“They completely defeated Russia”: the 93rd brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces transfers “Turkish experience”

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The command of the 93rd separate mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "Kholodny Yar" shared the adopted "stratagems" - the rules of warfare, following which is able to ensure victory over the enemy.

According to him, the compound is armed with high-precision models of modern anti-tank weaponswhich allegedly "constantly proves its dexterity" in the fight against Russian troops. Having decided to bring the experience gained in the battles into the mass of soldiers, the ATGM calculations were instructed to teach ordinary infantrymen the art of owning the corresponding products. It is believed that in the end, fighters at the forefront will be able to independently use anti-tank systems.



The command justifies its decision by the need for the widespread introduction of "high technologies" into the army. Operation Spring Shield is cited as an example: it is alleged that then “the Turkish army, with the help of shock drones utterly smashed Russian equipment in Syria.”

Soviet norms of expenditures of BC, when shells literally bombarded the enemy, and not aiming, are a thing of the past. For Ukraine, this is a great luxury. Therefore, the future lies with high-precision weapons and specialists who know how to use them.

- noted in the 93rd brigade, while ignoring the high cost of ATGMs.

At the same time, the “transfer of the Turkish experience” remains unclear, given the fact that Idlib of the Turkish Armed Forces used shock drones, and in this case we are talking about ATGM.

On the Facebook page assigned to it, there are photos of the anti-tank weapons armed with this compound, which, judging by the command, in the conditions of the collapse of the Ukrainian army have already turned into a high-tech.


ATGM "Stugna-P" design KB "Luch"



SPTRK "Amulet" on the chassis of the BRDM-2 KB "Luch"



ATGM “Corsair” Design Bureau “Luch”



Soviet anti-tank systems "Metis" and "Corsair"



The warhead of the Soviet SPTRK "Competition" on the BRDM-2 chassis



SPTRK on chassis CF moto TRACKER
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  1. +69
    April 5 2020 16: 41
    One atovets comes up to another and asks, in what cauldron did you fight? Briefly about "power and strength" ukrovoisk wassat
    1. +27
      April 5 2020 16: 53
      I will add about "intellectual power"
      Soviet norms of expenditures of BC, when shells literally bombarded the enemy, and not aiming, are a thing of the past. For Ukraine, this is a great luxury. Therefore, the future lies with high-precision weapons and specialists who know how to use them.
      Therefore, they will fall asleep not with shells, they are few, but with ATGMs, they are even smaller.
      1. +34
        April 5 2020 17: 05
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Therefore, they will fall asleep not with shells, they are few, but with ATGMs, they are even smaller.

        They have worse
        1. +4
          April 5 2020 22: 22
          [quote = Lipchanin] Lipchanin (Sergey) Today, 17:05 NEW
          "Destroyed" two companies or three companies - depends on the strength of the previously drunk! request
      2. +13
        April 5 2020 17: 33
        Given the fact that one rocket costs 500 Bandera tugriks, very dubious savings.
        1. +14
          April 5 2020 17: 51
          Termi NahTer (Nikolai)
          No matter how much they cost, they still apply. An article on VO a little earlier:
          "Ukrainian security forces used anti-tank systems in the Kalinovo area and transferred armored vehicles to the JFO zone"
          I think that there is no other way except for the disposal of banderlogov. Regarding "dubious savings" - they will always find someone to rob
          1. +7
            April 5 2020 17: 55
            Quote: Bumblebee_3
            they will always find someone to rob

            1. +15
              April 5 2020 18: 57
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Quote: Bumblebee_3
              they will always find someone to rob


              It's "Mad Max" in Ukrainian ... laughing
              1. +3
                April 5 2020 19: 36
                Quote: Paul Siebert
                It's "Mad Max" in Ukrainian ...

                And if you give him that? laughing
                1. +6
                  April 5 2020 19: 39
                  None of the Mad Mad Max staff members would dare to do this!
                  Svidomochny greed as it is ...
                  I don’t bite ... laughing
                  1. +8
                    April 5 2020 19: 50
                    Quote: Paul Siebert
                    I don’t bite it, I’ll bite it.

                2. +1
                  April 5 2020 21: 46
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  And if you give him that?

