Pozner spoke about the nature of anti-Americanism and the “inferiority complex” of Russia before the West

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Well-known TV presenter Vladimir Pozner gave an interview, the words expressed in which caused a wide resonance. The interview is published on the Pozner Online website. The presenter decided to reflect on the "inferiority complex" of Russia in front of the Western world.

Posner draws his conclusions, based on the fact that at one time in the Russian Empire, elites preferred to speak French among themselves. According to Mr. Posner, the inferiority complex was the prerogative of the higher circles.



From the interview:

Why was French the most important language at the time of Pushkin? Why was it in French that one should speak, correspond, and not in Russian? The French, for example, did not enter into a conversation, say, in English. This feeling that they are looking down at us is not very recognized, it’s a long-standing story.

Posner further states that it is the inferiority complex that leads to the “externally manifested sense of superiority”.

At the same time, Vladimir Pozner noted the credulity of citizens before the West when the Soviet Union ceased to exist. The presenter noted that then they decided that the West was ready to receive us with open arms, that there would be no further expansion of NATO in the east. But, as Posner says, "it became clear that they would not accept anyway."

According to Posner, this ultimately led to the development of distrust of the United States, a sense of anti-Americanism.

It turns out that Posner himself opposes Russia and the West, trying to relate himself without fail to one to the detriment of the other. Interestingly, in such a situation, Mr. Posner experiences an inferiority complex or does he believe that an inferiority complex is experienced before him? ..
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  1. +101
    April 4 2020 06: 40
    I am proud to be Russian! I don’t know what kind of complex there is.
    1. +9
      April 4 2020 06: 55
      Quote: Doccor18
      I am proud to be Russian!

      Totally agree hi
      1. +65
        April 4 2020 07: 05
        Unfortunately Posner is right. I’m right that our so-called elites have always behaved, are behaving and, most likely, will behave precisely as minions of the West. Apparently not realizing that they themselves will never be their own for this West, they will do everything possible to please foreign interests, which, as a rule, run counter to national interests.
        1. +56
          April 4 2020 07: 11
          Posner is a malicious catophobe, like all the majority of our "intelligentsia" living at the expense of this country and its people, but at the same time considering themselves obliged to spit on everything around and call everyone "cattle" that prevent them from being lights, to carry the worship of the Western way of life to the gray masses
          1. +35
            April 4 2020 08: 18
            Quote: Mitroha
            Posner is a malicious Russophobe, like the rest of our "intelligentsia"

            And his Russophobia is the product of that very "inferiority complex"
            Plus an easily detectable messianic complex. Vaccinated to him during the disaster and the collapse of the USSR. They have long ceased to believe every word of him, but he did not notice it
            1. +6
              April 4 2020 11: 53
              Quote: Spade
              Lopatov

              hi
              In one thing, he is right, the "West" will always perceive us (Russia) as second-rate. Here is the last example with the same Italy - they did a good deed, sent help, threw beads at swine, and for this they spat on us under the sauce of protecting media information. Not to mention the manifestations of "satire of humor" in the American media about the same aid from Russia. So the question arises in a tragic moment for the world - do we need to bend under this world or "let the world bend under us"?
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                1. +12
                  April 4 2020 12: 35
                  I was abroad and do not think myself Russian! On the contrary, I am proud that I am Russian.
                  What nationality I was born to, such a homeland and came in handy.
                  I respect representatives of other nationalities too, if they deserve it.
                  My relatives are multinational.
                  1. 0
                    April 4 2020 16: 21
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    I was abroad and I don’t think of myself as a Russian! ... I respect representatives of other nationalities too, if they deserve it.

                    If you are Russian, then this is fate. Even if you "think".
                    And who are you by nationality?
                    1. +1
                      April 4 2020 16: 27
                      I am Russian by nationality.
                      1. -2
                        April 4 2020 16: 49
                        It is obvious.
                        It is impossible to explain why trying to "think of yourself as not Russian"? It cannot be changed. It is possible and important to strive to adequately represent your people in communication and in relations with (worthy) representatives of other peoples, to avoid communication with unworthy representatives of their own and other peoples.
                      2. +1
                        April 4 2020 17: 22
                        Quote: iouris
                        It is impossible to explain why trying to "think of yourself as not Russian"? It cannot be changed.

                        Unfortunately, it was necessary to observe our compatriots abroad who would like to stay living abroad.
                      3. -4
                        April 4 2020 22: 50
                        Observing you, I come to the conclusion that you would like to stay abroad. To do this, you just need to rob compatriots. But it is not a fact that money will not be taken abroad.
                      4. +3
                        April 4 2020 22: 59
                        Quote: iouris
                        Observing you, I come to the conclusion that you would like to stay abroad.

                        Something you turned the meaning of my comments upside down!
                        I don’t need a foreign country for free! There is nothing good there! At home, 100 times better!

                        Read my comments carefully and do not compose all kinds of indecent nonsense about me!
                      5. 0
                        April 5 2020 00: 37
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        I don’t need a foreign country for free! There is nothing good there! At home, 100 times better!

                        I do not compose anything, I am your psychoanalyst.
                        Firstly, there is good.
                        Secondly, you travel abroad (and not for nothing) and not in order to watch how compatriots suffer there.
                        Thirdly, why do you think that home is only 100 times better, and, for example, not 1000? You might think that you are not patriotic enough.
                      6. 0
                        April 5 2020 18: 39
                        Quote: iouris
                        Watching you, I come to the conclusion


                        Something with your "Rubik's cube" is not right - it does not add up.
              2. +1
                April 5 2020 16: 01
                To some extent, you are right, but Russia does not help from sagging, but from a wide soul, willingness to share with the afflicted. But the West cannot understand this because of its commercialism.
            2. +4
              April 4 2020 14: 26
              Where did you see Russophobia here? What did he say wrongly about the Russian elite of past times and present? You really separate the right word from flies from cutlets.
          2. +7
            April 4 2020 08: 40
            The reptile feels the onset of a bad time for us. So I decided to remind myself of those who want to take advantage of this period in their interests. So to speak, to sell yourself beloved more expensive. Vile!
          3. +8
            April 4 2020 08: 59
            Quote: Mitroha
            Posner is a malicious catophobe, like all the majority of our "intelligentsia" living at the expense of this country and its people, but at the same time considering themselves obliged to spit on everything around and call everyone "cattle" that prevent them from being lights, to carry the worship of the Western way of life to the gray masses

            Posner must be deported to Ukraine. Take to the border crossing and put on foot.
            1. +6
              April 4 2020 10: 49
              We have a lot of such "artists of the spoken genre", "thinkers" and "defenders of democracy" with double, triple citizenship. What homeland do they work for?
              1. +5
                April 4 2020 11: 32
                Quote: 4ekist
                What homeland do they work for?

                They have no homeland - there is only a thirst to earn more money, not disdaining any means, and envy of the oligarchs whom he serves, and at the same time hates for their wealth. This is where the duplicity of this vile type is born, which under the guise of a "thinker" hides the evil inside of a loser. After all, he was not an ordinary Soviet citizen, but apparently envy moved him in such a way that he always wanted to rise above what he deserved in the USSR. Well, after the collapse of the country, when there was a bummer for him, and he did not become an oligarch, he can only pour out bile about our inferiority, although it is clear how false all his conclusions are.
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                1. +2
                  April 4 2020 13: 46
                  I will answer my question: they work for their own pocket and they do not care deeply what is happening around. Here they earn money, but live abroad, in greenhouse conditions. And I see the "ultra-right" and "ultra-left", they keep the people in suspense and all this nonsense is pouring from all the media. The only thing that can be watched is the Kultura channel, Dialogues about Fishing and OTR (public television), which show the life of the Russian provinces (without rumors about representatives of the British crown, ruinous divas, various metropolitan "things" and other vulgarities).
          4. +15
            April 4 2020 09: 10
            Quote: Mitroha
            Posner is a snide russophobe, like the majority of our "intelligentsia" living at the expense of this country and its people, but at the same time considering itself obliged to spit on everything around and call everyone a "cattle" that prevents them from being the lights, to worship the Western way of life in gray masses

            You don’t have to invent anything, you’ll be a regular agent of influence or, in Russian, a spy, perhaps 33 times turned over.
            There is no need for any conspiracy the posner was "red", was a "crap", was a "zaputin", "anti-Rutin", "pro-Russian" and "Russophobe", he will be any-task is a task.
            1. +3
              April 4 2020 12: 58
              Quote: Malyuta
              Posner was "red", was a "crap", was a "zaputinist", "antirutinist", "pro-Russian" and "Russophobe", he will be any-task is a task.

              Yes Yes Yes

          5. +2
            April 4 2020 10: 08
            Quote: Mitroha
            living at the expense of this country and its people,

            Why is Posner living at the expense of our country? Is he that state employee? Posner is a businessman, writer and presenter, earns himself, but most officials are parasites living at our expense.
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              1. -2
                April 4 2020 14: 14
                Quote: Mobius
                He is paid for Russophobia

                Who pays that? Who is the customer?
          6. +2
            April 4 2020 14: 30
            I don’t perceive Posner's nonsense at all, let him bring him down to the USA.
            1. -3
              April 4 2020 15: 59
              Quote: 4ekist
              I don’t perceive Posner's nonsense at all, let him bring him down to the USA.

              And where to bring down Kiselev and Soloviev?
              1. 0
                April 4 2020 16: 52
                And all ?, the list of colloquial artists can be continued for a long time.
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            3. 0
              April 5 2020 20: 50
              Yes, right. And not only him but all intellectuals who are dissenters. Dugin can only be left. He is a real Russian man. And others like that, wagging their tongues and presenting imperial ambitions.
          7. 0
            April 4 2020 21: 12
            Quote: Mitroha
            Posner is a snide russophobe, like the rest of our "intelligentsia" living at the expense of this country and its people

            Posner was born, raised, passed the stage of initial education and self-awareness not in the USSR, but in the USA and France. Why would he suddenly become a native Russia, such as me or those who were born here? He is an outsider here, so he sees and behaves in this life in this way. At the same time, he never hid this, which partly causes respect. He is not ours .... What do we want from him?
            Quote: Mitroha
            while considering herself obliged to spit on everything around and call everyone "cattle",

            Well, yes, he has this point of view. But you all read it, familiarized yourself, so you were interested. If they had not read him, he would not have received here the content that keeps him within our borders. So what is he wrong about? Interesting in this case, it seems to me, is that a lot of those who live in the West, but do not publish in magazines and do not write books, look at us approximately the same way. What he tells us about us is what the average Westerner thinks. In some ways, he may not be entirely right, but it happened so, and it would be useful for us to know what is born in the head of the average Parisian at the word "Russia".
        2. +20
          April 4 2020 07: 36
          Quote: AnpeL
          Unfortunately Posner is right.

