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Howa Type 89. Its “alien” rifle

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Howa Type 89. Its “alien” rifle

Howa Type 89R, or Para (i.e. with a folding butt)


And a winner
And defeated
In the game of this world -
No more than a drop of dew
No longer a flash of lightning.
Ouchi Yoshitaka (1507-1551)


Weapon and firms. And it so happened that, having suffered a crushing defeat in the Second World War, Japan experienced terrible national humiliation. In fact, the country was crushed - in every sense. In 1950, in terms of its economic development, it was in the same place with Egypt. However, she started her own armed forces, and the Korean War breathed life into her economy. And the “Japanese miracle” began, a miracle, first of all, borrowing and modernization, and the borrowing of everything and everything touched the Japanese armed forces.


Iwo Jima Island, 2007. An American instructor shows gunner techniques to a fighter of the Self-Defense Forces. Japanese soldier (left) armed with Type 64 rifle

In the mid-1950s, the Self-Defense Forces Command of Japan decided to replace the American M1 Garand rifles and M1 carbines that were in their arsenal. In March 1956, Japan and the United States signed the Standardization Agreement, as a result of which the new full-time cartridge of the Japanese army became 7,62 × 51 mm NATO, but with a 20% reduced charge and a 10% reduced initial bullet speed. But the return decreased, which for short and weak post-war Japanese was of great importance. In the same year, General Kijiro Nambu and Colonel Kenzo Iwashita at the Howa Machinery Company Ltd in Nagoya began work on a new rifle under this cartridge. However, it was only possible to create it in 1964, and then it was adopted under the designation Type 64. The production of Type 64 rifles was carried out at the enterprise in the village of Sinkawa (today - the city of Kiyosu) until 1988. One of the most noticeable features of this rifle was an open shutter with a reload handle mounted on top of it and the ability to automatically switch firing from the front to the rear whisper when the barrel overheated.


Japanese soldier with a Type 64 rifle in the jungle ...


... and in the grass

The rifle went into service, but then the war broke out in Vietnam, and the U.S. Army began to replace the 7,62 mm M14 rifle with a 5,56 mm M16. Lighter weight and NATO-standard ammunition - all this was very tempting, as Type 64 was criticized by many for its high metal consumption and weight.

Due to the design of the shutter for the Type 64 rifle, it was necessary to develop a non-standard mount for the sniper scope and, in addition, it was not very convenient to use it!

Howa already had a license at that time to manufacture the AR-180 rifle, a commercial version of the Armalite AR-18 rifle. A batch of rifles was released for field trials, and when they gave a positive result, the official development of a new generation assault rifle with the designation HR-16 (HR1604) began, which eventually became the "Type 89", since it was developed in 1989.


AR-180

One of the most advantageous features of the Type 89 rifle compared to the Type 64 rifle was a lower load on the soldier and an increase in the amount of ammunition that he could carry. In addition, due to the use of aluminum and plastic, unlike the steel and wooden construction of the Type 64 rifle, the weight of the rifle itself also decreased, that is, it became more convenient to use.

The fixed-butt version of the rifle has a rubber-coated storage tank inside it. Although the standard model is equipped with a fixed stock, a small number of rifles have a folding stock. Such rifles are made for crews of armored vehicles and paratroopers.


"Type 89 Para" with a folding butt. Right view

It is believed that the rifle is at least as accurate as the Type 64 rifle, that is, they are equal in accuracy. The Type 89 rifle is equipped with a built-in bipod, like its predecessor, to increase accuracy. However, unlike the bipod on the Type 64 rifle, on the Type 89 rifle, the bipods are easily removed because they are attached to the barrel using a spring mechanism and held by a lever lock. In addition, the forend of the “Type 89” is made so that the legs of the bipod fold inside it.

The design of the rifle was directly related to prototypes such as the AR-18 and the Heckler & Koch G3. In addition, since the rifle from the very beginning was designed for the physique of Japanese soldiers, its creators adjusted all the ergonomic and weight characteristics precisely for them.