                  Well Volga, she’s so ... Gazelle will envy ...
              2. +1
                April 5 2020 19: 36
                Then "Mad Panas". hi
                1. 0
                  April 5 2020 20: 17
                  With the prefix "MAROJOR"
              3. -18
                April 5 2020 20: 27
                She's a greedy, insane marauder cozap!
                1. 0
                  April 5 2020 20: 46
                  Yes, essentially the same thing
                2. -7
                  April 5 2020 23: 09
                  The minuses went, the first wave of marauders!
                  1. +3
                    April 6 2020 10: 13
                    А
                    Quote: Fantazer911
                    The minuses went, the first wave of marauders!

                    And do you expect that for nonsense you will put pluses?
                    1. -3
                      April 6 2020 10: 22
                      If you don’t like koment, then pass by, as I understand it, and if I minus then I write for what!
              4. 0
                April 6 2020 00: 36
                Safari shorty sd 33 reliable dviglo. I don’t know about gasoline. Did not own.
              5. +1
                April 6 2020 07: 24
                Mad Maksyuk
            2. +8
              April 5 2020 20: 25
              These our heroes chopped off the tail of fascism.
              1. +22
                April 5 2020 20: 48
                Quote: tihonmarine
                These our heroes chopped off the tail of fascism.

                1. +2
                  April 6 2020 07: 47
                  they are on the other side of the photo
                  1. +1
                    April 6 2020 09: 22
                    Quote: tots
                    they are on the other side of the photo

                    They were not even allowed on the other side of the photo. Wrong item.
                2. -1
                  April 6 2020 13: 53
                  Did you study at school? That's right - a trident!
                  1. ANB
                    0
                    April 7 2020 22: 55
                    All right. The right trident. But for some reason Bandera’s trident.
                    1. 0
                      April 15 2020 18: 38
                      Tse on hohlyatsky!
          2. +3
            April 5 2020 19: 21
            Apply then apply, only the Banderland budget is "not rubber". To shoot a missile of such a value at a car or a dugout, provided that it is not known whether someone is empty or empty, and not for long before the default.
      3. +2
        April 6 2020 01: 53
        Well, nothing. The photos are so beautiful.
        1. 0
          April 6 2020 09: 27
          Quote: Co-Pilot
          Well, nothing. The photos are so beautiful.

          Yeah, they pulled a racket, and all of Ukraine was left for a month without medical masks.
      4. 0
        April 7 2020 23: 25
        I think with words they will fall asleep, with words! And from around the corner!
    2. +17
      April 5 2020 16: 57
      "The Turkish army with the help of shock drones utterly defeated Russian equipment in Syria."

      Oriental tales. But someone used to ride on the ears and can not do otherwise. What Assad could not be discarded as promised or have not promised? They gave the word, they took the word away.
      Balabalism in one word.
      ATGM calculations were instructed to train ordinary infantrymen in the art of owning the corresponding products.

      And what is the innovation, or have not used ATGMs before?
      The photo shows the level of the "high-tech" army. Bums with ATGMs.
      1. +8
        April 5 2020 17: 06
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        The photo directly shows the level of the "high-tech" army

        1. +6
          April 5 2020 17: 28
          Bosots, they are bosots. What can be discussed here.
        2. +1
          April 5 2020 22: 25
          Quote: Lipchanin
          high-tech army level

          It can move off the asphalt !?
    3. +17
      April 5 2020 17: 04
      "Therefore, the future belongs to high-precision weapons and specialists who know how to use them" - it's hard to disagree with this .. just how does this apply to the APU ??
      1. +5
        April 5 2020 20: 32
        Quote: Yang Yangov
        Therefore, the future lies with precision weapons

        But what a problem, now they will sell the land, buy a couple of dozen high-tech "Jewels", put their teeth on the shelf, and ride in pots with a mask on their face. Kyrdyk outskirts, inshallah.
    4. 0
      April 5 2020 19: 55
      Nothing ... The law was adopted.
      We’ll sell the Ukrainian fellow infection. And if you’ve got bagato ammunition ... And if you want to shoot at a rag.
    5. 0
      April 6 2020 00: 53
      I personally attended, a lot is not true, but most are true, let's talk?
  2. +9
    April 5 2020 16: 43
    Who smashed whom in Ukrainian wet dreams?))

    The Soviet standards of expenditures of the BC, when shells literally bombarded the enemy, and not aiming, are a thing of the past. For Ukraine, this is a great luxury.