          This ignoramus has long lost the right to judge us, the aesthetic senile is so disgraced, so Myself carvedthat should have disappeared long ago:
          Posner: "So I don't know if the Duma members have read, have they heard of such a writer as Saltykov-Shchedrin... But, in general, I would advise them to read ... Especially the story about a non-commissioned officer widow who herself carved ... "
          fool lol laughing

          We taught that at the school "Inspector" GOGOL and this one "knows" the Inspector ... Shchedrin! lol
        3. +7
          April 4 2020 08: 14
          Once upon a time, about 150 years ago, Russian surnames in international circles were well-known to everyone ... The same Demidovs. They were not simply reckoned with. They leveled at them, they tried to compete with them.
          And the current nouveau riche ... They stole millions / billions and think they will be taken for their own?
          1. +5
            April 4 2020 08: 47
            Well, yes, the rich and noble parasites in the Russian Empire are praised by those who captured the USSR, plundered it, ruined all sectors of the country, robbed the people.
            1. +5
              April 4 2020 09: 01
              Quote: tatra
              Namely those who captured the USSR, plundered it, ditched all sectors of the country, robbed the people

              Do you mean the Communist Party and its members (Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Yakovlev, Shevarnadze, etc.)?
              1. +2
                April 4 2020 09: 07
                The ideology of those who captured the USSR in their anti-Soviet Perestroika, and who declared the rich and noble parasites on the necks of the people in the Russian Empire "the gene pool and color of the nation, the best, most hard-working, salt and sugar of the earth" is "and we have to do with what we have fucked and it has nothing to do with what we did. "
                1. +2
                  April 4 2020 11: 08
                  Quote: tatra
                  The ideology of the USSR captured in their anti-Soviet Perestroika, and announced

                  That is, the leadership of the communist party.
                  1. +2
                    April 4 2020 11: 19
                    It is useless to expect from those who have captured the USSR not only a hint of conscience, but even elementary logic and common sense. The Communists could not take the USSR, because they already created and owned it. Despite the fact that the enemies of the Communists really do not like to discuss themselves, and what they did, they still proved everything about themselves and told, in particular, that they had captured the USSR for criminal purposes, because if they had captured it with good goals, for the good of the country and the people, they would never begin to cowardly blame the responsibility for their capture of the USSR on others.
                    1. +1
                      April 4 2020 12: 38
                      Quote: tatra
                      It is useless to expect from those who have captured the USSR not only a hint of conscience, but even elementary logic and common sense. The Communists could not take the USSR, because they already created and owned it.

                      In this case, your logic is not very clear to me.
                      Some enemies that seized the USSR and ruined it, despite the fact that its collapse was carried out by its own leadership - how is it?
                      1. +1
                        April 4 2020 12: 50
                        The leadership of the USSR could NOT be against the USSR. Against the USSR in the USSR there were and are only traitors, criminals, worthless parasites, enemies of their country and people.
                      2. +1
                        April 4 2020 14: 04
                        Quote: tatra
                        The leadership of the USSR could NOT be against the USSR

                        And then who is Gorbachev?
                      3. +2
                        April 4 2020 16: 55
                        You yourself know perfectly well who he is.
                      4. +1
                        April 4 2020 17: 11
                        Quote: 4ekist
                        you know who he is

                        General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee.
                      5. +1
                        April 4 2020 17: 21
                        I will refrain from commenting on what I think about this "figure". Now is fasting time.
                      6. +1
                        April 4 2020 19: 32
                        Quote: 4ekist
                        what do I think about this "activist"

                        Do you think that I am delighted with him? Not at all. But the USSR was torn apart not by some "enemies who seized it", but by the Communist Party itself. It is a fact.
                      7. 0
                        April 4 2020 20: 02
                        Absolutely.
                      8. 0
                        April 5 2020 14: 00
                        In that form, the USSR was doomed, because the power carried a germ of degeneration.
                      9. 0
                        April 5 2020 20: 53
                        tatra striking example of cognitive dissonance
          2. +6
            April 4 2020 09: 35
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            The same Demidovs. They were not simply reckoned with. They leveled at them, they tried to compete with them.

            It happened in different ways.
            That's just from the empire of the Demidovs there was no trace ...
            Granddaughter in the guard wanted to serve, and squandered ...

            As for Posner, he is not a fighter.
            And so the subject of reptiles is clear to him.
            And the ideal of serving the Motherland is for him something incomprehensible.
        4. +6
          April 4 2020 08: 22
          I’m right that our so-called elites have always behaved, are behaving and, most likely, will behave precisely as minions of the West

          Here, apparently, it depends on the genesis, or the origin of the country, the colonies that were able to throw off the metropolis got immunity, they have a fear and extreme intolerance to fall under the influence of others, and this is the mentality of the elites. For example, India or the same former colony, the states will not tolerate being pushed around. To receive money from another state is a disgrace and a felony for a US politician. I remember Kasyanov was running for president, so he went to Germany and asked Merkel for support and more sanctions for the Russian Federation. To take on obligations from a third country to the president, some kind of surrealism ...
        5. +5
          April 4 2020 08: 56
          Quite right! But not only our elite is behaving contrary to national pride. After the collapse of the USSR, ordinary people raved about Western values ​​and everyone, probably, dreamed of dumping as soon as possible, cinematography and the stage of those years help to remember that. And if I remember that every kid in the yard carried a cap with the inscription "USA California" on his head, it becomes generally creepy. But this is a reality that, unfortunately, is quickly forgotten.
          1. 0
            April 4 2020 10: 05
            Quote: corrado
            Ordinary people, after the collapse of the USSR, raved about Western values, and everyone, probably, dreamed of quickly dumping, the cinema and the stage of those years helps to remember.

            I also remember all the time a film about the sailor Shvandyu, where he said "Let Dunka go to Europe." You can only dream in childhood, and when you grow up, you realize that life is a picture in a primer. A small number of the local population remained in America, in the state of New Mexico, there are many Mexicans, but most of them, as they were poor and unnecessary, remained. Negroes, Latinos and all people from socialist countries, these are only slaves, servants or a chain dog. But our people thought (as the "404 people" now think) that in the West and in the camp of dreams they would be accepted as relatives with kisses and outstretched hands. But in fact, "a cookie from Nuland", "Kalash" in hand and to the front, girls on the panel.
        6. +4
          April 4 2020 09: 34
          Have they ever been in history "our" ... elites ???
          According to Pozner, nevertheless he sits in Moscow .. Here is all their wretchedness .. and rottenness. ..
          1. +5
            April 4 2020 12: 00
            Quote: To be or not to be
            Have they ever been in history "our" ... elites ???

            hi
            The bastard Brzezinski answered your question:
            1. -1
              April 4 2020 15: 01
              Zbigniew (not sbignev) Brzezinski. But is this quote fake? I do not know. But at least the phrases attributed to Thatcher or Madeleine Albright turned out to be fakes.
        7. +2
          April 4 2020 09: 50
          Quote: AnpeL
          Unfortunately Posner is right. I’m right that our so-called elites have always behaved, are behaving and, most likely, will behave precisely as minions of the West.
          Why was French the most important language at the time of Pushkin? Why was it in French that one should speak, correspond, and not in Russian? You answered correctly "Servants of the West". Therefore, they were even ashamed to speak Russian. Even all this "elite", even speaking in Russian, which the Russian people did not understand, we had different languages. Russophobes, liberals and God's chosen Pozners still do not understand why the people in 1917 supported the Bolsheviks and arranged the "Red Terror" for this entire elite.
          1. +3
            April 4 2020 13: 52
            We have always and at all times between the common people and the so-called elite there was and is a huge gulf.
            1. +1
              April 4 2020 14: 55
              Quote: 4ekist
              We have always and at all times between the common people and the so-called elite there was and is a huge gulf.

              It seems that the language is the same, but we do not understand this elite, and even hate it.
        8. +3
          April 4 2020 12: 33
          Hence the simple conclusion - the elites must be changed, and the sooner the better.
        9. +1
          April 5 2020 01: 41
          Quote: AnpeL
          Unfortunately Posner is right.

          Unfortunately you and Pozdner are wrong. Regarding you, what is the matter here I do not know. But Pozdner is cunning, and maybe even frankly lying, pulling an owl on the globe, because I won’t believe that he has such a disgusting education, if he ascribes the passion to speak a foreign language, only to the Russian elite from the time of Pushkin. In fact, it was already difficult for the elites from the time of Yaroslav the Wise to track which language was more familiar to them. For example, you try to track which native language some Gatsburgs of the Holy Roman Empire have. Or take a textbook example with Richard the Lionheart squeaking verses, attention - IN FRENCH! Which, according to Pozdner, he should not have come to mind. What, Pozdner did not know that Richard wrote poetry in French? I knew. It turns out lying? Yes. He deliberately lies, trying in this way to lay inferiority in our heads.
        10. 0
          April 5 2020 13: 35
          And Pіzdner whose servant? Who is less than chobot?
      2. +9
        April 4 2020 08: 19
        For some reason, for me, the Russians are inseparable from the Soviet. I think I'm not alone.
        1. +7
          April 4 2020 08: 37
          Pozner spoke about the "inferiority complex" of Russia before the West

          Whose cow would mumble, and whose would be silent Yes Posner - a person with triple citizenship has absolutely nothing to do with Russia. Here he is just a guest worker. But is he needed here? This question has already been raised by State Duma deputies.
          more details -https: //www.interfax.ru/russia/283187.
        2. +4
          April 4 2020 08: 50
          And these are axioms that anti-Sovietism is always equal to Russophobia, and the West for the past 100 years has been and is not only anti-Soviet, but also Russophobic, and the enemies of the USSR that captured the republics of the USSR began to destroy not only Soviet, but also Russian, including, and in Russia, and to impose foreignism.
        3. +5
          April 4 2020 09: 05
          Quote: aybolyt678
          For some reason, for me, the Russians are inseparable from the Soviet. I think I'm not alone.

          Russians in the West consider all immigrants from the USSR. Be you Azerbaijani, Georgian, Kyrgyz, Belarusian or Ukrainian.
          30 years have passed since the collapse of the USSR, and they think so.

          So you are not alone, almost the whole world is with you :), with the exception of those few who want to divide and rule at any cost, tearing their own ass on the fascist cross ...
        4. +1
          April 4 2020 09: 52
          Sorry. But the introduction of the concept of "Soviet people" under the second Ilyich (even I V Stalin did not dare) and "Russian" (Boris Yeltsin in the address: "The Russians" .. A And V Stalin in 1941: "" Comrades! Citizens! Brothers and sisters! .. ") Is this not the belittling of the huge number of the population of Russia, Russian nationality .. ???
          The Russian people (according to the oversight of the latter in the Russian Federation makes up 82% of the country's population) It is the backbone of its state, on which other nations and nationalities with their national culture and religion are attached. mores and customs, are preserved at the turns of history, flourish and develop ..
          In the unity of peoples, the power of the state ...
          ..
          1. +1
            April 4 2020 15: 02
            In the first decades of the existence of the USSR, they preferred to say "the nations and peoples of the USSR" or simply "the peoples of the USSR".
        5. +3
          April 4 2020 09: 52
          Quote: aybolyt678
          For some reason, for me, the Russians are inseparable from the Soviet. I think I'm not alone.

          Because we hate these Russophobes, the elite, God's chosen partners, as our great-grandfathers, grandfathers and fathers hated them.
        6. +2
          April 4 2020 10: 40
          Not alone lol
          Apparently not in the know how the people in Russia treat the former "fraternal" peoples and what epithets they are awarded with.
        7. -2
          April 4 2020 11: 36
          That is, there were no Russians before the scoop? Who, then, took Napoleon to the house?
        8. +3
          April 4 2020 12: 34
          And you, sorry for the question - whose will you be?
        9. -2
          April 4 2020 14: 06
          And you remember how these Soviet burned churches of the Russian Orthodox Church, suppressed peasant unrest, then the repression of the 30s. And in Soviet times, we remembered Russians last. All drove to the fraternal republics and to help the peoples of Africa.
      3. +1
        April 4 2020 08: 56
        foster father Sergey Batkovich, although the Khazark’s mother is a grandfather from the Bryansk region, I want to drive her to her historical homeland in the near future
      4. +3
        April 4 2020 08: 57
        I think that this is, on the contrary, a complex of usefulness. Russian is not afraid of anyone and lives for himself and not for anyone. And if for someone, then to help him. Therefore, this is a great nation. Russian is a state of mind. No one can be compared with him. In all nations, there is good, but Russian. There is a war in the world with them to break them down and turn them into r, but this is impossible. Russians occupy their important place in the world, uncomfortable for someone with their problems, but they must be taken as they are. I’m generally disgusted when people are poorly spoken about. As the classics wrote, people are not bad. The Russians have everything in their hearts, and not the best, but only GOD is deal, and we are people. It’s necessary to abandon the Russian obscenities, it’s someone’s special propaganda, and it’s indecent, savagery, lack of culture, baseness to blame for such a great different people, from which probably all European nations have gone.
      5. +2
        April 4 2020 09: 14
        The strength of the USSR was that there were not only nationalities, but also the Soviet people!
        1. +1
          April 4 2020 10: 34
          Glasnost and the economic crisis in the 80s showed that the strength of nationality and the Soviet people turned out to be liquid in practice.
        2. +1
          April 4 2020 11: 30
          Private89:The strength of the USSR was that there were not only nationalities, but also the Soviet people!

