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The Western media report versions of the reasons for the fall in oil prices and the Saudi "ultimatum" to Moscow

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The French edition of La Tribune decided to explain to its readers why there were problems in the global energy market. The author of the “explanation” was journalist Jerome Maren. He “laid out” the situation in several questions and answers. What specific questions and answers are we talking about?


1 Question: Why did oil prices collapse from 64 to 22 dollars per barrel in a short time?

Mr. Maren is deeply convinced that all this happened due to coronavirus and Russia. I immediately recall the famous tirade of Barack Obama, who in his presidency declared "three world threats - Ebola, Russia and ISIS (prohibited in the Russian Federation)."

From La Tribune:

The fall in oil prices is also associated with Russia's refusal to reduce production at the OPEC + meeting. Then an immediate response from Saudi Arabia followed.

It is strange that the author did not remember the United States, which initially held the position not to support the decline in production.

2 Question: Why did Russia refuse to reduce oil production?

Jerome Maren:

It is believed that maintaining low prices could inflict a fatal blow on the American shale, a fragile sector that needs a barrel no cheaper than $ 50 to make a profit.

3 Question: Why did Saudi Arabia respond so sharply?

An author at La Tribune reports that Riyadh's goal, it turns out, is to "preserve the OPEC + deal."

4 Question: Does Russia and Saudi Arabia have something to lose?

The author believes that Saudi Arabia is in a better position, since the cost of production there is $ 2,8 per barrel, and in Russia it reaches $ 20. At the same time, the French observer overlooks an important detail: the price of oil is formed not only from the price of its physical production, but also from the price of transportation. And here, Russia already has significantly more advantages compared to Saudi Arabia due to the presence of an extensive network of pipelines both domestically and in the “export” direction.

From the material:

These manufacturers still will not be able to resist for a long time. Both countries have financial reserves, but they are not inexhaustible.

5 Question: Why will Riyadh and Moscow negotiate again?

In a French newspaper, it is stated that these negotiations will take place for the reason that Russia and Saudi Arabia are not interested in a long-term confrontation, which can only aggravate the economic situation throughout the world.

As a result, the author notes that US President Donald Trump, who is “ready to mediate,” intervened.

Against this background, statements appeared about the allegedly Saudi ultimatum to Moscow. Western media say that Riyadh allegedly insists that Russia reduce production more than other participants in the OPEC + deal. But the ultimatum implies “punitive measures” in case of refusal. If so, then what kind of “punitive measures” is Riyadh ready to introduce: to increase production volumes again, bringing down oil, and at the same time “burning off” its own reserves?
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 7 2020 12: 31 New
    -7
    But the ultimatum implies “punitive measures” in case of refusal. If so, then what kind of “punitive measures” is Riyadh ready to introduce: to increase production volumes again, bringing down oil, and at the same time “burning off” its own reserves?
    At the same time, dumping the US, a competitor in the market. The budget of Riyadh is made up at the rate of $ 50 per barrel, they will simply fly into the pipe themselves. And we will endure, not the first time. request
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta April 7 2020 12: 55 New
      14
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      At the same time, dumping the US, a competitor in the market. The budget of Riyadh is made up at the rate of $ 50 per barrel, they will simply fly into the pipe themselves. And we will endure, not the first time

      Why stupid? After all, it is well known that the Saudis are a vassal of the United States, with what fright will they spoil their master?
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      And we will endure, not the first time.

      Tired of enduring mediocrity, incompetence, arrogance and greed of intergrown oligarch-compradors and officials.
      1. mole
        mole April 7 2020 13: 13 New
        0
        You are absolutely RIGHT, especially in the last paragraph. Rosneft will now use Leontyev's division in every possible way in order to explain to us that the role of Rosneft in this "boil" is minimal.
        Prior to the key meeting of OPEC +, the media reported that the opportunities for oil production were increased. Here is greed and incompetence and a stupid desire to show iron balls ruined.
        Incompetent, but trusted friends will still drive!
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta April 7 2020 13: 33 New
          14
          Quote: Mole
          Here is greed and incompetence and a stupid desire to show iron balls ruined.
          Incompetent, but trusted friends will still drive!

          Against this background, an endless total lie has already hardened, which the Saudis easily refuted by the statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, they have already laid out this speech at the VO, after which the President of the Russian Federation has already agreed to a reduction in production, but it’s already clear how the alignment will look and who will dictate it. It will look like this with a total reduction of 10 million, OPEC will reduce its 5 and require about 5 from the Russian Federation. belay
          And then our excellent government distinguished itself by issuing a decree banning the import of fuel and lubricants !!! this is so that cheap gasoline does not flood in the Russian Federation. Are we again hostage or captive?
          1. mole
            mole April 7 2020 13: 44 New
            +4
            "Are we again hostages or captives?"
            Nope, on self-isolation ...
            1. Chervonny
              Chervonny April 7 2020 15: 49 New
              18
              Quote: Mole
              on self-isolation ...

              self-isolation is not eternal. and the problems in the capitalist economy are not self-isolating anywhere.
          2. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 April 7 2020 13: 59 New
            +6
            he did not agree but suggested that the most important thing for all players, without exception. do not turn words to please your convictions.
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta April 7 2020 14: 11 New
              +8
              Quote: carstorm 11
              he did not agree but suggested

              I know it’s useless for you to prove and explain, but still, without regard to beliefs, I want to say that after ultimatums there are no offers !!!
              And the statement of the Saudi Foreign Ministry is a real ultimatum, moreover, with a dunk into the lies.
              Read it! https://www.finanz.ru/novosti/birzhevyye-tovary/saudovskaya-araviya-obvinila-putina-vo-lzhi-i-perenesla-peregovory-opek +-1029065209
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 April 7 2020 14: 30 New
                -1
                and what do I say of the Saudis? should I believe them more than ours?))) you're funny) these games are quite common when negotiations are underway. and there’s nothing special about them. it was the Saudis who created a tantrum when we simply did not want to cut back on production. Did Russia threaten anyone? no dumping with prices? no. all this was done by the Saudis. there the number was 500 at all, and suddenly now they agree to reduce as much as 3.5) well, they would have reduced it at their own expense and there would have been no such conflict. all that happened is a tantrum of pure water. and everyone understands whose. the slate has a much stronger impact on the Saudis than on us. it’s not us who brought the company to IPO, but the Saudis, etc. etc. etc. you just don’t want to understand only the one thing that is beneficial for Russia in this situation is a deal involving the states. otherwise, the more we reduce the more market they capture. I repeat, while we were in the transaction, the guardianship of the states filled everything with their product that was being reduced. and for a couple of years while we were freezing projects ahead of us in the market. a few more years of such dynamics, and even if prices were high revenues would still fall.
                1. Malyuta
                  Malyuta April 7 2020 14: 47 New
                  +8
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  you are funny)

                  Yeah, Lulu neighing, but I don’t wear yellow spacesuits laughing
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  and what do I say of the Saudis? should I trust them more than ours?)))

