Ukraine conducted another test of RCC "Neptune"

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Ukraine conducted another test of RCC "Neptune"

Ukraine has conducted another test of the domestic anti-ship missile Neptune. Shooting took place at the state test site of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "Alibey" in the Odessa region.

According to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, on April 2, 2020, the R-360 anti-ship missile was tested for the first time in the Ukrainian anti-ship missile system RK-360MTs "Neptune" with an active homing radar mounted on the missile (ARLGSN). Prior to this, all tests were carried out without a homing head.



According to the developers, during the test, a missile with an inert warhead successfully hit a floating target at a distance of 75 km.


April 2, Ukrainian engineers and designers achieved an outstanding achievement! For the first time in our stories the launch of the Neptune anti-ship missile developed by the Luch Design Bureau with the inclusion of an active radar homing head developed by the Radionics company was completed, and for the first time Neptune detected and hit a target at a marine test range!

- Yuri Butusov wrote on Facebook.

At the same time, it is noted that the tests were carried out within the allocated funding for 2019, for 2020, funds were not allocated for projects to develop the Neptune and Alder-M missiles manufactured by KB Luch. Whether they are included in the budget of Ukraine in general is not reported.
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    1. -4
      April 4 2020 17: 13
      According to the developers, during the test, a missile with an inert warhead successfully hit a floating target at a distance of 75 km.

      So Getman Sagaidachnogo, we will not see ....
      1. 0
        April 4 2020 17: 17
        That is, that the development took place, you have no doubt?
        1. -1
          April 4 2020 17: 26
          Nazarii hi having that Soviet backlog from the defense industry, they could send a man into space themselves! The rocket is not created from scratch, as, for example, our "Calibers"! Here the Soviet rocket is taken as a basis! So, the main thing is entering service, and competent maintenance and operation. That was not like a hammer with mortars! And then the word "fleet" in the uk-roine will become a dirty word! !!
          1. +7
            April 4 2020 17: 40
            Quote: Thrifty
            The rocket is not created from scratch, like, for example, our "Calibers"! Here the Soviet rocket is taken as a basis!

            Well, yes, yes ...
            Caliber family rockets were created on the basis of two projects: developed during the period from 1975 to 1984 in the SMKB "Novator" 3M10 strategic nuclear cruise missile with a combat radius of 2500 km; and the Alpha anti-ship missile contest (RUR Turquoise).
          2. +5
            April 4 2020 18: 02
            Under the Soviet Union, rocket engines were indeed made on the territory of Ukraine, but homing heads were not made there.
            1. 0
              April 4 2020 18: 21
              Quote: Co-Pilot
              Under the Soviet Union, rocket engines were indeed made on the territory of Ukraine, but homing heads were not made there.

              Rocket engines for which missiles, as well as GOS, for which missiles?
              1. -2
                April 5 2020 11: 47
                Quote: svp67
                engines for which missiles

                in particular, R-95-300, a variant of which R-95TM is used by KTRV on X-35 missiles
          3. -1
            April 4 2020 21: 42
            Quote: Thrifty
            The rocket was not created from scratch, as, for example, our "Caliber

            And Caliber was not created from scratch. You could say he is a follower of Tomahawk and Pomegranate. Russia also still lives on the legacy of the USSR
            1. +5
              April 5 2020 04: 08
              Quote: Gregory_45
              Russia also still lives on the legacy of the USSR

              and what ??? the basis of the USSR was Russia !!! fool tongue
              1. -3
                April 5 2020 12: 03
                Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                and what ???

                Have you read the comment carefully? All fragments of the former USSR still use its heritage. Or will you challenge? ..)

                Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                the basis of the USSR was Russia

                the entire industry of the Union was built on broad cooperation. In particular, the missile hulls were made in one place, the engine in another, the GOS in the third (and in fact the GOS itself was made by three or four enterprises), the control system in the fourth, and at the fifth enterprise all this was put together. And often subcontractors were territorially divided by republic. Therefore, many current independent states own part of the competencies of the former Union
                1. +5
                  April 5 2020 18: 27
                  Quote: Gregory_45
                  Have you read the comment carefully? All fragments of the former USSR still use its heritage. Or will you challenge? ..)

                  you read it inattentively !!! all "your" reproaches about Russia's use of the USSR's legacy are not worth a dime, because the basis of the USSR was precisely Russia ... I’m not saying that the predecessor of the USSR was the Russian Empire, and not the Ukrainian or any other !!! request but the former have poured so much slop on the USSR that they certainly should have abandoned its heritage !!! negative
                  Quote: Gregory_45
                  the entire industry of the Union was built on broad cooperation. In particular, the missile hulls were made in one place, the engine in another, the GOS in the third (and in fact the GOS itself was made by three or four enterprises), the control system in the fourth, and at the fifth enterprise all this was put together. And often subcontractors were territorially divided by republic. Therefore, many current independent states own part of the competencies of the former Union

                  it's all good, but again you forget that Russia built it all for them, and not the Ukrainian SSR, BSSR, GSSR, etc., etc., built high-tech and high-tech industries on the territory of the RSFSR !!! wink
                  1. -3
                    April 5 2020 18: 54
                    Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                    all "your" reproaches about Russia's use of the legacy of the USSR

                    this is not a reproach, it is a fact whether you like it or not. And, I repeat, not only Russia, but also the former republics use this heritage
                    1. +5
                      April 5 2020 19: 18
                      Quote: Gregory_45
                      Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                      all "your" reproaches about Russia's use of the legacy of the USSR

                      this is not a reproach, it is a fact whether you like it or not. And, I repeat, not only Russia, but also the former republics use this heritage

                      the fact is that Russia uses its own heritage !!! everything else is "your" distortion in an attempt to throw it at the fan against Russia !!!
                      1. -3
                        April 5 2020 19: 34
                        Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                        these are "your" distortions in an attempt to throw at the fan against Russia !!!

                        these are just your fantasies)

                        Russia uses the legacy of the USSR, not the RSFSR. You do not know the difference, did not study at school?
                        1. +5
                          April 5 2020 19: 37
                          Quote: Gregory_45
                          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                          these are "your" distortions in an attempt to throw at the fan against Russia !!!

                          these are just your fantasies)

                          Russia uses the legacy of the USSR, not the RSFSR. You do not know the difference, did not study at school?

                          or yours !! lol
                        2. -4
                          April 5 2020 19: 50
                          Quote: Nikolai Grek
                          Quote: Gregory_45
                          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                          these are "your" distortions in an attempt to throw at the fan against Russia !!!

                          these are just your fantasies)

                          Russia uses the legacy of the USSR, not the RSFSR. You do not know the difference, did not study at school?

                          or yours !! lol

                          no, I have order with knowledge, and with logic, and with the psyche)
                          Recall enterprises such as Antonov Design Bureau, Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, Motor Sich, brands such as KrAZ, MAZ do not tell you anything? Or were all their products designed in the RSFSR? So what are we still squeakingly replacing Ukrainian turbines with frigates?
                          I’ll tell you a terrible secret: KZKT tractors, which were in demand before the bankruptcy of the plant, are nothing more than a completed MAZ in Kurgan. And how many MAZs and KrAZs were in the army? Whose development of management systems are part of the ICBMs? I’ll also reveal a secret - KB South. Which aircraft are still the most massive in the BTA of the Russian Federation? Aircraft brand AN. And where was built almost the entire navy of the USSR?

                          In my opinion, the coronavirus also reached you) And deprived the remnants of knowledge and logic
                        3. +5
                          April 5 2020 21: 30
                          Quote: Gregory_45
                          In my opinion, the coronavirus also reached you) And deprived the remnants of knowledge and logic

                          Nooooo, he just didn’t spare you ... though, apparently, he brought a little bit of current, and you’ve already lost a GM defeat !!! lol you can write spatial speeches to me, you can endlessly enumerate KB, etc. etc ... you can continue to fantasize and dream, but all this came to light thanks to the RSFSR and the bright Russian heads !!! request tongue
                        4. -4
                          April 5 2020 21: 41
                          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                          but all this was born thanks to the RSFSR

                          with such speeches you remind me of certain nations. Everything under the Moon appeared exclusively to them)) Strange, but those nations and nationalities, having so much in common, for some reason do not like each other. And so, you look from the side - two boots of steam
                        5. +5
                          April 5 2020 21: 46
                          Quote: Gregory_45
                          with such speeches you remind me of certain nations.

                          It's your problems!! wassat
                        6. +1
                          April 6 2020 11: 41
                          Quote: Gregory_45
                          Recall enterprises such as Antonov Design Bureau, Yuzhnoye Design Bureau,

                          Since you are an amateur in matters of the military-industrial complex, I remind you that a design bureau at any enterprise is lower in status than an industrial research institute, not to mention academic science. And his tasks do not include fundamental research, but as a rule the main part of the work is not related to development, but to technological support of serial production, although they can also develop something themselves.
                          Quote: Gregory_45
                          like KrAZ, MAZ do not tell you anything?

                          MAZ actually has nothing to do with Ukraine, but if you knew the real picture of providing the armed forces with automotive equipment, then you would know the BASIC brands of military vehicles in the USSR - ZIL, GAZ, KAMAZ and the Urals, and they were all in the RSFSR.
                          Quote: Gregory_45
                          And how many MAZs and KrAZs were in the army?

                          With respect to all automotive equipment there are very few - for example, MAZs were used as tractors, and even then it is limited, for example, in a company of heavy vehicles. Well, some mobile missile systems were made at the MAZ base in Belarus, but not in Ukraine.

                          Quote: Gregory_45
                          In my opinion, the coronavirus also reached you) And deprived the remnants of knowledge and logic

                          You haven’t been friends with a coronavirus for a long time, since you’re trying to imitate the tales of Ukrainian propaganda.
                        7. -2
                          April 6 2020 11: 47
                          Quote: ccsr
                          as a rule, the bulk of the work is not related to development

                          Based on this phrase, I conclude that you have never worked in a specialized KB. Those. the amateur here is you

                          Quote: ccsr
                          MAZ actually has no relation to Ukraine

                          I know this very well) If you could read, you would know that we had a dispute that not everything was created in the RSFSR, some in the republics, incl. in Ukraine and Belarus
                        8. +1
                          April 6 2020 12: 22
                          Quote: Gregory_45
                          Based on this phrase, I conclude that you have never worked in a specialized KB. Those. the amateur here is you

                          I took R&D at some design bureaus, including the Chernivtsi SKTB "Fonon". So you will tell your tales to those who do not know how all this was organized in the USSR. By the way, design bureaus are all specialized - I have not heard that any of them took on work outside their specialization, and only after the restructuring some began to develop pans.
                          Quote: Gregory_45
                          you would know that we were having a debate that not everything was created in the RSFSR, some in the republics, including in Ukraine and Belarus

                          All the basic science in the RSFSR was, but the fact that aircraft production was even located in Central Asia was not news for anyone. Even the engines for the R-36 were developed in Moscow, although the product itself was assembled in Dnepropetrovsk.
                        9. -2
                          April 6 2020 12: 32
                          fairy tales here you tell, as if design bureaus are not engaged in development. Maintenance of the series is only a small fraction in the scope of work of the design bureau, the lion's part is just the development of new and the modernization of serial equipment. From which I conclude once again: you are completely unfamiliar with the work of the design bureau; you are uploading here about your achievements and regalia. I have never seen such a short-sighted alleged representative of the Soviet design school)
                        10. +1
                          April 6 2020 14: 24
                          Quote: Gregory_45
                          Maintenance of the series is only a small fraction in the scope of work of the design bureau,

                          Like all amateurs, you have no idea how the factory design bureau differs from the design bureau, so you are sculpting various nonsense here. You write "Design Bureau Yuzhnoye", and it was "Design Bureau" Yuzhnoye ", and the status of" special "meant that it was equated to an industry research institute. You don't even know these subtleties, so you're lying that the factory design bureau is developing.
        2. 0
          April 4 2020 17: 40
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          That is, that the development took place, you have no doubt?

          What happened? Analogue of the 2nd generation RCC? Now the range of 75 km is a kindergarten .. It's like with their alder .. everything grows from one root .. Only in Russia it grows after all, but up .. then in Ukraine it’s not clear how, and what's more ... why? It would be better if they bought from China or France, ready-made good coastal complexes. Saving both time and money.
          1. +1
            April 4 2020 20: 49
            GOS tests are not carried out at maximum range
            At maximum range, these are separate tests.
          2. 0
            April 4 2020 21: 46
            Quote: dvina71
            Now the range of 75km is a kindergarten

            and who told you that this is the maximum range ???

