020 14: 19 New
                  -1
                  Why not able. Very much. Only this answer you will not like. The hysteria surrounding this coronovirus crap is exaggerated and its danger is exaggerated. RKhBZ troops are unnecessary to use at home either. This follows from juggling statistics. In fact, everything is simple: you can shift the responsibility for sliding into a new Great Depression onto the coronovirus. Like, we are unpretentious here and just passed by, and do not ask too many questions, which made the leadership of politics and economy the last 30 years. This applies not only to us, the west, too. Only the west will dry out a little, and the Russian Federation can easily share the fate of the USSR, only in a more trashy form ..
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich April 10 2020 14: 28 New
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                    Quote: romey
                    The hysteria surrounding this coronovirus crap is exaggerated and its danger is exaggerated.

                    You say it in Bergamo.
                    Or in Milan.
                    we will see. what will be done to you.
                    Quote: romey
                    RKhBZ troops are unnecessary to use at home either. This follows from juggling statistics.

                    what?
                    what .... juggling? belay lol
                    Quote: romey
                    In fact, everything is simple: you can shift the responsibility for sliding into a new Great Depression onto the coronovirus. Like, we are unpretentious here and just passed by, and do not ask too many questions, which made the leadership of politics and economy the last 30 years. This applies not only to us, the west, too.

                    yeah, a lover of conspiracy theories.
                    well, they’d say so right away! lol

                    PS response did not sound .... request
                    1. Romey
                      Romey April 10 2020 16: 01 New
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                      I kind of answered. Of course, I didn't like the answer. I don't care, unlike you, what they think of me in your dear Italy, where many of your favorites have cozy houses in picturesque places. I am more worried about the state of the economy and the well-being of my own country, and not about the likely motivator. The fact that this fake "self-isolation" is useless in the sanitary and epidemiological respect, and in the economic sense is simply suicidal, is understandable even to non-specialists. You are worried about the usual propaganda show-off. Remember this post, and I will screen it: when the dollar skyrockets along with prices, small and medium-sized businesses begin to go broke, when the budget will not even have a penny, when another luntik declares that there is no money, but you need to hold on, you will say that it is not the fault of the leader with the camarilla, but this bad microorganism. This is the gist of all your hysteria around this virus.
                  2. ser56
                    ser56 April 11 2020 20: 18 New
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                    Quote: romey
                    RKhBZ troops are unnecessary to use at home either.

                    Is that you, Comrade Army General? soldier
    4. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 40 New
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      Quote: Olgovich
      The result in the elections, I think, will be determined by the number of victims of the pandemic

      Ento how? In the USA, the opinion of the people in the elections is not taken into account. The main thing in the US elections is the electors. As electors decide, that will be the president.
  4. Revival
    Revival April 10 2020 05: 48 New
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    Well and nonsense, honestly a word ...
    A dream of what author dreamed hallucinogenic ..
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 41 New
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      Quote: Revival
      A dream of what author dreamed

      Maybe propaganda begins to work to create an artificial "personality cult"?
      1. Revival
        Revival April 10 2020 17: 32 New
        +3
        It’s kind of like it is, now it’s just starting to have to go to grotesque forms, to a farcical farce, because it grows against the background of increasingly noticeable failures that are no longer able to mask even in peak value
  5. Peter Poroshin
    Peter Poroshin April 10 2020 06: 19 New
    +2
    Part of the reasonable in the article is. Only this little tiny piece. And this piece appeared not thanks, but contrary. And the cost of this particle will be prohibitive.
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 41 New
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      Quote: Petr Poroshin
      And the cost of this particle will be prohibitive.

      And how her propaganda will inflate to incredible sizes fellow
  6. Avior
    Avior April 10 2020 06: 32 New
    +4
    . It is unlikely that Vladimir Putin expected President Trump to accept the offer of humanitarian assistance.

    Which, I recall, ended in embarrassment-humanitarian aid was a purchase paid by the United States.
    Someone earned money at a time when in the United States they are ready to buy the necessary ventilation, masks, etc. anywhere, someone has promoted inside the country, covering up the sale of what is vital for their people, with beautiful information about Russian aid to America, but what effect will it be to have in the states? What is useful to the image of Russia was added by this story with the sale of what we ourselves need like air?
    1. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO April 10 2020 06: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: Avior
      Someone earned money at the moment when in the States they are ready to buy the necessary ventilation, masks, etc.
      hi It is very interesting who these persons are surname. The fact that they are close to the body, I have no doubt. No. Vultures, count cries for them. angry
      1. Gene84
        Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 42 New
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        Quote: DEPHIHTO
        It is very interesting who these persons are surname.