    So tell me - we are damned homeless people and expensive BC we can not afford.
    1. +10
      April 5 2020 17: 09
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      So tell me - we are damned homeless people and expensive BC we can not afford.

      Well, if only this
      1. +9
        April 5 2020 17: 11
        Tachanka-Rostov)))
        Mokik "Prdunya" laughing
        1. +1
          April 5 2020 17: 23
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Tachanka-Rostov)))
          Mokik "Prdunya" laughing

          Are you scared? laughing
          1. +10
            April 5 2020 17: 25
            Highly. Already sweated. Don't show anymore such a powerful technique, the fruit of developing a gloomy genius laughing
            1. +2
              April 5 2020 17: 29
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              Highly. Already sweated. Don't show anymore such a powerful technique, the fruit of developing a gloomy genius laughing

              Well then I'll scare
              1. +5
                April 5 2020 17: 35
                Iron Caput)))
                1. 0
                  April 5 2020 17: 38
                  And this is a promising project
                  1. +1
                    April 5 2020 17: 45
                    Armored hoof mountain-underwater all-weather shushpanzer)))
                    1. 0
                      April 5 2020 17: 59
                      And this is a PR company
              2. +1
                April 5 2020 18: 31
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Well then I'll scare

                Eeeeee! No need here! The Space Marine Landrader has nothing to do with these yellow-black heretics!
                They exclusively "produce" this kind of thing:
                1. +4
                  April 5 2020 19: 40
                  Quote: Albert1988
                  They exclusively "produce" this kind of thing:

                  And such

                  And this is the driver
                  1. 0
                    April 10 2020 12: 46
                    Now this is more like the truth))))
        2. +4
          April 5 2020 22: 30
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Tachanka-Rostov)))

          Here is Tachanka-Rostovite! And "that" - crap twisted with scotch tape!
      2. +2
        April 5 2020 19: 31
        Do the Sumerians still have the Tula motor scooters of the middle of the last century "Ant"? Not otherwise than from the strategic reserve was reactivated.
        1. +2
          April 5 2020 19: 53
          Quote: Aviator_
          Not otherwise than from the strategic reserve was re-opened.

          Or stole
  3. +10
    April 5 2020 16: 47
    Brains must be attached to any weapon, so there is clearly a shortage in the APU ...
    1. +6
      April 5 2020 17: 00
      Are you talking about the army? They have a shortage in the top positions, but you want the army to have a set.
      1. +7
        April 5 2020 17: 04
        On the contrary, it is beneficial for us that they have a brain deficit.
      2. +7
        April 5 2020 17: 23
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        there are not enough staff in top positions, and you want the kit to be in the army.

        But there are more admirals than ships laughing
      3. +3
        April 5 2020 18: 08
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        They have a shortage in top positions, and you want the army to have a set.

        The army is a mirror image of the state.
  4. +11
    April 5 2020 16: 48
    Some have delirium from the morning, others at night.
    There are those who "roll" around the clock.
    The author described an obvious example of this phenomenon.
  5. +8
    April 5 2020 16: 49
    I am embarrassed to ask: why is this propaganda of the APU here?
    Especially with such nonsense again about the broken divisions of armored horse divers?

    Are you going to open the blog "Punishers' everyday life?"
    1. +4
      April 5 2020 17: 02
      With such landscapes and funny faces in the photo, it’s rather an anti-propaganda campaign. Horror story horror movie.
      1. +10
        April 5 2020 17: 25
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        With such landscapes and faces in the photo, it is more likely an anti-propaganda.

        Here are the real "heroes" laughing
        1. +1
          April 6 2020 03: 37
          They aim at each other's eggs.
          I wonder why? What was the reason for this?
  6. +3
    April 5 2020 16: 50
    Having decided to bring the experience gained in the battles into the mass of soldiers, the ATGM calculations were instructed to teach ordinary infantrymen the art of owning the corresponding products. It is believed that in the end, fighters at the forefront will be able to independently use anti-tank systems.
    And they will give a shoot! And then art of ownership not to see the brigade commander for a long time. However, there the goal is different. Crow? request
    1. +7
      April 5 2020 17: 11
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      And they will give a shoot!

