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Tomos of schism: the situation with Orthodoxy in Ukraine more than a year after the decision of Constantinople

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A little more than a year ago, in January 2019, the so-called Tomos of the Patriarch of Constantinople about autocephaly of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine (PCU) was published. This decision led to a split in Ukrainian Orthodoxy and created a very unfavorable situation for believing Ukrainians who were forced to move from church to church with parishes. What is the situation in this regard today?


The decision to grant autocephaly to the Orthodox Church of Ukraine was made by Patriarch Bartholomew on January 6, 2019, but it has been brewing for a long time. You do not have to be seven spans in your forehead to understand - this decision was not due to religious, but political considerations and was taken solely to weaken Russia's influence on Ukraine and the Ukrainian population.

The need of the Kiev regime as clearly as possible to demonstrate its separation from Russia in all aspects, its independence and distinctness from Russia and the Russian world, was expressed, inter alia, in the struggle for autocephaly of the Ukrainian church. It is no accident that the main initiator of autocephaly was Petro Poroshenko, who, despite the separation of the church from the state, actively intervened in religious matters.

As for the Patriarchate of Constantinople, he always had a difficult relationship with Moscow and the autocephaly of the PTsU in Fanar was seen as a great opportunity to tear out from the custody of Moscow a vast territory with tens of millions of inhabitants, although not all of them were a potential flock of new autocephalous at that time churches.

However, the Tomos given by Patriarch Bartholomew, following separation from Moscow, led to other consequences - to a conflict inside the Ukrainian church between two very significant hierarchs - Metropolitan Filaret (Mikhail Denisenko) and Metropolitan Epiphanius (Sergey Dumenko).

Initially, Filaret received the title of “Honorary Patriarch”, but he insisted on maintaining the structure of the Kiev Patriarchate and hoped to remain the head of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine in the status of the Patriarch of Kiev and All Russia-Ukraine. But Metropolitan Epiphanius, having secured the support of a significant part of the hierarchs of the PCU, the Kiev regime and the Patriarchate of Constantinople proper, saw himself as the head of the PCU.

From February 3, 2019, Epiphanius was proclaimed Metropolitan of Kiev and all Ukraine. Filaret, in turn, left the PCU and now leads the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kiev Patriarchate, which, unlike the PCU, is not recognized by the Patriarchate of Constantinople. She is not recognized by the Russian Orthodox Church.

Filaret Tomos did not recognize autocephaly, citing the fact that Ukrainian Orthodoxy moved from one dependence to another - it was dependent on Moscow, and became dependent on Constantinople. The PCU actually found itself in the status of the Metropolitanate of the Patriarchate of Constantinople, completely dependent in religious and financial matters on Fanar.

In turn, the PCU actually accused Filaret of splitting, but they did not forget about ostentatious mercy: generously left the elderly hierarch the right to live in a residence, to which Filaret reacted sarcastically, in the spirit of "thank you for not expelling me to the street."

Naturally, the support from the authorities became the main reason for the transition of many parishioners to the colony and the transfer of colony to many parishes, even the UOC of the Moscow Patriarchate. The transition from the Moscow Patriarchate to the new church was most actively observed in the west of Ukraine, where anti-Russian sentiments were always widespread. For comparison: by the spring of 2019, 116 parishes in the Volyn region and only 1 parish in the Zaporozhye region (3 parishes in the Dnipropetrovsk region, 4 in the Nikolaev region) reported leaving the UOC-MP.

Another curious circumstance testifies that the church schism in Ukraine is political in nature. As soon as the new president Vladimir Zelensky came to power in Kiev, positioning himself as equidistant from all churches in the religious matter, the reverse process began - several parishes returned from the PCU to the UOC MP. If we analyze the number of parishes, now the UOC-MP is leading in it (about 13 thousand parishes), then there is the PCU (8 thousand parishes) and by a huge margin - the UOC-KP Filaret (only about 20 parishes).

Now, the state authorities have been involved in the division of parishes and church property. Police officers do not shy away from using special means against parishioners of the UOC-KP Filaret, and Filaret, in turn, does not hesitate to accuse his opponent Epiphanius of anything, to the extent that the latter is the illegitimate son of the late Metropolitan Daniil (Chokalyuk).