            Quote: dvina71
            Analogue 2 generation RCC

            Nevertheless, Russia still operates the X-35, and missiles are also used abroad.
            1. +1
              April 4 2020 22: 08
              Quote: Gregory_45
              Quote: dvina71
              Now the range of 75km is a kindergarten

              and who told you that this is the maximum range ???

              Quote: dvina71
              Analogue 2 generation RCC

              Nevertheless, Russia still operates the X-35, and missiles are also used abroad.

              The keyword is operating. And not only .. the modernized X-35 flies already at 260 in export performance.
              1. -2
                April 4 2020 23: 31
                Quote: dvina71
                modernized X-35 flies already at 260 in export performance

                260 km is both the range of the X-35U version for the Russian Navy and the range of the export version of the X-35UE.

                Neptune in terms of performance is closer to the X-35U than to the base case. The fuel supply was increased (the range increased to 280 km), a slightly more powerful warhead (150 kg) was installed, the ARGSN of its own design - all this with a slightly longer length and weight of the Ukrainian product
        3. -1
          April 4 2020 18: 07
          And what kind of development ?? They copied the X35, while without a seeker. Well, how can they copy in Ukraine, the whole world was laughing, when in Ukraine they decided to make a copy of the 1943 mortar. That Hammer flew higher than current Neptune
        4. +7
          April 4 2020 23: 56
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          That is, that the development took place, you have no doubt?

          ==========
          Yes, WHO would have doubted! "CONSIDERED" ... "development" .....
          In 2004, the Kiev design bureau "Luch" was handed over "for familiarization" the X-35 "Uran" anti-ship missile (then there was still a glimmer of hope for the deployment of JOINT production of these missiles) ..... But .... "Maidan" burst out, to power on Ukraine came amersky haluy Yushchenko .... Many joint projects "covered with a copper basin" (including the project of joint production of X-35) .... But! The rocket was never returned .... "Household" "kurkuli" decided to continue copying .... This "idiot" stretched for as much as 14 years! In the absence of components from the Russian Federation, we decided to transfer to use "Western", well, the "element base" - too! According to the concept of the "gloomy Ukrainian genius" - this was supposed to give the rocket - well, just FANTASTIC opportunities .... But as the "classic" said: We wanted the best ... But it turned out: "as always" !!!
          And here they are "Uranus" and "Neptune" (as they said in the old comics: Find 10 differences!):

          PS Alas! Just a "pirate copy"! request
      2. -7
        April 4 2020 17: 23
        everything is bad on the outskirts ... but to see our capabilities and realities, we generally have a paragraph!. and right now, and "the bunker is covered", with the CHINESE STOCK "also ..s" (virus, I am silent) "... there are options? in Burburgamndii and anthelmintic plants to build on credit? and also? sell Poseidon to Cuba?. throw options. soon
        solariums will give? continue ?
        1. +3
          April 4 2020 17: 27
          Not worth it. And so they throw cons)))
        2. +6
          April 4 2020 17: 41
          Quote: Dead Day
          sowing is coming soon
          solariums will give? continue ?

          The sowing is already going on .. and not on the oxen .. Go on ..
          1. -5
            April 4 2020 18: 12
            Quote: dvina71
            The sowing is already going on .. and not on the oxen .. Go on ..
            Reply

            ice and snow in the fields ... talker. ours here in the Urals, something without such optimism ... you do it ... send your solarium, if that ... I’ll throw off the farm address.
            1. +2
              April 4 2020 18: 25
              send your solarium, if that ... I will throw off the address of the economy.

              And discard - discard. You never mind ... Someone is waiting for the solarium, and someone is thinking about gas generators ... The need for invention is tricky ..
              1. -1
                April 4 2020 19: 00
                Quote: Kerensky
                And discard - discard. You never know what

                and throw, I’ll report on any channels, I swear, at least, we honest people from the Urals. will you demand our life in return ...? or what ...?
            2. +5
              April 4 2020 18: 34
              Quote: Dead Day
              ice and snow in the fields ... talker. ours are in the Urals,

              But the idea that Russia is not limited to one Urals, didn’t occur to you?

              Sowing in the Russian Federation on 01.04.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX
              Belgorod region
              As of March 30, about 30% of the cultivated area designated for spring grain and leguminous crops was sown in the region — more than 85 thousand out of 283,5 thousand hectares. Almost 53 thousand hectares are sown with barley - 62% of the almost 85 thousand hectares allocated for this crop. Spring wheat - 61%, or 25 thousand hectares of the planned 41 thousand hectares. Oats are already sown on 74% of the area, or on 4,2 thousand hectares from a 5 thousandth wedge.
              Bashkortostan
              The field season of 2020 has started in the republic. Moisture closure work was carried out on 200 hectares. The area of ​​spring sowing in 2020 will be about 2 million 50 thousand hectares. Winter crops were sown in the fall on an area of ​​about 400 thousand hectares. According to the preliminary forecast for their overwintering, in the whole republic, the death of winter crops may amount to 6-8%.
              Bryansk region
              As of March 31, winter grain crops were fed on 178,9 thousand ha or 100% of the plan. Soil preparation for spring sowing was carried out on an area of ​​137,5 thousand ha (35% of the plan). Sowing of spring grain and leguminous crops was carried out on an area of ​​9,9 thousand ha (8% of the plan), of which: wheat - 3,5 thousand ha, oats - 4,6 thousand ha, barley - 1,2 thousand ha. Sowing spring cereals is conducted in 19 districts.
              Krasnodar
              The sowing campaign is proceeding at a faster pace. The farms of the region are sowing sunflower and sugar beets. According to current data, today spring crops are sown on an area of ​​more than 340 thousand ha, which is 19% of the sowing plan and is 174,8 thousand ha more than last year. Sugar beets sown on an area of ​​more than 132 thousand hectares, sunflower occupies 37,6 thousand hectares. This year, about 2 million ha will be sown with spring crops.
              Republic of Crimea
              Sowing of early spring crops for the 2020 harvest is completed. The sown area amounted to about 90 thousand hectares of early spring grain and leguminous crops per grain. Sown spring barley, wheat, oats and legumes. More than two thousand hectares of spring sown on forage. More than 70% of the total sown area of ​​winter crops is in good and satisfactory condition, weak, thinned - by 29%. The winter crops on the area of ​​376 hectares are sown with grain and leguminous plants. The availability of mineral fertilizers in the republic today is 22 thousand tons of agricultural products. 96% Fertilizers from the beginning of the year 18,4 thousand tons in a.v. on an area of ​​390 thousand hectares. The total area of ​​crops is more than 791 thousand hectares. Compared with last year, it increased by almost 21 thousand hectares due to winter sowing or 103% compared to last year. The area of ​​winter sowing amounted to more than 508 thousand hectares.

              Here is this site: http://zerno.ru/node/9075
              There and beyond, continuation to other regions is available
              1. -5
                April 4 2020 19: 04
                Quote: svp67

                But the idea that Russia is not limited to one Urals, didn’t occur to you?

                yes, as it were, according to .. The hump of ancestors ..... didn’t come ..., according to History, they teared blood flaps from us, and they tear it.
                1. +2
                  April 5 2020 00: 45
                  You need a specialist, maybe not everything is lost, there is always hope.
            3. +3
              April 4 2020 19: 52
              Quote: Dead Day
              send your solarium, if that ... farm address skin

              He drank his own, or what?
            4. +3
              April 4 2020 19: 57
              Quote: Dead Day
              ice and snow in the fields ..

              Where? In Crimea? ON THE KUBAN?
              AT look and do not tryndi ..



              I can add a dozen links ..
            5. +3
              April 5 2020 02: 49
              Quote: Dead Day
              Quote: dvina71
              The sowing is already going on .. and not on the oxen .. Go on ..
              Reply

              ice and snow in the fields ... talker. ours here in the Urals, something without such optimism ... you do it ... send your solarium, if that ... I’ll throw off the farm address.

              article of 25. 03. 2020
              Farmers in the Primorsky Territory sowed 120 hectares of oats and barley.

              According to the Department of Agriculture and Food of Primorye, peasants covered almost two thousand hectares of moisture, introduced more than 700 tons of mineral fertilizers and dressed seeds.

              “The sowing company started from the Oktyabrsky district, here agrarians sowed 100 hectares of oats and 20 hectares of barley,” the department noted.

              Recall that the Governor of Primorsky Territory Oleg Kozhemyako emphasized that spring field work should be completed in optimal agrotechnical terms, and crops should be sown within two weeks.
              linkhttps: //www.primorsky.ru/news/158790/
              5 days ago
              The sowing campaign began in the Khabarovsk Territory
              https://www.khabkrai.ru/events/news/177923
              The main thing is to bubble into a puddle, and there at least do not bubble ... One word Deadcastrate...
        3. -7
          April 4 2020 18: 08
          Oil prices have gone up. Again in Ukraine peremoga turned into zrada fellow fellow
        4. -1
          April 4 2020 18: 19
          Quote: Dead Day
          everything is bad on the outskirts ... but to see our capabilities and realities, we generally have a paragraph!. and right now, and "the bunker is covered", with the CHINESE STOCK "also ..s" (virus, I am silent) "... there are options? in Burburgamndii and anthelmintic plants to build on credit? and also? sell Poseidon to Cuba?. throw options. soon
          solariums will give? continue ?

          Wake up. I don't even want to comment on such nonsense. In your opinion, everything in Ukraine is great, once the IMF is demanding from Ukraine to change the law on the sale of land to a stricter one. In fact, Ukraine is being treated as an African, not very developed country, which is about to be sold out like that, otherwise the loan will not be given and the deficit budget will not be able to withstand. oil supplies to China. COVID-2019 around the world, especially in the West. Well, of course, oil-producing Russia does not have diesel fuel, of course. The sanctions allowed Russia to get off the needle, if not completely, then at least halfway through. Although I doubt very much that this Neptune is up to our Kh-35UE.
          1. +1
            April 4 2020 21: 22
            In your opinion, in Ukraine everything is hurt once the IMF demands from Ukraine to change the law on the sale of land to a tougher

            I can understand the Ukrainians who are against the sale of land, mostly notaries who rake a lot of money in various document processing schemes, when foreigners dodge and find loopholes to buy a plot of agricultural land.
            But what do you care about the Ukrainian land, I don’t understand, or would you like me to buy a plot of agricultural land there and open a farm? Do not be shy, contact the PM, I will tell you the scheme by which I bought it as a foreigner.
            1. +3
              April 5 2020 04: 31
              Quote: Bshkaus
              But what do you care about the Ukrainian land, I don’t understand,

              what finally this pigsty has long borders with us !!! fool wassat
        5. +3
          April 4 2020 18: 22
          Quote: Dead Day
          continue ?

          Why so many letters? You can write shorter - EVERYTHING DROPPED !!!!!!
      3. -1
        April 4 2020 17: 48
        Quote: Theodore
        So Getman Sagaidachnogo, we will not see ...

        You know that there is a separate joke with this Zaykadachny, but it’s good that at least not on April 1, a rocket was launched, you would think that this was another overload, overt ass. wassat
        PS Launch then launched, and make money in series, as always Nem. hi
    2. +1
      April 4 2020 17: 15
      Interesting rhetoric has changed. If earlier, irony and ridicule were written in the direction of dill developments, now the article ends with the hope that funding is not expected this year.
      1. -9
        April 4 2020 17: 21
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        If earlier in the direction of dill development irony and ridicule were written,

        So why not laugh now - why do they need such a rocket if they don’t have their own carrier ships, and it’s useless to use such products against the Russian fleet - our ships will not take part in hostilities at such distances at all, if suddenly the svidomye decide to attack us .
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        now the article ends with the hope that funding is not expected this year.
        On the contrary, we should be glad that they are looking for money for this - they’ll stay faster without pants, because new developments are very expensive.
        1. -3
          April 4 2020 17: 25
          Bravo! What a wonderful patriotism! Here, according to the description, and in 1941 it was believed that we would throw hats, because we have everything, and they have it ... And less than ours ...
          And the Yankees about the Japanese also thought ... Keep up the good work, but don’t fall off the couch ....
          1. -5
            April 4 2020 18: 22
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Bravo! What a wonderful patriotism!

            It is not a matter of patriotism, but a sensible assessment of the situation.
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Here is the description and in 1941

            In this case, the comparison only indicates your inadequate assessment of the current situation and what happened in 1941.
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            And the Yankees about the Japanese also thought ...

