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Who and why from the regions of the Russian Federation leads and lags behind in economic development: examples

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Russia is a huge country and it is natural that its regions are very different from each other in all indicators and parameters - from climatic conditions and demography to the level of economic development. There are leading regions and outsider regions, but not in all cases only a geographical location or история development is the reason.


Scientists-economists offer a variety of classification models for Russian regions. So, N.V. Zubarevich believes that the typology of regions should be evaluated on the basis of two main criteria - the level of economic development, the economic situation of households, and the development of the territory. The first criterion is determined, first of all, on the basis of the real economic situation of the inhabitants of the region, and the second - on the basis of population density. In accordance with this classification, the regions are distinguished - leaders, developed regions, "middle peasants" and outsiders.

It is clear that the most economically developed region, with the highest population density, is Moscow. This is a distinctive feature of the modern Russian state, its economic system - a huge gap between the standard of living of the population in the capital and in many other regions of the country. Even such recognized economic, scientific, and cultural centers as St. Petersburg, Novosibirsk, Nizhny Novgorod, Kazan, Yekaterinburg, Saratov, Rostov-on-Don are significantly behind Moscow.

All financial flows are accumulated in the capital, the entire political leadership of the country is located, the head offices of almost all large companies, and the management of most of the media is concentrated. Therefore, speaking about the economy of the Russian regions, the standard of living of the population, it makes sense to compare the subjects of the Russian Federation with the exception of Moscow.


The unequivocal economic leader among the regions - Moscow

In October 2019, the Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation compiled a list of regions - leaders and outsiders. The regions where the economy will grow very slowly included Perm Territory, Chelyabinsk Region, Khabarovsk Territory, Udmurtia, Buryatia, Kursk Region, Vladimir Region, Krasnoyarsk Territory, Kostroma Region, Komi Republic, Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Area. The Sakhalin Oblast was the least fortunate - here the economy will shrink by 3,1%, and within five years - by 14,6%. This is due to reduced production in the island’s oil and gas industry.

Interestingly, the department assigned the Chukotka Autonomous Okrug, Irkutsk, Amur, Magadan Oblasts, Moscow Oblast, Ulyanovsk Oblast, Yakutia, Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, Yaroslavl Oblast, Adygea, Sverdlovsk and Novosibirsk Regions to regions with expected growth.
Economic growth in these regions will result from the implementation of investment projects in the areas of oil and coal, gold, diamonds, processing of extracted raw materials, mechanical engineering, pharmaceuticals, chemical production, as well as in construction and trade.

But indicators of economic growth are one thing, and the real standard of living of the population is quite another. If we talk about it, then it is advisable to divide between large cities of federal significance, which are not many, regional centers, other settlements, the standard of living in which ranges from relatively acceptable to extremely low. Is it possible to call economically developed regions where, with the exception of regional centers, the population lives extremely modestly or is it forced to seek financial prosperity in more prosperous cities and federal subjects?

If we talk about indicators such as the development of complex services, to which economists include the high-tech sector, financial activity, then only Moscow, the Moscow region and St. Petersburg are unequivocally leaders, as well as Nizhny Novgorod and The Novosibirsk region, as well as the Tyumen region, in which the development of these sectors is determined by the need for servicing the oil industry. In many regions, the economy depends primarily on transfers from the federal budget.


Social polarization is especially visible when comparing Moscow and the regions

In the northern and remote regions, it is practically impossible to diversify the economy, at least at this stage. Therefore, those where there are well-developed extractive industries or industries that exploit natural resources and geographical location can feel relatively good only because of the availability of a resource base. Affected by low population density, low compared with even the poorer regions of the European part of Russia, the level of development of social, domestic services.

By the way, the collapse in oil prices plus the coronavirus epidemic also contributed. In March 2020, industrial production in the country grew by only 1,2%, decreasing by 3,5 times compared with February of the same year. Some growth remains due to the extraction of minerals. The outflow of foreign investment also does not speak in favor of economic growth.

Most Russian regions will not be able to significantly improve their economic situation without the support of the federal center, and this support cannot be reduced only to financial tranches, otherwise there will be no sense from it. As long as a tremendous imbalance remains between Moscow and the rest of the regions, between the European part of Russia and Siberia with the Far East, it is either extremely difficult or impossible to talk about overcoming the economic lag of dozens of regions.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog April 4 2020 17: 34 New
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    Even in Moscow, starting in 2014, the situation has worsened .. POs are not growing, work is much less .. what can we say about the regions ..
    Where does the economic growth come from in Russia, when the main thing that we produce is oil and gas .. and oil is now very cheaply traded ..
    This year they even stopped making roads, earlier they removed the canvas annually and laid a new one .. sawed on what the light is all about .. now I look at everything in the holes and do nothing .. those who saw it seem to suffer .. they left without income ..
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 April 4 2020 17: 57 New
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      roads are made including from tar, produced from the oil we sell .... sad probably sell a lot.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog April 4 2020 18: 32 New
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        Quote: aybolyt678
        roads are made including from tar, produced from the oil we sell .... sad probably sell a lot.

        Look ... who the Russian government supports during the crisis .. so what kind of development can be discussed .. you can forget about development with such a leadership of the country .. everything is rotten ..
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 April 4 2020 19: 23 New
          +9
          I am skeptical of Karaulov .. He once made his contribution to the collapse of the Soviet system, he did not get off the screens. Although everything seems to be correct.
        2. businessv
          businessv April 4 2020 20: 40 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          .. you can forget about development with such a leadership of the country .. everything is rotten ..

          Taken off the tongue, colleague! smile As long as the country is led by loyal and loyal government supporters, and not competent business executives, industrialists, managers, our country and our people will never live with dignity!
          1. depressant
            depressant April 4 2020 22: 18 New
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            Colleagues, the government burst into a list of support for supporting enterprises in the crisis. You will not believe that the number of support, that is, the most important, includes bookmakers registered in Cyprus - offshore! And the enterprises of Prigogine. There are no words.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 April 4 2020 22: 38 New
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              Quote: depressant
              the number of support, that is, the most important, includes bookmakers registered in Cyprus - offshore!

              Interestingly, this falls under the misuse of funds ??? are prosecutors controlled?
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey April 5 2020 05: 02 New
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                Quote: aybolyt678
                are prosecutors controlled?

