Developer Announces Boomerang Platform Innovations

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Developer Announces Boomerang Platform Innovations

BTR and BMP platform "Boomerang" went through a certain revision. We are talking about promising armored vehicles on a wheeled platform, which was developed by the Military Industrial Company ("MIC").

According to the latest information, the innovations of the Boomerang are primarily associated with the strengthening of the armor component when using armored vehicles in water operations. In particular, representatives of the military-industrial complex are talking about an increased armored hull, which increases the buoyancy of armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles on the Boomerang platform.



After the expansion of the armored corps, displacement indicators were increased, as reported by TASS with reference to the press service of the said company. The increase in volume allows you to increase ergonomics when placing the landing. Additional hinged elements allow you to increase the level of protection of military vehicles, troops and crew.

In fact, we are talking about a multifunctional unified platform (VPK-7829), which can be used to create various means of military equipment.

Recall that for the first time equipment on the Boomerang wheeled platform was demonstrated at the Victory Parade on May 9, 2015. The platform uses the YaMZ-780 engine, which allows you to move at speeds up to 100 km / h on the highway and up to 50 km / h on rough terrain. The combat weight before refinement is 34 tons. After increasing the armored hull, mass data has not yet been submitted.
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    1. +2
      April 6 2020 07: 41
      representatives of the "military-industrial complex" speak of an increased armored hull, which increases the buoyancy of armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles on the Boomerang platform.

      Actually, in the initial version, the Boomerang body was already "somewhat larger and bulkier" than the usual and "classic" BTR-80 / 82A ...
      1. +26
        April 6 2020 08: 19
        Quote: Insurgent
        Actually, in the initial version, the Boomerang body was already "somewhat larger and bulkier" than the usual and "classic" BTR-80 / 82A ...

        "Several", that's a very mild word
      2. +12
        April 6 2020 08: 24
        You have to pay for everything. Especially for increasing protection and firepower ..
        1. +13
          April 6 2020 08: 32
          Quote: Oden280
          You have to pay for everything. Especially for increasing protection and firepower ..

          When you have to pay for an increase in protection by a decrease in protection, this is not a very good idea.
          1. +10
            April 6 2020 10: 21
            if you need mine protection, but it is definitely needed, then the bottom should be V-shaped, MRAP cannot be low in principle, hence the dimensions
            1. -2
              April 6 2020 10: 43
              Quote: _Ugene_
              if you need mine protection, but it is definitely needed, then the bottom should be V-shaped

              And how can a "V" be able to save from modern mines?
              No way 8))))
              From modern mines help electromagnetic trawls, special dumps, removing mines from the roadbed. Well, sappers. The shape of the bottom is not.

              Quote: _Ugene_
              MRAP cannot be low in principle

              Well, yes, but it doesn't really bother him, because the car is designed to move on the roads. And occasional trips to loyal off-road. At best, "SUVs"
              Unlike BMP and BTR
              1. +2
                April 6 2020 13: 47
                And how can a "V" be able to save from modern mines?


                The "V-shaped" bottom does not detect mines, but it diffuses the shock wave and reduces its impact on the car and the crew inside, allowing them to remain alive in the event of an explosion.

                From modern mines help electromagnetic trawls, special dumps, removing mines from the roadbed. Well, sappers. The shape of the bottom is not.


                All this is ideal, and often technology has to move where a landmine can be laid which is blown up by wires and right after the sappers checked this section of the road.

                And the fact that the APC drives on roads is not surprising, since it is intended for patrolling and transporting personnel, and there are tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, and so on to break through the enemy’s front.

                A large number of losses in Chechnya were from landmines and it was very bad that we did not have equipment like Boomerang and Typhoon at that time.

                Modern jeeps such as the Tiger and armored personnel carriers should ensure the safety of the crew and landing personnel from at least 6-7 kg spent under the wheel, that is, from anti-tank mines. Jeeps and armored personnel carriers can be quickly repaired or new ones made, but people cannot be repaired quickly.
              2. 0
                April 6 2020 15: 38
                Quote: Spade

                And how can a "V" be able to save from modern mines?
                No way 8))))
                From modern mines help electromagnetic trawls, special dumps, removing mines from the roadbed. Well, sappers. The shape of the bottom is not.

