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Beginning of the End of Oil Madness

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Oil and gas is not about us?



In the midst of global anti-virus hysteria, US President Donald Trump decided to say that the United States is actually ready to participate in reducing oil production. However, he made a reservation that the Americans can do this together with other oil-producing countries, and moreover, such a decision has not yet been taken by itself.

At a briefing at the White House, the American leader generally spoke in an uncharacteristic manner. At least, he did not scare the audience with hundreds of thousands of potentially dying, did not show any aggression. But despite the fact that his regular “kickbacks” on the principle of “my word is tsarist, I want to give, I want to take it back” are already beginning to bother the public, the president, by and large, did not change himself.

“I do not know, we will need to make a decision on this subject. Maybe we will do it, or maybe not. “I think the reduction is automatic if you believe in the [laws] of the market.”

It seems that the window is closed, but the window remains, and not for nothing that Trump reminded that companies in the US are already forced to reduce production due to low oil prices.


Has it really come to a playboy in the president’s chair that no one is going to give their niches in the market to Americans? Not the richest Mexico, supplying fuel almost exclusively to the American market, was generally ready for some time to go at a minus price of its oil.

The American president gave his speech and explanation. For the most dull. “Because this is a market - it is supply and demand,” Trump said, answering journalists' questions about whether he would ask American oil companies to reduce production.

But not even a month has passed since the owner of the White House did not hide his satisfaction with the low oil prices, considering them beneficial to the world economy. Today it’s indecent to talk about any benefits to the world economy ... It’s about how to save it, even in China, which, even with a complete reboot, will face enormous sales problems.

It is hardly worth it now to explain that the consequences of global self-isolation can be much worse than the pandemic itself. But at the same time, the games of the oil kings turn out to be much more dangerous than draconian measures, which apply not so much to the general public as to relatively free enterprise. But not only the prospects for production and uninterrupted gas supplies, but the energy security of Europe and the United States with China, are directly related to oil and gas disassemblies.

Attempts to overstock cheap hydrocarbon raw materials, which the two countries made with the start of a large anti-virus campaign, gave them, in fact, only one thing - immediate benefits. In the long run, this benefit does not cost anything, especially since it will be necessary to launch the flywheel of the global economy, regardless of who benefits from the global redistribution undertaken by someone.

Forget about Nord Stream


One would like to repeat the famous words of Admiral Makarov, carved on the pedestal of his monument in Kronstadt: “Remember the war!” Today, a truly world war has been unfolded. No nuclear weaponswithout fronts and fleets, we can even say that without armies, although law enforcement officers were given a carte blanche that they did not dream of. Under no circumstances and emergency.


Recall again: oil and gas come in one bundle. And does one of the uninitiated imagine where the Akademik Chersky pipe-laying machine is now located? These days, when all the media are jammed with viral the news, only scouts and industry experts can find information about it. But, alas, neither one nor the other has a special need for this.

Nevertheless, just for the uninitiated - the latest information from the Marine Traffic navigation portal, dated 11:57 Moscow time on April 6. The Akademik Chersky pipe layer has changed the waypoint from Pointe Noire in the Congo to Las Palmas in Spain. According to the portal, the ship plans to arrive there on April 18.

In fact, it’s clear that the ship will eventually reach the Baltic. And the specialists of the Russian Gazprom, together with foreign partners, will certainly complete Nord Stream 2. But not in a hurry, and without tantrums and tough confrontation with the same States. As the saying goes, the provision is binding. The gas war is being postponed; the “war” on a completely different scale is on the agenda.

Today, there are already all signs that oil prices in any case will not be allowed to "go into the red" for a long time. The latter should be left to the bitter headlines of colleagues in the media. Futures, that is, contracts with a fixed price for the future, aim to increase.

Although for us in Russia, with a largely self-sufficient economy, it is hardly worth looking at oil quotes for any reason. Nevertheless, sooner or later, even with oil and gas, everything will be fine. Not completely, but certainly for a long time. The periods of normal life, by definition, still remain longer than the great wars and crises.

Live to thursday


“If there wasn’t a virus, it had to be invented.” Do not you think that this was said precisely about what is happening today before our eyes? At least, the oil kings, behind whom gas emperors modestly attached themselves, do not really hide the desire to take convincing revenge from financiers, ecologists and representatives of the digital industry.

However, while they are still engaged in a showdown with each other. And even if local crises and wars never stop. We are not used to it. Oil prices, as soon as the pandemic disappears, will immediately return from the dungeon, but will not return to the skies.

It’s a paradox, but even shale projects in the USA will certainly not be allowed to die. Is it worth explaining that the latest statement by Donald Trump sounded to the applause of the US oil lobby? In many respects, everything that we observe today is because the prospects for the extractive industries have become increasingly dubious with each passing year. Without any virus and without any pandemic.

The leaders of the world oil and gas complex seem to have learned to agree among themselves, as evidenced by the same deals with pluses. At the same time, the “shale” Americans are still trying to play some kind of independence, although such games seem to be about to end.

Beginning of the End of Oil Madness

At the same time, Russia can be considered a weak link in a series of agreements with OPEC, as it has more than other difficulties with the realization of good intentions to reduce production levels. And technological, and geographical, and logistics, and even political, Syria alone is worth something, and in Libya, too, the Russians are again not in the lead.

The Russian oil industry now urgently needs not only to save unprofitable wells, but also to prepare for their launch, and the princes from Riyadh need free hands in the same OPEC. In negotiations with the United States, of course, there can be no talk of any freedom of hands, and therefore we have to maneuver on another front. Russia was just on it, besides, it was negotiable for a long time, but on March 6, 2020 it took and rebelled.

It immediately became clear to many that Russia began a hard divorce from OPEC only because it did not want to give its market share to those who did not participate in the OPEC + deal. Indeed, in addition to the United States, by and large, Mexico and Brazil could not be drawn into it either. Now it seems to succeed.

It remains only to add that Donald Trump also managed to declare that he did not give promises to reduce oil production by the United States in order to raise prices during negotiations with Russia and Saudi Arabia. But this did not stop him from recognizing that low prices cause serious damage to the American oil industry. Trump has repeatedly stated that he does not doubt the successful outcome of negotiations with Moscow and Riad to reduce oil production. So let's wait until Thursday.
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  1. Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 8 2020 15: 10 New
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    Maybe we can cut it, but ... maybe not. Pans swear, and at the lackeys foreheads crack.
    1. Mastodon
      Mastodon April 8 2020 16: 17 New
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      “I do not know, we will need to make a decision on this subject. Maybe we will do it, or maybe not. “I think the reduction is automatic if you believe in the [laws] of the market.”

      Russia did not kneel down and just chuckles, along with China .. Come on, Donald rollback in this senseless war of economies!
      You lost the gentlemen, and you yourself got into the pit shit, prepared for us bully
      And you will have to repay trillion debts .. !!! And for the war of the world, you do not untwist countries on another continent this time .. We know your little things and patterns .. hi
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta April 8 2020 17: 12 New
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        Quote: Mastodon
        Russia then did not kneel down and just chuckles, along with China ..

        According to Rospozorstat, we seem to just get up off our knees, and if we fall again, these are some exercises with squats. and China then in oil wars at what?
        Quote: Mastodon
        Come on Donald rollback in this senseless war of economies!

        This is our opinion, as our beloved chef, Michal Ivanitch says, there’s no time for buildup ..
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      2. antique
        antique April 8 2020 17: 13 New
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        Russia then did not kneel down and just chuckles, along with China ..