                You probably made a reservation? The prosecutor’s office is controlled ....))))
                As well as statistics and um - "talking organs" ..
      2. polar fox
        polar fox April 4 2020 20: 05 New
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        Quote: aybolyt678
        roads are made including from tar,

        judging by how the roads dissolve in the spring, they are made mainly from refined products.
        1. lwxx
          lwxx April 4 2020 20: 20 New
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          judging by how the roads dissolve in the spring, they are made mainly from refined products.
          In Kamchatka there is a proverb - snow melts in May, and asphalt in April.
      3. lwxx
        lwxx April 4 2020 20: 27 New
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        "Roads are also made from tar produced from the oil we sell .... sad we probably sell a lot." Sorry, but in this statement, you are a classic example of the Dunning-Krueger principle. Especially Russian interpretation.
    2. Genry
      Genry April 4 2020 19: 05 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      This year even the roads stopped making

      Why make them? Already broken?
      Do a lot of other things ....
      1. Svarog
        Svarog April 4 2020 19: 29 New
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        I watched the video ... well ... 12 minutes from empty to empty, but in fact all the positive came down to the car for laying tunnels and the MC-21 .. which still will be .. The superjet was also promoted .. having no analogues, the first domestic plane .. but as it turned out from the domestic, he does not have much ..
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 4 2020 21: 18 New
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          This is your scribble, as always, from empty to empty with the resulting whining.
    3. Million
      Million April 4 2020 22: 01 New
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      In our region, only Armenians are engaged in road repair. The quality of their work is extremely low.
      1. depressant
        depressant April 4 2020 22: 44 New
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        It was like that in our village too. And once I was tired of observing from the window a fence made of sticks and stubs, the rotten roof of our housing office, ancient sheds on its territory and huge holes in the annually changed asphalt. And at the moment when we walked in a crowd and looked for a place for garbage cans, I told the mayor that the landscape is the GULAG of the 37th year, your authorities will come, see all this, which will think about you ...
        Since then, and it was 2014, I still wonder what pushed the mayor to take drastic actions after my words? Either he grabbed a big grab from the budget of the village and his fear broke that he would come up, or he saw in a different light what used to seem normal to him. In general, a week later a gigantic amount of equipment was driven in, Russian workers boomed, titanic work boiled, in the next two weeks the landscape outside my window was radically transformed, maximally ennobled, the asphalt is still perfect. I can’t imagine where the mayor took that kind of money. They clearly exceeded several times the skinny annual town budget. I believe that what happened is a rare exception to the rules of behavior of city governors.
        1. dSK
          dSK April 5 2020 01: 28 New
          +4
          When the entire added territory is built up in Moscow, 40-50 million inhabitants will live in it, a third of the population of Russia.
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  2. Voyager
    Voyager April 4 2020 17: 34 New
    -27
    Well done, the author, sketched, now rush.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 April 4 2020 17: 56 New
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      Quote: Voyager
      Well done, the author, sketched, now rush.

      energy trade is not an economy, this is the sale of the motherland sad
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 4 2020 18: 15 New
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        While buying it is necessary to sell and Russia sells more and more products of final processing: rubbers gasoline, rubber, chemical compounds, etc.
        1. Grits
          Grits April 4 2020 18: 46 New
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          Quote: Vadim237
          While buying, you need to sell

          So after all, not one, even the most developed country, will refuse to sell surpluses of its raw materials. If they have it ... Here we have it.
          By the way, the USA also does not disdain the sale of raw materials, but for some reason they call us a gas station.
          1. Lannan Shi
            Lannan Shi April 4 2020 19: 05 New
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            Quote: Gritsa
            By the way, the USA also does not disdain the sale of raw materials, but for some reason they call us a gas station.

            Industry, manufacturing and mining, cx, construction, communal flat, i.e. the real sector in the usa is about 5000-5500 billion. Usa oil is produced, at last year's prices, by about 250-260 yards. We have a real sector in the region of 640 billion. We produce a little less oil than in the United States. So it’s clear why we, and not they, claim the title of gas station?
          2. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 April 4 2020 19: 28 New
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            Quote: Gritsa
            So after all, not one, even the most developed country, will refuse to sell surpluses of its raw materials.

            And there really is no surplus, if you look at the prospect of at least two generations. In the White Sea, through the ice we mine!
            1. Grits
              Grits April 5 2020 06: 03 New
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              Quote: aybolyt678
              In the White Sea, through the ice we mine!

              Something I do not know of such deposits and facts of production. Enlighten, if you know.
        2. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi April 4 2020 18: 59 New
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          Quote: Vadim237
          While buying, you need to sell

          Ugums. It’s also good to buy anasha with heroin, and minors, in foreign brothels. Do you need to sell while you buy?
          1. Ilya-spb
            Ilya-spb April 4 2020 19: 09 New
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            The stupidest comparison. Do you obviously do this often?
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            1. Lannan Shi
              Lannan Shi April 4 2020 21: 38 New
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              Quote: Vadim237
              Now, you’ve brought some garbage into comparison.

              From the point of view of a petty speculator? Of course. But from the point of view of the state, everything is far from simple. There was, however, and now there is such a country - South Korea. In the early 60s, she could only sell rice, soy and fish. And if Park Jung Hee steered by your principle ... We now would have the same Korean rice on the shelves of stores. Why not sell while they buy? However. There he didn’t want to live like that. He was a real helmsman, and not a petty spicule due to a misunderstanding of the climbed by the throne. As a result, Korean rice cannot be bought from us. But the car, TV or ship, Korean, easily. And we ... And here we are for 30 years of life, according to the principle, while you have to buy, you have to degrade from the industrial power, the second largest industrial producer, into the raw materials appendage of yesterday's rice plantations. Dreaming of how to suck in the same South Korea of ​​oil, gas, or something else very useful, and very fossil.
              PS
              Minerals can be useful additions to the export list, but not the basis. If they are the basis, then the country is diagnosed with a colony. Retaining independence, either formally or temporarily.
              1. depressant
                depressant April 4 2020 23: 08 New
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                Lannan Shi, I will support.
                I once read that, according to leading world experts, South Korea is able to fully, 100%, provide the most advanced gadgets, including military assortment. So they also have presidents put on trial.
              2. mat-vey
                mat-vey April 5 2020 05: 14 New
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                Quote: Lannan Shi
                But from the point of view of the state, everything is far from simple. There was, however, and now there is such a country - South Korea.