        Someone is a very large oligarch ... We hardly know the surname.
    2. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 43 New
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      Quote: Avior
      what effect will this have in the states?

      Zero.
      Quote: Avior
      What is useful to the image of Russia was added by this story with the sale of what we ourselves need like air?

      Nothing. But only that on TV they told our citizens about the supplies ...
  7. Old tanker
    Old tanker April 10 2020 06: 48 New
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    What kind of nonsense? Is the author self-emanating from his own illusions?
    1. Undecim
      Undecim April 10 2020 06: 57 New
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      Is the author self-emanating from his own illusions?
      Moreover, for a long time. And he writes against the background of high temperature.
    2. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 43 New
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      The author, a supporter of the current government. And so he wrote an agitation.
  8. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 10 2020 06: 55 New
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    Especially "pleased" is the passage about the humanitarian aid of Italy, which will destroy NATO. This is called - catching up and overtaking the Skakuas mass media?
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 April 10 2020 10: 47 New
      +7
      Well, "help" actually, it can be different, some may be ... well, let's just say, "oh-h-h-yen weighty (literally) ... go and check what's in the boxes on actually it was .... wink

      (Attention! This photo is actually an experiment and photo testing, the bars on it are not ingots without a numerical designation, and wooden layouts and the photo have nothing to do with real events, any coincidences are random). wink
    2. ser56
      ser56 April 11 2020 20: 20 New
      -3
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      It is called

      pretend to be wet dreams of reality ... request but salt was poured under their tail - let them bite ... bully
  9. Romey
    Romey April 10 2020 07: 10 New
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    This is no longer propaganda ... It's just a mockery of common sense and logic. Does anyone still have doubts that they are holding us for fools?
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood April 10 2020 07: 19 New
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      This is Kamenev, he has long had to go to work on Channel One. His efforts there will be appreciated.
      1. Normal ok
        Normal ok April 10 2020 11: 47 New
        -1
        He has long wanted to go there, but until they take it, he has not grown yet. So he is developing a portfolio for himself.
      2. Revival
        Revival April 10 2020 17: 35 New
        +3
        Looks at him Kiselev and M evening squint, as at the worst competitor)
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky April 10 2020 10: 00 New
      -11
      Quote: romey
      This is no longer propaganda ... It's just a mockery of common sense and logic. Does anyone still have doubts that they are holding us for fools?

      And what can hold you for them, since you are their embodiment? Here it is a no-brainer that a serious image blow has been inflicted on the United States as on the chief combatant "who tore" Russia "to shreds," and on Europe with their vaunted solidarity, which in fact turned out to be an empty shell. Let them eat with two spoons and digest. Nobody says that Russia is the unquestioning leader in this situation, but the fact that its actions were verified and accurate, and served to strengthen Russia's image on the world stage, is an indisputable fact.
      1. Romey
        Romey April 10 2020 10: 27 New
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        Announce the entire list of "accurate and verified actions" pzhalst ... This is an hour, not when we saw bitches with show-off, sorry we cut oil, and then after bobo we accept all the conditions of the Saudis? Or when in the media hysteria about the coronavirus is not worse than the plague, but equipment and people are sent to the enemies from the states and dear to the heart of every Putin's liberal patriot of Italy?
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky April 10 2020 11: 34 New
          -12
          Quote: romey
          Announce the entire list of "accurate and verified actions" pzhalsta .. This is an hour, not when we saw the bitches with show-off, pardon the oil, and then after the bobo we accept all the conditions of the Saudis? Or when in the media hysteria about the coronavirus is not worse than the plague, but equipment and people are sent to the enemies from the states and dear to the heart of every Putin's liberal patriot of Italy?

