The Swedes responded to Trump's words about "Sweden, suffering from a coronavirus"

Sweden has reacted negatively to Donald Trump's statement about the epidemic. During a press conference, the US president said that "Sweden is suffering very much from coronavirus."

Trump:

If we chose the Swedish strategy, then the situation in the States would be even worse. We would have received far more deaths than now.

In Sweden, in which they chose a strategy to abandon universal quarantine, introducing restrictions on leaving the house only for older people, commented on the words of Donald Trump.

It is noted that while in the USA the increase in the number of people with a new type of coronavirus detected per day was 3%, as well as the increase in deaths, in Sweden the indicators changed to a lesser extent. Ordinary Swedes in Trump's social networks advised "to pay more attention not to the situation in Sweden, but to the situation in the United States itself."

However, it should be noted that the percentage of deaths from COVID-19 in the United States is indeed less than in Sweden (3,21% versus 7,69%). For comparison: the mortality rate for a new type of coronavirus in our country is 0,82%.

Recall that Sweden remains one of the few countries in the world where visitors to public places are allowed: cafes, restaurants, museums, cinemas, and walks in the streets. Authorities prescribe people over 65 to stay at home, but, according to reports from Stockholm, Swedes of retirement age often appear on the streets of the city, ignoring the regulations.

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[Same lech]

In Sweden, 6078 cases of coronavirus have been reported. Now in the country more than 300 people have died from infection.
Strange behavior for the Swedes ... then they have a tantrum from the mythical Russian submarines ... and here there is such calm with 300 dead .

[user1212]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Strange behavior for the Swedes ... then they have a tantrum from the mythical Russian submarines ... and here there is such calm with 300 dead

It would be strange behavior if the search for Russian submarines were aimed at protecting their population. But the goal, apparently, was not that. As for the coronavirus, according to the wiki, without any media hype, around 17 million people a year get pneumonia worldwide, about 265 thousand cases are fatal

[aleks26]

Quote: user1212

As for the coronavirus, according to the wiki, without any media hype, around 17 million people a year get pneumonia worldwide, about 265 thousand cases are fatal

I don’t know how VIKI is there, but I didn’t hear something in the past years, in some country, from pneumonia died, every day, 700-1800 people. Statistics - a corrupt girl, a whore who pays, he dances.

[orionvitt]

Quote: aleks26

I didn’t hear something in the past years, in any country, from pneumonia died, every day, 700-1800 people

Just not interested. In past years, everyone didn't care.

Statistics - a corrupt girl, a whore who pays, he dances her

The main thing is at the right time and in the right place.

[Roman123567]

I haven’t heard that in past years, in some country from pneumonia died, daily, for 700-1800 people.

worldwide about 17 million people per year get pneumonia, about 265 thousand cases are fatal

December 14, 2017 NEWS GENEVA According to new estimates by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of the United States of America (CCH), the World Health Organization and global health partners, up to 650 people die every year from respiratory infections caused by seasonal flu .

Now 4 thousand people have died in 80 months .. the numbers are zapostovima ..
The hype is from scratch ..
Well, the fact that all deaths from whom HF was found is recorded in the statistics of deaths from HF - this also says a lot ..
And the Swedes are great .. they don’t need to distract their people from more real problems ..

[PilotS37]

Quote: Roman123567

Now 4 thousand people have died in 80 months .. the numbers are zapostovima ..
The hype is from scratch ..
Well, the fact that all deaths from whom HF was found is recorded in the statistics of deaths from HF - this also says a lot ..
And the Swedes are great .. they don’t need to distract their people from more real problems ..

In the world, about 10 million people die every month from all causes. And here in 4 months - 83 thousand ...
As for Sweden, it seems that they register as patients only "severe": their incidence is significantly lower than throughout Western Europe and the United States.

[den3080]

Quote: The same Lech

Strange behavior for the Swedes ... then they have a tantrum from the mythical Russian submarines ... and here there is such calm with 300 dead .

Descendants of the Vikings, direct connection to Valhalla and more :))
And Trump is an old man losing his memory and sound mind.

By the way (or not by the way). Why talk about one test for coronavirus?
Based on my long-standing knowledge of virology, I know there should be 2 tests! One is “qualitative” for antibodies and, in the presence of antibodies, they take a second “quantitative”, so-called PCR, showing the “concentration” of the virus in the blood ...
It surprises me, but there’s nobody to ask. Explain who knows, please:
1. why does everyone talk about 1 test, when there are 2 of them according to the standard?
2. PCR (second test) no one in the world has yet managed to do in 15 minutes, it usually takes 2-3 days.

[Uncle lee]

Right dog!

