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The Norwegian press announced the formation of the first dictatorship in the European Union

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The Norwegian press announced the formation of the first dictatorship in the European Union

The European press discusses the situation with rights and freedoms in Europe against the backdrop of the well-known crisis. So, in the Norwegian edition of Aftenposten an article was published by Zilla Chimbalmos, which announces the appearance of the first dictatorship in the vastness of the European Union.


According to the observer, Hungary can be considered such a dictatorship, where Prime Minister Viktor Orban "is trying to concentrate all power in the hands of a pandemic."

Chimbalmos writes that some time ago in Hungary "signs of the formation of a dictatorship" were already showing, but then the opinion of this was considered overly exaggerated.

From the article:

The Hungarian parliament recently passed a crisis law giving the head of government enhanced authority to fight the coronavirus. If no one exerts pressure on Hungary from outside, then in the end a full-fledged dictatorship will form in the center of Europe. After all, the new crisis gives the Prime Minister the right to manage the legislative sphere, and this makes the country's parliament superfluous.

Zilla Chimbalmos writes that the new law is not temporary, and that, in her opinion, will allow Orban to use it against the Hungarian opposition.

From the article:

The government has already put forward a number of resolutions under the new law, which have nothing to do with the fight against coronavirus.

The author believes that the ban on visiting theaters and the suspension of the development of park zones in Hungary is “abuse”. As if in other European countries no such measures were taken.

Chimbalmos, a member of the Norwegian branch of the Helsinki Group, writes that "for many, the decisions of the Hungarian government provoked a negative reaction." The author reflects on “violation of human rights in Hungary, including the rights of sexual minorities, the homeless and refugees”.

As you can see, against the backdrop of the spread of coronavirus in Europe, the domestic political struggle is intensifying, in which liberal elites and those who are inclined to defend national politics have come together.
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  1. Ilya-spb
    Ilya-spb April 4 2020 08: 33 New
    16
    There is no sense in democracies. People are waiting for an iron hand and order.

    European democracy has shown itself against the backdrop of coronovirus.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 April 4 2020 08: 40 New
      +4
      A weak hand needs a weak man, normal people need a normal adequate power to rule the country, which, if necessary, could use force to inadequate. It is necessary to create a party of common sense.
      1. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb April 4 2020 08: 42 New
        33
        So I saw normal people. Normal people are in trouble. Czechs stole Italians masks. The Poles did not let airplanes through. Russians and Chinese came to the rescue.
        1. mole
          mole April 4 2020 08: 58 New
          +6
          The owner of Alibaba sent humanitarian aid in the form of masks to Russia (he learned from the Internet), the next day the Ministry of Defense sent a plane with humanitarian aid in the form of masks to the United States (he learned from the media), the next day the Americans said that they bought the masks.
          Once again I am convinced: "To whom the war, to whom the mother is dear."
          "There are no masks in pharmacies, so why do you need them! Masks still do not help!"
        2. iouris
          iouris April 4 2020 12: 31 New
          -8
          The Poles were not addressed. It was a successful anti-Polish special operation carried out by one senator on his own initiative, like "he thinks this way."
        3. venik
          venik April 4 2020 22: 06 New
          +6
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          Russians and Chinese came to the rescue.

          ======
          They forgot about the Cubans and Venezuelans - they also seem to help! drinks
      2. Valery Valery
        Valery Valery April 4 2020 08: 57 New
        11
        Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, etc. - are second-class countries for the EU.
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      3. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich April 4 2020 09: 16 New
        13
        Quote: Ros 56
        A weak hand needs a weak man, normal people need a normal adequate power to rule the country, which, if necessary, could use force to inadequate. It is necessary to create a party of common sense.

        in Rome at the time they introduced a dictatorship for six months during difficult war or dangerous situations.
        and the Romans were not fools in the sense of governing the state.
        during a crisis, parliament cannot timely respond to requests for reality.
        after six months, the dictator should have had blood from his nose but leave the post.
        if not, he became an enemy of the people and every citizen could and should have made efforts to send him to the forefathers.
        with this moment in our time is difficult.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 4 2020 09: 39 New
          +4
          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          and the Romans were not fools in the sense of governing the state.

          And so they moved from democracy to monarchy.
          However, "not fools" and it did not help.
          1. Maki Avellevich
            Maki Avellevich April 4 2020 09: 49 New
            +7
            Quote: Spade
            However, "not fools" and it did not help.

            you organize an empire that will stand for thousands of years and then laugh at the stupid Romans. their construction state. structures and language formed the basis of European
            (Russian as well) culture.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 4 2020 10: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: Maki Avellievich
              you organize an empire that will stand for years with a thousand

              A thousand?
              From Trajan to the collapse of the empire lived 400 years with a penny. Does not pull on "commercials with a thousand"
              And even if we take the beginning of the war with Carthage as the starting line, 264 + 476 = 740 years. Which is also less than a thousand.
              Only the Reich was "millennial" in our history.
              1. Maki Avellevich
                Maki Avellevich April 4 2020 10: 20 New
                -1
                Quote: Spade
                A thousand?
                From Trajan to the collapse of the empire lived 400 years with a penny. Does not pull on "commercials with a thousand"
                And even if we take the beginning of the war with Carthage as the starting line, 264 + 476 = 740 years. Which is also less than a thousand.
                Only the Reich was "millennial" in our history.

                https://inance.ru/2016/10/rim-01/

                n, with Rome and the Roman Empire began before Julius Caesar
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov April 4 2020 10: 34 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Maki Avellievich
                  https://inance.ru/2016/10/rim-01/

                  n, with Rome and the Roman Empire began before Julius Caesar

                  This is all, of course, interesting.
                  But from the moment when "Empire" occupied less territory than modern Italy, it took 740 years to collapse. This is a concrete fact.
                  1. cost
                    cost April 4 2020 11: 03 New
                    13
                    The first emperor (in the modern sense) of Rome was Octavian Augustus: after defeating Mark Anthony and returning from Egypt, he made a triumph and January 13, 27 BC e. resigned from emergency powers before the Senate and announced the restoration of the Republic, but retained the command of 75 legions and the title of emperor (as a permanent denomination).
                    After the assassination of Emperor Commodus, the Roman Empire entered the crisis of the III century, when numerous usurpers began to appear. In 395, the empire was finally divided into the Western Roman Empire and the Eastern Roman Empire.
                    In 476 year the last Western Roman emperor Romulus August was overthrown (although Julius Nepot formally considered himself emperor until 480). The Western Roman Empire fell, and the Eastern Roman Empire, called historians from that time Byzantium, continued to exist for almost a thousand years, until 1453, when Constantinople was captured by the Ottoman Turks.
              2. Eragon
                Eragon April 4 2020 13: 06 New
                +7
                Quote: Spade
                Only the Reich was "millennial" in our history.

