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How three companies of paratroopers can help withstand the coronavirus: in Kazakhstan they know ...

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Paratroopers of the Armed Forces of Kazakhstan from the Taldykorgan and Kapshagai garrisons are sent to Nur-Sultan and Uralsk. The task of these three hundred military personnel will be the implementation of security measures in the fight against the coronavirus pandemic.


It is reported by Tengrinews.

According to the press service of the Almaty garrison, the military will serve at checkpoints, along with police officers to monitor the rule of law and ensure public safety. In addition, the paratroopers will be engaged in sanitation.

To accomplish these tasks, the command of the airborne assault troops selected soldiers who possess the necessary moral and psychological qualities. They all know what actions to take in various emergencies.

The deputy commander of the air assault forces, Vladimir Kan, was sent to Uralsk at the head of a detachment of 150 paratroopers, which in the week since arriving in the city, the military disinfected half of the city territory.
In addition, the commando paratroopers are on duty at 11 checkpoints in shifts around the clock.

In Nur-Sultan, air assault troops assist law enforcement officers in patrolling the Almaty district of the capital by conducting rounds of the city on a two-shift schedule. Since their appearance in the city, they have explained the rules of conduct to two thousand violators.
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  1. Baloo
    Baloo April 8 2020 15: 36 New
    +1
    it wasn’t necessary to let in an amoral biolaboratory on its territory. fool
    1. NF68
      NF68 April 8 2020 15: 56 New
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      Quote: Balu
      it wasn’t necessary to let in an amoral biolaboratory on its territory. fool


      The Americans, without asking permission, will get in where they need to and they will slander without anyone’s consent.
    2. Mastodon
      Mastodon April 8 2020 15: 57 New
      -7
      Quote: Balu
      it wasn’t necessary to let in an amoral biolaboratory on its territory. fool

      And now ponte pound .. hi There are already examples of infection of the entire Kazakh wedding .. There China is nearby, etc.

      Since their appearance in the city, they have explained the rules of conduct to two thousand violators.

      How did you fix it interesting? As if to us in Russia did not run to relatives .. hi
    3. gloomy fox
      gloomy fox April 8 2020 16: 40 New
      +4
      and in Spain, too, the virus is rampant, so what? so there seems to be no Yankee laboratory.
    4. Air force
      Air force April 8 2020 17: 13 New
      +8
      I'm certainly against America's lab, but! Tourists brought COVID, all rushed to the resorts on March 8. The paratroopers are needed to maintain order in the city and to help at roadblocks; Kazakhstan introduced an emergency from March 16. The algorithm is simple if in a city more than 5 infected quarantine is introduced, entry and exit is limited. Thus, the fight against the virus is preempted. Therefore, many quarantined cities, so the military is connected, the normal situation. Adequate measures are applied, for example, mandatory wearing of masks for everyone, entry to the store without a mask is prohibited, no more than two masked passengers in a taxi, entry to the bus without a mask is also forbidden, Masks should be worn by everyone since if an asymptomatic person wears a mask, the risk of infection surrounding. Also after 22:00 it is forbidden to hang out on the street not only on foot but also in your own car. In May, self-made COVID tests will be certified. At the moment, there are 709 infections, 54 people have recovered, fatal 7, 6 old age, 1 with chronic diseases. There is no panic, I think everything will work out, we will break through.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 April 8 2020 17: 21 New
        0
        Paratroopers are needed to maintain order in the city and to help at roadblocks

        Usually in all countries this is done by the National Guard.
        And the paratroopers do not need this topic from any side. hi
        1. Vadim02rus
          Vadim02rus April 8 2020 17: 37 New
          +3
          Quote: Alex777
          Paratroopers are needed to maintain order in the city and to help at roadblocks

          Usually in all countries this is done by the National Guard.
          And the paratroopers do not need this topic from any side. hi

          Lancers walk the streets in threes with one police officer.
        2. Air force
          Air force April 8 2020 17: 53 New
          +3
          So this is what the National Guard and the police are doing, I’m saying that almost the whole Republic is in quarantine, and not just two cities and roadblocks around the perimeters of the cities, just additional help will not hurt. You can imagine quarantining almost all the major cities of the country. The National Guard is not enough for such purposes. Quarantine is not for a beautiful word, but to really really close the city. PS in Kazakhstan there are only 18 million people, the National Guard is not so large in number. hi
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 April 9 2020 10: 27 New
            0
            So this is what the National Guard and the police do.