        You can beat yourself in the chest, you can throw your hat on the ground, you can tear the shirt on your chest shouting furiously: "Russia did not kneel ..."
        In fact, Russia is not on its knees, it is in the pose of a beggar supplicant, with an outstretched and open palm. An ultimatum was given to her. The ultimatum goes something like this: Russia choose where to shoot you, in the right leg or straight in the head. Zugzwang position. There will be no money at all, or a little bit. For a little bit of money, you have to go through international humiliation and admit all your attempts to bend the US and Saudi Arabia at the same time as a stupid "multi-move." But if this can still be done in the international arena, then repeating the same thing inside the country is in no way possible.
        Therefore, from all the irons, joyful news of a great victory is carried.
        The immortal must be alone.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 8 2020 17: 36 New
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          God ... what stupidity ... infantilism is just wild ... from whom and what did we ask? we just refused to do something that is not beneficial to us. everything else is the consequences. in fact, if the states enter into a deal then they have achieved their goals. and that’s it. without any other meanings.
          1. antique
            antique April 8 2020 18: 06 New
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            God ... what stupidity ... infantilism is just wild ... from whom and what did we ask?
            It seems so to you. Because you either do not understand, or do not know, or are deceiving.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 9 2020 00: 27 New
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              Quote: Antique
              Because you either do not understand, or do not know, or are deceiving.

              You may not know, but here you can easily see old comments

              Here, for example, you wrote last January:
              Quote: Antique
              There is no "Hunter"! Take it easy. Rather, cancer whistles on the mountain. He is still being dragged along the ground on cables. Iron model. See if the wheels will fall off or not. And the electorate is pleased. He throws himself into a joyful discussion of what does not yet exist. Again, patriotism is awakening. These are all manipulative technologies.


              And what really happened?
              At the end of September, were you not ashamed of these words? When the famous video with the flight of "Hunter" was shown ...
              1. antique
                antique April 9 2020 07: 55 New
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                Quote: Spade
                And what really happened?
                At the end of September, were you not ashamed of these words? When the famous video with the flight of "Hunter" was shown ...

                You need to get used to <I am always writing the truth and I am always right. This is an axiom. There is no Hunter. And it doesn't fly. What was shown is a short span. The system is not ready <and will not be ready for the foreseeable future. That's when it will be launched into mass production, when it shows itself in real actions, then it will be possible to talk about something.
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 April 10 2020 12: 54 New
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                  wink
                  Quote: Antique
                  You need to get used to <I am always writing the truth and I am always right. This is an axiom.

                  And your definition is good, for a long time and succinctly was given by a certain Dmitry Puchkov, aka "Goblin"
        2. antivirus
          antivirus April 8 2020 17: 43 New
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          Indeed, in addition to the United States, by and large, Mexico and Brazil could not be drawn into it either. Now it seems to succeed.

          - Only for the countries of the Western Hemisphere, led by the United States, it is necessary to surrender to Venezuela. its quotas will be signed by Braz, Mexico, etc., as the Persians passed to the KSA
          1. Oleg Zorin
            Oleg Zorin April 10 2020 14: 30 New
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            At the end of March, Venezuela mined 650 thousand bar / day. Do you seriously believe that this is a lot?
        3. ccsr
          ccsr April 8 2020 18: 07 New
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          Quote: Antique
          . An ultimatum was set in front of her. The ultimatum sounds something like this: Russia choose where you shoot, in the right foot or immediately in the head. Zugzwang position. There will be no money at all, or a little bit.

          Do you seriously believe that Putin’s apparatus didn’t calculate all the options for such a step, and this situation with a drop in oil prices came as a surprise to him? Do not make me laugh. Even for simpler decisions that are prepared at the level of the president and the government, his advisers calculate all the consequences, and for this they always keep such specialists in power, although their names are not advertised as a rule. First of all, nobody bent Putin - not even a coronavirus, although with him he began to look paler like a president. Secondly, an airbag in the form of gold and foreign exchange reserves will provide the country with a decent existence for several more years. And thirdly, the most important thing is that Putin may not be afraid of Trump’s threats, if only because the next election will not be soon, and our military power will not allow anyone to control our president.
          Quote: Antique
          For a little bit of money, you have to go through international humiliation and admit all your attempts to bend the US and Saudi Arabia at the same time as a stupid "multi-move."

          We’ll see who is cheating on someone, but in this case you are clearly not one of those whose forecasts can be trusted, if only because you will never understand the intent of Putin’s actions in a critical situation. By the way, here we already had one author swear that the dollar will soon be 100-110 rubles, and now it is clear that the rollback has gone, although I know perfectly well that for 61 rubles. he will be gone. The way you believe - do not respect yourself.
          1. antique
            antique April 8 2020 18: 15 New
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            We’ll see who is cheating on someone, but in this case you are clearly not one of those whose forecasts can be trusted, if only because you will never understand the intent of Putin’s actions in a critical situation.
            It is your right to think so. My right to think the way I want.
            But reality, it is objective and manifests itself independently of the will or mind. So the reality tells us that Putin has not solved almost all strategic tasks. Did not cope. A yard boy who can only play checkers will always lose a game of chess to the international grandmaster. Despite the staff of assistants.
            1. ccsr
              ccsr April 8 2020 18: 31 New
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              Quote: Antique
              So the reality tells us that Putin has not solved almost all strategic tasks.

              Well, why didn’t he decide if the renewed armed forces fully guarantee us security in the foreseeable future, even after his departure. And at the very least, but the population growth has been outlined, and this is a very big strategic task, which, for example, cannot be solved in Europe. And the country is developing - one Crimea and its accession is worth it.
              Quote: Antique
              A yard boy who can only play checkers will always lose a game of chess to the international grandmaster.

              We heard this Hochma from the Israelis more than once, but life has shown that the game of chess did not stand close to life situations in which the operational management of the country is much more important than strategic planning for many years to come. The collapse of the USSR just happened not because the strategic path (socialism) was chosen incorrectly, but because the operational management of the country fell into the hands of the ordinary talker and layman Gorbachev, which destroyed the great power.
              Quote: Antique
              Despite the staff of assistants.

              By the way, all the outstanding chess players have always had coaches or assistants, but that is not the point, but people who play chess worse than them have come up with a win-win algorithm, and now no grandmaster will risk playing with a computer. That's the whole price of grandmastering - life is too complicated for grandmasters, which is why there are no rulers among them.
              1. antique
                antique April 8 2020 18: 51 New
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                Well, why didn’t he decide if the renewed armed forces fully guarantee us security in the foreseeable future, even after his departure. And at the very least, but the population growth has been outlined, and this is a very big strategic task,
                As if the TV wrote. Right some kind of agitation. As for the updated aircraft, this is a big question. They are not updated, but are still being updated. Population growth is not true. Russia is dying out. This is reality. Thank you for the Crimea.
                About a yard kid playing checkers, I came up with. Israel has nothing to do with it. This is my sketch. I use it quite often.
                About the reasons for the collapse of the Union, it’s better not. But one
                of the factors, this is massive lackeys and opportunism. The same thing is happening now. When a host of race officials lick and glorify the High Priest, convincing him that the Leader is the youngest, most dexterous and athletic, and naturally the most intelligent. Therefore, the leader does not think, but comes up with his many-steps. Which subsequently turn into brilliant victories in any situation. After all, there are no goals conceded or losses in the international political arena.
                And such knowledgeable people like you tell us about this. Thank you for that.
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr April 8 2020 19: 03 New
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                  Quote: Antique
                  As if the TV wrote. Right some kind of agitation.

                  You’ll live with mine, maybe you can learn how to separate the grain from the chaff. In the meantime, you can believe in the honesty of Navalny and his gop company ...
                  Quote: Antique
                  About a yard kid playing checkers, I came up with. Israel has nothing to do with it. This is my sketch. I use it quite often.

                  So I want to answer -
                  You are a tramp, Shura, a Gorky type! You need to dress up, wash, give you a major overhaul.
                  Ostap Bender. (S)
                  Quote: Antique
                  About the reasons for the collapse of the Union, it’s better not.