                Second Rome forgotten? 1100 years of Byzantium.
                And the Third Rome is not quoted by you? Here, the truth is how to count - you can from 1453, and you can from 988.
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 April 4 2020 14: 38 New
            +6
            The Roman Empire was not a monarchy of the kind that existed in a later period in medieval Europe. Republican elements remained in the Roman Empire; it was of a hybrid nature. And very often the name "Roman Republic" was still used. For the Romans, monarchy, empire meant a strong power of one person. And in medieval Europe, monarchy was understood, first of all, as the hereditary nature of the transfer of power to the ruler.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 April 5 2020 15: 50 New
              +1
              Quote: Sergej1972
              Republican elements remained in the Roman Empire; it was of a hybrid nature. And very often the name "Roman Republic" was still used.

              In fact, the Romans never called their state that way, they called it a republic to the end, it was already historians who later called a certain period of the Roman state "empire" ...
      4. Slavs
        Slavs April 4 2020 11: 42 New
        0
        Quote: Ros 56
        normal people

        Please specify your definition of a normal person. Question without a catch. Interesting.
      5. 16329
        16329 April 4 2020 12: 59 New
        +1
        That is, you divide people into "normal" and "wimps", be careful, read Dostoevsky, otherwise you will go and some grandmother of that .., and even someone from her relatives for the company
      6. gurzuf
        gurzuf April 4 2020 14: 54 New
        +3
        Aha! A strong hand is especially not needed when "normal people" start a fight for power. A strong hand is needed - always.
      7. Doliva63
        Doliva63 April 4 2020 19: 54 New
        +3
        Quote: Ros 56
        A weak hand needs a weak man, normal people need a normal adequate power to rule the country, which, if necessary, could use force to inadequate. It is necessary to create a party of common sense.

        And why do you Edro - not a party of common sense? belay All with money, in power. laughing It is necessary for the AUCPB to restore the sample of the 20-30s - they worked for the country, and not for themselves.
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets April 4 2020 09: 08 New
      11
      Quote: Ilya-spb
      There is no sense in democracies. People are waiting for an iron hand and order.

      European democracy has shown itself against the backdrop of coronovirus.

      All this has already taken place in Germany and Italy, the beginning of the 20th century. And there was an iron hand, and order and so on. And the fact that bourgeois democracy is not the power of the people is a fact. This is the power of big capital and has nothing to do with democracy.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 4 2020 11: 24 New
        -6
        As if our dictatorship of the Communist Party was the power of the people. The Soviets were a purely decorative organ, and power belonged to a handful of partocrats.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets April 4 2020 11: 43 New
          10
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          As if our dictatorship of the Communist Party was the power of the people. The Soviets were a purely decorative organ, and the power belonged to a handful of partyocrats

          The councils never became a purely decorative organ, although this is not the case. Agree with me that the USSR was a much more social state, and both economically and militarily, it was not commensurably stronger.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. April 4 2020 11: 46 New
            -5
            Militarily, no doubt. In the economic one too, though the Soviet economy was turned back to the people. According to the residual principle.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets April 4 2020 11: 52 New
              +7
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              the Soviet economy was turned back to the people

              What do you mean by that? If you mean a deficit, then yes, it was the same. Personally, I believe that Khrushchev should not have closed artels and cooperatives, I think this was the reason for the shortage in the future.
              1. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 April 4 2020 14: 41 New
                +1
                There was a deficit with the existence of artels. Moreover, in the light industry, in the industry for the production of consumer goods, the output of state-owned enterprises was many times greater than the output of the cooperative (namely, cooperative, and not private) sector, even during the heyday of promartels.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets April 4 2020 15: 25 New
                  +2
                  I did not live with "the existence of artels", therefore, it is difficult for me to judge, it is necessary to raise documents, however, according to the logic of things, under Stalin there could be a shortage of money, but there was hardly a shortage of any products, or industrial. goods.
              2. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. April 4 2020 15: 22 New
                -2
                This is the first - there was no need to touch the artels. And when the "tsekhoviks" appeared, they had to be legalized, taxed and protected from crime with all the might of law enforcement agencies. And now we would have entrepreneurs - production workers who did not privatize their enterprises, but created themselves, from scratch.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets April 4 2020 15: 34 New
                  +1
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  This is the first - there was no need to touch the artels. And when the "tsekhoviks" appeared, they had to be legalized, taxed and protected from crime with all the might of law enforcement agencies. And now we would have entrepreneurs - production workers who did not privatize their enterprises, but created themselves, from scratch.

                  I completely agree with you, however, the most important thing is the state’s monopoly on wage labor. Those. private traders should not have the right to use wage labor, and accordingly receive surplus value. Only on a cooperative basis, should any non-state enterprises be built.
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. April 4 2020 15: 56 New
                    -3
                    This is the reason for the lag of the USSR in the production of consumer goods and agriculture - the lack of private ownership of the means of production and the use of wage labor. Private trader, in the process of growth will inevitably come to hired labor. It was necessary to switch to market relations in the late 60s.
                    1. dali
                      dali April 4 2020 16: 59 New
                      +3
                      Quote: AS Ivanov.
                      This is the reason for the lag of the USSR in the production of consumer goods and agriculture - the lack of private ownership of the means of production and the use of wage labor.