            Clear. 150 National Guard was not enough. hi
        3. 32363
          32363 April 8 2020 19: 30 New
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          Quote: Alex777
          Paratroopers are needed to maintain order in the city and to help at roadblocks

          Usually in all countries this is done by the National Guard.
          And the paratroopers do not need this topic from any side. hi

          in 93rd, the forces of the consolidated company 35 dshb brought order to Baikonur.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 April 9 2020 10: 26 New
            0
            Was there an epidemic in Baikonur? bully
            1. 32363
              32363 April 9 2020 12: 43 New
              0
              Quote: Alex777
              Was there an epidemic in Baikonur? bully

              you can say so
      2. Baloo
        Baloo April 8 2020 17: 23 New
        -4
        Quote: Air Force
        I'm certainly against America lab

        I meant that this nasty lab laboratory was doing the crown and bats.
        1. Air force
          Air force April 8 2020 17: 45 New
          +5
          I admit this, but at the moment, it turns out that they have dealt the main blow to their allies and themselves. Therefore, it is difficult to believe that the Amer laboratory in Almaty is to blame. But I want to emphasize that I am certainly against Amer’s laboratories in the CIS countries, because if they really decide to use biological weapons, they will be hit with a not-so-deadly virus like COVID.
    5. Arslan Ali
      Arslan Ali April 8 2020 17: 37 New
      0
      Covid 19 is not ours and not from us.
  2. Lamata
    Lamata April 8 2020 15: 38 New
    +6
    I am reporting that it is calm in Almaty, there are patrols, but there is no trash. Magazines work, there is something to eat, there is a problem with cash
    1. Vadim02rus
      Vadim02rus April 8 2020 15: 43 New
      +5
      Nur-Sultan - similarly.
      1. Lamata
        Lamata April 8 2020 15: 52 New
        +1
        Keep drinks
      2. Lamata
        Lamata April 8 2020 15: 53 New
        +1
        For the first time, Senya, he saw a coin of 200 tenge. It is credited, but the terminal does not accept it yet.
        1. Humpty
          Humpty April 8 2020 16: 37 New
          -1
          [quote = Lamata] It is valid, but the terminal does not accept it yet.

          It’s good of course, people will exercise at least something useful, and at the same time they will train.
          I don’t know how in Almaty, but what I had to use in Kokchedyr is not considered a terminal by people, it is considered a parasite in law, as is cellular communication. And our transport does not go at all, it was not the puzogrei tourists who brought us infection, but the religious fanatics from the Hajj.

          [quote = NF68] Americans, without asking permission, will get into where they need it and they will slander without anyone’s consent.
          [/ Quote]
          I think that el / bashi himself asked, he really wanted to have access to weapons of mass destruction, he wanted to keep Soviet nuclear weapons, but the striped brace said no way. Now the Pentagon's baklaboratory is a matter of national pride for the racially loyal Kazakhstanis. According to rumors, not only in the former Verny, but also in the location of the former "ambush regiment" of the Panfilov division, somewhere near Gvardeysk, there is also a mattress tank laboratory. At the same time, let's see how the Kazakh or Armenian allies develop a vaccine, they are great now.
          1. Vadim02rus
            Vadim02rus April 8 2020 17: 34 New
            0
            "The Republican State Enterprise" National Center for Biotechnology "of the Science Committee of the Ministry of Education and Science of the Republic of Kazakhstan is the leading biological scientific center of the country that implements the state policy of support and development of the biotechnological industry - was established by the Decree of the President of the Republic of Kazakhstan in 1993"
            In Nur-Sultan on Kurgalzhinka.
            1. Lamata
              Lamata April 8 2020 21: 22 New
              0
              Stepnogorsk, do you know such a city?
            2. Polymer
              Polymer April 9 2020 05: 29 New
              +2
              With these laboratories, it’s still not clear. After all, it is already known that five years ago such a development of events with this coronavirus was supposed. It turns out that for five years nothing has been done - neither a vaccine, nor an effective medicine. Well, the lead didn’t work, but there are high-class specialists, super-duper equipment - and what, having all this, could not develop an effective means of combating the epidemic in a couple of weeks? Then what are they doing there and why are they needed at all? A natural question, right?
              I’m talking not only about Kazakhstan, but in general about this whole system of laboratories around the world.
          2. Lamata
            Lamata April 8 2020 17: 37 New
            0
            What is rumored to be there, well, not near Gvardeysk, and then, about 50 km away, in the hills.
            1. Humpty
              Humpty April 8 2020 17: 55 New
              -1
              Quote: Lamata
              Well, not near Gvardeysk, and then, so 50 km, in the hills.