The complex design and the large number of parts of the Type 64 rifle often became the causes of failures in its operation. Therefore, the number of parts on the new sample has been reduced. Because of this, the cost of a Type 89 rifle has become about half that of a Type 64 rifle. Moreover, if in 1989 it cost 870 yen, then in 000 its price dropped to 2005 yen. Despite this, it is still considered too expensive for mass weapons, since the ideal price, according to the Japanese government, should lie in the range from 340 to 000 yen per copy and no more.


"Type 89". Left and right view

The rifle ammunition for the Type 89 rifle is interchangeable with the 109 × 855 mm SS5,56 / M45 cartridge used by the US and NATO forces. Along with a cartridge of 7,62 × 51 mm, this ensures complete interchangeability with the ammunition stockpiles of the US Army units located in Japan. The only difference is in the marking: since the ammunition designed for the Type 89 rifle is made in Japan, they are stamped with the image of the Self-Defense Forces sakura instead of the typical NATO cross used in SS109 / M855 cartridges.


Shutter handle, 4-position fire switch and diopter sight

The rifle has a traditional gas vent mechanism, but the Japanese would not be Japanese if they had at least a little but not modernized it. In this case, they made the front of the piston somewhat narrower than the diameter of the gas cylinder, and even placed it at some distance from the gas outlet. As a result of this innovation, gas energy works in two steps: the initial impulse receives, as usual, the head of the gas piston, but since the "maximum" pressure does not increase in the cylinder immediately, it turns out that it reaches a maximum when the piston is already moving. That is, there is no push, and since there is no push, the rifle mechanism works more smoothly, and this reduces its wear. Such a “small” trifle, but nice!

The Type 89 can use the M16 rifle magazines. However, the store, released specifically for the 89th rifle, has a special pusher that prevents the shutter from closing after all the cartridges in the store are used up. If the M16 series magazine is used, the shutter will close anyway. In Japanese stores, there are four holes that allow you to control the consumption of cartridges. But many people think that this is inconvenient, since the holes allow the sand and all other foreign objects to easily get into the store and cause delays in firing.

It is believed that the bevel of the store’s receiver is inadequate compared to the M16, which is bad, as it increases the time required to reload the rifle in certain combat situations.


Rifle with a magazine from M16

The selector switch is located on the right side of the receiver and has four positions, including fire with the cutoff of three shots.

The bayonet to the rifle can be used as nippers, combining it with the sheath, and the sheath itself, or rather, their tip, can be used as a bottle opener. The M9 American bayonet can also be attached to this Japanese rifle. A rifle grenade Type 06 was developed for the rifle. An American M203 grenade launcher can also be installed on it, but with the appropriate adapter.

A number of long-lasting accessories are also suitable for the rifle, but soldiers should rather buy them, or rather, have the right, for their own money! Even those to whom they are issued must reimburse their value by paying the quartermaster money from their salary.

There were attempts to make a shortened version of this rifle, that is, a “carbine” with a total length of about 800 millimeters, with four Picatinny rails. An aiming system was also developed, which includes a rangefinder and a video camera, which allows you to keep the rifle at a distance from you and nevertheless shoot from it. But so far there is no question of replacing the Type 89 rifle.
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  1. Aleksandr72
    Aleksandr72 April 6 2020 18: 21 New
    +5
    The bayonet to the rifle can be used as nippers, combining it with the sheath, and the sheath itself, or rather, their tip, can be used as a bottle opener.