                      Prove ...

                      But I’ll tell you that this is not so, and that at the end of 70gg and the beginning of 80gg, the party membership, which decided in the end to become the new rich Pinocchio in the USSR, stopped investing in the development of civilian production - like we’ll buy for oil, we’ll have enough , and the people will crumble ...

                      So it turns out this is a question of upbringing, ideology, well, and perhaps people (not only in the USSR) have not yet matured to a higher-level society ... otherwise, where did all this party party come from, how did these "comrades" get into power.

                      And why all the republics, except the RSFSR, dated, who are more who are less, but dated.

                      And how much money was poured into the so-called developing countries?
                      And in return, what did you get economically? By the way, I’m not saying that they shouldn’t help ... but resources were still wasted ...

                      So there are enough reasons, and when you put them all together, it turns out that your thesis about private property is generally about nothing ...
                      1. AU Ivanov.
                        AU Ivanov. April 4 2020 17: 52 New
                        0
                        We well remember that clumsy state trade and industry are the first cause of the shortage. The same notorious jeans: the state swayed for about 10 years, the guild began to sew them almost at the same time as the fashion for them.
                      2. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets April 4 2020 18: 51 New
                        +1
                        Quote: AS Ivanov.
                        We well remember that clumsy state trade and industry are the first cause of the shortage. The same notorious jeans: the state swayed for about 10 years, the guild began to sew them almost at the same time as the fashion for them.

                        We are not talking about slowness state. machines, but about cooperatives and private ownership of the means of production. You think in vain that the development of a cooperative economy inevitably leads to private ownership of the means of production. Under Stalin there were collective farms millionaires (state farms millionaires) who themselves decided, at a meeting, to build a kindergarten for the collective farm or to build a new current for them. Somehow they were organized, after all, and the cooperatives were very large, since they made electron beam tubes for the first televisions and radios did, for that time they were very technological goods.
                      3. AU Ivanov.
                        AU Ivanov. April 4 2020 18: 59 New
                        0
                        Cooperative property is good, but why is private property so bad? It does not interfere.
                      4. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets April 4 2020 21: 20 New
                        +1
                        Quote: AS Ivanov.
                        Cooperative property is good, but why is private property so bad? It does not interfere.

                        It is not private property as such that is bad, but private ownership of the means of production. Because it (i.e. private property) implies the appropriation of surplus value by the owner of the means of production. It turns out that the owner of the means of production riches much faster than the others, then the owner of the means of production, using the accumulated material resources, begins to influence the political structure of the state (clan, tribe, etc.). It is quite natural that he does not influence in the direction of the interests of the majority of citizens, but in the direction of even greater strengthening of his influence (accumulation of material resources, for gaining even more power). Which, in my opinion, is contrary to the interests of most citizens, i.e. contrary to democracy, as the power of the people.
                      5. AU Ivanov.
                        AU Ivanov. April 4 2020 22: 36 New
                        0
                        I do not see the difference between the exploitation of man by man and the exploitation of man by the state. In both cases, it is the exploitation and appropriation of value added.
                      6. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets April 4 2020 23: 04 New
                        +1
                        The difference is that in the appropriation of surplus value by the state, there is no person (s) who, using the accumulated material resources, will become above the state and force the state to serve their interests, as we have today. Another thing is how to make the state serve the interests of the majority. There are many works of theorists of Marxism and this is a very big topic, not for comment.
                      7. Hypatius
                        Hypatius April 5 2020 03: 23 New
                        +1
                        I do not see the difference between the exploitation of man by man and the exploitation of man by the state. In both cases, it is the exploitation and appropriation of value added.
                        The difference is manifested depending on who owns and serves the state. The USSR de jure belonged to citizens of the USSR, and was governed through the Soviets. The de facto Communist Party, after Khrushchev’s reforms, seized control. With this seizure, the CPSU organized a new class - conditional demos, lowering the remaining citizens to the level of conditional plebos, essentially depriving them of their citizenship (here. A citizen is a co-owner of the state as property). What does it sound: democracy in Russia encourages people to participate in a plebiscite? Here, obviously, democracy is not equal to democracy, and people are not citizens. But, back to the de jure and the Soviets. We have class 1 — citizens of the USSR (conditional patricians) who create, manage, maintain (including an army for protection) common property — the state. And they get nishtyaks from this property - apartments, medicine, pensions ... Who should give the increase, in someone else’s pocket or in a common boiler?
          2. Protos
            Protos April 4 2020 18: 31 New
            +1
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            This is the reason for the lag of the USSR in the production of consumer goods and agriculture - the lack of private ownership of the means of production and the use of wage labor. Private trader, in the process of growth will inevitably come to hired labor. It was necessary to switch to market relations in the late 60s.

            Do not stars! stop
            "During the years of Soviet power in agriculture, significant in scale and social consequences, socio-economic changes have taken place. In accordance with the Leninist cooperative plan, a system of large socialist state and cooperative agricultural enterprises - state and collective farms, which have become the main producers of agricultural products, has been created and operates effectively. The living conditions of Soviet peasants changed beyond recognition. From a backward production based on manual labor, agriculture has turned into a large, technically equipped industry that plays an important role in the world economy. The USSR occupies the first place in the world in the production of wheat, rye, barley, sugar beets, potatoes, sunflowers, cotton, milk, 1nd in terms of sheep, 2rd in total agricultural production, cattle, grain harvest The Soviet Union is a major exporter of many types of agricultural products (grain, cotton, grows. and animal oil, fur raw materials, etc.). "
            soldier
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. April 4 2020 18: 44 New
              0
              Yeah, significant shifts. So they moved that they bought grain in Canada, and the people in the queues for sausage choked. And yes, first place. By the number of deficits.
            2. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets April 4 2020 21: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              Yeah, significant shifts. So they moved that they bought grain in Canada, and the people in the queues for sausage choked. And yes, first place. By the number of deficits.