      So? lol
  7. +7
    April 5 2020 17: 00
    6 years without days off every day they win ... They all won, Shoigu and Putin personally twice as many, and neither Donbass nor Crimea can be seen laughing
    1. +5
      April 5 2020 17: 12
      Quote: Cowbra
      6 years without days off every day they win ... They all won, Shoigu and Putin personally twice as many, and neither Donbass nor Crimea can be seen laughing

      They would have freed the Donbass, but their Great Ukrainian Wall stopped ...
      1. +6
        April 5 2020 17: 18
        Quote: 1976AG
        Great Ukrainian Wall

        ... in common parlance - "Rabbit Tyn" laughing
    2. +4
      April 5 2020 17: 13
      Quote: Cowbra
      6 years without days off every day they win ... Everyone won, Shoigu and Putin personally twice as much,

      1. +4
        April 5 2020 19: 12
        We'll be over very soon with that count! :) And the submarines already in 2014 went into minus, and now there are already thousandth negative numbers. The Herashchenian Euro-warrior is "great".
        1. 0
          April 5 2020 19: 57
          They still have a tricky plan.
        2. +1
          April 5 2020 22: 33
          Quote: Peter is not the first
          Very soon we will end with such calculations! :)

          Already! Are over crying Let's go to the second round! request
  8. +10
    April 5 2020 17: 08
    Judging by how the weapons are held laughing to entrust them with a scrap metal, terribly, they will be slaughtered, and not that some
    1. +11
      April 5 2020 17: 13
      Quote: Proton
      Judging by the way they hold weapons laughing, they trust them to slice them scary, they will slaughter themselves, not that some

      At they are looking for a rocket
      Like "b ... ling, just turned away ..."

      TPK on the launcher is empty.
    2. +9
      April 5 2020 17: 21
      Hold - okay. Spread already, lay out again
      1. +3
        April 5 2020 17: 35
        Masterpiece !!!! D. ebelism rolls over laughing
        1. +2
          April 5 2020 19: 29
          It seems to me that the video is staged. Even a bear can be taught to ride a bike and a monkey to play the guitar. And it’s just fooling around, but still morons.
          1. +5
            April 5 2020 19: 55
            Do not stop!))))) There are those who can’t walk in the foot and start without standing. And here is a clear sign of pokuizma medical commission! And this is really dangerous for his colleagues. He is sure to get into the charger when it isn’t. And maybe not to the charger.
          2. +2
            April 5 2020 19: 58
            Such videos at the APU dofiga. There are also staged ones, but obviously not all. In general, any citizen of Ukraine will tell you that ragulie is distinguished by "intelligence and ingenuity." They can break off more abruptly))) I personally observed one who could not open a pack of cigarettes - it was sealed! So he chewed off the top of the pack with his teeth, sitting content like a boa constrictor - he got to the cigarettes. Sober ... just a fool wink
      2. +3
        April 5 2020 17: 39
        One thing I want to say is morons.
      3. +2
        April 6 2020 03: 42
        He doesn’t want the kid to go to war, so he’s fooling around. Would you take one? Yes, in the kitchen to drag slops, look after pigs, nothing more. This is what it is doing. Just not in the trenches.
        Great characterizes patriotism and the desire of Donbass to return.
    3. +1
      April 5 2020 20: 01
      Quote: Proton
      Judging by how the weapons are held

    4. +1
      April 6 2020 12: 55
      Quote: Proton
      Judging by how they hold weapons laughing, they trust the scruff of the toast

      As the "partners" taught in Yavorsky - and they keep it.
  9. +7
    April 5 2020 17: 17
    Be sure to share how to get into one boiler after another. And as you there in the tail and mane hollow do not forget to tell.
  10. +5
    April 5 2020 17: 29
    I don’t even want to prove something to dolbyotyaly, all the same, these banderlogs do not understand anything in human language.
  11. +3
    April 5 2020 17: 36
    I am generally surprised by all this hype around the ATGM. Sense from them?
    That is, what they are intended for is understandable, but after all, the Armed Forces of the DPR and LPR are not conducting any offensive actions and will not be in the foreseeable future, simply because there are few of them, and therefore there will be no tank attacks on the positions of the Armed Forces, so there will be no practical benefit from the same "Javelins" are not present.
    1. +1
      April 5 2020 17: 58
      Quote: Dart2027
      I am generally surprised by all this hype around the ATGM. Sense from them?

      I'm afraid you are somewhat misjudging the role of anti-tank systems.
      This is not some kind of defense against TNCs.

      This is a means of attack. Able to hit with precision any point target.
      1. 0
        April 5 2020 18: 13
        Quote: Spade
        This is a means of attack. Able to hit with precision any point target.

