The cold ice of the Arctic became the object of "hot interest" in Russia and the USA

Recently, the Arctic is beginning to interest many countries of the world. But it causes the greatest interest in Russia and the USA.

This is written by the Chinese publication Zhongguo Junwang. As if China, this region is not of "hot interest".

Journalists of the publication emphasize that control over the Arctic zone provides not only access to its rich resources, but also provides serious geopolitical advantages.

Russia has the largest territory in the world adjacent to the North Pole. Therefore, she began active development of the Arctic in the era of the Russian Empire. The United States has begun to actively claim this region recently. More and more Americans began to conduct military maneuvers in the Arctic. The most memorable IceX-2020 exercises, during which the Toledo submarine sailed, breaking ice. Actually, if for the US Navy this is considered a major achievement, then in Russia any nuclear submarine of the North or the Pacific is capable of this. fleet.

The increased attention of the military to the North Pole region is due to the fact that it is the center where Europe, Asia and North America converge. From here, one can keep almost the entire Northern Hemisphere of the Earth at gunpoint.

In addition, the Arctic zone is rich in hydrocarbon deposits. Since there will be a shortage of the planet in the future, the Arctic’s oil and gas resources could mitigate this crisis. Therefore, a country that develops this region will receive significant benefits.

Comments

[Fantazer911]

On the territory of Russia, the states have nothing to do from the word “Absolutely”, the States are not the center of the world and their desires do not quite fit them, I want to, as we say, do it and it will be gut, bend your back, kneel, etc.
The USA, as the center of the infection, has already dismissed its tentacles, whether you understand such a business only and not something personal!

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Fantazer911

In Russia, the states do nothing from the word

that’s because I didn’t know that the states were already on the territory of Russia to Matushka .... where can I look for reptiles ..... I’ve already cleaned my little thing with optics and am ready to clean up the infection !!

[Thrifty]

Tiksi3 - look in the garden, at night they dig your carrots and potatoes !!!

[Grits]

Quote: Thrifty

in the garden look, at night they dig your carrots and potatoes

In Tiksi gardens are only for reindeer moss. Potatoes with carrots do not grow not only at night, but even on a polar day.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Gritsa

In Tiksi, yagel-only gardens

how can I say)), we have greenhouses for tomatoes and cucumbers - around the clock))) ...

[Grits]

Quote: Tiksi-3

we have greenhouses for tomatoes and cucumbers - around the clock

Oooo ... yeah, it’s not so bad there as it seems. I wonder where do you get the black earth-chernozem for greenhouses? Is it really that the local is scraped from the top layer?

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Gritsa

I wonder where do you get the black earth-chernozem for greenhouses?

Duc for this, and there is military transport aircraft !!, although to be honest, they used to take sea bottom sediments (such as silt)

[Fantazer911]

Tiksi -3

In the sense that, as far as I remember, from the point of the north pole to the border of land Russia there is a border, the Northern Sea Route is also Russian, or I'm wrong, please correct me!

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Fantazer911

from the point of the north pole to the border of land Russia there is a border

Quote: Fantazer911

the Northern Sea Route is also Russian, or am I mistaken

you are mistaken

[Fantazer911]

Clear, thanks, sorry!

[Grits]

Quote: Fantazer911

In the sense that, as far as I remember, from the point of the north pole to the border of land Russia there is a border, the Northern Sea Route is also Russian, or I'm wrong, please correct me!

Soviet maps always drew a sector with a peak at the North Pole. As the territory of the USSR. But, unfortunately, these are just Wishlist ...

[Cowbra]

during which the Toledo submarine sailed breaking ice

This is when they again sawed the ice, as usual? It would be necessary to fit our boat ... Already traditionally we would cram mattresses with masks wherever, and which holes were not enough - you can push the ventilator. As humanitarian aid. At the same time, buoyancy in minke whales will increase

[Ilya-spb]

Eh, it would be nice ... An American submarine would mistakenly swim into the territorial waters of Russia ..

Then we would have her boarded and captured)) and the ransom))

[cost]

Actually, if for the US Navy this is considered a serious achievement, then in Russia any nuclear submarine of the Northern or Pacific Fleet is capable of this.

And what our nuclear submarines "Orenburg" and "Moscow region" can, the Chinese from "Zhongguo Junwang" will not dream even in a nightmare

[Mouse]

Therefore, a country that develops this region will receive significant benefits.

Who did not have time, he was late !!!
It seems that Amer does not shine ....

[Mebius]

Quote: Mouse

Who did not have time, he was late !!! wink
It seems that Amer does not shine ...

