The head of USC called the amount of damage from the fire at the Tavkr "Admiral Kuznetsov"

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The head of USC called the amount of damage from the fire at the Tavkr "Admiral Kuznetsov"

The preliminary amount of damage caused by the December fire to the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier cruiser is approximately 500 million rubles. This was announced by the head of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) Alexei Rakhmanov.

Answering the question of journalists, what is the amount of damage from the fire that occurred on board the cruiser in December last year, Rakhmanov said that previously it was 500 million rubles. At the same time, he made an adjustment to this amount, but in small amounts.



There may be some more adjustment, but not very significant

- he added.

At the same time, Rakhmanov emphasized that the fire will not affect the term for the transfer of the aircraft carrier cruiser to the Navy in 2022.

Recall that on December 12, 2019, a fire broke out at the ongoing repair and modernization of the Admiral Kuznetsov Tavkr, the area of ​​which reached 500 square meters. meters. Fire extinguishing took almost a day. A preliminary reason is that the spark from the welding gets into diesel fuel. During the fire, 14 people were injured, and two servicemen were killed.

Earlier it was reported that the dry dock commissioning at the 35th shipyard in Murmansk was delayed, the commissioning of the facility was postponed for at least a year. The work required to dock Admiral Kuznetsov is planned to be completed in May 2021, and not in 2020, as previously stated.
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    1. +10
      April 4 2020 17: 39
      Square meter-million! A little expensive however ...
      1. +23
        April 4 2020 18: 29
        Quote: RUSLAN
        Square meter-million! A little expensive however ...

        And we have the most expensive roads in the world!
        Kuzi has an unfortunate fate, they renamed him, then they tried to burn him, then drown him, and now they will "milk".
        But rather, he himself is ashamed that he is still alive.
      2. +7
        April 4 2020 18: 48
        Quote: RUSLAN
        Square meter-million! A little expensive however ...

        double in a year (if not worse)
        1. -7
          April 4 2020 23: 11
          Quote: Dead Day
          double in a year (if not worse)

          =======
          Ready to bet?
      3. +3
        April 4 2020 18: 56
        Believe me - it is very (!) Inexpensive for a fire on a ship.
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          1. +4
            April 4 2020 19: 16
            Grandfather, I can give an example: 2 million euros for 50 sq.m. In kapstran, my experience. Although this is not a reason to believe, of course ...
            1. 0
              April 5 2020 10: 49
              Yes, and more can issue bills ... Just a fraudulent scheme of earning. Comparing prices for high-end communication equipment and mediocre, but included in the marine or river register, you can only be horrified .... We included in the marine register and crap, we lift the price of trash 5-10 times !!!
          2. 0
            April 4 2020 22: 49
            By the way, you are also just letters on the screen.
            1. +2
              April 5 2020 14: 54
              I ask minusers to slow down - Dedka has already deleted the comment.
          3. -5
            April 4 2020 23: 12
            Quote: Dead Day
            I would be glad to believe you, but alas, You are nobody to believe you

            =======
            And who are you ??? To believe you? (Oh, apparently "old man" is really OLD!) request
      4. -10
        April 4 2020 20: 54
        Quote: RUSLAN
        Square meter-million! A little expensive however ...

        tongue Weak !? And you in elite apartments cost of this meter repair repair wink laughing Take the elite skyscraper in Sochi for example! belay Chur me Chur. In Moscow. Well and? Already minus ?! Where do you live? Obviously not in Russia. laughing
    2. +7
      April 4 2020 17: 39
      500 sq.m. = 500 million rubles, not sour + considered eternity
      1. +12
        April 4 2020 17: 45
        Quote: Sandor Clegane
        500 sq.m. = 500 million rubles, not sour + considered eternity

        They would give it to the Chinese, they would already have done it and half the price .. well, if they themselves can’t ...
        1. -2
          April 4 2020 18: 49
          Quote: Svarog
          They would give it to the Chinese, they would already have done it and half the price .. well, if they themselves can’t ...

          I’ve already said ... in the bathhouse I’ve gotten burned .... but ours Can ..... they always need Pendel ... right now it’s better from a mortar .... they don’t understand otherwise well?
      2. +2
        April 4 2020 17: 45
        Thank God, at least not billions, as they counted the last time!)))
        1. +2
          April 4 2020 19: 39
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Thank God, at least not billions, as they counted the last time!)))


