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The Ministry of Defense made a one-time payment to veterans on the 75th anniversary of the Victory

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The Ministry of Defense made a one-time payment to veterans on the 75th anniversary of the Victory

The Russian military department made a one-time payment to veterans of the Great Patriotic War and members of their families. This was reported by Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Tatyana Shevtsova.


According to the Defense Ministry, a lump-sum payment in connection with the 75th anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War affected more than 16 thousand military pensioners - participants of the war and members of their families. 75 thousand rubles were paid to veterans and invalids of the Great Patriotic War and their widows (widowers), as well as former underage prisoners of concentration camps. A lump sum payment of 50 thousand rubles was received by the rear workers of the Great Patriotic War period, who had state awards for their dedicated work, and adult prisoners of concentration camps.

The Russian Ministry of Defense made payments to veterans and invalids of the Great Patriotic War and their widows (widowers), former underage prisoners of concentration camps. This category of citizens of the Russian Federation was provided for a payment of 75 thousand rubles. This payment was received by 14 thousand 671 people. Also 50 thousand rubles. workers of the rear of the Great Patriotic War period, who received state awards for selfless labor, and adult prisoners of concentration camps received. This payment affected 1 thousand 541 pensioners

- Shevtsova said, adding that these payments were made in all regions of Russia, as well as in Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia.

It is also reported that pensions for May to military pensioners will be paid in advance - until April 20, 2020.

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  1. lis-ik
    lis-ik April 8 2020 18: 32 New
    -20
    75 thousand rubles were paid to veterans and invalids of the Great Patriotic War and their widows (widowers), as well as to former underage prisoners of the concentration camp
    Is this not a disgrace! 75 thousand! There are not as many as 75 thousand !!! How many veterans are left ?! Is it really impossible anymore? I think people deserve it, and not much budget would be lost.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 8 2020 18: 48 New
      +6
      Quote: lis-ik
      Is this not a disgrace

      You, the ever-aching trolls, will never please anything. Not paid - bad, paid - even worse. Just to try for any reason. negative Apparently the veteran has already opened his mouth to pay his grandfather. How much did you expect to squeeze him out?
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik April 8 2020 19: 00 New
        -1
        Quote: Piramidon
        Quote: lis-ik
        Is this not a disgrace

        You, the ever-aching trolls, will never please anything. Not paid - bad, paid - even worse. Just to try for any reason. negative Apparently the veteran has already opened his mouth to pay his grandfather. How much did you expect to squeeze him out?

        Styopa! My grandfather is a veteran and one and the second have long been dead, If you are used to squeezing a pension from your old people, then do not judge by yourself. And certainly my grandfathers would not have taken such a handout when one trip to the store and another communal apartment went off scale! So which of us is a Troll, a big question. Let’s see how you take a while after a while, and I’m quite well off.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon April 8 2020 19: 15 New
          +8
          Quote: lis-ik
          If you used to squeeze a pension from your old people

          I’ve already exchanged the eighth dozen, and long retired, a troll boy. I have enough of it and I do not whine, like you do not demand anything. But you're used to counting other people's money. How much do you think you need to pay a veteran who is already over 90, and what can he spend this money on? Again, give grandchildren and children? Did they deserve it? Just to write something, for the sake of pluses.
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik April 8 2020 19: 18 New
            0
            Quote: Piramidon
            Quote: lis-ik
            If you used to squeeze a pension from your old people

            I’ve already exchanged the eighth dozen, and long retired, a troll boy. I have enough of it. But you're used to counting other people's money.

            Step. So I'm not a boy anymore. Sixth exchanged. I got used to all my work to achieve. Do you have enough pensions? Then a simple question. What is yours? And who pays extra, and where? Because, as many are missing. And yes = Piramidon? You arrived at VO very on time during the pension reform. So which of us is a troll?
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon April 8 2020 19: 38 New
              +7
              Quote: lis-ik
              Do you have enough pensions? Then a simple question. What is yours? You arrived at VO very on time during the pension reform.

              My answer is: my pension is 27. I have been at the HE since 000, when I had not heard of pension reform. They banned him twice because of disputes with trolls like you. But the question of what veterans can spend money on (specifically for MYSELF and not for grandchildren), you did not answer.
          2. Malyuta
            Malyuta April 8 2020 23: 19 New
            11
            Quote: Piramidon
            But you're used to counting other people's money. How much do you think you need to pay a veteran who is already over 90, and what can he spend this money on?