Russia promptly poured in time on both military bases and a powerful icebreaker fleet ..And it seems that a large territory of the Arctic waters officially staked out for itself ..And you will have to fight for anyone, China and India are already sniffing something out, etc.

[knn54]

As ALWAYS a threat to US interests.

[SovAr238A]

What nonsense - where does the "major achievement" thesis come from?
The authors themselves come up with such stupid articles.
Then they themselves will then believe.
Then they begin to think of a jam.

A Nuclear Submarine cannot get stuck in the ice, after surfacing.
The shape of the contours of the hulls of modern submarines will not.
There have not yet been such cases in history.

Americans, British, French, Russians - for decades (since the end of the 50s) have been floating in the ice of the Arctic Ocean.
70 years already.

ICEX exercises are testing of submarine combat operations under the ice.
In ICEX-2003, the Connecticut nuclear submarine fired two dozen torpedoes in various conditions at all possible target types and in various conditions.


And no one has any problems.

Problems only when underwater obstacles crash under the ice.
In history, and such cases have been


Why post such stupid news:

[Podvodnik]

conditions shot two dozen torpedoes for all possible options for types of targets and in various conditions.

One can only envy such training. We, I remember, and one "pulnut" in joy was. And then two dozen. They do not spare funds for crew training.

[Blondy]

An interesting view of things: putting the interests of the States and Russia on the same level. The thesis about the ardent interests of Russia and the United States in the Gulf of Mexico would look exactly the same - but everyone would immediately ask the question: “What has Russia forgotten there (although, if you figure it out well, then the States have nothing to do there), and for some reason about Everything is considered normal for the Arctic and the States, and no one has a question: why the hell have the States forgotten there - in the Russian (geographically and historically, more than a thousand years) Arctic. Probably it's time to rebuild the way of thinking,

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Blondy

Probably it's time to rebuild the way of thinking,

Really, it's time.
After all, there are laws by which we all live.
Good or bad, like or dislike.
But we must live on them.
This is the legal basis of the state.

There are also legal international laws - the basics.

So read - The legal regime of the Arctic.
You will probably be very interested ... Especially about the participants.

[Blondy]

In fact, it’s enough to try to rely on the priority of Russian laws and look at the map of the USSR and remember who the receiver is. And when reading international legal laws, one should keep in mind the scientific reports about all kinds of Arctic shelves and underwater ridges, in the light of which, even with the current attitude of some to international law, their claims to future ownership are unlikely to be justified.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Blondy

In fact, it’s enough to try to rely on the priority of Russian laws and look at the map of the USSR and remember who the receiver is. And when reading international legal laws, one should keep in mind the scientific reports about all kinds of Arctic shelves and underwater ridges, in the light of which, even with the current attitude of some to international law, their claims to future ownership are unlikely to be justified.

I understand that you again signed in your ignorance.
Why in conversations about the Arctic look at the map of the USSR and remember the receivers?
What's the point of this?

But there is a point in your head. So your head is full of secret knowledge.

Why Danes, Canadians, Norwegians - should consider the priority of Russian laws?
Norwegians and Danes were in the Arctic Ocean as often as Russian Pomors.
Therefore, there are no historical reasons in our right to the entire ocean. These are just realities.
And not the hotel.

[Blondy]

Well, right, the whole ocean - I was already shy. I had in mind the Arctic, just the Russian sector, since the rest of the sectors are not of interest, and according to international laws on the adjacent shelf, the Russian sector should be Russian, and by no means international. And you don’t need to interfere with secret knowledge, otherwise I’ll flush myself - I’ll become a witch.

[Aag]

"An interesting way of looking at things ..."
Try to twist the globe and find its position in which the territory of the Russian Federation and the Gulf of Mexico will be simultaneously viewed.
Now take a look at the "Sharik" from the North Pole (this is from above): the USA is hard to miss.

[Aag]

So far, unfortunately, I see at VO the concern and feelings of people who are not indifferent to the fate of the Northern Fleet that our SSBNs cannot leave territorial waters without enemy escort.
And here you are with all the adversaries hats (caps, caps) threw from the sofas! Not serious, gentlemen.

[ApJlekuHo]

that our SSBNs cannot escape from territorial waters without enemy escort

They can and go, stand on duty in the most unexpected places. It is the north that contributes to this.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: ApJlekuHo

that our SSBNs cannot escape from territorial waters without enemy escort

They can and go, stand on duty in the most unexpected places. It is the north that contributes to this.

Is it near the chtoli pier? A very unexpected place ... :)

[Boa kaa]

Quote: AAG

Now take a look at the "Sharik" from the North Pole (this is from above): the USA is hard to miss.