                  Tell yours, but do not forget to indicate who you were at that time, so that you can understand your level of competency.
                  1. antique
                    antique April 8 2020 22: 48 New
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                    Quote: ccsr
                    Tell yours, but do not forget to indicate who you were at that time, so that you can understand your level of competency.

                    Quote: ccsr
                    So I want to answer -
                    You are a tramp, Shura, a Gorky type! You need to dress up, wash, give you a major overhaul.
                    Ostap Bender. (S)

                    You, the leader, it is time to be treated with electricity. Ostap Bender.
                2. antique
                  antique April 8 2020 22: 35 New
                  -1
                  Putin meeting with virologists specialists. A rare idiot typical of power. And someone dares to blame Stalin after this for a personality cult?

                  Cit. I participated in the liquidation of the consequences of the Chernobyl tragedy. The level of organization and effectiveness cannot even be compared with that achieved thanks to you, Vladimir Vladimirovich ...

                  ... Your endurance and depth of vision of the problem, Vladimir Vladimirovich, cannot but admire ...

                  ... The composure and wisdom with which the president makes decisions, verified to the smallest detail ...

                  ...Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich!
                  I am absolutely convinced that Russia will come out with minimal losses from this very difficult situation. The key to such faith, my conviction is how today a very balanced, well-calculated policy of the state and the Government is built in this very difficult situation, difficult economic and difficult, of course, humanitarian ...
                  1. antique
                    antique April 8 2020 22: 39 New
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                    A small continuation of the same lackey behavior such as virologists. Which instead of licking the first person should give specific answers to questions. But instead ...
                    Cit .... For the team of Vladimir Vladimirovich, power is today characterized by self-control and competence, it is very important. I understand the host of problems that, like the iceberg below, have to be addressed by the Government team, the President. But then you need to go out to people and you need to tell them. And so, as Vladimir Vladimirovich addressed twice. He found the tone of the conversation when he turns to us, doctors, turns to volunteers, he turns to young people, he turns to veterans: let’s together, only together we can solve this really difficult situation for the country ...

                    ... And at the same time, Vladimir Vladimirovich, your pain is heard, pain for losses, pain, of course, for the state. But this tonality of truthful conversation, very correct, tactful, resonates with our hearts ...
            2. musketon64
              musketon64 April 8 2020 18: 37 New
              -2
              But the opinion of a competent person. All laid out on shelves. I recommend to view.
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc3aJMm143Y
          2. atalef
            atalef April 8 2020 19: 02 New
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            Quote: ccsr
            By the way, here we already had one author swear that the dollar will soon be 100-110 rubles, and now it is clear that the rollback has gone, although I know perfectly well that for 61 rubles. he will be gone. The way you believe - do not respect yourself.

            Well, it just explains - the Central Bank is selling dollars.
            Without this, he would have come to 90
            1. ccsr
              ccsr April 8 2020 19: 09 New
              +4
              Quote: atalef
              Well, it just explains - the Central Bank is selling dollars.
              Without this, he would have come to 90

              Agree that you prepared for this in advance, once you bought gold, and created reserves of currency, not US Treasury securities, which you got rid of. At least this option was worked out - this is obvious.
              1. antique
                antique April 9 2020 08: 03 New
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                Quote: ccsr
                Agree that you prepared for this in advance, once you bought gold, and created reserves of currency, not US Treasury securities, which you got rid of.

                It seems to you that somewhere someone is sitting the most perspicacious, with his many-steps and calculates everything. There is no such thing. Upstairs there are ordinary cynical thieving people. The same as everywhere else.
                CIT.MOSCOW, April 7, 2020, 15:13 - REGNUM For the first two months of 2020, Russia sold $ 854 million worth of gold bullion abroad. This is evidenced by the statistics of the Federal Customs Service. Compared to the same period last year, exports of precious metals grew seven times.

                Most of the gold from Russia was exported to the capital of Great Britain, the world's largest physical bullion trading center, writes the portal Finanz.ru. For January - February 2020, this figure amounted to 15,4 tons for $ 775 million.
                Here they are RESOURCES, flew to England. Quiet glanders and no one knows why. It feels like the whole multi-way team is preparing a backup airfield.
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr April 9 2020 11: 20 New
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                  Quote: Antique
                  Here they are RESOURCES, flew to England. Quiet glanders and no one knows why.

                  If you knew at what price gold bars were bought and at what price they were sold, you didn’t ask such silly questions.
                  Quote: Antique
                  It feels like the whole multi-way team is preparing a backup airfield.

                  They are being pinched there, which is why they will never have a reserve airfield there - on the contrary, they will do everything so that nothing threatens their capital inside Russia, which means they will achieve stability in the state.
                  By the way, what did you do in the USSR - do not evade the question of "theorist".
                  1. antique
                    antique April 9 2020 12: 31 New
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                    Quote: ccsr
                    By the way, what did you do in the USSR - do not evade the question of "theorist".

                    You would have to learn courtesy for a start, and then ask questions.
            2. ROBIN-SON
              ROBIN-SON April 10 2020 09: 46 New
              +1
              Interventions by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation are visible on the Forex chart. How much do they dump usd per day?
            3. Albert1988
              Albert1988 April 10 2020 12: 57 New
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              Quote: atalef
              Well, it just explains - the Central Bank is selling dollars.
              Without this, he would have come to 90

              In this case, the Central Bank should have more dollars than the United States ...
          3. Hypatius
            Hypatius April 9 2020 00: 20 New
            +1
            Do you seriously believe that Putin’s apparatus didn’t calculate all the options for such a step, and this situation with a drop in oil prices came as a surprise to him? Do not make me laugh.
            On the example of Belarus, which is now buying oil at $ 4-5, instead of $ 60, we see a delicate calculation and all the genius of the KhPP laughing . It is necessary to hire even more Kremlin boats in order to make zhrada difficult, and greedy by great geostrategs.
            Let’s see who will whip whom ...
            And to bend, stupid people-geostrategy can only Russia. Yes, they have already begun: Gas + 3%, restriction of gasoline imports.
            The way you believe - do not respect yourself.
            1. antique
              antique April 9 2020 07: 50 New
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              Quote: Hypatius
              On the example of Belarus, which is now buying oil at $ 4-5, instead of $ 60, we see a delicate calculation and all the genius of the HSP. It is necessary to hire even more Kremlin boats in order to make zhrada difficult, and greedy by great geostrategs.

              I agree. These pen and keyboard wizards have numbers.
              1. MMX
                MMX April 9 2020 11: 06 New
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                Quote: Antique
                Quote: Hypatius
                On the example of Belarus, which is now buying oil at $ 4-5, instead of $ 60, we see a delicate calculation and all the genius of the HSP. It is necessary to hire even more Kremlin boats in order to make zhrada difficult, and greedy by great geostrategs.

                I agree. These pen and keyboard wizards have numbers.


                It's like that.
                1. antique
                  antique April 9 2020 11: 56 New
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                  Your picture is wrong. You inserted it without understanding the differences in power structures between Russia and the United States. The US Presidential Administration is considered to be the staff of assistants and executive management staff. The federal executive bodies and their leaders are also called the Presidential Administration or cabinet. That is, this is what we call the Government of Russia. Therefore, in your picture is such a crazy figure. So add to the staff of the AP of Russia, the entire Cabinet of Ministers and see what happens. This will be the correct comparison.
                  1. MMX
                    MMX April 9 2020 13: 29 New
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                    Quote: Antique
                    Your picture is wrong. You inserted it without understanding the differences in power structures between Russia and the United States. The US Presidential Administration is considered to be the staff of assistants and executive management staff. The federal executive bodies and their leaders are also called the Presidential Administration or cabinet. That is, this is what we call the Government of Russia. Therefore, in your picture is such a crazy figure. So add to the staff of the AP of Russia, the entire Cabinet of Ministers and see what happens. This will be the correct comparison.