          I think that the last time the source had in mind the amount of repair / modernization of the vessel + preliminary damage from the fire ... but the journalists presented everything in their own way. And if you add to this the modernization of the dry dock, then there will be a serious amount.
      3. -8
        April 4 2020 17: 45
        Sandor Kligan (Danila Dmitrievich)

        RUSLAN

        Bookkeepers ... You’d better count the cost in cubic meters ... stick-trees ...
        1. +3
          April 4 2020 17: 56
          Quote: NN52
          Accountants

          you read the article (l), in the same place the cost is registered and the damage in sq.m, what is there to consider ??
          Quote: NN52
          tree sticks...

          on your Sort both Christmas trees and sticks, what are you (you) not happy with?
          1. -1
            April 4 2020 18: 14
            Sandor Kligan (Danila Dmitrievich)

            Well, first of all, Sanda, not at Sorting, but in Sormovo. Secondly, you think "flatly" if you calculate the consequences of a fire in closed rooms by sq.m. And thirdly, do you believe everything that is written? Even on the "fence"? laughing
            1. -4
              April 4 2020 18: 38
              Quote: NN52
              Sandor Kligan (Danila Dmitrievich)

              And thirdly, do you believe everything that is written? Even on the "fence"? laughing


              Something a lot of these have become recently, what kind of virus can it be?
              hi
              1. -8
                April 4 2020 19: 08
                Uh-huh))) a virus with a crown on their "head". drinks
                1. -5
                  April 4 2020 19: 14
                  A good job cures this type of virus very quickly. drinks
        2. +2
          April 4 2020 18: 40
          Quote: NN52
          You’d better recalculate the cost in cubic meters ..

          And it is possible in parrots feel lol
          1. -1
            April 4 2020 19: 22
            Mono, but not nuno. Dmitry has a reason.
            Namesake hi
            1. 0
              April 4 2020 19: 25
              On site coronovirus?
              The sense of humor I look is completely gone recourse
              1. -2
                April 4 2020 19: 29
                Come on! I’m ready to take medicine forever. And to hang out as a snack is sacred. Yes
                1. 0
                  April 4 2020 19: 31
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  Come on! I’m ready to take medicine forever. And to hang out as a snack is sacred. Yes

                  And so all day so serious. Not tired of sitting at home frowning and looking for a dirty trick in every word?
                  This is not for you personally.
                  Forum users
                  1. 0
                    April 4 2020 19: 35
                    Yeah, I'm also against sitting at home. Fresh air and "medicine" are better than any restrictions.
                    1. -2
                      April 4 2020 19: 40
                      Quote: Svarog51
                      Yeah, I'm also against sitting at home. Fresh air and "medicine" are better than any restrictions.

                      I’ll go and look for a male dog. Again the door opened and ran away. laughing
                      Third hour where request that is worn
                      1. 0
                        April 4 2020 19: 45
                        Spring, what do you want. Nature takes its toll. He does not know about our concerns, he has an instinct. recourse
                        1. -1
                          April 4 2020 20: 29
                          Quote: Svarog51
                          he has an instinct.

                          He has instinct, and I have sore legs laughing
    3. +1
      April 4 2020 17: 45
      .... Yes, and before that, he said to mine ... That there’s no question of any 700 million
    4. 0
      April 4 2020 17: 49
      I hope for the return of the aircraft carrier cruiser in operation at the appointed time.
    5. +15
      April 4 2020 17: 57
      The worst thing is that NO ONE answered for either the drowned dock or the fire.
      1. +8
        April 4 2020 18: 01
        Quote: knn54
        The worst thing is that NO ONE answered for either the drowned dock or the fire.