              They bought grain for livestock feed, now cattle are as much as in 1942, therefore they sell it, there is no one to feed it. For deficit I wrote above.
  • gurzuf
    gurzuf April 4 2020 15: 01 New
    0
    Everything is relative. A pure product can only be in vitro ... and then until a certain point.
  • 16329
    16329 April 4 2020 13: 00 New
    +1
    In Germany and Italy at the beginning of the 20th century there was national socialism.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets April 4 2020 13: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: 16329
      In Germany and Italy at the beginning of the 20th century there was national socialism.

      Do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs.
  • Basil50
    Basil50 April 4 2020 10: 22 New
    12
    Please note humor statements.
    Kingdom of Norway, near the kingdom of Sweden and Denmark, very close to the kingdom of England and the Netherlands. In these countries there are NO CITIZENS by definition, and at the same time there are the most lamentations about democracy (democracy) in other countries
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 4 2020 14: 46 New
      +1
      In Norway and Sweden, operetta monarchies. while in Great Britain and Belgium, for example, formally, the powers of the monarchs are very large, in these two countries, as well as in Asian Japan, they are even small on paper, a few points in the constitution. In Norway and Sweden, part of the powers belonging to other monarchies in other parliamentary monarchies are exercised by talmans (parliament speakers). In Sweden, even a tallyman nominates a candidate for the post of prime minister of the country. This may be an exaggeration, but de facto in Sweden and Norway the powers of the head of state are divided between kings and speakers of parliament. And the executive branch is in the hands of the prime ministers.
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin April 4 2020 11: 09 New
    -4
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    People are waiting for an iron hand and order.

    Someone conducted a survey? Show the result please.
    Or did you spend it yourself?
    If yes, show the result.
    If not, then who gave you the right to speak on behalf of the people?
    I am a man. Did you ask me?
    I don't need an "iron hand"
    1. Irokez
      Irokez April 4 2020 11: 33 New
      +5
      Quote: Lipchanin
      I don't need an "iron hand"

      And the state with its laws, is it not an iron hand? A step away from the law and the law punishes you with fines or prison.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 4 2020 11: 38 New
        -3
        Quote: Irokez
        And the state with its laws, is it not an iron hand?

        So this is the law. And not the whim of one person who can spit on laws
        And without laws, not one community can exist
        1. Irokez
          Irokez April 4 2020 11: 42 New
          +5
          In one of the topics (about two days ago), I already discussed the topic of dictatorship.
          https://topwar.ru/169727-rodrigo-duterte-dal-ukazanie-streljat-v-narushitelej-porjadka-vo-vremja-karantina.html#comment-id-10287512
          Soon, all countries due to world problems will switch to governance in the form of dictatorship.
          And by the way, why is dictatorship considered bad?
          Yes, because this opinion mainly comes from global democrats for whom elections every 4-5 years are an opportunity to influence the state if it did not vote correctly for globalists, that is, not in their interests.
          But in essence, a dictatorship, the power of one is good and bad, so to speak, if a normal dictator and for his country is good, and if a puppet in the hands of globalized democrats is bad. But it’s just that the Democrats are not touching the puppets, and the country's patriots are spread rot and are trying to overthrow. Therefore, the 4-5 year election for the Democrats is their patrimony and an indispensable condition imposed throughout the world because through the elections it is possible to count the votes as needed, and not as it should.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin April 4 2020 11: 46 New
            +3
            I remember this post of yours. I didn’t give an assessment, so I couldn’t refute or confirm your arguments
            For me, everything is ambiguous.
            But I definitely don't need a dictator with an "iron hand".
            1. Irokez
              Irokez April 4 2020 12: 04 New
              +4
              Quote: Lipchanin
              But I definitely don't need a dictator with an "iron hand".

              By the way, he (the dictator) will not even know your opinion, but if it is constructive and useful for everyone, he may take you to advisers (without advisers, nowhere).
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin April 4 2020 12: 10 New
                +1
                Quote: Irokez
                By the way, he (the dictator) will not even know your opinion,

                And my opinion will not be known and not a dictator.
                maybe take you as advisers

                Not for any haircuts.
                I can’t lick ass request
                1. Irokez
                  Irokez April 4 2020 12: 18 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  I can’t lick ass

                  It depends on the dictator. bully
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin April 4 2020 12: 19 New
                    0
                    Quote: Irokez
                    It depends on the dictator.

                    Well, if he is a dictator "iron hand", he does not need advisers. bully
                    He knows everything
                    1. Irokez
                      Irokez April 4 2020 12: 22 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Well, if he is a dictator "iron hand", he does not need advisers.
                      He knows everything

                      This is exactly what you are wrong about. Without advisers, informants, special services, statistics and other governance structures, not only a dictator, but not a single country can resist the collapse.
                    2. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin April 4 2020 12: 37 New
                      -2
                      Quote: Irokez
                      That's exactly what you are wrong about

                      No. if he needs advisers, he is no longer a dictator, but a democrat
                      informants, special services, statistics and other management structures

                      So these are not advisers, but managers.
                      And why are you informers on this list? laughing
                    3. Irokez
                      Irokez April 4 2020 12: 39 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      No. if he needs advisers, he is no longer a dictator, but a democrat

                      In your opinion all the kings and kings were democrats?

                      As for the informers, this is somehow unpleasant, but secret employees (sexots) will probably be more pleasant. good
                    4. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin April 4 2020 14: 59 New
                      0
                      Quote: Irokez
                      In your opinion all the kings and kings were democrats?

                      And do you think all the dictators?
                      As for the informers, this is somehow unpleasant, but secret employees (sexots) will probably be more pleasant.

                      Yes, it’s not how to name them. The fact is why you put them at the head of the list and generally mentioned them
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 April 4 2020 14: 48 New
            +2
            This is often not required from advisors. Very often advisers are people who critically evaluate the policies of the authorities. True, their advice is optional.)
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin April 4 2020 14: 54 New
              0
              Quote: Sergej1972
              Very often advisers are people who critically evaluate the policies of the authorities.

              I don’t understand something.
              A dictator who suffers criticism and opposition?
              This is no longer a dictator and the country is not a dictatorship
              1. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 April 4 2020 14: 57 New
                0
                I do not mean dictatorship.
              2. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin April 4 2020 15: 01 New
                0
                Quote: Sergej1972
                I do not mean dictatorship.