          What's the point? You have a need for a crappy presentation of any actions of Russia, wherever and however it manifests itself. Get what you need in the comments of your "brothers" present on the site, without dwelling on the materials of the articles.
          1. Romey
            Romey April 10 2020 12: 28 New
            +6
            We are not like that, life is like that ... If the actions are crappy, then no matter how you say "honey", this will not affect the substance in any way. And please, don't use the word "Russia". She has no shame and is filled with other content. Like the Russian Empire and the USSR. I prefer not to blaspheme, but to use the neutral "RF".
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard April 10 2020 22: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: romey
              We are not such, Life is so

              Quote so-so ... repeat
        2. ser56
          ser56 April 11 2020 20: 22 New
          -1
          Quote: romey
          accept all Saudi conditions?

          But did the USA wait for this to take on obligations to reduce oil production? hi
      2. Gene84
        Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 44 New
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        Quote: Nyrobsky
        a serious image blow to the USA

        Please explain what the image blow to the USA was and what consequences it will have for the USA. The answer is simple: no blow to the image. The United States has already wrapped everything in its favor. It remains for Hollywood to remove another blockbuster on this topic and that’s it, the image of the United States has been restored.
      3. Revival
        Revival April 10 2020 17: 36 New
        +1
        Yes, the indisputable fact is that this is nonsense.
    3. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 43 New
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      Quote: romey
      This is no longer propaganda

      Quite right. This is not propaganda. This is an artificial creation of a "personality cult".
  10. Greenwood
    Greenwood April 10 2020 07: 18 New
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    Hit the image of the United States in the world

    This is a major political success for Moscow.

    this is a serious blow to NATO

    Russia has seriously strengthened the authority of Belgrade and its own

    Russia, of course, has as its goal the destruction of NATO
    The author of the article is easily guessed by such pseudo-patriotic and populist phrases. Without conducting a normal analysis of the foreign policy situation, without touching on the internal economic and political situation in Russia, he sings the whole article to praises of Putin. Kamenev, aren't you tired, honestly ?!
  11. Van 16
    Van 16 April 10 2020 07: 43 New
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    Read. And immediately I thought: something for a long time I didn’t look at Kiselyov, it looks very much like that. Particularly impressed with the passage about the assistance of Italy, which could lead to the collapse of NATO.
  12. parusnik
    parusnik April 10 2020 08: 42 New
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    Read. I believe it. I look forward to the collapse of NATO once again. laughing
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra April 10 2020 09: 25 New
      -11
      The RF Armed Forces help Italy and the USA. SLOW. ARMED FORCES OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION. While NATO is in opera ...
      Explicit strengthening of NATO.
  13. Cowbra
    Cowbra April 10 2020 08: 45 New
    -13
    Here is finally an explanatory review! True, those who are here at work will wake up and pour the contents of their heads onto the branch.
    PiSi: Ah, well, well, I see, all the Gomnoguards are already in the ranks and are showing acute mental deficiency. Especially touched by the statements that "Puten is a had! Because he did not give the poor mattresses masks and ventilators for free!" Let me remind you. these are the same people who howled at all voices about loans for the purchase of Russian weapons. The ventilator from the KRET company, which has been under sanctions since 2014, is not a Russian product, and the money for them is bad! It is especially cool that aid after that does not cease to be considered humanitarian, even paid! And it is - help.
    Now they will remember how they howled "this while! Ventilators !!! MAYBE NOT ENOUGH !!!" Hamsters! I threw you a text - fly in! laughing Only first decide what you will yell - either paid then - this is a lot of help, or we admit that with IVL devices everything is awesome in Russia. And Russia did not tear off the necessary, helping
    1. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO April 10 2020 09: 08 New
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      For alternatively gifted liberputs fool -KRET is included in Rostec’s friendship with Chemezov and given the shortage of mechanical ventilation in the regions, their sale or donation (aid) to other countries is a crime against the people during the period of the coronavirus epidemic.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra April 10 2020 09: 12 New
        -11
        For those who are not gifted alternatively - and do not care - a Russian company, the money goes to Russia - at least stranglehold anger about this!
        A real pleasure to read as it rinses libshizu! What is characteristic, they habitually rinse themselves in the homna, while yelling the opposite things. This one just betrayed that Putin had correctly sold IVL from KRET to the Americans; it’s not for us to buy it expensive from a private owner! He creaks with his teeth and waves his fists, that someone from AMERICA has raped money, and he will be assaulted by a new US training manual !. Oh, this Putin had, oh ha-hell ...
    2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 10 2020 09: 29 New
      19
      Just talk to the doctors - you will find out how "awesome" we have with masks and with mechanical ventilation. With masks, however, even doctors do not need to just walk around pharmacies ... And the rest - your text perfectly demonstrates your level of intelligence.
      However, I find nothing surprising in the fact that the supporters of our government are not able to express their thoughts in any way connected. What power, such and supporters
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra April 10 2020 09: 39 New
        -16
        Ondrusha, I myself am a doctor, and I myself know that the mask does not save you from the virus, since with ventilation devices everything is better than necessary - there are more than a standard of 1 ventilation per 10000 inhabitants everywhere - two, but the most important thing is that hi By the way, is the mirror far from you? How it rins to the libshizu that Putenhat - IVL SELLED FOR MONEY! Not to give a country with "advanced medicine"! Oh ha hell! It is true that medicine has been developed in Russia. laughing
        Cheer up, libshiza, more energetic!
        1. Romey
          Romey April 10 2020 10: 48 New
          12
          The hysteria of the liberal Putinists continues and its degree of intensity is getting higher. Go on, don't be shy ...
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra April 10 2020 11: 09 New
            -14
            Then in the branch at once three hysterics fight in a panic and they have nothing to say laughing Go on, go on, I will collect clowns
            1. Gene84
              Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 44 New
              20
              Quote: Cowbra
              fight in panic and they have nothing to say