        In this case, there really can be some sense from them, but even in this case there is more hype than threats.
      2. +1
        April 5 2020 20: 26
        I agree. You could say so -PTRK is a long-range sniper rifle.
        1. KCA
          +1
          April 6 2020 07: 57
          A good rifle, the cost of a Jewelin shot is $ 70, a shot from an SVD with a target cartridge of 000 cents, a shot from an SVLK-50S is more expensive, but not at all a thousand dollars
          1. 0
            April 6 2020 12: 43
            And how much is the life of a soldier? 9M111 was still used in Afghanistan to destroy machine gun fire points of dushmans. In general, the war itself is an expensive undertaking.
            1. KCA
              0
              April 6 2020 13: 08
              Well, I was still in school when the troops withdrew from Afghanistan, but there are doubts that the firing points were suppressed by cumulative missiles, pillboxes, bunkers, I still agree, but the machine gunner
              1. 0
                April 6 2020 14: 59
                Read the memoirs of Colonel Alexander Musienko. At a later period, Chechnya, in the "Soldier of Fortune" magazine there was an article by Colonel Tsekhanovich, although there was a "Chrysanthemum" complex.
              2. 0
                April 6 2020 15: 52
                When ATGMs thought of using it as a long-range high-precision guided weapon, the developers immediately sawed off missiles with a high-explosive and high-explosive fragmentation warhead. Now, it seems, some ATGMs have missiles, even with warhead warheads.
    2. +2
      April 5 2020 18: 02
      Have you forgotten about "Ahressor"?
      Was it a ditch that they were digging and building a fence?
      Russia, now, not the first year already, will attack
      1. +2
        April 5 2020 19: 35
        Well, that reminded. Does anyone know how it is with the moat and fence at the border?
    3. +5
      April 5 2020 18: 40
      Quote: Dart2027
      so there is no practical benefit from the same "Javelins".

      1. Write off;
      2. Hide;
      3. Sell.

      Benefit, maybe not, but there is a benefit.
  12. +4
    April 5 2020 17: 56
    At the same time, the “transfer of the Turkish experience” remains unclear, given the fact that Idlib of the Turkish Armed Forces used shock drones, and in this case we are talking about ATGM.


    They believe that these are similar types of weapons. lol
    1. +7
      April 5 2020 18: 12
      UAVs fly while there is no air defense.
      The heroes are babbling until the artillery works on them.
  13. +5
    April 5 2020 18: 03
    Well, yes .... how are they the first masters to shoot bullets from mortar shells here ... it’s interesting how many hours will Russia need for the Bandera army to cease to exist ....?
    1. +1
      April 5 2020 19: 36
      Experience shows that not fast. They will scatter through the forests, make caches, dugouts and make night outings. In the afternoon they are peaceful inhabitants, and at night they are bandits. They were caught in the forests after the Second World War until the 60s.
      1. +1
        April 6 2020 00: 45
        in 73 but in Lithuania.
  14. +6
    April 5 2020 18: 11
    The golf machine and the SPTRK installed on it look cool) The only interesting thing is: can she shoot on the go, do these things rotate or not and will it fail if I shoot, in general it would be interesting to watch a video with her run on the training ground )))
    1. +1
      April 5 2020 20: 52
      Quote: Mechnocleap
      The only interesting thing is: can she shoot on the go

      "Bassoons" and "Metis" cannot shoot on the move in principle, even if the aiming device is stabilized. For the wire will not give
      1. +1
        April 5 2020 21: 09
        This is Stugna-P - semi-active laser guidance or via a television channel. By the way, the guidance system is produced by "SoyuznechGov", Minsk.
        In general, this is ukatayka. I recently wrote about her. You can start with the fact that the load capacity of the quadric is 230 kilos. Think for yourself - starting 15 kilos, 30 - 1 (one) rocket, two fighters - 200 kilos is the minimum. Where and how she can go is a mystery
        1. +1
          April 5 2020 22: 53
          Quote: Cowbra
          This is Stugna-P

          This is in its purest form "Bassoon"

          Quote: Cowbra
          Stugna-P - semi-active guidance by laser or on a television channel.

          There is a laser beam, like on the "Cornet"

          Quote: Cowbra
          By the way, the guidance system is produced by "SoyuznechGov", Minsk.