            You would have remembered Mama's invasion - it is very "topical" for Russia, which is a nuclear power.
            As I understand it, you can’t even seriously evaluate these Svidomo attempts. To begin, tell at least who these complexes will be purchased and in what quantity so that it does not look like another bunch.
          2. +2
            April 4 2020 18: 24
            You draw a parallel between equal rivals of Hitler's Germany and the USSR on the one hand and between the current nuclear superpower of the Russian Federation and forgive .... Ukraine on the other. Oh well.
            1. -2
              April 4 2020 20: 05
              Quote: Sky Strike fighter
              You draw a parallel between equal rivals of Hitler's Germany and the USSR on the one hand and between the current nuclear superpower of the Russian Federation and forgive .... Ukraine on the other. Oh well.
              Well then, you can draw a parallel with the Soviet-Finnish, Russian-Japanese and Soviet-Polish wars. "Who are these Japanese / Poles / Finns, here we are with one left." As a result, we lost 2 wars out of these 3 with a bang, and won the Finnish one so much that you would not wish the enemy such a victory.

              Quote: Sky Strike fighter
              superpower of the Russian Federation
              I understand that I do not want to realize this, but at the moment there is one superpower in the world - the United States. The United States possesses all the necessary criteria for a superpower - it possesses military power, economic power, technological superiority and has enormous political influence. And their satellites are not some Bantustans like Turkmenistan, or small Belarus, but the world’s great powers. China has come most closely to this now, but with the last point - political influence, it has obvious problems.
              Russia lacks all 3 points - the economy is weaker than the economies of the US satellites, while dependent on the export of hydrocarbons to developed countries. Military power is limited by a large nuclear arsenal by today's standards, but economically and technologically, such an arsenal may have the same France or England today, they just do not need it, given their alliance with the United States, Russia is incapable of a real arms race with the United States or China due to the economic backwardness. Political aspect? There is nothing to say, the most mediocre policy led to the loss of all the most important allies, only the Central Asian dictatorships and Belarus remained, which even at the UN cannot vote unanimously with Russia and do not recognize many of its actions. In general, next time you think carefully before pronouncing the words "RF" and "Superpower" next to you, you can inadvertently make your opponent laugh.
              1. 0
                April 5 2020 01: 18
                What a detailed analysis, what a power of intelligence! You forgot about the Crimean one to remind, well, to hint that with such allies as Europe and the USA, oh yes, I forgot the Banderlog Canada Reserve, you can repeat and wash the rash, for which these missiles are required. By the way, did Russia wage the war you mentioned alone and not in alliance with other republics? No, it’s clear that your victories are our bummer, the logic is iron. Well, at least in fact you can say how it turned out that Japan, who won Russia, buzzes the Kuril Islands, and brilliant Finland quietly sighs about Vyborg and Karels what great lands did Poland admit to their capital of sworn Russians? However, I agree that the Poles must return the zemlyats to the Communists unjustly, the one that the Communists unjustly took away. And you are crying in the Crimea and the Donbas and getting ready for revenge, because America is with you wink I watch the Ukrainians and others like them lut, cons are strewed by everyone laughing "Pour in, pour in - she's still alive"
              2. +2
                April 5 2020 11: 44
                Quote: Karaul14
                parallel with the Soviet-Finnish

                Further, this comment can not be read.
        2. -1
          April 4 2020 20: 07
          It is precisely because of this missile that our ships will be limited in approaching the coast, even if it is needed. To neutralize the threat will have to attract more forces, and more diverse.
          1. +1
            April 5 2020 12: 37
            Quote: Peter is not the first
            To neutralize the threat will have to attract more forces, and more diverse.

            To neutralize all this threat, it is enough to deliver a non-nuclear strike to the Kiev reservoir dam with several OTP with increased charge power.
        3. -3
          April 4 2020 20: 53
          For such a missile, a large ship is not necessary, but if the range is true, up to half of the Black Sea can shoot from the coast, or even further
        4. -4
          April 4 2020 21: 50
          Quote: ccsr
          why do they need such a rocket if they don’t have their own carrier ships

          this missile system can:
          - even put on boats of moderate displacement.
          - operate in the form of mobile mobile missile systems (chassis such as KrAZ or MAZ will be found)
          - attach to a plane, for example - upgraded MiGs, or for adapted helicopters
          1. +1
            April 5 2020 12: 35
            Quote: Gregory_45
            this missile system can:

            This missile system is not yet available and it is not in service - this is for starters. In the zero years, I talked with some classmates who held fairly high posts in the Ukrainian army, and they honestly admitted that they practically did not carry out R&D due to lack of funding and scientific personnel. All attempts to upgrade the Soviet tank, armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles and even a mortar ended in failure - nothing new is being produced in series, even KrAZ has remained Soviet. The same thing will happen with this rocket - now they are pretending that they have something there, and when they really appreciate the cost of this rocket and what the equipment for the new production will cost, they will cry and quietly curtail the program.
            Quote: Gregory_45
            - even put on boats of moderate displacement.

            Boats should carry out patrol service throughout the Black Sea, and for now they only go to Odessa near Odessa. Yes, and these boats will destroy our aircraft as soon as they go to sea - if only Svidomo comes to mind to carry out an adventure, like a breakthrough in the Kerch Strait.
            Quote: Gregory_45
            - operate in the form of mobile mobile missile systems (chassis such as KrAZ or MAZ will be found)

            In theory, it all looks beautiful, but in practice - "nema penny", and this is where all Ukrainian dreams will end.
            Quote: Gregory_45
            or for adapted helicopters

            Where did you see them in the Ukrainian army, if they are even afraid to appear over Donetsk?
            1. -4
              April 5 2020 12: 49
              Quote: ccsr
              This missile system is not yet available and is not in service

              tests show that the complex is almost ready for adoption and production.
              They have a coastal mobile installation. With which PU do you think the firing took place?
              Hanging a couple of missiles under the An-26 or putting on boats is also not difficult (compared with the development of the rocket itself)

              But hatreds and carelessness never brought anyone to good.
              1. +1
                April 5 2020 14: 06
                Quote: Gregory_45
                tests show that the complex is almost ready for adoption and production.

                Even in Soviet times, not all samples that passed state tests were adopted - so trim the sturgeon.
                Quote: Gregory_45
                But hatreds and carelessness never brought anyone to good.

                I do not see the Ukrainian armed forces as leaders in the development of weapons, and therefore all that they rivet on their knees does not mean world recognition. We have more serious competitors in the production of weapons, and it is necessary to look at their achievements, and not create Svidomo advertising, as some people who are illiterate in weapons do here.
                Why do you personally prove the danger of this complex to our ships? I don’t see such a danger, if only because such NATO means are significantly superior to what these homemade products rivet in Ukraine, and here they have to beware, because their ships have long been in the Black Sea.
                1. -5
                  April 5 2020 14: 44
                  Quote: ccsr
                  Even in Soviet times, not all samples that passed state tests were adopted - so trim the sturgeon.

                  tell me, are you adequate at all? I wrote that the complex is ready for acceptance into service and production, and not about what will be produced in millions of batches. Did not teach to read at school?

                  Quote: ccsr
                  does not mean world recognition

                  yes they don’t need it. They make a rocket for themselves.

                  Understand one thing that I want to convey which comment to your brain. The presence of these missiles in Ukraine is a threat to both the Crimea and the Black Sea Fleet. And you go into some lengthy discussions about leadership in the production of weapons, about advertising and others. I'm talking about round, you're talking about soft.

                  Quote: ccsr
                  Why do you personally prove the danger of this complex to our ships? I don’t see such a danger, if only because such NATO means far exceed that which these homemade products rivet in Ukraine

                  even the Navy artillery boats pose a threat, albeit a potential one. And here - rocket still appear. Moreover, the rocket is not at the level of self-made, as you deigned to say. It’s quite a modern rocket, an analogue of the Russian X-35U. If you say so, then I will doubt, and very much, any of your technical and military knowledge.
                  Do you think they will not respond to the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? I’m sure how they will become, but these are additional resources. Of which we have not so many.
                  Nobody discounts NATO. Just added to them (or will be added soon) another unpleasant factor. And you absolutely do not take into account the fact that the NATO commanders have more brains in their heads than the leadership of the Armed Forces
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        5. -4
          April 4 2020 23: 59
          Quote: ccsr
          So why not laugh now - why do they need such a rocket if they don’t have their own carrier ships, and it’s useless to use such products against the Russian Navy

          in addition to your comment. The complex can be used as a coastal one, and such an option has been developed in Ukraine. DBK as part of a mobile command post, a USPU-360 combat vehicle based on the KrAZ-7634NE chassis (three batteries, two universal launchers in each) and TZM. Total: 24 rockets ready to launch. In any case, this will have to be reckoned with, including and our ships.
          (source: https://topwar.ru/163330-beregovoj-raketnyj-kompleks-neptun.html)
          1. +1
            April 5 2020 12: 46
            Quote: Gregory_45
            Total: 24 rockets ready to launch. In any case, this will have to be reckoned with, including and our ships.

            Be careful with such statements, because you yourself say that
            Quote: Gregory_45
            The complex can be used as a coastal one, and such an option has been developed in Ukraine.

            The word "possibly" means that there is nothing yet, and the word "developed" does not mean that production is established. So at what stage is this whole venture - are you generally aware of or blindly trust the lying Ukrainian media?
            I am 99% sure that the Ukrainian military budget is being cut, and in order to somehow justify this stupidity, they are throwing such information into the media. Think for yourself - Ukraine does not have the funds to conduct a war in the Donbass and they introduce an additional tax even on retirement, and then suddenly such a concern for anti-missile missiles, as if they would help end the war or conquer the Crimea. Have you tried even to analyze this?
            1. -3
              April 5 2020 13: 03
              Quote: ccsr
              The word "possibly" means

              it means that Neptune, like the X-35, can be used against ground-based radio constricting targets. Teach up the materiel

              Quote: ccsr
              are you up to date

              I have provided links to non-Russian media, in particular - VO, in which you write comments

              And why do they need anti-ship missiles - try to guess for yourself, with your brilliant analytical skills))
              1. +1
                April 5 2020 14: 12
                Quote: Gregory_45
                it means that Neptune, like the X-35, can be used against ground-based radio constricting targets. Teach up the materiel

                Before you pretend to be a connoisseur, first name how many "Neptunes" are on alert, since you dream of using them for ground targets.
                Quote: Gregory_45
                I have provided links to non-Russian media, in particular - VO, in which you write comments

                Different amateurs also write on VO, and moreover often from Ukraine.
                Quote: Gregory_45
                And why do they need anti-ship missiles - try to guess for yourself, with your brilliant analytical skills))

                Until recently, they tried to sell "new" tanks to some countries, but something did not work out. Apparently they came up with a new fun, now they are promoting it.
                1. -4
                  April 5 2020 15: 16
                  Quote: ccsr
                  since you dream of using them for ground purposes.

                  young man, you are clearly inadequate. Why distort my words? I wrote black in Russian
                  Quote: Gregory_45
                  Neptune, like the X-35, may apply against ground radio targets

                  Or is it you, from impotence, spray your saliva? Lead a dispute with dignity and reason, it does not do any other honor to you.

                  Quote: ccsr
                  Different amateurs also write at VO and often from Ukraine.

                  those. Are you not an amateur? And Ukrainians write articles on VO in order to exalt Ukraine, do I understand you correctly?

                  In my opinion, you need urgent medical attention)
                  1. +1
                    April 5 2020 17: 48
                    Quote: Gregory_45
                    I wrote black in Russian
                    Quote: Gregory_45
                    Neptune, like the X-35, can be used

                    How can it be applied if it is not in service? What are you talking about here in general, an "expert" of everything and everyone?
                    Quote: Gregory_45
                    those. Are you not an amateur?

                    On many issues - yes, but I’m sure I understand more about weapons issues than people like you.
                    Quote: Gregory_45
                    And Ukrainians write articles on VO in order to exalt Ukraine, do I understand you correctly?

                    Some Ukrainians conduct Russophobic propaganda here, but to hide it they use various kinds of articles to refute the worthlessness of the Kiev regime - many of you who have been at this forum for a long time will confirm this.
                    Quote: Gregory_45
                    I think you need urgent medical attention

                    In addition to weapons, did you also begin to understand medicine? Everything is clear, the next verbiage undertook to talk about what he has no idea.
                    1. -3
                      April 5 2020 17: 57
                      Quote: ccsr
                      How can it be used if it is not in service?

                      Firstly, it is a matter of time. Secondly, nobody even bothers to use the equipment that is not in service (there are examples of this. For example, the Yak-28P, which was never in service with the USSR Air Force, but was very actively used)

                      Quote: ccsr
                      I'm sure I understand more about weapons issues than people like you.

                      judging by your comments, this is far from the case)

                      Quote: ccsr
                      Some Ukrainians conduct Russophobic propaganda here, but to hide it they use various kinds of articles to refute the worthlessness of the Kiev regime

                      those. a purely technical plan article is an attempt to refute the regime’s worthlessness? From this yes)) This is to the question of your health)
                      1. 0
                        April 5 2020 18: 11
                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        Firstly, it is a matter of time.