          And in Germany, what is the strength? There are also a bunch of nationalities and together they are the German people. And in America? And in China? - Same.
          Such are the illiterate but pathos-slogan comments and unfortunately "blur" the very concept of the USSR
          1. -1
            April 4 2020 15: 06
            No, the German people are a single ethnic group with regional characteristics and local dialects. Only the Bavarians stand a little apart. And so, the population there was very mixed after the war, in addition, millions of Germans were resettled from Eastern Europe. In any German land (which, incidentally, for the most part (with the exception of Bavaria, Bremen, Hamburg) are artificial entities created after the war), a significant part of the population comes from other lands.
            1. +2
              April 4 2020 17: 18
              No, the German people are a single ethnic group

              Directly mono-ethnic state laughing
              Saxons, Schleswig-Holstein, Westphalians, Prussians, Bavarians, Palatinate, Franconians, Thuringians, Lothargins, Silesians, Bremen, Swabians, Pomeranians - there are more than 50 nationalities. Even language differences. It is not for nothing that the status of Germany is a federal state (Germany)
              1. -1
                April 4 2020 21: 28
                Yes, mono-ethnic. These are not nationalities. The Germans themselves feel like a single people. Moreover, there are regional and dialect differences. Somewhat apart are the Bavarians, who can be considered a sub-ethnic group within the German ethnic group. / There are small indigenous peoples, these are sorbians (Luzhichans) and Frisians. Danes living in Schleswig-Holstein can also be considered indigenous. Once again, they are very mixed up. And federalism is due to the long fragmentation of German lands. Now German federalism is somewhat artificial.
        3. -3
          April 4 2020 11: 38
          Therefore, this very Soviet people scattered joyfully screaming along national corners.
    2. +19
      April 4 2020 07: 04
      Personally, in the USSR I still feel such a personal dislike of the Anglo-Saxons that I can’t even eat! laughing Who are the Anglo-Saxons - a rabble of robbers from the highway, and Russian is a state of mind!
      1. -1
        April 4 2020 07: 58
        Quote: Finches
        Who are the Anglo-Saxons - a rabble of robbers from the highway, and Russian is a state of mind!

        Yes, they were called NAGLOSaksa correctly
      2. +9
        April 4 2020 08: 37
        Quote: Finches
        Personally, in the USSR I still feel such a personal dislike of the Anglo-Saxons that I can’t even eat! laughing Who are the Anglo-Saxons - a rabble of robbers from the highway, and Russian is a state of mind!

        It is helpful to reread Mark Twain from time to time. Several quotes from his story "We are Anglo-Saxons" (1905) http://www.haharms.ru/rasskazy-mark-tven-21.html

        "If we translate this outstanding declaration (and the feelings expressed in it) into simple human language, it will sound something like this: “We, the British and Americans are thieves, robbers and pirates, which we are proud of”."

        "Our motto is:" We believe in the Lord ... "When I read this pious inscription on a paper dollar (worth sixty cents), it always seems to me that it trembles and whimpers in religious ecstasy. This is our official motto. Authentic, as we see, completely different: "When Anglo-Saxon needs something, he goes and takes it.". Our official morality found a touching expression in the majestic and at the same time humane and kind motto: “Ex pluribus unum” (of which one is Latin), from which it seems that we all, Americans, are a large family united by brotherly love. And our true morality is expressed in another immortal dictum: "Hey there, stir!" "

        "More than a hundred years ago, we taught the Europeans the first lessons of freedom, we contributed a lot to the success of the French revolution - we also have our share in its beneficial results. Later we taught Europe and other lessons. Without us, the Europeans would never have learned what a newspaper reporter; without us, European countries would never taste the sweetness of exorbitant taxes; without us, the European food trust would never master the art of feeding people with poison for their own money; without us, European insurance companies would never learn to enrich themselves so quickly at the expense of defenseless orphans and widows; without us, the invasion of the yellow press in Europe, perhaps, would not come soon. We tirelessly, persistently, persistently Americanize Europe and hope to bring this matter to an end in time. "
        1. +3
          April 4 2020 08: 55
          Absolutely true! hi
      3. 0
        April 4 2020 14: 12
        not everything is measured by state of mind.
      4. +1
        April 4 2020 15: 32
        Is Newton a robber too? Or Maxwell? Watt?
        1. 0
          April 4 2020 16: 12
          Naturally! What confuses you? The law of gravity? So one does not interfere with the other! laughing
    3. +18
      April 4 2020 07: 26
      I don’t know what kind of complex there is.

      We have one complex, the military-industrial ...
      1. +5
        April 4 2020 07: 37
        Mr. Posner ... "This is the feeling that we are being looked at from above downwards, we are not really recognized ...".
        Whose will you be? "They are looking at us ..." Give him acceleration to the fifth point.
      2. 0
        April 4 2020 14: 14
        This is a good complex. We must also achieve others.
    4. +4
      April 4 2020 07: 37
      And why does he even have a Russian passport? I would take such citizenship, and deported from Russia without the right to return even as a tourist to the country!
      1. +3
        April 4 2020 08: 55
        He has 2 more citizenship besides Russian, by the way, he participates in elections in America and in France.
        But on the other hand, unlike the Englishman Brilev, Pozner is also a Russian.
        There are also such Russians as Borovoy or Illarionov, whose souls are not just foreign, but they are American patriots, Illarionov, senior researcher at the Cato Institute (USA), perceives Russia as a threat to the interests of the United States and, accordingly, fights with it. During the events of 14 years, while sitting in Moscow, he participated in tanslations with members of the junta, gave them information about the situation in the Russian Federation and advised how best to deal with it.
        Illarionov was the guarantor's adviser, which would be the same if McCain were the advisor to the guarantor. Counterintelligence probably drank bitter from hopelessness when McCain, that is, Illarionov worked in the Kremlin.
    5. +7
      April 4 2020 08: 12
      An inferiority complex is a disease invented by "Russian" media. For the money of the West and SPECIALLY for the "Russian" liberals.
    6. +5
      April 4 2020 08: 15
      I don’t know what kind of complex there is.

      Pozner just had the complexes ... since he was talking about them.
      Apparently for him the word Russian is like a red rag for a bull ... well, this is understandable by looking at his biography ... cosmopolitan ... his homeland is the USA and EUROPE ... but not Russia ... one should not expect anything else from him.
    7. +2
      April 4 2020 08: 16
      And who are we listening to ... posner ... Well, wow analytega.
    8. +1
      April 4 2020 08: 29
      Quote: Doccor18
      I am proud to be Russian! I don’t know what kind of complex there is.

      Proud !! But, the fact that our "elites" always nodded to the west, and what they say there, and whether they praise or scold, were present and present ... To adopt the best from other nations is natural, but blindly imitate and copy is stupid. Example - The Chinese eat cats ... disgusting !! The French eat frogs --- Delightful !! ... Although both are disgusting in my opinion!
    9. +1
      April 4 2020 08: 36
      Posner has complexes and insanity.
    10. 0
      April 4 2020 13: 54
      Quote: Doccor18
      I am proud to be Russian! I don’t know what kind of complex there is.

      ========
      Well, Posner is half Jewish, half French. Born in France, raised in the USA, spent his youth in the German Democratic Republic and only in his youth found himself in the USSR. Hence the "complexes" characteristic of the cosmopolitan: he cannot decide in any way: WHO is he? AND WHERE is his homeland? He himself stated that it is BEST for him in France ....... Let him "roll" there!
    11. +16
      April 4 2020 13: 56
      Russian liberals have an inferiority complex. in the USSR it was customary to be proud of one's nationality. with the advent of power, liberals of nationality were removed. it is the liberals who are trying to instill in the Russian people an inferiority complex.
      Quote: Doccor18
      I am proud to be Russian!

      I fully support you! you need to be proud of your nation and your people!
      Stalin, in one of his articles, dated March 1917, wrote that "the great Russian people are the most loyal and best ally of the progressive revolutionary forces, and only the Russian people can finally resolve the issue of Marxism."
      In 1933, Stalin declared: "The Russians are the main nationality in the world, they were the first to raise the flag of the Soviets ... The Russian nation is the most talented nation in the world ..."
      in November 1939, Stalin, in a conversation with Kolontai, said: "... the Russian people are a great people. The Russian people are a kind people. The Russian people have a clear mind. It is as if they were born to help other nations. The Russian people are characterized by great courage, especially in difficult times, in dangerous times. He is initiative. He has a persistent character. He is a dreamy people. He has a goal. Therefore it is harder for him than for other nations. You can rely on him in any trouble. The Russian people are irresistible, inexhaustible. "
    12. 0
      April 4 2020 16: 21
      He has a Pizdner complex.
    13. 0
      April 4 2020 21: 11
      You can only be proud of your personal successes. what you personally did, overcoming difficulties, barriers and obstacles along the way. You may be glad of that. that you are Russian, but there’s nothing to be proud of.
    14. +1
      April 5 2020 05: 05
      Quote: Doccor18
      I am proud to be Russian! I don’t know what kind of complex there is.

      In the 90s he often went abroad to work. To the question, Where are you from? -I am Russian, then spoke with a challenge. Now, with pride. But there has never been an inferiority complex — Posner is just an old senile.
  2. +25
    April 4 2020 06: 45
    "Inferiority complex" of Russia before the West
    Ha, I remembered the times of Pushkin. But I remember the recent World Cup. All foreigners were unpleasantly surprised by the poor knowledge of the inhabitants of Russia, the English language. To questions from Western fans about this case, the answer was often heard - "Learn Russian". So who bows to whom? Those days are long over. By the way, no reverence for the West did not prevent Russia from piling up on the same West, at every convenient and inconvenient occasion.
    1. +18
      April 4 2020 14: 00
      Quote: orionvitt
      the answer was often heard - "Learn Russian"

      I immediately remembered VV Mayakovsky's poem "To Our Youth". excerpt from this poem:
      Comrades boys,
      look at Moscow,
      ears in Russian!
      Yes be me
      and a black man of advanced years,
      and then
      without despondency and laziness
      I would learn Russian
      just for
      what im
      Lenin was talking.
  3. Mwg
    -7
    April 4 2020 06: 48
    "Why was the French language the most important at the time of Pushkin? Why was it necessary to speak and correspond in French, and not in Russian?" - Yes, because the French were the first occupation rule of this long-suffering land. Then there were the Germans. The cataclysm, which demolished the local government and the army, opened up ample opportunities for the more or less surviving Europeans to take everything that was bad and call it their own. And we continue to listen to the tales of historians about the "uncivilized and wild" Russians and their inferiority complex and the tens of thousands of historical heritage of some others.
    1. -1
      April 4 2020 06: 53
      Quote: MVG
      yes because the French were the first occupation rule of this long-suffering land
      It is not clear what kind of land? If Europe, then what has Russia to do with it, if Russia, then it is much more logical to use the Polish language as the language of the "elite".
      1. -5
        April 4 2020 07: 01
        Polish in the 16-17 centuries was also in use and for the same reasons
        1. +7
          April 4 2020 07: 12
          Quote: AnpeL
          Polish in the 16-17 centuries was also in use and for the same reasons
          Right everywhere among the "elite", so the boyars didn't even know Russian? Let me doubt it.
          1. +2
            April 4 2020 09: 07
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Right everywhere among the "elite", so the boyars didn't even know Russian?

