Pozner spoke about the nature of anti-Americanism and the “inferiority complex” of Russia before the West


Well-known TV presenter Vladimir Pozner gave an interview, the words expressed in which caused a wide resonance. The interview is published on the Pozner Online website. The presenter decided to reflect on the "inferiority complex" of Russia in front of the Western world.


Posner draws his conclusions, based on the fact that at one time in the Russian Empire, elites preferred to speak French among themselves. According to Mr. Posner, the inferiority complex was the prerogative of the higher circles.

From the interview:

Why was French the most important language at the time of Pushkin? Why was it in French that one should speak, correspond, and not in Russian? The French, for example, did not enter into a conversation, say, in English. This feeling that they are looking down at us is not very recognized, it’s a long-standing история.

Posner further states that it is the inferiority complex that leads to the “externally manifested sense of superiority”.

At the same time, Vladimir Pozner noted the credulity of citizens before the West when the Soviet Union ceased to exist. The presenter noted that then they decided that the West was ready to receive us with open arms, that there would be no further expansion of NATO in the east. But, as Posner says, "it became clear that they would not accept anyway."

According to Posner, this ultimately led to the development of distrust of the United States, a sense of anti-Americanism.

It turns out that Posner himself opposes Russia and the West, trying to relate himself without fail to one to the detriment of the other. Interestingly, in such a situation, Mr. Posner experiences an inferiority complex or does he believe that an inferiority complex is experienced before him? ..
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  1. Doccor18 April 4 2020 06: 40 New
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    I am proud to be Russian! I don’t know what kind of complex there is.
    1. Lipchanin April 4 2020 06: 55 New
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      Quote: Doccor18
      I am proud to be Russian!

      Totally agree hi
      1. AnpeL April 4 2020 07: 05 New
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        Unfortunately Posner is right. I’m right that our so-called elites have always behaved, are behaving and, most likely, will behave precisely as minions of the West. Apparently not realizing that they themselves will never be their own for this West, they will do everything possible to please foreign interests, which, as a rule, run counter to national interests.
        1. Mitroha April 4 2020 07: 11 New
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          Posner is a malicious catophobe, like all the majority of our "intelligentsia" living at the expense of this country and its people, but at the same time considering themselves obligated to spit everything around and call everyone "cattle" that interfere with their lights, bear worship of the Western model of life to the gray masses
          1. Lopatov April 4 2020 08: 18 New
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            Quote: Mitroha
            Pozner is a malicious Russophobe, like the rest of our "intelligentsia"

            And his Russophobia is the result of the very "inferiority complex"
            Plus an easily detectable messianic complex. Vaccinated to him during the disaster and the collapse of the USSR. They have long ceased to believe every word of him, but he did not notice it
            1. Lelek April 4 2020 11: 53 New
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              Quote: Spade
              Lopatov

              hi
              In one thing, he is right, the “West” will always perceive us (Russia) as second-rate. Here is the last example with the same Italy - they did a good deed, sent help, threw the beads to the swine and we were spit on for this under the sauce of media information protection. Not to mention the manifestations of a "satire of humor" in the American media about the same help from Russia. So the question arises in a moment tragic for the world - do we need to bend over this world or "let the world bend under us"?
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                1. Tatyana April 4 2020 12: 35 New
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                  I was abroad and do not think myself Russian! On the contrary, I am proud that I am Russian.
                  What nationality I was born to, such a homeland and came in handy.
                  I respect representatives of other nationalities too, if they deserve it.
                  My relatives are multinational.
                  1. iouris April 4 2020 16: 21 New
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                    Quote: Tatiana
                    I was abroad and I don’t think of myself as a Russian! ... I respect representatives of other nationalities too, if they deserve it.

                    If you are Russian, then this is fate. Even if you "think".
                    And who are you by nationality?
                    1. Tatyana April 4 2020 16: 27 New
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                      I am Russian by nationality.
                      1. iouris April 4 2020 16: 49 New
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                        It is obvious.
                        It is impossible to explain why trying to "think yourself not Russian"? This cannot be changed. It is possible and important to strive to adequately represent your people in communication and in relations with (worthy) representatives of other peoples, to avoid communication with unworthy representatives of their own and other peoples.
                      2. Tatyana April 4 2020 17: 22 New
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                        Quote: iouris
                        It is impossible to explain why trying to "think yourself not Russian"? This cannot be changed.

                        Unfortunately, it was necessary to observe our compatriots abroad who would like to stay living abroad.
                      3. iouris April 4 2020 22: 50 New
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                        Observing you, I come to the conclusion that you would like to stay abroad. To do this, you just need to rob compatriots. But it is not a fact that money will not be taken abroad.
                      4. Tatyana April 4 2020 22: 59 New
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                        Quote: iouris
                        Observing you, I come to the conclusion that you would like to stay abroad.

                        Something you turned the meaning of my comments upside down!
                        I don’t need a foreign country for free! There is nothing good there! At home, 100 times better!

                        Read my comments carefully and do not compose all kinds of indecent nonsense about me!
                      5. iouris April 5 2020 00: 37 New
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                        Quote: Tatiana
                        I don’t need a foreign country for free! There is nothing good there! At home, 100 times better!

                        I do not compose anything, I am your psychoanalyst.
                        Firstly, there is good.
                        Secondly, you travel abroad (and not for nothing) and not in order to watch how compatriots suffer there.
                        Thirdly, why do you think that home is only 100 times better, and, for example, not 1000? You might think that you are not patriotic enough.
                    2. Lelek April 5 2020 18: 39 New
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                      Quote: iouris
                      Watching you, I come to the conclusion


                      Something is wrong with your Rubik's Cube - it doesn’t add up.
      2. boris epstein April 5 2020 16: 01 New
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        To some extent, you are right, but Russia does not help from sagging, but from a wide soul, willingness to share with the afflicted. But the West cannot understand this because of its commercialism.
    2. bukhach April 4 2020 14: 26 New
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      Where did you see Russophobia here? What did he say wrongly about the Russian elite of past times and present? You really separate the right word from flies from cutlets.
  2. mole April 4 2020 08: 40 New
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    The reptile feels the onset of a bad time for us. So I decided to remind myself of those who want to take advantage of this period in their interests. So to speak, to sell yourself beloved more expensive. Vile!
  3. den3080 April 4 2020 08: 59 New
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    Quote: Mitroha
    Posner is a malicious catophobe, like all the majority of our "intelligentsia" living at the expense of this country and its people, but at the same time considering themselves obligated to spit everything around and call everyone "cattle" that interfere with their lights, bear worship of the Western model of life to the gray masses

    Posner must be deported to Ukraine. Take to the border crossing and put on foot.
    1. 4ekist April 4 2020 10: 49 New
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      We are full of such "artists of colloquial genre", "thinkers" and "defenders of democracy" with double, triple citizenship. What homeland do they work for?
      1. ccsr April 4 2020 11: 32 New
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        Quote: 4ekist
        What homeland do they work for?

        They do not have a homeland - they only have a thirst to earn more, without disdaining any means, and envy of the oligarchs, whom he serves, and at the same time hates for their wealth. It is from here that the duplicity of this infamous type is born, which under the guise of a "thinker" hides the evil inside of the loser. After all, he was not an ordinary Soviet citizen, but apparently envy moved him so that he always wanted to become higher than what he deserved in the USSR. Well, after the collapse of the country, when a bummer came out for him, and he did not become an oligarch, he only needs to pour out bile about our inferiority, although it is clear how false all his conclusions are.
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        1. 4ekist April 4 2020 13: 46 New
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          I will answer my question: they work in their own pocket and they do not care deeply what is happening around. Here they earn, and live abroad, in greenhouse conditions. Moreover, I see "ultra-right" and "ultra-left", they keep people in suspense and all this nonsense is pouring from all the media. The only things that can be watched are the Culture channel, Fishing Dialogues and OTR (public television), which shows the life of the Russian province (without rumors of representatives of the British crown, craggy divas, various metropolitan "things" and other vulgarities).
  4. Malyuta April 4 2020 09: 10 New
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    Quote: Mitroha
    Pozner is a malicious catophobia, like the whole majority of our "intelligentsia" living at the expense of this country and its people, but at the same time considering themselves obliged to spit everything around and call everyone "cattle" that interfere with their lights, to worship the Western model of life in gray masses

    You don’t have to invent anything, you’ll be a regular agent of influence or, in Russian, a spy, perhaps 33 times turned over.
    There is no need for any conspiracy theories Posner was "red", was a "shit", was a "Zaputin", "anti-Rutin", "pro-Russian" and "Russophobe", he will be any-the task is the task.
    1. Insurgent April 4 2020 12: 58 New
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      Quote: Malyuta
      Posner was “red”, was “shit”, was “zaputinets”, “anti-rutinians”, “pro-Russian” and “Russophobe”, he will be any-the task is the task.

      yes yes yes

  5. RUSS April 4 2020 10: 08 New
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    Quote: Mitroha
    living at the expense of this country and its people,

    Why is Posner living at the expense of our country? Is he that state employee? Posner is a businessman, writer and presenter, earns himself, but most officials are parasites living at our expense.
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      1. RUSS April 4 2020 14: 14 New
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        Quote: Mobius
        He is paid for Russophobia

        Who pays that? Who is the customer?
  6. 4ekist April 4 2020 14: 30 New
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    I don’t perceive Posner's nonsense at all, let him bring him down to the USA.
    1. RUSS April 4 2020 15: 59 New
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      Quote: 4ekist
      I don’t perceive Posner's nonsense at all, let him bring him down to the USA.

      And where to bring down Kiselev and Soloviev?
      1. 4ekist April 4 2020 16: 52 New
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        And all ?, the list of colloquial artists can be continued for a long time.
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    3. Procyon lotor April 5 2020 20: 50 New
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      Yes, right. And not only him but all intellectuals who are dissenters. Dugin can only be left. He is a real Russian man. And others like that, wagging their tongues and presenting imperial ambitions.
  7. Den717 April 4 2020 21: 12 New
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    Quote: Mitroha
    Posner is a malicious catophobia, like the whole majority of our "intelligentsia" living at the expense of this country and its people

    Posner was born, raised, passed the stage of initial education and self-awareness not in the USSR, but in the USA and France. Why would he suddenly become a native Russia, such as me or those who were born here? He is an outsider here, so he sees and behaves in this life in this way. At the same time, he never hid this, which partly causes respect. He is not ours .... What do we want from him?
    Quote: Mitroha
    while considering herself obligated to spit everything around and call everyone "cattle",

    Well, yes, he has this point of view. But you all read it, read it, so it was interesting to you. If he had not been read, he would not have received here the content that holds him within our borders. So what is he wrong with? It is interesting in this case, it seems to me, that a lot of those who live in the West, but do not print in magazines and write books, also look at us. What he tells us about us, the average native of the West thinks. In some ways he may not be quite right, but it happened, and it would be useful for us to know what is born in the head of an average Parisian at the word "Russia".
  • Olgovich April 4 2020 07: 36 New
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    Quote: AnpeL
    Unfortunately Posner is right.

