Developer Announces Boomerang Platform Innovations

Developer Announces Boomerang Platform Innovations

BTR and BMP platform "Boomerang" went through a certain revision. We are talking about promising armored vehicles on a wheeled platform, which was developed by the Military Industrial Company ("MIC").


According to the latest information, the innovations of the Boomerang are primarily associated with the strengthening of the armor component when using armored vehicles in water operations. In particular, representatives of the military-industrial complex are talking about an increased armored hull, which increases the buoyancy of armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles on the Boomerang platform.

After the expansion of the armored corps, displacement indicators were increased, as reported by TASS with reference to the press service of the said company. The increase in volume allows you to increase ergonomics when placing the landing. Additional hinged elements allow you to increase the level of protection of military vehicles, troops and crew.

In fact, we are talking about a multifunctional unified platform (VPK-7829), which can be used to create various means of military equipment.

Recall that for the first time equipment on the Boomerang wheeled platform was demonstrated at the Victory Parade on May 9, 2015. The platform uses the YaMZ-780 engine, which allows you to move at speeds up to 100 km / h on the highway and up to 50 km / h on rough terrain. The combat weight before refinement is 34 tons. After increasing the armored hull, mass data has not yet been submitted.
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  1. Insurgent April 6 2020 07: 41 New
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    representatives of the "military-industrial complex" speak of an increased armored hull, which increases the buoyancy of armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles on the Boomerang platform.

    Actually, in the original version, the Boomerang case was already “somewhat larger and larger than the usual and“ classic ”BTR-80 / 82A ...
    1. svp67 April 6 2020 08: 19 New
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      Quote: Insurgent
      Actually, in the original version, the Boomerang case was already “somewhat larger and larger than the usual and“ classic ”BTR-80 / 82A ...

      "Several," it is still very softly said
    2. Oden280 April 6 2020 08: 24 New
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      You have to pay for everything. Especially for increasing protection and firepower ..
      1. Lopatov April 6 2020 08: 32 New
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        Quote: Oden280
        You have to pay for everything. Especially for increasing protection and firepower ..

        When you have to pay for an increase in protection by a decrease in protection, this is not a very good idea.
        1. _Ugene_ April 6 2020 10: 21 New
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          if you need mine protection, but it is definitely needed, then the bottom should be V-shaped, MRAP cannot be low in principle, hence the dimensions
          1. Lopatov April 6 2020 10: 43 New
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            Quote: _Ugene_
            if you need mine protection, but it is definitely needed, then the bottom should be V-shaped

            And how can the “V-shaped" save from modern mines?
            No way 8))))
            From modern mines help electromagnetic trawls, special dumps, removing mines from the roadbed. Well, sappers. The shape of the bottom is not.

            Quote: _Ugene_
            MRAP cannot be low in principle

            Well, yes, but that doesn’t really bother him, because the car is designed to move on roads. And occasional trips to loyal off-road. In the best case, SUVs
            Unlike BMP and BTR
            1. Ratmir_Ryazan April 6 2020 13: 47 New
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              And how can the “V-shaped" save from modern mines?


              The "V-shaped" bottom does not detect mines, but it disperses the shock wave and reduces its impact on the car and the crew inside, allowing them to remain alive in the event of an explosion.

              From modern mines help electromagnetic trawls, special dumps, removing mines from the roadbed. Well, sappers. The shape of the bottom is not.


              All this is ideal, and often technology has to move where a landmine can be laid which is blown up by wires and right after the sappers checked this section of the road.

              And the fact that the APC drives on roads is not surprising, since it is intended for patrolling and transporting personnel, and there are tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, and so on to break through the enemy’s front.

              A large number of losses in Chechnya were from landmines and it was very bad that we did not have equipment like Boomerang and Typhoon at that time.

              Modern jeeps such as the Tiger and armored personnel carriers should ensure the safety of the crew and landing personnel from at least 6-7 kg spent under the wheel, that is, from anti-tank mines. Jeeps and armored personnel carriers can be quickly repaired or new ones made, but people cannot be repaired quickly.
            2. ROSS_51 April 6 2020 15: 38 New
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              Quote: Spade

              And how can the “V-shaped" save from modern mines?
              No way 8))))
              From modern mines help electromagnetic trawls, special dumps, removing mines from the roadbed. Well, sappers. The shape of the bottom is not.