The split of Ukrainian Orthodoxy became one of the saddest events for the Russian Orthodox Church. The political interests of the Kiev regime and the ambitions of individual hierarchs led to the fact that in Ukraine there were not just several churches, but real disassembly began for property, for parishes and parishioners, to which political organizations and power structures joined. For believers themselves, this situation is reflected very negatively: people move from church to church after the parishes and do not understand which parishioners they will be tomorrow. The misunderstanding was especially pronounced in the past few weeks, when parishioners want to pray for an early resolution of the pandemic, but the whole problem for them is that in the schismatic churches of Ukraine they also need to confirm their "commitment" to them and to no one else. That is, politics even penetrated into the spiritual life of Ukraine.
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  1. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 April 7 2020 11: 06 New
    +7
    The Ukrainian diocese is in despair because of this Thomas. As the people say "a suitcase without a handle"! don't know what to do with it)
    1. Finches
      Finches April 7 2020 11: 10 New
      +7
      Today, on the feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, which is considered the feast of the earth, it is appropriate to remind Ukraine that it will soon be left without it, darling, but with Thomas ... There will be something to cover up your bare ass! laughing
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 7 2020 11: 11 New
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        There is a lot about politics, misunderstanding, bickering of schismatics, and practically nothing specifically about how the fate of the clergy of the Moscow Patriarchate, parishioners of the church, property of church communities of the MP, ROC, on the territory mentally and spiritually hostile ...
        1. military_cat
          military_cat April 7 2020 12: 46 New
          +2
          the reverse process began - several parishes returned from the CCP to the UOC MP.
          I wonder if there are at least some details? I honestly tried to look for something similar in Google, but could not find a single case. I would really appreciate it.
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          2. Tatyana
            Tatyana April 7 2020 13: 54 New
            +2
            When I look at all these polit-religious church-oligarchic squabbles, I involuntarily think that what a blessing that I am an atheist and that the church is separated from the state by the Constitution of the Russian Federation!

            1. Trapperxnumx
              Trapperxnumx April 7 2020 16: 41 New
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              funny picture. Especially if against the background of this:
              Metropolitan Sergius raised the issue of electing a Patriarch, for which, in his opinion, it was necessary to convene a Local Council. Stalin, of course, showed full understanding, indicating only that under the given conditions it would be best to convene not the Local, but the Bishops' Council. The authorities were in a hurry and even suggested that Sergius “show the Bolshevik pace” in organizing this Council, promising all possible help and support. As a result, a joint decision was made to open the Cathedral on September 8.

              Stalin considered it necessary to recreate theological academies and seminaries, but the locum tenens had to refuse, believing that at that time the Church had enough strength only for theological courses. The issue of publishing the Journal of the Moscow Patriarchate was easily resolved. Stalin did not even mind that the Soviet authorities considered a list of repressed clerics for possible rehabilitation. He did not forget the “housing problem”, having allocated the Patriarchate a building in Chisty Lane, which was previously occupied by the German ambassador Schulenburg. Then the metropolitans were informed about the establishment of the Council for the ROC Affairs, headed by Georgy Karpov.

              Stalin (after the events of course was known) did more for the Russian Orthodox Church than many other rulers
      2. Atlant-1164
        Atlant-1164 April 7 2020 11: 17 New
        +6
        here the principle "to spite the conductor, I will go on foot" was important for them
        1. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka April 7 2020 11: 39 New
          -1
          Quote: Atlant-1164
          "to spite the conductor, I'll go on foot"

          there is a feeling that in spite of the conductor I will lie under the tram, the Kiev "church" did not receive independence, I would say acted as a sucker who gave "money" it is not clear why he was left without "money" and without this it is not clear what
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 7 2020 11: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: Atlant-1164
          here the principle "to spite the conductor, I will go on foot" was important for them

          Yes, they have both life and action, everything is just "in spite". It's time to throw evil in the trash, or else soon throw the torn kitchen into the trash.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin April 7 2020 11: 52 New
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            Yes, they have both life and action, everything is just "out of spite".

            There is a complete impression.
            It doesn’t matter how it comes around, but they’re still trying, albeit on trifles, to spoil near the threshold
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 7 2020 11: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Atlant-1164
      The Ukrainian diocese is in despair, from this Thomas. As the people say "a suitcase without a handle"! don't know what to do with him

      There is a civil war in Ukraine, and now thanks to Thomas, a religious war has also appeared.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 7 2020 11: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        a religious war appeared.

        And it can be worse than civil
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 7 2020 11: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: Lipchanin
          And it can be worse than civil

          Well, that's how it all began, the Thirty Years War, which began as a religious clash between Protestants and Catholics of the Holy Roman Empire, and one might say grew into a "Pan-European" war.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin April 7 2020 11: 53 New
            +2
            Quote: tihonmarine

            Well, it all started

            Yes, I wanted to say that religious fanatics are worse than political ones.
            Although they are worth each other
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine April 7 2020 13: 16 New
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              Quote: Lipchanin
              Yes, I wanted to say that religious fanatics are worse than political ones.

              That certainly stands each other.