                  Pralna wassat "our" they are completely "honest" tongue BUT
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 April 7 2020 15: 17 New
                    -1
                    Well, okay . as usual essentially as usual nothing. are you 10 years old or something? video and pictures of how a child spread it to God. if you like to believe in a country that is waging a trade war against you and refer to its sources, then this is your business.
                    1. Overlock
                      Overlock April 7 2020 17: 52 New
                      +9
                      Quote: carstorm 11
                      if you like to believe the country

                      need to believe the truth! How can you believe the power that threw the whole country with retirement?
                      1. kostik-oz
                        kostik-oz April 9 2020 12: 15 New
                        0
                        Bravo!!! How is Dmitry Sest this dish?
                    2. Malyuta
                      Malyuta April 7 2020 21: 41 New
                      10
                      Quote: carstorm 11
                      you like to believe a country that wages a trade war against you

                      Listen, there’s no need to connect me with this power, I have been against it since I was 91 and have already spoken out about this.
                      The second moment, these people treacherously robbed me of the country in which I was born, then appropriated all its riches, they ravaged and plundered everything that they could and even more, and now they have come not only for our lives, but also for the future of our children. I am against. Therefore, we are unlikely to find a common language, for me all theirs and your arguments will remain forever
                      threw up thimbles from the Belorussky railway station, rolled the St. Petersburg gateways and hypocritical goons of the Perestroika-Komsomol asset. hi
                2. Cheerock
                  Cheerock April 7 2020 15: 13 New
                  +1
                  Absolutely right. Surprising cons in evaluating comments.
                3. orionvitt
                  orionvitt April 7 2020 15: 28 New
                  -2
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  slate has a much stronger impact on the Saudis than on us, etc. etc. etc.

                  Forgot to mention the "unknown Houthi drones", which with one small blow, albeit not for long, made the Saudis, in their hot climate, break out in a cold sweat. So, on occasion, it is quite possible to withdraw the Saudis from the game, and Iran will only be happy.
                  1. Overlock
                    Overlock April 7 2020 17: 54 New
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                    Quote: orionvitt
                    So on occasion, it’s quite possible to get the Saudis out of the game, and Iran will be only too happy.

                    it was against people with such thoughts that the Saudis invited the States to protect their country
                4. Gene84
                  Gene84 April 7 2020 15: 37 New
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                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  and what do I say of the Saudis? should I trust them more than ours?

                  no one can believe in politics. it is an axiom.
                5. Overlock
                  Overlock April 7 2020 17: 51 New
                  11
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  the only thing that benefits Russia in this situation is a deal involving the states

                  How so, a deal with the Enemy? America already agree? They want sanctions to impose on us for oil prices, and you offer a deal to her. Maybe that's why airplanes with medical equipment instead of Irkutsk flew to America?
              2. alipes
                alipes April 7 2020 17: 19 New
                +4
                I read your link, not a dunk, put a minus.
              3. Blondy
                Blondy April 9 2020 07: 13 New
                -1
                Quote: Malyuta
                And the statement of the Saudi Foreign Ministry is a real ultimatum, moreover, with a dunk into the lies.
                Read it! https://www.finanz.ru/novosti/birzhevyye-tovary/saudovskaya-araviya-obvinila-putina-vo-lzhi-i-perenesla-peregovory-opek+-1029065209

                Well, I read it. As a woman I could clearly see the female logic, which the Saudis took advantage of in their juggling: since Russia refused the proposed reduction, it means Russia is to blame (for everything), but according to normal logic, the main thing here is not the reduction itself (but at least the increment), but the proportion of complicity in this perturbation. According to the proposed proportion, Russia should be the main patient - hence the refusal of complicity. Putin revealed the unnamed essence of the result of this perturbation, and the Arabs wanted to be purely feminine - so that everyone would see that the man (in this case Russia) was to blame for everything.
                1. atalef
                  atalef April 9 2020 07: 19 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Blondy
                  As a woman I could clearly see the female logic, which the Saudis took advantage of in their distortion: since Russia refused the proposed reduction, it means Russia is to blame

                  In my opinion there is nothing babskoy here. on the contrary pulled absolutely brutal.
                  Quote: Blondy
                  and according to normal logic, the main thing here is not the reduction itself (or even the increment) but the proportion of complicity in this perturbation.

                  for the market proportions do not play a role - the volume of reduction plays. and who is how much request
                  Quote: Blondy
                  According to the proposed proportion, Russia was to be the main patient - hence the refusal of complicity

                  offered 0.5 million Now Russia is ready for 1.5 - managers rule.
                  Quote: Blondy
                  And the Arabs wanted purely feminine - so that everyone would see that the man (in the role of the man in this bitch Russia) is to blame for everything.

                  it’s your purely feminine logic, and what Saudia did was by her actions made Russia return to the negotiating table, on all fours. and with a counter proposal for a much larger reduction.
                  1. Blondy
                    Blondy April 9 2020 07: 42 New
                    0
                    Again, the main thing here is preportion - and how much was Russia supposed to shrink to others? Regarding "to force" - even immediately after the breakdown of the negotiations, Novak said in a soft manner that we would probably return to the negotiations and, probably, sometime in April - so everything was calculated in advance. Another thing is about the benefits of Russia: it turns out that Russia is Sechin.
                    1. Blondy
                      Blondy April 10 2020 07: 19 New
                      0
                      Well, here, Purely feminine: "I said - the main proportion." Good "all fours" on which Russia crawled - 4 million reductions from the Saudis in absolute terms. Ato
                      Quote: atalef
                      Now Russia is ready for 1.5 - managers rule.
          3. MMX
            MMX April 7 2020 14: 38 New
            +1
            Quote: Malyuta

            And then our excellent government distinguished itself by issuing a decree banning the import of fuel and lubricants !!! this is so that cheap gasoline does not flood in the Russian Federation. Are we again hostage or captive?


            Can I link to the decree?
            1. Gene84
              Gene84 April 7 2020 15: 27 New
              20
              until the government adopted this decision, but yesterday it was announced that Russia would impose a ban on the import of cheap gasoline.
              news links
              https://iz.ru/996593/video/v-rossii-vvedut-zapret-na-import-deshevogo-benzina

              https://www.rbc.ru/business/06/04/2020/5e8b4bf89a794707fb0b7993
              1. MMX
                MMX April 7 2020 16: 34 New
                -8
                Quote: Gene84
                until the government adopted this decision, but yesterday it was announced that Russia would impose a ban on the import of cheap gasoline.
                news links
                https://iz.ru/996593/video/v-rossii-vvedut-zapret-na-import-deshevogo-benzina

                https://www.rbc.ru/business/06/04/2020/5e8b4bf89a794707fb0b7993


                In other words, there is no such regulation.
                Clear.
            2. Overlock
              Overlock April 7 2020 17: 56 New
              12
              Quote: MMX
              Can I link to the decree?