            Gradually, they began to master Russian, but mostly their children and grandchildren. You trace the pedigrees of the aristocratic and noble families of the Republic of Ingushetia, there are many Russians there? But many of them and Russian names were accepted for mimicry.
            The same kind of Count Tolstoy.
            What was their last name before moving to Russia?
            De Moling!
            Look at the names of officers and generals in the war of 1812 ... yes, at least the Russo-Japanese 190401905 ... at least in the WWI.
            Or maybe the "Romanovs", who ruled until 1917, are also from an old ... boyar family?
            Not !
            This is a branch of the Dutch-German family of Holstein-Gottorp.
            Not a drop of Russian blood.
            Purely Gothic (not even Germanic).
            DNA - R-1B - Gothic haplogroup.
            As in England, France, Spain, Italy and ... mainly West Germany.
            And Switzerland.
            But not Russia.
            Therefore, serfdom (slavery) was so total, and the attitude towards the people was so disgusting.
            And the Polish language is only in the territory of the Commonwealth, which is also a lot - the empire was also. Though not for long.
            1. +1
              April 4 2020 11: 04
              Quote: bayard
              Gradually, they began to master Russian, but mostly their children and grandchildren. You trace the pedigrees of the aristocratic and noble families of the Republic of Ingushetia, there are many Russians there?
              Thanks for the science, I beat the brow, only I wrote about the Polish language.
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Polish in the 16-17 centuries was also in use and for the same reasons
              Right everywhere among the "elite", so the boyars didn't even know Russian?
              As for the dominance of the French, and so in the know.
              1. +1
                April 4 2020 12: 15
                Polish only on the outskirts, in White Russia and Smolensk region (but not for long).
    2. +2
      April 4 2020 07: 19
      . Yes, because the French were the first occupation rule of this long-suffering land.

      What are you talking about?
    3. +1
      April 4 2020 10: 07
      Why was it in French that one should speak, correspond, and not in Russian?

      Because Europe followed the path of scientific and technical progress and industrialization, the ruling circles of the Republic of Ingushetia saw this and carried out Westernization so as not to lag behind, this policy was correct. France was at the peak of the then technology and it was logical to learn from them. Do you like French? Well, there's nothing to be done, laggards have to learn a foreign language, there is no shame here. In the system of feudalism, nationality and language do not matter, as the oath of allegiance to the sovereign is brought.

      the French were the first occupation rule of this long-suffering land

      Nonsense. The Russian nobility honestly served their country even in French, as they were bound by oath.
      While the nobility served, this system worked perfectly, but the compulsory service was canceled in 1762, the servicemen were reborn into parasites. By the way, in England they were able to solve this problem, they busted drones.

      tales of historians about the "uncivilized and wild" Russians and their inferiority complex

      However, this has some basis, for example, compare a village in Germany with a village in the Russian Federation.
      1. Mwg
        0
        April 4 2020 11: 25
        And who wondered why Russia was lagging behind? Because of her inherent savagery, as historians stubbornly repeat to us, or for what other reason? What, Russians are so stupid and retrograde that they cannot provide themselves with a comfortable life? Why did British experts come and show Demidov where to put the plants, which are 2/3 in the photos in the ground? Maybe because the British still had cards, but in Russia they weren’t for some reason? Maybe they were not there, because the Dutchman Petya 1 at one time brought everything to St. Petersburg and burned it? And are Russians so stupid and retrograde if almost all discoveries of world significance are made by them?
        Answer yourself these questions, I do not need to answer.
    4. Mwg
      0
      April 4 2020 10: 52
      Specially trained people do not care what is written, the main thing for them is: to zamususat comment - work out the tasks, fulfill the obligations and get a reward. The purpose of having such tasks? Controlling the mass consciousness through influencing the subconscious: the one who sees the minuses will not reflect on the commentary. For how can so many negative people make mistakes ...
  4. +1
    April 4 2020 06: 50
    Yeah, the language of the enemy, you always need to know !!!!
  5. +27
    April 4 2020 06: 51
    Unfortunately, this elderly Russophobe is, in a sense, right - that the Russian elite since the time of Peter the Great has been looking for this very elitism in imitation of European gimmicks and jumps. Which, in fact, has not gone anywhere now.
    The question is - how do the other ninety-five percent of "non-eltarians", the so-called quilted jackets, look at all this? With contempt, I suppose. It is clear that for the cosmopolitan Posner, this people does not exist. Well, yes, he is a phenomenon for the people, the existence of which can be neglected.
    1. +10
      April 4 2020 07: 19
      Quote: Moore
      Unfortunately, this elderly Russophobe is in a sense right

      Yes, there is some truth in his words.
      But, Russian nobles did not seek this elitism from the time of Peter I, but from the time of Catherine II, when during her reign there was universal, and not only Russian, worship of all French, were delighted with the brilliance of Versailles, from fashion, from Voltaire and Diderot. And, precisely under Catherine, there was a massive influx of fugitives from France, after the revolution and the execution of the king. The Russian nobleman began not only to speak French, but also to think - this is a well-known expression of those years. What to say - if most of the evidence, as a result, the Decembrists gave in French.
      Under Nicholas I, the practice of passion for everything French came to naught.
      As for Mr. Posner, his statements on this subject are rather clumsy and illiterate. You can say anything to a full stomach.
      1. 0
        April 4 2020 10: 17
        The Russian nobleman began not only to speak French, but also to think

        But along with French, elements of culture were adopted, as well as new concepts and phenomena that were transferred and enriched the Russian language.
        1. +1
          April 4 2020 10: 26
          Quote: nickname7
          But together with the French, elements of culture were adopted, as well as new concepts and phenomena

          Catherine II began to suppress some phenomena, such as Jacobinism, Freemasonry, when she realized that the passion for French went too far. During the rule of her grandson, they forgot about the French.
    2. 0
      April 4 2020 07: 35
      I agree with you in everything, and especially with the fact that:
      Quote: Moore
      The question is - how do the other ninety-five percent of "non-eltarians", the so-called quilted jackets, look at all this? With contempt, I suppose.

      But I think that:
      that for cosmopolitan Posner this people does not exist.

      For him there is a people and he even considers himself a part of him, but he is only those 5% who entertain him (the people), although he thinks that he influences him with his kind of wise rantings. Only he is nobody, just a character from the TV box. And I want to become something more than this. This is where his inferiority complex comes from. And the people do not care, how he lived so he will live. The main thing for the "elite" is to suffer less foolishness, and think more of what they are saying, well, at least at worst, chew more and talk less. hi
  6. +5
    April 4 2020 06: 51
    Posner is still a "fruit"
    1. +14
      April 4 2020 14: 10
      Quote: 501Legion
      Posner is still a "fruit"

      rotten fruit hi
  7. +5
    April 4 2020 06: 53
    An article about what he said, something is wrong there, isn't it? Or a hint that Posner does not consider himself a representative of Russia, and it means he will be a Westerner automatically, and why it’s interesting not to be an Easterner or someone else? Why does the author divide people into classes and categories, maybe the author just wants srach in the comments, redirecting the audience from Posner's words to his personality. Or maybe the author is a supporter of even fascism, that he wants to divide everyone into right and wrong ...
  8. +4
    April 4 2020 06: 54
    It is interesting to whom (what) Posner himself relates to today
    Only not to Russia. Returning from abroad where he lived for many years, incl. with his parents as a child, Posner suddenly became a guru of Russian television and practically the ultimate truth in disputes between "liberals", whom he actively supported and supports by citizens of Russia who did not belong to "handshake and enlightened people." For whom, in the end, he left the right of "truth" probably understandable. Therefore, over the years, he said a lot of things, repeatedly causing dislike to himself and disagreement with his conclusions, in particular about Russia and the Russian people.
    1. +2
      April 4 2020 07: 06
      Try to speculate on this topic with Gozman, Shenderovich, Venediktov ... What will they say and how will it be presented?
      1. 0
        April 4 2020 08: 10
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Try to speculate on this topic with Gozman, Shenderovich, Venediktov ... What will they say and how will it be presented?
        And they are the Russian people? feel
    2. +7
      April 4 2020 08: 00
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Pozner suddenly became the guru of Russian television and almost true in the last resort

      In the nineties, I, then a young TV person, had an internship at Ostankino.
      During the lunch break, he took the elevator to the common Ostankino dining room on the ninth floor overlooking the courtyard.
      Picked up a tray of eaten and looked around. Most of the four-seater tables were occupied.
      Only at the window, in splendid isolation, was Pozner sitting at a table.
      I headed straight for him. Local Muscovites chattered from the line:
      - Do not go to Pozner! All the same, it will not let me go. He puts himself high ...
      - Why? - I turned around, - we are all colleagues here. We work together ...
      - Well. Well, try it, - the locals were delighted, the whole line was staring at me ...
      I went to the table of the guru of Russian television:
      - Excuse me, free? - I put the tray on the table.
      - Do not see, busy? - the star lifted up my watery tired eyes. - Look again, there are plenty of places ...
      The line giggled triumphantly.
      I found a place for myself. And set about lunch. Ten minutes later, Posner finished the meal. He rose from the table and proudly left. His tray of plates remained standing on an empty table.
      Now I think that Posner puts himself above the Russian people. Neglects them. Squeals.
      And then I had one desire - to catch up with ka and give it in the face.
      Not caught up.
      And he didn’t.
      It's a shame.
      1. +8
        April 4 2020 08: 59
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        In the nineties, I, then a young TV person, had an internship on Ostankino.

        A funny intern "at" Ostankino, a little later he became old and again
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        Not caught up.
        And he didn’t.
        It's a shame.

        Why catch up, would pour
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        eat a tray
        to his head and enjoyed life! Yes
        I'm standing so sad
        I'm betraying shame
        hooligans gave to the snout
        passers-by in sight.

        I would be faster and easier
        not in such great years
        I would run away at a meeting
        on healthy legs.

        Be a little younger
        and as healthy as an amball,
        I would give in response to erysipelas
        and would end the scandal.

        But they are much wider
        without wrinkles and without gray hair.
        And besides there are four of them,
        Well, I'm only one.

        Plus the effects of gastritis,
        prostatitis and diabetes. .
        And I quietly had to get a gun from my pocket.

        It turned out somehow stupid
        uncomfortable, God sees
        but four corpses lie
        at my arthritic legs.