              Something I did not see panic in any of the opposition users ...
              1. Cowbra
                Cowbra April 10 2020 13: 54 New
                -7
                Yes, for example, here they are knocking their bald head on parquet that there are no ventilation devices. Not knowing that in Moscow there is even the only place in the country where the epidemic exists, there are more of them than those who are sick, and this despite the fact that mechanical ventilation is required by one out of 10 in the worst case. They accompany their patients with fantasies with loud IA about the level of someone else’s intelligence and send me conversations with themselves wassat
                In general, there is such an invention - glasses ... look at the cons. There is nothing to say on the topic, and as always they press it, in the hope that this is important to someone at all)))
        2. locos
          locos April 10 2020 14: 00 New
          +6
          Troll you Cowdra rude.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra April 10 2020 15: 05 New
            -4
            Tell me to answer in essence with the fact that
            a) The topic does not cut
            b) No information on the topic in his post can not give?
            Well then, show an example, answer in more detail than I did on this opus:
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Just talk to the doctors - you will find out how "awesome" we have with masks and with mechanical ventilation. With masks, however, even doctors do not need to just walk around pharmacies ... And the rest - your text perfectly demonstrates your level of intelligence.
            However, I find nothing surprising in the fact that the supporters of our government are not able to express their thoughts in any way connected. What power, such and supporters

            And then I can tell you this very characteristic for now. And it’s justified: Go ahead, I didn’t say anything on the topic, I insulted him - and in mud!
            1. Senior seaman
              Senior seaman April 10 2020 18: 59 New
              +4
              Quote: Cowbra
              And just

              Justify the bad of you.
        3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 10 2020 14: 09 New
          +5
          This stream of consciousness (or rather, its complete absence) must be commented on extensively. I'll do it tonight :)
        4. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 10 2020 18: 47 New
          +8
          Well, let's start.
          Quote: Cowbra
          Ondrusha, I myself am a medic

          Hopefully not a practitioner.
          Quote: Cowbra
          and I myself know that the mask does not save from the virus, since

          What I love about supporters of the current government is the ability to pass off a bug as a feature. Not enough masks to protect the population? The prices for masks are growing, and in half of the pharmacies, there are no masks, sorry! Yes, nonsense, they still do not save from the virus.
          I’ll tell you, as a doctor (suddenly you have to treat someone). The mask does not give a guarantee, but if used correctly, it reduces the chance of infection. Moreover, when she is on a sick person, and not on a healthy one, the chances of not infecting others are higher. That is why they are used by the whole world - whoever has them.
          And your statement - well ... as I said, which government, such and supporters. To lie, to lie is stupid and verifiable - that’s all.
          Quote: Cowbra
          with ventilation devices, everything is better than necessary - there is more than a standard of 1 ventilation per 10000 inhabitants everywhere - two

          Sorry, but your training manual is out of date. Urgently request a new one from EdRa :))) So, today's news:
          The head of the Ministry of Health, Mikhail Murashko, said that in a pandemic, the country's healthcare system lacks personal protective equipment and mechanical ventilation.
          “All health care systems are stressed by the number of consumables produced, these are personal protective equipment and mechanical ventilation devices,” he said on Rossiya-24.