              MOSCOW, April 6. / TASS /. The Russian government has decided to temporarily ban the import of petroleum products from abroad to prevent the import of cheap gasoline into the domestic market. This was announced on Monday by RBC with reference to a participant in the fuel market, the information was also confirmed by three federal officials.
              1. MMX
                MMX April 7 2020 20: 04 New
                0
                Quote: Overlock
                Quote: MMX
                Can I link to the decree?


                MOSCOW, April 6. / TASS /. The Russian government has decided to temporarily ban the import of petroleum products from abroad to prevent the import of cheap gasoline into the domestic market. This was announced on Monday by RBC with reference to a participant in the fuel market, the information was also confirmed by three federal officials.


                Kindly, a link to the RESOLUTION.
          4. vadim dok
            vadim dok April 7 2020 15: 29 New
            +5
            No! They demand from the Russian Federation "only" 3 million barrels! Only this is impossible for the Russian Federation! 11,5 million - 4,5 million (own needs of the Russian Federation) -3,0 million (reduction) = 4,5 million exports! , but INCREDIBLY little for the Russian Federation. In this case, the Russian Federation is VERY MUCH "moved" in the markets! Today the ACTUAL price of URALS in Novorossiysk costs $ 19,5. Do not confuse with the speculative price on the stock exchange!
            1. Overlock
              Overlock April 7 2020 17: 59 New
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              Quote: vadim dok
              No! From the Russian Federation they demand "only" 3 million barrels!

              and in the original version, only 500000 barrels. Rates are rising!
              1. vadim dok
                vadim dok April 7 2020 18: 38 New
                +2
                It is necessary to compensate for the "overhang" of excess oil demand of 10,0 million barrels per day. That is why they divide up 3,0 million RF and CA, the rest 4,0 million. According to US law, you cannot enter into cartel agreements!
          5. Kisa
            Kisa April 7 2020 17: 07 New
            +4
            the main criterion in the new realities will be how long the people will be on self-isolation in the Russian Federation and among the Arabs and the number of unemployed people and who will spend the accumulated fat faster because when the oil started a war with custody there was a slightly different reality ....
          6. NordUral
            NordUral April 7 2020 18: 13 New
            0
            We have long been at the "fifth point".
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 7 2020 17: 45 New
          12
          Quote: Mole
          Leontief Division

          he and his boss already lit up
          “Now we will show them! At the current price, they are actively investing in their shale oil, but its production at a price below $ 40 is hardly advisable, ”says The Bell to Sechin.

          Rosneft spokesman Mikhail Leontyev: The deal with OPEC is disadvantageous for Russia because "all oil volumes that were retired as a result of the repeated extension of the OPEC + agreement were completely and quickly replaced by volumes of American shale oil on the world market."
          That’s it.
    2. Voyager
      Voyager April 7 2020 12: 56 New
      +1
      Really? Let me remind you that the "stabilization fund", which is going to be used in case of prolonged low oil prices, was formed for completely different purposes, namely to support the economy in the coming financial crisis, which will be much more powerful than 2008.
      1. Avior
        Avior April 7 2020 14: 43 New
        +4
        Formally, there is no Stabilization Fund since 2018, but there are
        The National Welfare Fund of Russia (NWF), the Russian state reserve fund, is part of the long-term pension mechanism of citizens of the Russian Federation
      2. Gene84
        Gene84 April 7 2020 15: 29 New
        16
        The stabilization fund has long been gone. There is the NWF of Russia.
        NWF of Russia. The Russian State Reserve Fund is part of the long-term pension mechanism of citizens of the Russian Federation. NWF is formed at the expense of additional federal budget revenues from the oil and gas complex and revenues from own funds management.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 7 2020 18: 02 New
          10
          Quote: Gene84
          Russian State Reserve Fund

          already finances victims - the USA, France, Germany and others

          we don’t have enough money, so ... hold on
    3. Mastodon
      Mastodon April 7 2020 12: 58 New
      10
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      At the same time, dumping the US, a competitor in the market. The budget of Riyadh is made up at the rate of $ 50 per barrel, they will simply fly into the pipe themselves. And we will endure, not the first time.

      Of course you are right hi ..Well, the United States will not fly into the pipe, they have a lot of their oil normally mothballed, and shale is like that .. And most importantly, the world currency printing press, which has already become a soap bubble, but Moscow was not built right away as we say in Russia)))
      Here, with this drop in oil prices and then coronovirus, they want to dump Russia with China into an economic stupor .. But so far the opposite has turned out wink
      We and China were preparing for this and even for a more abrupt development of events .. So, "gentlemen" you are again in flight ..
      1. Leonid Anatolevich
        Leonid Anatolevich April 7 2020 13: 10 New
        -28
        Quote: Mastodon
        We and China were preparing for this and even more abruptly.

        You and China will sit on the fifth spot in six months, provided that the current dynamics of the spread of the epidemic remain. Moreover, in China they decided to pretend that strangers spread the coronavirus, and not the Central Committee of their party of crooks and thieves.
        1. Mastodon
          Mastodon April 7 2020 13: 22 New
          +8
          Quote: Leonid Anatolievich
          You and China will sit on the fifth spot in six months, provided that the current dynamics of the spread of the epidemic remain.

          Well, while the United States is sitting on the fifth point and even troops are being brought into New York .. And this pandemic, the verification of all state services is excellent, while it’s going well, we reveal a lot of gaps in the structures of power and business (most greyhounds))) .. It’s immediately obvious. what and how will be in a future more serious test ..
          The ability to concentrate in complex emergencies is the main thing in the survival of the country and nation hi
          Quote: Leonid Anatolyevich
          Moreover, in China they decided to pretend that strangers spread the coronavirus, and not the Central Committee of their party of crooks and thieves.

          The familiar slogan of the protesters .. Well, let's see, six months later !!!
          And let's see who created this virus and launched it in China .. work is underway!
        2. Chervonny
          Chervonny April 7 2020 15: 51 New
          20
          Quote: Leonid Anatolievich
          in China, they decided to pretend that coronavirus was spread by outsiders, not the Central Committee of their party of crooks and thieves.

          Of course, I don’t like China very much ... But to write such a blizzard is too much ...
      2. Malyuta
        Malyuta April 7 2020 13: 44 New
        +6
        Quote: Mastodon
        We and China were preparing for this and even for a more abrupt development of events.