    I can still understand the Israelis who, in their Galil ARM, designed the bipod to be used as a bottle opener. Still, the Middle East is quite hot there and you always want to drink. But in Japan, the weather seems to be not so hot, and the jungle there still needs to be looked for. Therefore, for me, such a design of a scabbard for a bayonet-knife for an assault rifle "Type 89", in my opinion, is not quite an obvious necessity. However, the Japanese in this regard have always been originals, it is enough to recall the bayonets to the Type 96 and Type 99 light machine guns - a spectacle of not very tall Japanese soldiers marching hand-to-hand with bayonets on 10-kg machine guns - this is truly impressive, almost like a cavalry the attack of sailors in vests riding on zebras with sabers bald, but only even more senseless.
    1. kalibr
      April 6 2020 18: 36 New
      +6
      Quote: Aleksandr72
      But in Japan the weather is not so hot

      In summer, in the Japanese islands, except for Hokkaido, there is stuffy heat with a high level of humidity. That is why in the Middle Ages she valued Chinese silk so much. And all the time I feel thirsty ... There are also a lot of forests in Japan, and bamboo! Where in five steps you can’t see anything! You can get lost on 50 square meters. meters. Youth volunteers are invited to mow this bamboo shoot.
      1. Aleksandr72
        Aleksandr72 April 6 2020 18: 50 New
        +4
        Most of Japan, with the exception of Kyushu Island and the Ryukyu Islands (the largest and most famous of Okinawa) are in the temperate zone, where even in high summer it is not very hot and rains are frequent, even heavy rains, and in winter the cold easily reaches - 15 degrees centigrade.
        Here is a Japanese summer:
        In Okinawa in the summer, the sun warms the air above 30 degrees. In the center of the archipelago is moderate heat up to 26 degrees. Daily rainfall spoils the picture of the Japanese summer a little. The driest in June in Hokkaido, Ryukyu, Kyushu and other islands, cold air masses from the Himalayas collide with warm south winds, as a result, forming all conditions for frequent showers. In the July period, even in the north of the country, the swimming season opens. In Tokyo, the thermometer reaches 29 degrees above zero. In the middle of the month, the temperature in Ryukyu can be up to 38 degrees, which, with high humidity, causes a lot of inconvenience to local residents. In August, almost the entire territory of the state, except the north, at night the temperature is 26 degrees, and during the day the air is heated to 31 degrees.
        Source: https://mirjapan.ru/klimat-yaponii/

        Therefore, I write that there is no particular need for a bottle opener on small arms in Japan, because there is no particular thirst for soldiers. In any case, we border guards, even in the July heat (+30 are not uncommon), were taught that water should be drunk as rarely as possible - you sweat less. And this is in our Kazakhstani very dry climate (on the border with China).
        Moreover, in densely populated Japan, where it will not be difficult to find the nearest kiosk and buy a bottle of water there. And if you consider that the Type 89 rifle went to the troops in the 90s, when plastic bottles with the same caps were used everywhere, the need for an opener for glass bottles with tin lids becomes completely illusory. But in any case, thank you for the article. It was very interesting to read it. I never thought about the fact that the "Type 89" is based on the AR-18, although it would seem that this is obvious.
        1. kalibr
          April 6 2020 18: 54 New
          -1
          Quote: Aleksandr72
          And if you consider that the Type 89 rifle went to the troops in the 90s, when plastic bottles with the same caps were used everywhere, the need for an opener for glass bottles with tin lids becomes completely illusory.

          Yes you are right! Amazing
        2. Avior
          Avior April 6 2020 21: 18 New
          +2
          the need for an opener for glass bottles with tin lids

          it's for beer smile
        3. Bogatyrev
          Bogatyrev April 7 2020 00: 01 New
          +2
          Do not forget that the Japanese do not intend to use their powers only on the islands. They can be transferred to many other places, for example, in Iraq.
          So I don’t understand why you all clung to this Japanese climate.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA April 7 2020 13: 44 New
            0
            Quote: Bogatyrev
            Do not forget that the Japanese do not intend to use their powers only on the islands. They can be transferred to many other places, for example, in Iraq.