                        If you at least understood something in this, then you would have guessed that these were factory tests of an inferior model, and so far there is no question of state tests. But how the state tests will be held, and how much time they will eliminate the deficiencies, you have no idea, but you already predict success - you will walk broadly, tear your pants.
                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        Secondly, nobody even bothers to use the technology that is not in service

                        They used an experienced Ukrainian mortar in the Donbass - how many dead bodies are there, do not tell me? As for the equipment that was not adopted for service, it is in the order of things in Ukraine - there are a lot of photos of their homemade products online, you will find them yourself.
                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        those. a purely technical plan article - is it an attempt to refute the regime’s worthlessness?

                        I’m just sure that this article is cheap PR, and the missiles themselves will never go into service with the Ukrainian army in sufficient quantities, as was the case with the Ukrainian tank. So this is another cut of the military budget of Ukraine and no more. We have all gone through this for a long time, and you will never answer the question of what was NEW developed in non-fall Ukraine.
      2. +1
        April 4 2020 21: 29
        Interesting rhetoric has changed. If earlier .... now the article ends with the hope that funding is not expected this year.

        All these years, he closely followed the development, unfortunately there was no adequate talk on this topic at VO, they brought the rocket to mind at the end of the 18th year, and there was a problem with the homing head. As far as I understand, if it passes successful tests now, the development issue immediately closes in a positive way and the rocket goes into state tests and then into service.
        In this situation, funding is no longer significant and does not apply to OCD.
        Here according to the description and in 1941 it was believed that we would throw hats

        And also, it was planned to beat the enemy in his own territory, along Stalingrad itself! sad
        1. +1
          April 5 2020 01: 28
          Based on this rocket, you draw such conclusions that it’s just breathtaking from the achievements of the Ukrainians, it’s just fear that takes its power away from the armed forces! The enemy cannot be underestimated, but you should not overestimate it, unless to amuse the vanity of local lovers of Ukraine.
          1. +1
            April 5 2020 12: 59
            Quote: Buhach
            The enemy should not be underestimated but should not be overestimated, unless to amuse the vanity of local lovers of Ukraine.

            I think that all this propaganda of the anti-ship rocket is precisely aimed at amusing Svidomo’s vanity, and no more. In fact, who knows the Soviet military-industrial complex, the main scientific brains have always been on the territory of the RSFSR, and production was carried out in Ukraine. After the collapse, their entire military science infrastructure was destroyed, and the Antonov Design Bureau example proves this best of all. So, apart from the combat hapak, the military thought of Ukraine did not come up with anything new, and this is obvious to anyone who understands at least something in modern technology and weapons.
        2. 0
          April 5 2020 12: 52
          Quote: Bshkaus
          As far as I understand, if it passes successful tests now, the development issue immediately closes in a positive way and the rocket goes into state tests and then into service.

          It’s not necessary to lie - firstly, the tests cannot yet be called successful, and secondly, five to ten times more money will be needed to introduce into serial production than to develop a new model. And when all costs are divided by the number of serial samples produced at least five years later, it is possible that the military budget of Ukraine for the creation of ships for this complex will not remain.
          Quote: Bshkaus
          In this situation, funding is no longer significant and does not apply to OCD.

          Do you really know the alignment in the Ukrainian economy, or will you grow these complexes in the fields? Where did you see that the costs of mass production of new weapons are insignificant - who has hanged such noodles on your ears?
    3. -7
      April 4 2020 17: 18
      Normal SOVIET rocket.
      Modified by file.
      Only the name was wrong. "Neptuun" ... Ugh!
      It was necessary "PEREMOG"!
      Or "GUIDANCE"!
      Or "Who Doesn't Ride" "POSKAKUSHKI", or shorter - SUGS!
      1. -1
        April 4 2020 20: 54
        Neptune, I guess that's why Uranus
    4. -3
      April 4 2020 17: 23
      I have only one question. How will all these coastal rk cover from the air from calibers, expanders and other Onyxes?
      1. -3
        April 4 2020 17: 36
        Quote: Sergey 777
        How will all these coastal rk cover from the air from calibers, expanders and other Onyxes?

        Sergei, you'd better tell me why, even if the number of Neptunes is not at all 10 pieces - WHAT and FROM WHOM can they, in principle, cover ?! "Along Piterskaya", meaning from Novoazovsk, through Mariupol - and to Odessa. Shoot-don't-want, just don't miss, steal)))
        1. -2
          April 4 2020 20: 57
          How many are there from Skadovsk to Sevastopol or Donuzlav?
          1. +1
            April 4 2020 23: 10
            Quote: Avior
            How much is there from Skadovsk to Sevastopol

            About two hundred kilometers) So half the way you have to drag this crap on your hands) Then she flew 100 km only in your mrii
          2. +5
            April 5 2020 04: 37
            Quote: Avior
            Skadovsk

            do you yourself mock this rocket in the Crimea or ask for Raguli ??? laughing
    5. -5
      April 4 2020 17: 27
      Hopelessness ... to change the name and fasten something in electronics - that’s just enough ... And what country was there. Powerful, with industry, with science. Even planes and rockets could release ...
    6. -8
      April 4 2020 17: 30
      No, I thought right away. that it will be fun - I was not mistaken ... We screwed our heads, but to test - well, 75 kiloMeters - this is very - well, very far away
      1. -2
        April 4 2020 17: 43
        Well, you are, apparently, one of those "optimists" who, even if they find out that the AUG was sunk with one "Neptune", will still be skeptical:
        - Fi, why not the whole fleet? ...)
        1. -6
          April 4 2020 17: 50
          At 75 from the coast, they let their boats catch, which have not yet caught their mine. I know how in front of the whole beach in Mariupol they scared fish scare?
        2. +5
          April 5 2020 04: 39
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Well, you are, apparently, one of those "optimists" who, even if they find out that the AUG was sunk with one "Neptune", will still be skeptical:
          - Fi, why not the whole fleet? ...)

          what oyyyyy, yes okay, soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooay .... when it comes to Russia, your co-religionists laugh that one Russian anti-ship missile will be able to sink an aircraft carrier .... but as it comes to raguli, they will immediately sink !!! wassat laughing
    7. +2
      April 4 2020 17: 33
      They are now only testing the "neptune" .. After the IMF's demand on the law "On Land"
      1. +1
        April 4 2020 21: 38
        They are now only testing the "neptune" .. After the IMF's demand on the law "On Land"

        When you explain to me why Ukraine cannot sell agricultural land to foreigners, but in Russia it is possible and necessary, I will replace the "minus" given to you with "plus".
        1. -1
          April 4 2020 22: 56
          Quote: Bshkaus
          in Russia it is possible and necessary, I

          You are forgivable ... as a resident of Ukraine, you are not aware of the intricacies of Russian law. And you probably do not know such a term as property law. And two. Foreigners can only rent land for agricultural purposes.
          1. 0
            April 4 2020 23: 07
            Judging by the way that Ukraine, which received "nEzalEzhnost", parted with nuclear weapons with ease of a rural idiot (by signing some kind of phony letter in the form of the "Budapest Memorandum"), the current Maidan Ukraine, with the same ease, will part with the land. I won’t be surprised ...
          2. +1
            April 4 2020 23: 17
            You are excusable .. as a resident of Ukraine

            Read the Constitution to begin with, in anticipation of the vote it is very important:
            Clause 3 of Article 62 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation stipulates that foreign citizens and stateless persons enjoy rights and responsibilities in the Russian Federation on an equal basis with Russian citizens, except in cases established by federal law or an international treaty of the Russian Federation.
            and for dessert:
            Land plots are provided to foreign citizens and stateless persons exclusively for a fee (clause 4 of article 39.4 of the RF Labor Code). A foreigner cannot acquire land in Russia at no cost
            So do not ...
            And yet, in the appendage - I am a citizen of the Russian Federation
        2. 0
          April 4 2020 23: 03
          No need to do me your favors, in the form of "plus" and "minus". Kindergarten of some kind .. Leave your "plus" yourself. )
          1. +1
            April 4 2020 23: 11
            Do not do me your favors

            I was not going to do you any favors and I am not going to, I asked you a specific question:
            why Ukraine can not sell agricultural land for foreigners, and in Russia it is possible and necessary
            Can you answer it seriously and reasonably?
            1. -1
              April 4 2020 23: 13
              I gave an exhaustive answer. Read it again. If you do not understand immediately.
              1. +1
                April 4 2020 23: 23
                I gave an exhaustive answer

                You didn’t give any comprehensive answer, you didn’t give any answer at all
                And two. Foreigners can only rent land for agricultural purposes.

                Without reference to a legal document, this is an empty key shake.
                Once again: read the Constitution of the Russian Federation n3 article 62 and n 4 article 39,4.
                My first question, which I expect from you a direct answer, is to be repeated again?
                1. 0
                  April 4 2020 23: 35
                  Listen, you are my restless, do you consider yourself smarter than the economists from the IMF? .. Why are you rewriting fads from the Constitution to me and are engaged in "materializing sensual ideas"? Have you heard such a thing as a "reference" article?
                  And then, do not force the keyboard in vain - I left you a whole "plus sign". Take it easy.
                  1. +1
                    April 4 2020 23: 57
                    Listen, you restless mine

                    Andrei Nikolaevich, apparently, we will not find a common language with you.
                    Unfortunately, I still haven’t received an answer from you on a specifically asked question, and apparently I won’t get it.
                    What are you rewriting the fad from the Constitution

                    The "paragraph" from the Constitution is an objective fact that I have cited as an argument.
                    I have not received more than one answer from you. Yeah you're trying to me inspire that foreigners do not have the right to buy land, but I can only convince and if you would provide me with concrete facts, and not as you put it "materialization of sensual ideas" in the form of a mythical concept as a "reference article" and "property right" without reference to the source, then I would accept your point of view about which honestly and warned in my first comment
                    I will replace the "minus" given to you with "plus"

                    So let's round off in our failed dispute.
                    1. -1
                      April 5 2020 00: 06
                      I'm glad you understood me. And just like you, I love the objective evidence of your innocence. You, however, did not submit any evidence to me (with the exception of the list of articles of the Basic Law).
                      All the best.
    8. -8
      April 4 2020 17: 44
      They took the ancient X-35 "Uranus", broke it down, called the P-360 "Neptune" and are proud. A subsonic anti-ship missile with a range of 75 km is a laughing matter for chickens. And the activity of the GOS, apparently, lies in the fact that it jumps in the body and yells "Hto does not jump, that ..."
      1. +2
        April 4 2020 18: 09
        The Neptune's range is 280-300 km, the missile is larger in size than the Kh-35 and heavier. Well, your comment does not carry any semantic meaning.
        1. -1
          April 4 2020 18: 20
          If you look at the performance characteristics of missiles, you will see that the range has increased compared to the X-35 (from 130 km supposedly to 300 km), and compared to the X-35U the growth is smaller))) (from 260 to supposedly 300 km), while with a starting accelerator increased from 4,40 m to 5,05 m, weight with an accelerator from 600-670 kg to 87 kg, warhead weight increased from 145 kg to 150 kg. As a result, we have a variant of the old Soviet missile that is degraded in all respects. Just look at weight perfection))) So don’t have to carry a blizzard, our inexpensive jumping enemy)))
        2. -4
          April 4 2020 18: 45
          Quote: Equalized
          The Neptune's range is 280-300 km, the missile is larger in size than the Kh-35 and heavier. Well, your comment does not carry any semantic meaning.