                At the heart of this "miracle" is dictatorship and Western money ... But it must be admitted that the dictator was a statesman and a patriot of his country.
                1. Lannan Shi
                  Lannan Shi April 5 2020 08: 57 New
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                  Quote: mat-vey
                  At the heart of this "miracle" is dictatorship and Western money ... But it must be admitted that the dictator was a statesman and a patriot of his country.

                  With dictatorship and everything is in order with us. With money, both Western and domestic, the situation is still okay. But the dictator’s patriotism is in great shortage.
              3. Vadim237
                Vadim237 April 5 2020 13: 05 New
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                Your USSR industrial production rested only on the help of half the world for barter and money loyalty; they didn’t pay us, so we supplied them at our own expense - at the same time, I put a big bolt on post-industrialization every year more and more distorting the economy towards the military-industrial complex, thereby driving the country every year, during the crisis and bankruptcy in the 80s, the collapse of all the above activities occurred, either raising prices or cutting costs for the republics that were already being drained from the RSFSR to the maximum extent, but that would only delay bankruptcy for some time, the USSR had no sources of income from outside nobody needed civilian products and the quality of these products left much to be desired. The cost of such a production that works at a loss and at a warehouse and comparing Russia with South Korea is quite dumb since South Korea has always had a market economy and Russia fully went from planned to market economy only in the early 2000s, we never it was and only recently it began to appear - I don’t know who and what has degraded there - now they buy from Russia everything that it produces in mechanical engineering and in other areas - but in all areas we are not alone in the market and the last word is left to the client.
        3. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 April 4 2020 19: 26 New
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          Quote: Vadim237
          Russia sells more and more products of final processing: rubbers gasoline, rubber, chemical compounds, etc.

          let them sell processed products. By the way, China, for example, does not fundamentally invest in Russia's processing industries. The Communist Party has banned. When selling raw materials, the buyer always wins.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 4 2020 20: 32 New
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            And this does not prevent Russia from developing the processing of raw materials into products with high added value, developing and manufacturing its own equipment for mining and processing.
            1. Revival
              Revival April 4 2020 21: 39 New
              +7
              Masks! Gauze masks, Karl! Not mastered !!!
              No, no, that's all ...
              Helpless and useless
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 April 5 2020 13: 11 New
                -1
                Take a loan and go overpower - Russia for the whole population they need to sew 700 million every day at the rate of five pieces a day on the snout. But I think in two weeks you will set an absolute world record for sewing 10 million masks a day with your claims and outbursts.
                1. Revival
                  Revival April 5 2020 18: 35 New
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                  That is, I, and not the state machine at a critical moment, is understandable.
                  # helpless and useless
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    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 4 2020 20: 13 New
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      Quote: Voyager
      Well done, the author, sketched, now rush.

      And what should the authors living in Russia write about? Praise Putin’s “brilliant” government of the state? They survived ... Even oil - an eternal source of dollars - managed to sell at a loss.
      I watch videos that are produced by different people (economists, politicians, bloggers) and draw conclusions that everything that the official government broadcasts against this background looks like a vile propaganda of concepts. Moreover, even on central television channels, this propaganda comes with violations of the law on advertising on TV ...
      Not only do we depend on the volume of hydrocarbon sales, we also have been given the conditions that Moscow will be the regulator of well-being in the region, and those who cannot keep a smile on their face will get “leftovers” from the budget cake ... Raw materials economy .. .Interesting such a relationship between sales volumes and the price of exchanges ...
      Here, for example, oil. Take the price of $ 28 per barrel (159 liters). It turns out that at a dollar exchange rate of $ 1 = 72 rubles, a liter of oil will cost 28: 159 x 72 = 12 rubles 67 kopecks. You are all (mostly) adults and you (mostly) go shopping and buy groceries. Ask yourself, is it really impossible to create a production of goods in the country whose price per liter / kg is much higher than these 12, 67 rubles?
      I’ll just give you a number of goods that we are brought from abroad, buying there for currency:
      Borjomi - 98 rubles for 0,5 liters (in glass containers);
      Potatoes - 42-62 rubles per kg (Egypt, Israel);
      Tomatoes - 220 (Uzbekistan) and 320 (Azerbaijan) per kg;
      Bulgarian pepper - 0,79 kg for 102 rubles;
      Corn, peas, sprats, fish, meat and dairy products, etc. the fact that we can grow and produce houses is much more expensive than oil ... But production is not profitable for us. The whole world uses progressive personal income tax scales, the whole world regulates property taxes, taxing extra meters and the second, third, etc. housing additional taxes, but with us?
      In our country, everything is done so as not to offend those that in the 90s crossed human concepts and did everything for profit.
      Who and why from the regions of the Russian Federation leads and lags behind in economic development: examples

      And I don’t care who? and why? I am concerned about the question: "How long will this continue and what will happen after that?"
      1. depressant
        depressant April 4 2020 23: 16 New
        +7
        And he is waiting for the coronavirus to eat us, when we stop knocking on the wall. Remember how the divers knocked when "she drowned"? We did not understand then, did not attach importance.
      2. Voyager
        Voyager April 5 2020 11: 54 New
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        And what should the authors living in Russia write about?

        I repeat. The author threw on the fan. In other words, he raised the topic and retelling everything that people have already known for so long. No suggestions, no ideas HOW to influence the situation and WHAT should be done in these conditions. Simply, "I'll remind you we're in the ass." You can also work out an action plan using the method of Navalny's latest leadership:
        1. WIN THE EPIDEMIC
        2. CURE INFECTED
        3. DISTRIBUT ALL MONEY
        4. ELIMINATE CORRUPTION
        5. Move away from the RAW ECONOMY

        Let me do it!
  3. Amateur
    Amateur April 4 2020 17: 43 New
    +1
    Scientists-economists offer a variety of classification models for Russian regions. So, N.V. Zubarevich

    What did you break with this Studebaker Zubarevich? Is he your relative


    And who is this your Zubarevich?
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 5 2020 04: 25 New
      +3
      This is actually a woman. One of the best specialists in Russia in economic geography and the study of regional socio-economic processes. She is not an oppositionist, although oppositionists like to refer to her.
  4. knn54
    knn54 April 4 2020 17: 52 New
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    Rating of regions by the degree of subsidization of their budgets
    Republic of Ingushetia - 89,24%
    Chechen Republic - 84,21%
    Republic of Dagestan - 78,82%
    At the same time, the North Caucasian Federal District is the leader in unemployment, the lowest average salary.
    And this is for several years.
    What's next?.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog April 4 2020 17: 54 New
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      Quote: knn54
      Rating of regions by the degree of subsidization of their budgets
      Republic of Ingushetia - 89,24%
      Chechen Republic - 84,21%
      Republic of Dagestan - 78,82%
      At the same time, the North Caucasian Federal District is the leader in unemployment, the lowest average salary.
      And this is for several years.
      What's next?.