          Control device of Minsk development. "Pelenga" Very good device, better than "Kornet" one. At one time, they could not come to an agreement with ours, they agreed with the Ukrainians. Because rockets were fired only in our country and in Ukraine.
          Now, as far as I heard, the Ukrainians of the Belarusians threw and didn’t just start producing them themselves, they shared technologies with Poles and Turks
      2. +1
        April 5 2020 21: 55
        "Bassoons" and "Metis" cannot shoot on the move in principle,

        Well, why they can’t, in principle they can. It doesn’t, yes. And it seems to me that it is precisely because of the guidance device because the competition can shoot from the water.
        1. 0
          April 5 2020 22: 45
          Quote: bk316
          Well, why they can’t, in principle they can.

          The wire will break

          Quote: bk316
          because the competition can shoot from the water.

          But it won’t break in the water. Rather, the likelihood of such a low.
          1. +1
            April 6 2020 15: 22
            Rather, the likelihood of such a low.

            This is what I’m saying that in principle can.
            If you go slowly and on the asphalt, it’s even very possible right on the target.
            And we broke the wires and in place. laughing
    2. -1
      April 6 2020 04: 01
      This is the cheapest crap. Rides generally not for long because of the quality of materials and assembly. Overseas they are sometimes bought but only for two years or a year. Because they rarely leave the repair and there again until the warranty does not care. Their famous salt-sweating or god knows than Chinese aluminum. Muffled self-tapping screws made of mild steel were screwed into it instead of bolts. Tin. But they don’t need to live like this for so long.
      1. +1
        April 13 2020 02: 25
        Quote: tracer
        This is the cheapest crap

        Eh-hh, "tracer" ... Almost all of Asia, Latin America, and North America do not disdain CF moto on this cheap crap.
        Quote: tracer
        Overseas they are sometimes bought but only for two years or a year.
        There are 20 dealers in only one, "your" Canada. And demand, as you know, gives rise to supply.
        Quote: tracer
        Because they rarely leave the repair and there again until the warranty does not care.

        Well, yes, a 5-year warranty, and why have the Chinese still not gone bankrupt?
        Quote: tracer
        Their famous salt-sweating or god knows than Chinese aluminum. Muffled self-tapping screws made of mild steel were screwed into it instead of bolts. Tin. But they don’t need to live like this for so long.

        Is this a personal experience? Or again "Polish PM"?
        1. -3
          April 13 2020 02: 54

          Well, what again did it? This is the Polish Makarov. A CF moto shit, but you're crazy about him. I sneeze who drives a CF moto better it won’t. Well, let's howl that this is not PM, howl that DOES NOT HAPPEN, howl that juggling and photo-editing. In technology, as well versed in weapons. You are on the magnet.
          1. +2
            April 13 2020 03: 42
            Quote: tracer
            Well, what again did it?

            Once again "tracer", again the diaper didn't help you? And also a connoisseur of English literature ...
            Can I help you? It says "Polish R-64", but "Makarov" is the type of cartridge used. Well, you're just a genius! Throw a screenshot from Youtube, but without a full comment, so I will restore the gap
            And then you can go at least to foam, speaking about the Polish "PM".
            Quote: tracer
            A CF moto shit, but you're crazy about him. I sneeze who drives a CF moto better it won’t.

            Psychologists state that if a person does not have any thing or its analogue, then he tries in every possible way to belittle qualities, or to lie about his possession. What is not a diagnosis?
            Quote: tracer
            In technology, as well versed in weapons. You are on the magnet.

            Here I am laughing !! TT 1956 recall? And I only use facts. You can change the diaper.
            1. -3
              April 13 2020 04: 16
              Look at the disassembly, change the deflector yourself, you are magnetic. Besides, I was talking about 53 years old or 54 years old, I don't remember, but you mean 56 years old. Which, in principle, is not the point. Well, I was mistaken for a year, so what? You whined that I didn’t have it at all. You were stuck. Well, what is your name after that? About the exact "deflector" suits you. Look at the pistol. There are minor differences. But not the point. This is what I meant. And you are the verbiage of empty-throats. The deflector is magnetic.
              1. +2
                April 13 2020 11: 16
                Quote: tracer
                In addition, I talked about 53 years or 54 I do not remember, and you're talking about 56. Which, in principle, is not the point. Well, a mistake for a year, so what?