              Not all the same, I know the roads there, but only 5, I use two, because I don’t know exactly where. But two of these 5 roads did not go for 10 years.
              1. Lamata
                Lamata April 8 2020 17: 57 New
                0
                Yes, I don’t even know how to explain, but it was, southeast of guards, km 50,
                1. Humpty
                  Humpty April 8 2020 18: 02 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Lamata
                  , southeast of guards, km 50,

                  About a little understandably. Right on our border? Stumble. There, by the way, is that viper. Under the Union, all serpents from Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan from the serpentarium were taken there free of laziness, so as not to drag them to their homeland.
                  1. Lamata
                    Lamata April 8 2020 21: 33 New
                    -1
                    And it was I who led you astray, I looked from Otar, in the same place, mountain ranges, you yourself know how they are going. From Gvardeysk, towards the east, but with a slope to the south
          3. Arslan Ali
            Arslan Ali April 8 2020 18: 01 New
            +1
            Soviet nuclear
            I wanted to keep the weapons, but the striped brad said no way. 
            Therefore, the Russian Federation was transferred. So what?
            1. Humpty
              Humpty April 8 2020 18: 04 New
              -1
              Quote: Arslan Ali
              Therefore, the Russian Federation was transferred. So what?

              Ага.
          4. Lamata
            Lamata April 8 2020 22: 31 New
            -1
            Dear, do not offend the city where you were
      3. 32363
        32363 April 8 2020 19: 27 New
        0
        from which region is it, Tselinograd or a visitor?
        1. Vadim02rus
          Vadim02rus April 8 2020 19: 46 New
          0
          Since "Youth", 9 years old here. The native wife is Tselinogradskaya.
          1. Lamata
            Lamata April 8 2020 22: 33 New
            0
            And I lived for 3 years near the Puchi. Hello and good health to Astana !!!!
          2. 32363
            32363 April 9 2020 09: 31 New
            0
            Quote: Vadim02rus
            Since "Youth", 9 years old here. The native wife is Tselinogradskaya.

            it’s clear, I’m the Tselinograd spill))), the region of Orbit, but 20 years in Germany.
            1. Vadim02rus
              Vadim02rus April 9 2020 09: 40 New
              0
              The world is small))
    2. Polymer
      Polymer April 9 2020 05: 19 New
      0
      Quote: Lamata
      I am reporting calmly in Alma-Ata

      In Karaganda for several days it was so calm, as if the city had died out. Now all the certificates have been received from the places of work - a little revived, the movement appeared.
  3. AB
    AB April 8 2020 15: 41 New
    0
    How three companies of paratroopers can help withstand coronavirus

    Three companies of paratroopers can block Moscow, if you give permission to open warning fire ...
    1. Naughty
      Naughty April 8 2020 17: 32 New
      -2
      Quote: AB
      How three companies of paratroopers can help withstand coronavirus

      Three companies of paratroopers can block Moscow, if you give permission to open warning fire ...


      Kazakh paratroopers? laughing Yes, they don’t speak Russian now. How can they get to Moscow? laughing
      1. Lamata
        Lamata April 8 2020 17: 40 New
        +3
        You’re talking in vain.
  4. Lamata
    Lamata April 8 2020 15: 44 New
    +2
    Transport runs, the people are almost all masked, there is no tension, well, except for wild claims.
  5. Cowbra
    Cowbra April 8 2020 16: 03 New
    -3
    In our country, Svarogs would have already pushed Klava to the basement, explaining that "the backward authorities have filled up the country with corpses, therefore they are preparing for war with their own citizens !!!" They are about just performing there now rinsing from all the holes laughing
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. April 8 2020 17: 34 New
      -3
      It is interesting to hear what these Svarogs will say if Russia emerges from the epidemic by spoiling the skin a little? Wangyu: the virus itself is gone, our people have immunity to it, which was not a virus.
      But God forbid there will be mass casualties. Guess one time: who will be to blame?
    2. Lamata
      Lamata April 8 2020 19: 12 New
      0
      Really, but where is Svarog! Has something happened?
  6. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft April 8 2020 16: 18 New
    +1
    Does the RK Armed Forces have no RHBZ units or are pandemic riots expected?
    1. Vasya Zyuzkin
      Vasya Zyuzkin April 8 2020 16: 39 New
      0
      What should they do? Patrol? Or watering entrances from the ARS? What do they do there? Are there corpses on the sidelines that need to be decontaminated and disposed of? And it’s necessary to ensure that order doesn’t get into the stupid heads of stupidity!
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft April 8 2020 17: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: Vasya Zyuzkin
        order to ensure that no stupidities get into the bad heads!

        Order in the country is ensured by punitive bodies (eg: "vovany"), not by the Armed Forces ... but oh well ...
        Are there corpses on the sidelines that need to be decontaminated and disposed of?