[Lipchanin]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Right dog!

I read somewhere
"If you want to take a walk, but there is no dog, find a leash and walk with it. If they ask why you don't stay at home, boldly say, looking for a dog, I ran away."

[PilotS37]

Artist: Andrey Popov

[Lipchanin]

Quote: den3080

And Trump is an old man losing his memory and sound mind.

Well, if he has already "privatized" both the Moon and space ...

[novel66]

while I was a businessman = - I was sane ... stab them with something there? Serge is great!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

stab them there with something?

It seems to have answered, the comment is gone
Power strikes like urine in the head

[AU Ivanov.]

The power of people is changing. Basically, not for the better. It seems like a nice person, but as he sat down in a chair, so everything turns into a bastard.

[Lelek]

Quote: novel xnumx

... stab them there with something?

Roman.
Believe it or not, they don't prick, but just an elementary "razvodilovo" at the expense of the budget (that is, at the expense of the little white and black plebs) according to the scheme, which is simpler than a cucumber - they sawed up and washed off:

[PSih2097]

Quote: novel xnumx

prick them there or something? Serge is great!

Well, the US army is going to fight in Latin America with drug courts, and in fact take control ...

[svp67]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

6078 registered in Sweden

As of yesterday, 7693 people

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Now in the country more than 300 people have died from infection.

Already 591 people ...

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Strange behavior for the Swedes ... then they have a tantrum from the mythical Russian submarines ... and here there is such calm with 300 dead

As their rulers said - the Swedes are disciplined people, they were given the command to think about promoting democracy in Russia, and now they are thinking about this

[Olgovich]

Quote: svp67

Quote: The same LYOKHA
6078 registered in Sweden

Yesterday already 7693 people

wow growth: -on ... 25%!

I think they’re not going anywhere from common measures: Anglo-Borka is an example .....

[svp67]

Quote: Olgovich

I think they’re not going anywhere from common measures: Anglo-Borka is an example .....

If by then they will have someone to go somewhere ..

[Olgovich]

Quote: svp67

If by then they will have someone to go somewhere ..

true: with such mass communication, there are much more infected than statistics show, and a high mortality rate indirectly testifies to this ....

[svp67]

Quote: Olgovich

this is indirectly evidenced by the percentage of mortality ....

To the point ... for many, the disease manifests itself in a mild and even unsystematic form.

[PilotS37]

Quote: Olgovich

Quote: svp67
Quote: The same LYOKHA
6078 registered in Sweden

As of yesterday, 7693 people

wow growth: -on ... 25%!

I think they’re not going anywhere from common measures: Anglo-Borka is an example .....

6 078 (more precisely - 6 131) - this is the data for April 3 ([media = https: //coronavirus-monitor.ru/coronavirus-v-shvecii/]), yesterday it was 7 693, and today it is already 8 419, but in Western Europe it is still one of the best indicators. And in terms of the frequency of deaths (per 10 population), Swedes in Europe are by no means the worst indicators, although Western Europe looks just depressing compared to the rest of the world ...

[Olgovich]

Quote: PilotS37

yesterday it was 7 693, and today it is already 8 419,

An increase of 10% per day — Italy, too — BEGINNED.

Like England, she, too, followed this path. Already turned from him to the usual for everyone.

Today she is predicted the biggest losses from the virus from European countries due to "late ignition"

[Lipchanin]

Quote: svp67

they were given the command to think about promoting democracy in Russia, and now they’re thinking about this

Aha. In public places they think better

[svp67]

Quote: Lipchanin

In public places they think better

But what, according to the good old Swedish tradition

[Lipchanin]

Quote: svp67

But what, according to the good old Swedish tradition

Well yes. And boats immediately seem, and the lack of democracy in another country

[PilotS37]

Quote: Lipchanin

Aha. In public places they think better

The Swedes are a very closed people, they are extremely reluctant to come into contact with strangers, and in the evenings they all flee to their homes (the sleeping areas of Stockholm "die out" every evening after 17:30 (well, this is by eye ...)).

[tihonmarine]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Strange behavior for the Swedes ... then they have a tantrum from the mythical Russian submarines ... and here there is such calm with 300 dead

Grandfather Peter the Great scared the Swedes very much that they are still afraid of the Russian fleet.

[Maz]

The Swedes have everything ahead, yesterday the Franks and Spaniards with the Americans annealed, each country has more than a thousand deaths per day. Here it is not necessary to teach others, but to ask for help and send medical troops to the cities. And they won maneuvers in Georgia, maneuvers in Poland, Norway, the Arctic, South America, the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, well, no? Soon the infected polymons will be in the USA.