            Guys, what are you arguing about? You are talking about the same thing, but in different ways.
            I’ll tell you something, friends, of those who have laid down their heads in the name of Victory and those who have died of trees and flowers a long time ago from the wounds after the war, and there are only a few veterans left today and we owe it to all of them unpaid.
            И дело тут вовсе не в 75 тырах, а втом пиаре ,который вокруг этого провластные сми раздули. Дали бы тихо и всё, ан нет , нам же "великую" заботу о ветеранах показать надо со стороны главфинпрода.
            It is clear that these grandmothers and grandfathers do not even need this fig, except for care and care, because the time is not far when they will return to their platoons, companies, batteries and crews ....
            Only PR for them is NOT NECESSARY! And to tell you the truth, 75 sput by today's standards - giving it, against the background of 4,5 lyam a day at the portfolio holder, would not have been a disgrace.
            PySy. About 10 years old, I congratulated along with my children according to the tradition of the veterans of May 9th, that is, whom we see, we congratulate them until the flowers run out for the children, then the candies are used and just thanks. So, we got one Dedok, in uniform, he walks one bodily step, a cane under his arm on his chest, some fighting even in our eyes, the sun bunnies sparkled from the quantity, not Grandfather, but directly the Sun, there were no jubilee .... I still thought , the pilot probably ...
            Ну мои малые сразу к Деду, цветы, поздравления, он благодарит слова напутственные говорит..Я в петлицы глядь, танкист! Ну говорю я ему , вот это ДА, такой "иконостас", аж дрожь пробирает , сколько ж надо геройства на фронте совершить, чтобы так Родина отметила! А он- да разное бывало , сынок...А тут дочь моя старшая, бодрым голосом , а мой Прадедушка на Курской Дуге погиб! Да , добавил я, сгорел наш дед под Курском вместе с экипажем...... Дед постоял, помолчал, посмотрел на нас , взял меня за локоть, придвинуд к себе и прямо в ухо мне ;"Если бы я знал, сынок, что такая .... жизнь настанет и лучше б я тоже там под Курском сгорел..."
            This Grandfather doesn’t leave my mind, I won’t forget his words on the coffin of life ..... because it turns out everything that they fought for, we betrayed, betrayed both the living and the dead ....
            That's what you need to think about, and not about 75tyr ugh on them and grind !!!
        2. NN52
          NN52 April 8 2020 19: 52 New
          +4
          lis-ik (Sergey)

          If you write about your grandfathers, veterans (of which I doubt ..), then do not write such nonsense ...
          About serving and so on ...
          I agree with Stepan, you are a troll.
        3. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova April 9 2020 07: 40 New
          +1
          it's better than nothing
          1. novel66
            novel66 April 9 2020 10: 24 New
            +1
            but less than could be
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova April 9 2020 12: 45 New
              0
              not a great gift for veterans
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      3. Lamata
        Lamata April 8 2020 19: 31 New
        +2
        Please rate the life of a soldier, a nurse,, a nurse on the FRONT.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv April 8 2020 19: 58 New
          11
          Quote: Lamata
          Please rate the life of a soldier, a nurse,, a nurse on the FRONT.

          You cannot share a single whole. My grandmother won five times darned the same soldiers on the Leningrad Front. And when, after three days of operations, she simply fell asleep and the Nazis bombed the hospital, the fighters laughed. Such a powerful snoring was that all the bombs fell somewhere on the sidelines
        2. Lamata
          Lamata April 8 2020 20: 12 New
          -3
          Ah, the female dog, who minus the life of the war veterans !!!! That's what, dandy ineta
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt April 9 2020 10: 48 New
            -1
            Quote: Lamata
            Please rate the life of a soldier, a nurse,, a nurse on the FRONT.

            You started the conversation for the price, you play the wrong feelings. At the front, the life of a soldier has only one price - Victory. Therefore, they survived. They would start counting for money, then not see us winning, as our ears ..
            The planet is burning and spinning,
            Smoke above our Motherland
            And that means we need one win,
            One for all - we will not stand for the price.
        3. Piramidon
          Piramidon April 8 2020 20: 48 New
          -2
          Quote: Lamata
          Please rate the life of a soldier, a nurse,, a nurse on the FRONT.

          This troll Sergey is trying to evaluate here
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik April 8 2020 21: 16 New
            -1
            Quote: Piramidon
            Quote: Lamata
            Please rate the life of a soldier, a nurse,, a nurse on the FRONT.