      Further more...
    2. BREAKTHROUGH READY
      BREAKTHROUGH READY April 4 2020 18: 03 New
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      There are no subsidized regions in Russia; stop already duplicating the fabrications of the pro-American liberda.
      Even the most economically backward entities have a huge preponderance of budget revenues over subsidies.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 4 2020 18: 17 New
        -1
        Why there are no subsidies and there are regions donors
        1. BREAKTHROUGH READY
          BREAKTHROUGH READY April 4 2020 18: 25 New
          -12
          Where is the information on tax deductions from the regions?
          Where is the information on tax assessments of corporations whose enterprises operate across the country, and taxes are paid at the place of registration of the central office - i.e. in the capital???
          In order to avoid separatism (as in the 90s), Russia has built a centered tax system with the redistribution of most of the public finances through federal funds.
          1. BREAKTHROUGH READY
            BREAKTHROUGH READY April 4 2020 18: 41 New
            -5
            Nothing new, ignoramuses continue their beloved business - minus without bothering with argumentation.
            After all, if, together with "subsidies", one cites at least approximate data on finances pumped out by the federal and Moscow budgets from the provinces, then more than one ideological template will break.
          2. The popuas
            The popuas April 5 2020 10: 08 New
            +1
            I’m also wondering how the Chelyabinsk region got into subsidies, with its industrial giants.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 4 2020 18: 27 New
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          One of the factors for the growth of the regional economy is population density - most of the Russian population lives in the European part; most of the industries are located there.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 4 2020 18: 30 New
            +7
            Why is it so located? People tend to where a comfortable climate plays a big role in this.
    3. Sardanapalus
      Sardanapalus April 5 2020 10: 17 New
      +3
      At one time, they got rid of parasites from southern Central Asia for the benefit of themselves, although at the same time they lost Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic states. What do we have again.? A bunch of "forgiven" debts and plus the parasitic Caucasus, which has always been it, will continue for sure. In the Caucasus, not everything is as deplorable as yours in the privyennom. There, everything just passes by the cashier, again, all at the expense of Voronezh. But get out of there and they will again give "white horses" who will buy them, and not our friends will buy them.
  5. Old partisan
    Old partisan April 4 2020 18: 10 New
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    Somehow I rode a steam train from my hometown of Novosibirsk to Irkutsk and back after a while. All along the way, almost ruins as if there were a warrior.
    As the donkey said IA
    Depressing sight
    The breakthrough and upsurge of industrial production is rushing. Yes, probably Vladik has the same story.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 4 2020 18: 47 New
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      Given that Russia, together with Belarus, supplied 13 republics and the whole USSR helped 120 countries of the world for free starting from the 60s every year - it is not surprising why after the collapse so many enterprises went bankrupt and closed, now it’s easier to build new ones than to restore old ones, it’s not enough to demolish old ones, it’s not enough to demolish them who will, since demolition costs money.
      1. Revival
        Revival April 4 2020 21: 43 New
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        Wake up! 30 years already can’t really do anything !! 1000 years should be untalented to roll off?
        People just do not survive, tear without a jerk
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 5 2020 13: 18 New
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          Well, the fact that you haven’t done anything in 30 years is already your problem personally and my team has opened three more enterprises for 15 years in five years this year, we’ll open three more, the main thing is for the virus to recede faster and remove its isolation.
          1. Revival
            Revival April 5 2020 18: 38 New
            +2
            No, well, why! Fight your favorite self-insulating, you're for everything on top.
            No quarantine! Do not write nonsense, if not in the subject ...
            And then somehow uncomfortable, substitute glorifying everything on top, and then quarantine.
            And then the fake turns out to be more carefully nominally approve
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    2. Grits
      Grits April 4 2020 18: 59 New
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      Quote: Old partisan
      Yes, probably Vladik has the same story.

      I haven’t traveled around the Trans-Siberian Railway for a long time, but I don’t think that something has changed much. Throughout it, the most depressing picture is in the border area between the Amur Region and the Zabaykalsky Territory. Rare villages among marshes and taiga with wooden gray houses. Sometimes something like a sawmill slips.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx April 4 2020 20: 21 New
        +4
        Quote: Gritsa
        the most depressing picture in the border area between the Amur region and the Trans-Baikal Territory.

        In vain do you not appreciate the “poetry of the Russian North”. There on the October railway. such "pearls" can be found ... Apatity, Monchegorsk, Kandalaksha ...
        1. Grits
          Grits April 5 2020 06: 07 New
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          Quote: ROSS 42
          In vain do you not appreciate the “poetry of the Russian North”. There on the October railway. such "pearls" can be found ... Apatity, Monchegorsk, Kandalaksha ...

          And he drove there. True in the 90s. Apatity seemed gray and dull. But the Polar Dawns are not bad. But the natural species there are, of course, wonderful. But our Far East also does not suffer from species of nature. In Trans-Siberian Primorye it is boring - in the marshes mostly. And the rest is beauty. Especially for BAM. Depressing only infrastructure
      2. Sardanapalus
        Sardanapalus April 5 2020 10: 50 New
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        There is a federal highway between Khabarovsk and Blagovnschensk. Horror. Houses covered with andulin instead of slate and with the presence of a fence. These are the houses of the "wealthy" by local standards. ((
  6. parusnik
    parusnik April 4 2020 18: 33 New
    +7
    By the way, the collapse in oil prices plus the coronavirus epidemic also contributed.
    ... Yeah ... In our town, lemons already have 200 r. per kg in chain stores, it’s clear that it’s a luxury, not a potato ... but there isn’t one of its own, only Israeli for 129 per kg .... with an average salary in the district of 22 thousand rubles ... Bananas are really cheaper than 60 rubles. .. Nobody will tell you a simple recipe, how can you make bananas? .. In the regional center, potatoes for 50 rubles ... smile
    1. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian April 4 2020 19: 01 New
      -4
      literally in the morning in a tape bought potatoes at 23 rubles per kg
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. April 4 2020 19: 39 New
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      Peter - Potato 16. Our last year’s crop.
    3. unaha
      unaha April 4 2020 20: 39 New
      +3
      I remember from adventure literature, bananas can be baked)))
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 April 5 2020 04: 31 New
        +1
        Fried eggs with bananas are delicious. Oddly enough, an analogy can be drawn between potatoes and bananas. Both potatoes and bananas are good for health, but only with moderate consumption.
    4. Sardanapalus
      Sardanapalus April 5 2020 10: 52 New
      0
      Instead of lemons, eat horseradish. I'm not kidding. Horseradish antiseptic steeper lemons. Well, and garlic to the heap. good
    5. ycuce234-san
      ycuce234-san April 5 2020 21: 14 New
      0
      Bananas are really cheaper than 60 rubles ... Nobody will tell you a simple recipe, how can you make bananas?