                    Who is considered? You?
                    But in reality, everything is different:

                    1. antique
                      antique April 9 2020 14: 18 New
                      -1
                      Wikipedia is not the only source of knowledge. If you are not able to understand what is written and realize it, the topic is closed.
                      1. MMX
                        MMX April 9 2020 15: 02 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Antique
                        Wikipedia is not the only source of knowledge. If you are not able to understand what is written and realize it, the topic is closed.


                        In your case, you did not cite a single source.
                        It first.
                        Secondly, the office of the US president (government) and the executive office of the US president are different bodies and are formed in different ways. If the office is a structure appointed only by the President of the United States, the cabinet is formed by the President with the consent of the Senate.

                        If you are not able to understand what is written and realize it, the topic is closed.

                        We posted a false picture in the comments, and when you were stuffed up to the tonsils for this picture (pointing out the facts), run "proudly" instead of admitting a mistake. I understand people like you. It is worthy of you.
                  2. Hypatius
                    Hypatius April 10 2020 03: 18 New
                    0
                    There is also, for a fun and informative comparison, the number of employees of the Federal Reserve System (??% of world trade), the Eurobank and "our" Central Bank of the Russian Federation, who are fingering tickets instead of money.
            2. ccsr
              ccsr April 9 2020 11: 25 New
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              Quote: Hypatius
              On the example of Belarus, which is now buying oil at $ 4-5, instead of $ 60, we see a delicate calculation and all the genius of the KhPP

              You are still that "analyst" - you still do not understand why the union state was originally created, although as it turned out, the drunkard missed this case. But in the end, Belarus will not benefit from the collapse of the union state - so the "dad" is still that Susanin.
              Quote: Hypatius
              Need to hire even more Kremlin boats,

              Hire - who's stopping you, isn’t Grudinin hoping?
              Quote: Hypatius
              And to bend, stupid people-geostrategy can only Russia.

              Something I do not see the deflection of Russia - apparently it exists only in your imagination. Can you tell me what the trick is?
              1. Hypatius
                Hypatius April 10 2020 03: 13 New
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                But in the end, Belarus will not benefit from the collapse of the union state - so the "dad" is still that Susanin.
                It’s like the 1/4 century Old Man was slowing down, but in 1996 I was ready to vote for him as the president of the Union, in fulfillment of the will of the Soviet people from the referendum of 1991. It's just that this is nonsense of the managers who occupied the Kremlin, with which the restoration of the Union prevents the plunder of the USSR state.
                Something I do not see the deflection of Russia - apparently it exists only in your imagination. Can you tell me what the trick is?
                The fact that Russia and the people are bending by the self-appointed power of erefia can not be seen only if you put 30 silver coins in your eyes. But the trick is that when you receive a penny from the Kremlin thief (from the cook pu), you are ready to defend the traitors of the Motherland. But, here in VO, your several teams can’t impose a false picture, because here it’s not shkololo and has brains. But the USSR will recover, and no one has canceled article 64 of the betrayal of the Motherland. And these attempts, with amendments to the draft unaccepted constitution, will not help traitors to escape a fair trial of the USSR. There are one or two years left, and the ghouls are already fussing, trying to head and pervert. The truth will win.
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr April 10 2020 11: 52 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Hypatius
                  Simply, this is nonsense of the managers who occupied the Kremlin, with whom the restoration of the Union prevents the plunder of the USSR state.

                  Actually, it was not about the USSR, but about the union state of Russia and Belarus. None of this came about, and by no means the fault of the Kremlin.

                  Quote: Hypatius
                  . But the trick is that when you receive a penny from the Kremlin thief (from the cook pu), you are ready to defend the traitors of the Motherland.

                  In fact, the overwhelming majority of Russian citizens vote for Putin - are they all traitors to the homeland too?
                  Quote: Hypatius
                  But the USSR will recover

                  Dream, I won’t bother you.

                  Quote: Hypatius
                  The truth will win.

                  Unfortunately, the concept of "truth" is different for all peoples, so what "truth" are you talking about - Ukrainian, Belarusian, Russian or Soviet?
            3. Albert1988
              Albert1988 April 10 2020 15: 25 New
              0
              Quote: Hypatius
              On the example of Belarus, which is now buying oil at $ 4-5, instead of $ 60, we see a delicate calculation and all the genius of the KhPP.

              And how much do you think Belarus will buy oil AFTER this crisis?
      3. Vladimir B.
        Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 25 New
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        Quote: Mastodon
        Russia then did not kneel down and just chuckles, along with China

        Forget about China. China is not our friend. The time will come, China will stick a knife in our back.
      4. for
        for April 9 2020 00: 08 New
        +2
        Quote: Mastodon
        Russia did not kneel down and just chuckles, along with China.

        China is not laughing at us, but at us.
    2. Vladimir B.
      Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 24 New
      17
      Quote: Doccor18
      Maybe we can cut it, but ... maybe not.

      Shorten. Cheap oil is not profitable for us.
  2. Lamata
    Lamata April 8 2020 15: 10 New
    -4
    So what is the article about? Trump is respectful.
    1. mole
      mole April 8 2020 15: 27 New
      12
      The article is that in any situation, from all the boxes they will broadcast the victory of Rosneft. Even Pyrrova!
      1. Lamata
        Lamata April 8 2020 15: 35 New
        +3
        So there Sechin !!!!! Our everything, the one who should not be let go and little money to pay, because it will be immediately taken away by our competitors.
        1. mole
          mole April 8 2020 15: 38 New
          -2
          Can "Our All" sell or lease out on the edge?
          1. Lamata
            Lamata April 8 2020 15: 56 New
            -1
            No, he is our brace)))) But dear.
            1. mole
              mole April 8 2020 16: 18 New
              -4
              Nope, not "our". he is not your friend, is he? And on the scale of the budget - a penny.
              Big budget, enough for everyone!
              1. Lamata
                Lamata April 8 2020 16: 20 New
                -2
                The guarantor said, not me)))) he’s definitely not my brace)))
              2. Vladimir B.
                Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 29 New
                14
                Quote: Mole
                Big budget, enough for everyone!

                The budget may not be enough for everyone if they don’t agree on oil.
                1. mole
                  mole April 8 2020 17: 57 New
                  +1
                  Then the budget is OPTIMIZED!
                  In fact, it’s enough to be ironic already, they mocked and that's enough.
                2. Lamata
                  Lamata April 8 2020 19: 47 New
                  +1
                  Fast enough budget
            2. Vladimir B.
              Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 29 New
              11
              Quote: Lamata
              But darling

              This brace is too expensive for us ...
          2. Vladimir B.
            Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 27 New
            14
            Quote: Mole
            Can "Our All" sell or lease out on the edge?

            Who will take "our everything"?
        2. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi April 8 2020 17: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: Lamata
          So there Sechin !!!!! Our everything, the one who should not be let go and little money to pay, because it will be immediately taken away by our competitors.

          Do our competitors have a shortage of people with the qualifications of a janitor and ambitions of Napoleon?
          1. Lamata
            Lamata April 8 2020 17: 26 New
            +2
            Apparently so, if, well, there’s no one but Sechin and Miller, they are the core of our economy.
        3. Vladimir B.
          Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 27 New
          16
          Quote: Lamata
          So there Sechin

          Sechin - Chubais from oil. both of them, in our power, are considered irreplaceableyes
          1. Lamata
            Lamata April 8 2020 17: 42 New
            -3
            Well, then, who should replace this toad-like
        4. antivirus
          antivirus April 8 2020 17: 44 New
          0
          Our competitors will immediately pick up.

          and what, already flew in from Alpha Centauri, asked to let go?
          1. Lamata
            Lamata April 8 2020 17: 45 New
            0
            In line with the centaurs and aldebaran and proxima centaurs
      2. Vladimir B.
        Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 27 New
        15
        Quote: Mole
        Even Pyrrova!