          Confirmed range of 75 km.
    9. -4
      April 4 2020 17: 54

      Photo hit. It looks like a hole in which not every dog ​​will crawl ...
      1. -4
        April 4 2020 18: 33
        They, you would know what fleet on the outskirts. He can’t be bitten well by Sy - Don, nor Neptune. Razi that moonshine
      2. 0
        April 4 2020 21: 00
        And what hole should the inert warhead leave?
      3. -1
        April 4 2020 21: 55
        Quote: Moskovit
        It looks like a hole in which not every dog ​​will crawl ...

        and you from an inert warhead (read - blank) expected a torn container to shreds ???
        1. 0
          April 5 2020 06: 55
          I don’t know who was expecting what, but I would have thought that the spread wings would not leave a neat round hole, but a hole with torn edges. The right support next to the hole would definitely hurt.
    10. 0
      April 4 2020 18: 06
      Old flight video

      1. -3
        April 4 2020 18: 39
        When will you stop flying on the Soviet-Russian
        Su-27 and Mig-29 (created by engineers of the RSFSR and made in the RSFSR) and make your own fighter. You get a mockery of the Russian Army. Even you try to clone our X-35UE from the whole variety of RCCs in the world, so instead of your mini -reichstag, where the Rada is meeting soon will begin to build its own Kremlin. They would have taken it better. They would have copied the Amersky Harpoon. They seem to be like your sidekick. Or not? Do you have at least something of your own? Or can you just copy and mimic it?
      2. -3
        April 4 2020 22: 32
        Quote: Equalized
        Old flight video

        Yesterday, the Su 27 link also accompanied the tests; many saw the approach. It is impossible to mix turquoise drying against the sky.
        Oleg Korostelev, General Director and General Designer of the Scientific and Production Association Luch.
    11. 0
      April 4 2020 18: 12
      a normal rocket for a poor country, the range is also decent, to develop several options for the carrier, and can warheads and quite come down to hit ships and stationary infrastructure
      1. -7
        April 4 2020 18: 43
        After that, Ukraine will be completely torn to pieces by neighbors from all sides and the IMF will only contribute to this. Purely Ukrainian suicide. Life weighs on a thread and thinks about profit.
        1. -2
          April 4 2020 18: 50
          well since 14 years old they’re fucked) best friends, already afraid of
          1. -2
            April 4 2020 19: 03
            Seriously, is it? Ukrainians are already fighting in the whole with Poland, Romania, Hungary, not to mention Russia? Something in the Crimea didn’t dare. It’s scary. It’s easier because it’s easier to unleash a civil war with the Donbass and ask for help from the whole world, such as hooligans lose their eyesight.
            1. -1
              April 4 2020 19: 05
              call it what you want) but Ukraine has lost its territory) why should she fight with Poland) or Hungary) she would gladly join the EU or Poland, if they called)) The Russian Federation is also in no hurry to feed the extra 38 lyamas of mouth, when its obviously not enough)) or can you name two large countries that have declared war and are fighting right now? probably you won’t name, but they shoot and bomb, and people die.
              1. -4
                April 4 2020 19: 12
                That is, it is possible to surrender Lviv to Poland, Uzhhorod of Hungary and all the way without a fight, and it is better to Kiev, to immediately to the EU?
                feed the extra 38 lyama mouths
                , and where it doesn’t matter, otherwise
                since 14 years old) best friends
                and mouths are not fed. That's it.
                1. +5
                  April 4 2020 19: 15
                  Well, the reality so far is that))) not everyone wants in the Russian Federation, the example of the DPR and LPR showed that it was better not to live there, and so far they have nothing to offer, so the choice is obvious
                2. 0
                  April 4 2020 19: 16
                  Well, did they surrender Crimea to Russia? What is the difference to pass Transcarpathia, but not to Hungarians, but to Slovaks. When I was in Transcarpathia, I asked the old people when it was better to live, they spoke during Czechoslovakia, between the wars. wink
                  1. -1
                    April 4 2020 19: 22
                    they don’t take it)))) the same) you need to understand the difference) about Czechoslovakia I agree they lived well
                    1. -1
                      April 4 2020 19: 33
                      That is yes. Slovaks do not really want to take. And Hungarians in Transcarpathia are not very fond of, except for the Hungarians themselves, which are about 15 percent plus or minus. Russia, however, does not want to take the DPR and LPR, and hang out in an incomprehensible status. And in this status, it serves as an excellent anti-advertisement for the rest of the Eastern and Southern regions. The absolute majority does not dream of being citizens of all kinds of People's Republic of China and the like. wink
                      1. +1
                        April 4 2020 19: 47
                        in Donetsk, the apartment treshka cost 70 thousand green to the DNI, now 12000-15000) this is advertising and achievements, I have a third of the former residents of Lugansk and Donetsk in the LCD, everyone left completely. I am not a fan of the Maidan and the arrangement of Ukraine in recent years 10)) but a fact is a fact.
                        1. +3
                          April 5 2020 05: 07
                          Quote: Tonya
                          but fact is fact.

                          where is the fact ... current about LDNR listened to your sketch !! what Now let's talk about the magnificent life in Ukraine !!! wassat laughing and apparently, you know the answer to the most important question - the vast majority of the inhabitants are under the oppression of the ukronazists who came to power in 2014 or do they like the imposition of Nazi henchmen as heroes ??? wink
                        2. -2
                          April 5 2020 09: 25
                          these comrades in all elections won about 3 percent, the vast majority just do not care, the majority simply do not want to defend Soviet values, the rest slowly merge these Aryans, or drive them into controlled units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and others, and it’s like everyone else’s life gorgeous, some do not.
                        3. +4
                          April 5 2020 18: 04
                          Quote: Tonya
                          these comrades in all elections scored about 3 percent

                          and everything is clear with you !!! wink lolBy the way, how do your 3 percent manage to lead the country ??? what wassat
                        4. -2
                          April 5 2020 19: 16
                          the elder brothers from the Russian Federation actively help them in this policy, which is probably why they manage that the foreign policy of the Russian Federation is short-sighted, flaunted Ukraine, now Belarus is next in turn, probably all of this is from a great mind
                        5. +3
                          April 5 2020 19: 27
                          Quote: Tonya
                          the elder brothers from the Russian Federation actively help them in this policy, which is probably why they manage that the foreign policy of the Russian Federation is short-sighted, flaunted Ukraine, now Belarus is next in turn, probably all of this is from a great mind

                          what Ragulism and rushing out of you !!! wassat lol
                        6. -2
                          April 5 2020 20: 30
                          well, let it be so if it’s easier for you to have something along the perimeter at your border, one day you will understand that climbing a tree and throwing a feces is not the most far-sighted thought) good luck
                    2. -2
                      April 4 2020 19: 39
                      But you will offer them. They will. They’ll even be ready to take it to you, to make the task easier for you, but you don’t want to give it away. But say everything that no one wants to take them. wink It is only worth Donbass repeat the path of the Crimea and consider that in a couple of days Lviv, Kiev is already in Europe, in Poland. What prospects will immediately open! fellow How do you like the idea? Decide. The main thing is to ask well. Kind people will help.
                      1. +1
                        April 4 2020 19: 44
                        ))) your mockery touches, well, take away Donbass, don’t take it, Crimea was needed under the base, everything was quickly decided, and Donbass is a finger .. in Ukraine) they are interested in moving, and influencing internally. politics, I personally will be happy with any outcome of the events, but don’t take it, since people are not interesting to you, neither your brothers nor anyone else’s brothers))) Donbass can only repeat the path of Transnistria)) in general Maxim take everything, save everyone, you’re like that ask and wait))
                        1. -2
                          April 4 2020 20: 02
                          Quote: Tonya
                          In general, Maxim take everything, save everyone, they ask you and wait so))

                          Here LDNR will go to their borders, they will first choose the grassroots power, then the supreme .. Then they will hold a referendum .. and welcome.
                          No one took the Crimea, he beat himself .. saving himself from the new Ukraine ..
                          Remind me where recently the European court sent Ukraine with their question about the identity of Crimea ..?
                        2. 0
                          April 4 2020 20: 05
                          you don’t throw me agitation)))) The Transnistrian region where now) there will be LPR or DPR, we would like to include it already)) in 14 there was a chance, but now there is no economic advantage, there is no standard of living lures, the idea of ​​an eternal Pu will not take root.
                        3. -2
                          April 4 2020 20: 32
                          you do not throw me agitation)))) Transnistria where now) there will be LC or DNI

                          Where is Ukraine now? And where will it be after the sale of its land, as the IMF asks? It will not be anywhere.
                        4. -1
                          April 4 2020 21: 36
                          I have land)))) and I bought it for cash))) so if the agro holdings change owners)))) I will personally be on the side, except that the price will rise, but you forgive the Far Eastern hectare already received and sowed) or just sharpen your hair
                        5. -1
                          April 4 2020 21: 45
                          Where is Ukraine now? And where will it be after the sale of its land

                          And where is Russia, in which land is sold to foreigners without problems, and even no one stutters that this is bad or that it’s impossible to do so.
                        6. 0
                          April 4 2020 20: 23
                          Yes, please compare the average salaries in Mariupol and the DPR. And think, will the majority of Mariupol residents want to move to the DPR? If they start to go to "their" boundaries. fellow
                        7. 0
                          April 4 2020 20: 25
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Yes, please compare the average salaries in Mariupol and the DPR

                          An interesting approach .. maybe they compare the sn in Rostov and Krasnodar with Kiev ... not?
                        8. 0
                          April 4 2020 20: 34
                          And here I do not understand. People, all of them, want to live better, earn more, this is normal. Now salaries in LDNR are not amazing, and this is a fact. When they reach the level of Kiev, Rostov, Krasnodar, then you can talk about something. But now the average salary is ridiculous, living on it is very difficult. Therefore, the desire to move to LDNR is very diminished. What is incomprehensible here? belay
                        9. 0
                          April 4 2020 20: 36
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Therefore, the desire to move to LDNR is very diminished

                          I don’t understand .. have you already announced the line-up and transition plan?
                        10. -1
                          April 4 2020 20: 48
                          So you explained the plan in your comment:
                          "So the LDNR will reach their borders, they will elect first the grassroots power, then the supreme one .. Then they will hold a referendum .. and welcome." Or how? Now no one is going to go anywhere? belay
                        11. 0
                          April 4 2020 21: 08
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Now no one is going to go anywhere?

                          So who said that by military means? Sooner or later, Kiev will have to remove the troops ..
                        12. -1
                          April 4 2020 21: 26
                          Well, maybe it will. I don’t know, not Nostradamus. But if there are no competitive salaries in LDNR, why are you so sure that residents will vote the way you think? And why on earth would they be competitive if it is an unrecognized territory. Who will invest there?
                        13. -1
                          April 4 2020 21: 28
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          why are you so sure that the residents will vote as you think?

                          Ie in the 14th year they went to die for zp This maidan stood for lace panties .., and Donbass for his identity ..
                        14. -1
                          April 4 2020 21: 36
                          Dear dvina71. Please do not write loud slogans. At the heart of all the requirements and Maidan and Donbass - the economy. The rest is all superficial. Donbass cooperation with Russia, Maidan with the EU. And if the current incomes of the inhabitants of the DPR are small, then the rest will not rush headlong there.
                        15. +2
                          April 5 2020 05: 11
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          People, all of them, want to live better, earn more, this is normal.

                          it’s not normal that all this did not happen after the Hohlorevolution !! request
                        16. -2
                          April 5 2020 13: 40
                          What did not happen after hohlorevolyatsii? Is aspiration better to earn? And why did you get this belay
                        17. +1
                          April 5 2020 13: 13
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          When they reach the level of Kiev, Rostov, Krasnodar, then you can talk about something. But now the average salary is ridiculous, living on it is very difficult.

                          Actually, in the Donbass, they’re not fighting for salaries, but for the fact that Ukrainians will never forbid them to speak Russian again. And the more they demonstrate their hatred of the Kiev authorities, the less chance Ukrainians have for regaining their lost territories. What will happen next is still difficult to predict. But one thing is certain - Donbass will never be part of Ukraine and Svidomo, who still have brains able to think, already understood this. Well, those who do not understand, then those can be sent to the Donbass to be killed or maimed.
                        18. -2
                          April 5 2020 13: 36
                          I speak Russian, no one forbids me and no one kills me. Moreover, I was born in Nizhny Novgorod, my father is Russian, my mother is Ukrainian. Therefore, please, fewer slogans, dear CCSR. wink Regards, Red Dragon.
                        19. -1
                          April 5 2020 14: 16
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          I speak Russian, no one forbids me and no one kills me. Moreover, I was born in Nizhny Novgorod, my father is Russian, my mother is Ukrainian.

                          There are vile Russian people who, for the sake of Ukrainians, destroy those who don’t want to speak mov in the Donbas. By the way, how do you use the Russian language when contacting the state bodies of Ukraine?
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Therefore, please, fewer slogans,

                          What are the slogans - we see slogans in Ukraine, where they are fighting with Russia, but for some reason they will not cross the border and continue to buy raw materials from us.
                        20. -2
                          April 5 2020 14: 31
                          Respected. I am a citizen of Ukraine and when contacting government agencies I apply in Ukrainian. Or do you in Russia address government agencies not in Russian? Everyone in Ukraine learned Ukrainian, and I think it's not difficult to write a couple of pieces of paper a year. At work, correspondence is mainly in Russian, in everyday life I communicate in Russian and Ukrainian, depending on the interlocutor. Or do you think Russian people are stupid, unable to write several lines according to a pattern in a related language? By the way, the DPR and LPR adopted a law on the only state Russian language. Not logical. Here we shout that the rights of the Russian-speaking are "violated", but we ourselves will "violate" the rights of the Ukrainian-speaking. Our scout, their spy, nothing new. wink And please, take your head out of the TV, at least sometimes.
                        21. +1
                          April 5 2020 14: 58
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Or are you in Russia addressing government bodies not in Russian?