              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin April 7 2020 13: 20 New
                +2
                Quote: tihonmarine
                That certainly stands each other.

        2. Deniska999
          Deniska999 April 7 2020 12: 16 New
          +2
          There doesn’t smell of religion there. Share assets, that's all.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin April 7 2020 12: 17 New
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            Quote: Deniska999
            Share assets, that's all.

            Divide the top. And the people sincerely believe.
    3. Gene84
      Gene84 April 7 2020 11: 56 New
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      Quote: Atlant-1164
      The Ukrainian diocese is in despair because of this Thomas. As the people say "a suitcase without a handle"! don't know what to do with it)

      for the Kiev authorities, one of the main and primary tasks was in the spiritual gap between the fraternal peoples of Ukraine and Russia.
    4. Paul Siebert
      Paul Siebert April 7 2020 12: 29 New
      +3
      Ukraine is experiencing a period of decay. Total.
      Dispersion touched the most hidden corners of Ukrainian life.
      Everything that previously seemed unshakable breaks up.
      Economics, manufacturing, science, education, medicine, human relationships ...
      It would seem that one could take faith as a fulcrum ...
      Leaning on God, Ukrainians will be able, like Archimedes, to turn the world around them.
      Not here it was!
      The split also touched the sacred.
      Independent lost strong support.
      The scripture says:
      "A house divided in itself will not stand ..."
    5. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs April 7 2020 15: 43 New
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      ValtsmanoTomos is not a suitcase, it is a race of horses into the dark. They did not understand how he ... "shod" them.
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  3. knn54
    knn54 April 7 2020 11: 11 New
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    Tomos was turned into the show "How to Become a Millionaire".
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 April 7 2020 11: 57 New
      14
      all politics of Ukraine, one big show.
    2. Basil50
      Basil50 April 7 2020 14: 11 New
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      54
      You're right. There the forage base of all kinds is divided .......
      Saudi princes went the same way when they began to redistribute the markets for their product.
  4. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery April 7 2020 11: 12 New
    -2
    Tomos for Constantinople is not a matter of religion, but property. Therefore, Constantinople was outside of religion and God.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 7 2020 11: 47 New
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      Quote: Valery Valery
      Tomos for Constantinople is not a matter of religion, but property. Therefore, Constantinople was outside of religion and God.

      Here the business and human greed already rule, and those who should always remember him forgot about God.
    2. Gene84
      Gene84 April 7 2020 11: 58 New
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      Quote: Valery Valery
      Tomos for Constantinople is not a matter of religion, but property.

      not only a matter of ownership, but also an attempt by Constantinople to become at the level of the Vatican
      1. siemens7774
        siemens7774 April 7 2020 12: 56 New
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        Constantinople is completely under the rule of the Vatican. The same Catholics, only under the guise of the Orthodox.
  5. Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 7 2020 11: 17 New
    +1
    When religion is mixed with politics, everyone suffers: both believers and priests. Riding only politics.
  6. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 April 7 2020 11: 20 New
    +3
    In one, I agree with Comrade Stalin, of all these hardworkers of mental labor, on the construction of the national economy, otherwise I look at their faces and see that they eat well, but according to the physical data, I see that they work a little.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 7 2020 12: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      In one, I agree with Stalin, of all these hardworkers of mental labor, on the construction of the national economy

      Under Stalin, it is rare that after the institute went to a leading position, most of them went through working specialties, the leader must know how and how the people live. I still found the times when the civilian fleet had a sailing qualification of 30 months, clean sea. This means that it was necessary to go to sea for more than 3 years either as a sailor or as a minder. It was only reduced in the 70s. But no one could reproach you with a "white shirt".
  7. Cowbra
    Cowbra April 7 2020 11: 22 New
    -1
    There was such an author at VO, Makhov, like asking him for the Uniates, he will answer you. The truth is most likely - obscene. Well, he will catch his breath - I recommend asking why your phrase:
    This decision led to a split in Ukrainian Orthodoxy

    Fierce and wild FIG!
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 April 7 2020 12: 01 New
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      Quote: Cowbra
      There was such an author at VO, Makhov, like asking him for the Uniates, he will answer you. The truth is most likely - obscene. Well, he will catch his breath - I recommend asking why your phrase:
      This decision led to a split in Ukrainian Orthodoxy

      Fierce and wild FIG!