    This ignoramus has long lost the right to judge us, the aesthetic senile is so disgraced, so Myself carvedthat should have disappeared long ago:
    Posner: "So I don’t know whether the gentlemen thought the Duma, whether the writers have heard of such Saltykov-Shchedrin... But, in general, I would advise them to read ... Especially the story about a non-commissioned officer widow who herself carved ... "
    fool lol laughing

    We then taught at the school "Examiner" GOGOL and this one "knows" the Examiner .... Shchedrin! lol
  • The leader of the Redskins April 4 2020 08: 14 New
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    Once upon a time, about 150 years ago, Russian surnames in international circles were well-known to everyone ... The same Demidovs. They were not simply reckoned with. They leveled at them, they tried to compete with them.
    And the current nouveau riche ... They stole millions / billions and think they will be taken for their own?
    1. tatra April 4 2020 08: 47 New
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      Well, yes, the rich and noble parasites in the Russian Empire are praised by those who captured the USSR, plundered it, ruined all sectors of the country, robbed the people.
      1. Dart2027 April 4 2020 09: 01 New
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        Quote: tatra
        Namely those who captured the USSR, plundered it, ditched all sectors of the country, robbed the people

        Do you mean the Communist Party and its members (Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Yakovlev, Shevarnadze, etc.)?
        1. tatra April 4 2020 09: 07 New
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          The ideology of those who captured the USSR in their anti-Soviet Perestroika, and declared the rich and noble parasites on the neck of the people in the Russian Empire "the gene pool and the color of the nation, the best, the most working, the salt and sugar of the earth" is "and what have we to do with it? and nothing to do with what we did. "
          1. Dart2027 April 4 2020 11: 08 New
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            Quote: tatra
            The ideology of the USSR captured in their anti-Soviet Perestroika, and announced

            That is, the leadership of the communist party.
            1. tatra April 4 2020 11: 19 New
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              It is useless to expect from those who have captured the USSR not only a hint of conscience, but even elementary logic and common sense. The Communists could not take the USSR, because they already created and owned it. Despite the fact that the enemies of the Communists really do not like to discuss themselves, and what they did, they still proved everything about themselves and told, in particular, that they had captured the USSR for criminal purposes, because if they had captured it with good goals, for the good of the country and the people, they would never begin to cowardly blame the responsibility for their capture of the USSR on others.
              1. Dart2027 April 4 2020 12: 38 New
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                Quote: tatra
                It is useless to expect from those who have captured the USSR not only a hint of conscience, but even elementary logic and common sense. The Communists could not take the USSR, because they already created and owned it.

                In this case, your logic is not very clear to me.
                Some enemies that seized the USSR and ruined it, despite the fact that its collapse was carried out by its own leadership - how is it?
                1. tatra April 4 2020 12: 50 New
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                  The leadership of the USSR could NOT be against the USSR. Against the USSR in the USSR there were and are only traitors, criminals, worthless parasites, enemies of their country and people.
                2. Dart2027 April 4 2020 14: 04 New
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                  Quote: tatra
                  The leadership of the USSR could NOT be against the USSR

                  And then who is Gorbachev?
                3. 4ekist April 4 2020 16: 55 New
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                  You yourself know perfectly well who he is.
                4. Dart2027 April 4 2020 17: 11 New
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                  Quote: 4ekist
                  you know who he is

                  General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee.
                5. 4ekist April 4 2020 17: 21 New
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                  I will refrain from commenting and what I think about this “activist”. Now is the time of fasting.
                6. Dart2027 April 4 2020 19: 32 New
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                  Quote: 4ekist
                  what I think about this "figure"

                  Do you think I'm delighted with him? Not at all. But the USSR was not destroyed by some "enemies that captured it", but by the Communist Party itself. It is a fact.
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                  Absolutely.
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                  In that form, the USSR was doomed, because the power carried a germ of degeneration.
        2. Procyon lotor April 5 2020 20: 53 New
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          tatra striking example of cognitive dissonance
  • Sergey S. April 4 2020 09: 35 New
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    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    The same Demidovs. They were not simply reckoned with. They leveled at them, they tried to compete with them.

    It happened in different ways.
    That's just from the empire of the Demidovs there was no trace ...
    Granddaughter in the guard wanted to serve, and squandered ...

    As for Posner, he is not a fighter.
    And so the subject of reptiles is clear to him.
    And the ideal of serving the Motherland is for him something incomprehensible.
  • nickname7 April 4 2020 08: 22 New
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    I’m right that our so-called elites have always behaved, are behaving and, most likely, will behave precisely as minions of the West

    Here, apparently, it depends on the genesis, or the origin of the country, the colonies that were able to throw off the metropolis got immunity, they have a fear and extreme intolerance to fall under the influence of others, and this is the mentality of the elites. For example, India or the same former colony, the states will not tolerate being pushed around. To receive money from another state is a disgrace and a felony for a US politician. I remember Kasyanov was running for president, so he went to Germany and asked Merkel for support and more sanctions for the Russian Federation. To take on obligations from a third country to the president, some kind of surrealism ...
  • corrado April 4 2020 08: 56 New
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    Absolutely right! But not only our elite behaves contrary to national pride. Ordinary people, after the collapse of the USSR, raved about Western values, and everyone, probably, dreamed of quickly dumping, the cinema and the stage of those years helps to remember. And if I recall that every kid in the yard was dragging a cap with the inscription "USA California" on his head, then it all becomes terribly terrible. But this is a reality that unfortunately is quickly forgotten.
    1. tihonmarine April 4 2020 10: 05 New
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      Quote: corrado
      Ordinary people, after the collapse of the USSR, raved about Western values, and everyone, probably, dreamed of quickly dumping, the cinema and the stage of those years helps to remember.

      I also always remember the film about the sailor Shchvandyu, where he said "Let Dunku to Europe." You can only dream in childhood, and when you grow up, you understand that life is a picture in a primer. In America, a small number of the local population remained, in the state of New Mexico, there were many Mexicans, but most of them remained poor and not needed. Negroes, Latinos and all immigrants from the socialist countries are only slaves, servants or chain dogs. But our people thought (as "404 people now think") that in the west and in the camp of dreams they would be accepted as relatives with kisses and outstretched hands. But in fact, a “cookie from Nuland”, “Kalash” in the hands and to the front, girls on the panel.
  • To be or not to be April 4 2020 09: 34 New
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    Have they ever been "ours" in history ... elites ???
    According to Pozner, nevertheless he sits in Moscow .. Here is all their wretchedness .. and rottenness. ..
    1. Lelek April 4 2020 12: 00 New
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      Quote: To be or not to be
      Have they ever been "ours" in history ... elites ???

      hi
      The bastard Brzezinski answered your question:
      1. Sergej1972 April 4 2020 15: 01 New
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        Zbigniew (not sbignev) Brzezinski. But is this quote fake? I do not know. But at least the phrases attributed to Thatcher or Madeleine Albright turned out to be fakes.
  • tihonmarine April 4 2020 09: 50 New
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    Quote: AnpeL
    Unfortunately Posner is right. I’m right that our so-called elites have always behaved, are behaving and, most likely, will behave precisely as minions of the West.
    Why was French the most important language at the time of Pushkin? Why was it in French that one should speak, correspond, and not in Russian? You answered "Minions of the West" correctly. Therefore, they were even embarrassed to speak Russian. Even all this "elite" even speaking Russian, which the Russian people did not understand, we had other languages. Russophobes, liberals and God-chosen Posners still do not understand why the people in 1917 supported exactly the Bolsheviks, and arranged the "Red Terror" for all this elite.
    1. 4ekist April 4 2020 13: 52 New
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      We have always and at all times between the common people and the so-called elite there was and is a huge gulf.
      1. tihonmarine April 4 2020 14: 55 New
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        Quote: 4ekist
        We have always and at all times between the common people and the so-called elite there was and is a huge gulf.

        It seems that the language is the same, but we do not understand this elite, and even hate it.
  • Artunis April 4 2020 12: 33 New
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    Hence the simple conclusion - the elites must be changed, and the sooner the better.
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    Quote: AnpeL
    Unfortunately Posner is right.

    Unfortunately you and Pozdner are wrong. Regarding you, what is the matter here I do not know. But Pozdner is cunning, and maybe even frankly lying, pulling an owl on the globe, because I won’t believe that he has such a disgusting education, if he ascribes the passion to speak a foreign language, only to the Russian elite from the time of Pushkin. In fact, it was already difficult for the elites from the time of Yaroslav the Wise to track which language was more familiar to them. For example, you try to track which native language some Gatsburgs of the Holy Roman Empire have. Or take a textbook example with Richard the Lionheart squeaking verses, attention - IN FRENCH! Which, according to Pozdner, he should not have come to mind. What, Pozdner did not know that Richard wrote poetry in French? I knew. It turns out lying? Yes. He deliberately lies, trying in this way to lay inferiority in our heads.
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    And Pіzdner whose servant? Who is less than chobot?
  • aybolyt678 April 4 2020 08: 19 New
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    For some reason, for me, the Russians are inseparable from the Soviet. I think I'm not alone.
    1. rich April 4 2020 08: 37 New
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      Pozner spoke about the "inferiority complex" of Russia before the West

      Whose cow would mumble, and whose would be silent yes Posner - a person with triple citizenship has absolutely nothing to do with Russia. Here he is just a guest worker. But is he needed here? This question has already been raised by State Duma deputies.
      more details -https: //www.interfax.ru/russia/283187.
    2. tatra April 4 2020 08: 50 New
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      And these are axioms that anti-Sovietism is always equal to Russophobia, and the West for the past 100 years has been and is not only anti-Soviet, but also Russophobic, and the enemies of the USSR that captured the republics of the USSR began to destroy not only Soviet, but also Russian, including, and in Russia, and to impose foreignism.
    3. den3080 April 4 2020 09: 05 New
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      Quote: aybolyt678
      For some reason, for me, the Russians are inseparable from the Soviet. I think I'm not alone.

      Russians in the West consider all immigrants from the USSR. Be you Azerbaijani, Georgian, Kyrgyz, Belarusian or Ukrainian.
      30 years have passed since the collapse of the USSR, and they think so.

      So you are not alone, almost the whole world is with you :), with the exception of those few who want to divide and rule at any cost, tearing their own ass on the fascist cross ...
    4. To be or not to be April 4 2020 09: 52 New
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      Excuse me. But by introducing the concept of “Soviet people” during the second Ilyich (even I didn’t make up his mind to Stalin) and “Russian” (Boris Yeltsin in circulation: “The Russians” .. And to Stalin in 1941: ““ Comrades! Citizens! Brothers and sisters! .. ") isn’t this a belittling of the huge population of Russia of Russian nationality .. ???
      The Russian people (according to the oversight of the latter in the Russian Federation makes up 82% of the country's population) It is the backbone of its state, on which other nations and nationalities with their national culture and religion are attached. mores and customs, are preserved at the turns of history, flourish and develop ..
      In the unity of peoples, the power of the state ...
      ..
      1. Sergej1972 April 4 2020 15: 02 New
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        In the first decades of the existence of the USSR, they preferred to say "nations and nationalities of the USSR" or simply "peoples of the USSR."
    5. tihonmarine April 4 2020 09: 52 New
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      Quote: aybolyt678
      For some reason, for me, the Russians are inseparable from the Soviet. I think I'm not alone.