              It is a pity that your expert opinion is not known to almost all world developers of wheeled armored vehicles that use a V-shaped bottom design.
          2. YOUR April 6 2020 10: 55 New
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            Some kind of transfusion from empty to empty. That Su-57, that of Armata, that of Boomerang, of Derivation.
            Some kind of continuous improvement, modernization ....... and as a result, there are no cars in the troops
            1. prodi April 6 2020 11: 47 New
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              Yes, such a normal situation is a common dead end, nobody sees a way out
        2. Oden280 April 6 2020 13: 53 New
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          Where is the drop in protection here? If in raising the silhouette, it’s better to let it be bigger, this small-sized foil crap. No amenities, no protection.
        3. NEXUS April 6 2020 14: 43 New
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          Quote: Spade
          When you have to pay for an increase in protection by a decrease in protection, this is not a very good idea.

          Here I think the question of tasks and purpose. In addition to Boomerang drugs make mobile and Kurganets and Typhoons and Tigers ...
  2. Chaldon48 April 6 2020 07: 41 New
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    Floating, armored vehicles, as a rule, have poor armor, not able to withstand shelling from heavy machine guns.
  3. Well, let's hope so. I looked at the photo. At first it seemed that this ceremonial edging was drawn along the edge of the case, then it enlarged and understood - a cable. But on a cotton mount and directly above the wheel arch? Will it create problems if it flies from the eyes directly onto the wheels?
    1. Lopatov April 6 2020 08: 14 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      But on a cotton mount and directly above the wheel arch?

      This is a branded crazy idea of ​​army stick-keepers. They are sure that one of the thimbles of the cable in the transport position must necessarily hang on one of the hooks for towing. So the designer of the technology has to pervert strangely.

      In the troops, especially in the conduct of hostilities, they are guided by a different principle, “put it further, take it closer” Yes, and instead of having your torn cable stolen from the tankmen, do not hang the cable from a tanker 8)))
  4. Strashila April 6 2020 07: 54 New
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    “The combat weight before refinement is 34 tons. After increasing the armored hull, mass data have not yet been submitted.”, It seems that everything is going in the wrong direction, the mass of the wheeled vehicle approached the caterpillar tank whose protection is clearly higher.
    1. K-612-O April 6 2020 08: 08 New
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      So Stryker and Bradley, just 40 tons exceeded, the trend is this. Protecting l / s is a priority. And the 80-ke is still years old, how many years, and it was created according to other requirements.
      1. Lopatov April 6 2020 08: 16 New
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        Quote: K-612-O
        Keep l / s

        ?
        Rather, "create comfort" Weight increases primarily due to an increase in reserved volume
        1. svp67 April 6 2020 08: 22 New
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          Quote: Spade
          Weight increases primarily due to increased reserve volume

          And the heights ... and all this increases mine resistance, although it can be attributed to comfort. But initially, the “Boomerang” somehow didn’t feel very comfortable ... In such a “hut on chicken legs”, and the landing party is sitting very tight - knee to knee, and this is not very good, both in terms of explosion protection, and those same landings and landing
          1. Lopatov April 6 2020 08: 29 New
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            Quote: svp67
            And the heights ...

            This is also an armored volume
            1. svp67 April 6 2020 09: 56 New
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              Quote: Spade
              This is also an armored volume

              Not only, but clearance ...
              1. Lopatov April 6 2020 10: 12 New
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                And what does clearance have to do with the height of the hull?
                1. svp67 April 6 2020 10: 14 New
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                  Quote: Spade
                  And what does clearance have to do with the height of the hull?

                  To the overall height, everything matters ...
        2. Serg koma April 6 2020 08: 45 New
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          Quote: Spade
          due to increase in reserved volume
          If you make one armored personnel carrier from paper, and the second from steel, with the same reserved space, the mass (weight) will be different.
          And the "reserve volume", in this case, is increased for
          expansion of the armored hull increased displacement performance
          , i.e. with increasing mass in order to maintain buoyancy
          Displacement - the amount of water displaced by the underwater part of the hull. The mass of this amount of water is equal to the weight of the entire vessel, regardless of its size, material and shape. (According to the law of Archimedes)
          1. Lopatov April 6 2020 09: 08 New
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            Quote: Serg Koma
            If you make one armored personnel carrier from paper, and the second from steel, with the same reserved space, the mass (weight) will be different.