        Guys could live and live,
        if only I was young. .
        But I'm not guilty
        that I'm so old.
        Captain Nemo drove this masterpiece !!!
        1. 0
          April 4 2020 09: 51
          And what, in fact, do you want, a pooper?
          Poems stolen he post ...
          Do we know each other?
          Do you have problems with prepositions? Q / Do you live in Ukraine?
          Yes, I did an internship at Ostankino, on Channel One, in the building at Academician Korolyov Street, 12. However, the channel was then called Public Russian Television. And it was led by Vladislav Listyev.
          Doubt it? Why? Should we know each other?
          We are not acquainted? So - go to the buoy!
          Engage Kurbsky, as Vanya the Terrible ordered ... tongue
  9. +7
    April 4 2020 06: 55
    "The" inferiority complex "of Russia before the West," a liberal myth, do not fully feel themselves to bend under these values ​​since the time of Peter the Great. And the people don't care about these values, and pah on them, we have our own country, family, friends from time immemorial, respect your elders, the basic principle is not to spit in a well and do not dig a hole for another.
  10. +8
    April 4 2020 06: 56
    Old song in a new way. Posner repeats other people's thoughts.
    I read this nonsense about thirty years ago at the dawn of the heyday of demshiza,
    when the nascent liberda zealously destroyed the USSR, and for the stew
    from the State Department led the country to "Western values".
    Nasty. And also bald and wearing glasses.
  11. -2
    April 4 2020 06: 57
    It is interesting to whom (what) Posner himself relates to today - to Russia or the West, does he experience an inferiority complex or believes that an inferiority complex is experienced before him? ..
    In his programs, he directly conveyed a sense of superiority from him, so for me the answer is obvious how obvious the position of the leadership of the television channels from which he broadcast.
  12. +2
    April 4 2020 06: 57
    Posner draws his conclusions, based on the fact that at one time in the Russian Empire, elites preferred to speak French among themselves. According to Mr. Posner, the inferiority complex was the prerogative of the higher circles.


    So what's the question? That elite has been gone for 100 years. Hence, there are no "complexes".
    What this citizen says about the Russian language completely violates article 19 of the Constitution on the inadmissibility of discrimination, including on a national basis.
  13. +7
    April 4 2020 06: 59
    For me personally, Pozner is part of the liberal stratum (sorry, cesspools) of Russian society, which itself creeps before the West fool American passport holder negative A true "patriot" bully
    I translate - an empty place Yes request
  14. 0
    April 4 2020 06: 59
    Do not make yourself an idol or any image of what is in the sky above, what is on the earth below, and what is in the water below the earth. Do not worship them and do not serve them; (2 commandment)

    When the Orthodox begin to violate Christian commandments and make a citizen of France, a Jew, an idol, he, this posner, allows himself to periodically spit on the Russian hand, giving him a piece of bread and butter.
    1. 0
      April 4 2020 08: 26
      Quote: Amateur

      When the Orthodox begin to violate Christian commandments and make a citizen of France, a Jew, an idol, he, this posner, allows himself to periodically spit on the Russian hand, giving him a piece of bread and butter.

      He is a Catholic - dad is cross-christened, baptized him into Catholicism
  15. +14
    April 4 2020 07: 03
    One weirdo with a fake-sad face
    “Huddling” in the cabin of his “Porsche”,
    He said: “I am ashamed to be called Russian.
    We are a nation of mediocre drunks. ”

    A solid look, behavior -
    Everything is devised by the devil cunningly.
    But the merciless degeneration virus
    I ingloriously stole everything inside him.

    His soul is not worth a half
    Like a yellow leaf from broken branches.
    But the descendant of the Ethiopians Pushkin
    He was not burdened by his Russianness.

    They considered themselves Russian rightfully
    And they lifted the Motherland from their knees
    The creators of Russian seafaring glory
    Both Bellingshausen and Kruzenshtern.

    And not reconciling with a narrow worldview,
    Trying to look beyond the horizon
    It was considered an honor to be called Russian
    Scots - Greig, de Tolly and Lermont.

    Any of them are admirable,
    After all, to sing homeland is the law for them!
    So he gave his life without regret
    For Russia, Georgian Prince Bagration.

    Our language is multifaceted, accurate, faithful -
    He heals the soul, then smothers like steel.
    Are we able to value him immensely
    And to know him, as the Dane Dahl knew?

    What the hell is it! And in our time a lot of
    Speaking Great Language
    No worse than Ukrainian Mykola Gogol,
    What happened to Pushkin’s sign once?

    Do not bang your head on the wall
    And in a rage saliva sprinkle in vain!
    "We are Russians!" - said Shevchenko.
    Read the kobzar carefully.

    In the soul love is filial cherished,
    All my life I worked up to seven sweats
    Suvorov, Ushakov and Mendeleev,
    Kulibin, Lomonosov and Popov.

    Their names remained on the tablets
    Like a true story of the basics.
    And among them, like a pillar - old Derzhavin,
    In whose veins the blood of the Tatar Murza.

    They go — servants or messiahs —
    Carrying his cross stooped over his shoulders
    How he carried it in the name of all of Russia
    Descendant of the Turk Admiral Kolchak.

    They instilled and nurtured love
    From centuries-old origins and roots.
    He is a Russian whose soul lives in Russia,
    Whose thoughts are about mother, about her.

    Patriotism does not sell to the load
    To berets, boots or coats.
    And since you are ashamed to be called Russian,
    You, my friend, are not Russian. You are nobody.
    1. -7
      April 4 2020 07: 46
      The poems are beautiful and correct, but not about Posner! Or just want to be trendy? You will not find such a thing in Posner! What are you talking about specifically?
      1. +1
        April 4 2020 08: 05
        Quote: smith7
        The poems are beautiful and correct, but not about Posner! Or just want to be trendy? You will not find such a thing in Posner! What are you talking about specifically?

        He is about the "Congress of Russian intellectuals." Do you think Pozner is not worthy of this honor?
        1. -2
          April 4 2020 08: 35
          There is no Pozner's name next to these "beautiful-minded" little ones, the "Congress of Russian intellectuals". Do you think he is "worthy of honor" to be in the same ranks with them? He is 86 years old, he is not THAT close, and he speaks about this or about the general approach to assessing events in every interview or meeting with every character, be it Zemfira or Medvedev. PS Don't think that I am a Posner fan, but I respect the opinion of this person. All that I heard from him was not a lie or goliath propaganda, but only a balanced opinion based on a comprehensive assessment of events.
          1. -3
            April 4 2020 08: 56
            So he writes and runs his restaurant in addition to television books - in his then years!
  16. +11
    April 4 2020 07: 05
    Marasmic. I forgot how in the 90s I didn’t get off the TV screens, enthusiastically praising the "Western world", I was proud that I lived in France, despising everything Russian-Soviet.
    Russophobe in the shoes of a righteous man. It would be my will to deprive such "ideologues" of citizenship by sending them to their beloved West.
  17. +2
    April 4 2020 07: 14
    Posner is trying to impose this complex, our position has been formed for a long time, the Americans are stupid ... Let Zadornova re-read it, not too young. Before whom there is trembling, that man is nonsense, on the contrary, contempt, which can only be their Western gender equality, same-sex marriage and other abominations. Posner gives out wishful thinking.
  18. bar
    +4
    April 4 2020 07: 16
    The opinion of this elderly American Jew is certainly very important to us. laughing
  19. +2
    April 4 2020 07: 17
    And that he did not remember the Byzantine Empire of the time of Constantine? Then almost everyone spoke Greek, and Jews are no exception! Hebrew still does not know a good part of the Jews. Or maybe we’ll remember the times of Egypt’s prosperity? For example, the era of Dionysius! So then there was no primer, and they wrote in those languages ​​to which the clerks belonged, and this is the whole collective farm around the world in flesh to the scribbles of uneducated artists. And at the worst end of the time of Pushkin ... The French language was as a union, and practiced in narrow elite circles and among writers, didn’t Russian practice in narrow circles in Napoleon? Then how did they conduct the dialogue?
    1. +1
      April 4 2020 08: 32
      Quote: Alexey Safronov
      And that he did not remember the Byzantine Empire of the time of Constantine? Then almost everyone spoke Greek, and Jews are no exception! Hebrew still does not know a good part of the Jews. ...?

      So a good part of the Old Testament is written in the international and dominant language of the region - Aramaic, and not in Hebrew
  20. +3
    April 4 2020 07: 19
    Why is this American Zionist still in Russia is not clear. And he constantly teaches. He is that supreme being. Not like some Russians.
  21. +3
    April 4 2020 07: 27
    We can accept the opinion of this person, but we can not accept ... I - do not accept.
  22. +9
    April 4 2020 07: 33
    If Russian tells you that he does not love his homeland, do not believe him, he is not Russian. F.M.Dostoevsky.
    1. +3
      April 4 2020 07: 59
      Quote: Guards turn
      If Russian tells you that he does not love his homeland, do not believe him, he is not Russian. F.M.Dostoevsky.

      Ten! (+)
    2. +1
      April 4 2020 08: 46
      Posner is not Russian, but he does not say that he does not like Russia. He loves Russia, he knows it not by hearsay, he knows our culture. But he is a man of the world! He knows and loves many countries and cultures, Onako, a little worse than Russia and our culture. Say that Pozner Russophobe is impossible. What objective facts testify to this?
  23. +2
    April 4 2020 07: 36
    Posner is simply a dummy Western spill who cannot give a correct assessment of the historical facts. In my opinion, our ancestors spoke French as a tribute to the fashion of that time and respect for the people of the country where the royal power was demolished and became a republic. And not at all because of a feeling of inferiority, this half-American forgot how our people "paid tribute" to all these European people who were in Napoleon's army, there were not only Frenchmen there. The remnants of this army were taken from Russia by force. So with respect, everything is in order with us, we will need it, we will respect it again, as for example in the Second World War.
    1. +1
      April 4 2020 07: 58
      While your ancestors spoke French, mine spoke in Vyatka.
      1. -1
        April 4 2020 08: 00
        You have brains like Posner, you can be proud of.
        1. -2
          April 4 2020 09: 36
          First of all, what are you dissatisfied with, Mr. Nobleman?
          Secondly, you are already funny, because you think everyone around you is dumber than yourself.
          And finally, I doubt your mind, since you so quickly went down to insults.
    2. 0
      April 4 2020 07: 59
      Quote: Ros 56
      Posner is just the dumbass of the western spill, which cannot give a correct assessment of historical facts.

      Spitsyn is very true about him, and said with a good conscience, but the rules of the site .... it is hardly possible to quote his words here ...
    3. +1
      April 4 2020 08: 33
      In 1812, the Russian elite, in a sign of patriotism, began to learn ... Russian
      1. 0
        April 4 2020 10: 08
        Well, what are you saying, but how did they command the soldiers, they didn’t know French and officers were nobles. Russian knew everything, before French, German was popular under Peter
      2. +1
        April 4 2020 12: 26
        Quote: Krasnodar
        In 1812, the Russian elite, in a sign of patriotism, began to learn ... Russian

        Do not write nonsense, it is better to re-read, for example, A.S. Pushkin (if you have read it). Knowledge of the Russian language is not a sufficient sign of patriotism. Moreover, 95% of "patriots" write in Russian with gross errors; they have a poor command of the Russian state language. This is a sign that they do not read the great Russian literature.
        1. -1
          April 5 2020 00: 41
          I write what I read, and not only by a single author. As for Pushkin .... like a cat scientist, and Uncle Chernomor with them? Maybe you still wanted to recommend the War and the World of Tolstoy? Natasha Rostova, Pierre Bezukhov, the war with the French, again ... you know ..
  24. -7
    April 4 2020 07: 39
    Posner argues very logically and there is not an ounce of Russophobia in him, as many here might imagine. I hate this cliché myself, but Posner is one of the best incarnations of the "man of the world." Throughout his long life, he had before his eyes many people of different nationalities from many countries. He perfectly knows what kind of people are worth what. He expresses his thoughts very deliberately and does not impose his opinion, but offers a topic for reflection, offers to comprehend existence. This is in my opinion based on many of his speeches on "zomboyaschiku". Bzuslovno he is a journalist with a capital Same. It would be necessary to read what Posner specifically said in the interview, and not read someone's comments about it. I don’t think that such a highly experienced and wise person (though of Jewish-French nationality laughing ) could express himself on the "slippery issue" sharply and unequivocally.
  25. +1
    April 4 2020 07: 49
    Somewhere right, somewhere wrong.
    Dialectics, her mother.
    But the fact that the media is still looking into the mouth of USA (some scold but watch) - and what’s happening in USA, or about USA, they say - it’s significant ....