            This troll Sergey is trying to evaluate here

            On the contrary, Styopa, I believe that he will not be appreciated.
          2. Lamata
            Lamata April 8 2020 22: 25 New
            -3
            Let evaluates his shusher, and not people.
      4. Lamata
        Lamata April 8 2020 19: 34 New
        -2
        Please rate the death from starvation of my aunt, under the age of 2 years (early 1942)
        1. Lamata
          Lamata April 8 2020 20: 53 New
          -8
          That's who messed up the message this, here it is, jackals, worms, dirt
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny April 9 2020 09: 02 New
            +3
            Вколи себе галоперидол и успокойся. Тебя минусуют потому, что твои комменты с "заботой о ветеранах" фальшивые. Ты льешь помои на страну. Ты от ветеранов хоть раз слова охаивания слышал? Что они прошли, и что ты? И какое тогда ты имеешь право заниматься подстрекательством в сети?
    2. Terenin
      Terenin April 8 2020 19: 03 New
      12
      Quote: lis-ik
      Is this not a disgrace! 75 thousand! There are not as many as 75 thousand !!!

      Just, apart from other benefits, a gesture of goodwill is made. Maybe a little, maybe not.
      Tell me, what amount do you think should be paid, and why exactly this, taking into account the age of the beneficiary?
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik April 8 2020 19: 06 New
        -1
        Quote: Terenin
        Quote: lis-ik
        Is this not a disgrace! 75 thousand! There are not as many as 75 thousand !!!

        Just, apart from other benefits, a gesture of goodwill is made. Maybe a little, maybe not.
        Tell me, what amount do you think should be paid, and why exactly this?

        They are already very few. I think that veterans should at least be presented with an apartment in large cities. I understand that grandchildren and great-grandchildren will take advantage, but at least they will remember our grandfather and our history.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 19: 11 New
          +9
          Mine back in 2005 gave an apartment. To the 60th anniversary of the Victory.
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon April 8 2020 19: 29 New
          +4
          Quote: lis-ik
          I think that veterans should at least be presented with an apartment in large cities.

          Do they need this apartment? Only if not for yourself, but for children and grandchildren, who often do not represent anything of value. Yes, offer me an apartment for free in these madhouses such as Moscow, I will refuse. Veterans need to live quietly and calmly.
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik April 8 2020 19: 38 New
            -1
            Quote: Piramidon
            Yes, offer me an apartment for free in these madhouses such as Moscow, I will refuse. Veterans need a quiet and peaceful life

            Styopa! This is an investment. For the same children and grandchildren. And a very big memory! This is what betrays you. An adult would really be thinking about posterity.
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon April 8 2020 19: 50 New
              +4
              Quote: lis-ik
              This is an investment. For the same children and grandchildren.

              And then they are from which side? You already decide who you stand for. For veterans or for their children and grandchildren, who, sometimes, did not deserve it.
              1. lis-ik
                lis-ik April 8 2020 19: 51 New
                -2
                Quote: Piramidon
                Quote: lis-ik
                This is an investment. For the same children and grandchildren.

                You already decide who you stand for. For veterans or for their children and grandchildren, who, sometimes, did not deserve it.

                And for those and for others. They are interconnected. This is our story. They must remember and honor. At least on a material example. Unfortunately, in our time the only way.
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon April 8 2020 20: 55 New
                  +5
                  Quote: lis-ik
                  They are interconnected. This is our story

                  Well yes. Some children and grandchildren often draw swastikas on their foreheads and you are ready to give them grandfathers' payments. Indiscriminately.
                2. Voyager
                  Voyager April 9 2020 10: 00 New
                  -1
                  Quote: lis-ik
                  And for those and for others. They are interconnected. This is our story. They must remember and honor. At least on a material example. Unfortunately, in our time the only way.

                  Can there then give everyone an apartment? We all seem to have fathers and grandfathers fought, no?
        3. Undecim
          Undecim April 8 2020 20: 54 New
          +7
          They are already very few. I think that veterans should at least be presented with an apartment in large cities. I understand that grandchildren and great-grandchildren will take advantage, but at least they will remember our grandfather and our history.
          But what about the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of those veterans who did not survive? They also want to remember their grandfathers and great-grandfathers in an apartment in a large city in order to remember their grandfathers and great-grandfathers. Why are they worse?
          Or without an apartment grandfather is not remembered?
        4. Terenin
          Terenin April 8 2020 21: 41 New
          11
          Quote: lis-ik
          They are already very few.
          This is so, unfortunately