                          In Crimea, you can contact the authorities in three languages. In all national republics the same picture.

                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          At work, correspondence is mainly in Russian, in everyday life I communicate in both Russian and Ukrainian, depending on the person I am talking to.

                          This is your hypocrisy - you know that it is more convenient to communicate in Russian, but for the sake of Svidomo you doom yourself to please Ukraine.
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          By the way, the DPR and LPR adopted a law on the only state Russian language. Not logical.

                          After what the Ukrainian authorities did to them, killing people in the Donbass, this is not only logical, but fully justifies them.

                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          And please, take your head out of the TV, at least sometimes.

                          You see, Svidomo, I grew up in Ukraine, I studied the Ukrainian language for nine years at school and I know very well what Ukrainian nationalists are. So I understand perfectly why the Russian people will never want to live under their rule, no matter how much you would be in the nightingale.
                        22. -3
                          April 5 2020 16: 01
                          So what, for 9 years they could not master the Ukrainian language? What is the difficulty? And moreover, for the sake of Svidomo, I communicate in English when necessary. This is an English Svidomo, or what? wink
                        23. 0
                          April 5 2020 17: 52
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          So what, for 9 years they could not master the Ukrainian language?

                          Why couldn’t, I passed the exams “good” in the Ukrainian language and literature, but it was not useful to me even in Kiev, by and large.
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          And moreover, for the sake of Svidomo, I communicate in English when necessary. This is an English Svidomo, or what?

                          It painfully you stick out your Ukrainians-apparently your work is such, probably the curators require.
                        24. -2
                          April 5 2020 18: 09
                          Respected. I know three languages, by the way everything was excellent, both at school and at the institute. When I give you a simple example about talking in English and Svidomo, you write some nonsense, obviously wanting to offend me, talking about some kind of curators? Having no reason for this. Well then, you too remind me of the Prigogine troll. winked All the same, learn to speak not with slogans, but somehow build normal logical constructions.
                        25. -1
                          April 5 2020 18: 19
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          I know three languages, by the way everything was excellent, both at school and at the institute.

                          What does this prove in weapons matters?
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          When I give you a simple example about speaking in English

                          This is completely uninteresting to me, because not relevant to the discussion of tests. Your attempt to show that you understand something in this did not impress me.
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Well then, you too remind me of the Prigogine troll.

                          You, too, are not far from Smerdyakov.
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          All the same, learn to speak not with slogans, but somehow build normal logical constructions.

                          What is your logic when you asked me a question
                          So what, for 9 years they could not master the Ukrainian language?
                          if so far all the technical documentation for serious weapons in Russian in Ukraine?
                        26. -1
                          April 5 2020 18: 26
                          And here are the tests and curators. Where I showed you that I understand this. What are you talking about? Yes, the main documentation is in Russian, partially in Ukrainian, but not enough, you are right. Where did I deny it ???? You suggested that my curators serve me, that is, I am engaged in a business that is low in my opinion. Trying to insult a stranger. And you don’t even notice it. Are you normal? belay
                        27. -1
                          April 5 2020 18: 33
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Yes, the main documentation is in Russian, partially in Ukrainian, but not enough, you are right.

                          I’m better than you understand what was going on in the Ukrainian military-industrial complex all these years of independence, which is why I immediately said that this whole article is cheap PR, and it’s not clear what you are trying to convince me of.
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          You suggested that my curators serve me, that is, I am engaged in a business that is low from my point of view.

                          Of course, you are engaged in worthless business, telling tales of how everything is perfectly in Ukraine in matters of weapons. An intelligent person would be careful to make such statements so as not to be considered an amateur or an paid troll.
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Trying to insult a stranger. And you don’t even notice it.

                          I’m just not used to fumbling, and I express directly what I think of a person based on an analysis of his texts. And whether it offended you or not, it doesn’t play a role - the truth is more expensive.
                        28. -2
                          April 5 2020 18: 42
                          Dear, why do you think that you are better at understanding the issues of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex? I told you somewhere where I work and by whom? I discuss topics that interest me. And maybe I'm still related to this topic? An analysis of your texts for me shows the level of slogans and political information in the school, which in my early youth, as the chairman of the Council of the Detachment, I had to spend every Monday.
                        29. -1
                          April 5 2020 19: 03
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Dear, why do you think that you are better at understanding the issues of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex?

                          Because I knew well the Soviet military-industrial complex and inter-industry relations of industry, that’s why I know how things can be there after the collapse of the USSR.
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          And maybe I'm still related to this topic?

                          Then name at least one product of Ukrainian weapons that went through a full cycle from research to mass production and equipping them with APU - I’m just interested to know what kind of animal it is ....
                        30. -3
                          April 5 2020 19: 19
                          Unfortunately, here you are right. In fact, the creation of a new normal model of armament by the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is difficult to recall. The modernization of aircraft engines, helicopters, and other ATS is perhaps all that the modern Ukrainian military-industrial complex is capable of. But where did I write otherwise? What Ukraine will introduce super weapons tomorrow? wink
                        31. 0
                          April 6 2020 11: 26
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Unfortunately, here you are right. In fact, the creation of a new normal model of armament by the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is difficult to recall.

                          So why then are you spreading lies about the successes of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex?
                          And at the same time you have the audacity to call me a liar, a pathetic ignoramus:
                          You are just a liar, respected CCSR.

                          And who is the liar here then?
                        32. -3
                          April 6 2020 15: 55
                          I already wrote to you. LET ME MY POSTS WHERE I WRITE ABOUT SUCCESSES OF THE Ukrainian military-industrial complex. You can understand the meaning of the words. MY POST. I kind of write in Russian. I did not write about the grandiose successes of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex, which is not clear. If you don’t bring, then you are still a liar. wink
                        33. -2
                          April 7 2020 19: 49
                          Strange, no answer. belay Usually you were rude with such passion and carried all nonsense, and when you caught a lie, you shut up. Is it possible, if someday, we cross each other, in the comments I will contact you not CCSR, but Mr. LIAR? wink
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                        35. -2
                          April 7 2020 20: 17
                          You're lying. I have never written anywhere that I am proud of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. You LIE again. At least sometimes, tell the truth. It will become easier, you may be rude to be rude. wink
                        36. -1
                          April 7 2020 20: 47
                          Pinocchio got a nose out of lies, remember? wink You may ask, are you normally entering the door? And then, because you from your constant lies, it may already be hard to walk the streets. God forbid, stumble upon something. Watch out, take care wink
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                        40. +3
                          April 6 2020 01: 32
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          that everything is fine in Ukraine in arms matters?

                          what in Ukraine, at least in some matter, is something fine ?? !!! wassat laughing
                        41. 0
                          April 4 2020 21: 05
                          The average in Rostov is not very different from the average in the Ukrainian part of Donetsk
                        42. -1
                          April 4 2020 21: 21
                          Quote: Avior
                          The average in Rostov is not very different from the average in the Ukrainian part of Donetsk

                          Yes, I know .. on the Ukrainian Internet everything is the same as in Russia, only a little worse .. Today I was trying to convince one subject that there are more programmers in Odessa than in Russia .. so it says on the sovereign Internet ..
                        43. -1
                          April 4 2020 21: 22
                          How do you compare where you get salary data from?
                        44. 0
                          April 4 2020 21: 26
                          Quote: Avior
                          How do you compare where you get salary data from?

                          I do not compare. There is no need for this .. from high Ukrainian zp .. Ukrainians for some reason for the same, or even lower, zp go to Russia ..
                          But the citizens of Russia for some reason from their low pay are not willing to go abroad to work ..
                        45. -1
                          April 4 2020 21: 40
                          And what do programmers go to you? Programmers work for American, Canadian, Australian firms. Receive from 1000 dollars and above. It is not uncommon for a salary to be more than three thousand dollars. Why should they go to you? winked programmers specifically?
                        46. -1
                          April 4 2020 22: 23
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Receive from 1000 dollars and above.

                          A programmer .. it is a programmer .. in Russia for such an offer will send you far and demanding .. At the moment ..60-70tysch is the minimum wage that a highly skilled worker will agree to. That would completely close the question of average salaries. In 2019, 1.8 million new cars were sold in Russia. In Ukraine, 80 thousand. Actually, this is all you need to know about the difference in average salaries in our countries.
                        47. 0
                          April 4 2020 22: 32
                          Programmers are different. I wrote from 1000. And to very decent values ​​it is 4-5 thousand bucks. Maybe higher, I'm talking about those whom I know personally. I repeat the question, why should programmers come to you if he gets 5 thousand bucks here. Working online and getting money is also online. You can go to the United States or Germany, there may be 10 thousand, but there the costs are much higher. And to the programmer in Russia. What for? winked
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                        49. +2
                          April 5 2020 05: 15
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          And what do programmers go to you?

                          why are they here ??? Do you think in Russia with programmers a complete seam ??? what you, by chance, do not live the myth of the balalaika and the bear ?? !!! wassat lol
                        50. -2
                          April 5 2020 07: 43
                          And where am I with the myths of the balalaika and the bear? belay This user dvina71 for some reason doubts that in Odessa programmers may have normal salaries. So I ask where he saw in Russia a crowd of programmers from Ukraine. And why should they go to Russia even in theory? winked And with balalaikas and bears, I think that Russia is in full order. laughing
                        51. +4
                          April 5 2020 18: 00
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          This user dvina71 for some reason doubts that in Odessa programmers may have normal salaries.

                          in fact, programmers, compared to the rest of the cp, are higher ... I think VNA is no exception ... they have a large one in their understandable and in a relative sense !!! wink wassat
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          So I ask where he saw in Russia a crowd of programmers from Ukraine.

                          maybe they are here, but not in droves - if they are only paid less than ours ... and in terms of their programmers, Russia is far from in last place !!! request
                        52. -2
                          April 6 2020 19: 23
                          Respected. I did not write that in Russia there are problems with programmers. I wrote that in Ukraine a good programmer gets decent money and there’s no point in going to Russia for him. User Dvina71 for some reason doubted it. What are you trying to prove to me, dear, I don’t understand? belay
                        53. -3
                          April 4 2020 23: 59
                          Today, one subject tried to convince me that the sn programmer in Odessa is more than in Russia .. so he has written on the sovereign Internet ..

                          And by the way, the way it is. In Odessa, now on average more than in St. Petersburg. I’m telling you as a programmer if that.
                        54. +2
                          April 5 2020 05: 16
                          Quote: alexmach
                          Today, one subject tried to convince me that the sn programmer in Odessa is more than in Russia .. so he has written on the sovereign Internet ..

                          And by the way, the way it is. In Odessa, now on average more than in St. Petersburg. I’m telling you as a programmer if that.

                          Baltic programmer - this is serious !!! lol wassat
                        55. -1
                          April 5 2020 12: 12
                          Baltic programmer - this is serious !!! lol wassat

                          More serious than a formal Troll and boor.
                        56. +2
                          April 5 2020 18: 36
                          Quote: alexmach
                          Baltic programmer - this is serious !!! lol wassat

                          More serious than a formal Troll and boor.

                          what Baltic programmer who has more salaries in Odessa than in St. Petersburg - this is a boorish troll !!! wassat lol
                        57. 0
                          April 5 2020 18: 37
                          If facts do not fit into your picture of the world all the worse for the facts?
                        58. +2
                          April 5 2020 18: 48
                          Quote: alexmach
                          If facts do not fit into your picture of the world all the worse for the facts?

                          it is not surprising that you are defending Ukraine ... there black turned white and that is their fact !!! wassat laughing
                        59. 0
                          April 5 2020 18: 52
                          that you are defending Ukraine.

                          Where? Where I defend it (spelling of the source saved)
                        60. +2
                          April 5 2020 05: 08
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Yes, please compare the average salaries in Mariupol and the DPR. And think, will the majority of Mariupol residents want to move to the DPR? If they start to go to "their" boundaries.