        Do you yourself believe that? Or are you trying to instill optimism in us for money? Or is there another option that you write from abroad, where all our officials and bourgeoisie wake up with a special love for their homeland and sparkling patriotism, which directly pours oil on us from their lips (lips or other places) on their four-day shift camps. .
        1. Hartakolo12
          Hartakolo12 April 7 2020 14: 21 New
          -5
          If you put an ultimatum. Die worthily or fall on your knees and ask for mercy. But at the same time save life. What will you choose?
          1. Horon
            Horon April 7 2020 15: 02 New
            -8
            It already stands in the position of "cancer" because, judging by the constant comments and their style, either a "non-brother" from a neighboring country, or their local co-religionist. I doubt that it is a troll, rather a provocateur camouflaged as a Stalinist communist. There have been a lot of such people lately, and some "communists" by their rantings have long merged with the ultra-right liberals. When the left opposition cannot offer anything real to its electorate, it merges with the right. Here at VO it became the norm.
            PS Now many "generals" will start to minus me! lol
            1. NordUral
              NordUral April 7 2020 18: 17 New
              +2
              far right liberals
              interesting combination.
    4. donavi49
      donavi49 April 7 2020 14: 57 New
      11
      The budget of Riyadh is made up at the rate of $ 50 per barrel, they will simply fly into the pipe themselves. And we will endure, not the first time.


      The budget for 2020 at KSA is $ 272 billion.

      Current reserves of KSA - $ 501.8 billion. Plus the ability to lend. Plus the ability to cut back on appetites by cutting down on a number of construction and image-building programs. By type - steeper / higher / harder than in the UAE / China.

      In general, they will be able to hard dump 5 years. wink
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT April 7 2020 16: 48 New
        -2
        Sorry, what will they eat these 5 years ???
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 April 7 2020 17: 03 New
          +3
          501,8 billion reserve fund today wink .

          They have a penny price of oil (that is, even a reference level of 18-20 is not at a loss). They have quite a few other areas of income for themselves, while the same Sabik manages money, larger than the budgets of many countries, including European ones. And he has low oil prices, even a plus.

          If the budget is not cut very much, then they will live on a pillow for 5 years. If you introduce real austerity, cut the same military budget, they spend on the army - 78 billion, this is more than Russia and less than just China and the United States. Cut different projects of image character, level so that the coolest in the world, bite the Chinese and the emirates. Leave only profitable or giving places in the long term, then you can stretch the pillow for 7-8 years.
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 7 2020 18: 11 New
          13
          Quote: JonnyT
          Sorry, what will they eat these 5 years ???

          Quote: donavi49
          The budget for 2020 at KSA is $ 272 billion.
          Current reserves of KSA - $ 501.8 billion.

          and the population is 33 million
          1. JonnyT
            JonnyT April 8 2020 08: 12 New
            0
            And all 33 million will eat colored paper, well, or sand, washing it all down with penny oil
      2. WIKI
        WIKI April 7 2020 17: 06 New
        +3
        Quote: donavi49
        Current reserves of KSA - $ 501.8 billion.

        If we take into account the fact that their population is 33 million people, then the price of this fund will increase 4 times.
    5. Gene84
      Gene84 April 7 2020 15: 36 New
      18
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      At the same time, dumping the US, a competitor in the market

      do not wishful thinking. they do not dump them.
    6. Overlock
      Overlock April 7 2020 17: 39 New
      13
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      At the same time, dumping the US, a competitor in the market. The budget of Riyadh is made up at the rate of $ 50 per barrel, they will simply fly into the pipe themselves. And we will endure, not the first time.

      1. USA and CA will find a common language. For example, SA plans to buy new weapons from the US
      2. The gold and foreign exchange reserves of the Russian Federation and the CA are approximately the same, but the population is significantly different - the SA is 34 million in the Russian Federation - 146 million. Therefore, we have much worse per capita.
      In addition, Salman forced his rich to invest in the budget and reduced all business projects without touching the middle class and the poor.
      In Russia, on the contrary, the rich received subsidies, and the rest received a donut hole.
      So you can endure for a long time, just waiting for what?
  2. Tank hard
    Tank hard April 7 2020 12: 33 New
    +9
    It is time to understand that the days when it was possible to speak ultimatum with Russia have already passed. hi
    1. Oyo Sarkazmi
      Oyo Sarkazmi April 7 2020 12: 49 New
      -6
      But in France and the USA they read completely different newspapers. Where crowds of hungry (from sanctions) Russians with atomic bombs in carts roam the ruined cities, they were afraid of Schaub.
      1. mole
        mole April 7 2020 13: 04 New
        0
        I doubt it! It is unlikely that EVERYTHING in France is poor.
        One minus mine.
        1. Oyo Sarkazmi
          Oyo Sarkazmi April 7 2020 14: 54 New
          +2
          You see, in the West, the media is private. And the journalist is obliged to broadcast the views of the owner to the public.
          The owner said - the Donbass was occupied by the Russians, the editor of the New York Times sent a journalist to Ukraine, he climbed the "front" on both sides, and wrote - there are no Russian troops, local aborigines are fighting. The editor-in-chief also published the article. A week later, the New York Times had a different editor-in-chief, and the journalist left for Utah.
          This is not a Politburo decision for you, here is freedom ... of the master over the workers.
          And there will be no minuses from me. Generally. request
          1. mole
            mole April 7 2020 15: 02 New
            +4
            But I honestly admit. I'm not going to Utah.
            Thank you for telling us about the current realities. About how the hand washes! But technologies of such "washing" come to Us like a boomerang!
          2. indy424
            indy424 April 9 2020 12: 18 New
            0
            can you name the correspondent who left for Utah?
            1. Oyo Sarkazmi
              Oyo Sarkazmi April 9 2020 17: 14 New
              -1
              The name of the correspondent is Robert Perry, the name of the editor is Jill Abramson.
              I had to shovel the news right up to the 14th year.
  3. Nuclear_winter
    Nuclear_winter April 7 2020 12: 36 New
    10
    I understand the collapse of the American
    shale oil industry is delayed yet?
    1. Oyo Sarkazmi
      Oyo Sarkazmi April 7 2020 12: 51 New
      +3
      And will not take place. Companies will go bankrupt, change hands, banks will receive credit insurance, and oil will continue to be pumped from free wells.
    2. mole
      mole April 7 2020 13: 02 New
      0
      Delayed. Just like with Ukraine. The topic of the shale industry is Rosneft’s lucrative justification for its ill-conceived actions. T.N. PR.
      The US mortgage crisis has been resolved. Other scales!
      Princes will be kept afloat if they don’t go across.
      Where is Rosneft going to be? Without support?
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 April 7 2020 14: 03 New
        +2
        what is not thought out in their actions? have you seen the dynamics of state oil exports in recent years? the more we reduce the more market they capture. in fact, there was no decline, for the states filled all this right there. and from scratch they practically overtook us in export. but the market did not grow at such a pace. while we were reduced without states in the contract, we were simply squeezed out of the markets, you already understand.
        1. mole
          mole April 7 2020 14: 15 New
          +1
          "and practically overtook us in export from scratch"
          I think this phrase is key. It means only one thing: they have competent processes that rule! Unable to, collect the box, go to the labor exchange.
          And we have?
          Showed! And in the rollback ...
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 April 7 2020 14: 33 New
            0
            this means only one reduction deal is only possible when states are participating in it. and ours quite openly showed it.
            1. WIKI
              WIKI April 7 2020 17: 13 New
              +2
              Quote: carstorm 11
              this means only one reduction deal is only possible when states are participating in it. and ours quite openly showed it.