                It is a pity that your expert opinion is not known to almost all world developers of wheeled armored vehicles that use a V-shaped bottom design.
            2. +18
              April 6 2020 10: 55
              Some kind of transfusion from empty to empty. That Su-57, that of Armata, that of Boomerang, of Derivation.
              Some kind of continuous improvement, modernization ....... and as a result, there are no cars in the troops
              1. +2
                April 6 2020 11: 47
                Yes, such a normal situation is a common dead end, nobody sees a way out
          2. 0
            April 6 2020 13: 53
            Where is the drop in protection here? If in raising the silhouette, it’s better to let it be bigger, this small-sized foil crap. No amenities, no protection.
          3. -1
            April 6 2020 14: 43
            Quote: Spade
            When you have to pay for an increase in protection by a decrease in protection, this is not a very good idea.

            Here I think the question of tasks and purpose. In addition to Boomerang drugs make mobile and Kurganets and Typhoons and Tigers ...
    2. -1
      April 6 2020 07: 41
      Floating, armored vehicles, as a rule, have poor armor, not able to withstand shelling from heavy machine guns.
    3. -1
      April 6 2020 07: 42
      Well, let's hope so. I looked at the photo. At first it seemed that this ceremonial edging was drawn along the edge of the case, then it enlarged and understood - a cable. But on a cotton mount and directly above the wheel arch? Will it create problems if it flies from the eyes directly onto the wheels?
      1. +2
        April 6 2020 08: 14
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        But on a cotton mount and directly above the wheel arch?

        This is a branded crazy idea of ​​army stick-keepers. They are sure that one of the thimbles of the cable in the transport position must necessarily hang on one of the hooks for towing. So the designer of the technology has to pervert strangely.

        In the troops, especially in the conduct of hostilities, they are guided by a different principle, "you put it further, you take it closer" And you can't hang a rope stolen from tankers instead of your torn cable in a regular place 8)))
    4. +1
      April 6 2020 07: 54
      "The combat weight before the revision is 34 tons. After the increase in the armored hull, data on the mass has not yet been presented." It seems that everything is going in the wrong direction, in terms of mass, the wheeled vehicle approached the tracked tank, which is clearly better protected.
      1. +5
        April 6 2020 08: 08
        So Stryker and Bradley, just 40 tons exceeded, the trend is this. Protecting l / s is a priority. And the 80-ke is still years old, how many years, and it was created according to other requirements.
        1. -1
          April 6 2020 08: 16
          Quote: K-612-O
          Keep l / s

          ?
          Rather, "create comfort" The weight increases primarily due to the increase in the reserve volume
          1. +1
            April 6 2020 08: 22
            Quote: Spade
            Weight increases primarily due to increased reserve volume

            And heights ... and all this increases mine resistance, although it can be attributed to comfort. But initially the "Boomerang" was somehow not very comfortable ... In such a "hut on chicken legs", and the landing force sits very tightly - knee-to-knee, and this is not very good, both in terms of explosion protection and those same landing and landing
            1. -1
              April 6 2020 08: 29
              Quote: svp67
              And the heights ...

              This is also an armored volume
              1. +2
                April 6 2020 09: 56
                Quote: Spade
                This is also an armored volume

                Not only, but clearance ...
                1. 0
                  April 6 2020 10: 12
                  And what does clearance have to do with the height of the hull?
                  1. +8
                    April 6 2020 10: 14
                    Quote: Spade
                    And what does clearance have to do with the height of the hull?

                    To the overall height, everything matters ...
          2. +2
            April 6 2020 08: 45
            Quote: Spade
            due to increase in reserved volume
            If you make one armored personnel carrier from paper, and the second from steel, with the same reserved space, the mass (weight) will be different.
            And the "reserve volume", in this case, is increased for
            expansion of the armored hull increased displacement performance
            , i.e. with increasing mass in order to maintain buoyancy
            Displacement - the amount of water displaced by the underwater part of the hull. The mass of this amount of water is equal to the weight of the entire vessel, regardless of its size, material and shape. (According to the law of Archimedes)
            1. -1
              April 6 2020 09: 08
              Quote: Serg Koma
              If you make one armored personnel carrier from paper, and the second from steel, with the same reserved space, the mass (weight) will be different.