        This is already routine .. no one is responsible for anything for us .. why? right .. everyone shares with everyone .. for the same reason, we have two, and sometimes three times more expensive than in China ..
    6. Ham
      -11
      April 4 2020 18: 05
      here on the straight obsessed with the topic of fire on the "Kuz"!
      there was a topic before that - a drown that had sunk in the melt, but this is a straight pipe ...
    7. +5
      April 4 2020 18: 11
      Neither a drowned dock, nor damage resulting from a crane drop, nor a fire, nor a delay in the construction of a new dock, nor a lengthy calculation of losses, nor what can affect the term for the transfer of the aircraft carrier cruiser to the Navy in 2022. 
      1. +2
        April 4 2020 20: 34
        Many repairs and upgrades can be carried out afloat. No dock. But if there is no dock in a year, it will be sad.
        There is a technical opportunity to meet deadlines, but the implementation of all this in practice ... as always.
        Because no one is responsible.
      2. -6
        April 5 2020 00: 22
        You, comrades, are wasting your energy in the wrong direction. Instead of the whole world wanting the speedy restoration of our, albeit long-suffering, aircraft carrier - put some kind of atmosphere "everything is gone." And all your bosses are already guilty. More positive, comrades, more positive! Everyone will get what they deserve. The specialists are working. Deck aviation to be!
    8. +1
      April 4 2020 18: 22
      Okay, don’t whine, 500 million rubles is 7 million dollars, 20% of the cost of a fighter, and here is a whole aircraft carrier.
      1. -10
        April 4 2020 18: 28
        Ratmir_Ryazan
        That's for sure ... whiners divorced in VO ... and they are all in the forefront, everything is bad and gone.
        1. +11
          April 4 2020 20: 26
          Quote: NN52
          Ratmir_Ryazan
          That's for sure ... whiners divorced in VO ... and they are all in the forefront, everything is bad and gone.


          Yes, okay, all of us are marshals and generals - all of them are completely uryak ... They give each other "medals" ...

          All phrases are typical, we can when we want, do not catch up. let's blow, drive, win, but that this Trump allows himself ...
          You have all the phrases typical. like a carbon copy.
          And your ratings are outrageous.

          And the "whiners", as you call those who really relate to things. for he sees these realities with his own eyes. and not by article titles - the ratings are low.
          For they are each on their own - and you are a team of bots. Paid. The truth is, I don’t know by whom, and most importantly, I don’t know why.
          For there is no sense from you, your texts only avert.
          Cognitive dissonance is created.
          1. -7
            April 4 2020 21: 55
            SovAr238A (Al)
            Oh, how ... But wasn’t you really tired of whining? Did you serve
            And I have a lot of comments with cognitive desonance? Smart?
            1. +12
              April 4 2020 22: 24
              Quote: NN52
              SovAr238A (Al)
              Oh, how ... But wasn’t you really tired of whining? Did you serve
              And I have a lot of comments with cognitive desonance? Smart?


              no one whines - when there is an actual result ...
              And when one fantasy is empty, from year to year.
              When they were praising "fighting robots" for 5 years. brought to Syria and that's it.
              silence.
              a couple of articles only on anonymous sources that these combat robots turned out to be fiction.

              There is still no real UAV in the great aviation stainless.
              Enemies already have the third generation of combat and reconnaissance UAVs changing, already integrated into the civil aviation system.
              And we have artisanal launches with gum.
              About Hunter is better not to say anything.
              This is a model.

              And it never gets into service.

              The fifth generation of the T-50 in 2015 was supposed to go to combat units, the Tu-160M2 in 2016 was supposed to take off.
              But so far there are no engines for both.

              What's up with Armata? need to ask?

              In all so.
              In the navy, in aviation ...

              Slogans, slogans, every three months they tell us about the existence of "no analogues in the world" - I understand that in 10-15 years something may appear.

              All "not having an analogue in the world" - in fact, turns out to be either average. or failure.

              We praise the S-400 without any combat use.
              We praise the Caliber, shooting them only at bandits on carts.

              We have been praising for years, as in choral singing, but in reality what?
              And nothing.
              Zero.
              There is nothing to praise.

              We have been praising zircons for 5 years.

              And there’s nothing else in fact about Zircon.

              But for 5 years we have already been singing praises to him. "unmatched in the world".
              Analogs will appear in 2 years, and Zircon will not be another 3-4 years in fact.

              And I'm not a whiner, I'm a realist.
              I am offended for the country than you.
              Maybe I just have more conscience and morality than yours?
              Maybe I just accept the problems of the country to my heart?

              You never thought so, never?
              1. -15
                April 4 2020 22: 46
                SovAr238A (Al)
                So ... they wrote a lot, and not on business ...
                Are you the "officer's daughter"? I asked you clearly, did you serve? There is no answer in your writing.
                1. -7
                  April 5 2020 05: 28
                  About his service, if there was one, I have no data, although he wrote that he worked in one design office in the late 80s and early 80s. So white-ticket. From his words:
                  Year of birth. - 1970
                  Place of birth - Kuibyshev (Samara)
                  Son of Russian and Tatar
                  Engaged in / supplies for oil industry workers.