        There are none of these in Italy and Serbia, however, they sent specialists from the Russian Chemical Plant and military virologists there ...
        Do not read periodicals and news, do not look, or what?
      2. Lamata
        Lamata April 8 2020 17: 38 New
        +3
        By the way, the entrances than this process.
    2. Talgat 148
      Talgat 148 April 8 2020 18: 44 New
      +1
      All that is involved in the disinfection of public facilities. ARSs just on the basis of KAMAZ, some new ones ...
    3. odometer
      odometer April 8 2020 19: 31 New
      -1
      Are supposed wink
  7. knn54
    knn54 April 8 2020 16: 50 New
    +1
    I remembered "Nobody but us".
  8. Arslan Ali
    Arslan Ali April 8 2020 17: 40 New
    0
    [quote] [/ quote] And now show-offs are pounding .. There are already examples of infection of the entire Kazakh wedding .. There is China nearby, etc.
    Look at the statistics of infected and deaths.
  9. Arslan Ali
    Arslan Ali April 8 2020 17: 44 New
    +1
    Does the RK Armed Forces have no RHBZ units or are pandemic riots expected?

    Everything is calm with us, no need to croak. Every Monday and Thursday disinfection is carried out in the entrances and courtyards.
  10. Arslan Ali
    Arslan Ali April 8 2020 17: 48 New
    +1
    There are none of these in Italy and Serbia, however, they sent specialists from the Russian Chemical Plant and military virologists there ...

    Their situation is more serious. Do not read the news?
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft April 8 2020 20: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Arslan Ali
      There are none of these in Italy and Serbia, however, they sent specialists from the Russian Chemical Plant and military virologists there ...

      Their situation is more serious. Do not read the news?

      Therefore, they sent there
      RCHBZ specialists and military virologists ...
  11. Arslan Ali
    Arslan Ali April 8 2020 17: 53 New
    0
    Order in the country is ensured by punitive bodies (eg: "vovany"), not by the Armed Forces ... but oh well ...

    And in 91, in 93. in Moscow. The Vovans fired at the White House from tanks.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft April 8 2020 20: 15 New
      0
      Quote: Arslan Ali
      And in 91, in 93. in Moscow. The Vovans fired at the White House from tanks.

      When tanks are fired at the NBF, it’s already a mess and you have to fight it, at that moment already by the forces of the RF Armed Forces, but then BB found work too, don’t worry ...
  12. frizzy
    frizzy April 8 2020 18: 49 New
    +1
    We Kazakhs do not have paratroopers, but there are airmobile dealers. So-called airmobile troops or units. All the boys are tall 185-195. Livchiki stuffed but without cartoons.
    1. Lexeich
      Lexeich April 8 2020 19: 18 New
      +2
      I have a good friend in Kapchagai who serves in the landing. All of them Health, Good Luck and All the Best!
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft April 8 2020 20: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: frizzy
      У us Kazakhs there are no paratroopers, but there are air car makers. So-called airborne troops or units.

      By no means. belay
      In 2015, at the military council, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief Nursultan Nazarbayev proposed renaming the Airborne Forces. He understood and agreed that neither the soldiers nor officers liked the existing name, ”says Almaz Dzhumakeev. - Today it would be incorrect to compare us even with the Airborne Forces of Russia. Their Airborne Forces and our Airborne Forces are a big difference, and we would still always be in second place. First of all, because they have more equipment and people, we have less. And the president said: "Name yourself so that you stand in one cell, but so that the abbreviation of the landing troops remains." At that time, Minister of Defense Imangali Tasmagambetov proposed replacing the word “air” with “assault”. After all, we have assault brigades. And he proposed to name the air assault troops. So the abbreviation of the paratroopers returned. This year, by order of the Minister of Defense, we have completely renamed. There are several brigades in our composition, both air assault, assault, and artillery assault. There are regiments of combat and rear support. Today we are the kind of troops that can independently carry out any tasks set by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the Ministry of Defense.

      http://np.kz/last/22017-vozvraschenie-v-desanturu.html
      1. Polymer
        Polymer April 9 2020 04: 05 New
        +1
        Travel in a vicious circle. This unit in the 90s in Kapchagai was called the Air Assault Brigade (DSB).
  13. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav April 8 2020 22: 00 New
    -3
    adequate people explain to me how the cities of Uralsk, Guryev, the mouth of the Russian river, the Urals, the native Russian came to some steppe nomads who never had not only statehood but also the alphabet
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft April 9 2020 03: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Ryaruav
      explain to me how the cities of Uralsk, Guryev, the mouth of the Russian river, the Urals, originally Russian came to some steppe nomads who never had not only statehood but also the alphabet