            Same?????
            1. Serg koma April 6 2020 11: 47 New
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              Quote: Spade
              Same?????
              Quote: Serg Koma
              with the same armored space, mass (weight) will be different.
              1. Grits April 6 2020 12: 36 New
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                Quote: Serg Koma
                with the same reserved space, the mass (weight) will be different.

                When a kilogram of cotton wool falls on your head, and then a kilogram of iron, then the questions about which is heavier fall by themselves.
              2. Lopatov April 6 2020 13: 28 New
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                Quote: Serg Koma
                Quote: Spade
                Same?????
                Quote: Serg Koma
                with the same armored space, mass (weight) will be different.

                Well, the fact of the matter is that the volume of the reserved is definitely larger. But not the same.
                1. Serg koma April 6 2020 15: 06 New
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                  Quote: Spade
                  the reserve volume is clearly larger.

                  Quote: Serg Koma
                  If you make one armored personnel carrier from paper, and second of steelAt the same armored space, mass (weight) will be different.

                  It seems everything is painted the first time. drinks
                2. Den717 April 6 2020 16: 27 New
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                  Quote: Spade
                  Well, the fact of the matter is that the volume of the reserved is definitely larger.

                  I read, read and thought, well, at least someone corrects the error and says that it is not “reserved” volume, but “reserved”? After all, the “armored” is the one behind the armor, and the reserved is the one under the armor. Or am I wrong? In essence, I think that infa is critically cut back. With such weight indicators, the western manufacturer usually declares resistance to small-caliber shells, or at least 14,5 mm bullets, in the frontal projection and from large-caliber bullets in the side projection. Somehow I watched the video, how the German Leopard famously maneuvers in reverse without assistance. At the same time, I remembered how, in my regiment, the driver of the BTR-60PB, forward-facing in a corner, blindly ran into IZH-2125 of its own battalion laughing It blew, it would not be bad to provide such visibility on our "armor" as that of the "German". Whoever controlled our vehicles (tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers) “in combat”, I think, will agree with me.
                  1. alexmach April 6 2020 18: 38 New
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                    Somehow I watched the video, how the German Leopard famously maneuvers in reverse without assistance. At the same time, I remembered how, in my regiment, the driver of the BTR-60PB, forward-facing in a corner, blindly ran into IZH-2125 of its own battalion

                    Well, you compared the conscript with the factory tester.
                    1. Den717 April 6 2020 19: 20 New
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                      Quote: alexmach
                      Well, you compared the conscript with the factory tester.

                      Conscript was a driver-instructor at the BOUP in the training regiment. But it's not that. And in the fact that the driver of the Leopard saw where he was going in reverse, and the driver of the APC did not see what was where he was turning.
                  2. Grigory_45 April 6 2020 23: 39 New
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                    Quote: Den717
                    it would not be bad to provide such visibility on our "armor" as that of the "German"

                    on promising platforms (Boomerang, Kurganets, Armata) this is implemented (all-round visibility, the ability to output images to any of the monitors from any of the cameras, at least front, at least side, at least back)
                    The upgraded tanks (T-72B3 and above, T-90M) also have a rear-view camera with output to the IMS monitor (near the driver)

                    But on the armor protection of the Boomerang question. No sane data can be found, despite the fact that the machine has the ability to install mounted ceramic panels. If you start from Typhoon-K, which is also not very small, but weighs 10 tons less and it claims protection against armor-piercing bullets with a caliber of 14,5 mm from a distance of 200 meters .... Then the Boomerang should in principle provide ballistic resistance of at least Typhoon, and in the frontal projection to keep at least a domestic 30-mm armor-piercing caliber
        3. alexmach April 6 2020 09: 02 New
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          Rather, "create comfort" Weight increases primarily due to an increase in reserved volume

          According to your comments, I can’t understand - do not approve of the trend? There, after all, this "create comfort" also includes "that everything would fit in." But the mass in 34t is certainly fantastic.
          1. Lopatov April 6 2020 09: 16 New
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            Quote: alexmach
            According to your comments, I can’t understand - do not approve of the trend?