          Few? Here is the news of April 7
          In Russia, there is a shortage of protective medical suits and mechanical ventilation apparatuses, said Industry and Trade Minister Denis Manturov at a meeting with President Vladimir Putin.

          Of course, they all lie, Cowbra's medic knows best ...
          But you know what's the funniest thing? It just touches me how the proponents of GDP manage to kill and kill themselves and bury them as soon as they begin to cite at least some figures. What did you write?
          2 mechanical ventilation for 10 thousand people.
          There are 146 million people in the Russian Federation. This means, according to your estimate, the number of ventilators in the country is 29 units. Well, here you are simply denigrating the state, since the same Center for Health Development in Skolkovo reports on the availability of almost 200 thousand ventilators. But we will take your numbers. How can you not trust the "medic" Cowbr? laughing
          So, how long will these ventilators last?
          Quote: Cowbra
          A ventilator is required for one of 10 in the worst case.

          That is, 29,8 thousand mechanical ventilation is enough for 300 thousand patients. But here's the problem - mechanical ventilation, in fact, is needed not only for those who have become infected with the coronavirus. The demand for them is quite large and without any pandemics, many patients need mechanical ventilation. And taking into account the fact that a significant part of the available mechanical ventilation is used, our ability to overcome the number of infected thresholds of 100 thousand people is not at all as good as it might seem. But no one has canceled such a scenario, alas.
          Well, there is a simple fact - in the presence of 38-43 thousand IVL (data differ) Manturov and the head of the Ministry of Health beat a blow - there is not enough IVL! And Cowbr is sincerely sure that 29,2 thousand mechanical ventilation will be enough for the country with a margin.
          Medic, yes.
          Quote: Cowbra
          How rinses here liberty that Putenhat - IVL SOLD FOR MONEY!

          Is there really a person on the site whose intelligence level was even lower than yours? I am amazed. Show it, please :))))))
          In general, the bulk of the people did not protest against the fact that the ventilators were sold, but against the fact that we generally share the ventilator when we ourselves lacked it.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra April 10 2020 19: 49 New
            -6
            1) Reduces the likelihood of getting infected from a sick person. What the GOVERNMENT is talking hard about. But since there are a lot of semi-smart people in the country who are talking nonsense about "means of protection" and a lot of even more semi-smart people who believe them - they think that EVERYONE should wear a mask! And having bought up all the masks yelling - did not Pachim have enough of them? !!! Because you don't need them! If every idiot buys a carriage of buckwheat, there will not be enough buckwheat either. Although a carriage of buckwheat is also FEW who need it, the government is not to blame.
            2) Mask protection mechanism for viral infection - Retention of steam / saliva from breathing. Ssha from gauze and not gundi! The virus is not a bacterium, it is filtered in both directions. DECREASE the probability - you will decrease in approximately the same way.
            3) With ventilation devices, the situation is this - IF the incidence will be like in Wuhan is not enough. And in any case. While this is not the case, you can leave the rest of the tale with you. And 10-50 sold weather devices will not do, you can please your girlfriends on the site.
            4) You did not understand the words of the minister, so
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            a man was found on the site whose level of intelligence was even lower than yours? I am amazed.

            But you did not calm down on this, and began to tell fairy tales why it was needed. Yes, in fact, only with paralysis of the respiratory center. And for such cases there is a STATISTICS, based on which the NORM for ventilation is calculated - 1 per 10000 population. You can exhale - as well as masks - in China, mechanical ventilation devices are now needed in the same proportion, and no one supplies hospitals with the epidemic in mind - no, because then the cities will consist of hospitals only! I understood your level of intelligence. Having read from the Internet we’re climbing to teach a professionally educated physician. Even a hospital attendant - do not pull. Well, at least they gave birth to more than the rest (Putenhat!) - this is a feat against their background
          2. Cowbra
            Cowbra April 10 2020 20: 19 New
            -5
            Yes, and a control in your head. Letters to the teacher. The virus is transmitted by contact. Remedy - rubber gloves. There are no problems with them, and whoever needs them is provided with them, but this is necessary only for those who need masks.
            That is, by means of protection - the state provided the population. The problem is that the population believes a herd of bitten bitten who, not understanding the subject, aimed them at masks that did not help, but forgot to say about gloves.
            The question is not to the government, but to those. who breeds panic. THAT IS TO YOU SPECIFICALLY!
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 10 2020 20: 51 New
              +4
              Quote: Cowbra
              But since there are a lot of semi-smart people in the country who are talking nonsense about "means of protection" and a lot of even more semi-smart people who believe them - they think that EVERYONE should wear a mask! And having bought up all the masks yelling - did not Pachim have enough of them? !!! Because you don't need them!