                  Often rude to the participants, writes about what he does not understand, provokes. He threatened to sue VO under Article 13.15 of the Code of Administrative Offenses.
              2. -6
                April 5 2020 00: 28
                Are you reporting from state acceptance? You have already been removed from the admission? Vouchers to Turkey or Egypt?
      2. 0
        April 6 2020 17: 06
        And this is not nagging! Appetites for someone to moderate! A fresh example is Rosflotservice, for example, selling standard antennas cp-22 diamond for 25000 rubles! Although you can safely buy cheaper than 5000 !!! These antennas are in the range 144-174 MHz. They are only shortened a little to minimize the SWR in the range of 156.8 MHz ... A minute of work with a hacksaw for metal or a second grinder .... Profit from the air! And believe me, in the defense industry, as with the civilian fleet, prices are too high at times!
    9. +4
      April 4 2020 18: 23
      Well, for example, we figured out one ship, the reason was allegedly found! But !!! We had several warships burning in different fleets! What about them? Still looking for a scapegoat?
      1. -1
        April 5 2020 00: 35
        Who will tell us? Who will they tell?
        Right. The state commission will tell. Not for a wide range of information. And here you are "like a fish on ice" - report to me, show me ...
    10. -2
      April 4 2020 19: 09
      The material does not at all illuminate the fate of the PD-50. In fact, the commissioning of the aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" and the fate of the PD-50 are interrelated.
      1. +3
        April 4 2020 19: 42
        No longer connected. Now the cruiser is associated with the reconstruction and expansion of the dry dock at the 35 shipyard. So, we will wait first for this dock, and then for the completion of the repair of our only aircraft carrier.
    11. +4
      April 4 2020 19: 10
      I doubt very much that diesel fuel (diesel fuel) caught fire from welding spatter!
      1. +2
        April 4 2020 20: 28
        Quote: Michael Trachtenberg
        I doubt very much that diesel fuel (diesel fuel) caught fire from welding spatter!


        It was with the army that it went — it was necessary to conceal theft in warehouses by fires.
        From the very beginning, as soon as the weapon ceased to be medieval.
        With the development of quartermanship.
        1. +5
          April 4 2020 21: 49
          Somehow, we have burned kapterkah, freestanding.
          They called the city roast, put out, wrote and sent to the district headquarters, as expected, the protocol
          A day later, a commission from the headquarters arrived. In that place there was already a volleyball court lined with roses, on which the training was ordered to play volleyball.
          1. +5
            April 4 2020 21: 49
            Quote: Avior
            Somehow, we have burned kapterkah, freestanding.
            They called the city roast, put out, wrote and sent to the district headquarters, as expected, the protocol
            A day later, a commission from the headquarters arrived. In that place there was already a volleyball court lined with roses, on which the training was ordered to play volleyball.


            Beauties.
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      2. +4
        April 4 2020 21: 42
        Electric welding is molten metal, burns from it often, at our construction site, waterproofing at the basement once caught fire.

        The welder is told what and how to cook, and what is not known to him from below. A few drops of metal fell and set on fire.

        This happens.
        1. +3
          April 4 2020 21: 58
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Electric welding is molten metal, burns from it often, at our construction site, waterproofing at the basement once caught fire.

          The welder is told what and how to cook, and what is not known to him from below. A few drops of metal fell and set on fire.

          This happens.


          2 submarines were especially significant burnt during the repair.
          American Miami - burned out for good.
          The Eagle "burned out" enough, so much so that 2 years later it was urgently repaired.
    12. +5
      April 4 2020 21: 37
      Yoshkin cat. What could have burned out on a warship of 500 lyam? I’m from a land explorer, and I imagine the ship as Ugryum-Burcheev. The body is assembled from steel parts welded by welding, with the help of graduates of vocational schools. Installation for vertical launch of missiles is welded into the case (not much more complicated than a boiler for home heating). Aircraft take off from the deck, certainly in two, at the command of the mayor. The ship’s engine is something magical that only Stalin, or Kmi Jong-un, could build. Modern industry, without an arena for collective kneeling, definitely cannot do this. There is nothing more unnecessary on the ship, except for stocks of millet. What is there to burn?
      To clean the bottom, since the dock has been drowned, divers are indispensable ... And in the end, what a magic "docking" procedure, that you cannot do without it? Are you serious now? If a ship cannot exist without being repaired / upgraded every six months, it is simply not needed.
      1. +4
        April 4 2020 21: 46
        Can you imagine how many cables and all kinds of units and apparatuses there are ?!