        There will be no Pyrrhic victory. Everything goes to the point that we will agree and not necessarily on our terms. But propaganda on TV will declare this a complete and confident victory!
        1. mole
          mole April 8 2020 17: 59 New
          +1
          I consider it an excellent outcome to stay at least my bet. Although unlikely!
      3. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 April 8 2020 17: 37 New
        -5
        in general, if the states enter into a deal, this is not a victory, but simply an indicator of the correctness of the decision not to agree to a deal with trusteeship and that’s all. there are no victories or defeats. just have your own interests.
        1. mole
          mole April 8 2020 18: 15 New
          +4
          States will not enter into the deal. That's why:
          1. I do not accept the statements of their President on faith.
          2. From the beginning of their shale, a drop in the ocean of their budget.
          3. They have eliminated the mortgage crisis. It costs a lot. The shale has that gravel for an elephant.
          4. Slurred position of Rosneft.
      4. Malyuta
        Malyuta April 8 2020 18: 06 New
        12
        Quote: Mole
        The article is that in any situation, from all the boxes they will broadcast the victory of Rosneft. Even Pyrrova!

        I know why there are no apologists on the site now, they outline the Offshore Panamovich Kabay.
    2. Octopus
      Octopus April 8 2020 17: 05 New
      +6
      Quote: Lamata
      So what is the article about?

      About nothing.
      Quote: Lamata
      Trump is respectful.

      Speech about this briefing, it seems. Maybe some other, he has briefings all the time.
      https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-18/
      Trump said, in fact, nothing.
      is the US willing to cut domestic oil production? What came out of the meeting? What was the consensus?

      THE PRESIDENT: Well, a lot of things came out. It's a great industry, it's an important industry, it's a tremendous job-producing industry. And it's just vital. And it was also very interesting because they all were given the test before they came into the room. So you have the head of Exxon Mobil, you have all these guys taking the test, and they all passed with flying colors. So that was good. They left happy, in that respect, at least.

      There's just an overabundance of oil right now - oil and gas. Tremendous overabundance. And it was caused - they were doing a great job. They were producing a lot of energy. But then you have the virus come along and it knocked another 35 percent, maybe 40 percent, off of the market.

      So there's too much oil. There's a glut. And these are great companies and they'll figure it out. It's free market. We'll figure it out.

      Q You spoke to President Putin. I mean, what's on the table here with him -

      THE PRESIDENT: And with the Crown Prince. Both.

      Q Yeah.

      THE PRESIDENT: They were having a competition. We'll see how it all works out. I think it's going to work out very well. It's going to take a long time to - to get rid of that. There's massive excess amount of oil and gas. Massive Like probably there's never been.

      So where that does work out well, I guess you could say, is for drivers. I think, in certain locations, it's down to 90 and 95 cents a gallon, right now, on the road.

      But we have a tremendous industry, a great industry. A tremendously important industry from the standpoint of jobs. And we're energy independent. We have to make sure we keep it that way.


      Yes, Trump says, there is too much oil on the market, something needs to be addressed with this.

      The problem is that Trump at the same briefing, and later at the April 6th briefing, says that he will decide whether he will introduce a tariff for imported oil. And this will drop demand for non-US oil even more.
    3. Vladimir B.
      Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 26 New
      18
      Quote: Lamata
      So what is the article about?

      The fact that Trump orders an agreement on oil.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr April 8 2020 18: 12 New
        -3
        Quote: Vladimir B.
        The fact that Trump orders an agreement on oil.

        No, the point of the article is that Trump himself got out of control, and now does not know how to turn the situation in the run-up to the elections, that's why flirting began. In any case, he will make enemies that he does not undertake - either among oil industry workers, or among the business elite, which has already suffered losses due to the coronavirus, and which Trump’s ambitions are not interested in becoming a superpower in the production of shale oil. They also know how to count money and have long understood that American shale oil projects and LNG delivery will still be unprofitable for Europe, and therefore no one will invest in it to the fullest. So Trump just turned into a corner, and now he is building a good mine with a bad game.
  3. NEXUS
    NEXUS April 8 2020 15: 11 New
    0
    It has long been said that the energy crisis has long been walking on the earth. Alternative sources of energy will displace gas and oil and coal ... but will the Rothschilds and the Morgan like this? I doubt it very much.
    1. SNEAKY
      SNEAKY April 8 2020 15: 33 New
      +7
      hi Well, a global divorce from the "alternative", ie. "green" went around the world with a bang practically. I will not be surprised at the current pandemic from this angle.
      Well, with oil we will even brush our teeth for a long time)
    2. Egor53
      Egor53 April 8 2020 15: 55 New
      +2
      For hydrocarbons (oil and gas) there is only one alternative source - this is nuclear fuel. But this source is only partial, and is suitable only for generating electricity. Electric cars will never play a significant role in transport.
      Alternative energy in the form of windmills and solar panels is a conversation for uneducated humanities. There are no such alternative energy sources.
      Oil prices below $ 30 per barrel are only possible for a very short period. You can’t sell oil for a long time below the cost of its production.
      Gas is even more complicated. The EU consumes more than 400 billion cubic meters per year. Of these, Norway and other EU countries produce about 100 billion. The remaining 300 need to be purchased. 200 go from Russia through the pipe, and the remaining 100 in the form of LNG. The current gas price in the EU is about $ 100/1000 cubic meters. No one can sell LNG at such a price, so the cost of liquefaction + transportation are more expensive.
      Energy suppliers will not work at a loss.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 8 2020 15: 56 New
        0
        Quote: Egor53
        For hydrocarbons (oil and gas) there is only one alternative source - this is nuclear fuel.

        Which is now outdated ... there has long been talk of a thermonuclear method. And there are several orders of magnitude more energy.
        1. ser56
          ser56 April 8 2020 16: 47 New
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          For a long time there has been talk of a thermonuclear method.

          not only words - see ITER, but the problem is complex - it is good if a working industrial design is created in 30 years .... request
        2. Paul Siebert
          Paul Siebert April 8 2020 17: 18 New
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          For a long time there has been talk of a thermonuclear method. And there is several orders of magnitude more energy.

          Talk about fusion has been going on for over sixty years
          And nothing has changed.
          Speaking of him. The day before yesterday, Trump announced the launch of a new American Lunar program.
          On the creation on the moon of bases for research and mining.
          After all, the Moon is an inexhaustible source of Helium-3, the main fuel for thermonuclear fusion. A few kilograms of this isotope will be able to supply energy to a huge city, such as Moscow, throughout the year.
          Well - this is in perspective. In the meantime, after the approval of this program, the United States will take up the rapid development of its space industry, electronics, and computer technology.
          In my opinion - a very reasonable approach to business.
          It would not hurt us to admonish too. Do not stay on the sidelines of world development.
          To plan. Dream, Achieve.
          Instead of languishing in self-isolation and dreaming of high oil prices ... wink
          1. Vladimir B.
            Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 31 New
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            Quote: Paul Siebert
            It would not hurt us to admonish too. Do not stay on the sidelines of world development.
            To plan. Dream, Achieve.
            Instead of languishing in self-isolation and dreaming of high oil prices

            It didn’t interfere. But the situation with our space program is even worse than with the price of oil ...
          2. Hypatius
            Hypatius April 9 2020 00: 37 New
            0
            After all, the Moon is an inexhaustible source of Helium-3, the main fuel for thermonuclear fusion.
            And the Earth is hydrogen. Near Voronezh, for example, a giant output of hydrogen has long been known, only collect and liquefy. Hydrogen cars are easy to do. If Putin gives Chubais a task, then in a few trillions and 20 years he will make a car on hydrogen (or even two) laughing
      2. Kronos
        Kronos April 8 2020 16: 47 New
        +3
        The cost of production is different everywhere and the Saudis have it much less than 30 for example
      3. ser56
        ser56 April 8 2020 16: 48 New
        0
        Quote: Egor53
        But this source is only partial, and is suitable only for electricity generation.

        still warm ...
    3. Mastodon
      Mastodon April 8 2020 16: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      It has long been said that the energy crisis has long been walking on the earth. Alternative sources of energy will displace gas and oil and coal ... but will the Rothschilds and the Morgan like this? I doubt it very much.