      Because we hate these Russophobes, the elite, God's chosen partners, as our great-grandfathers, grandfathers and fathers hated them.
    6. Beringovsky April 4 2020 10: 40 New
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      Not alone lol
      Apparently not in the know how in Russia people relate to the former "fraternal" peoples and what epithets they reward.
    7. AU Ivanov. April 4 2020 11: 36 New
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      That is, there were no Russians before the scoop? Who, then, took Napoleon to the house?
    8. Artunis April 4 2020 12: 34 New
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      And you, sorry for the question - whose will you be?
    9. 4ekist April 4 2020 14: 06 New
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      And you remember how these Soviet burned churches of the Russian Orthodox Church, suppressed peasant unrest, then the repression of the 30s. And in Soviet times, we remembered Russians last. All drove to the fraternal republics and to help the peoples of Africa.
  • Crimean partisan 1974 April 4 2020 08: 56 New
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    foster father Sergey Batkovich, although the Khazark’s mother is a grandfather from the Bryansk region, I want to drive her to her historical homeland in the near future
  • Alexander Sosnitsky April 4 2020 08: 57 New
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    I think that this is, on the contrary, a complex of usefulness. Russian is not afraid of anyone and lives for himself and not for anyone. And if for someone, then to help him. Therefore, this is a great nation. Russian is a state of mind. No one can be compared with him. In all nations, there is good, but Russian. There is a war in the world with them to break them down and turn them into r, but this is impossible. Russians occupy their important place in the world, uncomfortable for someone with their problems, but they must be taken as they are. I’m generally disgusted when people are poorly spoken about. As the classics wrote, people are not bad. The Russians have everything in their hearts, and not the best, but only GOD is deal, and we are people. It’s necessary to abandon the Russian obscenities, it’s someone’s special propaganda, and it’s indecent, savagery, lack of culture, baseness to blame for such a great different people, from which probably all European nations have gone.
  • Private89 April 4 2020 09: 14 New
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    The strength of the USSR was that there were not only nationalities, but also the Soviet people!
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      Glasnost and the economic crisis in the 80s showed that the strength of nationality and the Soviet people turned out to be liquid in practice.
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      Private89:The strength of the USSR was that there were not only nationalities, but also the Soviet people!

      And in Germany, what is the strength? There are also a bunch of nationalities and together they are the German people. And in America? And in China? - Same.
      Such illiterate but pathos-slogan comments unfortunately “conceal” the very concept of the USSR
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        No, the German people are a single ethnic group with regional characteristics and local dialects. Only the Bavarians stand a little apart. And so, the population there was very mixed after the war, in addition, millions of Germans were resettled from Eastern Europe. In any German land (which, incidentally, for the most part (with the exception of Bavaria, Bremen, Hamburg) are artificial entities created after the war), a significant part of the population comes from other lands.
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          No, the German people are a single ethnic group

          Directly mono-ethnic state laughing
          Saxons, Schleswig-Holstein, Westphalians, Prussians, Bavarians, Palatinate, Franconians, Thuringians, Lothargins, Silesians, Bremen, Swabians, Pomeranians - there are more than 50 nationalities. Even language differences. It is not for nothing that the status of Germany is a federal state (Germany)
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            Yes, mono-ethnic. These are not nationalities. The Germans themselves feel like a single people. Moreover, there are regional and dialect differences. Somewhat apart are the Bavarians, who can be considered a sub-ethnic group within the German ethnic group. / There are small indigenous peoples, these are sorbians (Luzhichans) and Frisians. Danes living in Schleswig-Holstein can also be considered indigenous. Once again, they are very mixed up. And federalism is due to the long fragmentation of German lands. Now German federalism is somewhat artificial.
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      Therefore, this very Soviet people scattered joyfully screaming along national corners.
  • Finches April 4 2020 07: 04 New
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    Personally, in the USSR I still feel such a personal dislike of the Anglo-Saxons that I can’t even eat! laughing Who are the Anglo-Saxons - a rabble of robbers from the highway, and Russian is a state of mind!
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      Quote: Finches
      Who are the Anglo-Saxons - a rabble of robbers from the highway, and Russian is a state of mind!

      Yes, they were called NAGLOSaksa correctly
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      Quote: Finches
      Personally, in the USSR I still feel such a personal dislike of the Anglo-Saxons that I can’t even eat! laughing Who are the Anglo-Saxons - a rabble of robbers from the highway, and Russian is a state of mind!

      It is helpful to re-read Mark Twain from time to time. A few quotes from his story "We are Anglo-Saxons" (1905) http://www.haharms.ru/rasskazy-mark-tven-21.html

      “If you translate this outstanding declaration (and feelings expressed in it) into simple human language, it will sound something like this: “We, the British and Americans are thieves, robbers and pirates, which we are proud of”. "

      “Our motto:“ We believe in gentlemen ... ”When I read this praying inscription on a paper dollar (worth sixty cents), I always think that it trembles and whimpers in religious ecstasy. This is our official motto. The authentic, as we see, completely different: "When Anglo-Saxon needs something, he goes and takes it.". Our official morality found a touching expression in the majestic and at the same time humane and kind motto: “Ex pluribus unum” (of which one is Latin), from which it seems that we all, Americans, are a large family united by brotherly love. And our true morality is expressed in another immortal dictum: "Hey there, stir!" "

      “More than a hundred years ago, we taught the first lessons of freedom to Europeans, we contributed a lot to the success of the French Revolution - there is our share in its beneficial results. Later we taught Europe and other lessons. Without us, Europeans would never have known what newspaper is reporter; without us, European countries would never have tasted the sweets of exorbitant taxes; without us, a European food trust would never have mastered the art of feeding people poison for their own money; without us, European insurance companies would never have taught if we were to enrich ourselves with such speed at the expense of defenseless orphans and widows; without us, the invasion of the yellow press in Europe would probably not come soon. We tirelessly, persistently, persistently Americanize Europe and hope to bring this matter to an end with time. "
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        Absolutely true! hi
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      not everything is measured by state of mind.
    4. Courier April 4 2020 15: 32 New
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      Is Newton a robber too? Or Maxwell? Watt?
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        Naturally! What confuses you? The law of gravity? So one does not interfere with the other! laughing
  • Russobel April 4 2020 07: 26 New
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    I don’t know what kind of complex there is.

    We have one complex, the military-industrial ...
    1. Michael67 April 4 2020 07: 37 New
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      Mr. Posner ... "This is a feeling that they are looking down at us, we are not very recognized ..."
      Whose will you be? "They look at us ...". Give him acceleration to the fifth point.
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      This is a good complex. We must also achieve others.
  • Thrifty April 4 2020 07: 37 New
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    And why does he even have a Russian passport? I would take such citizenship, and deported from Russia without the right to return even as a tourist to the country!
    1. nickname7 April 4 2020 08: 55 New
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      He has 2 more citizenship besides Russian, by the way, he participates in elections in America and in France.
      But on the other hand, unlike the Englishman Brilev, Pozner is also a Russian.
      There are also such Russians as Borovoy or Illarionov, whose souls are not just foreign, but they are American patriots, Illarionov, senior researcher at the Cato Institute (USA), perceives Russia as a threat to the interests of the United States and, accordingly, fights with it. During the events of 14 years, while sitting in Moscow, he participated in tanslations with members of the junta, gave them information about the situation in the Russian Federation and advised how best to deal with it.
      Illarionov was the guarantor's adviser, which would be the same if McCain were the advisor to the guarantor. Counterintelligence probably drank bitter from hopelessness when McCain, that is, Illarionov worked in the Kremlin.
  • knn54 April 4 2020 08: 12 New
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    The inferiority complex is a disease invented by the "Russian" media. For Western money and SPECIAL for the "Russian" liberalists.
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    I don’t know what kind of complex there is.

    Pozner just had the complexes ... since he was talking about them.
    Apparently for him the word Russian is like a red rag for a bull ... well, this is understandable by looking at his biography ... cosmopolitan ... his homeland is the USA and EUROPE ... but not Russia ... one should not expect anything else from him.
  • Alex Nevs April 4 2020 08: 16 New
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    And who are we listening to ... posner ... Well, wow analytega.
  • Xnumx vis April 4 2020 08: 29 New
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    Quote: Doccor18
    I am proud to be Russian! I don’t know what kind of complex there is.

    Proud !! But, the fact that our “elites” always nodded to the west, and what they say there, whether they will praise or scold, was present and present ... It’s natural to adopt the best from other nations, but it’s stupid to imitate and copy blindly. Example - Chinese eat cats ... disgusting !! The French are eating frogs --- Amazing !! ... Although this and that in my opinion is disgusting!
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    Posner has complexes and insanity.
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    Quote: Doccor18
    I am proud to be Russian! I don’t know what kind of complex there is.

    ========
    Well, Posner is half Jewish, half French. Born in France, raised in the United States, spent his youthful years in the GDR and only in youth turned out to be in the USSR. Hence the “complexes” characteristic of cosmopolitan: he cannot decide in any way: WHO is he? And WHERE is his homeland? He himself stated that it was BEST to him in France ....... Let him "roll" there!
  • Chervonny April 4 2020 13: 56 New
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    Russian liberals have an inferiority complex. in the USSR it was customary to be proud of one's nationality. with the advent of power, liberals of nationality were removed. it is the liberals who are trying to instill in the Russian people an inferiority complex.
    Quote: Doccor18
    I am proud to be Russian!

    I fully support you! you need to be proud of your nation and your people!
    In one of his articles dated March 1917, Stalin wrote that "the great Russian people are the most faithful and best ally of progressive revolutionary forces, and only the Russian people can finally solve the question of Marxism."
    In 1933, Stalin declared: "The Russians are the main nationality of the world, they were the first to raise the flag of the Soviets ... The Russian nation is the most talented nation in the world ..."
    in November 1939, Stalin, in a conversation with Kolontay, said: "... the Russian people are a great people. The Russian people are a good people. The Russian people have a clear mind. It is as if born to help other nations. The Russian people have great courage, especially in difficult times, in dangerous times. He is proactive. He has a strong character. He is a dreamy people. He has a goal. Therefore, it is harder for him than other nations. You can rely on him in any disaster. The Russian people are irresistible, inexhaustible. "
  • zenion April 4 2020 16: 21 New
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    He has a Pizdner complex.
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    You can only be proud of your personal successes. what you personally did, overcoming difficulties, barriers and obstacles along the way. You may be glad of that. that you are Russian, but there’s nothing to be proud of.
  • ROSS_51 April 5 2020 05: 05 New
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    Quote: Doccor18
    I am proud to be Russian! I don’t know what kind of complex there is.