                So we are talking about dictatorship
  • Sergey39
    Sergey39 April 4 2020 12: 16 New
    0
    The other day in Finland, an attempt to establish a dictatorship failed. There they called it a coup.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 April 4 2020 14: 49 New
      0
      Can you give more details? I missed something, probably there wasn’t anything in the news.
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 April 4 2020 16: 31 New
        0
        There was an article on Baltnews.
        https://lv.baltnews.com/mir_novosti/20200330/1023793593/Pokhozhe-na-ukrainskiy-stsenariy-kak-v-Finlyandii-razrazilsya-politicheskiy-krizis.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
  • Archon
    Archon April 5 2020 09: 55 New
    0
    my opinion is that a dictator will come down to rule a small country, but physically unable to rule in a huge powerful country. tying power to a mortal man is a dead end and a dangerous path that Russia has traveled many times. much more effective is a party - a community of people united by common ideas. strong court power is also required, capable of judging other branches of government if they violate the boundaries of what is permitted. the party is good in that, with proper organization, a new person will always take the place of the departed and continue the work.
  • Maki Avellevich
    Maki Avellevich April 4 2020 12: 31 New
    +4
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    People are waiting for an iron hand and order.

    Someone conducted a survey? Show the result please.
    Or did you spend it yourself?

    when there is a mess lyadi want order.
    order through debate in parliament cannot be established. So the Iron Hand appears on the scene.
    no opinion polls. spontaneously so.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 4 2020 12: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Maki Avellievich
      . spontaneously so.

      Aha.
      Something like this "spontaneously" organized the Maidan and the dictator came.
      Did the pinochet come to power in Chile at one time, too?
      More examples needed?
      1. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich April 4 2020 14: 55 New
        0
        Quote: Lipchanin
        More examples needed?

        No.
    2. Archon
      Archon April 5 2020 09: 56 New
      0
      if the hand has no money, nothing will work
  • Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert April 4 2020 14: 39 New
    +2
    Hungary, with its policies, demonstrates how the EU should behave in this difficult situation.
    Minimum Russophobia and maximum attention to their own problems.
    Dislike of Ukrainian neo-Nazis and frank dialogue with Russia.
    Sooner or later, EU policy will have to change.
    Unless, of course, he wants to survive ...
  • Private-K
    Private-K April 4 2020 16: 04 New
    0
    Why mention anything at all about such typical grant-eaters from typical organizations about “for an open society,” “for liberalism,” “for tolerance,” “for peerstia,” “for man-hating,” and other Sorosyatinovism?
    "Romanian" https://www.nhc.no/en/employee/csilla-czimbalmos/
  • Archon
    Archon April 5 2020 09: 23 New
    0
    rather, it is imperative that all institutions of power function normally. that's all
  • Red Alert
    Red Alert April 5 2020 10: 32 New
    0
    Do you suggest fascism?
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt April 4 2020 08: 35 New
    +4
    announced the formation of the first dictatorship in the European Union
    Here is a friendly European family. Come on, come on, orphan tears will pour out for you for the collapse of the USSR, now let's look at you, gentlemen Europeans. Eat your democracy and your "European values" with a bun.
    1. Evdokim
      Evdokim April 4 2020 09: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: orionvitt
      Here she is a friendly European family.

      In-in. Only someone leaned a little over the general homomass, pecking like a herd, but then going to the rear-wheel drive theater nizya. wassat tongue
  • Same lech
    Same lech April 4 2020 08: 38 New
    12
    The government has already put forward a number of resolutions under the new law, which have nothing to do with the fight against coronavirus.

    It’s not new ... a pandemic is very convenient for such things ... I’m now carefully following what is happening in the world in this regard starting from our country ... we will sum up the results of the pandemic ... it’s too early to draw conclusions.
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt April 4 2020 08: 48 New
      +5
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      it is too early to draw conclusions.

      Why then. Preliminary conclusions can be drawn now. One thing is extremely clear. That the information company amid the coronavirus, around the world, is guided by one strong hand. All world leaders have joined together (or are forced to join) in this game. And under this case, someone (you can call it whatever you like), with the same strong hand, is already reformatting the world order. In which direction and what will come of it, we will see. The old world is being flushed down the toilet, along with its political, ideological and economic problems, but what "new values" will be presented to us this time is not yet known. But what tells me that nothing good.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech April 4 2020 08: 51 New
        +4
        On April 1, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law expanding the rights of employees of the Federal Security Service (FSO) to use weapons and special means, and also granted them the right to use military equipment.

        smile
        http://realtribune.ru/news/authority/3979?utm_source=politobzor.net
        We are waiting for the next surprises.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt April 4 2020 08: 52 New
          +8
          What only confirms, enormous changes are coming.
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir April 4 2020 09: 26 New
          0
          Obviously, this decree is aimed at combating the virus.
          1. Mestny
            Mestny April 4 2020 11: 07 New
            +2
            To fight against alternatively gifted bloody clowns hungry for revolutions.
            Whatever it seems to them, now is the right moment.
      2. Irokez
        Irokez April 4 2020 11: 36 New
        +4
        Quote: orionvitt
        But that tells me that nothing good.

        But it tells me that for a better order and more equal in the world than for the exceptional.

        To fight against alternatively gifted bloody clowns hungry for revolutions.
        Whatever it seems to them, now is the right moment.

        And rightly so, power must withstand during muddy tremors.
    2. Polymer
      Polymer April 4 2020 08: 48 New
      +7
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      it is too early to draw conclusions.