      You raised a dangerous topic Andrew .. wink In general, oil and gas is not only a source of energy, gasoline and heat power station etc.
      This chemical production is the same plastic and other chemical elements.
      Here is a struggle for it !!!!
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 8 2020 16: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: Mastodon
        You raised a dangerous topic Andrew ..

        I didn’t raise this topic, but it was raised long ago ... and if you are talking about the minuses specifically in VO, then I’ve been here too long to pay attention to it.
        Quote: Mastodon
        This chemical production is the same plastic and other chemical elements.

        The main war goes for several things: energy, information sources and water. The rest is only a derivative of what I have listed.
    4. dirk182
      dirk182 April 8 2020 16: 59 New
      +3
      yes they will not force out anything !!! oil and gas will burn until they run out! why come up with something new if the old brings wonderful profits. Or do you think that there are still no alternative sources of energy?
    5. Vladimir B.
      Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 29 New
      16
      Quote: NEXUS
      but will the Rothschilds and the Morgans like this?

      They are everywhere where you can grab a piece fatter.
    6. Malyuta
      Malyuta April 8 2020 17: 56 New
      14
      Quote: NEXUS
      It has long been said that the energy crisis has long been walking on the earth. Alternative sources of energy will displace gas and oil and coal ... but will the Rothschilds and the Morgan like this? I doubt it very much.

      My colleague, I don’t know what the morgues and Rothschilds have in their heads, but the fact that by decree of the President of the Russian Federation renewable energy is a threat to the security of the Russian Federation is a fact. Chapter 2 paragraph 8.
      So do not see us with Putin on electric vehicles !!!
      Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of May 13, 2019 No. 216 “On Approving the Doctrine of Energy Security of the Russian Federation”
      14 May 2019
      II. Challenges and threats to energy security, risks in the field of energy security:
      8. Foreign economic challenges to energy security are:

      a) moving the center of world economic growth to the Asia-Pacific region;

      b) a slowdown in the growth of global demand for energy resources and a change in its structure, including due to the replacement of oil products with other types of energy resources, the development of energy conservation and increased energy efficiency;

      c) an increase in the global resource base of hydrocarbon raw materials, increased competition for energy exporters, including in connection with the emergence of new exporters;

      d) a change in international legal regulation in the field of energy and the conditions for the functioning of world energy markets, strengthening consumer positions;

      e) an increase in the production of liquefied natural gas and its share in world energy markets, the formation of a global natural gas market;

      f) an increase in the share of renewable energy sources in the global fuel and energy balance.

      9. The foreign policy challenge to energy security is the intensification of international efforts to implement climate policy and accelerate the transition to a "green economy".
  4. DMB 75
    DMB 75 April 8 2020 15: 16 New
    15
    low prices cause serious damage to the American oil industry.

    And to us what serious damage the low prices are inflicted by respected authors did not mention ..
    Trump has repeatedly stated that he does not doubt the successful outcome of negotiations with Moscow and Riad to reduce oil production.

    I think this is the case that, despite all the differences, a more or less satisfactory agreement will nevertheless be reached, since the current situation is disadvantageous for everyone ...
  5. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 8 2020 15: 22 New
    +6
    Trump has repeatedly stated that no doubt in success negotiations with Moscow and Riad to reduce oil production. So let's wait until Thursday.

    Last week they broadcast: “We will live until Monday (06.04/XNUMX)” ... Now - “we will wait until Thursday” ... laughing
    Interestingly, on Thursday it will be "before" or "after" the rain?
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 8 2020 15: 27 New
      +9
      Quote: ROSS 42
      "After" the rain?

      Gasoline rises regardless of BEFORE, or AFTER ...
      1. Vladimir B.
        Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 32 New
        17
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Gas is getting more expensive

        Our gasoline always rises in price, regardless of oil prices.
    2. Vladimir B.
      Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 31 New
      14
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Interestingly, on Thursday it will be "before" or "after" the rain?

      Instead of rain yes
      As a result, they can be postponed again to Monday.
  6. Lamata
    Lamata April 8 2020 15: 24 New
    +2
    Trump at least had his help, and not a kiddie on the box, with the expression, as you got already, I'm a slave in the galleys, my hands are sore.
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka April 8 2020 16: 45 New
      -3
      Quote: Lamata
      Trump at least helped his

      specifically to whom, how much, when? !!!!
      1. Lamata
        Lamata April 8 2020 17: 43 New
        -1
        Well, not to Medvedev or Golikova there, for those who have an income of less than 75 greens, not chatter, my sister got in Seattle from me.
        1. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka April 8 2020 18: 21 New
          +1
          specifically how much ?!
          1. Lamata
            Lamata April 8 2020 19: 13 New
            -1
            1150 dollars
            1. Barmaleyka
              Barmaleyka April 8 2020 19: 40 New
              -1
              and now compare with the costs if, to transfer to rubles, then this is equivalent to 4000-5000 rubles, that is, NOTHING, money spent without any result
              1. Lamata
                Lamata April 8 2020 20: 48 New
                +1
                yachting you are ours. 1150 greens - 5000 rubles? Where do you live, And yet, even if 5000 rubles, but they are, they were given, they helped, will you refuse 5000 rubles now?
                1. Barmaleyka
                  Barmaleyka April 8 2020 21: 11 New
                  -3
                  this stupid question speaks of your knowledge of economics
                  before asking him, take an interest in the term purchasing power, now you’ll refuse not to refuse, hardly anyone will refuse a freebie, the question is not whether there will be a return in such a freebie, you will not have enough for a week but at the same time the result on a national scale will not be and money will be spent
                  it’s like using fighter aircraft in the summer months of 41 years, the plane didn’t cover the plane here and the troops as a result didn’t cover it and they lost the plane, but they would put it together in a fist and look at least in one direction but did something
                  1. Lamata
                    Lamata April 8 2020 22: 36 New
                    0
                    Go to the store and buy, for the same 5000 rubles of food, just buy it, you don’t need it))))
                  2. Lamata
                    Lamata April 8 2020 22: 38 New
                    0
                    You give 5000 rubles to your grandmother, who needs it, Pliz. In a manly way.
                    1. Barmaleyka
                      Barmaleyka April 9 2020 07: 47 New
                      -1
                      once again, the benefit will be for a ruble and the costs for 100, it is impossible to argue on a state scale "You will give 5000 rubles to your grandmother"
  7. Cowbra
    Cowbra April 8 2020 15: 29 New
    -2
    The US president has NO leverage over TNCs! He can make ANY decisions - but Exxon Mobile or the same Chevron will send him to where he recently returned from there. as Bezos and his Amazon suggested paying taxes for two years.
    And oil prices returned right after it became clear. that the Saudis not only can’t double production, but it turned out to trump production of 9,8 million barrels per day (supposedly 16% of world exports), in fact KSA produced only 7,8 million barrels per day, of which 3,2 million more and spent for domestic needs. And that’s all.
    1. Octopus
      Octopus April 8 2020 17: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: Cowbra
      And oil prices are back

      Whatever?
    2. Vladimir B.
      Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 32 New
      14
      Quote: Cowbra
      The US president has NO leverage over TNCs!

      You're right. But financial tycoons have leverage over the US president. This means that in this case, Trump will voice their thoughts and decisions.
    3. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin April 10 2020 14: 48 New
      -1
      There are no direct levers, but indirect ones are enough
  8. parusnik
    parusnik April 8 2020 15: 34 New
    +3
    So let's wait until Thursday.
    .... Wait, not long left
  9. Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 8 2020 15: 36 New
    +3
    Yes, stump ash, loot is needed by all oligarchs and loot does not smell.
    Scared, now agree. Putin already agrees with 10 million reduction.