                          compare ... have you been in there and there for a long time ??? winkgas in Mariupol how much ??? !!! wassat and the survey was conducted, is the Mariupol live comfortably with the current hohlorezhim ?? !!! wassat
                        61. -2
                          April 5 2020 07: 58
                          I was in Mariupol a year ago. I live 150 km from the Donetsk region. I was in Donetsk 7 years ago. But there are many acquaintances who came from Donetsk and are now living in my city, under the modern hokhlorezhim, as you, dear Nikolai the Greek, write. Yes, gas in Mariupol is more expensive. But if small salaries and pensions are issued, utility subsidies are issued. I did not notice the crowd of sufferers in the DPR. There is no enthusiasm for the modern Ukrainian government. But they also do not want to switch to an average salary, almost three times less, as in the DPR. But you still won't believe me. In Russia, everyone knows better what is happening in Ukraine. Vaughn "Evening M", in the words of Boris Grebenshchikov, will not let you lie. In vain do they crucify themselves every day on TV? winked
                        62. +2
                          April 5 2020 18: 03
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          I was in Mariupol a year ago. I live 150 km from the Donetsk region. I was in Donetsk 7 years ago. But there are many acquaintances who came from Donetsk and are now living in my city, under the modern hokhlorezhim, as you, dear Nikolai the Greek, write. Yes, gas in Mariupol is more expensive. But if small salaries and pensions are issued, utility subsidies are issued. I did not notice the crowd of sufferers in the DPR. There is no enthusiasm for the modern Ukrainian government. But they also do not want to switch to an average salary, almost three times less, as in the DPR. But you still won't believe me. In Russia, everyone knows better what is happening in Ukraine. Vaughn "Evening M", in the words of Boris Grebenshchikov, will not let you lie. In vain do they crucify themselves every day on TV? winked

                          u with you it is understandable ... the next hutskraynik gently defending nFFFFFchemniFfinuyu sacrifice Ukraine, where there is no hohlonatsizma !!! wassat
                        63. -2
                          April 6 2020 19: 51
                          Respected. Why do you understand everything, do you even know about Ukraine? You live there, often winked In which city tell us where the hohlonists tortured you and why were you released alive? Just wondering wink
                        64. -2
                          April 6 2020 19: 59
                          I think I answered your questions when I was in Mariupol, when in Donetsk I answered about gas prices. You simply write on no basis based conclusions that the next hatskraynik and other nonsense. Maybe somehow argue your position so that your post does not seem like a set of unrelated words. Regards, Red Dragon. wink
                        65. 0
                          April 6 2020 20: 37
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Why do you understand everything, do you even know about Ukraine?

                          patamushta official ideology and official authority in Ukraine proclaimed the Nazis and war criminals their heroes !! wink only LDNR opposes this ... you and most of the inhabitants of VNA like that justify it to you ... including here ... and you don’t notice it yourself !!! negative this is enough for a normal person to understand the situation !!! wassat
                        66. -2
                          April 6 2020 20: 42
                          Clear. I have no more questions. Why then did they generally ask about Mariupol, about gas, and something else? Everything is clear to you. What is the meaning of these questions in general? Nothing to do in quarantine? wink Then good luck, I no longer see the point of communicating with you, all you need is enough to understand the situation. be healthy winked
                        67. -1
                          April 5 2020 09: 42
                          Quote: dvina71
                          Here LDNR will go to their borders,

                          ... yeah, right after Lyashko returns the purity and virginity to his ass laughing !
                      2. -3
                        April 4 2020 19: 52
                        Yes, Russia took the Crimea. And she don’t really need Donbass. What for? It is beautiful in Crimea, the resort has a warm territory and a navy base. And what about Donbass? Coal in kilometer mines and ecology killed in many places? So, Russia does not need coal, there is Kuzbass, it is much cheaper to mine there, many mines were closed on the Russian territory of Donbass. Therefore, hang out in an incomprehensible status. And people will crumble, tea is not the first time. wink
                        1. -5
                          April 4 2020 20: 00
                          And she don’t really need Donbass. What for?

                          Don’t talk nonsense. Donetsk is the future capital of reformatted Ukraine. Everything is yet to come.
                        2. -1
                          April 4 2020 20: 07
                          Very interesting. And why did you decide that? And why is the capital of Ukraine only, and not the intergalactic association Alpha Centauri? Because you so wanted? winked I also have many wishes, but not all are fulfilled, unfortunately. And the facts about the cost of apartments were brought to you by the respected comrade "Tonya", especially no one wants to live in the future capital, everyone is trying to dump somewhere. fool These are the pies.
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                        4. -1
                          April 4 2020 20: 31
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Yes, Russia took the Crimea.

                          I didn’t pick it up .. I accepted it. This is a very different approach.
                        5. -1
                          April 4 2020 20: 38
                          Took part, took, this is a matter of wording. Why didn’t you accept Donbass, explain if you don’t agree with my explanation above? belay
                        6. -4
                          April 4 2020 20: 49
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Why didn’t you accept Donbass, explain if you don’t agree with my explanation above?

                          Yes shozh is .. again?
                          In short .. based on the results of the hydanny revolution, Crimea became a subject and took advantage of this opportunity, became an object within the Russian Federation.
                          Donbass did not become a subject. To do this, go through the procedure. The first one has already been done, the referendum has been held, the decision has been made and defended with arms.
                          Next, we need to hold elections. But elections must be held throughout the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, yet they participated in the referendum.
                          So .. while the fat dries, the dead dies .. and the troops from the Donbass Kiev will have to remove. Then everything will be.
                        7. -1
                          April 4 2020 21: 02
                          Why didn't Donbass become a "subject"? If they wanted to, they brought in troops as in the Crimea, and would become exactly the same "subject". Maybe they just didn't want to make him a "subject"? I repeat, in the Crimea, the sun and the base of the Navy, and in the Donbass there are deep mines and in many places ditched ecology. That's the whole difference. what
                        8. -4
                          April 4 2020 21: 06
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Why didn't Donbass become a "subject"?

                          Well, direct kindergarten .. Who made the decision on the referendum in the Crimea? The Supreme Council of Crimea, elected before the revolution .. That is, a legitimate electoral authority. This is what makes Crimea a subject.
                          In Donetsk and Lugansk, the representatives of the people quit right after the February events. A territory without power cannot be a subject.
                        9. -1
                          April 4 2020 21: 20
                          Well, they would have gathered the deputies of the Regional Council of Donetsk and Lugansk and would also have voted. Who cares? Permission to send troops to Ukraine was obtained; they would organize the same referendum without noise and dust if they wanted to. But they didn’t want to. Donbass of Russia is not needed; that’s all, for the reasons mentioned above. winked
                        10. -3
                          April 4 2020 21: 30
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Well, they would have gathered the deputies of the Regional Council of Donetsk and Lugansk and would also have voted. Who cares?

                          Well, they couldn’t .. they dumped far .. only a few remained .. History has no subjunctive mood .. In Crimea, the armed forces remained in place ..
                        11. -1
                          April 4 2020 21: 45
                          All the same, they did not want to. If you would, we could. In Crimea, they just wanted to assemble and assembled. laughing
                        12. 0
                          April 5 2020 10: 04
                          Quote: dvina71
                          I didn’t pick it up .. I accepted it. This is a very different approach.

                          If the gopnik takes your wallet on the street, then do not rush to contact the police. He did not pick it up, but simply accepted it into his ... pocket. This is a different approach good .
                        13. 0
                          April 5 2020 10: 00
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Yes, Russia took the Crimea.

                          And how she took it ... In violation of her own promise to preserve the territorial integrity of Ukraine. But Ukraine voluntarily gave her nuclear weapons for it. And how did you need to psychologically treat your citizens so that they were proud that their country acted so cynically and treacherously ? And indeed they are really proud, they say, what good fellows we are, have deceived these ... naive Selyukov. And nuclear weapons have taken away, and the territory. What good fellows are we. And at the same time they nod to the decline of morals in Ukraine.
                        14. +1
                          April 5 2020 13: 19
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          So the coal of Russia

                          We cherish the Russian people living in the Donbass, that’s why we send humanitarian aid there constantly so that they can withstand the war with Svidomo. Such people will be useful to us in Russia - they have proved by their deeds that they are real Russian people, and not Svidomo beggars.
                        15. -3
                          April 5 2020 14: 08
                          Be dear. Well done. People live on the territory of the "people's republics" that is not even recognized by Russia, who are leaving wherever they can, some to Russia, some to Ukraine. Helpers are such helpers. By the way, are you sure that all your humanitarian aid reaches ordinary people? Instead of settling in the pockets of the giants of thought, deserved MMM-kov Pushilin and his merry associates. Why are you sure that Pushilin forgot his skills in MMM, and suddenly became crystal-clear? wink
                        16. +3
                          April 5 2020 14: 50
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Cherish Well done.

                          We are trying, as Putin said, we are not abandoning our own.
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          And it doesn’t settle in the pockets of giants of thought, the honored MMMs of Pushilin and his cheerful associates.

                          Do you regret that you personally do not fall?
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Why are you sure that Pushilin forgot his job skills at MMM and suddenly became crystal honest?

                          I am sure that the inhabitants of Donbass themselves, without the participation of the Ukrainian authorities, will figure out who to trust them. As far as I know, even if they are dissatisfied with their power, they simply hate the Ukrainian power, and they won’t be asked for anything back.
                        17. -2
                          April 5 2020 14: 56
                          But I know some residents of Donetsk personally, who are very dissatisfied with the current state of affairs in the DPR and who had to move to our city. How to be with them for example? And I do not envy Pushilin. Why envy people with a tarnished reputation? Or do you think everyone wants to be crooks? Regards, Red Dragon.
                        18. +2
                          April 5 2020 17: 41
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          How to be with them for example?

                          Everyone decides for himself how it was in the Crimea in the elections - this is a matter of his conscience.
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          And I do not envy Pushilin.

                          And I do not envy the inhabitants of Donbass - they have to suffer for the fact that the Ukrainian nationalists decided to destroy them.
                          Quote: Red Dragon
                          Do you think everyone wants to be crooks?

                          Ask this question to Yatsenyuk - where is the wall on the border?
                        19. -2
                          April 5 2020 17: 48
                          Dear, it was you who suggested that I envy Pushilin, regretting that I don’t get humanitarian aid. This assumption is YOUR, not mine. I answered you, I do not envy the crooks. You will not deny that the participants in the MMM are crooks? And here is Yatsenyuk and the wall, where I said that I envy Yatsenyuk, do you even read your own comments? belay
    12. +2
      April 4 2020 19: 08
      Ukrainians, like us, are also leaving for the Soviet backlog, tests have shown that they created RCC, personnel, backlog and technology of the USSR once again and then showed that in the 90s we turned off a straight path onto a curved track.

      It is unpleasant every time to read any nonsense that has nothing to do purely in the military-technical issue.
      For all the jingoistic patriots screaming under the Vlasov banners, sorry did not want to offend the poor, but YOU did nothing to call the Su-27 "Soviet-Russian". The Su-27 is a SOVIET fighter, as well as its development and reincarnation, due to the fact that the chain from the beginning of research, design, prototypes, etc. these are DECADES, there is nothing purely Russian now, there is only Soviet, and only what is left of the USSR. And on the MiG-29 and on the Su-27, the jingoistic patriots under the Vlasov banners have as many rights as the schizoids under the zhovto-blakit ones. All this was created by ONE country.
      By the way, it is very symbolic that the grave of our traitor is covered with a Vlasov rag ...
      1. -4
        April 4 2020 19: 31
        Ukrainians, just like we still travel to the Soviet reserve

        Of course, especially the Soviet legacy of Yars, S-400, Su-57, X-101, X-50, Dagger, Zircon, T-14, T-15,
        Boomerang, Poseidon, Borey, Ash, X-59MK2, Nudol, S-500, Iskander-M, S-350 and more.
        For all the jingoistic patriots screaming under the Vlasov banners

        Why is the current Tricolor, which has become a symbol of the state under Peter the Great, someone trying to call Vlasov? With the same success, this flag can be called, not from a great mind, of course, the flag of Uncle Viti and any other person who has enough imagination.
        Su-27 is a SOVIET fighter, like its development and reincarnation, due to the fact that the chain from the beginning of research, design, prototypes, etc. it's the DECADES

        Yes, yes, yes. And the Su-35S, Su-30SM are also Soviet. Yes and the Su-57 are also a Soviet fighter. To lie like that. And the fact that they are designed and manufactured in the RSFSR and the Russian Federation doesn’t mean anything of course. Everything is Soviet, well, that’s common , well, that is, Ukrainian, including, ..not purely Ukrainian.
        And on the MiG-29 and on the Su-27, the Ura-patriots under the Vlasov banners have as many rights as the schizoid under the yellowish-black.