              M-dya. And that is what the doctor says.
              It would seem that even the most dumb dumbass should be clear why everyone should wear masks. But you don't understand this. Well, I'll reveal the "military secret"
              A person can be a carrier of the virus for a long time, but not know about it. There is such a thing, the incubation period is called. And some people carry the virus in a mild form, without paying special attention to it, but they are also contagious. And when these seemingly healthy people wear masks, they reduce the risk of the spread of the disease. That is why masks should be worn by everyone - this is the way to reach those who are sick, but do not know about it.
              Deuce to you in medical knowledge. I with my basics of medical knowledge obtained in the framework of higher education, and then I understand much more than you.
              Quote: Cowbra
              Ssha from gauze and not gundi!

              This is not a boy's speech, but a functionary of the United Russia party, bravo! At least now in a frame and on the wall. Although ... better still not on the wall, but against the wall. And not a quote, but "not a boy" - such and so divorced in our people like fleas on a barboske. "Since I cannot cope with my duties, then solve them for me, and do not gundi!"
              You know, most of EdRa is smarter than you. They at least keep their mouth shut.
              Quote: Cowbra
              I understood your level of intelligence.

              This is completely out of the question. However, I am glad that the word "intellect" was given to you without mistakes.
              Quote: Cowbra
              Yes, and a control in your head

              Come on!
              Quote: Cowbra
              The tier is transmitted by the contact.

              Yeah. Only here is the misfortune - some information that the virus is POSSIBLE not transmitted by airborne droplets appeared at the end of March, and the masks failed earlier. And this information is not necessarily reliable - WHO notes that this conclusion can be adjusted at any time.
              In general, the shooter of you is even worse than the medic
              1. ser56
                ser56 April 11 2020 20: 34 New
                -1
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                It would seem that even the most recent dumbass should be clear why masks should be worn by everyone

                Andrey - in the heat of the moment you stop thinking and accepting your opponent’s arguments! I know from my experience request The mask works for 2 hours - multiply by 100 million people - this is no industry can handle ... request
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                healthy people seem to wear masks, they reduce the risk of spreading the disease

                you are mistaken - the mask is protected from water and snot when coughing, etc. .... The virus has a size of 0,5 microns ... request
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 12 2020 10: 02 New
                  +1
                  Quote: ser56
                  Andrey - in the heat of the moment you stop thinking and accepting your opponent’s arguments! I know from my own experience request The mask works for 2 hours - multiply by 100 million people - this is no industry can handle ...

                  100 million people do not need to wear a mask around the clock. Especially during the period of "self-isolation". And the state, in general, should have a reserve for such cases (the so-called reserve, if this tells you something about something).
                  Quote: ser56
                  you are mistaken - the mask is protected from water and snot when coughing, etc. .... The virus has a size of 0,5 microns ...

                  Sergey, do not write nonsense, please. You reproach me for not thinking, and you are carrying wild nonsense on your blue eye. What is the size of the virus? Read at least something about airborne spread.
                  In short, a virus can be infected when a certain concentration of its presence is reached. And this happens when a person coughs, sneezes, sometimes (depending on the virus) breathing is enough (moisture that leaves the body when you exhale). The mask keeps this moisture. And a separate "bacteria" that has crawled through the mask will not infect anyone :))))
                  1. ser56
                    ser56 April 12 2020 14: 29 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    The mask holds this moisture

                    exactly - but what did I write about above?
                    Quote: ser56
                    mask protection against water and snot when kashchel, etc.

                    request
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    And a separate "bacteria" that has crawled through the mask will not infect anyone :))))

                    you are mistaken - it depends on where you get ... viruses multiply in bacteria ...