    But on all sites a shaft of articles about the cunning insidious Saudis ...
    The past shaft, as we bent them, has already evaporated ...
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka April 8 2020 16: 44 New
      -2
      Quote: Max1995
      Putin already agrees with 10 million reduction.

      Did he tell you personally?
      1. Vladimir B.
        Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 33 New
        12
        Quote: Barmaleyka
        Did he tell you personally?

        He personally reported this in an interview. Check out news sites with news in a few days.
        1. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka April 8 2020 18: 22 New
          -2
          link to the studio well quote
          1. Arlen
            Arlen April 8 2020 20: 08 New
            +9
            Quote: Barmaleyka
            link to the studio well quote

            Weak to look at news sites yourself? Or do you like to engage in provocations?
            Russia is ready to join forces and, together with other countries, to reduce oil production by about 10 million barrels. per day, President Vladimir Putin said on Friday, April 3, during a meeting with the heads of Russian oil companies, held in a videoconference mode.
            Read more at RBC:
            https://www.rbc.ru/economics/03/04/2020/5e8766099a794723a8097c72
            1. Barmaleyka
              Barmaleyka April 10 2020 13: 25 New
              -1
              Quote: Arlen
              Weak to look at news sites yourself? Or do you like to engage in provocations?

              you are engaged in provocations, develop your eyes and read WHAT GDP agrees
              Putin announced his readiness to cut oil production together with OPEC + and the USA

              Read more at RBC:
              https://www.rbc.ru/economics/03/04/2020/5e8766099a794723a8097c72
              1. Oleg Zorin
                Oleg Zorin April 10 2020 14: 50 New
                -2
                Do you seriously think that anyone is interested in what the GDP agrees with?
                1. Barmaleyka
                  Barmaleyka April 10 2020 16: 01 New
                  0
                  enough verbiage, read the topic of the dispute and yes I think interesting otherwise they would not have called him
    2. Vladimir B.
      Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 33 New
      14
      Quote: Max1995
      Scared, now agree.

      Definitely agree. No one needs cheap oil. Here is a little different. After this small oil war, will the parties subsequently be able to negotiate peacefully or only after the next oil wars?
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 April 9 2020 00: 51 New
        -1
        And where to get to that.
        Get out with Ukraine - sanctions, saykuii, provocations, but as trade began to grow, Putin: "You need to rejoice"
        The same with Endogan, with US, etc.
        Money does not smell.
  10. DPN
    DPN April 8 2020 15: 44 New
    +4
    In the photo, Trump showed everything in Russian, there is nothing to argue here.
    1. Lamata
      Lamata April 8 2020 15: 58 New
      +1
      That's why it is respected that in our opinion, in Brazilian))) and not like Clinton, Monica inserted a cigar))))
  11. EXPrompt
    EXPrompt April 8 2020 16: 06 New
    +8
    Vangyu - the 9th will not agree.
    The background is dumb.
    Until the tents sit at the negotiating table, and also will not reduce production, including, any transaction of trusteeship 2 + will not take place.
    And then the position of the Russian Federation is now to look at what will happen after the coronovirus with the oil market, who will die in the shatsh by the fall, and then conclude agreements. So we are not in a hurry. Listen to what they say will go, but the contract is unlikely.
    1. Vladimir B.
      Vladimir B. April 8 2020 17: 38 New
      14
      Quote: EXPrompt
      Vangyu - the 9th will not agree.

      Must agree. Such an oil price is not beneficial to anyone.
      Quote: EXPrompt
      And then the position of the Russian Federation is to look at what will happen after the coronovirus with the oil market

      It’s not that with oil, that in general with the economy it is not known what will happen. Based on this, I am sure that the parties will agree. Unless the meeting is rescheduled for Monday.
      1. EXPrompt
        EXPrompt April 8 2020 18: 20 New
        0
        Carefully study what the GDP says.
        He already said at OPEC2 + we agree, but if all the major oil-producing countries sit at the negotiating table. No one will reduce their production in order to save oil shale in the USA.
        Not in Russia, the train burns, but among the Saudis and the United States.
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion April 9 2020 15: 05 New
          -1
          Duc GDP, this fight is not necessary for nafig, it will suit any outcome, if it is beneficial to Russia. Will OPEC-2? For God's sake.
  12. EXPrompt
    EXPrompt April 8 2020 16: 10 New
    +5
    author...
    Here with this
    It’s a paradox, but even shale projects in the USA will certainly not be allowed to die. Is it worth explaining that the latest statement by Donald Trump sounded to the applause of the US oil lobby? In many respects, everything that we observe today is because the prospects for the extractive industries have become increasingly dubious with each passing year. Without any virus and without any pandemic.

    I categorically disagree .. can you explain the mechanism for saving planned unprofitable production at 50 dol-barrels, at 30-40 on which, in theory, oil will rise after the crisis. How do you see it for yourself?
  13. Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka April 8 2020 16: 43 New
    0
    well if this quote is correct
    Maybe we will do it, or maybe not

    then trump didn’t agree to anything yet, as usual he will get up a tweeter look and decide
  14. fif21
    fif21 April 8 2020 16: 49 New
    0
    Indices of the global economy go to minus. Domestic demand for fuel from oil is falling (restriction on movement ......) The only reasonable solution in this situation is to reduce production. If ALL oil-producing countries reduce production by 10-20% (cartel conspiracy), then prices will return to their previous values. If someone tries to grab privileges, then the agreement is not worth signing. I think they will not agree. Mattress workers and drovers of camels can be forced to reduce oil production only if the northern animal (scribe) shows them teeth. hi
    1. dirk182
      dirk182 April 8 2020 17: 02 New
      +1
      In theory, they must agree. Amid the raging coronavirus and the impending economic crisis, they need it. In order to softer enter the crisis and get out of it.
  15. smaug78
    smaug78 April 8 2020 16: 52 New
    +1
    Donald Trump also managed to declare that he did not make promises to reduce oil production by the United States - so he cannot do that. The USA is not Russia with the Saudis ...
  16. antique
    antique April 8 2020 16: 57 New
    0
    Although for us in Russia, with a largely self-sufficient economy, it is hardly worth looking at oil quotes for any reason.
    As for self-sufficiency, it’s very confident. For a country deprived of entire industries, not able to do much of what developed countries do, it has lost and wasted what it had, where even vaunted agriculture is 80% import-dependent and there is nothing else to do, as to CONSTANTLY watch oil quotes. For no other is given.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 9 2020 15: 03 New
      -1
      And in general, the world pays tribute to us, we ourselves do not produce anything.
  17. Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 8 2020 17: 32 New
    +1
    In war, as in war, you want to drink twice as much.
  18. cniza
    cniza April 8 2020 17: 34 New
    +1
    Indeed, in addition to the United States, by and large, Mexico and Brazil could not be drawn into it either. Now it seems to succeed.


    It is beneficial for everyone to agree.
    1. Peter is not the first
      Peter is not the first April 8 2020 18: 25 New
      0
      If you manage to make OPEC ++ organization from OPEC +, then it would be good.
      1. Marine engineer
        Marine engineer April 8 2020 21: 51 New
        +1
        Will not work.
  19. Grading
    Grading April 8 2020 18: 47 New
    +2
    Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak, who effectively slammed the door in OPEC negotiations for a month in March, seems to have a difficult week trying to save face on the international stage and find a way to present the outcome of the oil war as a victorious combination of the Kremlin.
    Saudi Arabia has taken an extremely tough stance against Russia when discussing a new deal to reduce production and demands that Russian oil leave the market more than Saudi.
    So far, no agreement has been reached - therefore, the negotiations in the format of a videoconference, originally scheduled for April 6, had to be postponed until Thursday, two sources in the delegations told TASS.
  20. rocket757
    rocket757 April 8 2020 18: 52 New
    +1
    Any dispute ends. Just like that or with a specific result for someone !!!
    Let's wait and see who drinks champagne and who picks "horse apples".
  21. Pandiurin
    Pandiurin April 8 2020 20: 04 New
    +3
    Quote: Mole
    States will not enter into the deal. That's why:
    1. I do not accept the statements of their President on faith.
    2. From the beginning of their shale, a drop in the ocean of their budget.
    3. They have eliminated the mortgage crisis. It costs a lot. The shale has that gravel for an elephant.
    4. Slurred position of Rosneft.