          Quote: lis-ik
          I think that veterans should at least be presented with an apartment in large cities.
          Of course it would be worth it, there is no doubt about it. They, apartments, are presented and not a few. But the question you had was about money.
          According to your logic, you need to pay 2-3 million rubles each, but then this is not a reward, but the target direction of funds for the construction (purchase) of an apartment (house).
          В этом случае согласования, утверждения, подключаются заказчики, подрядчики (субчики), контролирующие фин органы... и в итоге, ветеран в "пролете" request

          Quote: lis-ik
          I understand that grandchildren and great-grandchildren will take advantage,
          This is only later, in the courts, upon presentation of the right of inheritance

          Quote: lis-ik
          but at least they will remember our grandfather and our history.
          no one ever honored the Memory of the Ancestors and their history for money and material wealth No.
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik April 8 2020 21: 57 New
            -6
            Quote: Terenin
            Quote: lis-ik
            I understand that grandchildren and great-grandchildren will take advantage,
            This is only later, in the courts, upon presentation of the right of inheritance

            Quote: lis-ik
            but at least they will remember our grandfather and our history.
            no one ever honored the Memory of the Ancestors and their history for money and material wealth

            Геннадий. Я не говорю о судах. Само собой разумеющееся о том,что деды сами отдадут,то что имеют, и отнюдь не по принуждению,а по любви к своим потомкам и по велению души, как и любой русский человек, а история в данном случае будет,как наука. "Ведь не даром Москва спалённая пожаром......"
        5. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova April 9 2020 07: 44 New
          +1
          an apartment is possible but only without inheritance
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        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik April 8 2020 19: 50 New
          -4
          Quote: Andobor
          Quote: Terenin
          Tell me, how much

          - this is a hired fight - and you are talking to him like a real person.

          Did you call me new? Where did you get the stuffed scarecrow from?
          1. RideMaster
            RideMaster April 9 2020 02: 11 New
            -4
            Troll, what’s up there, all from beyond Crimea freaking out?
      3. Lamata
        Lamata April 8 2020 20: 35 New
        0
        And how can money then? 365 a year to show respect and love
      4. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 8 2020 21: 07 New
        +1
        It was possible to pay 750000 or 1,5 million each - there were few veterans left, but the leadership, as always, was greedy.
    3. Sandor Clegane
      Sandor Clegane April 8 2020 19: 11 New
      +7
      Quote: lis-ik
      as well as former juvenile prisoners in a concentration camp
      Is this not a disgrace!

      you certainly don’t change, here is my father, a prisoner not of legal age, it’s very nice, and that you would know !!! they all get paid to retirement monthly not much money a little more than 3000 rubles ....
    4. Tusv
      Tusv April 8 2020 19: 37 New
      -1
      Quote: lis-ik
      Is this not a disgrace! 75 thousand! There are not as many as 75 thousand !!!

      Here's how to look. The word Disgrace in Old Russian from See them. The same parade. Now for the soldiers and the rear of the Red Army. But Shame - Look at the execution. This is for you, those who are trying to trample the Great Victory. Veterans will leave, but their children and grandchildren then remain. In general, sweet life you are not expected
    5. Sergey Averchenkov
      Sergey Averchenkov April 8 2020 20: 56 New
      +5
      Do you want what? One hundred thousand millions? I can’t understand you, for me 75 thousand, this is a normal amount. Apparently for you a trifle.
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik April 8 2020 21: 19 New
        -7
        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
        Do you want what? One hundred thousand millions? I can’t understand you, for me 75 thousand, this is a normal amount. Apparently for you a trifle.

        This is not an amount. For me, it’s really almost a trifle, and for many, after the next show off of oil crooks. I'm talking about veterans who naturally don't work.
  2. DMB 75
    DMB 75 April 8 2020 18: 39 New
    14
    This is right. This is good. But this is very bad. State Duma deputy Andrei Kuzmin (LDPR) introduced a bill in the lower house of parliament proposing the complete exemption of participants in World War II from paying for housing and housing and communal services. The Cabinet did not support the bill. Krokhobory , found something to save. On yourself, my beloved, they didn’t do anything .. Several thousand of them remained and veterans, they would have ruined the budget, of course ...
  3. Leshy1975
    Leshy1975 April 8 2020 18: 41 New
    +9
    as well as in Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia.