    In the 90s he often went abroad to work. To the question, Where are you from? -I am Russian, then spoke with a challenge. Now, with pride. But there has never been an inferiority complex — Posner is just an old senile.
  • orionvitt April 4 2020 06: 45 New
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    "Inferiority complex" of Russia before the West
    Ha, remembered the time of Pushkin. But I recall the recent World Cup. All foreigners were unpleasantly surprised by the poor knowledge of the inhabitants of Russia, the English language. To the questions of Western fans in this case, the answer was often heard - "Learn Russian." So who worships whom? Those days ended long ago. By the way, no reverence for the West, did not prevent Russia from dumping the same West, at every convenient and inconvenient occasion.
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      Quote: orionvitt
      often heard the answer - "Learn Russian"

      I immediately remembered the poem by V.V. Mayakovsky, "Our Youth." excerpt from this poem:
      Comrades boys,
      look at Moscow,
      ears in Russian!
      Yes be me
      and a black man of advanced years,
      and then
      without despondency and laziness
      I would learn Russian
      just for
      what im
      Lenin was talking.
  • Mwg
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    "Why was French the most important language at the time of Pushkin? Why was it in French that one should speak, correspond, and not in Russian?" - Yes, because the French were the first occupation rule of this long-suffering land. Then there were the Germans. The cataclysm that demolished local government and the army opened up more or less surviving Euroopeans with ample opportunities to take everything that was bad and call it their own. And we continue to listen to the tales of historians about the "uncivilized and wild" Russians and their inferiority complex and the tens of thousands of historical heritage of some others.
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      yes because the French were the first occupation rule of this long-suffering land
      Nothing is clear which land? If Europe, then what does Russia have to do with it, if Russia, then the Polish language is much more logical as the language of the "elite".
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        Polish in the 16-17 centuries was also in use and for the same reasons
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          Quote: AnpeL
          Polish in the 16-17 centuries was also in use and for the same reasons
          Directly everywhere among the "elite", so the boyars did not even know Russian? Let me doubt it.
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            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Directly everywhere among the "elite", so the boyars did not even know Russian?

            Gradually, they began to master Russian, but mostly their children and grandchildren. You trace the pedigrees of the aristocratic and noble families of the Republic of Ingushetia, there are many Russians there? But many of them and Russian names were accepted for mimicry.
            The same kind of Count Tolstoy.
            What was their last name before moving to Russia?
            De Moling!
            Look at the names of officers and generals in the war of 1812 ... yes, at least the Russo-Japanese 190401905 ... at least in the WWI.
            Or maybe the Romanovs, who ruled before 1917, are also from an old ... boyar clan?
            Not !
            This is a branch of the Dutch-German family of Holstein-Gottorp.
            Not a drop of Russian blood.
            Purely Gothic (not even Germanic).
            DNA - R-1B - Gothic haplogroup.
            As in England, France, Spain, Italy and ... mainly West Germany.
            And Switzerland.
            But not Russia.
            Therefore, serfdom (slavery) was so total, and the attitude towards the people was so disgusting.
            And the Polish language is only in the territory of the Commonwealth, which is also a lot - the empire was also. Though not for long.
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              Quote: bayard
              Gradually, they began to master Russian, but mostly their children and grandchildren. You trace the pedigrees of the aristocratic and noble families of the Republic of Ingushetia, there are many Russians there?
              Thanks for the science, I beat the brow, only I wrote about the Polish language.
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Polish in the 16-17 centuries was also in use and for the same reasons
              Directly everywhere among the "elite", so the boyars did not even know Russian?
              As for the dominance of the French, and so in the know.
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                Polish only on the outskirts, in White Russia and Smolensk region (but not for long).
    2. Avior April 4 2020 07: 19 New
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      . Yes, because the French were the first occupation rule of this long-suffering land.

      What are you talking about?
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      Why was it in French that one should speak, correspond, and not in Russian?

      Because Europe followed the path of scientific and technical progress and industrialization, the ruling circles of the Republic of Ingushetia saw this and carried out Westernization so as not to lag behind, this policy was correct. France was at the peak of the then technology and it was logical to learn from them. Do you like French? Well, there's nothing to be done, laggards have to learn a foreign language, there is no shame here. In the system of feudalism, nationality and language do not matter, as the oath of allegiance to the sovereign is brought.

      the French were the first occupation rule of this long-suffering land

      Nonsense. The Russian nobility honestly served their country even in French, as they were bound by oath.
      While the nobility served, this system worked perfectly, but the compulsory service was canceled in 1762, the servicemen were reborn into parasites. By the way, in England they were able to solve this problem, they busted drones.

      tales of historians about the "uncivilized and wild" Russians and their inferiority complex

      However, this has some basis, for example, compare a village in Germany with a village in the Russian Federation.
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        And who wondered why Russia was lagging behind? Because of her inherent savagery, as historians stubbornly repeat to us, or for what other reason? What, Russians are so stupid and retrograde that they cannot provide themselves with a comfortable life? Why did British experts come and show Demidov where to put the plants, which are 2/3 in the photos in the ground? Maybe because the British still had cards, but in Russia they weren’t for some reason? Maybe they were not there, because the Dutchman Petya 1 at one time brought everything to St. Petersburg and burned it? And are Russians so stupid and retrograde if almost all discoveries of world significance are made by them?
        Answer yourself these questions, I do not need to answer.
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      Specially trained people do not care what is written, the main thing for them is: to zamususat comment - work out the tasks, fulfill the obligations and get a reward. The purpose of having such tasks? Controlling the mass consciousness through influencing the subconscious: the one who sees the minuses will not reflect on the commentary. For how can so many negative people make mistakes ...
  • fk7777777 April 4 2020 06: 50 New
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    Yeah, the language of the enemy, you always need to know !!!!
  • Moore April 4 2020 06: 51 New
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    Unfortunately, this elderly Russophobe is, in a sense, right - that the Russian elite since the time of Peter the Great has been looking for this very elitism in imitation of European gimmicks and jumps. Which, in fact, has not gone anywhere now.
    The question is different - how do the remaining ninety-five percent of “non-eltarists”, quilted jackets, the so-called look at it all? With contempt, I suppose. It is clear that for cosmopolitan Posner this people does not exist. Well, yes, and it is a phenomenon for the people, the existence of which can be neglected.
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      Unfortunately, this elderly Russophobe is in a sense right

      Yes, there is some truth in his words.
      But, Russian nobles did not seek this elitism from the time of Peter I, but from the time of Catherine II, when during her reign there was universal, and not only Russian, worship of all French, were delighted with the brilliance of Versailles, from fashion, from Voltaire and Diderot. And, precisely under Catherine, there was a massive influx of fugitives from France, after the revolution and the execution of the king. The Russian nobleman began not only to speak French, but also to think - this is a well-known expression of those years. What to say - if most of the evidence, as a result, the Decembrists gave in French.
      Under Nicholas I, the practice of passion for everything French came to naught.
      As for Mr. Posner, his statements on this subject are rather clumsy and illiterate. You can say anything to a full stomach.
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        The Russian nobleman began not only to speak French, but also to think

        But along with French, elements of culture were adopted, as well as new concepts and phenomena that were transferred and enriched the Russian language.
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          But together with the French, elements of culture were adopted, as well as new concepts and phenomena

          Catherine II began to suppress some phenomena, such as Jacobinism, Freemasonry, when she realized that the passion for French went too far. During the rule of her grandson, they forgot about the French.
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      I agree with you in everything, and especially with the fact that:
      Quote: Moore
      The question is different - how do the remaining ninety-five percent of “non-eltarists”, quilted jackets, the so-called look at it all? With contempt, I suppose.

      But I think that:
      that for cosmopolitan Posner this people does not exist.

      There is a people for him and he even considers himself a part of him, but he is only those 5% who entertain him (the people), although he thinks that he is influenced by his kind of wise rants. Only he is no one, just a character from a television box. And I want to become something more than that. Here from here and his inferiority complex. But the people do not care how he lived, he will live like that. The main thing for the "elite" is less foolishness to fool around, and more to think what they say, well, at least at least to chew more and talk less. hi
  • 501Legion April 4 2020 06: 51 New
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    Posner is still a "fruit"
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      Quote: 501Legion
      Posner is still a "fruit"

      rotten fruit hi
  • Nelepost April 4 2020 06: 53 New
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    An article about what he said, something is wrong there, isn't it? Or a hint that Posner does not consider himself a representative of Russia, and it means he will be a Westerner automatically, and why it’s interesting not to be an Easterner or someone else? Why does the author divide people into classes and categories, maybe the author just wants srach in the comments, redirecting the audience from Posner's words to his personality. Or maybe the author is a supporter of even fascism, that he wants to divide everyone into right and wrong ...
  • rotmistr60 April 4 2020 06: 54 New
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    It is interesting to whom (what) Posner himself relates to today
    Just not to Russia. Returning from abroad where he lived for several years, incl. with his parents as a child, Pozner suddenly became the guru of Russian television and almost true in the last resort in disputes between the "liberals" who were actively supported and supported by Russian citizens who did not belong to the "handshake and enlightened." For whom in the end he left the right of "truth" is probably understandable. Therefore, over the years he has said a lot of things, repeatedly provoking hostility and disagreement with his conclusions, in particular about Russia and the Russian people.
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      Try to speculate on this topic with Gozman, Shenderovich, Venediktov ... What will they say and how will it be presented?
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        Quote: rotmistr60
        Try to speculate on this topic with Gozman, Shenderovich, Venediktov ... What will they say and how will it be presented?
        And they are the Russian people? repeat
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      Pozner suddenly became the guru of Russian television and almost true in the last resort

      In the nineties, I, then a young TV person, had an internship at Ostankino.
      During the lunch break, he took the elevator to the common Ostankino dining room on the ninth floor overlooking the courtyard.
      Picked up a tray of eaten and looked around. Most of the four-seater tables were occupied.
      Only at the window, in splendid isolation, was Pozner sitting at a table.
      I headed straight for him. Local Muscovites chattered from the line:
      - Do not go to Pozner! All the same, it will not let me go. He puts himself high ...
      - Why? - I turned around, - we are all colleagues here. We work together ...
      - Well. Well, try it, - the locals were delighted, the whole line was staring at me ...
      I went to the table of the guru of Russian television:
      - Excuse me, free? - I put the tray on the table.
      - Do not see, busy? - the star lifted up my watery tired eyes. - Look again, there are plenty of places ...
      The line giggled triumphantly.
      I found a place for myself. And set about lunch. Ten minutes later, Posner finished the meal. He rose from the table and proudly left. His tray of plates remained standing on an empty table.
      Now I think that Posner puts himself above the Russian people. Neglects them. Squeals.
      And then I had one desire - to catch up with ka and give it in the face.
      Not caught up.
      And he didn’t.
      It's a shame.
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        Quote: Paul Siebert
        In the nineties, I, then a young TV person, had an internship on Ostankino.

        Funny intern "on" Ostankino, a little later became old and again
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        Not caught up.
        And he didn’t.
        It's a shame.

        Why catch up, would pour
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        eat a tray
        to his head and enjoyed life! yes
        I'm standing so sad
        I'm betraying shame
        hooligans gave to the snout
        passers-by in sight.

        I would be faster and easier
        not in such great years
        I would run away at a meeting
        on healthy legs.

        Be a little younger
        and as healthy as an amball,
        I would give in response to erysipelas
        and would end the scandal.

        But they are much wider
        without wrinkles and without gray hair.
        And besides there are four of them,
        Well, I'm only one.

        Plus the effects of gastritis,
        prostatitis and diabetes. .
        And I quietly had to get a gun from my pocket.

        It turned out somehow stupid
        uncomfortable, God sees
        but four corpses lie
        at my arthritic legs.