              If your export of goods is less than import, then I don’t understand why to reduce our own production. Which would be even more dependent on imports? Whose place was taken by America when its own production does not cover domestic needs. A showdown is likely to be between the Saudis and Russia. https://tass.ru/ekonomika/7836185
        2. mole
          mole April 7 2020 14: 35 New
          +2
          "just squeezed out of the markets, understand ..."
          I understand, but I do not steer Rosneft, explain to the most intelligent, most intelligent and most intelligent! Which Rosneft heads!
          And then, following your logic, if we are opposed, then the paws to the top? NO!
          But not the same. So far, everything is going well. I’m in place, but as soon as I could: We were kind of humiliated, I was squeezed out from everywhere and we pressed to give the last fight!
          This is not a strategy or tactic; it is called differently!
          At the same time, when they began to humiliate, I am sure that the Chief in RN himself had an ace up his sleeve, such as a sharpie: the people of Russia will support the desire to finish the vile slate and princes without regard to the family budget! At the expense of Russian households, we will win, add prices at gas stations, levy taxes, increase deductions, cut sheep shortened, and remove fat from them !?
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 April 7 2020 14: 48 New
            -2
            Yes there were no fights. we just refused the new conditions but agreed to work on the old. and then the Saudis suffered. immediately announced a price reduction. started dumping the market. not we started it all. we just declined the offer. and that’s it.
            1. mole
              mole April 7 2020 14: 51 New
              0
              Who is to blame?
              At first, the prerequisites for this situation were created by our own "competent actions".
              In this case, the award found a hero.
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 April 7 2020 15: 19 New
                -3
                what are the prerequisites? what are you talking about? we were in an ordinary contract and simply refused its new conditions. which are not profitable for us, that's all. nothing more. and refused only for one reason, we are cutting back and the states fill it with pleasure. we are losing markets. nobody else ever said anything else.
          2. Oyo Sarkazmi
            Oyo Sarkazmi April 7 2020 15: 08 New
            +2
            Quote: Mole
            And then, following your logic, if we are opposed, then the paws to the top?

            Only this is not opposition, but the use of us in the most indecent form. Well, like Yeltsin and Sakhalin in 1994 - here, American guys, get an island for you, get it, and share it fairly! Well, the sahibs correctly understand justice - the oil itself, the broken island - to the Indians.
            Now in the world there are 3 largest oil producers, not that one, two cannot voluntarily reduce production. Only to all three.
            1. mole
              mole April 7 2020 15: 23 New
              0
              "Use in the most indecent form"
              So why does this happen from time to time?
              1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                Oyo Sarkazmi April 7 2020 21: 49 New
                0
                The ambush for the Americans is that they were kicked out in 2008. When the US warmly approved the assassination of UN peacekeepers and condemned the end of the genocide. And then Tolya and Vova said "Uh! Something is wrong." And they began to repair the army.
                Now Russian interests are increasingly at odds with American interests. I would even say that for half a year, oil at 20 is very beneficial for us, since Obama's PMC (which is ISIS) will cease to be profitable.
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      2. Overlock
        Overlock April 7 2020 18: 12 New
        11
        Quote: Mole
        Where is Rosneft going to be? Without support?

        The assets of Rosneft in Venezuela were bought by the state of Russia. So it’s not worth worrying about Sechin
        1. mole
          mole April 7 2020 18: 20 New
          +2
          Well, for whom, and for the head of Rosneft, I am ABSOLUTELY calm!
          Something inside tells. Probably a tradition or already a reflex !? wink
    3. Gene84
      Gene84 April 7 2020 15: 34 New
      21
      Quote: Nuclear_winter
      the collapse of the American
      shale oil industry is delayed yet?

      there will be no collapse of the shale oil industry, for Americans this is a very profitable business.
      1. mole
        mole April 7 2020 18: 27 New
        0
        You are absolutely right: there will be no collapse of shale.
        I don’t know what is beneficial for the Americans, but it’s definitely not for us. Because We will pay for fuel and lubricants! Especially sowing on the nose. Everyone draws conclusions.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 7 2020 12: 38 New
    13
    The Frenchman explained to his readers that the culprit, as always, is Russia. She (Russia) refused the deal with the Saudis, she insidiously planned to bring down the American shale, and at the same time gut the reserves of the SA. I did not forget to mention Trump as an "overseer" and a sort of "arbitrator". Bottom line: the Saudis are courageous people, because. did not succumb to Moscow's blackmail and even put forward an "ultimatum", and the United States, as always, is a peacemaker and a kind uncle who is worried about the world economy. Jerome Maren, isn't it disgusting yourself?
    1. Gost2012
      Gost2012 April 7 2020 12: 49 New
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The Frenchman explained to his readers that the culprit, as always, is Russia. She (Russia) refused the deal with the Saudis, she insidiously planned to bring down the American shale, and at the same time gut the reserves of the SA. I did not forget to mention Trump as an "overseer" and a sort of "arbitrator". Bottom line: the Saudis are courageous people, because. did not succumb to Moscow's blackmail and even put forward an "ultimatum", and the United States, as always, is a peacemaker and a kind uncle who is worried about the world economy. Jerome Maren, isn't it disgusting yourself?

      French kiss in amerskoy Wed .. ku
    2. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz April 7 2020 12: 50 New
      +6
      Why will he suddenly become disgusted? The fee is in your pocket already.
    3. Oyo Sarkazmi
      Oyo Sarkazmi April 7 2020 12: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Jerome Maren, isn’t it yourself disgusting?

      What do you want from a good Indian who works for an Irish mafia?
    4. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 April 7 2020 13: 25 New
      -1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      I did not forget to mention Trump as an "overseer" and a sort of "arbitrator".

      Yeah. Trump will come - he will restore order.
  5. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 April 7 2020 12: 38 New
    +8
    it would be necessary for the Houthis .. to organize "humanitarian" convoys.
  6. iouris
    iouris April 7 2020 12: 45 New
    0
    "The violinist is not needed - I have skatapulated him!" ("Kin-Dza-Dza!")
  7. Leonid Anatolevich
    Leonid Anatolevich April 7 2020 12: 45 New
    -2
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    At the same time, dumping the US, a competitor in the market

    US practically independent of oil prices
    1. Gost2012
      Gost2012 April 7 2020 12: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: Leonid Anatolyevich
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      At the same time, dumping the US, a competitor in the market

      US practically independent of oil prices

      there is no one in this world who would be completely, or "practically" independent of oil prices.
      1. Leonid Anatolevich
        Leonid Anatolevich April 7 2020 13: 04 New
        -1
        Quote: Gost2012
        there is no one in this world who would be completely, or "practically" independent of oil prices

        The political system in the United States is not affected by fluctuations in oil prices. They are asking for one dollar per gallon today.
        1. Gost2012
          Gost2012 April 7 2020 13: 22 New
          +3
          Quote: Leonid Anatolyevich
          Quote: Gost2012
          there is no one in this world who would be completely, or "practically" independent of oil prices

          The political system in the United States is not affected by fluctuations in oil prices. They are asking for one dollar per gallon today.