      .... the same thing can be said about almost the entire territory of Ukraine, some part of the Baltic states, three districts of Chechnya transferred from Stavropol, etc. and all this was given without a single shot, voluntarily, and most importantly, together with the Russian population inhabiting these lands ....
      Is it worth it to be offended that now the descendants of these Russian people, who together with the earth, as a thing have been separated from its homeland, hate it ....
    2. 32363
      32363 April 9 2020 09: 35 New
      -1
      Quote: Ryaruav
      adequate people explain to me how the cities of Uralsk, Guryev, the mouth of the Russian river, the Urals, the native Russian came to some steppe nomads who never had not only statehood but also the alphabet

      everyone asked this question when the Kazakhs fell ill in the 90s by renaming first the streets, and then by renaming the cities themselves.
      and here there is something to think about
      1. Talgat 148
        Talgat 148 April 9 2020 13: 55 New
        -2
        Got sick.
        And it would be nishtyak if everything remained non-Kazakh in Kazakhstan, yes !?
        In your Germany it’s not German, in Georgia it’s not Georgian.
        As you already got well left and remember with a kind word.
        Finally give us the Kazakhs to live as we all want to Kazakhstanis!
        Everywhere they speak Russian and Kazakh, all the inscriptions are in two languages, but in general Russian prevails. Do not know Russian will not advance through the ranks. Streets of Pushkin, Gagarin, Herzen, Gogol, Ostrovsky, Moscow, Orenburg, Kosmedemyanskaya, Korolev, Business center in Astana Moscow, St. Petersburg, hotel Berlin, I am silent about restaurants and cafes. Can we Kazakhs in our city of Guryev in Kazakhstan re-name !? Shevchenko !? Kokchetav in Kokshetau as it should be. But we will leave Pavlodar and Petropavlovsk we will leave, they were and remain so.
        Can!???????
        1. 32363
          32363 April 9 2020 14: 14 New
          -1
          Quote: Talgat 148
          Got sick.
          And it would be nishtyak if everything remained non-Kazakh in Kazakhstan, yes !?
          In your Germany it’s not German, in Georgia it’s not Georgian.
          As you already got well left and remember with a kind word.
          Finally give us the Kazakhs to live as we all want to Kazakhstanis!
          Everywhere they speak Russian and Kazakh, all the inscriptions are in two languages, but in general Russian prevails. Do not know Russian will not advance through the ranks. Streets of Pushkin, Gagarin, Herzen, Gogol, Ostrovsky, Moscow, Orenburg, Kosmedemyanskaya, Korolev, Business center in Astana Moscow, St. Petersburg, hotel Berlin, I am silent about restaurants and cafes. Can we Kazakhs in our city of Guryev in Kazakhstan re-name !? Shevchenko !? Kokchetav in Kokshetau as it should be. But we will leave Pavlodar and Petropavlovsk we will leave, they were and remain so.
          Can!???????

          But is it nothing that the same Akmolinsk (Tselinograd) and most of the cities on the modern territory of the Republic of Kazakhstan were formed during the time of the Russian Empire by Cossacks and were outposts of the Republic of Ingushetia, and did the Kazakhs lead a purely nomadic way of life at that time?
          1. Talgat 148
            Talgat 148 April 9 2020 14: 29 New
            -2
            Nothing!
            So it would be, cities, outposts, obscure Cossacks, which are no longer there, the USSR itself did not collapse.
            And we are Kazakhs (and we call ourselves Cossacks, and we were Cossacks in Russian until Stalin changed the letter in the 30s) would disappear. Would die out. They began to forget the language, culture, life.
            So the Most High ordered it fairly.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft April 9 2020 21: 33 New
              0
              Quote: Talgat 148
              And we are Kazakhs (and we call ourselves Cossacks, and in the Russian language we were Cossacks until the 30s Stalin did not change the letter) would disappear.

              Tell this bike to the Chinese and the jaguars who drove you across the steppe ... until the Russians harnessed for you and the Kyrgyz, they will laugh in a voice ...
        2. 32363
          32363 April 9 2020 14: 27 New
          0
          Quote: Talgat 148
          Kokchetav in Kokshetau as it should be.

          just for the sake of justice, I advise you to read, and the fact that the Kokshetau hills were called there does not mean that the city bore the name at the base.
          1. Talgat 148
            Talgat 148 April 9 2020 14: 45 New
            -2
            Migrants, keyword! What else will you send me !?
            Colonization.
            Imantavsky renamed Imantau!
            1. 32363
              32363 April 9 2020 14: 48 New
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              Quote: Talgat 148
              Migrants, keyword! What else will you send me !?

              don’t you turn on the fool, did everything happen within the borders of the Russian Empire or do you have a different version? Kazakhs that from Almaty and the south of the Republic of Kazakhstan 20 years ago, immigrants also came to Astana.
              1. Talgat 148
                Talgat 148 April 9 2020 15: 16 New
                -2
                This is you turn off the fool!
                Kazakhstan is a free country!
                In the 17-18 centuries, the Kazak Khanate allegedly voluntarily became part of the Russian Empire, and then the imperialists began to move en masse to our lands, build cities, expel local residents from fertile lands. Not this way!????
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft April 9 2020 21: 35 New
                  0
                  Quote: Talgat 148
                  In the 17-18 centuries, the Kazak Khanate allegedly voluntarily became part of the Russian Empire