[RideMaster]

Well, at the top they know that this is nonsense.
This is the same as with speed, the same system.
Plus, the same pneumonia from which 250 thousand people die a year is also written on the crown, and ordinary flu is written on the crown. Therefore, they are doing things calmly.

Where with such an epidemic hundreds of videos from hospitals?

[Maximus69]

there will be a hysteria if in your capital near the royal palace an enemy submarine pops up! Alexei, believe me, this is remembered for a long time ....

[PilotS37]

Quote: Maximus69

there will be a hysteria if in your capital near the royal palace an enemy submarine pops up! Alexei, believe me, this is remembered for a long time ....

Already surfaced:

[Maximus69]

Yeah, there are more relevant photos for example from 1981 ...

[g1v2]

Well, for a country with a population of 10 million, this is not much in principle. It is unlikely that they will have more than 10 thousand deaths. And this is 0,1 percent. In general, from the point of view of demography, this is not a problem. The rest will get sick.

[Cowbra]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Strange behavior for the Swedes ...

They have been sitting in their homes for six months, if not in large cities, as it has warmed up - what prohibitions do not enter, you won’t keep anyone at home

[Dimon77]

In Sweden, 7922 are officially infected and 622 dead today.
The government said that at the first symptoms of a cold, stay at home, the state pays sick leave from the first day 100% of the salary, no certificates are needed.

[Prjanik]

In neighboring Norway, 6086 infected - 93 deaths = 1,53 mortality, in Finland at 2487 - 40 deaths = 1,61 mortality, and in Sweden at 8419 - 687 = 8,17 mortality. I am sure that in fact the mortality rate among the Swedes is the same, there are actually much more infected people. Apparently they decided to go along the early British path. It is profitable not to incur economic costs and to spend money on compensation, it would be better if everyone gets sick and a certain percentage of the population dies out. Moreover, the majority of the deceased are people of retirement age, and again, profitably, no one needs to pay pensions.
But Britain still changed its course to quarantine, what Sweden will do is to see.

[Dimon77]

Britain walked along the Swedish path

[Operator]

The density and natural isolation of the population in Swedish low-rise cities, divided by bays into separate microdistricts, is an order of magnitude lower than in American megacities.

Nevertheless, taking into account the greater test coverage of the population of Sweden than the population of America, the real mortality rate from coronavirus in the first country is higher than in the second not two times, but at least four.

Quarantine, even one so full of holes as in the USA, is bearing fruit (a clear illustration of the question - which is more lethal: flu without quarantine or coronavirus with quarantine).

[tatra]

Quarantine is needed so that some people do not infect others, and mortality from coronavirus depends on the qualifications of the medical staff, the availability of equipment to support people with a severe form of coronavirus, complicated by the diseases that they had before infection.

[Operator]

Mortality from an epidemic depends not only on the qualifications of personnel and the availability of ventilation devices, but also on the banal peak of incidence - if it is so high that the personnel and devices (which cannot be built up and kept in peacetime indefinitely) are stupidly lacking, then mortality will skyrocket.

Here, to smooth the peak, quarantine also serves.

The Swedes set up an experiment on themselves - such as what natural percentage of mortality will be during an epidemic of coronavirus in a population of people, if they are not divided among themselves.

[tatra]

Well, the Swedes proved that they do not have a high incidence peak compared to quarantined countries.

[Operator]

This is not about the degree of infection of the population, but about the level of mortality among those infected with coronavirus - a natural level in the case of Sweden.

Intensive therapy and full quarantine (both in China or in Russia) blur the picture and do not make it possible to compare mortality from influenza and coronavirus under comparable conditions.

"To the madness of the brave [Swedes] we sing a song" (C)

[Snail N9]

The virus is such a thing ....

[Operator]

Sweden, India, Bnei Brak, Williamsburg - Bhai Bhai

[PilotS37]

Quote: Operator

Sweden, India, Bnei Brak, Williamsburg - Bhai Bhai

Here you are laughing, and in India while one of the lowest incidence of coronary virus in the world (0,039 per 10 thousand population against 0,591 in Russia, 0,592 in China and 12,178 in the USA), the same with mortality: 0,001 versus 0,004, 0,024 and 0,391, respectively ...
"Wild people!
Children of the mountains! "(C)
They probably just don’t watch TV.

[yfast]

In some African countries, there are no deaths from coronavirus, as well as those who are ill. Apparently they eat all the testers.

[RideMaster]

For a long time already an experiment was put on the princess. But it was safely forgotten because it needs panic and reformatting of the world.

[Paul Siebert]

Trump loves the superlative "very" in English.
And the plane was sent to him from Russia very large, and his relationship with Kim is very good and the situation in American industry is very, very positive ...
He should look out of the White House more often.
The situation in New York and in America as a whole very shitty ...