                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    And the state should actually have a reserve for such cases
                    he is, but only for doctors ... request


                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    the so-called reserve if you are talking about something

                    you suffered again and you do not hear the arguments request
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    Do not feel the need to wear a mask around the clock.

                    and you count for 10% one at a time repeat Then consider disposing of these masks according to their status as waste ... repeat By the way - did they wear the masks themselves? I wore in rooms with r / a aerosols - after 30 minutes you're sweating - it's hard to breathe ... request therefore, people free their noses and meaning in all this ... Do not consider optimization by the 1st criterion ... hi
      2. ser56
        ser56 April 11 2020 20: 28 New
        0
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        you will learn how "awesome" we have with masks and ventilators. With masks, however, even doctors do not need to just walk around pharmacies

        1) do not go to pharmacies without need ... request
        2) a quote from a friend of a doctor from Moscow - "But the picture is as it is. In principle, everything is enough, PPE, simple masks, medicines, consumables, devices, etc., etc. Something more, something less, but generally enough. Here really tired everyone who is involved in this thresher as dogs, it is. " I trust him, pro repeat
        http://politprosvet.forum24.ru/?1-2-0-00000746-000-0-1-1586622363

        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        What power, such and supporters

        criticism without measure is also not an indicator of a great mind! request The experience of Russia in this is instructive - from the people of the people to the demshiz ... hi

        Quote: Cowbra
        what is it right Putin sold the ventilators from KRET to the Americans,

        exactly! aerobatics trolling - devices are made by authorized enterprises ... hi the United States would crush others for such sanctions - a drop, but a drop wears away a stone ... repeat
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 12 2020 10: 03 New
          0
          Quote: ser56
          quote from a familiar doctor from Moscow

          That is, the head of the Ministry of Health and Manturov is not an argument for you. Okay:))))
          1. ser56
            ser56 April 12 2020 14: 31 New
            -2
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            That is, the head of the Ministry of Health and Manturov is not an argument for you. Okay:))))

            no, he is a politician, not an expert ... hi
    3. Revival
      Revival April 10 2020 17: 39 New
      +4
      You just hamloo only ..
      To fly into that heap of text that you have piled, call the sloth of the defenders, although they themselves will fly into nature
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra April 10 2020 18: 26 New
        -6
        Clear. Another hamster, to whom "in fact I have nothing to argue, so I will go straight to the insults."
        What are they all predictable ... One was naughty - a direct question to show how he can otherwise - merged - the second got out. Do you have a reshuffle?
        1. Romey
          Romey April 10 2020 20: 13 New
          +2
          What botya, are you one on the shift, or what? Or Temka is not very grateful? I understand, of course, it’s better to neighing bureaucrats with the same party union members ...
  14. 1536
    1536 April 10 2020 11: 41 New
    +4
    "Blessed is he who believes, warmth in the world!"
    (AS Griboyedov. From the play "Woe from Wit")
  15. 16112014nk
    16112014nk April 10 2020 11: 57 New
    +4
    This article is a balm for the soul of couch "patriots". And if you turn on your head?
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 45 New
      22
      Quote: 16112014nk
      And if you turn on your head?

      If you turn on your head, it turns out that not everything is as rosy as described in the article. And NATO is not on the verge of collapse. When the coronavirus passes, Italy will remain part of NATO and the European Union and will continue to conduct anti-Russian propaganda, and humanitarian aid will be forgotten as easily as Suvorov and Ushakov’s foreign campaign to help Italians.
      1. 16112014nk
        16112014nk April 10 2020 15: 19 New
        +1
        Absolutely right. More and more sanctions will be introduced, for example "for interference in internal affairs."
  16. faterdom
    faterdom April 10 2020 12: 04 New
    10
    Klesov in an interview (lives in Florida) says that there are three references to Russian help in the American press! pieces, two negative, one neutral. But, by and large, this fact is simply unknown to the people of the United States.
    Here is such a "image success".
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 45 New
      20
      Quote: faterdom
      the people of the United States, this fact is simply unknown