                Sure. As well as the age of their sons to forget. What is this talking about? About just forgetting your lies. Link to Screen about TT. https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2019-06/1560214509_tt.jpg
                Quote: tracer
                You whined that I don’t have it
                You constantly whine, run to the administration with burning tears. And I argued and affirm that no.
                Quote: tracer
                About tochnyak "deflector"

                What does aerodynamics have to do with it? Does this mean that you don’t throw guano at the fan?
                Quote: tracer
                And then look at the gun.

                And what to look at him? The author of the video himself says that there is only a cartridge from PM
    3. 0
      April 27 2020 18: 25
      Quote: Mechnocleap
      The only interesting thing is: can she shoot on the go,

      She can’t shoot while standing still. Rather, you can make a shot, but getting into it is highly doubtful.
  15. +2
    April 5 2020 18: 29
    Is it really something ???
  16. wow
    +3
    April 5 2020 18: 32
    Hoopoes are sad .....
  17. 0
    April 5 2020 18: 36
    Somehow I can’t catch the relationship between the availability of weapons and fighting spirit! I mean the fact that those who are unable to pay silence fall into the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
  18. -5
    April 5 2020 20: 22
    Not a single comment on the topic ..
    Really on the subject of ATGMs and their concentration in certain areas where they fire even at loners and single cars - nothing to say *
    Military review is all the same ... and not Yaplakal.
    This is the bottom, comrades, but even on Yaplakal there are better comments than those that I read here on a military site ...
    Is it really important to fast? So the level has fallen (mass to the detriment of quality) -so they still have not recovered from the disease to discuss people, and not military affairs.
    Soon we’ll go to the cats and the girls ..
    1. +2
      April 5 2020 21: 18
      What to discuss?
      What are the heroes talking about or that the political games are going on there, the militia does not answer as it should?
      They shoot bullets and balabolat exactly until the moment when the corresponding answer starts to arrive .... and this is not a MILITARY question! clean / dirty policy.
    2. -1
      April 5 2020 21: 31
      and he was here this level?
      in comments the same sodomy as on the censor is not only on the reverse side
    3. +8
      April 5 2020 21: 42
      This is the bottom, comrades, but even on Yaplakal there are better comments.

      So on "I cried, people" are mostly civilians and the humanities, they are mostly trolls belay
      But in the VO they basically still served.
      And to anyone who has served such ideas are immediately obvious as insane.
      Well, let's teach pilots to drive tanks, gunners to fly turntables and air defense specialists to plot a course under the ice.
      Here's a video of how a gallant 404 infantryman performs the command "on the shoulder".
      What do you think will happen if you give him a javelin?
      But nothing, he will not be able to bring him into a combat situation laughing

      How will anti-tank systems be trained in infantry trenches? This is not so easy in the training with the lessons in theory, mock-ups of anti-tank systems, stands, training firing, firing ranges, live firing. - This is the standard training sequence for the artilleryman. ELEMENTARY LEARNING! Not well, if you want to learn from which end of the TPK the rocket flies, it’s possible, but if you fight, it’s profanity. Here is a short answer from the gun commander.
      1. 0
        April 27 2020 18: 45
        Quote: bk316
        This is not so easy in the training with the lessons in theory, mock-ups of anti-tank systems, stands, training firing, firing ranges, live firing. - This is the standard training sequence for the artilleryman. ELEMENTARY LEARNING! Not well, if you want to learn from which end of the TPK the rocket flies, it’s possible, but if you fight, it’s profanity.
        You are a happy person. You still saw with your own eyes that they are teaching exactly as you say. And in our fabulous LPR, they still learn mainly in the trenches on 2 lines, where it is calmer. Well, once every half a year, they are taken to a simulator. So there is profanity on both sides of the front. Accordingly, those ignoramuses who later end due to their greater number will win the battle.
  19. +1
    April 5 2020 20: 41
    Well, why didn’t they write where to run and to whom to give up?
  20. -6
    April 5 2020 21: 07
    Over the past 5 years, she grew up in the galaxy of Pogozhinsky trolls. And once a great site was ...
  21. +1
    April 5 2020 21: 59
    A normal operator should at least once plummet and see the result. Otherwise, this is a swimming tutorial. How many operators are training? And if they both fail?
    I found "traditions" - on the day of training at the training ground, a 9 (nine!) Cartridge was issued to the SVD.
    How many Darts have already plagued the APU?
  22. +1
    April 5 2020 22: 29
    Quote: Paul Siebert
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Bumblebee_3
    they will always find someone to rob