[Mimoprohodil]

the US president said that "Sweden is suffering very much from the coronavirus."

Did he say that? Or is it someone stupid twisted these words

If we chose the Swedish strategy, then the situation in the States would be even worse. We would have received far more deaths than now.

[RideMaster]

The second phrase is even worse, as it almost directly called the Swedes idiots.

[knn54]

They are trying to rely on a sense of common sense of a rather disciplined population.
The government requires the broadest powers (as during WWII) and is developing a bill that will allow it to introduce quarantine measures (for example, close restaurants, shopping centers, airports and train stations, as well as redistribute medical equipment between regions) without parliamentary approval, although it would be for three months .
Opposition v. The primary measure is considered necessary to close Stockholm soon, which accounts for about half of the cases of disease.

[rotmistr60]

Honestly, Trump is somewhat right, because Sweden still comes around in the coming week its attitude towards the pandemic. On the other hand, Trump, by virtue of his character, manages to spoil relations, even in an environment where like everyone should support each other. But in the Western world this is just not observed.

[Amateur]

Statistics knows everything

Weaving should not be considered in absolute terms, but in% of the population. Those. per 1000 people, so much is sick, so much has recovered, and so much has died. It will be an objective idea to compare the number of deaths in countries with an incomparable population is complete nonsense.

[pv1005]

Quote: Amateur

Statistics knows everything

Weaving should not be considered in absolute terms, but in% of the population. Those. per 1000 people, so much is sick, so much has recovered, and so much has died. It will be an objective idea to compare the number of deaths in countries with an incomparable population is complete nonsense.

If you didn’t confuse anything with sleep, then per 1000 people:
cases in the USA - 1,22, in Shvets II 0,74, in China 0,059, in Russia 0,056.

[reservist]

probably it would be more correct to compare data for New York, Stockholm, Wuhan and Moscow, i.e. on the "cities-anthills" ...

[pv1005]

Quote: reservist

probably it would be more correct to compare data for New York, Stockholm, Wuhan and Moscow, i.e. on the "cities-anthills" ...

Flag (calculator) in your hands. Count.

[reservist]

It’s easy to calculate where to get data on New York and Stockholm?

[AU Ivanov.]

It is impossible to count in the absolute - this is incorrect, it is necessary to count on the number of patients, including those in whom the disease proceeds without clinical manifestations.

[aleks26]

it would probably be more correct to compare the data taking into account the population. Do not forget that there are 325 million in the United States and only 10 million in Sweden.

[rocket757]

The result will be ... there will be a result. And then we will compare.

[RVAPatriot]

In Belarus, 1066 cases of coronavirus have been reported since the outbreak. 77 people recovered
Read more: https://news.tut.by/society/679791.html

[RVAPatriot]

Quote: RVAPatriot

In Belarus, since the outbreak of 1066 cases of coronavirus. 77 people recovered
Read more: https://news.tut.by/society/679791.html

[sheet]

Swedish statistics- hypocritical lies. Easter is ahead, from Friday to Monday, inclusive, a weekend, but from April 18 they can (!) Close shopping centers, bars, restaurants, cinemas, exercise machines.

[Cheerock]

Quote: user1212

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Strange behavior for the Swedes ... then they have a tantrum from the mythical Russian submarines ... and here there is such calm with 300 dead

It would be strange behavior if the search for Russian submarines were aimed at protecting their population. But the goal, apparently, was not that. As for the coronavirus, according to the wiki, without any media hype, around 17 million people a year get pneumonia worldwide, about 265 thousand cases are fatal

I don’t know where you get these numbers from, but even so, we think:
100% x 256,000 / 17,000,000 = 1,5% mortality from common pneumonia
according to today's data on the "crown":
100% x 82,210 / 385,230 = 21% mortality in the world.
Specifically in Sweden today:
100% x 591/796 = 74%
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

[Cheerock]

Quote: sheet

Swedish statistics- hypocritical lies. Easter is ahead, from Friday to Monday, inclusive, a weekend, but from April 18 they can (!) Close shopping centers, bars, restaurants, cinemas, exercise machines.

Where did the information come from, sorry?

[sheet]

Where did the information come from, sorry?
From here:
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/K3maL5/nya-krislagen-for-att-stoppa-corona-det-har-far-regeringen-gora

[Cheerock]

Quote: sheet

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/K3maL5/nya-krislagen-for-att-stoppa-corona-det-har-far-regeringen-gora

I understand that the Riksdag has not yet been approved and the government has not yet received such rights?

[sheet]

You understand correctly. I wrote, "they can close it."