        Guys could live and live,
        if only I was young. .
        But I'm not guilty
        that I'm so old.
        Captain Nemo drove this masterpiece !!!
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          And what, in fact, do you want, a pooper?
          Poems stolen he post ...
          Do we know each other?
          Do you have problems with prepositions? Q / Do you live in Ukraine?
          Yes, I did an internship at Ostankino, on Channel One, in the building at Academician Korolyov Street, 12. However, the channel was then called Public Russian Television. And it was led by Vladislav Listyev.
          Doubt it? Why? Should we know each other?
          We are not acquainted? So - go to the buoy!
          Engage Kurbsky, as Vanya the Terrible ordered ... tongue
  • Strashila April 4 2020 06: 55 New
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    "The" inferiority complex "of Russia before the West," a liberal myth, do not fully feel the deflectors under these values ​​since the time of Peter. And to the people to spit these values, and pah on them, we have for centuries our country, family, friends, respect the elders, do not spit in the well and do not dig a hole for another.
  • Adam Khomich April 4 2020 06: 56 New
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    Old song in a new way. Posner repeats other people's thoughts.
    I read this nonsense about thirty years ago at the dawn of the heyday of demshiza,
    when the nascent liberda zealously destroyed the USSR, and for the stew
    from the State Department led the country to "Western values."
    Nasty. And also bald and wearing glasses.
  • Vladimir_2U April 4 2020 06: 57 New
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    It is interesting to whom (what) Posner himself relates to today - to Russia or the West, does he experience an inferiority complex or believes that an inferiority complex is experienced before him? ..
    In his programs, he directly conveyed a sense of superiority from him, so for me the answer is obvious how obvious the position of the leadership of the television channels from which he broadcast.
  • samarin1969 April 4 2020 06: 57 New
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    Posner draws his conclusions, based on the fact that at one time in the Russian Empire, elites preferred to speak French among themselves. According to Mr. Posner, the inferiority complex was the prerogative of the higher circles.


    So what's the question? That elite has not been around for 100 years. So there are no "complexes".
    What this citizen says about the Russian language completely violates article 19 of the Constitution on the inadmissibility of discrimination, including on a national basis.
  • Rurikovich April 4 2020 06: 59 New
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    For me personally, Pozner is part of the liberal stratum (sorry, cesspools) of Russian society, which itself creeps before the West fool American passport holder negative The real "patriot" bully
    I translate - an empty place yes request
  • Amateur April 4 2020 06: 59 New
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    Do not make yourself an idol or any image of what is in the sky above, what is on the earth below, and what is in the water below the earth. Do not worship them and do not serve them; (2 commandment)

    When the Orthodox begin to violate Christian commandments and make a citizen of France, a Jew, an idol, he, this posner, allows himself to periodically spit on the Russian hand, giving him a piece of bread and butter.
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      Quote: Amateur

      When the Orthodox begin to violate Christian commandments and make a citizen of France, a Jew, an idol, he, this posner, allows himself to periodically spit on the Russian hand, giving him a piece of bread and butter.

      He is a Catholic - dad is cross-christened, baptized him into Catholicism
  • north 2 April 4 2020 07: 03 New
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    One weirdo with a fake-sad face
    “Huddling” in the cabin of his “Porsche”,
    He said: “I am ashamed to be called Russian.
    We are a nation of mediocre drunks. ”

    A solid look, behavior -
    Everything is devised by the devil cunningly.
    But the merciless degeneration virus
    I ingloriously stole everything inside him.

    His soul is not worth a half
    Like a yellow leaf from broken branches.
    But the descendant of the Ethiopians Pushkin
    He was not burdened by his Russianness.

    They considered themselves Russian rightfully
    And they lifted the Motherland from their knees
    The creators of Russian seafaring glory
    Both Bellingshausen and Kruzenshtern.

    And not reconciling with a narrow worldview,
    Trying to look beyond the horizon
    It was considered an honor to be called Russian
    Scots - Greig, de Tolly and Lermont.

    Any of them are admirable,
    After all, to sing homeland is the law for them!
    So he gave his life without regret
    For Russia, Georgian Prince Bagration.

    Our language is multifaceted, accurate, faithful -
    He heals the soul, then smothers like steel.
    Are we able to value him immensely
    And to know him, as the Dane Dahl knew?

    What the hell is it! And in our time a lot of
    Speaking Great Language
    No worse than Ukrainian Mykola Gogol,
    What happened to Pushkin’s sign once?

    Do not bang your head on the wall
    And in a rage saliva sprinkle in vain!
    "We are Russians!" - said Shevchenko.
    Read the kobzar carefully.

    In the soul love is filial cherished,
    All my life I worked up to seven sweats
    Suvorov, Ushakov and Mendeleev,
    Kulibin, Lomonosov and Popov.

    Their names remained on the tablets
    Like a true story of the basics.
    And among them, like a pillar - old Derzhavin,
    In whose veins the blood of the Tatar Murza.

    They go — servants or messiahs —
    Carrying his cross stooped over his shoulders
    How he carried it in the name of all of Russia
    Descendant of the Turk Admiral Kolchak.

    They instilled and nurtured love
    From centuries-old origins and roots.
    He is a Russian whose soul lives in Russia,
    Whose thoughts are about mother, about her.

    Patriotism does not sell to the load
    To berets, boots or coats.
    And since you are ashamed to be called Russian,
    You, my friend, are not Russian. You are nobody.
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      Poems are beautiful and correct but not about Posner! Or just want to be in the trend? You can’t find such a thing with Posner! What are you talking about specifically?
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        Poems are beautiful and correct but not about Posner! Or just want to be in the trend? You can’t find such a thing with Posner! What are you talking about specifically?

        He's talking about the "Congress of Russian Intelligents." And Posner, you think, is not worthy of this honor?
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          Next to these "beautiful-hearted" earplugs, the "Congress of Russian Intelligents", there is no Posner name. Do you think he is "worthy of honor" to be in the same ranks with them? He is 86 years old, SUCH NOT close to him, and he talks about this or the whole approach to evaluating events in every interview or meeting with every character, be it Zemfira or Medvedev. PS Do not think that I am a fan of Posner, but I respect the opinion of this person. All that I heard from him was not a lie or an insulting propaganda, but only a balanced opinion, based on a comprehensive assessment of events.
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            So he writes and runs his restaurant in addition to television books - in his then years!
  • askort154 April 4 2020 07: 05 New
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    Marasmatik. I forgot how in the 90s I didn’t get off the TV screens, excitedly praising the “Western world”, I was proud that I lived in France, humiliating everything Russian-Soviet.
    Russophobe in the shoes of the righteous. My would, would deprive citizenship of such "ideologists", sending them to their beloved West.
  • Aliken April 4 2020 07: 14 New
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    Posner is trying to impose this complex, our position has been formed for a long time, the Americans are stupid ... Let Zadornova re-read it, not too young. Before whom there is trembling, that man is nonsense, on the contrary, contempt, which can only be their Western gender equality, same-sex marriage and other abominations. Posner gives out wishful thinking.
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    The opinion of this elderly American Jew is certainly very important to us. laughing
  • Alexey Safronov April 4 2020 07: 17 New
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    And that he did not remember the Byzantine Empire of the time of Constantine? Then almost everyone spoke Greek, and Jews are no exception! Hebrew still does not know a good part of the Jews. Or maybe we’ll remember the times of Egypt’s prosperity? For example, the era of Dionysius! So then there was no primer, and they wrote in those languages ​​to which the clerks belonged, and this is the whole collective farm around the world in flesh to the scribbles of uneducated artists. And at the worst end of the time of Pushkin ... The French language was as a union, and practiced in narrow elite circles and among writers, didn’t Russian practice in narrow circles in Napoleon? Then how did they conduct the dialogue?
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      And that he did not remember the Byzantine Empire of the time of Constantine? Then almost everyone spoke Greek, and Jews are no exception! Hebrew still does not know a good part of the Jews. ...?

      So a good part of the Old Testament is written in the international and dominant language of the region - Aramaic, and not in Hebrew
  • Old partisan April 4 2020 07: 19 New
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    Why is this American Zionist still in Russia is not clear. And he constantly teaches. He is that supreme being. Not like some Russians.
  • Mountain shooter April 4 2020 07: 27 New
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    We can accept the opinion of this person, but we can not accept ... I - do not accept.
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    If Russian tells you that he does not love his homeland, do not believe him, he is not Russian. F.M.Dostoevsky.
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      Quote: Guards turn
      If Russian tells you that he does not love his homeland, do not believe him, he is not Russian. F.M.Dostoevsky.

      Ten! (+)
    2. smith7 April 4 2020 08: 46 New
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      Posner is not Russian, but he does not say that he does not like Russia. He loves Russia, he knows it not by hearsay, he knows our culture. But he is a man of the world! He knows and loves many countries and cultures, Onako, a little worse than Russia and our culture. Say that Pozner Russophobe is impossible. What objective facts testify to this?
  • Ros 56 April 4 2020 07: 36 New
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    Posner is just the dumbass of the western spill, which cannot give a correct assessment of historical facts. In my opinion, our ancestors spoke French as a tribute to the fashion of that time and respect for the people of the country, where the royal power was demolished and became a republic. And not because of a sense of inferiority, this semi-American forgot how our "paid tribute" to all these Europeans who were in Napoleon's army, because there were not only Frenchmen there. Remains of this army were carried away by force of legs from Russia. So everything is in order with respect, we will need it, we will respect it once again, as for example in the Second World War.
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      While your ancestors spoke French, mine spoke in Vyatka.
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        You have brains like Posner, you can be proud of.
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          First of all, what are you dissatisfied with, Mr. Nobleman?
          Secondly, you are already funny, because you think everyone around you is dumber than yourself.
          And finally, I doubt your mind, since you so quickly went down to insults.
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      Quote: Ros 56
      Posner is just the dumbass of the western spill, which cannot give a correct assessment of historical facts.

      Spitsyn is very true about him, and said with a good conscience, but the rules of the site .... it is hardly possible to quote his words here ...
    3. Krasnodar April 4 2020 08: 33 New
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      In 1812, the Russian elite, in a sign of patriotism, began to learn ... Russian
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        Well, what are you saying, but how did they command the soldiers, they didn’t know French and officers were nobles. Russian knew everything, before French, German was popular under Peter
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        Quote: Krasnodar
        In 1812, the Russian elite, in a sign of patriotism, began to learn ... Russian

        Do not write nonsense, it is better to re-read, for example, A.S. Pushkin (if you read it). Knowledge of the Russian language is not a sufficient sign of patriotism. Moreover, 95% of "patriots" write in Russian with gross errors, i.e. poor command of the Russian state language. This is a sign that they do not read the great Russian literature.
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          I write what I read, and not only by a single author. As for Pushkin .... like a cat scientist, and Uncle Chernomor with them? Maybe you still wanted to recommend the War and the World of Tolstoy? Natasha Rostova, Pierre Bezukhov, the war with the French, again ... you know ..
  • smith7 April 4 2020 07: 39 New
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    Posner reasoned very logically and there wasn’t a gram of Russophobia in him, as many might think. I hate this cliché myself, but Posner is one of the best incarnations of the "man of the World." For his entire long life, before his eyes were many people of different nationalities from many countries. He is well aware of what people are worth. He sets out his thoughts very deliberately and does not impose his opinion, but offers a topic for reflection, offers to comprehend the existential. This is in my opinion on the basis of many of his speeches on the "zomboyaschik". As a matter of fact, he is a journalist with a capital Z. I would have to read for myself what specifically Posner said in the interview, and not read someone’s comments about this. I do not think that such an experienced and wise person (albeit of Jewish-French nationality laughing ) could express itself on the "slippery issue" sharply and unambiguously.
  • Maks1995 April 4 2020 07: 49 New
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    Somewhere right, somewhere wrong.
    Dialectics, her mother.
    But the fact that the media is still looking into the mouth of USA (some scold but watch) - and what’s happening in USA, or about USA, they say - it’s significant ....