            In 1989, the possibility of using the Self-Defense Forces outside of Japan was extremely illusory. The Campaign for the revision of Article Nine, which gives legal grounds for the use of the Self-Defense Forces in military operations outside the Metropolis, began ten years ago.
            1. Bogatyrev
              Bogatyrev April 10 2020 00: 51 New
              0
              This is in a public field.
              But the Japanese are known for their ability to get ahead of any expectations. Perhaps even then their military leadership foresaw such a development of events.
        4. mmaxx
          mmaxx April 7 2020 06: 14 New
          +1
          Well, you give! What about beer? How will a Japanese soldier open beer? This is now the lids are twisting. And then? This Russian will eat it with glass. And the Japanese will die with longing without a break.
          wink
      2. Mister X
        Mister X April 8 2020 16: 08 New
        +1
        hi
        ... The standardization agreement, as a result of which the new full-time cartridge of the Japanese army became 7,62 × 51 mm NATO, but with a charge reduced by 20% ...
        ... The only difference is in the marking: since the ammunition designed for the Type 89 rifle is made in Japan ...
        The author: Vyacheslav Shpakovsky

        The hinge was reduced only in cartridges 7,62?
        1. kalibr
          April 8 2020 17: 18 New
          0
          I don’t know, I can’t answer.
          1. Mister X
            Mister X April 9 2020 08: 50 New
            +1
            Quote: kalibr
            I don’t know, I can’t answer.

            It’s hard to work with Japanese sources: I know for myself.
            I wrote news for an economic site for more than a year
            There was material about the Ichimoku indicator.
            Tossed with translations from Japanese ...
            1. kalibr
              April 9 2020 08: 57 New
              0
              Not that word!
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 6 2020 18: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Aleksandr72
      I can still understand the Israelis who, in their Galil ARM, designed the bipod to be used as a bottle opener.

      generally I can not understand this ... "screw" covers for a long time self-respecting companies do ... nafig "galil" ...? wink
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U April 7 2020 05: 37 New
        0
        Quote: Dead Day
        Covers "under the screw" for a long time self-respecting companies make ... nafig "galil".
        "Galil" almost never is visible need it! )))
      2. mmaxx
        mmaxx April 7 2020 06: 23 New
        0
        Galil was apparently removed from the army because of this innovation. "Galil" - not needed wink
  2. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert April 6 2020 20: 26 New
    +5
    Very competent, I would say exquisite article at the intersection of technology and literature.
    I really wanted to shoot from this "Japanese miracle" with a reduced recoil impulse.
    Beautiful rifle. With explicit Heckler and Koch roots ... wink
    1. kalibr
      April 6 2020 21: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      Very competent, I would say an exquisite article at the intersection of technology and literature.

      Heart beat with joy !!!
    2. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U April 7 2020 05: 36 New
      0
      You greatly exaggerate the merits of this article, the author even missed the most technical refinements.
      1. English tarantas
        English tarantas April 7 2020 09: 14 New
        +1
        You can always add an article with your comment.
  3. Private-K
    Private-K April 6 2020 20: 30 New
    +3
    The Japanese must do something badly!
    And this "bad" was indicated in small arms.
    No, well, it’s not that bad at all, it just doesn’t correspond with other matters in which the Japanese are doing well or doing well.
    ----
    Let's pay attention to the paradox. In the 64th they take an uncomfortable, buggy stunted rifle cartridge. But after a year or two, it became clear that there was much more suitable 5,56x45 cartridge for the Japanese. Moreover, there is an almost finished sample of a carbine under it. It remains to finalize - well, a year or two - and go. But no. There should be no easy and short ways! Japanese soldier must surpass! Therefore, we will delay the development of a normal machine for 35 years - let the soldier suffer.
    1. mmaxx
      mmaxx April 7 2020 06: 28 New
      0
      In general, in the early days, when only the USA switched to 223 rounds, and NATO was just starting, the decision to reduce the weight of gunpowder was considered very sound. This made it possible to conduct automatic fire with hands. The 308 cartridge did not even give a European.
    2. English tarantas
      English tarantas April 7 2020 09: 20 New
      0
      Often notice that you are only criticizing.
      But no. There should be no easy and short ways! Japanese soldier must surpass! Therefore, we will delay the development of a normal machine for 35 years - let the soldier suffer.