    They paid it well, of course, that this is all, one of the last payments, there is almost no one to pay. Why such a strange list of countries? And other veterans in the post-Soviet space? Why are they divided? I think this is unfair. It is unlikely that they shared themselves at the fronts. If they began to pay to those living not only in the Russian Federation, then either to everyone, or only to their fellow citizens.
    I would even understand if everyone who has a passport of the Russian Federation, no matter who lives where. And so, I do not quite understand what principle was shared, where is Russophobia more? Well, who lives in Ukraine or in Moldova, for example? Is their contribution less than that of Latvian veterans? Again these fucking political games and PR?
    1. Lamata
      Lamata April 8 2020 19: 51 New
      +3
      And what is not paid to the Kazakh people, huh? 600 died from the Kazakh SSR, Serik is much closer to me than some Adam of their tribalists.
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 8 2020 22: 02 New
      +2
      he is not strange. almost all states except these give their veterans money. and paying them back from us is double. these same three countries you know how to relate to your veterans. accordingly, Russia pays them instead. Ukraine, like Moldova, has its own pension systems and ways to accrue to WWII veterans. if we start paying too, the question arises: if we pay them, then why these countries do not pay our veterans / I think all this is in the CIS treaties and more.
      1. Leshy1975
        Leshy1975 April 8 2020 22: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: carstorm 11
        he is not strange. almost all states except these give their veterans money. and paying them back from us is double. these same three countries you know how to relate to your veterans. accordingly, Russia pays them instead. Ukraine, like Moldova, has its own pension systems and ways to accrue to WWII veterans. if we start paying too, the question arises: if we pay them, then why these countries do not pay our veterans / I think all this is in the CIS treaties and more.

        It is unlikely that the same Ukraine or Moldova or Kyrgyzstan (well, etc.) is capable of making such a payment of 75000 rubles. This is still noticeable money. And it is generally not known whether such payments are made by Victory Day in all countries of the former Union. This is of course my personal opinion, but I would still pay all veterans in the post-Soviet space.
        This is a real recognition of their merits and a strong move to raise the authority of the Russian Federation among the population countries of the former Union. I would do just that. hi
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 8 2020 22: 59 New
          0
          it is their business. I do not think that the amounts are less globally. each country has its own approaches to payments. but in the Baltic states they simply do not exist at all. and as for the gesture, it will not work. this is pressure on the authority of these states. it can do it right but not beautiful. therefore, there are agreements on this subject. that there would be no confusion.
  4. purple
    purple April 8 2020 19: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: lis-ik
    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: lis-ik
    Is this not a disgrace

    You, the ever-aching trolls, will never please anything. Not paid - bad, paid - even worse. Just to try for any reason. negative Apparently the veteran has already opened his mouth to pay his grandfather. How much did you expect to squeeze him out?

    Styopa! My grandfather is a veteran and one and the second have long been dead, If you are used to squeezing a pension from your old people, then do not judge by yourself. And certainly my grandfathers would not have taken such a handout when one trip to the store and another communal apartment went off scale! So which of us is a Troll, a big question. Let’s see how you take a while after a while, and I’m quite well off.


    how much shocking ... just like a troll .. Understand the Veterans are quite wealthy people now, and yes .. these 75 thousand are likely to go to grandchildren and great-grandchildren
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik April 8 2020 19: 34 New
      -3
      Quote: purple
      how much shocking ... just like a troll .. Understand the Veterans are quite wealthy people now, and yes .. these 75 thousand are likely to go to grandchildren and great-grandchildren

      Listen not to the troll. First, descend from heaven to earth, and then reason. I have been working in trading all my life, and I probably know the price of 75 thousand rubles. Now a simple trip to the store costs much more than a thousand per family. I understand that a veteran, in these years, already does not need much. But what about just a sense of dignity and concern for the state?
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova April 9 2020 07: 48 New
        +3
        my grandfather a veteran two years ago had a pension of about 50 thousand, so he also helped his grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren with money
    2. Malyuta
      Malyuta April 8 2020 22: 30 New
      +6
      Quote: purple
      how much shocking ... just like a troll .. Understand the Veterans are quite wealthy people now, and yes .. these 75 thousand are likely to go to grandchildren and great-grandchildren