          Historically, in the United States, oil refining is based on imported raw materials, and production is exported. Low prices are good for refining and consumers, and politically these are the votes of voters consuming petroleum products. But this is fatal for miners, and extremely unpleasant for banks and insurance, on whose money this banquet, i.e. for financial circles, and these are politically the voices of financiers.
          Such is the alignment in which the political system "does not depend" on fluctuations in the price of oil in a particularly perverse form laughing
  8. newcomer
    newcomer April 7 2020 12: 50 New
    -1
    On the western front, without a change_ bark.
  9. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert April 7 2020 12: 53 New
    +1
    This fuss with the price of a barrel is extremely unpleasant for me.
    Our financial elite once again demonstrated their complete incompetence.
    The Saud shouldn't have spit in their soup, knowing that America is asleep and sees such a "raskardash" capable of ruining Russian Western contracts for the oil industry.
    Unpleasantly in a dependent position?
    Not that word!
    But what have we achieved?
    Oil is getting cheaper. The ruble is pouring in. Prices in Russian stores are rising. The people are getting poorer ...
    And all this against the background of universal quarantine, a nightmare of Russian small and medium-sized businesses ...
    It is necessary to slow down this process! At any cost.
    People first. Then we'll talk about dignity ...
    1. Roman123567
      Roman123567 April 7 2020 13: 03 New
      +3
      Russia warned of a possible increase in food prices up to 20%
      Manufacturers and suppliers of food called for a review of procurement prices - a maximum of 15-20%.


      The government decided to ban the import of petroleum products into Russia to prevent the supply of cheap foreign gasoline to the domestic market


      And you say people ...
      Do not give a damn about all of us ..
    2. Gost2012
      Gost2012 April 7 2020 13: 07 New
      -5
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      This fuss with the price of a barrel is extremely unpleasant for me.
      Our financial elite once again demonstrated their complete incompetence.
      The Saud shouldn't have spit in their soup, knowing that America is asleep and sees such a "raskardash" capable of ruining Russian Western contracts for the oil industry.
      Unpleasantly in a dependent position?
      Not that word!
      But what have we achieved?
      Oil is getting cheaper. The ruble is pouring in. Prices in Russian stores are rising. The people are getting poorer ...
      And all this against the background of universal quarantine, a nightmare of Russian small and medium-sized businesses ...
      It is necessary to slow down this process! At any cost.
      People first. Then we'll talk about dignity ...

      "incompetence" does not come from "financial elites" here laughing
      All right, hysteria of Saudi and USA confirmation. Russia does not need a deal without the United States. If the United States shuts down oil imports, they will free the markets. If the Americans bend the Saudis and at their expense want to drive, then this is also unlikely to suit.
      Saudis cannot do anything against Russian oil workers. And the United States has only two ways (but the end is the same) - either to negotiate or to close all production to local consumption.
      1. Roman123567
        Roman123567 April 7 2020 13: 15 New
        +2
        And the United States has only one way - either to negotiate or to close all production to local consumption.

        The United States can simply do nothing .. and wait .. The oil price is not critical for them .. Just like that .. one of the entertainments .. Well, they can introduce duties too ..
        But at such a pace in a year we will find ourselves in the 90s that are not unknown to everyone. For, acre of expensive oil, there was no difference in 20 years ..
        1. Gost2012
          Gost2012 April 7 2020 13: 29 New
          -5
          Quote: Roman123567
          And the United States has only one way - either to negotiate or to close all production to local consumption.

          The United States can simply do nothing .. and wait .. The oil price is not critical for them .. Just like that .. one of the entertainments .. Well, they can introduce duties too ..
          But at such a pace in a year we will find ourselves in the 90s that are not unknown to everyone. For, acre of expensive oil, there was no difference in 20 years ..

          Nonsense. Could - would wait. They can’t wait, they will lose the entire industry, and becoming a gas station is an old Amer’s dream.
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 7 2020 14: 07 New
          0
          for sure. it is probably for this reason that American regulators agree now to reduce production by 10 percent. they don’t care. So. stupidly having fun.
        3. Overlock
          Overlock April 7 2020 18: 33 New
          11
          Quote: Roman123567
          And we will find ourselves at such a pace in a year in the well-known to all 90s ..

          Food manufacturers and suppliers insist on a review of procurement prices - 15–20% maximum. We are talking about a wide range of goods, the cost of which has changed due to currency fluctuations.
          All suppliers' proposals have already been tested by the Federal Antimonopoly Service (FAS), which means that they cannot be evaluated as speculative.
          The process has begun ....
      2. WIKI
        WIKI April 7 2020 17: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Gost2012
        If the United States shuts down oil imports, they will free the markets.

        https://tass.ru/ekonomika/7836185
      3. Overlock
        Overlock April 7 2020 18: 16 New
        +9
        Quote: Gost2012
        Russia does not need a deal without the United States.

        Do you want to force the USA? They will NEVER make such a deal. And so
        Quote: Gost2012
        Do it right

        just wait a bit
        Quote: Gost2012
        If Americans bend Saudis

        never, they will agree
        Quote: Gost2012
        Saudis can't do anything against Russian oil workers

        actually, they ALREADY do it. Have you not noticed?
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 7 2020 14: 06 New
      -2
      firstly, no one spat at the Saudis. we would like stability, we would simply cut it ourselves and that’s it. Why didn’t they become, but rather heated? technologically it’s easy to do and in any case is more profitable than dropping prices. but they went into conflict.
    4. Hartakolo12
      Hartakolo12 April 7 2020 14: 25 New
      -4
      First, dignity. I will die . But I will never begin to ask for mercy on my knees.
      1. Paul Siebert
        Paul Siebert April 7 2020 14: 39 New
        10
        Quote: Hartakolo12
        First, dignity. I will die . But I will never begin to ask for mercy on my knees.

        Live up to a hundred years, dear!
        Do not die.
        But no one makes us humble ourselves. Us with you.
        Searchlights who believe in their financial genius are humiliated.
        Turn oil flows inland! Build your own, Russian refineries. Reduce gas and diesel prices.
        Industry and agriculture will breathe a sigh of relief.
        Prices, utilities, interest on loans will decrease.
        Do not want. Give dollars for oil!
        We will not take in the West - we will extradite from the population ...
        Position... request
        1. Chervonny
          Chervonny April 7 2020 15: 53 New
          16
          Quote: Paul Siebert
          We will not take in the West - we will extradite from the population ...
          Position...