      Look for a start in the Spanish culinary segment of the Internet, searching for the phrase "cocina de banana", then adapt the found recipes to the harsh local reality, such as in the option "bananas stewed in a cauldron with a delicious vegetable seasoning (nodule fried potatoes on cracklings with chili sprinkles bully In general, in the world bananas are used to make such mass products as banana bread flour and livestock feed, therefore, if you look for recipes in the languages ​​of the countries-centers of consumption and production, you will have to row the recipes with a shovel.
  7. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov April 4 2020 18: 38 New
    27
    "It is clear that the most economically developed region, with the highest population density, is Moscow."
    Tell me the large manufacturing enterprises in the city of Moscow. No, in fact, maybe I don’t know something (I completely admit) ... Maybe there are great plants there? Maybe every morning millions of people run to work, dress up in overalls, and become at the machines? And they live in Moscow better than anyone else. What does it mean? This can only mean one thing - Moscow is constantly stealing from the rest of the country. Muscovites, just do not spit me. :)
    1. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian April 4 2020 19: 03 New
      -7
      I wonder what 10+ million live? all the clerks and officials or what?
      1. The popuas
        The popuas April 4 2020 19: 28 New
        +6
        Paracups wink ... we have refractory brick; one company orders and resells it to a metallurgical factory! And in the company one lady rules the ball! She’s both a director and an accountant and many other things, you dare ...
        1. Dron_sk
          Dron_sk April 4 2020 20: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: Popuas
          Perekupy ... we have a refractory brick, one company orders and resells it to a metallurgical factory! And in the company one lady rules the ball! She’s both a director and an accountant and many other things, you dare ...

          Have you noticed the most important thing - why does this factory not buy this brick directly, but do it through this lady?
    2. Dron_sk
      Dron_sk April 4 2020 19: 27 New
      +7
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      "It is clear that the most economically developed region, with the highest population density, is Moscow."
      Tell me the large manufacturing enterprises in the city of Moscow. No, in fact, maybe I don’t know something (I completely admit) ... Maybe there are great plants there? Maybe every morning millions of people run to work, dress up in overalls, and become at the machines? And they live in Moscow better than anyone else. What does it mean? This can only mean one thing - Moscow is constantly stealing from the rest of the country. Muscovites, just do not spit me. :)

      Moscow, in relation to the rest of Russia and even the entire CIS, has become what the USA has become for the whole world at one time: it has become the center of emigration of most talented and intelligent people who want changes in life, earn more and have better prospects. The United States in its time became the financial center of the world, forcing everyone to switch to settlements in dollars, and then they simply began to lure all the most talented and smart people from all over the world to themselves, due to which they achieved such success. Moscow has also become the financial and business center of the Russian Federation, which distributes finances by region, in which most of the country's largest companies and the richest people in the country are based. And by itself having such fin flows, there all areas began to develop rapidly and with the help of a vacuum cleaner they began to suck out the most valuable personnel from the regions.
      Just as the United States became successful by closing the Finnish flows onto itself and luring brains and talents from all over the world, so Moscow within Russia has been doing the same thing all this time.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny April 4 2020 19: 55 New
        -20
        The Communists turned it into this.
        It was under them that Moscow became a welcome paradise for millions of poor provincials.
        It was under them that the division into elite "Muscovites" and everyone else happened.
        It was under them that the key factories were built there, the design bureaus and institutes were opened. The best - the rest in other cities had a lower status.
        Accordingly, you could only be a real scientist, designer, artist in Moscow (with a few exceptions).
        We will now disentangle this for 100 years.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog April 4 2020 21: 40 New
          +5
          Quote: Mestny
          The Communists turned it into this.
          It was under them that Moscow became a welcome paradise for millions of poor provincials.
          It was under them that the division into elite "Muscovites" and everyone else happened.
          It was under them that the key factories were built there, the design bureaus and institutes were opened. The best - the rest in other cities had a lower status.
          Accordingly, you could only be a real scientist, designer, artist in Moscow (with a few exceptions).
          We will now disentangle this for 100 years.

          You don’t have this knowledge. And Moscow attracted to itself from the time of Yuri Dolgorukov ... They always went to Moscow to earn money and the opportunity to prove themselves.
          Read Gumilyov ..
      2. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov April 4 2020 20: 15 New
        10
        The way it is. But here's what I don't like about this ... it turns out that in Moscow there are some sort of hucksters who just row money ... and I don't see anything "talented and smart" in this. What is so talented about sitting on a cash flow? I don’t know ... For me, a talented person is the one who left behind something ... these are engineers, doctors, teachers ... whoever is not just "gobseks" and old women pawnbrokers.
        1. Garryman
          Garryman April 4 2020 20: 49 New
          +8
          Moscow is broken off from the lordly table so as not to rebel. So, a little divided for the sake of stability.
        2. _Sergei_
          _Sergei_ April 5 2020 04: 14 New
          +7
          in Moscow there are such hucksters who just rake money

          Money pumped out of the regions, and then the crumbs give back and believe that they give subsidies.
    3. unaha
      unaha April 4 2020 19: 46 New
      +3
      In all fairness, yes, in the near Moscow region they are standing and building enterprises. The reason has already been mentioned - transport accessibility, communications, the proximity of the "decision center" (I'm talking about Moscow), literally everything.
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov April 4 2020 20: 16 New
        +7
        I agree, but this is not Moscow. Moscow is generally a separate world that does not live in time with the rest of Russia.
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 4 2020 21: 11 New
      -19
      Moscow and the region have a GDP of under 30 trillion every year - so you turned it in the wrong place at the expense of "Steals", not all taxes from the regions go to the state budget, some go to local budgets and from the cost of gasoline too.
    5. Gaersul
      Gaersul April 4 2020 22: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      Moscow is constantly stealing from the rest of the country. Muscovites, just do not spit me