                  In which composition? How is Ukraine from Lviv to Lugansk?
    3. Talgat 148
      Talgat 148 April 9 2020 13: 12 New
      -2
      Is there evidence !? Originality !?
      Orenburg!
      Alaska !?
      Omsk !?
      Tyumen !?
      Kazan !?
      Crimea ?!
      Kaliningrad !?
      Astrakhan !?
      Grozny ?!
      Surgut !?
      Magadan ?!
      Uralsk !?
      Guryev !?
      Forgot more about Pavlodar, Ust-Kamenogorsk, Petropavlovsk !?
      And also Almaty !?
      Everything is also primordial! ????
      That is probably primordially Moscow, Ryazan, Novgorod, aaaaa Kiev! ???? And Minsk! ???? And Tallinn, Warsaw, Helsinki and this is also the former Russian Empire ....

      Yeltsin and your ancestors profiled your artifacts in 1991, and Asians and some nomads from the USSR voted for the USSR!
      So now forget forever about the lands of some nomads !!!!!
      And as for writing, you are wrong to read at your leisure, about the great steppe, about the Sak tribes, about the Scythians, about the Kypchaks, about the Golden Horde !!!!
      And do not express yourself like that anymore, respectable neighbors read you! Neighbors whose grandfathers (some nomads) died near Moscow and Stalingrad, like my grandfather, for example, was wounded in Stalingrad! Blood shed for being called some .....
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft April 9 2020 21: 55 New
        0
        Quote: Talgat 148
        Sincerity your profiled Yeltsin

        The time to collect stones has come, residents of the Crimea will confirm this ...
        So now forget forever about the lands of some nomads !!!!!

        You shouldn't be so .... young man ... many nomadic peoples live in the open spaces of the modern Russian Federation and they are much older than the "Kazakhs" ...
        The military-political leadership of many CIS countries and not only understands that the gifts of non-good senior comrades (Germans and Bolsheviks (in the Russian minority)) at the helm of RI and the USSR will have to be returned to its owner and you won’t do anything, only you can delay ....
        Modern Kazakhstan was formed thanks to the USSR, but it exists within its borders only thanks to the modern Russian Federation, so Kazakhstan (its territory) will either become part of the Russian Federation or shrink within its borders and again the Chinese and jaguars will appear on the "original" steppes of the "Kazakhs" ...
        And in your writing there will be not Cyrillic and not Latin, but hieroglyphs ...
        And as for writing, you are wrong to read at your leisure, about the great steppe, about the Sak tribes, about the Scythians, about the Kypchaks, about the Golden Horde !!!!

        What relation do "Kazakhs" have to these peoples?
        whose grandfathers (of some nomads) died near Moscow and Stalingrad, as my grandfather, for example, was wounded in Stalingrad! Blood shed for being called some .....

        I apologize for this for him, here you are right, the Great Patriotic War is the only thing that binds (blood) the former republics of the USSR .... but years go by and the youth of both countries forget about it, she looks, unlike her fathers and grandfathers, not on political slogans their neighbors, but on business ...
        Yes, if they started to measure, then post-war Kazakhstan developed and mastered the entire Soviet people .... more often, for example, to the detriment of the development of the same RSFSR ...
        1. Talgat 148
          Talgat 148 April 10 2020 14: 28 New
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          Modern Kazakhstan was formed thanks to the USSR, but it exists within its borders only thanks to the modern Russian Federation, so Kazakhstan (its territory) will either become part of the Russian Federation or shrink within its borders and again the Chinese and jaguars will appear on the "original" steppes of the "Kazakhs" ...
          And in your writing there will be not Cyrillic and not Latin, but hieroglyphs ...


          Nobody will ever appear on our earth anymore !!!!
          In our era at least!
          And we will never become part of those more than the Russian Federation. Your predatory potential on this and ended in the Crimea. Even Donetsk and Lugansk are too tough for you.
          Look do not choke on your bile, look and envy how Kazakhstan lives and flourishes !!!! 9 territory in the world!))))
          And do not try to compete in eloquence here, we are not with you forever!))))) And not with the Chinese, we are for world peace !!!!!!
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft April 10 2020 18: 11 New
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            Quote: Talgat 148
            Nobody will ever appear on our earth anymore !!!!

            You are not able to protect it and this is a fact, next to you are the multimillion-dollar RF and Uzbekistan, as well as the billionth of China ...
            In our era at least!

            About exactly Your era nobody argues .....
            And never we will not whose part those more than the Russian Federation.

            You and do not need the Russian Federation, I talked about the territory ....
            Your predatory potential on this and ended in the Crimea. Even Donetsk and Lugansk are too tough for you.