          This is not a position, this is our domestic policy, unfortunately.
      2. Horon
        Horon April 7 2020 15: 12 New
        -3
        Apparently, you have already died without rising from your knees.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 7 2020 18: 17 New
          10
          Quote: Horon
          Apparently, you have already died without rising from your knees.

          obviously, you need to do this after Sechin! what do you think?
    5. Chervonny
      Chervonny April 7 2020 15: 52 New
      15
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      It is necessary to slow down this process! At any cost.
      People first. Then we'll talk about dignity ...

      It is necessary. But the realities we have are such that the capitalist oligarchs do not give a damn about people.
  10. K-50
    K-50 April 7 2020 12: 56 New
    -1
    I immediately recall the famous tirade of Barack Obama

    Moreover, the situation can be traced that with each new president, a new "global disease" comes to this, then "bird flu", then "swine", then "SARS", then "Ebola". It may not be a coincidence, but a trend, however. what
  11. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 7 2020 12: 57 New
    +1
    The Frenchman, so insistently argues ... Probably, personally, was present at the negotiations and listened, eating in the corner, the frog.
  12. knn54
    knn54 April 7 2020 12: 59 New
    +4
    Note to the journalist:
    Shale (and not only) oil produced in the United States is too light for American refineries. They are tuned for the oil that was previously received from Venezuela and the Arab countries.
    Venezuela is under the sanctions of the Yankees, and Arab oil is not enough for the needs of the US refineries. Therefore, Russia in recent months has been supplying the United States with large volumes of Urals crude.
    If Trump introduces a duty on oil from KSA and the Russian Federation, the refineries will simply stand up.
    1. Gost2012
      Gost2012 April 7 2020 13: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: knn54
      Note to the journalist:
      Shale (and not only) oil produced in the United States is too light for American refineries. They are tuned for the oil that was previously received from Venezuela and the Arab countries.
      Venezuela is under the sanctions of the Yankees, and Arab oil is not enough for the needs of the US refineries. Therefore, Russia in recent months has been supplying the United States with large volumes of Urals crude.
      If Trump introduces a duty on oil from KSA and the Russian Federation, the refineries will simply stand up.

      theoretically, they can additionally print and allocate dough for the crisis of economic assistance, and carry out modernization of plants for their grades, and forcibly switch production not to export but to domestic consumption, this can save the oil industry, but will not help the United States as a whole.
      You can go into Venezuela by troops, as an option, but even there, your difficulties can be, if suddenly the generals do not outbid.
    2. vargo
      vargo April 7 2020 13: 15 New
      +4
      Support. There are always nuances, and there are many factors in this oil war.. And for most commentators, here, as a calculation of the situation, they have only a couple of simple formulas and that’s all. I would say that Russia now has very good chances, but we still have to take a look at how the process will go.
    3. Roman123567
      Roman123567 April 7 2020 13: 18 New
      +1
      Arab oil is not enough for the needs of US refineries

      KaGbe, the problem is that there is an oversupply of oil in the world ..
    4. aglet
      aglet April 7 2020 16: 19 New
      0
      Light and heavy oil, during the distillation, differ mainly in the sublimation temperature of the fractions, and the amount of bitumen in the waste. by and large - this is not critical
  13. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind April 7 2020 13: 07 New
    +4
    Do not go to the grandmother.
    The United States, in the past, by pressing on Saudi Arabia, "rolled" the USSR, dropping oil prices.
    Now they are faced with the task of "rolling" the RF. The method, which turned out to be very effective then, is used again and it doesn't matter who's talking. In war, as in war ...
    1. Gost2012
      Gost2012 April 7 2020 13: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Whirlwind
      Do not go to the grandmother.
      The United States, in the past, by pressing on Saudi Arabia, "rolled" the USSR, dropping oil prices.
      Now they are faced with the task of "rolling" the RF. The method, which turned out to be very effective then, is used again and it doesn't matter who's talking. In war, as in war ...

      The USSR did not drop oil prices, but chewing gum, jeans and cola. For chewing gum the USSR was destroyed.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 14: 04 New
        -2
        A little bit wrong: the inability of the USSR to provide its citizens with quality consumer goods: from cars to chewing gum, is the reason for its collapse.
        1. Gost2012
          Gost2012 April 7 2020 14: 15 New
          -3
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          A little bit wrong: the inability of the USSR to provide its citizens with quality consumer goods: from cars to chewing gum, is the reason for its collapse.

          I believe this is the same meaning, clothed in other words, and therefore do not mind)
  14. vladcub
    vladcub April 7 2020 13: 13 New
    +1
    Coronovirus really reduced oil consumption by up to 60%.
    It is possible that the Saudis wanted to buy up the American oil industry.
    Regarding the cost of oil production in Russia, this is a slippery topic. The government is not interested in disclosing full information. But by love, as the young say, the Saudis and we need to make some kind of deal. By and large, Saudi Arabia is also not interested in bringing down the oil market
    1. Gost2012
      Gost2012 April 7 2020 14: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: vladcub
      Coronovirus really reduced oil consumption by up to 60%.
      It is possible that the Saudis wanted to buy up the American oil industry.
      Regarding the cost of oil production in Russia, this is a slippery topic. The government is not interested in disclosing full information. But by love, as the young say, the Saudis and we need to make some kind of deal. By and large, Saudi Arabia is also not interested in bringing down the oil market

      The deal is needed for three - OPEC (with KSA) + RF + USA. Otherwise, it will not be right.
  15. 501Legion
    501Legion April 7 2020 13: 24 New
    -3
    what a stupid "journalist"
  16. Eug
    Eug April 7 2020 13: 26 New
    +4
    The question is that low oil prices are followed by low gas prices .. and here Bolivar of the Russian economy can not stand the two.
  17. svp67
    svp67 April 7 2020 13: 51 New
    -1
    Against this background, statements appeared about the allegedly Saudi ultimatum to Moscow. Western media say that Riyadh allegedly insists that Russia reduce production more than other participants in the OPEC + deal.
    And the Saudis are not afraid that from Yemen, so unexpectedly, "SUDDENLY a magician will arrive, but in a blue helicopter ..." accompanied by a dozen SCADs, to the area of ​​the oil fields and will start "doing magic ..."
    1. gcn
      gcn April 7 2020 14: 31 New
      +2
      Well, after this, the prince will not go to the deal at all. He has a peculiar Arab.
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 7 2020 14: 40 New
        -1
        Quote: gcn
        Well, after this, the prince will not go to the deal at all. He has a peculiar Arab.