      Listen, voia! But do you care where the money received by veterans goes? We are all indebted to them, and the fact that the chief finance officer gave them a handout from the gentleman's shoulder of 75 tyrov is because he has not known the money bill for a long time and he sent his conscience through friends to offshore.
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 8 2020 19: 19 New
    +7
    The right decision, it was necessary to pay extra to the Veterans every year, because less and less of them survived!
  6. Van 16
    Van 16 April 8 2020 19: 37 New
    +9
    I would still remember about the Children of War. They also had a very hard time. And there are also not so many left.
  7. north 2
    north 2 April 8 2020 19: 49 New
    +4
    If it is true that, in addition to veterans living in Russia, money will be paid only to veterans
    living in the Baltic states, then this is not a fair and very not beautiful act. But what about the veterans living in the former rest of the Soviet Republics.
    As for the amount of the payment, it is not for veterans to discuss the amount of this sum, there is no less beautiful deed than the decision of the authorities not to pay money to the veterans in the remaining eleven former Soviet Republics. Veterans will decide for themselves whether they are satisfied with the size of the payout or not, but about the fact that they deprived veterans of living, for example, in Ukraine, Armenia or in the former Republics of Central Asia, it’s necessary to sound the alarm.
    It is hoped that until the Victory Day money will be received by every single veteran living in all the former Soviet republics. Maybe payments will be in two stages. Although this is already dancing on its last nerves
    those veterans who did not pay the money today. In this case, it is not clear what the Ministry of Defense thinks
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 8 2020 22: 09 New
      +7
      Yes, because they pay their countries. and the Baltic states do not pay. for this reason we only make payments to these three countries. turn on your head already.
  8. Andobor
    Andobor April 8 2020 19: 50 New
    -1
    This is only from the Ministry of Defense.
    - In total, 1 people will receive payments, including 148 people for 441 thousand rubles each, and 537 people for 057 thousand rubles each.
    1. north 2
      north 2 April 8 2020 20: 23 New
      +4
      and it was necessary at the beginning of the message about today's payments from the beginning to write that every single veteran in all the former Republics of the USSR would receive the money, and today the Moscow Region paid only part of them, that is, those who live in Russia and in the Baltic states. Can you imagine how many veterans they are
      they read a truncated article with current information, or heard some current information on TV that they paid only in Russia and the Baltic states, how many of them jumped and so high pressure, how many had to call an ambulance, and how many simply burst into tears ...
      1. Andobor
        Andobor April 8 2020 20: 46 New
        -1
        Quote: north 2
        Today, the Moscow Region paid only part of them. That is, those who live in Russia and in the Baltic

        The Moscow Region made all payments, it pays only to military pensioners, the rest is paid by the government through the Pension Fund. Aunt - a home front worker received the same thing yesterday.
        1. north 2
          north 2 April 8 2020 21: 22 New
          +3
          and what, military pensioners live only in the Russian Federation and in the Baltic states, that only they were paid by the Moscow Region. If the rest, that is, home front workers, etc., are paid by the Pension Fund, then who will pay military pensioners, say in Ukraine or Kazakhstan, if the Moscow Region pays only military pensioners in the Russian Federation and the Baltic states, as the article says and how you write. ..
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 April 8 2020 22: 10 New
            +3
            for sure. they will pay their own and we still have to. two times or what? but who will pay our second time? maybe Ukraine? and Kazakhstan pays extra to our veterans? stop with stupid things.
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 April 9 2020 02: 51 New
        +1
        They will be paid only to Russian veterans and veterans living in the Baltic states. Other republics pay their governments.
  9. Lamata
    Lamata April 8 2020 20: 01 New
    -6
    And that Chubais is quiet, which does not speak out?
    1. NN52
      NN52 April 8 2020 20: 07 New
      +8
      Lamata (Igor)

      Уважаемый, вы "сильно бухаете" в карантине?? Вы чубатого зачем сюда приплели? Или в Алма Ата так принято? Выпили, не позорьтесь, на сайт не заходите.
      1. Lamata
        Lamata April 8 2020 20: 16 New
        -4
        With the virus, it is not advisable to drink, the immunity drops. Chubaty dragged, maybe out of place, I agree, but he loves, no, no, speak out, Let me tell you, the country has a difficult situation, Well, tell me, you’re a friend yourself, tell me, just in patsansky, tell me an opinion. As for entering the site, this is my business.
        1. NN52
          NN52 April 8 2020 20: 21 New
          +4
          Lamata (Igor)

          Stop thumping. Your comments are out of place and out of reach.
          1. Lamata
            Lamata April 8 2020 20: 23 New
            -2
            Contact you, mustard, ok?
            1. NN52
              NN52 April 8 2020 20: 41 New
              +5
              Lamata (Igor)