    Here's how to increase the production of good aircraft with us, does not say .... only USA, USA, USA ...
  • Gardamir April 4 2020 07: 56 New
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    How amicably both those and those rushed to denounce.
    And now we have pro-Western power. Where did the Russian word volunteer go, it was replaced by a Western volunteer. They come up with pseudo-Russian words, enemies, import substitution, self-isolation. Send US State Revenue. After they optimized medicine, they rushed to help the West.
    Is it really important to you the opinion of some posner. Much more important is what pro-Western power is doing to Russia.
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      Unfortunately, it’s hard to admit, and faith in the guarantor seems to be unlimited, but if he did not establish pro-Western power, he certainly supported and did not destroy it
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        Quote: rotkiv04
        Unfortunately, it’s hard to admit, and faith in the guarantor seems to be unlimited, but if he did not establish pro-Western power, he certainly supported and did not destroy it

        Faith speak? Belief in constant deception? Yesterday, during a “direct” speech at the guarantor of promises, the watch on his hand showed a “crooked” little time, and obviously not a “direct” one, the press gun already reported that the clock could fall behind and be in a hurry. Lies in everything, always and for any reason.
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    Someone interested in the opinion of a Jew and Russophobe about Russia? I'm not there.
  • Mavrikiy April 4 2020 07: 57 New
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    He has three citizenships - Russia, France [2] and the USA [2] [21
    Deprive of citizenship of Russia, this scum. angry
    1. smith7 April 4 2020 09: 13 New
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      Here, by the way, is the triple citizenship of Posner and his attitude towards Russia. https://www.interfax.ru/russia/283187. Posner “made a slip of the tongue” and called the State Duma the State Duma. And the Duma responded with "triple citizenship." Well done, but at home, "in the eye of the logs do not notice"? The only negative in this Intrfax article is that Svanidze, a radical russophobe writer and propagandist boggled Stalin = Hitler, spoke for Pozner. PS Probably in vain I will polemicize with you. I will not be more, you are most likely inflexible!
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        Probably in vain I will polemicize with you. I will not be more, you are most likely inflexible!

        hi I would probably like to be like that. I do not understand the varieties of manure. For me, what is Pozner, what is Svanidze, what is Bykov, what is Gordon, what is Latynina, what ....... is there any number for them - one substance that is unworthy of mention and understanding. On the next branch is N. Mikhalkov (46-40) video :
        - Are you an intellectual?
        L. Gumilev: - No. I have a profession and have a homeland.
        It seems not to minus. hi
  • Aleks2048 April 4 2020 08: 00 New
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    I read the article and comments ... I just need to announce the competition "Who praise yourself better than anyone else !?". One elderly senile published his reasoning ... and then this began ... some even Ukraine with their dug ponds surpassed ... laughing
  • Strashila April 4 2020 08: 02 New
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    If Pozner’s complex is not complete, this is his personal diagnosis, then the psychotherapist’s treatment did not give the desired effect, let him change and continue treatment.
  • Andre 432 April 4 2020 08: 04 New
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    I must say "did not look." I want to say "this" - the language does not turn to call him a citizen, let alone a comrade - go, go and go again, you know where. Compass and navigator to help you.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich April 4 2020 08: 05 New
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    Rotten and mean-spirited this Posner. And others teaches meanness and rot.
  • rotkiv04 April 4 2020 08: 10 New
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    He is right in relation to the so-called elite, all this riffraff has real estate over the hill, teaches children there, keeps the loot, even Putin’s closest associates, and he knows it perfectly, but as they say - tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are
  • Ru_Na April 4 2020 08: 15 New
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    Only our elites and those who rank themselves among them, such as Posner, have an inferiority complex!
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      Not sure if “our elites” exist in nature.
  • Mavrikiy April 4 2020 08: 16 New
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    I can’t eat, like this vile face with a Russian passport, I will see! angry
  • Dart2027 April 4 2020 08: 16 New
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    One could give an analysis of the modern phenomenon, which is becoming increasingly pathological in nature. This is Russophobia of some Russian people ... Previously, they told us, and they really believed that in Russia they hate lawlessness, lack of freedom of the press, and so on and so forth, that it is Europe’s indisputable presence of all this in it .. Now what do we see? As Russia, seeking more freedom, asserts itself more and more, the dislike of these gentlemen only intensifies. They never hated previous institutions so much as they hate modern trends in social thought in Russia. As for Europe, as we see, no violations in the field of justice, morality, and even civilization have in the least reduced their disposition towards it ... In a word, in the phenomenon that I am talking about, there can be no talk of principles as such , only instincts act ...
    (Fedor Ivanovich Tyutchev)

    More than once I came across the fact that someone begins to compare Russia with other countries, of course, in favor of the latter, but when you start poking his nose that everything is not good there, he (!) Begins to say that it doesn’t matter how it is that he is only interested in what we have, and any facts that problems there are simply discarded.
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      Your comment is certainly true, but this does not relate to what Posner said. I recommend to see the very interview where not quite smart questions Pozner is asked "boy and girl" via "skype". But Posner only drew attention to the fact that the problem of Western worship among the elites in Russia has a long history and that it is embedded in Russian dislike of America at the same time as admiration for the Western way of life. This is not Russophobia.
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        This is not Russophobia.

        What about?
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          This is exactly what he (Posner) said! I realized that this is a long-standing habit of Russian elites to admire everything Western, adopting an alien pseudo-culture, and to blame (sometimes in an implicit, veiled form) for their native land that feeds them. Remember when Peter the Great cut a window to Europe? Since then, the stoha has been pouring shit from us :) by the will of the Romanovs, who succeeded the Rurikovich on the throne as a result of a vague coup including ...
  • Soviet Union April 4 2020 08: 18 New
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    I consider Posner an enemy.
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      Are you a journalist?
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        No.
        What is the logic?
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          So, he is not a competitor to you. You don't cross with him anywhere.
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            lol
            Thin...
            Thank you.
  • Reserve buildbat April 4 2020 08: 28 New
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    Posner has a complex. Yes, and a vegetable with it. By the way, let's look at the notorious times of Pushkin. All governesses, home teachers are French, all the servants are from the west. Germans, British, Swiss, French and others. An interesting “inferiority complex” among Russians, if in Europe it was considered happiness in Russia to serve.
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    I am proud to be Russian! I don’t know what kind of complex there is.

    Yes, the Russians have many complexes, and they can’t be listed. For example, Poplar, Yars, soon Sarmat ...
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    ... Why was French the most important language at the time of Pushkin? Why was it in French that one should speak, correspond, and not in Russian?

    In modern Russia, everyone speaks and writes in Russian, but still have a complex? Strange logic.
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    Posner, as always, is lying. The inferiority complex (Western worship) is present in some part of the intelligentsia, people, but not all.

    In the 19th century there was such a movement called Westernism and the counterweight to Slavophilism. Westerners believed that Russia should follow the Western model of development. The Slavophils believed that Russia has its own developmental path different from the western one.

    This confrontation still exists. And Posner himself is a Western fan with all the inherent inferiority complex.
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      It is he who says that this "complex" among our elites with all the consequences. Hence the desire of the masses to "shop in Milan", to sunbathe in Tenerife, to buy real estate in San Francisco, or inscriptions on shops in Latin letters "PirozhkoFF" for example! And the extreme forms of Slavophilism? This is also bad (it smells of fascism)! I consider Posner balanced in judgments, not Russophobe as anything. And he doesn’t lie “as always”, he doesn’t lie at all. He is a journalist with self-respect for his profession, which you will hardly find among his corrupt colleagues.
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        ,, He is a journalist with self-respect for his profession, which you will find little among his corrupt colleagues. ,,

        Well yes. In my opinion, Posner still needs to be searched. In the USSR, he was the mouthpiece of the Communists and the accuser of the West. After the collapse of the USSR, he sharply changed his shoes and began to broadcast the opposite things about the greatness of the West and the Russian complex.

        Nothing personal just business. Here's the selling credo of Posner.
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        Quote: smith7
        It is he who says that this "complex" among our elites with all the consequences. Hence the desire of the masses to "shop in Milan", to sunbathe in Tenerife, to buy real estate in San Francisco, or inscriptions on shops in Latin letters "PirozhkoFF" for example! And the extreme forms of Slavophilism? This is also bad (it smells of fascism)! I consider Posner balanced in judgments, not Russophobe as anything. And he doesn’t lie “as always”, he doesn’t lie at all. He is a journalist with self-respect for his profession, which you will hardly find among his corrupt colleagues.

        I don’t understand what is wrong with shopping in Milan, sunbathing in Nice and buying property in .... Yokohama? With a normal ruble, rest in Sochi was more expensive than in Europe, with a big difference in the quality of service and the benefits in favor of the latter
  • Andrea April 4 2020 08: 48 New
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    An inferiority complex is remembered by one who is inferior himself. And Pushkin created in Russian and translated into many languages ​​of the World!
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    Posner Hebrew. that’s why he won’t understand our Russian soul, we’ll give the last shirt away from being naked, but honor and dignity never
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      Posner Hebrew. that’s why he won’t understand our Russian soul, we’ll give the last shirt away from being naked, but honor and dignity never

      lol
      The main thing is to believe! good
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        The main thing is to believe! ... so faith is our EVERYTHING ... a. another steam room, or rather a bath
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          Rather, a sauna, where, in addition to Faith, you can call Hope and Love drinks
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            Rather, a sauna, where, in addition to Faith, one can call Hope and Love ..... Well, it’s necessary to open the interlocutor’s thought so penetratingly,
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  • K-50 April 4 2020 08: 51 New
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    Posner! Do you sing that?
    And here is "the nature of Americanism and the inferiority complex in the West"?
    If for hundreds of years on the other side we are constantly threatened by war and often comes, what is it all about?
    If you begin to constantly sprinkle you will be high? Yes you are a masochist hidden simply.
    And the people of Russia are not in the buzz of the death of relatives and friends from the fact that someone in the West, and in the East, wanted the “Lebensraum” in Russia’s place !!! It’s not the people’s buzz that what was built in sweat breaks and burns the invaders, as they steal people into slavery.
    If you are a foster pro-Western bastard from this, so what right do you have called RUSSIAN? You are the usual litter of the West, a rubber item No. 2. And your life will end in the trash anyway, because even their owners do not like traitors !!! am
  • evgen1221 April 4 2020 09: 03 New
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    No matter how many people are now indignant at the words of this character, he told the truth in this matter (maybe once in a lifetime before death). Is it not worshiping to write a bunch of signboards to different degrees of wretchedness of the fly flies in English and other foreign languages ​​(despite the fact that there may not be more than one hundred people in these cities in general for a long time)? Is it not cringing to beg their own culture and customs in favor of foreign trends and fashions ( it’s just a complete borrowing without any adaptation and Halloween logic as an example. Is it not crony and inferiority complex that is stupid to call a cleaning lady a cleaning master and stuff like that. No comrades, such a scale and scope speaks precisely of The elite’s and those who successfully promoted this to the masses and we picked up the beats like sheep, and it would never occur to anyone in Europe and any other country except Africa (and not everywhere) to indulge massively and change their language and culture to the original not our own format and traditions, so we are slaves to our prejudices and worship.
  • jonht April 4 2020 09: 15 New
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    What can a clever ALCOHOLIC say? He himself admitted that he was a lover of a drink .... Now in isolation, let him stay there, "philosophers" ************************. And even better it doesn’t work out. hi
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      What can a clever ALCOHOLIC say?