        Well. What did I say above?
        1. +2
          April 4 2020 19: 50
          Peter is generally a foreign agent)))))))))) according to the present)
          1. -4
            April 4 2020 20: 04
            Peter The first prototype of the first scout. He penetrated the lair of the enemies, obtained information, technologies and introduced innovations into the foundation of the construction of New Russia, built a fleet, defeated the Swedes, so that was all through. wink Yes
            1. -1
              April 4 2020 20: 32
              Quote: Sky Strike fighter
              Swedes broke

              It is necessary to clarify .. the Swedes broke the galley fleet .. that is, his European tour has nothing to do with it ..
      2. 0
        April 4 2020 20: 04
        Quote: Sarkazm
        Ukrainians, just like we still travel to the Soviet reserve

        What can you say about the battleships of the RKKF in the light of such a topic?
        1. -3
          April 4 2020 20: 07
          He will say that their projects are based on drawings of ships of ancient ukrov. It's obvious.
      3. -2
        April 4 2020 22: 42
        Quote: Sarkazm
        And on the MiG-29 and on the Su-27, the Ura-patriots under the Vlasov banners have as many rights as the schizoid under the yellowish-black. All this was created by ONE country.

        Well said.
        And most importantly the truth.
        Shards of the Great Country puffed up on the Soviet backlog. But in every possible way, appropriating it completely to himself and denying this right to his neighbor.
        They share everything that does not belong, from Victory to a small detail ...
    13. -5
      April 4 2020 19: 13
      Usually, their success in the field of rocket technology, at least confirm with a video. You can write, Neptune hit the satellite at a distance of 750 km, while while the rocket got to the target it knocked out another 3 satellites laughing wink laughing
      1. +2
        April 4 2020 21: 47
        , at least confirm with a video

        With animation studios in Ukraine, too strained wink
        1. 0
          April 5 2020 10: 08
          Quote: Bshkaus
          With animation studios in Ukraine, too strained

          ... unlike the Russian Federation.
    14. -1
      April 4 2020 19: 58
      RCC "Neptune", he is a girl X-35:

      The development of the anti-ship missile system “Uranus” with the X-35 cruise missile for arming boats and medium displacement ships was started in accordance with the Resolution of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the Council of Ministers of the USSR and the Central Committee of the CPSU of April 16, 1984 (according to other sources, the decision was issued on March 16, 1983 ) OKB Zvezda (currently part of the Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation) was identified as the head developer, and as chief designer G.I. Ukrainians. The development of the launcher was carried out by KBM in Moscow.


      Ukrainians laughing
      The surname of the chief designer is hoh-lov, but you see obscene, since it cannot be written normally))))
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      2. -3
        April 4 2020 21: 07
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        The surname of the chief designer is hoh-lov, but you see obscene, since it cannot be written normally))))

        No, no ... Hohlov - a former chief designer, in the sense of a coach, Dynamo, only he was promoted last fall winked That is, they fired
      3. -2
        April 4 2020 22: 45
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        RCC "Neptune", he / she is a girl X-35:

        Developers in Ukraine have not hidden the origin for a long time. And why is chosen.
        And honestly admitted to the main task (GOS)
    15. -3
      April 4 2020 20: 26
      There is such a thing on planet Earth - the "Black Sea". It is extremely rich in various resources. For example, Russia is there, next to the Crimea - producing gas. And Ukraine is producing "for ... fig" wink And when Ukraine's "nafig" ends, this country builds some kind of pribluda, it happens in different ways. Sometimes, for example, he wanders on the scows to see if the Crimean bridge has any surplus "what for" ... Usually he gets it. "Nafig" rushes from the coast of the peninsula ... "Nafig" are shipped from the coast guard patrolmen of the Russian border troops ... But the highest quality and weighty nafig flies from the ships of the Black Sea Fleet
      1. -2
        April 5 2020 08: 21
        Quote: Cowbra
        For example, Russia is there, near the Crimea - it produces gas

        For example, in the Ukrainian economic zone. Arrogantly so (there even if you take into account the Crimea, they still mine in Ukrainian)
        Odessa field.
        But who is stronger is right. For this, they do not even announce sanctions. There can be conflicts constantly.
        1. +1
          April 5 2020 13: 25
          Quote: Σελήνη
          But who is stronger is right.

          As it turned out, Romania turned out to be stronger than Ukraine, and squeezed out territorial waters:
          On September 16, 2004, Romania filed a memorandum with the UN International Court of Justice regarding the delimitation of the continental shelf in the area. On February 3, 2009, the International Court of Justice at The Hague unanimously adopted a compromise decision on the maritime border between the countries. The court recognized Snake Island as what Kiev insisted on (the Romanian side claimed that it was nothing more than a large rock). On the other hand, the court did not recognize Ukraine’s claims that the location of the island significantly affects the maritime border between the countries, and, according to Romanian representatives, they remained “80% satisfied” in their territorial claims. As a result, Snake remained in the status of Ukrainian territory, and the court itself drew the sea border between the two states, with which both Kiev and Bucharest agreed [16] [17].
          Of the total shelf area of ​​12 thousand square kilometers, Romania received 9700 square kilometers (79,34% of the territory)[18].
      2. -1
        April 5 2020 10: 11
        Quote: Cowbra
        There is such a thing on planet Earth - the "Black Sea". It is extremely rich in various resources. For example, Russia is there, next to the Crimea - producing gas. And Ukraine is producing "for ... fig"

        Yeah, the Russian Federation produces gas ... on the Ukrainian shelf and using drilling platforms captured from Ukraine good .
    16. 0
      April 4 2020 21: 25
      Quote: Dead Day
      will you demand our life in return ...?

      This is a deep stage of insanity or moonshine hit a pumpkin?
    17. +2
      April 4 2020 21: 31
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      For all the jingoistic patriots screaming under the Vlasov banners

      Why is the current Tricolor, which has become a symbol of the state under Peter the Great, someone trying to call Vlasov?

      Because these people are frankly insane. And the one you answer is a banal paid bot, a representative of one of the oldest professions. He doesn’t care who he’s lying under ... i.e. what to write.
    18. -1
      April 4 2020 21: 40
      According to the developers, during the test, a missile with an inert warhead successfully hit a floating target at a distance of 75 km.

      for some reason, the article does not say that three missile launches were made, and all three successfully hit the target.

      No matter how they blame and mock Ukrainian industry, they created a fully operational rocket. Although not very modern, but still. A wake-up call for us
      1. 0
        April 4 2020 21: 53
        As I understand it, before that they shot at stationary
        Verified range 285 km
        1. -2
          April 4 2020 22: 02
          Quote: Avior
          Verified range 285 km

          And along the road, the dead with braids stand ... And silence ...:
          https://naukatehnika.com/ispyitaniya-raket-olxa-m-raketyi-neptun.html
          maximum launch range - 280 km

          A year ago - on April 5, 2019, the first prototype of the Neptune cruise missile (in the R-360A version) successfully completed the flight mission during the tests - “having flown more than 100 km in the sea direction, made a 180-degree turn, and on the way back definitely hit the target. " This time, the range, accuracy and technical characteristics of the Neptune missiles and their ground-based complex RK-360 MC were checked. It is reported that during the test of cruise missiles, a check was carried out on the range and accuracy of the destruction of naval targets. Surface targets were hit at a distance of about 100 km.
          1. 0
            April 4 2020 22: 34
            Range tests were in 2018
            1. -2
              April 4 2020 23: 01
              Quote: Avior
              Range tests were in 2018

              Quote: Cowbra
              One year ago - April 5, 2019 first prototype cruise missile "Neptune"


              ... and fables
              1. -1
                April 4 2020 23: 13
                https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Нептун_(крылатая_ракета)

                https://topwar.ru/150862-proekt-neptun-ukraina-raketa-novaja-problemy-starye.html
              2. -2
                April 4 2020 23: 52
                Quote: Cowbra
                Quote: Cowbra
                A year ago - April 5, 2019, the first prototype of the Neptune cruise missile

                December 5, 2018 - test launch, verification of missile range, control and accuracy of guidance. Destroyed target at a distance of 280 km
        2. -2
          April 4 2020 23: 35
          Quote: Avior
          As I understand it, before that they shot at stationary

          There was a case. But in this test (April 2 for a real target), three missiles were fired. This was stated by Oleg Korostelev, chief designer of the Luch State Design Bureau
          1. +2
            April 4 2020 23: 42
            Judging by the latest tests, it’s about production and adoption
            The presence of a rocket even a mosquito fleet in Ukraine and coastal complexes of RCC will lead to the need to keep certain fleet forces in the Black Sea and will bind the freedom to use the Black Sea Fleet, as I understand it
      2. 0
        April 5 2020 02: 00
        Listen, well enough already, by golly! And the missiles of the NATO countries do not bother you, no? Only the Ukrainian ringing is alarming and menacing! Stop pouring balm on the souls of ukrov, they are dying with happiness. Let them do what they want to strengthen their forces is it their personal affair, is it something for us? You think they’ll climb up like that, they’ll need to be afraid of these big ones, there are more terrible and dangerous enemies. Not well, because of malice towards Russia they are the first, so God didn’t give the cheerful cow the horns, here they are actively growing these horns in order to break them again.
        1. -2
          April 5 2020 11: 10
          Quote: Buhach
          No, well, out of spite for Russia, they are the first

          So you yourself answered your own question. The appearance of a completely modern weapon in the hands of a very unfriendly (and if directly - then openly hostile) state, which is in the most immediate proximity of borders, in the hands of not always and not quite adequate people ... Maybe a shot. As if by chance
          Moreover, Neptune is able to hit not only sea, but also ground targets.
          It can be put on boats, they already have a coastal complex, a rocket can be hung under the plane (not only a fighter, but also a patrol one, for example, An-26, when installing the appropriate equipment)

          In any case, the potential threat must be taken seriously into account, which will make it necessary to attract additional forces to the Black Sea Fleet.
    19. +1
      April 5 2020 07: 04
      If I understood correctly, without a homing head with an inert warhead, this is what’s called fired and then, as God puts it, the matter of chance will fall, or vice versa, by. It's like throwing a stone in a big way, and there it will turn out. In this case, evidence in the studio, otherwise I can also lie seven miles to heaven and everything is forest. .
      1. -3
        April 5 2020 08: 24
        Quote: Ros 56
        If I understand correctly, without a homing head with an inert warhead

        read the article carefully.
    20. +2
      April 5 2020 07: 07

      THE INVASION OF AN INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALS ON THE PUBLICATION I SEE ....
      1. +2
        April 5 2020 15: 26
        Yeah, they’ve hardened everyone here)
    21. 0
      April 7 2020 20: 06
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      Ukrainians, just like we still travel to the Soviet reserve

      Of course, especially the Soviet legacy of Yars, S-400, Su-57, X-101, X-50, Dagger, Zircon, T-14, T-15,
      Boomerang, Poseidon, Borey, Ash, X-59MK2, Nudol, S-500, Iskander-M, S-350 and more.
      For all the jingoistic patriots screaming under the Vlasov banners

      Why is the current Tricolor, which has become a symbol of the state under Peter the Great, someone trying to call Vlasov? With the same success, this flag can be called, not from a great mind, of course, the flag of Uncle Viti and any other person who has enough imagination.
      Su-27 is a SOVIET fighter, like its development and reincarnation, due to the fact that the chain from the beginning of research, design, prototypes, etc. it's the DECADES

      Yes, yes, yes. And the Su-35S, Su-30SM are also Soviet. Yes and the Su-57 are also a Soviet fighter. To lie like that. And the fact that they are designed and manufactured in the RSFSR and the Russian Federation doesn’t mean anything of course. Everything is Soviet, well, that’s common , well, that is, Ukrainian, including, ..not purely Ukrainian.
      And on the MiG-29 and on the Su-27, the Ura-patriots under the Vlasov banners have as many rights as the schizoid under the yellowish-black.

      Well. What did I say above?

      AND? At least read when they started working not only on the S-400, but also on the S-500 ... T-14 Armata - read the history of Soviet tank building, but it’s stupid if you are lazy to run through the materials here, don’t consider it work!
      And then you read, so there was such a country ZERO, PURE SHEET, EBF appeared, GDP peeped and hatched behind it, and in this country ZERO, Suddenly, developments sprang from the cornucopia, WITHOUT SCHOOL, WITHOUT WORK, WITHOUT CONTINUITY.

      "Dagger", if not for the bear America and ebno, would be, sorry, hz. when, these developments are called - take daddy, blow off the dust and do it, and sometimes there are problems with the latter.
      There is nothing to carry about fairy tales about the RUSSIAN or the RSFSR, and half of the scientists in the same Ukrainian SSR were Russians, and we had Ukrainians, the remaining half were understandably Jews ... then there was internationalism, and not squalor in the form of slaves pouring slops, brother brother at the behest of gentlemen ... It is disgusting to continue, and frankly the neodaragierassians are already tired of them - they cannot write an infection without mistakes, but they "created" Daggers and T-14 ...

      Regarding the flag of the Russian Empire and the Vlasov tricolor ... - to school.

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