              Igor ... I was correct so far .. bye. (see our previous communications, you didn’t forget ..)
              And once again please specify, what relation do you have now to Russia to criticize us here? and something that we recommend to the Russians? so that forum users understand.
              1. Lamata
                Lamata April 8 2020 20: 42 New
                -4
                First, I’m not Igor to you; learn this, let's move on.
                1. NN52
                  NN52 April 8 2020 21: 58 New
                  +4
                  Lamata (Igor)

                  Further, Igor, you won’t go ... You have given us too much advice from Kazakhstan here in Kazakhstan on all topics today and not only.
                  1. Lamata
                    Lamata April 8 2020 22: 28 New
                    -5
                    You, at least, learn the appeal to a stranger to you. Just learn. wink
                    1. NN52
                      NN52 April 8 2020 22: 46 New
                      +3
                      Lamata (Igor)

                      По поводу "усвойте", и на вы, это относится к незнакомогу человеку...
                      1. Lamata
                        Lamata April 8 2020 22: 52 New
                        -5
                        Oh, do I know you ?? not divide, how, and when did you meet?
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek April 9 2020 01: 07 New
      +6
      Quote: Lamata
      And that Chubais is quiet, which does not speak out?

      Chubais is a bitch, a sylvester, or is any of yours ?? !!! something permanent statements on any occasion not to be seen !!! wassat laughing
  10. Old26
    Old26 April 8 2020 20: 11 New
    +8
    Quote: lis-ik
    Is this not a disgrace! 75 thousand! There are not as many as 75 thousand !!! How many veterans are left ?! Is it really impossible anymore? I think people deserve it, and not much budget would be lost.

    А ветераны, кстати, и не возмущаются. Не слышал ни слова: "почему так мало". Для большинства ветеранов это подарок. Но порой они и не знают, что с ними делать.
    My father, for example, said that he didn’t really need them, and he was going to give them to us, or rather his granddaughter, to buy furniture for her apartment. Although I am against, but if he decided, it is unlikely that he can be convinced. The only thing I tried was to say that he should leave at least half, or a third, to himself.

    Quote: lis-ik
    They are already very few. I think that veterans should at least be presented with an apartment in large cities. I understand that grandchildren and great-grandchildren will take advantage, but at least they will remember our grandfather and our history.

    This has already passed. We have about 20-25 years ago, the governor began the construction of a house of veterans. So what? Most of the veterans immediately registered there their relatives, grandchildren (granddaughters). The next house - there was already a ban on registering someone. And the grandchildren and great-grandchildren are worthless if they will only remember their grandfather-great-grandfather because of the apartment
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik April 8 2020 20: 27 New
      -1
      Quote: Old26
      This has already passed. We have about 20-25 years ago, the governor began the construction of a house of veterans. So what? Most of the veterans immediately registered there their relatives, grandchildren (granddaughters). The next house - there was already a ban on registering someone. And the grandchildren and great-grandchildren are worthless if they will only remember their grandfather-great-grandfather because of the apartment

      And in Soviet times, they bought a car out of turn. Did it discount their contribution to victory or memory? No and no again! What they could, so they helped. In our country it is always so, even small, but help children and grandchildren. We have such a mentality. That’s why I say that for any veteran the well-being of the family is holy!
      1. Lamata
        Lamata April 8 2020 20: 39 New
        0
        I have a grandfather, I got extra rations or something, with the union, I don’t remember what was called, 80 years. I was then, about 14 years old, I followed him, and my grandfather was stern, he said, eat it yourself, you do not need to know hunger.
    2. Aag
      Aag April 8 2020 20: 57 New
      +5
      Так и раньше было,и в 70-х,80-х годах:льготные очереди на квартиры,"Запорожцы",-пользовались дети,внуки.Бывало и грызлись ещё за это...Слаб человек...
      I’m probably not going to comment on payments. But in terms of real assistance, I think it is appropriate to release (fie, a word or something) veterans of the Second World War and whether people equated with them from all payments (communal services, communications, etc.) targeted.
      1. Aag
        Aag April 8 2020 21: 28 New
        +4
        И ещё.Может не по теме.Разделов сайта ВО "новости"," мнения" касается в большей степени.Господа соотечественники,товарищи соратники,комрады зарубежные гости,давайте уже не захламлять сайт разборками типа "ты кто такой?"," а ты кто такой?".Троль-не троль,проплаченный-не проплаченный,если проплаченный-то кем,если кем-то зачем?...Базар какой-то...Пожалуйста,давайте посолиднее.Ясен-красен,все порой на эмоциях,но держите себя в руках!Минусуешь,-аргументируй!Плюсики ставишь,-подумай,выразил автор своё мнение,или решил "хайпануть".Юмор,по-моему,вообще по отдельной шкале оценивать должно. hi
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 8 2020 22: 16 New
      0
      you probably meant a house for. Veteran’s house is not just a home. it is a system. a separate living room with all amenities;
      5-one meals;
      medical care (qualified medical personnel);
      full domestic services (washing, cleaning, etc.);
      for those in need - round-the-clock care (nurse);
      assisting in the implementation of personal hygiene measures;
      regular walks in nature. you can’t register other people there. in fact, this is the house in which people are on security. at least everything that I saw at home in all was like that.
  11. north 2
    north 2 April 8 2020 20: 59 New
    +4
    Quote: lis-ik
    Quote: Old26
    This has already passed. We have about 20-25 years ago, the governor began the construction of a house of veterans. So what? Most of the veterans immediately registered there their relatives, grandchildren (granddaughters). The next house - there was already a ban on registering someone. And the grandchildren and great-grandchildren are worthless if they will only remember their grandfather-great-grandfather because of the apartment