      This is a diagnosis. How did you make this diagnosis Pozner, regularly drink with it?
      1. jonht April 4 2020 13: 16 New
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        Look on the Internet, there is his interview with a journalist, where he says that he regularly drinks alcohol
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          What for? Drinking alcohol is not prohibited. Well, drank 700 grams ... and stop!
          Some even believe that this is the duty of a Russian person (I, of course, do not agree with them).
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      You want to say that Vysotsky did not tell us anything smart? And Mussorgsky did not write? They were also alcoholics.
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        I, the uncle suffers from alcoholism, it is strange that he is not a poet and not a composer.
  • Million April 4 2020 09: 33 New
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    Posner correctly said everything about the creep of the elites. They are creeping even now. And Pozner, too
  • sleeve April 4 2020 10: 26 New
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    Well, here you go! And here is the elite of the times of the "French bread"? They are not there, burned a hundred years ago ... Only miserable remnants, according to the law of nature about non-flooding, are not the best part, then in the USSR they imagined themselves to be the sugar bone of the new Soviet elite, unfolding to its full height after its disappearance. . here are the "new-old nobles" ... Here they have a complex for the "bydlot and wretchedness" of those who raised them, enriched them with their labor. Slave labor on antediluvian machines for pennies with chuckles behind him, they say what a slavish nature, what terrifying breaks from the wonderful west ... Note that those who work hard for real, raising the level of production they get are not particularly dissatisfied with the quality of the "people" because know what they are talking about. But Pozner then knew of course ... Licked the salt of the question. Yes, so fatherly, so judiciously ...
  • Fishery April 4 2020 10: 39 New
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    Well, while the elite of the former USSR, including the Russian Federation, will hide money in the west and buy real estate))) nothing will change, because there are no conditions, that's when they will come from London and buy an estate in the suburbs of Vladimir) to old age, and send children to study in Moscow, to learn Russian, then something will change, but this requires conditions, but they are not in principle, and each toad praises its swamp)
  • NordUral April 4 2020 10: 58 New
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    Complexes only for you, Mr. Posner and even for "our" flawed authority. The IVS did not have any inferiority, I will add in passing, like the Soviet people in his time.
    But the fact that the upper classes did not speak Russian during the reign of the Romanovs, they were all non-Russian, no matter how hard they tried to seem them.
  • iouris April 4 2020 11: 03 New
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    Firstly, anonymous. Secondly. The "inferiority complex" and civilizational (technological, scientific) backwardness are different in nature things, and they are merged into one in this text. Peter I did not have an inferiority complex, but he was fully aware that the European autocrats were ahead of them, moreover, by 200 ... 300 years. Due to this backwardness in the state Russian language (in which Peter I spoke) there were not a huge number of concepts and corresponding terms (words that designate these concepts). I had to learn languages, first of all Dutch (and not French!) - the language of advanced sailors (Peter I didn’t even get to England - they limited it). As for the French. The transition of the ruling class from the “vulgar” (Russian literature did not exist!) Russian language to the “high” French language (the language of international communication!) Occurred later with the aim of familiarizing it with culture and science. And not only the Russian (very narrow) ruling class (it is also the cultural layer), but also German, Polish, largely Austro-Hungarian and so on. spoke French, not native languages, for the same reasons. Interestingly, the language of Russian natural philosophy (applied science) was German (moreover, "high German" - Hochdeutsch). One of the first ones against the "dominance of the Germans" in science was Lomonosov, who, incidentally, was one of the first to be concerned with the creation of a "high Russian language." Linguistic differentiation in science and culture occurred later, as the formation of national sciences and cultures.
    The "nature of anti-Americanism" and "bowing to the West" lies again in the backwardness of the state and the loss of sovereignty. Moreover, the "lower classes" suspect that this is largely due to the systemic problems of ordinary people, and the "upper circles" are likely to realize that they are compradors. And compradors can have neither national pride nor subjectivity.
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      on which Peter I spoke

      By the way, with enchanting errors. But the German Catherine II - quite competently. But this is so, by the way.
      1. iouris April 4 2020 14: 31 New
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        By the way, with enchanting errors. And here is the German Catherine II

        Did you hear yourself? I can’t say anything about this.
        Here is a famous historical joke about Catherine the Great, how to make four mistakes in a three-letter word: "ischo" (instead of "more").
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  • sanik2020 April 4 2020 11: 30 New
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    Posner draws his conclusions, based on the fact that at one time in the Russian Empire, elites preferred to speak French among themselves. According to Mr. Posner, the inferiority complex was the prerogative of higher circles

    What an elite, such values ​​and inferiorities.
  • Azazelo April 4 2020 12: 06 New
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    when will this scum die?
  • WayKheThuo April 4 2020 12: 11 New
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    Pozner Vladimir Vladimirovich (further - PVV). You can treat him differently, but, as for me, he has several obvious advantages:
    1. Colossal experience in the profession. This is a gorgeous pro - smart, insightful, ironic. Able to ask unpleasant questions, draw unobvious conclusions.
    2. Scrabble. He knows a lot, is well-read, and, most importantly, knows how to apply knowledge in practice. At least in terms of discussion, few can compare with him. Until now, by the way.
    3. To the best of his ability, he tries to be above the fray - such as independent journalism. This does not always work out, but he tries, and this is evident.

    Of course, not without flaws:
    1. Being a representative of our, Russian intelligentsia, she loves to teach and speak through her lip. This, in my opinion, is something like a “growth problem” and there is nothing to be surprised at, because the class, namely the class, well-read, competent and more or less educated people in my country are very young. Something like 300 years - in Europe, the first universities were formed in the 13th century, it seems, we have in the 18th, and the “youth” love to boast of their self.
    2. Being a wealthy and accomplished person, he lives in his ivory tower. As they say, no comment.
    3. The troll. Moreover, it is thin and smart enough, which is not very good. That is, this is good for cozy forums and zhezhechek, but not for serious journalism.

    Now, according to the saying, a quote from an interview:
    It seems to me that in Russia there has long been a certain inferiority complex before the West, it was in the highest circles. Why was French the most important language at the time of Pushkin? Why exactly in French should speak, correspond, and not in Russian? After all, the French, for example, didn’t have the idea to correspond, say, in English, no.

    PVV is smart and therefore speaks half the truth and trolls very subtly.
    Yes, indeed, it was not customary to write English in the upper circles of France, but in our "high" spheres it was accepted in French and, by the way, in the engineering building in German, for example, in the Imperial Mining Institute, education took place in German . And this is normal, that is, completely normal in the formation of a socio-linguistic culture of absolutely any nation.
    At the beginning of the 11th century, for example, after the conquest of England by William the Conqueror, the English elite spoke French for a long time. Before that, the French elite spoke what? I think in Latin, for communicated with Rome. And in ancient Rome, an educated person often used Greek in writing. Until the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th centuries, all of Southeast Asia was written in Chinese characters, that is, “Wenyan” - written language.
    All the above examples do not in any way belittle this or that people / language. It was simply accepted in a certain historical period - the elites always adopted the languages ​​of more powerful, developed neighbors, if only because they had to communicate with them more often.
    What am I doing? This is to say that Russia from the very beginning lagged behind Western countries in its socio-economic development and we had to learn a lot, and since you need to learn, then you also need to learn the language, and who will learn the language? Naturally, those who have access to education, that is, the elite or its inner circle.
    As for the "inferiority complex", here the UIP obviously went too far. I wonder how the nobles, the heroes of the war of 1812, who perfectly know the language of the enemy would react to his words. I think they would have nailed it on the spot.
    On the other hand, the PVV has gone too far, but the problem of cringing before the West and / or the East has a place to be and its roots are much, much deeper, and the consequences are much more dangerous than the empty French babble of the embarrassed "onegins" in front of an incomprehensible slave.
    But PVV, carried away by the desire to annoy the reader, did not highlight these nuances. What a pity - he could.
    I think so.
    1. bukhach April 4 2020 14: 41 New
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      Well, I’ve gone too far, as you think, but identified a problem, and a long-standing problem - from time immemorial they looked into a foreign tourist’s mouth, and now the same thing happens not only among the elites, as they say, God himself ordered the foreign priest to be licked, but among simple "people this is visible, especially among young animals.
      1. WayKheThuo April 4 2020 15: 45 New
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        And what, excuse me, denote this problem? Everybody knows her. It has been designated for so long that you won’t even remember it - from Griboedov to the decisions of the CPSU. From Posner you expect something deeper, more systemic than just a designation.
        As for the current situation - here the tendency, as I see it, is just the opposite - much more people are now traveling abroad not only for leisure but also for work, many communicate with foreign partners as part of their business and little by little the flotation of celestial life from “Westerners "Coming off. Especially if you start working with them in technology, that is, in a situation where you need to do a specific job here and now: start, establish, commission, customer, etc. You see both significant shortcomings and significant advantages, and this puts them on a par with you, and you understand that people have achieved such successes not because they are smarter, more efficient, more organized by nature. No. It’s just that they, I mean the modern West, had the following “goodies”:
        1. The powerful legacy of one of the greatest civilizations in the world, I mean Ancient Rome. We simply didn’t have this, that is, when the ancestors of the French, Germans, and British communicated / fought / traded with Rome, there were not only states on our lands, not even sensible principalities.
        2. Time. They had a time of quiet development. Moreover, in the main countries of Europe, the average "technological" temperature and lifestyle were the same. That is, even if they fought, it was a war of culturally equal peoples. In our case, the “slaughter” with the Mongols, which actually began with the Battle of Kalka, did not give us any significant advantages in terms of technological or social development. By the way, as the Mongol invasion threw Central Asia back - Khorezm was so drowned in blood, destroyed cities, trampled or chopped people, burned libraries ...
        3. Climate and minerals. The climate is moderate, and the presence of iron ore deposits made it possible to develop metallurgy. In practice, this means that, for example, in the 13th century the Germans could make flambergs - the most difficult to make swords, so their skills in hardware and mechanics are from there. We have access to normal deposits was obtained only under Peter and development on an industrial scale was carried out by Demidov, and this, forgive the 18th century - a delta of 500 years does its job!
        4. Climate + technology = better yields and, as a result, an excess of calories, which is converted into the work of public thought. From here there came all sorts of new ideas for the arrangement of society and the emergence of a virtually new religion - Capitalism. It was generally tight with public thought. Where is there to philosophize when half of the country is in the zone of risky farming, and from the steppes the guys on the cones constantly climb, who are not particularly prone to thoughts.
        5. Access to the seas and oceans. Capitalism, in particular, gave impetus to the development of shipbuilding, which attracted a huge number of sciences - you can’t list everything. And what about the famous Transatlantic Slave Trade Triangle? This is when trinkets and axes were brought to Africa, from there to America slaves, and then to England the raw materials from which they made goods? The circle is closed. Here, the key factor is the very products of technological production - beads, cheap axes, knives and other fucking things, but this "garbage" must be manufactured industrially. That is, industry is needed. And we have? And in our apartment there is gas. Our pioneers, such as Yermak, lauded the locals and forced them to pay tribute. Strength, because on an industrial scale they could not offer goods for exchange. And they fought with the locals, and perished. And for an Englishman, a coastal Negro caught his brother from the depths of Africa by the beads and delivered directly to the ships on the Ivory Coast. Therefore, now the descendants of this Englishman are rich lords, peers, mayors, and no one knows about the descendants of Yermak.