      Why spit on you? You almost exactly said, you just need to clarify that money is flowing, not to ordinary Muscovites, but to those who "stand at the helm" and it so happened that these very helmsmen, in the bulk, are in Moscow. And as for the enterprises, then yes, the industry is almost killed, if anyone holds on, then only probably the defense industry.
    6. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 5 2020 04: 32 New
      -2
      And in London, New York, Paris can you name the industrial giants?))
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood April 5 2020 11: 59 New
        +5
        In London, Paris and New York, the standard of living and the quality of infrastructure are not much different from other cities in the countries where they are located. And there is no such wild salary difference either.
    7. victor50
      victor50 April 5 2020 09: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      Tell me the large manufacturing enterprises in the city of Moscow.

      oil and gas laughing
    8. vindigo
      vindigo April 5 2020 10: 13 New
      +3
      In one of the articles at VO, a Muscovite wrote that he works 6 days a week for 12 hours and goes on vacation for two weeks a year. And so he deserves such a salary. And I had a question, what is he doing there? In my apartment and at work there is not a single thing produced in the Moscow region. The vast majority of everything is foreign.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood April 5 2020 12: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: vindigo
        what is he doing there?


        For example, here.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 5 2020 13: 21 New
        -1
        The service works as a mechanic - as an option.
  8. anjey
    anjey April 4 2020 18: 57 New
    +8
    The raw materials, oil and gas regions and large industrial and financial centers are afloat, the rest survive as best they can through subsidies from the Center. Maybe in the distant future, the state will take a strategy for building up Russian open spaces - cottage-type urban settlements with a long-term system of payments for houses for rebirth land owners - farmers with small farms and allotments of land and not large monopolies - producing only disenfranchised, impoverished labor, until there is a real class of farmers who own their land, even if not as massive as but it was able to raise agriculture and feel like real citizens and patriots of Russia and not slaves and lumpen, but for this we need strategic systemic state support that does not immediately pay off but gives an impetus to the development of new Russian farmers, people who are real owners of their land, and an impetus to the development of construction, engineering, processing complexes. Dreaming is not harmful, of course, but for such a territory you need a real master-worker.
    1. anjey
      anjey April 4 2020 19: 27 New
      +7
      Adherents of the distribution and sale of Russian lands to foreign agents from finance and business ??? What is wrong with the well-to-do class of Russian farmers-farmers, who, as you know, was in Russia until 1917, let it be a system, for example, an agricultural artel, something like a mini-collective farm, the essence does not change, there are so many ownerless and abandoned lands throughout the country , half-dead empty villages, my heart bleeds ....
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 4 2020 19: 34 New
        +3
        I will not argue with you. The farmer is, first of all, the owner of the land.
      2. unaha
        unaha April 4 2020 19: 54 New
        +2
        Less those who are guided by the trends of the modern economy (like them or not, but they are an objective reality))). And these tendencies are aimed at concentration of the population in cities, which can greatly reduce costs and, accordingly, the cost of any practically product. Resettlement in our open spaces, on the contrary, increases them and no one will do this (although we would like to, but alas). So all the people will probably gradually move to "non-rubber"))) And who does not fit into the more southern large cities.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 4 2020 20: 41 New
          -5
          The population will flock to medium and large cities - this trend can not be stopped by anyway, the more people in a certain territory the more developed infrastructure and mobile communications - less maintenance costs, less production and logistics costs.
          1. anjey
            anjey April 4 2020 21: 50 New
            +5
            Well, yes, we’ll give out the lands of Russia to Chinese collective farmers ....
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey April 5 2020 05: 34 New
              +3
              Quote: anjey
              Well, yes, we’ll give out the lands of Russia to Chinese collective farmers ....