    It's "Mad Max" in Ukrainian ... laughing

    Told Mykola))))))))))
    I give a link, the admin video will not miss)))))))
    https://youtu.be/K2tIEbv0kuM
  23. +1
    April 5 2020 23: 25
    Having decided to bring the experience gained in the battles into the mass of soldiers, the ATGM calculations were instructed to teach ordinary infantrymen the art of owning the corresponding products. It is believed that in the end, fighters at the forefront will be able to independently use anti-tank systems.

    ATGMs are in service with anti-tank platoons and batteries. The personnel of these units is trained according to a special program. If the infantry is taught according to two programs, then it will turn out to be non-infantrymen, not anti-tank soldiers. During the Second Chechen War, it was decided to reinforce motorized rifle battalions with artillery to increase firepower. The infantry battalion created an artillery company with 6 pieces of 85mm D-44 cannons. These "barbarians" mocked the cannons, broke them, and towed them by the barrel. Accordingly, the firepower was not increased. The guns were taken away from the infantry, people were sent to the companies.
  24. 0
    April 6 2020 01: 47
    The Americans, probably complete with the Javelins, sent a batch of specially designed pink glasses for Ukraine, which Ukrainian soldiers wear without taking off, so the future clash with Russia seems to them some kind of celebration of continuous triumphs.
  25. +1
    April 6 2020 03: 15
    Well, FSE, now we are definitely in fourth place in terms of armament !!!
  26. 0
    April 6 2020 08: 06
    Quote: Lipchanin
    And this is a promising project

    Is it promising? here is the perspective:
  27. 0
    April 6 2020 10: 39
    Quote: Fantazer911
    If you don’t like koment, then pass by, as I understand it, and if I minus then I write for what!

    Is this regulated? You write for what you minus, others do not write. What problems?
  28. +3
    April 6 2020 10: 50
    “They completely defeated Russia”: the 93rd brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces transfers “Turkish experience”
    all this greed and arrogance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine comes from the current Russophobic tendency of "civilized" Europe and NATO.
    What can we say about the descendants of Bandera, when just a year ago they bravely argue those that the Russians pulled from the loop of these Bandera and K
    Israeli soldiers fighting shoulder to shoulder with German soldiers capture the Russian village. ... NATO maneuvers in Germany, involving thousands of soldiers from all countries of the Atlantic bloc, this time distinguished themselves by the participation of a battalion of Israeli paratroopers .... Only the Israelis were not shy about posting a video that says with all the bluntness worthy of better use: our enemies - Russians, and our goal is to capture Russian villages. Our friends and comrades are the Bundeswehr.
    Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1557070024
  29. 0
    April 6 2020 11: 36
    At the same time, the "transfer of Turkish experience" remains not entirely clear

    Considering that after the Crimean war Russia and Turkey did not fight, it is obviously a question of the Turkish experience of the time of Admiral Ushakov.
  30. 0
    April 6 2020 11: 50
    It is surprising the idiocy of this command, which, with the tenacity of the underdeveloped, is at war with Russia.
  31. 0
    April 6 2020 12: 56
    Quote: tihonmarine
    These our heroes chopped off the tail of fascism.


    It is a pity that the head did not tear
  32. 0
    April 6 2020 19: 16
    and what is “stratagems”, pliz tell me how to put the author minus bold for the article? !!!
  33. 0
    April 7 2020 08: 32
    What are the "Soviet" norms? Why are so many idiots in this country? Or someone narrow-minded and "not local" writes them all these stupid speeches?
    There were people like people and suddenly all at once became nerds (s) request
  34. -1
    April 7 2020 18: 52
    How did the 6 year war against the damned Muscovites end? Okay. we as usual treat this nonsense with understanding. the peasants in ukraishke love to get the fuck out. Maybe it's time for the Ukrainians to restore the devastation after ..fierce .. fights ....
  35. 0
    April 27 2020 18: 18
    especially delivered

    Well this is what you need in your head to attach a "bassoon" to such a mast. They put it on the UAZ and it staggered. On such a disabled woman it will only be good to tick, but I doubt very much to go 3 km. Although ... they have 111 missiles, which means up to 2 km. It's still doubtful.

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