So let them measure for themselves a segment proportional to the Arctic coast of Alaska! Who is against? But no, they lift their legs to the Northern Sea Route! Well, if so, then we will close 12 miles of tervod and let them walk on the pack ice on foot ... if the Arctic Agreement is not a decree for them, and they "want" to swim (and not walk!) According to the rules of navigation, declaring the ice free mn water area!
However, they will not get a 200 mile economic zone! Nothing shines on them here even under the law of the sea. And Russia is not going to bend under the Yankees, judging by the growth of the Arctic infrastructure and equipment in all respects of the SA-TVD.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: BoA KAA

Quote: AAG

Now take a look at the "Sharik" from the North Pole (this is from above): the USA is hard to miss.

So let them measure out a segment proportional to the Arctic coast of Alaska!

And they measured ...

[Grits]

Quote: Blondy

And for some reason, as for the Arctic and the States, everything is considered normal, and no one has a question: what kind of horseradish have the States forgotten there - in the Russian (geographically and historically for over a thousand years) Arctic

Remove peroxide from your diet. There, in fact, such a solid piece of the American Arctic. Alaska.

[Blondy]

What a magnificent illustration to my koment, only the ridges and shelves are missing, because you will have to vote on them.

[Grits]

Quote: Blondy

What a magnificent illustration to my koment

Sorry if my joke turned out to be somewhat flat. It's just a catchy nickname.

[Fantazer911]

I agree + from me!

[cniza]

This is written by the Chinese publication Zhongguo Junwang. As if China, this region is not of "hot interest".

If not interested, why write?

[orionvitt]

The Arctic zone is rich in hydrocarbon deposits. Since in the future the planet expects their shortage

In the 80s of the last century, it was blowing with all our ears that in thirty years, oil and gas would run out. It's been almost forty, and what do we see? At least fill up with oil and gas, but prices generally fell below the baseboard. I am not saying that the reserves are infinite, you just need to make correct predictions, and not "scare" the average man in the street with various "apocalyptic scenarios."

[Doccor18]

They didn’t, but always showed. The Arctic is the only more or less free exit to the world's oceans. The enemy quickly blocks the rest of the exits, if that ...

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Doccor18

They didn’t, but always showed. The Arctic is the only more or less free exit to the world's oceans. The enemy quickly blocks the rest of the exits, if that ...

Are you serious now?
Have you ever looked at a map?

[Boa kaa]

The most memorable exercise is IceX-2020, during which the Toledo submarine sailed, breaking the ice.

And before, 3 pieces were climbed out from under the ice ...

... in the United States and Great Britain, these exercises, in which three nuclear-powered ships took part, were American Hartford (SSN-768) type Los Angeles and Connecticut (SSN-22) type Sivulf, and also the British Trenchant (S-91) of the Trafalgar type, were also accompanied by numerous publications and media reports up to a wide demonstration of torpedo fire from American submarines, which were severely censored in previous years. A report by CNN special correspondent Jim Sutto from the Hartford submarine came out with a biting and aggressive headline: "The nuclear submarine challenges Russia in the Arctic."

So, the author did not surprise even once!

[Ros 56]

Our North, as Zhirinovsky says, is unequivocal. And whoever will stretch the arms there, can stretch the legs.

[lvov_aleksey]

woke up! Where is our main natural wealth ?! Oil, gas - complete garbage. Our unforgettable wealth, irreplaceable, including fresh water (1/3 of the world's reserves only in the territory of the Russian Federation) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[SovAr238A]

Quote: lvov_aleksey

woke up! Where is our main natural wealth ?! Oil, gas - complete garbage. Our unforgettable wealth, irreplaceable, including fresh water (1/3 of the world's reserves only in the territory of the Russian Federation) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

You would have pulled up the materiel ...
Not 33%, not 33 long ago.

But only 20%.
And in terms of reserves per capita - we are only in 28th place.

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: SovAr238A

Quote: lvov_aleksey

woke up! Where is our main natural wealth ?! Oil, gas - complete garbage. Our unforgettable wealth, irreplaceable, including fresh water (1/3 of the world's reserves only in the territory of the Russian Federation) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

You would have pulled up the materiel ...
Not 33%, not 33 long ago.

But only 20%.
And in terms of reserves per capita - we are only in 28th place.

I talked about irreplaceable wealth.
I'm talking about Brazil, USA, etc. I know everything. I remember about Baikal .... 20% of the total reserve now, but Vika is very wrong !!!. But where did our great rivers divide: the Volga, Yenisei, Lena, Amur, etc., did not sound the tributaries, but they are also large.