    Here's how to increase the production of good aircraft with us, does not say .... only USA, USA, USA ...
  26. +3
    April 4 2020 07: 56
    How amicably both those and those rushed to denounce.
    And now we have pro-Western power. Where did the Russian word volunteer go, it was replaced by a Western volunteer. They come up with pseudo-Russian words, enemies, import substitution, self-isolation. Send US State Revenue. After they optimized medicine, they rushed to help the West.
    Is it really important to you the opinion of some posner. Much more important is what pro-Western power is doing to Russia.
    1. +2
      April 4 2020 08: 16
      Unfortunately, it’s hard to admit, and faith in the guarantor seems to be unlimited, but if he did not establish pro-Western power, he certainly supported and did not destroy it
      1. +8
        April 4 2020 08: 49
        Quote: rotkiv04
        Unfortunately, it’s hard to admit, and faith in the guarantor seems to be unlimited, but if he did not establish pro-Western power, he certainly supported and did not destroy it

        Vera say? Belief in constant deception? Yesterday, during a "direct" speech at the guarantor of promises, the watch on the wrist showed a "crooked" time, and obviously not "direct", the blizzard had already reported that hours for half a lam could lag behind and rush. Lies in everything, always and for any reason.
  27. KCA
    +1
    April 4 2020 07: 57
    Someone interested in the opinion of a Jew and Russophobe about Russia? I'm not there.
  28. +2
    April 4 2020 07: 57
    He has three citizenships - Russia, France [2] and the USA [2] [21
    Deprive of citizenship of Russia, this scum. angry
    1. 0
      April 4 2020 09: 13
      By the way, here is about Posner's triple citizenship and his attitude towards Russia. https://www.interfax.ru/russia/283187. Pozner made a reservation and called the State Duma a state dura. And the Duma responded with "triple citizenship". Well done, but do they "don't notice the logs in the eye"? The only minus in this Intrfax article is that Svanidze, a notorious radical Russophobe and propagandist of the bogey Stalin = Hitler, spoke for Posner. PS I probably shouldn't argue with you. I will not be more, you are most likely unbending!
      1. 0
        April 5 2020 11: 54
        Quote: smith7
        Probably in vain I will polemicize with you. I will not be more, you are most likely inflexible!

        hi I would probably like to be like that. I do not understand the varieties of manure. For me, what is Pozner, what is Svanidze, what is Bykov, what is Gordon, what is Latynina, what ....... is there any number for them - one substance that is unworthy of mention and understanding. On the next branch is N. Mikhalkov (46-40) video :
        - Are you an intellectual?
        L. Gumilev: - No. I have a profession and have a homeland.
        It seems not to minus. hi
  29. 0
    April 4 2020 08: 00
    I read the article and comments ... You just need to announce a competition "Who is the best to praise yourself !?" One elderly senile published his reasoning ... and then it began ... some even surpassed Ukraine with their dug-out reservoirs ... laughing
  30. +2
    April 4 2020 08: 02
    If Pozner’s complex is not complete, this is his personal diagnosis, then the psychotherapist’s treatment did not give the desired effect, let him change and continue treatment.
  31. +2
    April 4 2020 08: 04
    I'll say right away "did not look". I would like to say "this" - the language does not dare to call him a citizen, let alone a comrade - go, go and go again, you know where. Compass and navigator to help you.
  32. +5
    April 4 2020 08: 05
    Rotten and mean-spirited this Posner. And others teaches meanness and rot.
  33. -1
    April 4 2020 08: 10
    He is right in relation to the so-called elite, all this riffraff has real estate over the hill, teaches children there, keeps the loot, even Putin’s closest associates, and he knows it perfectly, but as they say - tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are
  34. +4
    April 4 2020 08: 15
    Only our elites and those who rank themselves among them, such as Posner, have an inferiority complex!
    1. 0
      April 4 2020 12: 20
      I'm not sure that "our elites" exist in nature.
  35. +1
    April 4 2020 08: 16
    I can’t eat, like this vile face with a Russian passport, I will see! angry
  36. +3
    April 4 2020 08: 16
    One could give an analysis of the modern phenomenon, which is becoming increasingly pathological in nature. This is Russophobia of some Russian people ... Previously, they told us, and they really believed that in Russia they hate lawlessness, lack of freedom of the press, and so on and so forth, that it is Europe’s indisputable presence of all this in it .. Now what do we see? As Russia, seeking more freedom, asserts itself more and more, the dislike of these gentlemen only intensifies. They never hated previous institutions so much as they hate modern trends in social thought in Russia. As for Europe, as we see, no violations in the field of justice, morality, and even civilization have in the least reduced their disposition towards it ... In a word, in the phenomenon that I am talking about, there can be no talk of principles as such , only instincts act ...
    (Fedor Ivanovich Tyutchev)

    More than once I came across the fact that someone begins to compare Russia with other countries, of course, in favor of the latter, but when you start poking his nose that everything is not good there, he (!) Begins to say that it doesn’t matter how it is that he is only interested in what we have, and any facts that problems there are simply discarded.
    1. +1
      April 4 2020 09: 40
      Your comment is certainly fair, but this is not the case with what Posner said. I recommend watching the very interview where Pozner is asked not quite clever questions by "a boy and a girl" via Skype. And Posner only drew attention to the fact that the problem of Western worship among the elites in Russia has a long history and that it is inherent in the Russian dislike for America, simultaneously with admiration for the Western way of life. This is not Russophobia.
      1. 0
        April 4 2020 14: 05
        Quote: smith7
        This is not Russophobia.

        What about?
        1. 0
          April 5 2020 22: 37
          This is exactly what he (Posner) said! I realized that this is a long-standing habit of Russian elites to admire everything Western, adopting an alien pseudo-culture, and to blame (sometimes in an implicit, veiled form) for their native land that feeds them. Remember when Peter the Great cut a window to Europe? Since then, the stoha has been pouring shit from us :) by the will of the Romanovs, who succeeded the Rurikovich on the throne as a result of a vague coup including ...
  37. +2
    April 4 2020 08: 18
    I consider Posner an enemy.
    1. 0
      April 4 2020 12: 19
      Are you a journalist?
      1. 0
        April 4 2020 12: 47
        No.
        What is the logic?
        1. 0
          April 4 2020 16: 24
          So, he is not a competitor to you. You don't cross with him anywhere.
          1. 0
            April 4 2020 19: 51
            lol
            Thin...
            Thank you.
  38. +6
    April 4 2020 08: 28
    Posner has a complex. And the vegetable is with him. By the way, let's look at the notorious times of Pushkin. All kinds of governess, home teachers are French, all servants are from the west. Germans, British, Swiss, French and others. An interesting "inferiority complex" among Russians, if in Europe it was considered happiness in Russia to serve.
  39. +4
    April 4 2020 08: 28
    Quote: Doccor18
    I am proud to be Russian! I don’t know what kind of complex there is.

    Yes, the Russians have many complexes, and they can’t be listed. For example, Poplar, Yars, soon Sarmat ...
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  41. 0
    April 4 2020 08: 46
    ... Why was French the most important language at the time of Pushkin? Why was it in French that one should speak, correspond, and not in Russian?

    In modern Russia, everyone speaks and writes in Russian, but still have a complex? Strange logic.
  42. I
    +3
    April 4 2020 08: 47
    Posner, as always, is lying. The inferiority complex (Western worship) is present in some part of the intelligentsia, people, but not all.

    In the 19th century there was such a movement called Westernism and the counterweight to Slavophilism. Westerners believed that Russia should follow the Western model of development. The Slavophils believed that Russia has its own developmental path different from the western one.

    This confrontation still exists. And Posner himself is a Western fan with all the inherent inferiority complex.
    1. 0
      April 4 2020 09: 52
      It is he who says that our elites have this "complex" with all that it implies. Hence the desire of the masses to "shop in Milan", sunbathe in Tenerife, buy real estate in San Francisco, or the inscriptions on shops in Latin letters "PirozhkoFF" for example! And what about the extreme forms of Slavophilism? This is also bad (smells like fascism)! I think Posner is balanced in his judgments, not a Russophobe. And he does not lie "as always", he does not lie at all. He is a journalist with a self-respect for his profession that you will hardly find among his corrupt colleagues.
      1. I
        +2
        April 4 2020 10: 13
        ,, He is a journalist with self-respect for his profession, which you will find little among his corrupt colleagues. ,,

        Well yes. In my opinion, Posner still needs to be searched. In the USSR, he was the mouthpiece of the Communists and the accuser of the West. After the collapse of the USSR, he sharply changed his shoes and began to broadcast the opposite things about the greatness of the West and the Russian complex.

        Nothing personal just business. Here's the selling credo of Posner.
      2. -1
        April 4 2020 10: 54
        Quote: smith7
        It is he who says that our elites have this "complex" with all that it implies. Hence the desire of the masses to "shop in Milan", sunbathe in Tenerife, buy real estate in San Francisco, or the inscriptions on shops in Latin letters "PirozhkoFF" for example! And what about the extreme forms of Slavophilism? This is also bad (smells like fascism)! I think Posner is balanced in his judgments, not a Russophobe. And he does not lie "as always", he does not lie at all. He is a journalist with a self-respect for his profession that you will hardly find among his corrupt colleagues.

        I don’t understand what is wrong with shopping in Milan, sunbathing in Nice and buying property in .... Yokohama? With a normal ruble, rest in Sochi was more expensive than in Europe, with a big difference in the quality of service and the benefits in favor of the latter
  43. +1
    April 4 2020 08: 48
    An inferiority complex is remembered by one who is inferior himself. And Pushkin created in Russian and translated into many languages ​​of the World!
  44. 0
    April 4 2020 08: 50
    Posner Hebrew. that’s why he won’t understand our Russian soul, we’ll give the last shirt away from being naked, but honor and dignity never
    1. -2
      April 4 2020 09: 06
      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
      Posner Hebrew. that’s why he won’t understand our Russian soul, we’ll give the last shirt away from being naked, but honor and dignity never

      lol
      The main thing is to believe! good
      1. +2
        April 4 2020 09: 25
        The main thing is to believe! ... so faith is our EVERYTHING ... a. another steam room, or rather a bath
        1. 0
          April 4 2020 10: 35
          Rather, a sauna, where, in addition to Faith, you can call Hope and Love drinks
          1. +2
            April 5 2020 06: 30
            Rather, a sauna, where, in addition to Faith, one can call Hope and Love ..... Well, it’s necessary to open the interlocutor’s thought so penetratingly,
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  45. +1
    April 4 2020 08: 51
    Posner! Do you sing that?
    And what does "the nature of Americanism and the inferiority complex in front of the West" have to do with it?
    If for hundreds of years on the other side we are constantly threatened by war and often comes, what is it all about?
    If you begin to constantly sprinkle you will be high? Yes you are a masochist hidden simply.
    And the people of Russia do not enjoy the death of relatives and friends from the fact that someone in the West, and in the East, wanted "Lebensraum" instead of Russia !!! The people are not happy that what was built in the sweat of their brow is broken and burned by invaders, as people are being driven into slavery.
    If you are a foster pro-Western bastard from this, so what right do you have called RUSSIAN? You are the usual litter of the West, a rubber item No. 2. And your life will end in the trash anyway, because even their owners do not like traitors !!! am
  46. +3
    April 4 2020 09: 03
    No matter how many people are now indignant at the words of this character, he told the truth in this matter (maybe once in a lifetime before death). Is it not worshiping to write a bunch of signboards to different degrees of wretchedness of the fly flies in English and other foreign languages ​​(despite the fact that there may not be more than one hundred people in these cities in general for a long time)? Is it not cringing to beg their own culture and customs in favor of foreign trends and fashions ( it’s just a complete borrowing without any adaptation and Halloween logic as an example. Is it not crony and inferiority complex that is stupid to call a cleaning lady a cleaning master and stuff like that. No comrades, such a scale and scope speaks precisely of The elite’s and those who successfully promoted this to the masses and we picked up the beats like sheep, and it would never occur to anyone in Europe and any other country except Africa (and not everywhere) to indulge massively and change their language and culture to the original not our own format and traditions, so we are slaves to our prejudices and worship.
  47. 0
    April 4 2020 09: 15
    What can a clever ALCOHOLIC say? He himself admitted that he is a drinker .... Now on isolation itself, so let it remain there, "philosophers" ************************. Better yet, it does not come out of it. hi
    1. 0
      April 4 2020 12: 18
      Quote: jonht
      What can a clever ALCOHOLIC say?