              Same?????
              1. +2
                April 6 2020 11: 47
                Quote: Spade
                Same?????
                Quote: Serg Koma
                with the same armored space, mass (weight) will be different.
                1. +2
                  April 6 2020 12: 36
                  Quote: Serg Koma
                  with the same reserved space, the mass (weight) will be different.

                  When a kilogram of cotton wool falls on your head, and then a kilogram of iron, then the questions about which is heavier fall by themselves.
                2. 0
                  April 6 2020 13: 28
                  Quote: Serg Koma
                  Quote: Spade
                  Same?????
                  Quote: Serg Koma
                  with the same armored space, mass (weight) will be different.

                  Well, the fact of the matter is that the volume of the reserved is definitely larger. But not the same.
                  1. 0
                    April 6 2020 15: 06
                    Quote: Spade
                    the reserve volume is clearly larger.

                    Quote: Serg Koma
                    If you make one armored personnel carrier from paper, and second of steelAt the same armored space, mass (weight) will be different.

                    It seems everything is painted the first time. drinks
                  2. +1
                    April 6 2020 16: 27
                    Quote: Spade
                    Well, the fact of the matter is that the volume of the reserved is definitely larger.

                    I read, read and thought, well, at least someone will correct the mistake and say that it is not a "reserved" volume, but a "reserved" one? After all, "zabronevoy" is the one behind the armor, and the reserved one is the one under the armor. Or am I wrong? As a matter of fact, I think that infa is critically cut. With such weight indicators, the Western manufacturer usually declares resistance against small-caliber projectiles, or at least 14,5 mm bullets, in the frontal projection and from large-caliber bullets in the lateral projection. Once I watched a video of a German Leopard dashingly maneuvering in reverse without assistance. At the same time, I remembered how in my regiment the driver of the BTR-60PB in a forward motion in a turn blindly ran over the IZH-2125 of his own battalion commander laughing Blow, it would not be bad to provide our "armor" with such visibility as the "German". Whoever drove our vehicles (tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers) "in combat", I think, will agree with me.
                    1. 0
                      April 6 2020 18: 38
                      Somehow I watched the video, how the German Leopard famously maneuvers in reverse without assistance. At the same time, I remembered how, in my regiment, the driver of the BTR-60PB, forward-facing in a corner, blindly ran into IZH-2125 of its own battalion

                      Well, you compared the conscript with the factory tester.
                      1. 0
                        April 6 2020 19: 20
                        Quote: alexmach
                        Well, you compared the conscript with the factory tester.

                        Conscript was a driver-instructor at the BOUP in the training regiment. But it's not that. And in the fact that the driver of the Leopard saw where he was going in reverse, and the driver of the APC did not see what was where he was turning.
                    2. 0
                      April 6 2020 23: 39
                      Quote: Den717
                      it would not be bad to provide our "armor" with the same visibility as the "German"

                      on promising platforms (Boomerang, Kurganets, Armata) this is implemented (all-round visibility, the ability to output images to any of the monitors from any of the cameras, at least front, at least side, at least back)
                      The upgraded tanks (T-72B3 and above, T-90M) also have a rear-view camera with output to the IMS monitor (near the driver)

                      But on the armor protection of the Boomerang question. No sane data can be found, despite the fact that the machine has the ability to install mounted ceramic panels. If you start from Typhoon-K, which is also not very small, but weighs 10 tons less and it claims protection against armor-piercing bullets with a caliber of 14,5 mm from a distance of 200 meters .... Then the Boomerang should in principle provide ballistic resistance of at least Typhoon, and in the frontal projection to keep at least a domestic 30-mm armor-piercing caliber
          3. +1
            April 6 2020 09: 02
            Rather, "create comfort" The weight increases primarily due to the increase in the reserve volume

            Based on your comments, I can't understand - don't you approve of the trend? There, after all, this "to create comfort" includes "that everything that needs to fit in." But the mass of 34 tons is certainly fantastic.
            1. +6
              April 6 2020 09: 16
              Quote: alexmach
              According to your comments, I can’t understand - do not approve of the trend?