      Firstly, the Japanese are not those people who are looking for the easiest way, their mentality knows that the best result is achieved through hard work.
      Secondly, the Japanese soldiers were not so scared, they were not going to fight at all, and the fact that the machine was not convenient, the soldier’s life was not easy and the machine in it wasn’t such a disaster.
      Moreover, there is an almost finished sample of a carbine under it. It remains to finalize - well, a year or two - and go.

      And thirdly, why make a copy, if you can modify it as you need and do better, which the Japanese can do, and the development of small arms was not a priority goal of the Japanese budgets.
      1. Private-K
        Private-K April 7 2020 10: 42 New
        0
        Quote: English tarantass
        Often notice that you are only criticizing.

        Biased notice.
        Besides: there is no conflict - there is nothing to talk about.
        Quote: English tarantass
        Firstly, the Japanese are not those people who are looking for the easiest way, their mentality knows that the best result is achieved through hard work.

        This is not a reason to make artificially bad weapons. Moreover, against the background of success in another.
        And even more so, there is no reason to torture your soldiers with bad weapons for 35 years, given the opportunity to give them good.
        The Type64 machine is literally bad at all. At that time, the second floor. 60s - beg. 70s, the Belgian FN CAL and the German G33 already appeared under the 5,56 cartridge; amers have two lines of weapons from Stoner. The Japanese, so and so, copied the shooting marks from the Belgians and Germans, could buy a license and produce good weapons.
        Quote: English tarantass
        why make a copy, if you can modify it as you need and do better that the Japanese can do, and what dragged on, so the development of small arms was not a priority goal of Japanese budgets

        As practice has shown, the Japanese do not guess at the shooter at all. Therefore, "to refine", as applied to the Japanese, means to "worsen" the weapon.
        1. LastPS
          LastPS April 13 2020 20: 53 New
          0
          This is not a reason to make artificially bad weapons. Moreover, against the background of success in another.

          The Japanese were not going to fight with anyone. Their economic miracle was partly based on the fact that defense spending was virtually non-existent.
  4. Undecim
    Undecim April 6 2020 20: 35 New
    +8
    But so far there is no question of replacing the Type 89 rifle.
    "Speech" is just going on, moreover, the issue has been practically resolved. This year's budget allocated about $ 9 for the purchase of 000 HOWA 000 rifles.
    There is practically no information about the rifle. It is only known that she won the competition against SCAR-L FN HERSTAL and HK416.
    There is only one photo.
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins April 6 2020 21: 16 New
    +2
    Thank. I didn’t think about how the self-defense forces armed themselves after the war. I thought it was still with the American heritage, but it’s like ...
  6. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U April 7 2020 05: 17 New
    -1
    In March 1956, Japan and the United States signed the Standardization Agreement, as a result of which the new full-time cartridge of the Japanese army became 7,62 × 51 mm NATO, but with a 20% reduced charge and a 10% reduced initial bullet speed. But the return has decreased, which was of great importance to the short and weak post-war Japanese
    That scream, for eleven or fifteen years old or something Japanese? Or before the war, the Japanese were heroes under two meters, and then withered? But I won’t be surprised if the Japanese, unlike the US-members, simply understood the redundancy of this cartridge.
    and the ability to automatically switch firing from the front to the rear whisper when the barrel overheats
    What is it like?! I understand that it is impossible to require an understanding of technology from a simple translator of texts, but such an interesting feature of a rifle should not have escaped a connoisseur of weapons, whom the author of the article thinks himself to be! I don’t remember a single sample where such a transfer would be carried out automatically!
    Due to the design of the shutter for the Type 64 rifle, it was necessary to develop a non-standard mount for the sniper scope and, in addition, it was not very convenient to use it!
    Here, Japanese thoughtfulness and attention to detail, absolutely real, gave a considerable glitch.
    That is, there is no push, and since there is no push, the rifle mechanism works more smoothly, and this reduces its wear. Such a “small” trifle, but nice!
    Seriously? That is, the absence of a push at the time of the shot, according to the author, is important for the longevity of the weapon? The accuracy, stability when shooting, which first come to mind, are not mentioned at all.
    A rifle grenade Type 06 was developed for the rifle. An American M203 grenade launcher can also be installed on it, but with the appropriate adapter.
    I understand that there is no editor over the author of the article, but I personally don’t understand what kind of this grenade is, how it is launched, there are enough different types of rifle grenades. And how can a grenade launcher be installed on it, albeit with an adapter. (this is nitpicking)))
    1. kalibr
      April 7 2020 07: 16 New
      -2
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      I understand that there is no editor over the author of the article, but I personally don’t understand what kind of this grenade is, how it is launched, there are enough different types of rifle grenades. And how can a grenade launcher be installed on it, albeit with an adapter. (this is nitpicking)))