            I do not approve of trying to ram a liter of milk into a half-liter bottle.
            If a normal infantry squad cannot be seated with normal comfort in a car of normal size and weight, you just need to put the squad on two vehicles
            And do not cut the compartment, seating him in a giant armored shed.
            If you want to save, it’s better to put the third battalions on armored trucks like "Typhoon"
            1. Strashila April 6 2020 10: 06 New
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              go the beaten paths of "comrades" from Ghana
              1. Lopatov April 6 2020 10: 18 New
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                We are already following them. Just Era design more professional. And so, the barn is a barn
          2. venik April 6 2020 11: 48 New
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            Quote: alexmach
            But the mass in 34t is certainly fantastic.

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            By modern standards - somehow not really! Even among wheeled 8x8:
            - Boxer (Germany / Netherlands) - 36.5 tons;
            - Eitan (Israel) - 36 tons;
            - VBCIs (France) - 32 tons;
            - Homeland (Finland) - to 27 tons;
            So the “Boomerang” against this background somehow does not look like something out of the ordinary ... One can certainly argue, giving examples of lighter cars (usually from 20 to 25 tons), but alas - the current trend is how times increased protection ... And here, without an increase in the combat mass - there is no way to do it!
            1. Grigory_45 April 6 2020 13: 04 New
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              Quote: venik
              By modern standards - somehow not very! Even among wheeled 8x8

              and how many are floating among them? After all, the MO does not remove the requirement for independent forcing of water barriers
              1. venik April 6 2020 13: 15 New
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                and how many are floating among them?

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                That's the "trick" among heavy - swim only "Patria" and "Boomerang" !!!
                1. Grigory_45 April 6 2020 13: 22 New
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                  Quote: venik
                  That’s the "trick" among the heavy ones - only "Patria" and "Boomerang" float !!!

                  for a purely land vehicle, the increase in mass is not so critical, it will only affect cross-country ability. Floating - on the ability to stay on the water. With such a mass, it is necessary to increase the displacement volume, which leads to an increase in the dimensions of the machine - and again to an increase in mass. We were once taught that armor with a mass of more than 25 tons is already sucks on the water. Because it is surprising that they prick, but continue to eat the cactus.

                  In my opinion, it is necessary to sacrifice something - either protection, or the ability to swim. Otherwise, we get simply indecent size armored shed
                  1. prodi April 6 2020 13: 27 New
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                    and even this and that alone lead to reduced patency
    2. zadorin1974 April 6 2020 08: 24 New
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      Good Scarecrow. The situation is reminiscent of a joke about the latest airliner, “now fasten your seat belts and with all this garbage we’ll try to take off!” My grandchildren will drive at the same pace at eighties. For ten years now they’ve been sawing this platform and everything is flying in a circle. at the parade, everything "shines".
  5. Vasyan1971 April 6 2020 08: 55 New
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    This "Boomer" thing in itself is some kind, it turns out. Constantly improve, modernize, refine .... It is clear that the master is always dissatisfied with his creation and will always find what to change for the better. But the best is the enemy of the good. The end of the edge is not visible! How long!
    1. Lopatov April 6 2020 09: 17 New
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      Quote: Vasyan1971
      How long!

      So far, the Tigers and the upgraded BTR-80 are buying.

      These are private traders, they need a profit.
    2. venik April 6 2020 12: 14 New
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      Quote: Vasyan1971
      The end of the edge is not visible! How long!

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      Probably as long until there is money to purchase a batch of at least a couple of hundred cars (the toy is not cheap, but the defense budget is also not rubber - and "that" is needed and "this is needed", but there is not enough money for EVERYTHING!) ... ...
  6. senima56 April 6 2020 13: 34 New
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    "There is no limit to perfection!" First shown five years ago .... and since then "improve, improve ....", and money flows and flows! Obviously, it is very beneficial for someone to "endlessly bring and improve" without bothering with serial production! negative
  7. Alexey from Perm April 6 2020 15: 14 New
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    These concept cards have already hesitated, the sense of them is zero. Only money from the budget is being pulled, but in the troops it was never there and it won’t be, another 10 years will pass, and they will continue to improve something