    In the United States, there seems to be a law directly prohibiting the participation of the federal government in cartel transactions (custody). This is the fifth point.

    However, those who traditionally supported Trump (Texas - traditional oil production and oil shale) suffer from a very low oil price.
    Something Trump must definitely do with this.
  22. Al Asad
    Al Asad April 8 2020 21: 54 New
    0
    Negotiate with those who think of themselves as "alpha and omega", "navel of the universe", "exclusive nation"
    Such to myself. Remind me how "exceptional" over the past 3 years have come out of everything that is possible?
  23. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn April 9 2020 08: 13 New
    -1
    Quote: from the news feeds 09.04.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX
    Saudis rushed to buy oil companies

    ... here is the answer to you, who launched the oil collapse and why.
  24. Roman123567
    Roman123567 April 9 2020 09: 46 New
    -2
    Because this is a market - this is supply and demand, ”Trump said, answering a question from journalists about whether he would ask American oil companies to reduce production.

    But not even a month has passed since the owner of the White House did not hide his satisfaction about low oil prices.


    And where is the contradiction ??
    He said everything correctly - the market ..
    Today the price is cheap - Baba Nyura did not go to milk the goat and stand in the market with milk, because there is no reason ..
    Tomorrow a cow will die at a neighbor, al also for what reason demand and price will increase - Baba Nyura will run the first at 5 in the morning with a bucket .. and fill this niche !!
    Well, who can say against this background that cheap milk is bad ??
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 9 2020 15: 02 New
      -1
      Bad to whom? Buyer, or Babe Nure? Moreover, the goat must be milked every day, it will not work to stop production.
      1. Roman123567
        Roman123567 April 9 2020 15: 27 New
        +1
        A shale goat just might not be milked ..
        And the buyer is definitely fine !! USA, by the way, is more a buyer ..
        Well, with regards to the contradictions - I have not heard what they are ..
    2. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin April 10 2020 14: 55 New
      -1
      That's about the goat. They turn out to be different goats. Some goats can be safely not milked, and nothing special will happen. And other goats die from this.
  25. EvilLion
    EvilLion April 9 2020 15: 00 New
    -1
    It is time to roll back the dollar to its legal 20-25 rubles.
    1. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin April 10 2020 14: 57 New
      -1
      A statement of cosmic proportions and cosmic stupidity.
  26. Alexander Zaitov
    Alexander Zaitov April 9 2020 19: 17 New
    -2
    A low oil price is not profitable for the Russian Federation, BUT giving the share of the United States with its non-competitiveness is more than ridiculous ... you need to agree ... the world is waiting for a crisis and we are only at the beginning ... soon they will wipe away with green papers ... because the main thing will be food ...
  27. Poor
    Poor April 9 2020 20: 09 New
    0
    Sorry for my pronons - but all this is garbage, the confrontation remained at the same level, we just decided to raise the price for a barrel, but the question is not in the price but in the place in the market laughing
  28. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 April 10 2020 01: 51 New
    +1
    Mishustin’s government doesn’t give a damn about Russian industry; it prefers to give dates from the state budget to foreign companies, rag shops and even the gaming business, they have not forgotten at number 76 one of the largest bookmakers with billions in turnover
    1. Ugolek
      Ugolek April 10 2020 05: 44 New
      +1

      Although for us in Russia, with a largely self-sufficient economy, it is hardly worth looking at oil quotes for any reason.


      Not an article, but a pearl on a pearl, at least this one mentioned above. It seems that the Komsomol guy wrote in patriotic frenzy and work-heroic itching. The joke is that NOBODY has agreed on ANYTHING. And the question is whether the United States will commit itself to lower oil production in at least some decent amount so that negotiations on a new one could start.
      As for the saying of the authors, this is just a laugh and nothing more. Brazenly lie in their article.
      1. Chaldon48
        Chaldon48 April 10 2020 09: 58 New
        0
        When did the USA go towards someone’s wishes if it did not feel the axis of obvious and quick gain?
  29. VicktorVR
    VicktorVR April 10 2020 10: 59 New
    -1
    The United States has a wedge everywhere. Low oil prices - their producers (those who invested in oil shale) will die, along with them banks and others who gave them money. High oil prices - all other producers howl, that resources are expensive, high cost, business unprofitable.
    If you print money - inflation, if you don’t print - bubbles will burst.
    1. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin April 10 2020 14: 25 New
      -1
      The oil industry (production, without refining) in the United States provides 1% of GDP. Once again: ONE. And this is slate + traditional mining methods. Even if the shale oil industry dies of the word at all, there will be no tragedy for the US economy. So the wedge is clearly not where you see it
      1. VicktorVR
        VicktorVR April 10 2020 17: 57 New
        0
        Trump was worried. He knows that the US GDP has not been growing for more than one year, and for every percentage one must fight. And how many debts will the "shale" not return?

        And he probably knows that the US GDP is considered very strange, taking into account any obvious trash. And if we calculate the real GDP, in natural products, which can be felt, it turns out that the "shale" is more than one percent.
  30. kriten
    kriten April 10 2020 11: 45 New
    +1
    We congratulate the brilliant strategists of the oil market (sechina and GDP), presented the US oil market, threw Russia and the Russians, for which, however, they received huge thanks to Trump. The owner is satisfied and this is good.
  31. Oleg Zorin
    Oleg Zorin April 10 2020 14: 21 New
    -1
    I was especially impressed by the passage about "a self-sufficient economy in many respects." I didn't know any countries with a "self-sufficient" economy. Thank you enlightened. it would be useful to remind the authors that the decisions of the Opecs ++ have not yet been adopted. There is still a meeting of energy ministers and a final meeting with the adoption of final decisions ahead. How it will turn out - only God knows. To add the problems of SP-2 and a pipe-laying vessel is generally superfluous, the topic is so vast and ambiguous that it clearly deserves more than a couple of casually thrown lines. In a word, an empty article, worthless.
  32. itis
    itis April 14 2020 00: 39 New
    0
    I didn’t read comments, just an article. It’s important (for the future of the country) to see your hearth, no matter how regrettable it is to write. Many countries after the Second World War realized it, tacked along with it, seemingly indescribable, and then changed it. Yes, Russia lost the situation ( Yes, created by others at the game table) but not the first time! without panic. Sometimes, in order to win the war, you can and must lose the battle.
    1. agond
      agond April 27 2020 21: 35 New
      0
      Quote: Oleg Zorin
      I didn't know any countries with a "self-sufficient" economy.

      Any developed state should strive to be sovereign and self-sufficient, like any living organism (if it is not parasitic), you should not be afraid of the scarecrow of self-isolation, it can even be useful for the country, people are born, including for the realization of themselves in work for themselves on your own land, and not for the blunt imitation and copying of someone else's from a foreign land, you need to respect yourself at least a little ..
      And according to the sanctions, it’s high time to announce to the population a certain list of goods and products that will not be imported from outside in the next half century, so that we can decide whether we will start to make them ourselves or we refuse them, as unnecessary. that to how they are superfluous. By the way, the mass of superfluous in the world is very large and many of them are not being brought to us, often these are disposable things that are in the trash and not on the counter.