        There is something to burn there.

        I hope the conclusions will be finally drawn.
      2. +5
        April 4 2020 22: 01
        Quote: Arthur 85
        Yoshkin cat. What could have burned out on a warship of 500 lyam? I’m from a land explorer, and I imagine the ship as Ugryum-Burcheev. The body is assembled from steel parts welded by welding, with the help of graduates of vocational schools. Installation for vertical launch of missiles is welded into the case (not much more complicated than a boiler for home heating). Aircraft take off from the deck, certainly in two, at the command of the mayor. The ship’s engine is something magical that only Stalin, or Kmi Jong-un, could build. Modern industry, without an arena for collective kneeling, definitely cannot do this. There is nothing more unnecessary on the ship, except for stocks of millet. What is there to burn?
        To clean the bottom, since the dock has been drowned, divers are indispensable ... And in the end, what a magic "docking" procedure, that you cannot do without it? Are you serious now? If a ship cannot exist without being repaired / upgraded every six months, it is simply not needed.



        May 23 2012 year.
        Due to criminal negligence of the repairman, a fire occurred. The fire began to spread rapidly across the boat; It took more than a hundred hours to extinguish it, which involved more than a hundred people, with 12 people injured. The result of the fire was a burnt torpedo compartment and command post, the lower deck was flooded, numerous pipelines were damaged - due to overheating, which changed the structure of the metal, their strength fell below a safe level. The reactor was shut down in advance and its protection prevented the release of radioactive substances, but most boat control systems were damaged or destroyed. The damage to the boat was, according to preliminary estimates, $ 7 million, another 400 million losses were incurred by the shipyard.
        ...
        The estimated estimate for the restoration of the boat was $ 450 million, and even with full and timely financing, the repair could not be completed before mid-2015. It was assumed that it would be possible to use some elements of the decommissioned and dismantled Memphis boat in 2011, but the design of the boats turned out to be so different that it was impossible. On August 6, 2013, the US Navy announced that due to budget cuts, it was forced to abandon plans to restore the Miami submarine. The final cost of restoration, taking into account the existing financing scheme, amounted to $ 700 million, which was considered unacceptable. It was decided that it would be more appropriate to spend these funds on work on other ships and submarines.
        1. +2
          April 4 2020 22: 31
          Some kind of Edik went over all my posts and put down minus signs everywhere ...
          I amused my ego.
          I implemented all my children's complexes.
          More, more ...
          Rzhu!
          Over such!
    13. +2
      April 4 2020 23: 32
      They poked around in the fall, but there is a rock
    14. +4
      April 5 2020 00: 42
      Yes, what problems, it’s only half a billion .... For such a powerful economy as the Russian one, by no means a mere penny. Just raise another retirement age, that's all.
      1. +1
        April 5 2020 07: 37
        Another mono taxes to introduce some, the same is a good option.
    15. +2
      April 5 2020 01: 00
      Yes, it’s necessary to cut it into scrap metal. Money is nowhere. Better to build more frigate corvettes.
    16. +1
      April 5 2020 07: 22
      And someone, for something in the USC will be responsible or another blah blah?
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    18. +2
      April 5 2020 10: 43
      An aircraft carrier is gentle on Russia; this is not only a matter of prestige, but, first and foremost, maintaining competence in the construction and operation of aircraft carriers and carrier-based aircraft.

      Whatever the damage, the TAVKR "Admiral Kuznetsov" must be restored, modernized and put into operation for combat training of pilots and sailors.

      And as a result of the accident, conduct a trial and take measures so that from now on docks do not sink and ships do not burn during repairs.

      Until Russia builds new aircraft carriers TAVKR "Admiral Kuznetsov" will allow enriching the experience of using such ships, so that the next ship of this class in Russia would be better, more reliable and more powerful.
    19. +1
      April 5 2020 11: 43
      A suitcase without a pen cannot be carried and it is a pity to abandon, but for lack of a stamp we write in simple.
    20. +1
      April 5 2020 20: 53
      With such a scale of numbers ... Absolutely, it is easier to start a new one.
      There, everything that could be saved burned out along the way.
      I mean now, there’s nothing to save there. In addition to the body ...

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