      And then it will be "too late to drink Borjomi".
      Let's be honest - we are all just observers, without the ability to influence processes. And the conclusions - yes, we can draw conclusions.
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar April 4 2020 08: 46 New
    +7
    Many so-called "democratic countries" behave in a very totalitarian and even fascist manner during wars and cataclysms - Roosevelt drove the Japanese to concentration camps in 41-45, Switzerland insisted on the introduction of the letter J in German passports for Jews in order not to let them into their territory at 30 -e, etc.
    1. Pavel73
      Pavel73 April 4 2020 08: 57 New
      +7
      Exactly. In fact, no democracy exists. Power always and everywhere at all times only with those who have the strength and willingness to use it. And democracies from dictatorships differ only in that they are secret dictatorships. Nevertheless, democratic institutions and procedures are necessary as a means of feedback from the authorities and the people.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 4 2020 09: 13 New
        +1
        The Norwegian press announced the formation of the first dictatorship in the European Union


        And what about Lukashenka, rehabilitated, "zeroed", and appointed a new dictator? belay

        "The last dictator of Europe"doc film
        reg. Kalina Yuri, 2003 (Poland)
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets April 4 2020 09: 22 New
          +7
          Quote: Insurgent
          The Norwegian press announced the formation of the first dictatorship in the European Union


          And what about Lukashenka, rehabilitated, "zeroed", and appointed a new dictator? belay

          "The Last Dictator of Europe", documentary film
          reg. Kalina Yuri, 2003 (Poland)

          However, quarantine is not entered, people work, shortages of masks, etc. no, in supermarkets gloves and des. funds are freely available (free of charge), there is enough mechanical ventilation, he did not optimize hospitals, he does not enter troops into the cities. Although I do not live in Belarus, this is all from the official Belarusian media.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent April 4 2020 09: 51 New
            +3
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            However, quarantine is not entered, people work, shortages of masks, etc. no, in supermarkets gloves and des. funds are freely available (free of charge), there is enough mechanical ventilation, he did not optimize hospitals, he does not enter troops into the cities.

            I'm not quite about that ...

            More abouthow easy and at ease "European public opinion" glues and glues(if necessary) shortcuts "dictator" ...
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets April 4 2020 09: 57 New
              +4
              Quote: Insurgent
              I'm not quite about that ...
              Rather, about how easily "European public opinion" glues and re-sticks the labels of "dictator" ...

              In my opinion, "European public opinion" is the opinion of the ruling class, voiced through the venal mass media (and there are no others and cannot be, except perhaps some kind of YouTube channels, etc.). And they glue labels in the way that suits them at one time or another.
              1. Maki Avellevich
                Maki Avellevich April 5 2020 08: 40 New
                +1
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                In my opinion, "European public opinion" is the opinion of the ruling class, voiced through the corrupt media

                well it is everywhere.
      2. Gato
        Gato April 4 2020 10: 39 New
        +3
        feedback means of power and people

        Authorities prefer feedback in the form of taxes and other wool.
    2. Evil543
      Evil543 April 4 2020 09: 26 New
      0
      The author reflects on “violation of human rights in Hungary, including the rights of sexual minorities, the homeless and refugees”.

      And I liked this paragraph, these are the true indicators of the dictatorship, it turns out.
      How is it insulated?
      1. Hagalaz
        Hagalaz April 4 2020 09: 49 New
        0
        Quote: Evil543
        The author reflects on “violation of human rights in Hungary, including the rights of sexual minorities, the homeless and refugees”.

        "And animal husbandry ....." © A and B Strugatsky.
      2. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 April 4 2020 10: 07 New
        +3
        Quote: Evil543
        sexual minorities, homeless people and refugees

        The dream of all normal people: for "sexual minorities" to run away and bum somewhere far away ...
        1. Evil543
          Evil543 April 4 2020 10: 12 New
          +1
          I think this is only with us, the rest extol their tolerance.
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 April 4 2020 10: 21 New
            0
            Quote: Evil543
            I think this is only with us, the rest extol their tolerance.

            I think this is artificial injection. And the rest, the majority of people who are bewildered by such deeds howl.
    3. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich April 5 2020 08: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Many so-called "democratic countries" are very totalitarian


      during wars, all countries behave in a totalitarian and "fascist fashion." how else is it possible to wage war?
      each decision to display on the 1,2,3th reading and then another debate to arrange?
      at this time, a totalitarian and therefore more effective opponent in your capital will drink champagne.
      it doesn't work like that.
  • Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 April 4 2020 08: 48 New
    +8
    Do homeless people have any rights? They are deprived of the main human right to shelter for themselves and their children.
  • knn54
    knn54 April 4 2020 08: 48 New
    +2
    And why the first? He is the second, after Iceland, who sent the IMF with its loans.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 4 2020 08: 49 New
    +2
    A pandemic, or its "phantom", is an excellent reason for concentrating power ... As if the war is not won by democracy, or rather, the army is not controlled in democratic ways ... It remains to be understood - it is possible to HIDE the real state of affairs if the pandemic turns out to be an "information phantom"?
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  • askort154
    askort154 April 4 2020 08: 51 New
    +9
    If no one exerts pressure on Hungary from outside, then in the end a full-fledged dictatorship will form in the center of Europe

    Afraid that same-sex marriage will be banned, parent # 1 and # 2, free drug sales, Schengen will be canceled, and Europe will return to the good old days.
    Something of your "main democrat of Brussels" is not visible and inaudible at all while the coronavirus is dominating the EU. Where are your "super-democrats - PACE"?
    Where are the Greens? You always liked to teach the life of others, and did not notice how you yourself were head over heels in the "democratic slop". Swim in them further.
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  • Chervonny
    Chervonny April 4 2020 09: 12 New
    17
    about the appearance of the first dictatorship in the vastness of the European Union.

    controversial, very controversial.
    all of Europe is one continuous dictatorship of neoliberalism. European "democracy" will be worse than any other dictatorship.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech April 4 2020 09: 19 New
      +8
      sheer dictatorship of neoliberalism

      In Europe, you can now easily delay the term for disagreeing with the LGBT terror over normal people and family in our understanding ... there is a total reformatting of society.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 4 2020 10: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        there is a total reformatting of society.