      This is a diagnosis. How did you make this diagnosis Pozner, regularly drink with it?
      1. 0
        April 4 2020 13: 16
        Look on the Internet, there is his interview with a journalist, where he says that he regularly drinks alcohol
        1. +1
          April 4 2020 14: 34
          What for? Drinking alcohol is not prohibited. Well, drank 700 grams ... and stop!
          Some even believe that this is the duty of a Russian person (I, of course, do not agree with them).
    2. +1
      April 4 2020 13: 22
      You want to say that Vysotsky did not tell us anything smart? And Mussorgsky did not write? They were also alcoholics.
      1. 0
        April 5 2020 00: 30
        I, the uncle suffers from alcoholism, it is strange that he is not a poet and not a composer.
  48. +2
    April 4 2020 09: 33
    Posner correctly said everything about the creep of the elites. They are creeping even now. And Pozner, too
  49. 0
    April 4 2020 10: 26
    Well, here you go! What does the elite of the times of the "French roll" have to do with it? They do not exist, they burned down a hundred years ago ... Only miserable remnants, according to the law of nature about unsinking, not the best part, then in the USSR imagined themselves to be the sugar bone of the new Soviet elite, unfolding in full growth after its disappearance. ... here are the "new-old nobles" ... Here they have a complex for the "cattle and wretchedness" of those who raised them, enriched them with their labor. By slave labor on antediluvian machines for a pittance under laughter behind the back, they say what a slavish nature, what terrifying detachments from the wonderful West ... know what they are talking about. But Posner, of course, knew it ... He licked the salt of the question. Yes, so fatherly, so judicious ...
  50. +2
    April 4 2020 10: 39
    Well, while the elite of the former USSR, including the Russian Federation, will hide money in the west and buy real estate))) nothing will change, because there are no conditions, that's when they will come from London and buy an estate in the suburbs of Vladimir) to old age, and send children to study in Moscow, to learn Russian, then something will change, but this requires conditions, but they are not in principle, and each toad praises its swamp)
  51. +1
    April 4 2020 10: 58
    Only you, Mr. Posner, have complexes, and even “our” flawed government. The temporary detention center did not have any disadvantages, I will add in passing, just like the Soviet people in his time.
    But the fact that the top people during the reign of the Romanovs did not speak Russian was because they were all non-Russian, no matter how hard they tried to seem like they were.
  52. +2
    April 4 2020 11: 03
    First of all, anonymous. Secondly. “Inferiority complex” and civilizational (technological, scientific) backwardness are different things in nature, but in this text they are merged into one. Peter I did not have an inferiority complex, but he was fully aware that the European autocrats were ahead, and by 200...300 years. Due to this backwardness, the state Russian language (in which Peter I spoke) did not have a huge number of concepts and, accordingly, terms (words that denote these concepts). I had to learn languages, first of all Dutch (and not French!) - the language of advanced sailors (Peter I didn’t get to the point of England - they limited themselves). As for French. The transition of the ruling class from the “vulgar” (Russian literature did not exist!) Russian language to the “high” French language (the language of international communication!) occurred later with the aim of introducing them to culture and science. And not only the Russian (very narrow) ruling class (aka the cultural layer), but also the German, Polish, largely Austro-Hungarian, and so on. spoke French rather than native languages ​​for the same reasons. It is interesting that the language of Russian natural philosophy (applied science) was German (moreover, “high German” - Hochdeutsch). One of the first to speak out against the “dominance of the Germans” in science was Lomonosov, who, by the way, was one of the first to attend to the creation of a “high Russian language.” Linguistic differentiation in science and culture occurred later, as national sciences and cultures formed.
    “The nature of anti-Americanism” and “adulation to the West” lies, again, in the backwardness of the state and the loss of sovereignty. Moreover, the “lower classes” suspect that the systemic problems of ordinary people are largely related to this, while the “higher classes” most likely realize that they are compradors. And compradors can have neither national pride nor subjectivity.
    1. Cat
      0
      April 4 2020 12: 23
      in which Peter I spoke

      By the way, with enchanting errors. But the German Catherine II is quite competent. But this is true, by the way.
      1. +1
        April 4 2020 14: 31
        Quote: Gato
        By the way, with enchanting errors. But the German Catherine II

        Have you heard it yourself? I can't say anything about this.
        Here is a famous historical joke about Catherine the Great, how to make four mistakes in a three-letter word: “izcho” (instead of “yet”).
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  54. +2
    April 4 2020 11: 30
    Posner draws his conclusions based on the fact that at one time in the Russian Empire, the elites preferred to speak French among themselves. According to Mr. Posner, the inferiority complex was the prerogative of the highest circles

    What an elite, such are its values ​​and inferiorities.
  55. -1
    April 4 2020 12: 06
    when will this scum die?
  56. +2
    April 4 2020 12: 11
    Pozner Vladimir Vladimirovich (hereinafter – PVV). You can treat it differently, but, as for me, it has several obvious advantages:
    1. Enormous experience in the profession. This is a great professional - smart, insightful, ironic. Knows how to ask unpleasant questions and draw non-obvious conclusions.
    2. Erudite. He knows a lot, is well-read, and, most importantly, knows how to apply knowledge in practice. At least in terms of discussion, few can compare with him. Until now, by the way.
    3. To the best of his ability, he tries to be above the fray - such as independent journalism. It doesn't always work out, but he tries, and it shows.

    Of course, it is not without its drawbacks:
    1. Being a representative of our Russian intelligentsia, he loves to teach and speak through his lips. This, in my opinion, is something like a “growing problem” and there is nothing to be surprised here, because the class, namely the class, of well-read, literate and more or less educated people in my country is very young. Something like 300 years - in Europe the first universities were formed in the 13th century, in our country it seems to be in the 18th, and “youth” love to boast about their selfhood.
    2. Being a wealthy and accomplished person, he lives in his own ivory tower. As they say, no comments.
    3. Troll. Moreover, it is quite thin and smart, which is not very good. That is, this is good for cozy forums and zhesheshechki, but not for serious journalism.

    Now for the statement, a quote taken from an interview:
    It seems to me that in Russia there has long been a certain inferiority complex in front of the West; it was in the highest circles. Why was French the most important language during Pushkin's time? Why was it necessary to speak and correspond in French, and not in Russian? After all, it never occurred to the French, for example, to correspond, say, in English, no.

    PVV is smart and therefore tells half-truths and trolls very subtly.
    Yes, indeed, in the highest circles of France it was not customary to write in English, but in our “high” spheres it was customary to write in French and, by the way, in the engineering corps in German, for example, at the Imperial Mining Institute, education took place in German . And this is normal, that is, completely normal in the formation of the socio-linguistic culture of absolutely any nation.
    At the beginning of the 11th century, for example, after the conquest of England by William the Conqueror, the English elite spoke French for a long time. Before this, the French elite spoke what? I think in Latin, because I communicated with Rome. And in ancient Rome, educated people often used Greek in writing. Until the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th centuries, all of Southeast Asia wrote in Chinese characters, that is, in “Wenyan” - a written language.
    All the above examples do not in any way belittle this or that people/language. It’s just that at a certain point in history it was customary - the elites always adopted the languages ​​of their stronger, more developed neighbors, if only because they had to communicate with them more often.
    What am I talking about? What I mean is that from the very beginning Russia lagged behind Western countries in its socio-economic development and we had to learn a lot, and since you need to learn, then you also need to learn the language, and who will learn the language? Of course, those who have access to education, that is, the elite or their inner circle.
    As for the “inferiority complex,” here PVV obviously went too far. I wonder how the nobles, heroes of the War of 1812, fluent in the enemy’s language, would react to his words? I think they would have nailed me on the spot.
    On the other hand, PVV went too far, but the problem of groveling before the West and/or the East exists and its roots are much, much deeper, and the consequences are much more dangerous than the empty French babble of overdressed “Onegins” in front of an uncomprehending slave.
    But PVV, carried away by the desire to annoy the reader, did not illuminate these nuances. It's a pity - he could have.
    I think so.
    1. 0
      April 4 2020 14: 41
      Well, he went too far, as you think, but he identified the problem, and a long-standing problem - since time immemorial they have looked into foreign tourists’ mouths, and even now it’s the same, and not only among the elites, this, as they say, God himself ordered to lick foreign butts, but also among " This is noticeable among the common people, especially among the young.
      1. +1
        April 4 2020 15: 45
        Excuse me, what do we mean by this problem? Everyone already knows her. It has been designated for so long that you can’t even remember – starting with Griboyedov, before the resolutions of the CPSU. From Posner you expect something deeper, more systematic than just designations.
        As for the current situation - here the trend, as I see it, is just the opposite - many more people now travel abroad not only on vacation, but also for work, many communicate with foreign partners within the framework of business and little by little the flair of heavenly life with the “Westerners” " comes off. Especially if you start working with them on technology, that is, in a situation where you need to do a specific thing here and now: launch, set up, hand over to the customer, etc. You see both significant shortcomings and significant advantages, and this puts them on the same level as you and you understand that people have achieved such success not because they are naturally smarter, more hard-working, more organized. No. It’s just that they, I mean the modern West, had the following “goodies”:
        1. A powerful legacy of one of the greatest civilizations in the world, I mean Ancient Rome. We simply did not have this, that is, when the ancestors of the French, Germans, and English communicated/fought/traded with Rome, there were not only states, nor even proper principalities on our lands.
        2. Time. They had a time of quiet development. At the same time, in the main countries of Europe the average “technological” temperature and way of life was the same. That is, even if they fought, it was a war of culturally equal peoples. In our case, the “zaruba” with the Mongols, which actually began with the Battle of Kalka, did not give us significant advantages in terms of technological or social development. As, by the way, the invasion of the Mongols greatly pushed back Central Asia - Khorezm was completely drowned in blood, cities were destroyed, people were trampled or flogged, libraries were burned...
        3. Climate and fossils. The climate is moderate, and the presence of iron ore deposits made it possible to develop metallurgy. In practice, this means that, for example, in the 13th century the Germans could make flamberges - the most difficult swords to make, so their skills in hardware and mechanics came from there. In our country, access to normal deposits was gained only under Peter and development on an industrial scale was carried out by Demidov, and this, excuse the 18th century - a delta of 500 years does its job!
        4. Climate + technology = better harvests and, as a result, an excess of calories, which is transformed into the work of social thought. From here came all sorts of new ideas for the arrangement of society and the emergence of virtually a new religion - Capitalism. Our social thought was generally difficult. Where is there to philosophize when half the country is in the zone of risky agriculture, and guys on horse-riding horses are constantly climbing out of the steppes, who are not particularly predisposed to thinking.
        5. Access to the seas and oceans. Capitalism, in particular, gave impetus to the development of shipbuilding, which entailed a huge number of sciences - it’s impossible to list them all. What about the famous Transatlantic Slave Trade Triangle? Is this when trinkets and axes were brought to Africa, from there slaves to America, and then to England the raw materials from which goods were made? The circle is closed. The key factor here is the very products of technological production - beads, cheap axes, knives and other crap, but this “garbage” must be produced industrially. That is, we need industry. And we have? And we have gas in our apartment. Our pioneers, like Ermak, explained to the locals and forcefully extorted tribute from them. By force, because on an industrial scale they could not offer goods for exchange. And they fought with the locals and died. And for the Englishman, the coastal black man caught his brother from the depths of Africa by beads and brought him straight to the ships on the Ivory Coast. Therefore, now the descendants of this Englishman are rich lords, peers, mayors, but no one knows about the descendants of Ermak.