              More forests and Baikal water ...
            2. unaha
              unaha April 5 2020 11: 03 New
              0
              So they won’t take it. In China, the trends are the same - the bulk strives for cities in southern China. But they naturally will not refuse to scoop up everything useful with a landing on foreign territory. But this is already a question for those who provide them with such opportunities.
            3. Vadim237
              Vadim237 April 5 2020 13: 23 New
              -3
              And moreover, here the Chinese collective farmers — they will take a dime a dozen of their agricultural holdings, and they will already take all the land under greenhouses and crops.
              1. anjey
                anjey April 5 2020 15: 41 New
                +1
                I am exaggerating, but the holdings again produce for the most part disenfranchised and poor workers and I advocate for a new class of owners who will live on their land and if it is necessary to protect and preserve the eye like an apple, something like that.
      3. tatra
        tatra April 4 2020 19: 58 New
        +3
        That's right, a bunch of wealthy landowners and kulaks, most of the poor, half-starved peasants, and the Russian Empire, which is not getting out of a state of chronic hunger. And this is your "so many abandoned and abandoned lands throughout the country, half-dead empty villages" is just a direct consequence of the capture of Russia by those who praise the "prosperous class of farmers-farmers" in Ingushetia.
        Enemies of the USSR on the territory of the USSR are always only for everything bad for their country and people.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 4 2020 20: 58 New
          -10
          A huge contribution to the bleeding of the Russian countryside was made by: civil war, surplus surplus dispossession, dispossession, the resettlement of peoples, famines of 32-33 years, repressions - they went the same way against the peasantry, the Second World War was the most powerful blow when the USSR lost more than 70000 villages and more than 90000 collective farms 2800 state farms and almost 28 million people killed, most of them were rural residents, wounded and missing, in 46 there was another famine due to crop failure which killed almost a million people, Khrushchev put the final point in the fate of the Russian village having issued village passports and free movement within the union, thereby accelerating urbanization and now, in view of technological progress in the Union of Artists, a lot of people in the countryside are no longer needed.
          1. tatra
            tatra April 4 2020 21: 09 New
            +4
            Thank you for proving my words about the enemies of the USSR in the last sentence, because it is an axiom that Soviet collective farms are BEST both in agricultural production and for most peasants, compared to agricultural production and the quality of life of most peasants in the Russian Empire , and in post-Soviet Russia.
            The enemies of their country and people on the territory of the USSR are therefore angry against everything Soviet, because they understand that they are not able to prove that pre-revolutionary and / or post-Soviet is better for their country and people.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 April 5 2020 13: 30 New
              -3
              Well, yes, the best collective farms and state farms - only for some reason the best could not provide the country with grain and no matter what fodder or otherwise starting from the 57th, this problem, even related to crop failures, was not resolved until 91 years. True, she always hurts her eyes, but now we live in truth.
        2. anjey
          anjey April 4 2020 21: 56 New
          +4
          Everyone will not become prosperous farmers, but at least they will settle previously abandoned territories and feed themselves on their own land, a semblance of the modern "Stolypin reform", in my opinion, is needed by modern Russia, although this trend is not profitable and is not seriously considered at this time.
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 April 5 2020 04: 40 New
            +2
            You will not find a large number of people who want to move to the countryside. The vast majority of people do not agree for any carriages or for any cottages.
            1. anjey
              anjey April 5 2020 05: 10 New
              +2
              If there are real economic and household "gingerbreads" as well as opportunities are created to grow and sell their products, then 20-30 percent will go, although I agree that on earth, the people in the bulk, have forgotten how to work and are afraid ...
              1. unaha
                unaha April 5 2020 11: 13 New
                +3
                What "gingerbread" there are! I have land in a village a little less than a hundred kilometers away. from a large city, there is no transport with anything, in principle, about 15 yards live constantly and these are families, not old people. They actually live on subsistence farming, earn extra money with whatever they can (well, that's how I, semi-local people buy milk, etc.). Well at least the road is still being cleaned and sometimes sprinkled. And in the immediate vicinity there are 5 such villages, and there is no road as such to half of them - voles. Here's how to create at least some positive life factors there?
                1. anjey
                  anjey April 5 2020 12: 22 New
                  +2
                  I did not say that people should be driven into old villages without modern infrastructure and work, we are talking about new modern infrastructure and, of course, the most important thing is about the state long-term policy of revival and support, I understand that in the near future, under the rule of our oligators, that the people, and somewhere the future of the country, need fast profits in their personal business and economy to one place, such a project is not needed, but I want to believe that someday it will be, and not a small skeleton of Russians will be a full-fledged host their land.
                2. anjey
                  anjey April 5 2020 12: 30 New
                  +1
                  But before, there were such factors and the work of people in the village was the meaning of life.
                  1. unaha
                    unaha April 5 2020 13: 01 New
                    +1
                    Alas, the key word is "earlier".
                    "but I want to believe that someday it will be" - I really want to, but here I am a pessimist, not in our lifetime)
                    1. anjey
                      anjey April 5 2020 13: 15 New
                      0
                      We will believe and the fairy tale will come true laughing .
  9. seacap
    seacap April 4 2020 19: 47 New
    16
    Such a concentration of everything and everything in one metropolis, no longer amenable to any common sense and logic, is a direct and obvious threat to the country, which is shown by the notorious virus, quarantine in 1 city, literally the whole country is paralyzed. 10% of the population, 80% of the money supply is the center of management and decision-making of all aspects of the country's life, everything and everything, there is no such thing anywhere in the world. 1 megapolis "sucks" all vital juices from all regions, leaving them without resources, let alone development, and elementary existence. Plus the whole politics and attitude of the capital as a metropolis to the country as to a colony, and in its worst and densest manifestation, even live according to other laws. The number of cases (all of them imported) by region shows who has the opportunity to wander around all year round. the world, to keep their children and servants in overseas villas, who does not care about Russian laws and recommendations. This is without the military aspect, such an inconceivable concentration, management, research institutes, and production at one point. I wonder why they began to build a cosmodrome so far away, and not somewhere immediately outside the Moscow Ring Road?
    1. tatra
      tatra April 4 2020 20: 03 New
      +8
      What do you want from those who praised Russia in 1991 with their "opinion" that the RSFSR should have been rich and developed, and do not care about all the other republics of the USSR? By the same principle, they created their anti-Soviet Russia - Moscow should be rich and developed, and do not care about all other regions.
    2. unaha
      unaha April 4 2020 20: 08 New
      +3
      There’s a hitch - the laws of nature according to the wishes of the authorities, dogs are not built like that))) Although cracking, but in order to save a little fuel and raise more weight, the launch pad should be as far south as possible.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 4 2020 21: 02 New
      -4
      How do we start aerospace single-stage planes to do so from the Moscow region, they will begin to fly.
    4. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 5 2020 04: 52 New
      0
      Study economic geography, and you will be happy. There are many countries in the world with a much greater concentration of population and resources in the capital and (or) financial and industrial centers. Take France, for example. in which the Ile-de-France region with its center in Paris (the population of the region is 12 million out of 65 million of the population of France, the area is 12 thousand square kilometers from the entire country 674 thousand square kilometers (including the continental part 547 thousand square kilometers)) produces a third of the country's national wealth. Or compare the role of Boschash over-agglomeration (megalopolis) in the United States, or Tokaido in Japan, or the city of Seoul in South Korea. Or the role of Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro in huge Brazil. We just need 3-4 more centers in the Russian Federation, approximately equal in scale to St. Petersburg, with a population of 3-5 million people, which are agglomeration centers with a population of 5-7 million.
  10. unaha
    unaha April 4 2020 20: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: seacap
    Such a concentration of everything and everything in one megalopolis, no longer amenable to any common sense and logic

    In principle, the situation with megacities really goes beyond common sense. But only in a situation where it is not a problem to produce, the problem is to sell, for which it is necessary to reduce costs in all possible ways, in the foreseeable future nothing good can be expected. And in this race, there is a constant concentration of capital and a decrease in the income of the vast majority.
  11. tacet
    tacet April 4 2020 22: 08 New
    +3
    Could the author tell you how the Nizhny Novgorod region relates to servicing the oil industry? Yes, there are Lukoil and Sibur factories in Kstovo, but this more likely refers to oil refining and 4 stations of Transneft, and the salaries there are not high, at least when we opened a new production site - we received a lot there are many workers from both Lukoil and Transneft. If Transneft is attributed to the oil-extracting industry, then why in Chuvashia, where the same node of pipelines only Transgaz, lags far behind the Nizhny Novgorod region?
  12. Radikal
    Radikal April 4 2020 23: 17 New
    +8
    It is clear that the most economically developed region, with the highest population density, is Moscow
    And on the basis of what indicators the author made such a conclusion, if at present in Moscow there is a minimal number of industrial enterprises in comparison with the Soviet period. Most of them were destroyed, and elite residential complexes grew up in their territory, in which those who, because of the cordon the coronavirus brought us, live. The scanty part of enterprises was moved to other regions, the remaining enterprises can be counted on the fingers. Therefore, now Moscow is - banks, shopping centers, nightclubs, hotels and other facilities for a fun time by a certain category of citizens. sad
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 5 2020 13: 43 New
      -5
      In Moscow and the region of large-scale production alone, there are more than a few tens of thousands of medium and small, more than a dozen universities, research institutes and design bureaus. The concentration of production is the highest in Russia as a service sector.
  13. mag nit
    mag nit April 5 2020 05: 07 New
    +7
    No one doubts that Moscow oil and gas workers feed all of Russia.
    1. anjey
      anjey April 5 2020 05: 38 New
      +6
      Commodity Manegers - decide everything laughing .
    2. mat-vey
      mat-vey April 5 2020 05: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: mag nit
      No one doubts that Moscow oil and gas workers feed all of Russia.