        There is a destruction of the planet's population by any means available. Everything was launched, armies, terrorists, the media, LGBT people, justice, courts, the latest weapons, including biological weapons. Simple people can’t fight them.
  • Kerensky
    Kerensky April 4 2020 10: 03 New
    0
    Well, the voice from Norway for Hungary? It's interesting, of course, but ... Maybe they just have nothing to write about (the country is calm), the client wants "politicians" ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 4 2020 10: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: Kerensky
      Maybe they just have nothing to write about (a calm country),

      But occasionally terrorists like Anders Breivik appear, with whom even ISIS and Bandera fade.
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky April 4 2020 10: 45 New
        0
        But sometimes terrorists like Anders Breivik appear,

        Vlad.
        Well, they cannot "feed" journalists and experts of all stripes!
        Well, they wrote that they brutally mistreat him, - they did not provide a new game console. So how many years ago it was!
        Well halibut Russian submarine scared (and who else) in their fjord .... he is now nervous. So now when else will it be?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine April 4 2020 12: 29 New
          +3
          Quote: Kerensky
          Well, they wrote that they brutally mistreat him, - they did not provide a new game console.

          Breivik lives better in prison than Norwegian pensioners
          The whole time he will live in a well-guarded building, with views of the city without bars. In a three-room "cell" with an office, a computer, a TV set, a gym and a swimming pool ... and even under the supervision of doctors.
          I am an Estonian pensioner living much worse than Breivik.
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 4 2020 10: 05 New
    -1
    Zilla Chimbalmos

    Moreover, apparently - 100% Norwegian, so also with a very long nose. Where is Norway and where is Hungary?
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine April 4 2020 10: 22 New
    +3
    The Hungarian parliament recently passed a crisis law giving the head of government enhanced authority to fight the coronavirus.
    This is how Euro-cracks think. They are indifferent to pandemics, deaths, thousands and millions of people, as long as there is no totalitarianism for them. Democracy is above all, forgetting about the main democrat of the 20th century, Adolf, who, under the slogan of the democrats "New World Order", killed millions of people. And how do the current democrats differ from him?

    Do you recognize the child in the top row?
  • Old partisan
    Old partisan April 4 2020 10: 38 New
    0
    Two fire in a brothel during a flood.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 4 2020 10: 54 New
    +2
    Even in a difficult period for themselves, they are trying to settle scores with those who, let's say more mildly, do not want to completely fall into European insanity. Orban has long been sharpening their teeth for unwillingness to surrender to the power of sexual minorities, for rebuffing migrants, whom Merkel invited out of the "breadth of heart", for defending the national interests of her country.
    Zilla Chimbalmos
    A strange Norwegian, but probably very committed to the "democratic and tolerant" ideas of the EU, which are growing into sectarianism.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov April 4 2020 11: 07 New
    -1
    Zilla Chimbalmos ...
    It’s strange. Did Google find out about it only through topwar.ru?
    It seems to be a fake.
    1. sgapich
      sgapich April 6 2020 11: 46 New
      0
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Zilla Chimbalmos ...
      It’s strange. Did Google find out about it only through topwar.ru?
      It seems to be a fake.

      Here is the original article on the Aftenposten website (Norwegian, unfortunately I don’t know, Google translator helped):
      https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kronikk/i/0nyvr0/etter-koronakrisen-kan-ungarn-ha-blitt-eus-foerste-diktatur-csilla-czimbalmos
      And here is the page of this Zilla Chimbalmos on the site of the Norwegian Helsinki Committee, and her mail is indicated there, you can write:
      https://www.nhc.no/en/employee/csilla-czimbalmos/
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov April 6 2020 13: 04 New
        0
        Quote: sgapich
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Zilla Chimbalmos ...
        It’s strange. Did Google find out about it only through topwar.ru?
        It seems to be a fake.

        Here is the original article on the Aftenposten website (Norwegian, unfortunately I don’t know, Google translator helped):
        https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kronikk/i/0nyvr0/etter-koronakrisen-kan-ungarn-ha-blitt-eus-foerste-diktatur-csilla-czimbalmos
        And here is the page of this Zilla Chimbalmos on the site of the Norwegian Helsinki Committee, and her mail is indicated there, you can write:
        https://www.nhc.no/en/employee/csilla-czimbalmos/

        If you just go down the page, you will see my post from April 4, 2020 16:17.
        But in any case, Stanislav, thank you. hi drinks
        1. sgapich
          sgapich April 6 2020 16: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: A. Privalov
          If you just go down the page, you will see my post from April 4, 2020 16:17.
          But in any case, Stanislav, thank you. hi drinks

          Alexander, I already noticed. hi Sorry, hurry up.
  • Bshkaus
    Bshkaus April 4 2020 11: 14 New
    0
    The author believes that the ban on visiting theaters and the suspension of the development of park zones in Hungary is an “abuse”

    Any look at the situation can be:
    A - objective based on the ongoing relationship of events.
    B- extreme either to one or the other side from the objective point of view.
    B- border views on the brink of extremes, with possible transitions back and forth.
    It is encouraging that there are not so many people in extremes.
    If a young lady wants to walk and show freedom of speech, the flag in her hands will die, they will bury it in a bag and forget it.
    Well, maybe they will write on the monument "she loved freedom."
    But seriously, natural selection and evolution occurs during crises. In extreme conditions, "complete freedom" is not viable, if only for banal reasons: going out into the street you can get infected and die in the nearest ditch.
    In the wild, even lions and other predators not only attack, but also know how to hide in time. Who did not have time - feeds the worms.
  • AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. April 4 2020 11: 29 New
    -1
    To overcome emergency situations (war, epidemic, natural disasters), dictatorship is more effective than democracy. For a peaceful life - on the contrary.
  • faterdom
    faterdom April 4 2020 11: 47 New
    +1
    Scandinavian bandits criticize Ugric nomads for lack of democracy.
    But the descendants of the Norman and Anglo-Saxon bandit barons lead the process ...
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 4 2020 12: 08 New
    +1
    The Hungarian parliament recently passed a crisis law giving the head of government enhanced authority to fight the coronavirus.
    And it is right. If you are responsible for the situation in the country, then you must make decisions, and not ask permission from those who never answer for anything.
  • AB
    AB April 4 2020 12: 55 New
    0
    Geyropa ... How everyone loves the opposition in foreign countries, how they care about it!
  • dvornic
    dvornic April 4 2020 13: 16 New
    +1
    A member of the Helsinki group, this says a lot. Along the way, there gathered from all countries.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor April 4 2020 13: 51 New
    0
    In the rotten west, rotten capitalism always rules, under the guise of democracy, under the guise of the fascist dictatorship of the Reich, under the guise of the metropolises, there is always the same dirt in different forms.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov April 4 2020 16: 17 New
    -1
    He was not too lazy and looked at a source in the Norwegian publication Aftenposten.
    The author of the article is the head of the Department of Central and Eastern Europe of the Norwegian Helsinki Committee, a not-so-stupid young lady. Chilla was born in Romania, has experience as a researcher in the field of political sciences.
    She has a bachelor's degree in pedagogy, literature and languages ​​in Sibiu, Romania, and a master's degree in philosophy in the study of peace and conflict at the University of Oslo, Norway.