    And in Soviet times, they bought a car out of turn. Did it discount their contribution to victory or memory? No and no again! What they could, so they helped. In our country it is always so, even small, but help children and grandchildren. We have such a mentality. That’s why I say that for any veteran the well-being of the family is holy!

    Exactly . In Russia, helping children and grandchildren has always been a national tradition and custom, as well as
    live in a community and collectively. If the communists ravaged the noble nests, they failed to destroy
    family nests in villages and villages. The collective farms have nothing to do with it, the collective, kindred way of life in the villages existed from the very sources of Russia. Grandfathers always helped grandchildren, and parents to children. Also
    the most transformed during the great migration of Russians to the new lands of the Empire in Tsarist Russia and under the Communists, when people from the cities of central Russia went to build cities and factories in the Far East, Central Asia or the Baltic states. They brought traditions to support those born there.
    children and grandchildren, and therefore survived among the local Aboriginal people. Quite different in the West. There neither parents help children, nor grandfathers help grandchildren.
  12. for
    for April 8 2020 21: 31 New
    +7
    I do not know whether it is a lot or a little, but they are not given from the heart. All these parades of congratulations (official) are somehow strained. Under the USSR it was more modest, sincere. Especially like the decorated signaling cars with stupid inscriptions.
  13. Old26
    Old26 April 8 2020 23: 06 New
    +5
    Quote: carstorm 11
    you probably meant a house for. Veteran’s house is not just a home. it is a system. a separate living room with all amenities;
    5-one meals;
    medical care (qualified medical personnel);
    full domestic services (washing, cleaning, etc.);
    for those in need - round-the-clock care (nurse);
    assisting in the implementation of personal hygiene measures;
    regular walks in nature. you can’t register other people there. in fact, this is the house in which people are on security. at least everything that I saw at home in all was like that.

    Not really, Dmitry. The complex certainly existed. The house had a store, a pharmacy, a first-aid post (or something like this), and a laundry. But as far as I heard, there was no talk of 5 meals a day, about the nurse and consumer services - to be honest, I don’t know. But in principle I agree with you. If you make housing for veterans, then just that. With medical staff, in short, full board.
  14. Igor Ivanov_4
    Igor Ivanov_4 April 9 2020 04: 59 New
    0
    Shame on you!
    My mother, as a child, simply could not fight or work or partisan, moreover, when OURS shamefully retreated and surrendered the Bryansk region under occupation, they bombed everything, including our house. And now they say - you lived in the occupation, you are not supposed to!
  15. Vladimir
    Vladimir April 9 2020 09: 04 New
    0
    Yes, God, what is the argument? Let the state pay what it can, and then we respect the veterans, just congratulate, talk, pay attention, give flowers. This will be more important for them than banknotes. I always respect them deeply.
  16. Looking for
    Looking for April 9 2020 15: 19 New
    -1
    ВКЛЮЧИТЕ МОЗГИ.ПАТРИОТЫ.Последний год призыва в армию в 1945 году были юноши 27 года рождения!!!.В 2020 году им по. 93 !!!!!!! года(много ли вы видели людей доживающих до этого возраста и какое их состояние).поэтому 80-90 летних "ветеранов" можно смело притягивать за мошенничество-.а то идет такая вся увешанная юбилейными медальками и еще и требует уважения.