      As well as chemists, metallurgists and miners .... well, and natural chains ..
  14. Grading
    Grading April 5 2020 05: 46 New
    +3
    Quote: Million
    In our region, only Armenians are engaged in road repair. The quality of their work is extremely low.

    Plus just beyond the bounds of corruption!
  15. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui April 5 2020 07: 02 New
    +6
    stripped ALL regions and leader type economic wassat at the same time buying technical infrastructure and tasty real estate. Neo-feudal lords.
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    2. mat-vey
      mat-vey April 5 2020 09: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: viktor_ui
      stripped ALL regions and leader type economic wassat at the same time buying technical infrastructure and tasty real estate. Neo-feudal lords.

      Yes, even jackies with a Moscow head ...
  16. depressant
    depressant April 5 2020 11: 00 New
    +4
    Colleagues, now let's talk seriously.
    Law! Local Industry Act. Taxes from which under certain conditions go fully to the budget of the region. Suppose, if a Russian citizen from the moment of adoption of the law creates an enterprise in the territory of any settlement, a useful enterprise, then the largest part of the tax remains in the budget of this settlement, and a small part is transferred to the region. If the taxes transferred to the region exceed a certain limit, then part of the excess is transferred to the federal center.
    A large enterprise, as I understand it, cannot be built without the knowledge of the federal center, and therefore initially pays taxes to the state budget.
  17. Radikal
    Radikal April 5 2020 15: 18 New
    +3
    Quote: Vadim237
    In Moscow and the region of large-scale production alone, there are more than a few tens of thousands of medium and small, more than a dozen universities, research institutes and design bureaus. The concentration of production is the highest in Russia as a service sector.

    If you mean the production of shawarma, and other baking, then yes there are more than a thousand of them, and research institutes and design bureaus have experienced workshops in which samples of advanced technology or equipment are produced. They do not have conveyors, or platforms (workshops) for mass production. And most of these research institutes and design bureaus themselves barely make ends meet, and not just to give any profit. sad
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 5 2020 23: 49 New
      0
      Shawarma - not production, this is a food service sector. I don’t know what design bureaus and research institutes make ends meet: Baumanka, Moscow Engineering Physics Institute, Moscow State University, Moscow Aviation Institute, Moscow Institute of Mathematics and Mathematics live perfectly like everyone else and their funding is not only state funding.
  18. Round Smesharik
    Round Smesharik April 5 2020 15: 20 New
    0
    Well, Moscow is always ahead of everyone ..)))
    But I think the outflow will go .. And we are not waiting for them (luck catchers))))) !!!!!
  19. Tests
    Tests April 5 2020 21: 18 New
    +4
    depressant (lyudmila yakovlevna kuznetsova), dear, but who makes laws in the Russian Federation and for whom? And in the subjects of the Russian Federation, who accepts the laws? And the decrees and orders? ... Now, finally, Governor Orlov was removed in the Arkhangelsk region, which was famous for the fact that there was only one priority investment project in the region - Shies. The former governor of NAO A.V. arrived Tsybulsky, became in the Arkhangelsk region acting the governor. I read a biography of this politician of the Russian Federation - from such a dizzying career my breath was already in my mouth.
    Began acting. work and signed new changes to the decree of the Governor of the region dated March 17, 2020 No. 28-y by his decree No. 3-u dated April 2020, 44, today the result of his work was officially published. True, it is not clear that there is a "place of residence (stay)" in federal laws we are talking about the "place of residence of a citizen" .... From April 05, 2020, citizens, by decree of 03.04.20/30/XNUMX, on the territory of the Arkhangelsk region, people can easily accept participation in the burial of close relatives. But the spouse and the parents of the spouse are not close relatives .... To go to work, you must have a certificate from the employer that you are working. Question: how will I get a certificate while sitting at home in self-isolation - the director will come to me personally? And if I go for a certificate, and the king's guards will stop me in the city? At a large enterprise, such as "Zvezdochka" or SEVMASH, will the deputy director for personnel personally bring to each employee what is involved in the state defense order? Delivery of certificates will require gasoline - someone lives outside the city (one way more than XNUMX km, for example, to SNT "Yagrinskoe" from OK "Zdezdochka"), but how will we write off gasoline - is it official? ... The decree was prepared by officials with a wonderful salary and a wonderful pension, but the quality of the decree is below the level of the city sewage system ... And so in everything and everywhere ... Will we remember the May Decrees of the President of the Russian Federation? ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 5 2020 23: 52 New
      -3
      Maybe they should send by mail - and you print a piece of paper.
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 April 7 2020 08: 40 New
        +1
        Cops will take a copy of this and issue you a fine, the cost of food for a week. The latter will be taken from someone.
        And no, almost in
        Moscow production. Managers and majors. Hard workers, plodders and slaves, Tajiks at construction sites.
        A city that has destroyed all large enterprises cannot be a leader.
  20. Radikal
    Radikal April 5 2020 23: 52 New
    +2
    Quote: Vadim237
    Shawarma - not production, this is a food service sector. I don’t know what design bureaus and research institutes make ends meet: Baumanka, Moscow Engineering Physics Institute, Moscow State University, Moscow Aviation Institute, Moscow Institute of Mathematics and Mathematics live perfectly like everyone else and their funding is not only state funding.

    Strange, at first it was about research institutes and design bureaus, and now it has come to universities. Question - do you play poker? sad
  21. Titsen
    Titsen April 7 2020 07: 55 New
    0
    Quote: depressant
    I told the mayor


    Cool maine straight!

    Come to us and tell our mayor?