    By the way, the translation that was made for VO is not entirely accurate:

    The author believes that the ban on visiting theaters and the suspension of the development of park zones in Hungary is “abuse”. As if in other European countries no such measures were taken.


    Now compare with the text in Aftenposten:

    The law was passed on Monday this week, but the deputy prime minister has already put forward a series of decisions that have nothing to do with coronavirus. One of the proposals strengthens state control and supervision of all theaters.

    Another cancels the decision of the Budapest City Council to stop the development of the urban park zone. This has long been a controversial development project under the auspices of the Orbán government, which the population of the city does not want and which the Budapest City Council put an end to. So now it's the other way around because of the crisis law.

    The difference is visible even with the naked eye.
    For those interested in:
    https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kronikk/i/0nyvr0/etter-koronakrisen-kan-ungarn-ha-blitt-eus-foerste-diktatur-csilla-czimbalmos
    Google translator to help you.
    A number of her statements will certainly cause rejection of some visitors to VO, but there are also quite sound thoughts.
    Well, and knowing who Orban is, how he arranges his friends and classmates to warm places, his methods of government with the alteration of laws to allow him to remain in office until 2030, you can assume anything.
  • PavelT
    PavelT April 4 2020 16: 36 New
    -1
    What strikes me is the desire of modern left-liberals to put the interests of strangers or small groups against the interests of the majority of the population! They don’t know at all that democracy implies the power of MOST - they vote in order to calculate what the majority is for! For this, electoral refugees and migrants who have not come give rights (before obtaining citizenship) - because these are alien groups and alien interests.
    As a mantra is repeated: "the rights of sexual minorities, homeless people and refugees" - the homeless obviously got here by accident ... But there are few sexual minorities (that's why they are minorities!), in the UN) - by definition they cannot put their rights ahead of the rights of the majority of the country.
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich April 5 2020 08: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: PavelT
      What strikes me is the desire of modern left-liberals to put the interests of strangers or small groups against the interests of the majority of the population!

      by this they are self-determined. stop doing these nonsense; lose the meaning of their life.
  • dedusik
    dedusik April 4 2020 16: 51 New
    0
    What do they smoke there, or maybe they inject? tongue
  • LeonidL
    LeonidL April 4 2020 18: 23 New
    +1
    Democracy is the power of the people, in the name of the people and for the benefit of the people - if the people of Hungary supported what happened there, then to this people in accordance with the potuli of that very democracy it is better to know how to live and who will lead it. Budapest is probably closer and more understandable to the Hungarians than Brussels? Is not it?
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey April 4 2020 19: 00 New
    0
    the whole EU is spiders in a bank, London has already held a demonstration for a long time, it’s strange of course - The coronovirus was not made the newcomer.
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey April 4 2020 19: 06 New
    0
    Quote: PavelT
    What strikes me is the desire of modern left-liberals to put the interests of strangers or small groups against the interests of the majority of the population! They don’t know at all that democracy implies the power of MOST - they vote in order to calculate what the majority is for! For this, electoral refugees and migrants who have not come give rights (before obtaining citizenship) - because these are alien groups and alien interests.
    As a mantra is repeated: "the rights of sexual minorities, homeless people and refugees" - the homeless obviously got here by accident ... But there are few sexual minorities (that's why they are minorities!), in the UN) - by definition they cannot put their rights ahead of the rights of the majority of the country.

    you don’t know history well, remember 1905 (failure), and then 1917 (the revolution was not even in October), I only speak about my homeland, remember the rules of the revolution, and democracy never exists in nature anywhere else!
  • vonWolfenstein
    vonWolfenstein April 4 2020 19: 20 New
    0
    The parliamentary republics are easier to govern from a position of external government. The role of the politician as a leader and personality is reduced. The information background, the mainstream, set by the media, forms the necessary reflexes of the electorate. Decisions undesirable to the owners can be rejected by the majority of "correct" deputies. And Europe, both Eastern and Western, now desperately needs true national, people's leaders capable of protecting the vital interests of the people, in particular the titular nation
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 4 2020 21: 02 New
    -1
    Between the first and second ....
  • Red Alert
    Red Alert April 5 2020 10: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    There is no sense in democracies. People are waiting for an iron hand and order.

    European democracy has shown itself against the backdrop of coronovirus.

    Do you suggest fascism?
  • PavelT
    PavelT April 12 2020 22: 52 New
    0
    Quote: lvov_aleksey
    and democracy never exists in nature anywhere else!

    Nonsense, democracy is not a sacred cow, it is just a way to determine decisions in society:
    1. determined who is a citizen with the right to vote,
    2. put forward candidates for elections / proposals in a referendum,
    3. voted
    4. counted - understood what exactly the majority of voters.
    Nothing super super holy or great, just a method of choosing a solution / candidacy.
    I worked in Ancient Greece, in Ancient Rome, In the Novgorod Republic, in Switzerland ... and then someone too smart and spiritual comes, says: "Ahhh! Doesn’t work anywhere! All lies!"- yes, this is a strong level of argumentation ... I'm just smitten :)