        In fact, we received a number of developed countries: Great Britain, Benelux countries, France, Germany and Switzerland, which, in fact, make up the core of the European West, its foundation.
        It is important to understand that they live so well and everything is so arranged in their minds not because they are kind of smart here and now. No, this is the result of a long, thousand-year historical development process, the last 300 - 400 years of which they moved in the paradigm of Capitalism.
        And we? We stupidly “overwhelmed” our specific, Russian path of development and decided to merge into a common, muddy, European, and more broadly, Western project. Well, in it, like any neophyte, we have a suitable place for us, for some reason it does not like it.
        But life does not stand still and the population of my country begins to come into contact with the West more and more, and it is thanks to such professional and everyday communication that sooner or later the concept of “worship of foreigners” will float away to Limb.
        However, this takes time, but will they give it to us?
        This is perhaps the main question.
        I think so.
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          It is important to understand that they live so well ....... they live well, but not all. rather units
  • Gato April 4 2020 12: 15 New
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    Why was French the most important language at the time of Pushkin? Why was it in French that one should speak, correspond, and not in Russian?

    The classic pulling facts out of context. No more than a few percent of the population of the Republic of Ingushetia spoke and corresponded in French. On it she chatted to know at almost all the courts of Europe. What language did the Prussian King Frederick write? Do you think in German?
    This phenomenon is not new and there is nothing special about it. Just a desire to stand out from the herd leads to a herd of people who want to stand out. For example, the Roman nobility preferred Greek, Germanic ricks diligently distorted Latin
  • 1536 April 4 2020 12: 22 New
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    It is surprising that after the Russian elite ceased to speak French, France somehow turned gray, faded and dull. Let's wait, when the Russian elite will stop speaking in English? ..
    But the Chinese language is complex, with many dialects. Will they master?
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      after the Russian elite ceased to speak French, France somehow turned gray, faded and dull.

      Original. However, “after” does not mean “therefore”. Any domestic judge will tell you this in any court.
      “France somehow turned gray, faded and dull” - after the Napoleonic wars (unsuccessful), great France fell into the zone of influence of England.
      However, before the end of World War II, the official language of "international communication" was French, and I also recall that thanks to the advanced science of France, we still use the French system of measures and weights. And after the historic defeat of Russia-the USSR from the United States, financiers switched to the dollar, the population to the “bucks”, oil industry workers to the “barrel”, and aviation switched to feet and knots. Motorists crossed .... you know what. Very often, on Volkswagen (by the way, the brainchild of German Nazism), the winners' grandchildren write: “We can repeat it!”. Do you feel about the "pride of the Great Russian"?
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    Just a chime, like many others are the same.
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  • Jarserge April 4 2020 13: 03 New
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    Posner. Ordinary journalist i.e. corrupt talker clown and buffoon ....
  • Yaro Polk April 4 2020 13: 19 New
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    These liberoid bastards always echo about some kind of inferiority, these are inferior mattress-killers and thieves, who brought an old goat to America.
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    It’s time for this to kick the brains out.
    ok smelly.
  • bukhach April 4 2020 14: 30 New
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    Quote: Mobius
    .And everyone knows that!

    Iron argument! You yourself are not funny? Very sad if not.
    1. Roman_vh April 4 2020 15: 31 New
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      Posner is a TV presenter. Who is watching his broadcast?
      Posner is a writer. Who read-bought his works?
      Posner restaurateur. Where did the grandmas come from?
      Here, after all, how. Even if you are a cross of advanced years, you will be paid for books and programs you do not need.
      Well, something like this.
  • Igor Dvornikov April 4 2020 18: 21 New
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    He’s old already. He ceased to be friends with his head.
  • LeonidL April 4 2020 18: 27 New
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    “It turns out that Posner himself opposes Russia and the West, trying to relate himself to one without fail at the expense of the other. Interestingly, in this situation, Mr. Pozner experiences an inferiority complex or believes that an inferiority complex is experienced in front of him? ..” like all the "liberals and democrats" of the Russian pro-Western orientation, the flexibility of the spine is unlimited, which allows it to become in any currently advantageous position ... but there are people who trust such figures.
  • wooja April 4 2020 20: 41 New
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    Pozner is right ... and Russophobia is a disease or condition of all the "Russian elites" without exception, throughout the history of the country .., there is chauvinism in the country, but there is no nationalism ..., "Russian elites" are cosmopolitan, but simply criminal and mafia, and naturally feel real inferiority, the country's problem is that its elite are successful and successful people, but not smart .... therefore, this situation is inevitable, for once Pozner said something reasonable ... better late than never before.
  • froger April 4 2020 21: 06 New
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    Pozner is wrong in that anti-Americanism appeared only after 1991, when we were deceived in our best feelings .. In fact, this feeling lies deeper and arose much earlier. Due to its vast territory and remoteness from European centers of civilization, Russia has always been distinguished from other Europeans by a high degree of xenophobia, which was supported by the church (since 1453 the Russian Orthodox Church has been the church of the Third Rome) and the authorities. Reasons for support: the masses are always easier to manage if inspired by it, that all around are enemies and "he who is not with us is against us." European countries such as the Netherlands, Czech Republic,
    Hungary, Switzerland are small in territory and from time immemorial have been in contact with their neighbors. I’m not talking about microscopic Italian and German duchies, the inhabitants of which freely traveled through a relatively small central and western Europe, spoke several languages ​​and were well acquainted with cultural, everyday and other differences (though insignificant). And in our country, everything was different. All foreigners in our country were called "Germans," and Muslims were also called "Basurmans." Both that and another - with a clear shade of hostility and superiority. It is wrong to think that xenophobia began only after 1917. Even at the everyday level, it was eternal, and not only among uneducated peasants and working people who had the opinion indicated by them landowners and capitalists, but also among the relatively educated part of society. Xenophobia developed especially under Stalin, which inspired workers and peasants. that there are enemies all around, and not only on a national and religious basis, but primarily on a class basis. These enemies want to take away our natural wealth and the "conquests of the October Revolution" from us, and they want to destroy or make slaves the people of our country. And the ban on traveling abroad completely deprived our people of contacts with ordinary people of other countries and of checking what our communist leaders say about the West. And they spoke a lot and untruths. That is why after 1991 many of our people who traveled abroad experienced a kind of shock from this discrepancy. That is why many, including some of our first post-communist ministers, have experienced euphoria and reassessment of the actual attitude of Western governments to Russia.
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    About the "inferiority complex" of Russia before the West, only the lazy one does not know, and the one who does not know anything at all, Pozner did not discover America. But his conclusions cause only a grin and pity about the "depth" of his knowledge.
    The reasons for the real inferiority complex of Russia before the West lie not in the political field, or even in the cultural, but in the spiritual, - in compliance, half-heartedness, silence, and, I am not afraid of this word, cowardice of our Orthodox hierarchs, the Holy Synod, and its Primate, on the issue Orthodox faith in the face of the West and its thousand-year-old mastermind Vatican.
    Spiritual truth is that it is one and its name is the Orthodox Church (“pillar and affirmation of truth”), and there are no more “churches” on earth except self-proclaimed ones. Until our Russian Orthodox Church openly proclaims this, leaves the ecumenical gatherings, Russia will not get rid of her spiritual illness.
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    Posner is that bastard that squeezed into the CIS information field under the collapse of the Soviet Union, it’s that bastard that manipulates the thinking of those who don’t know and do not understand, it’s a worm that grinds from the inside out. He puts a drop of shit in every truthful and positive information about Russians and about Russia, spreading the brains of unstable ones. In France and the USA no one will listen to him. As they say - without sucker and life is bad.
  • Barmentall April 5 2020 00: 10 New
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    Anti-Semitic pig - this is your Posner! Here the Russian man listens to what all these Shenderovichs / Makarevichs are poisoning about Russia, and he will conclude that ALL THE JEWS ARE SUCH! ... Well, then, you know yourself, the hatred of the peoples towards the Jews never ended with anything good for the latter ...
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      the hatred of the nations towards the Jews, never ending with anything good for the latter ...

      Specifically list all of these peoples, please.
  • Crimean partisan 1974 April 5 2020 07: 07 New
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    The presenter decided to reflect on the "inferiority complex" of Russia in front of the Western world.
    ............. and Che west tode urinate with boiling water at the phrase RUSSIAN GO .... probably everyone is afraid of us unwashed
  • tatarin1972 April 5 2020 09: 51 New
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    Whatever Posner says, whatever he thinks, the West is an enemy for us, it was, it is, it will be so.
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    Posner would like to live in France.
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    Lord .. somebody .. give lyuli to this parasite .. as a mishandled Cossack was. so it remains to them!
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  • boris epstein April 5 2020 15: 55 New
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    Posner confuses hot with salty. After the French Revolution, emigrants from France (many of whom were wealthy and well-educated) inundated Russia. That is why Russian nobles began to invite tutors as a result of the low level of education of the middle class of Russia and the lack of home teachers. The spread of communication between the nobles in French was aimed at preventing the peasants from understanding what their owners were talking about. There was no question of any inferiority complex after the defeat of the then anti-Russian NATO in the Napoleonic wars. What an inferiority complex if the Russian army was in Warsaw, Berlin and Paris! Even with the overwhelming advantage in manpower, navy and technical advantage (fittings, armored screw ships) in the Crimean War, then NATO could not take Petropavlovsk, the Solovetsky Monastery, break through to St. Petersburg, and Sevastopol was not completely taken. So they could not use it as a naval base. Yes, Russia suffered heavy losses as a result of its technical backwardness, but even then NATO captured Sevastopol as a result of the talent of Russian fortifiers, skill, dedication and training of personnel was very expensive. So much so that the West could no longer continue the war. Anti-Americanism has a basis: the US's ingratitude for helping the Americans in their struggle for US independence, the waving of atomic weapons in the 40s and 50s, the Cold War, US bases near the borders of the USSR, NATO expansion to east, Jackson-Venik amendments, anti-Soviet and current anti-Russian sanctions.