      Do you think there is no schism among Ukrainian Orthodoxy? no sharing of church property, etc.?
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra April 7 2020 12: 43 New
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        If very briefly - and very simplified. The split that Vytroshenko was trying to make is a laugh. The main schism, I repeat - the Uniates ... 4 hundred years, like? And Makhov, like Tersky, I used to laugh at Tezh, I'm from Kubvna. You even read a little about Google about Uniates. But people like me and Makhov will say more
  8. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 April 7 2020 11: 26 New
    +5
    Quote: tihonmarine
    There is a civil war in Ukraine, and now thanks to Thomas, a religious war has also appeared.

    resistance to evil .. imposed by force, through the knee! it did not pass, and will not pass.
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    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 7 2020 11: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: Avior

      Changes in the UOC-MP are also noticeable - there is a bias towards Ukrainization, the Metropolitan’s conversion to Ukrainian, the site is bilingual, until recently there was nothing like that.


      Did not have. But you forgot "The Law on MOV" ...

      Like it or not, but the MP in politically hostile territory, and you have to give up something in order to somehow maintain influence ...
      1. Avior
        Avior April 7 2020 11: 56 New
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        Theoretically it should not be related to "about MOV", he is not an official.
        but the fact that on the one hand they drown each other and Orthodoxy as a whole, and must fight with each other for influence, it forces
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 7 2020 12: 30 New
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          Quote: Avior
          Theoretically it should not be related to "about MOV", he is not an official.

          Not an official No. but what laws are obliged (forced) to guide public, religious and other organizations in their activities in the outskirts?

          So, purely in theory ... The practice is harsher. yes
          1. Normal ok
            Normal ok April 7 2020 16: 08 New
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            Quote: Insurgent
            Quote: Avior
            Theoretically it should not be related to "about MOV", he is not an official.

            Not an official No. but what laws are obliged (forced) to guide public, religious and other organizations in their activities in the outskirts?

            "The Law on Freedom of Conscience and Religious Organizations". According to him, services can be conducted in any language that the majority of the members of the religious community consider necessary.
  10. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront April 7 2020 11: 50 New
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    Nothing new, the Thirty Years War in the 17th century, when, against the background of the struggle against Protestant heresy, the French Catholics gladly slaughtered the Spanish Catholics, solving their geopolitical problems. Moreover, the Catholic Cardinal Richelieu financed the Swedes Protestants, who tore apart the Catholic, holy Roman Empire of the Habsburgs. .As mother Courage used to say, "Human corruption, that God's goodness, all hope is for her."
  11. Region-25.rus
    Region-25.rus April 7 2020 12: 00 New
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    meanwhile, in the courtyard of the 21st century ......
    1. gabonskijfront
      gabonskijfront April 7 2020 12: 07 New
      0
      The apocalypse and the second coming are getting closer.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 7 2020 12: 35 New
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      Quote: Region-25.rus
      meanwhile, in the courtyard of the 21st century ......

      For the Outskirts, time stopped and began to reverse, and bypassing the bright moments in its history ...

      Swiftly reversed ...

  12. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy April 7 2020 12: 03 New
    0
    Completely crazy ...
  13. Lamata
    Lamata April 7 2020 12: 53 New
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    IMHO, faith does not need any guides, ok, if the priest is in church, then this is one thing, if bureaucrats are stupid from "faith", then why are they needed.
  14. faterdom
    faterdom April 7 2020 14: 32 New
    0
    In every village you can find a log, plan on it a rudely harsh but fair face - and pray, pray, pray ... and lace panties and visa-free travel are coming, and much more ...
    1. Lamata
      Lamata April 7 2020 14: 32 New
      -2
      and wookie cookies
  15. lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 April 7 2020 14: 35 New
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    Jehovah rules) Jehovah will save ..... hallelujah .... that's it
  16. Amateur
    Amateur April 7 2020 15: 44 New
    +1
    The priests still cannot divide the property. They completely forgot that God is one. But when it comes to "grandmothers" (not old women), then God is somewhere in the distant ninth place. I am ashamed of Orthodoxy.
    ps A few days ago they showed Patriarch Cyril, who, with a group of priests, carried an icon around Moscow. All were without masks!
    "What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull." But believers look at them. What an example to people.
  17. APASUS
    APASUS April 7 2020 17: 43 New
    0
    The end justifies the means!
    In relation to Ukraine, the West acts like a barbarian. If in order to weaken Russia it is necessary to bring lepers to Ukraine, to build the largest dump of nuclear, biological, chemical waste, the West will not think for a second!
  18. Dimy4
    Dimy4 April 7 2020 18: 26 New
    0
    Politics and money. And the "holy" fathers denyuzhki oh, how they love!
  19. Diviz
    Diviz April 11 2020 10: 33 New
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    And we know what to do with the tomos. This is how much time has passed. And that as if nothing serious. All is well coronovirus is the grace of God. I want a lot to write .... Brains are a gift of God. You can’t buy it for a tomos.