        The Arab world does not like losers, especially in war. So, after such a blow to the oil fields, there is a high probability that you will have to negotiate with another prince. Perhaps more docile
    2. Overlock
      Overlock April 7 2020 18: 18 New
      10
      Quote: svp67
      And the Saudis are not afraid that from Yemen, so unexpectedly, "SUDDENLY a magician will arrive, but in a blue helicopter ...", accompanied by a dozen SCUDs

      and for the prevention of this, the Saudis have the United States. They have already promised additional arms purchases in exchange for a roof.
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 7 2020 19: 56 New
        0
        Quote: Overlock
        They have already promised additional arms purchases in exchange for a roof.

        That this "roof" is not very much protects them from the Yemeni missiles. It's a pity that their range does not allow them to get a good deal of the Saudis
  18. 123456789
    123456789 April 7 2020 14: 10 New
    0
    As Napoleon said: "The main thing is to get involved in a fight, and the war will show the plan."
    1. 123456789
      123456789 April 8 2020 07: 49 New
      0
      To unknown minusers:
      If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it receives both war and shame.
  19. Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 7 2020 14: 34 New
    +3
    Fortune telling again on coffee grounds.
    What did their iksperdy say over the hill ....

    Here are some articles about the opinions of oil workers for some reason.

    But it is clear that according to the media, it was not Sechin who threw the agreement with the Arabs, but the Arabs brazenly broke the agreement ....

    News media and people are especially pleased that the Saudis allegedly counted on oil for 80 bucks. Which has not happened since 2014 ...
  20. aglet
    aglet April 7 2020 15: 40 New
    +3
    Quote: Gene84
    The stabilization fund has long been gone. There is the NWF of Russia.

    is there exactly? It wasn’t him who was taken to London when they lost gold bullion at Sheremetyevo?
  21. aglet
    aglet April 7 2020 15: 40 New
    0
    Quote: Hartakolo12
    What will you choose?

    and you ?
  22. aglet
    aglet April 7 2020 15: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: Tank Hard
    It is time to understand that the days when it was possible to speak ultimatum with Russia have already passed.

    Now it was not clear. But what about Russia lately, everything from Luxembourg to the United States speaks and acts? or am I not living in that Russia?
  23. Ura Orlov
    Ura Orlov April 7 2020 15: 48 New
    +1
    And what kind of traitor to the Motherland prevents the Rus from introducing cheap installations of Omsk scientists, gasoline from garbage for 4 kopecks? Let's kill two birds with one stone at once.
  24. aglet
    aglet April 7 2020 15: 48 New
    0
    Quote: Oo sarcasm
    The owner said - the Russians occupied Donbass

    were you present and then a train to youtu?
  25. aglet
    aglet April 7 2020 15: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: Mole
    At the expense of Russian households, we will win, add prices at gas stations, levy taxes, increase deductions, cut sheep shortened, and remove fat from them !?

    How else? not in America, there will be no 8p gas tea
  26. aglet
    aglet April 7 2020 16: 03 New
    0
    Quote: Roman123567
    Russia warned of a possible increase in food prices up to 20%
    Manufacturers and suppliers of food called for a review of procurement prices - a maximum of 15-20%.

    once warned, it means they will raise, everything is fair with us. and the domestic producer will support - they banned the import of cheap gasoline. take care of us, with all their might. "In the morning I smear a sandwich - just a thought, but as a people, caviar does not go down the throat ...". God forbid, people will save an extra penny, at least on anything. oh yes, I forgot - wild plants, dead wood, penalties on debts - what the hell is cheap gasoline to you?
  27. aglet
    aglet April 7 2020 16: 05 New
    -2
    Quote: Hartakolo12
    First, dignity. I will die . But I will never begin to ask for mercy on my knees.

    How funny, isn't it? "Why aren't you dead when you are little?"
  28. aglet
    aglet April 7 2020 16: 12 New
    0
    Quote: Paul Siebert
    We will not take in the West - we will extradite from the population ...
    Position...

    not a position, but a way of life. in the West it’s hard to take; recent events speak of this. one must think that one must do something, but Sechin cannot, nothing, he is a teacher of a foreign language, not an oilman. but it’s easy to tear it off from your own people, and Vova will help, or rather, it has already helped, I have forbidden to supply cheap gas, there was no competitor to Schaub
  29. aglet
    aglet April 7 2020 16: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: Horon
    Apparently, you have already died without rising from your knees

    and you’re not going to get up, just to live
  30. aglet
    aglet April 7 2020 16: 15 New
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    Quote: carstorm 11
    technologically it’s easy to do and in any case is more profitable than dropping prices. but they went into conflict.

    at the request of workers
  31. aglet
    aglet April 7 2020 16: 21 New
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    Quote: knn54
    Venezuela is under the sanctions of the Yankees, and Arab oil is not enough for the needs of the US refineries. Therefore, Russia in recent months has been supplying the United States with large volumes of Urals brand raw materials.

    Arab oil is the lightest; Venezuela has a bit heavier. our oil is different, and the Urals is a mixture of oils, but not the lightest, it will be heavier than all
  32. aglet
    aglet April 7 2020 16: 28 New
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    Quote: svp67
    So, after such a blow to the oil fields, there is a high probability that you will have to negotiate with another prince. Maybe more

    there these printsev- as we have shoe polish, they will find with whom to agree
  33. dgonni
    dgonni April 7 2020 16: 30 New
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    I'm interested here, but what prevented the author from posting a link to this article in the Le Tribune and let the readers of VO read and draw their own conclusions !? Tea does not live in the 70-80s, but a century of numbers! There, in the article, if you read it all and not take phrases out of context, it’s not even so written. The author notes the fact that a decrease of even 10-15 million barrels per day will only give a temporary increase in oil prices and predicts a further drop in prices to $ 10 per barrel. It also regrets that such an agreement is adopted, if accepted !, too late.
    For those who wish I give a reference! (https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/industrie/energie-environnement/chute-des-cours-conflit-entre-riyad-et-moscou-intervention-de-trump-la-crise-petroliere-en -neuf-questions-844292.html)
  34. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 7 2020 16: 41 New
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    The Saudis are bluffing, but the natural craving for the show-off does not allow them to dutifully lower their lush-head in front of the king.
    Short memory. Under punitive measures are they terrorist attacks They promise us ??? Well, nothing, soon the Saudis themselves in tight sand huts will bask at the campfire on a camel dung, if they do not change their minds
  35. bar
    bar April 7 2020 16: 49 New
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    The author of the “clarification” was journalist Jerome Maren

    There was no more competent "clarifier" among the frogs? Sad ... sad
  36. yfast
    yfast April 7 2020 17: 53 New
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    You can begin to help the Hussites admonish the Saudis.
  37. Leonid Anatolevich
    Leonid Anatolevich April 7 2020 20: 10 New
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    Quote: Red
    Of course, I don’t like China very much ... But to write such a blizzard is too much.

    They are responsible for this - they could block the epidemic within the PRC, but decided to wait, see what will happen