            Why predatory? Crimea was conquered and conquered by Russia, when there was no mention of either Kazakhstan or Ukraine .... Donetsk and Lugansk were built under the Republic of Ingushetia, and not under modern Ukraine and the Ukrainian SSR ...
            I said the Russian Federation doesn’t need someone else’s, it will only return what was previously lost, how much is needed for this time ....
            Look do not choke on your bile, look and envy how Kazakhstan lives and flourishes !!!! 9 territory in the world!))))

            I have nothing against Kazakhstan, the Russian Federation is beneficial for it to be a flourishing state, and not a "404" territory, like Ukraine .... the richer Kazakhstan is, the more it can buy goods and services from the Russian Federation ....
            And do not try to compete in eloquence here, we are not with you forever!)))))

            Who are we? From the entire multinational people of Kazakhstan decided to speak out?
            Themselves abruptly switched to the "national card" on the forum, no one pulled your hand ....
  14. frizzy
    frizzy April 9 2020 10: 21 New
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    We just watered the Kazakhs, led by Nazarbayev EBN, and he waved the paper. I well remember that episode of the collapse of the USSR.
  15. Arslan Ali
    Arslan Ali April 9 2020 17: 29 New
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    Quote: Ryaruav
    adequate people explain to me how the cities of Uralsk, Guryev, the mouth of the Russian river, the Urals, originally Russian came to some steppe nomads who never had not only statehood but also the alphabet [quote] [/ quote]
    Look at the ancient maps, Greek, Persian, Chinese sources. The vast territory was called the Kipchak steppe, its western part is the Polovtsian steppe, even before the Mongol-Tatars and look at what territory Ancient Rus occupies (7-9 principalities). Neither Siberia nor the Caucasus. The southern part of the Russian Federation on those Desht and Kipchak maps. I'm not talking about the times of the Golden Horde. In the army of Batu Khan there were only about 2000 indigenous Mongols. Kipchak steppe and most of the Golden Horde, it is modern Kazakhstan. And these cities on whose territory they built, whose natural resources were used. Cossacks-border troops who developed new territories.
    1. 32363
      32363 April 9 2020 19: 10 New
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      Quote: Arslan Ali
      Quote: Ryaruav
      adequate people explain to me how the cities of Uralsk, Guryev, the mouth of the Russian river, the Urals, the native Russian came to some steppe nomads who never had not only statehood but also the alphabet

      Look at the ancient maps, Greek, Persian, Chinese sources. The vast territory was called the Kipchak steppe, its western part is the Polovtsian steppe, even before the Mongol-Tatars and look at what territory Ancient Rus occupies (7-9 principalities). Neither Siberia nor the Caucasus. The southern part of the Russian Federation on those Desht and Kipchak maps. I'm not talking about the times of the Golden Horde. In the army of Batu Khan there were only about 2000 indigenous Mongols. Kipchak steppe and most of the Golden Horde, it is modern Kazakhstan. And these cities on whose territory they built, whose natural resources were used. Cossacks-border troops who developed new territories.

      and what happened to you such great ones that some Cossacks were inept first squeezed the land and then there they built cities and taught you to cultivate fields?
      1. Talgat 148
        Talgat 148 April 9 2020 21: 36 New
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        In the past, history has brought us severe trials.
        And unskillful ones are those who profiled the USSR!
        And cities were built and fields were cultivated in Kazakhstan - the Soviet people, i.e. International!
        You don’t only have to build an old song to sing, and you are all dissatisfied, were we sitting idly by !? Together with the peoples of the USSR, we built nuclear power plants, railways, BAM, DneproGES hand in hand, mastered virgin lands and Siberia!
        More claims !?
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft April 9 2020 22: 02 New
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      Quote: Arslan Ali
      Look at the ancient maps, Greek, Persian, Chinese sources. The vast territory was called the Kipchak steppe, its western part is the Polovtsian steppe, even before the Mongol-Tatars and look at what territory Ancient Rus occupies (7-9 principalities). Neither Siberia nor the Caucasus. The southern part of the Russian Federation on those Desht and Kipchak maps. I'm not talking about the times of the Golden Horde. In the army of Batu Khan there were only about 2000 indigenous Mongols. Kipchak steppe and most of the Golden Horde, it is modern Kazakhstan. And these cities on whose territory they built, whose natural resources were used. Cossacks-border troops who developed new territories.

      What place did leprosy occupy in these territories?
      You do not try to make the Kazakhs an ancient people who crawled out of the Caspian in the form of mammals ....
      Everyone knows that the ancient "Sumerians" are much older than you, and the Black Sea, which they dug many times deeper and wider than the Caspian ...
      1. Talgat 148
        Talgat 148 April 10 2020 14: 12 New
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        The depths of our history are enough to prove whose lands we have, neither burdened Cossacks nor immigrants !!!
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft April 10 2020 17: 55 New
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          Quote: Talgat 148
          The depths of our history are enough to prove whose lands we have, neither burdened Cossacks nor immigrants !!!