      Even if US citizens are aware of who is helping them, they perceive this as something obligatory and mundane.
  17. AK1972
    AK1972 April 10 2020 12: 28 New
    +4
    Moscow has other sources of income, financial reserves
    The author, please enlighten what sources of income do you mean? Are financial reserves by chance not those foreign pieces of paper that Sakhipzadovna purchases for gold? I realized the point is to flood USA and GB with gold, thereby depreciating it, at the same time depriving partners of cut paper, paralyzing their entire paper industry. And it remains only to wait that Trump on his knees will ask Putin to restore the ATS with the goal of being the first to join him as a junior partner. With such a financial policy, there is nothing to worry about coronavirus.
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 45 New
      19
      Quote: AK1972
      Moscow has other sources of income, financial reserves

      There is. Moscow, in contrast to the regions, has different sources of income. Moscow is still a financial center, there is no other such center in Russia. yes
  18. Overlock
    Overlock April 10 2020 13: 21 New
    15
    It is unlikely that Vladimir Putin expected President Trump to accept the offer of humanitarian aid, but Trump unexpectedly accepted it, and Putin had nowhere and no reason to retreat.

    it’s a shame to write such cheap things. Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Zakharova herself said that someone received money for this cargo. A load for money is not humanitarian aid, this is business.
    On the other hand. why does someone arbitrarily dispose of the national property that the country needs right now? Is this not an excess of authority, not to mention morality? Alien-everything, his-nothing?
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 47 New
      17
      Quote: Overlock
      why does someone arbitrarily dispose of national property

      Because we have capitalism, not Soviet power.
  19. Gene84
    Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 38 New
    19
    Russia, of course, has as its goal the destruction of NATO

    Are we able to destroy NATO? No. What can we give to Europe? Nothing. The epidemic will pass and all of Europe once again, with new fury, will begin to attack Russia on all fronts. The history of our state is a confirmation of this.
  20. Gene84
    Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 38 New
    14
    Italian politicians in this regard are unflattering in the press.

    What the Italian politicians will say at the end of the pandemic, the author is silent. And the politicians of Italy, after Europe and the USA, having forgotten about all the feuds and grievances that arose during the epidemic, will again become our enemies.
  21. Gene84
    Gene84 April 10 2020 13: 38 New
    18
    The strength of the new Russia is seen in the fact that it does not abandon the heritage of the USSR

    This is something new ... Where is the social policy of the USSR in Russia? Where is the Soviet retirement age? And many more questions starting on Where ...
  22. Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin April 10 2020 14: 14 New
    +6
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Engineer Schukin
    not an article, but a "propaganda feast during the plague"
    the sad thing is that for such meaningless scribbling they also receive money, and not rods

    The article is really too optimistic, but ... there is a fact in it that is really worth attention, namely the adoption of assistance from the Russian Federation by Trump. That is, they did not accept help from an ally or partner, from a military and political opponent. This fact is not very significant right now, but in the future this card will not be a weak trump card in a conversation with the West.

    In terms of help?
    Putin told Trump that he has surplus medical equipment. Trump agreed to buy this surplus. The United States is now buying up all that is needed for its country around the world.
    But where did Putin get his "surplus", especially in light of the fact that the pandemic is just coming to us, this is a question.
    1. Revival
      Revival April 10 2020 17: 41 New
      +2
      So they have surpluses, as they have enough for themselves.
      And the rest of the idleness, but who needs it, it "did not fit into the ventilator" ..
  23. exo
    exo April 11 2020 16: 19 New
    +2
    An article from the cycle: what is stupidity and how to deal with it?
    In general, complete nonsense. And all of our "victories", the author will be able to feel in his own skin, by the end of the year.
  24. iouris
    iouris April 11 2020 23: 36 New
    -1
    Quote: "Russia has, of course, the goal of destroying NATO ..." End of quote.
    Not. Kamenev is true to himself. Flint is a man.
    In fact, our goal is communism!
  25. Oyo Sarkazmi
    Oyo Sarkazmi April 12 2020 07: 47 New
    -1
    There is such a Chechen proverb, Basayev voiced: We take money, but we are not for sale. Perhaps this is a tracing-paper of the Irish proverb.
    So there will be no political vow ... from our humanitarian landing: Western Europe is diligently learning "Heil Hitler" with the correct Bandera accent.
  26. However, dear
    However, dear April 15 2020 22: 17 New
    +1
    Nasty from cheap show-offs. Everyone has a shortage everywhere, the virus is rushing. But America was humiliated by its humanitarian aid.