              I do not approve of trying to ram a liter of milk into a half-liter bottle.
              If a normal infantry squad cannot be seated with normal comfort in a car of normal size and weight, you just need to put the squad on two vehicles
              And do not cut the compartment, seating him in a giant armored shed.
              If you want to save money, it is better to put the third battalions on armored trucks of the Typhoon type
              1. +6
                April 6 2020 10: 06
                follow the beaten path of "comrades" from Ghana
                1. +1
                  April 6 2020 10: 18
                  We are already following them. Just Era design more professional. And so, the barn is a barn
            2. +3
              April 6 2020 11: 48
              Quote: alexmach
              But the mass in 34t is certainly fantastic.

              ======
              By modern standards - somehow not really! Even among wheeled 8x8:
              - Boxer (Germany / Netherlands) - 36.5 tons;
              - eitan (Israel) - 36 tons;
              - VBCIs (France) - 32 tons;
              - Homeland (Finland) - to 27 tons;
              So, against this background, "Boomerang" somehow does not look like "out of the ordinary" ... You can of course object by giving examples of lighter machines (usually from 20 to 25 tons), but alas - the trend of today - how once an increase in protection ... And here you cannot do without an increase in combat mass!
              1. +2
                April 6 2020 13: 04
                Quote: venik
                By modern standards - somehow not very! Even among wheeled 8x8

                and how many are floating among them? After all, the MO does not remove the requirement for independent forcing of water barriers
                1. +2
                  April 6 2020 13: 15
                  Quote: Gregory_45
                  and how many are floating among them?

                  =======
                  This is the "trick" that among heavy - only "Patria" and "Boomerang" float !!!
                  1. +5
                    April 6 2020 13: 22
                    Quote: venik
                    The thing is that among the heavy ones - only "Patria" and "Boomerang" float !!!

                    for a purely land vehicle, the increase in mass is not so critical, it will only affect cross-country ability. Floating - on the ability to stay on the water. With such a mass, it is necessary to increase the displacement volume, which leads to an increase in the dimensions of the machine - and again to an increase in mass. We were once taught that armor with a mass of more than 25 tons is already sucks on the water. Because it is surprising that they prick, but continue to eat the cactus.

                    In my opinion, it is necessary to sacrifice something - either protection, or the ability to swim. Otherwise, we get simply indecent size armored shed
                    1. +1
                      April 6 2020 13: 27
                      and even this and that alone lead to reduced patency
      2. -4
        April 6 2020 08: 24
        Good Scarecrow. The situation resembles an anecdote about the newest airliner "and now fasten your seat belts and with all this garbage we will try to take off!" My grandchildren will also be driving at this rate at the eighties. at the parade, everything "shines".
    5. -5
      April 6 2020 08: 55
      This "Boomer" is a kind of thing in itself, it turns out. They constantly improve, modernize, modify ... It is clear that the master is always dissatisfied with his creation and will always find something to change for the better. But the best is the enemy of the good. The end of the edge is not visible! How long!
      1. 0
        April 6 2020 09: 17
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        How long!

        While "Tigers" and modernized BTR-80 are being bought.

        These are private traders, they need a profit.
      2. -1
        April 6 2020 12: 14
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        The end of the edge is not visible! How long!

        =======
        Probably as long until there is money for the purchase of a batch of at least a couple of hundred cars (the toy is not cheap, and the defense budget - it is also not rubber - and "this" is needed and "this is needed", but there is not enough money for EVERYTHING!) ... ...
    6. +2
      April 6 2020 13: 34
      "There is no limit to perfection!" It was first shown five years ago .... and since then "they are improving, improving ....", and money is flowing and flowing! Obviously, it is very profitable for someone to "endlessly bring and improve" without bothering with mass production! negative
    7. +2
      April 6 2020 15: 14
      These concept cards have already hesitated, the sense of them is zero. Only money from the budget is being pulled, but in the troops it was never there and it won’t be, another 10 years will pass, and they will continue to improve something

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