      A grenade is put on the barrel and launched by a shot of an empty cartridge - that's why it is called a rifle, and how is a grenade launcher put on? And who knows ... In English, HOW it was not written, but in Japanese it may be somewhere. But I don’t know Japanese.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U April 7 2020 07: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        A grenade is put on the barrel and fired by a shot of an empty cartridge

        It is far from always idle, there are grenades with a bullet catcher, there are missed bullets, and there is a launch of its own engine from the flame of a shot.
    2. kalibr
      April 7 2020 07: 21 New
      -3
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      I understand that a simple translator of texts cannot be required to understand the technique

      That's good! I did not hold this rifle in my hands, I did not shoot from it, so I DO NOT know how. Open the Japanese instruction on shooting, everything is written there, translate it through Google and you will be happy!
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U April 7 2020 07: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        I did not hold this rifle in my hands

        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        and the ability to automatically switch firing from the front to the rear whisper when the barrel overheats

        But to pay attention to this undoubtedly interesting and rarest, if not at all unique, feature of the machine gun, a man who knows a little about the shooter is simply obliged.
        1. kalibr
          April 7 2020 07: 44 New
          -2
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          just obliged.

          So I wrote about this. And rejoice that at least you did it ... because it’s very difficult to work with hieroglyphs.
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U April 7 2020 08: 18 New
            -1
            Quote: kalibr
            So I wrote about this. And rejoice that at least it did

            Pff, articles at the level are much higher than yours, not only translated, written by Russian-speaking authors is quite enough, just VO is quite a convenient platform for me.
            Quote: kalibr
            because it’s very difficult to work with hieroglyphs.
            Would you like to say that you worked with an article in Japanese ?!
          2. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U April 7 2020 09: 25 New
            +1
            Quote: kalibr
            So I wrote about it
            You thoughtlessly mentioned her, but did not "pay attention to her."
    3. kalibr
      April 7 2020 07: 49 New
      -2
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      but from a connoisseur of weapons, whom the author of the article considers himself

      Did I write about this somewhere? Don't cling to your ass like a bath leaf. This is petty ... And you will not prove anything either to me or to others. "Scoop" Your loved one will not come to life from this in any case. And as I have published my materials here, I will continue to publish them, since you are not one of the people who make decisions!
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U April 7 2020 08: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        Don't cling to your ass like a bath leaf. This is petty ... And you will not prove anything either to me or to others. "Scoop" Your beloved will not come to life from this in any case
        Wow, how acutely you react to well-founded criticism, and the inability to answer it reasonably, already "Scoop" (this is about the country that gave you a free education and title, I think) was used.
        Quote: kalibr
        And as I published my materials here, I will continue to publish it, since you are not one of the decision-makers!
        Yes, and publish, please, but as I commented, under the law laughing , so I will comment, "since you are not one of the decision-makers!"
        1. kalibr
          April 7 2020 08: 57 New
          -2
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          I will comment

          But this is correct. And the more, the better! Just do not waste time on trifles ...
        2. kalibr
          April 7 2020 09: 01 New
          -3
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          free education

          Come freebie!
        3. Icelord
          Icelord April 9 2020 09: 50 New
          -1
          And where do you come from, it’s good even though the Communists have already died out
      2. Fat
        Fat April 7 2020 09: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        but from a connoisseur of weapons, whom the author of the article considers himself

        Did I write about this somewhere? Don't cling to your ass like a bath leaf. This is petty ... And you will not prove anything either to me or to others. "Scoop" Your loved one will not come to life from this in any case. And as I have published my materials here, I will continue to publish them, since you are not one of the people who make decisions!