        In fact, we got a number of developed countries: Great Britain, the Benelux countries, France, Germany and Switzerland, which, in fact, form the core of the European West, its basis.
        It is important to understand that they live so well and everything is organized in their minds so not because they are so smart here and now. No, this is the result of a long, thousand-year historical process of development, the last 300 - 400 years of which they moved in the paradigm of Capitalism.
        And we? We mediocrely “flunked” our specific, Russian path of development and decided to join the general, muddy, European, or more broadly, Western project. Well, in it, like any neophyte, we are destined for a corresponding place, which for some reason many do not like.
        But life does not stand still and the population of my country is increasingly beginning to come into contact with the West, and it is thanks to such professional and everyday communication that sooner or later the concept of “admiration for foreigners” will float into Limbo.
        However, this requires time, but will they give it to us?
        This is perhaps the main question.
        I think so.
        1. +1
          April 5 2020 06: 52
          It is important to understand that they live so well......they live well, but not all of them. or rather just a few
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    April 4 2020 12: 15
    Why was French the most important language at the time of Pushkin? Why was it in French that one should speak, correspond, and not in Russian?

    Classic taking facts out of context. No more than a few percent of the population of the Republic of Ingushetia spoke and corresponded with French. It was used by the nobility in almost all the courts of Europe. What language did the Prussian King Frederick write in? Do you think it's in German?
    This phenomenon is not new and there is nothing special about it. Simply the desire to stand out from the herd brings into the herd those who want to stand out. For example, the Roman nobility preferred Greek, the German riks carefully distorted Latin
  58. +2
    April 4 2020 12: 22
    The surprising thing is that after the Russian elite stopped speaking French, France somehow turned grey, faded and shrunk. Let's wait until the Russian elite stops speaking English?..
    But the Chinese language is complex, with many dialects. Will they master it?
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      April 4 2020 16: 40
      Quote: 1536
      after the Russian elite stopped speaking French, France somehow turned grey, faded and shrunk.

      Original. However, “after” does not mean “as a result of.” Any domestic judge will tell you this in any court.
      “France somehow turned grey, faded and shriveled” - after the Napoleonic wars (unsuccessful), great France fell into the zone of influence of England.
      However, until the end of the Second World War, the official language of “international communication” was French, and let me remind you that thanks to the advanced science of France, we still use the French system of weights and measures. And after the historical defeat of Russia-USSR from the United States, financiers switched to the dollar, the population to the “buck,” oil workers to the “barrel,” and aviation switched to feet and knots. Motorists have switched...you know what. Very often, on a Volkswagen (by the way, the brainchild of German Nazism), the grandchildren of the winners write: “We can do it again!” Do you feel “Great Russian pride” about this?
  59. 0
    April 4 2020 12: 26
    Just a windbag, like many others like him.
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  61. 0
    April 4 2020 13: 03
    Posner. An ordinary journalist, i.e. corrupt talker clown and buffoon....
  62. 0
    April 4 2020 13: 19
    These are the liberoid bastards who are always whining about some kind of inferiority, these are inferior mattress makers - murderers and thieves, bring the old goat to America.
  63. 0
    April 4 2020 13: 26
    It's time to blow this guy's brains out.
    ok smelly.
  64. 0
    April 4 2020 14: 30
    Quote: Mobius
    .And everyone knows this!

    An ironclad argument! Don’t you find it funny yourself? It’s very sad if not.
    1. 0
      April 4 2020 15: 31
      Posner is a TV presenter. Who watches his shows?
      Posner is a writer. Who read and bought his works?
      Posner the restaurateur. Where did the money come from for this?
      That's how it is here. Even if you are even in your old age, you will be paid for books and programs that no one needs.
      Well, something like this.
  65. +1
    April 4 2020 18: 21
    He's already old. I stopped being friends with my head.
  66. +1
    April 4 2020 18: 27
    “It turns out that Posner himself contrasts Russia and the West, trying to correlate himself with one to the detriment of the other. I wonder, in such a situation, Mr. Posner experiences an inferiority complex or believes that they are experiencing an inferiority complex in front of him?..” For this gentleman, like all “liberals and democrats” of Russian pro-Western orientation, the flexibility of the spine is limitless, allowing one to take any advantageous position at the moment... but there are people who trust such figures too.
  67. -1
    April 4 2020 20: 41
    Posner is right ... and Russophobia is a disease or condition of all "Russian elites" without exception, throughout the history of the country .., there is chauvinism in the country, but there is no nationalism ..., "Russian elites" are cosmopolitan, but by simple, they are criminal and mafia, and naturally feel a real inferiority, the problem of the country is that its elite is made up of successful and successful people, but not smart ... therefore, such a situation is inevitable, for once Posner said something reasonable ... better late than never.
  68. +1
    April 4 2020 21: 06
    Posner is wrong that anti-Americanism appeared among us only after 1991, when we were deceived in our best feelings... In fact, this feeling lies deeper and arose much earlier. Russia, due to its vast territory and remoteness from the European centers of civilization, has always been distinguished from other Europeans by a high degree of xenophobia, which was supported by the church (since 1453, the Russian Orthodox Church is actually the church of the “Third Rome”) and the authorities. Reasons for support: it is always easier to control the masses if they are inspired that everyone is an enemy and “those who are not with us are against us.” European countries such as the Netherlands, Czech Republic,
    Hungary and Switzerland are small in territory and have been in contact with their neighbors since time immemorial. I'm not even talking about the microscopic Italian and German duchies, whose inhabitants roamed freely throughout the relatively small central and Western Europe, spoke several languages ​​and were well acquainted with cultural, everyday and other differences (however, insignificant). But in our country everything was different. All foreigners were called “Germans” by us, and Muslims were also called “infidels.” Both with a clear shade of hostility and superiority. It is wrong to think that xenophobia began only after 1917. Even at the everyday level, it was present from eternity, and not only among the uneducated peasants and working people, who had the opinion indicated to them by the landowners and capitalists, but also among the relatively educated part of society. Xenophobia especially developed under Stalin, who indoctrinated the workers and peasants. that there are enemies all around, not only on national and religious grounds, but above all on class ones. These enemies want to take away our natural resources and the “conquests of October” from us, and they want to destroy the people of our country or make them slaves. And the ban on traveling abroad completely deprived our people of contact with ordinary people in other countries and checking what our communist leaders were saying about the West. And they said a lot of lies. That is why, after 1991, many of our people who visited abroad experienced a kind of shock from this discrepancy. That is why many, including some of our first post-communist ministers, experienced euphoria and a reassessment of the actual attitude of the governments of Western countries towards Russia.
  69. -1
    April 4 2020 21: 50
    Only the lazy do not know about Russia’s “inferiority complex” in front of the West, and those who know nothing at all, Posner did not discover America. But his conclusions only evoke a grin and pity about the “depth” of his knowledge.
    The reasons for the real inferiority complex of Russia before the West lie not in the political sphere and not even in the cultural, but in the spiritual - in the compliance, half-heartedness, reticence and, dare I say it, cowardice of our Orthodox hierarchs, the Holy Synod, and its primate, in the issue Orthodox faith in the face of the West and its thousand-year-old inspirer, the Vatican.
    The spiritual truth is that it is one and its name is the Orthodox Church (“the pillar and foundation of the truth”), and there are no more “churches” on earth except self-proclaimed ones. Until our Russian Orthodox Church openly proclaims this and leaves ecumenical gatherings, Russia will not get rid of its spiritual illness.
  70. +4
    April 4 2020 21: 55
    Posner is the bastard who, during the collapse of the Soviet Union, squeezed into the information field of the CIS, this is the bastard who manipulates the thinking of those who do not know and do not understand, this is a worm that eats from the inside. In every truthful and positive information about Russians and about Russia, he puts a drop of crap into the minds of the unstable. In France and the USA no one will listen to him. As they say - without a sucker, life is bad.
  71. +1
    April 5 2020 00: 10
    Anti-Semitic pig - this Posner of yours! Now a Russian person will listen to what all these Shenderovichs/Makareviches are dripping poison on Russia about, and will conclude that ALL JEWS ARE LIKE THIS!... Well, and then, you yourself know - the hatred of peoples towards Jews has never ended in anything good for the latter ...
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      April 5 2020 00: 44
      Quote: Barmentall
      the hatred of peoples towards Jews never ended in anything good for the latter...

      Please list all these peoples specifically.
  72. +2
    April 5 2020 07: 07
    The TV presenter decided to reflect on Russia’s “inferiority complex” in front of the Western world.
    .............why do the West urinate in boiling water when they read the phrase RUSSIANS ARE COMING....they’re probably still afraid of us unwashed
  73. +1
    April 5 2020 09: 51
    No matter what Posner says, no matter what he thinks, the West is our enemy, so it was, so it is and so it will be.
  74. -1
    April 5 2020 10: 34
    Posner would like to live in France.
  75. 0
    April 5 2020 12: 43
    Lord .. someone .. give this parasite lyuli .. like the sent Cossack was. That's how it stays for them!
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  77. +2
    April 5 2020 15: 55
    Posner confuses hot with salty. After the French Revolution, Russia was flooded with emigrants from France (many of whom were rich and educated). It was them who the Russian nobles began to invite as tutors as a result of the low level of education of the Russian middle class and the lack of home teachers. The spread of communication between nobles in French was intended to prevent the peasants from understanding what their owners were talking about. There was no question of any inferiority complex after the defeat of the then anti-Russian NATO in the Napoleonic wars. What an inferiority complex if the Russian army was in Warsaw, Berlin and Paris! Even having an overwhelming advantage in manpower, fleet and technical advantage (fittings, armored propeller ships) in the Crimean War, the then NATO was unable to take Petropavlovsk, the Solovetsky Monastery, break through to St. Petersburg, and they did not completely take Sevastopol. So they couldn't use it as a naval base. Yes, Russia, as a result of its technical backwardness, suffered great losses, but the capture of Sevastopol by the then NATO, as a result of the talent of Russian fortifiers, skill, dedication and training of personnel, was very expensive. So much so that the West could no longer continue the war. Anti-Americanism has its roots: the ingratitude of the United States for helping the Americans in the struggle for American independence, waving atomic weapons in the 40s-50s, the Cold War, US bases near the borders of the USSR, NATO expansion to east, Jackson-Vanik amendments, anti-Soviet and current anti-Russian sanctions.

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