          The Russians alone have the largest land territory on planet earth, and all those who tried to challenge the right of the Russians to possess, and before that, they lost to them ....
          1. Talgat 148
            Talgat 148 April 10 2020 21: 24 New
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            I am happy for the Russians. And for their lands, too, I’m glad, and for Kazakhstan I’m glad, we show off on a globe in the center of the world! A huge country, the 9th in the world, as I said, independent and too tough for anyone! Who the hell will touch! As someone said, Russia on the map without Kazakstan became like a skinny cow!))))

            In the course the center of Eurasia and peace is located in East Kazakhstan! ??

            But are you not a fellow countryman by chance Lara Croft, constantly Cossacks hail here !? Oh, and you do not love us, but you live here, I feel how well informed about life in Kazakhstan!)))
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft April 10 2020 22: 16 New
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              Quote: Talgat 148
              no one can do it! Who the hell will touch!

              She's like "elusive Joe ....", but it won't last forever ... and until what moment and who will not touch you know ....
              As someone said, Russia on the map without Kazakstan became like a skinny cow!))))

              It was your fellow countryman from the market or an Uzbek who decided to please your pride and contribute his "5 kopecks to the friendship of peoples" ...
              In the course the center of Eurasia and peace is located in East Kazakhstan! ??

              The center of what it is, I will not say, will block ....
              constantly Cossacks hai here !?

              Constantly? It is when? Can be more? But I know your nickname, only he was without numbers ...
              Farewell, the dialogue with you is not interesting to me and smacks of provocation on your part ...
              1. Talgat 148
                Talgat 148 April 11 2020 06: 43 New
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                A set of chatter, scared, because you know the truth is not on your side!))))
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft April 11 2020 17: 38 New
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                  Quote: Talgat 148
                  Jabber set,

                  And you there too ...
                  because you know the truth is not on your side!

                  True Russia is time-tested ....
                  1. Talgat 148
                    Talgat 148 April 11 2020 20: 38 New
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                    Yes Yes. The only truth is that your gut is thin!)))
                    1. Lara Croft
                      Lara Croft April 11 2020 20: 46 New
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                      Quote: Talgat 148
                      The only truth is that your gut is thin!)))

                      And you check .... ts. accelerate the events described by me ...
        2. 32363
          32363 April 10 2020 20: 52 New
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          Quote: Talgat 148
          The depths of our history are enough to prove whose lands we have, neither burdened Cossacks nor immigrants !!!

          yes you are northern Kyrgyzstan and here is the evidence.
          https://radikal.ru/lfp/b.radikal.ru/b29/2004/85/fb7efe171e15.jpg/htm

          1. Talgat 148
            Talgat 148 April 10 2020 21: 23 New
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            Proof of!?
            Germans and Germans there is a difference !?
            Let me prove to you having dropped some link that the Germans are Saxons !? And also northern !?)))))
            Do not torment the ass, we still have been and will be! What do you want here, write at least .... here!))))))))
            A cho number took the 35th Guards !?
            1. 32363
              32363 April 10 2020 21: 27 New
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              Quote: Talgat 148
              Proof of!?
              Germans and Germans there is a difference !?
              Let me prove to you by dropping some link that the Germans are Saxons!

              and come on, interested.
              A cho number took the 35th Guards !?

              and religion doesn’t allow you to move the gyrus?
              1. Talgat 148
                Talgat 148 April 11 2020 05: 42 New
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                Talk normally, I’m moving better than Natsik!
                I don’t understand you at all, it’s brazen in the face of my fellow countrymen to say that you are nobody, you weren’t, you were called differently, you didn’t know anything, we taught you everything, we built everything for you! Vile you types however, Natsik!
                Anyway, the hunchback grave will be corrected, the younger generation is not like you! (Here is an example of the friendship of peoples in the days of the USSR, all the Russian-speaking people from the union do not perceive other nations, they hate better say those Ukrainians, those lumps, those bulbashs, those hachi, etc.)

                In what years did he serve?
                Barmalea caught?
                I served on the second line in the same form, if until 1997 you were there you know.
                It is a pity the roads did not cross before, although you openly did not speak badly about the Republic of Kazakhstan and its inhabitants.
                1. 32363
                  32363 April 11 2020 17: 50 New
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                  Quote: Talgat 148
                  I served on the second line in the same form, if until 1997 you were there you know.

                  served 92-93, of course I know the second line.
                  about Natsik, it means you can indicate what and how, and when we say something in your address, so immediately Natsyk? although you are not far from the truth, I am not shy that the German is proud of it, you can write me in Natsik I do not care.