        Vecheslav Olegovich, it begins to seem that Vladimir_2U is yours personal heckler. So your discussions look unnatural ....)))
        Do you have to say "flax comber from Dundee" ??
        Nevertheless, you do it. What for?
        Your articles already have good click-through rates.
        Summary: Vladimir_2U and you are possible
        came to a "tacit agreement"))))
        1. kalibr
          April 7 2020 12: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: Thick
          Summary: Vladimir_2U and you are possible
          came to a "tacit agreement"

          No, I’m just a pretty hot-tempered person by nature. This, of course, is a drawback, but it is difficult to deal with it. When I meet this one ... it can be hard to resist. We are all human beings made up of flaws.
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U April 9 2020 09: 52 New
            -1
            By nature, you immediately begin to be rude, albeit veiled. How thin.
        2. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U April 9 2020 09: 56 New
          0
          Have you noticed, for example, about
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          and the ability to automatically switch firing from the front to the rear whisper when the barrel overheats
          ? And this is real, if it were true, there would be a rare feature of a weapon.
          1. Fat
            Fat April 9 2020 18: 21 New
            0
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Have you noticed, for example, about
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            and the ability to automatically switch firing from the front to the rear whisper when the barrel overheats
            ? And this is real, if it were true, there would be a rare feature of a weapon.

            Rear whisper shooting:
            In the "normal state" the bolt is open, the cartridge has not been sent. When the trigger is pressed, the bolt travels forward, sends the cartridge, shoots, travels back, and so on. When the trigger is released, the bolt is again in the rear position, the barrel and chamber are empty.
            When firing from the front sear: before firing the cartridge is already in the barrel, the shutter is closed. After firing again the cartridge in the barrel, the shutter is closed. For most weapons, this is the norm.
            How and how this weapon works with automatic weapons when the barrel overheats, as a specialist, you know better.
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U April 9 2020 18: 35 New
              0
              What is shooting from the rear, or the front whispered, I, as a person interested in weapons, know. But to the question:
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Have you noticed, for example, about
              and the ability to automatically switch firing from the front to the rear whisper when the barrel overheats
              You did not answer. And here it is the opportunity auto transition firing from the front whispered to the rear when the barrel overheats do not seem to understand. And I'm not being a specialist, but being a person interested, I do not know how it is carried out automatic transition of firing from the front to the rear whisper when the barrel overheats, but drew attention to this undoubtedly unique feature of the weapon. The author of the article did not pay, you, it seems, are not there either, but here I am not sure. You haven’t answered yet. Or maybe the author of the article translated clumsy incorrectly.
  7. mmaxx
    mmaxx April 7 2020 06: 17 New
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    I liked this rifle since childhood. There was a good action movie "August without an Emperor". There this play was played.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U April 7 2020 09: 24 New
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      Quote: mmaxx
      There was a good action movie "August without an Emperor"
      Thanks for the tip! The Japanese made such films very well. In response, I will attach "The 109th goes non-stop", an excellent film in my opinion, later in Hollywood they shot "Speed", as much weaker as the bus is weaker against the train. )))
  8. Private-K
    Private-K April 7 2020 10: 44 New
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    Quote: Undecim
    There is only one photo.

    With the world on a thread - a naked shirt.
    The Japanese decided to collect spent parts from all over the world and mold their own from them.
    Maybe something worthwhile will come out, but it would be better if they bought a license.
  9. Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 14 July 2020 02: 21 New
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    A number of long-lasting accessories are also suitable for the rifle, but soldiers should rather buy them, or rather, have the right, for their own money! Even those to whom they are issued must reimburse their value by paying the quartermaster money from their salary.

    Yeah! Fight for the country, sacrifice yourself, and even buy for your hard-earned ammunition! Not surprisingly, Japan lost almost ALL wars in the last 150 years.