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How to find a responsible president for the future?

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I don’t know how about the coup, which some media and bloggers have amicably voiced about, of course, there is something in this. I mean that Putin allowed the FSO to use technology and everything else. They say it is afraid of a coup and overthrow.


I will say this: not without reason. The ratings go there, the knock comes from there, and everything is in the bottom. So there are reasons. About the fact that the FSO will defend ... Well, this, you know, how to approach the issue.

The number of FSO does not exceed 50 thousand people, and even they are scattered slightly. Well, definitely not a panacea, agree. Well, if the "formidable forces", then the FSO is definitely not an assistant. Well, yes, the plane will cover taking off. No more.

In addition, the FSO does not seem to be intended against the rioting population. For the population there is the Russian Guard and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Against whom then can apply the technique, weapon and not bother with the responsibility of the FSO? Against electoral competitors, or what? It’s also strange, again there will be a godmother with stupid statements (if they persuade Ksenia) and a couple of eternal “oppositionists”.

On Navalny, excuse me, enough of the precinct. And another 30-day arrest.

But I'm completely different. I’m saying that relatively soon (we don’t have time to get sick all) I have to choose. Again, either the election without a choice, or the election of Putin, but something like this will happen in 2024.

And here is a consideration, because we need a responsible president. Able, able, understanding and all that. Putin 2. Just Putin. Putin zeroed, in fact, it does not matter. The important thing is that Russia and its population will need a President. Appropriate.

I have nothing (almost) against it being Putin. But not THIS Putin, but THAT ... Well, you understand, right?

Today’s Putin doesn’t look like a president who can pull Russia out of all the problems.

Probably worth explaining?

Here was a speech. Well, it’s not so badly staged, an ambush came out with a watch, but you must admit, this is not such a jamb. The important thing is NOT HOW, the important thing is what the president said.

But in fact, he did not say anything. Neither new nor useful. Yes, extended the "paid" non-working days. True, he did not explain who and where would take the money to arrange a day off for the country for a month.

Well, at the same time (a beautiful move, by the way, I appreciated) put the problem on the governors. In places it is more visible, closer to the people, here you are with the people and understand. Two governors do not be fools - they rushed to resign on their own, Sobyanin heeded the hints and canceled the pass.

I think in other regions where governors have meat testicles, concessions will begin. Because, excuse me, this 1941 reminds me. When the armies broke down and fled, as the headquarters were the first to drape. No, it was a matter of when the lieutenants and captains pulled out the situation, but now is not the right time to elect, say, people's mayors. Not Crimea with the "Russian spring". Wrong tasks are a bit worth it.

Not very somehow it all looks. They invented fines, threw taxes, punished the earth. And that is all. Further on the ground.

I foresee further flight of governors and mayors, because if people are smart, they will realize that in this situation they will still be suspended in one place. Either because the spread of the virus was not stopped, or because, fighting the virus, half of the companies in the region were killed.

In general, it does not look very good. The man who served as president of Russia for 20 years (well, he was the prime minister, but under which president) seems to give fateful orders aimed no less at the survival of the nation, but ... Somehow, he puts all the responsibility on others.

Moreover, I have already said, so I repeat: no support measures have been proposed. The adopted law “On Supporting Businesses” is designed in such a way that no one will receive the fact of this “assistance”, which is not so much. Well, with the exception of yourself you know whom ... Heroes of Labor of Russia Rotenbergs.

The situation is rocking. It is not known from which to pay a salary - there is no revenue, it is impossible to produce / render services, it is necessary to dismiss workers for salaries and to wait, it is not clear what. Oh yes, you can take a loan. Two is better. To definitely not go anywhere in the future. And then suddenly the business will survive?

And you cannot declare yourself bankrupt. Not the time.

Honestly - I didn’t understand why Putin needed the destruction of small and medium-sized businesses. Probably, they set this task. But what did not work out in 1998 and 2008, in 2020 it turns out not just, but very simple.

Where in a month thousands of employees of small enterprises that were ruined by then will go, Vladimir Vladimirovich is clearly not very interested. And they will have nowhere to go.

You don’t need to follow examples; personally, I have a lot of people around me, completely at a loss from what to live on this suddenly fallen month. An employer (as Putin said) is required to pay a salary. And the point.

Who will pay her seamstress in the studio? Shoe repairman? Auto mechanic? To the tire worker?

In general, everything was somehow thought out ... too in Russian. I will not begin to follow the example again. A trifle: the faucet-box in the mixer at the neighbor broke. They were looking for the whole community, well, in the next entrance, the peasant found a spare. Some strange, German. And nowhere to buy.

We return to the time of the 80s, when in every apartment there should be a supply of candles, light bulbs, crane boxes, switches?

And they are already gone, because there are no those who sell them. Well, those who bet, too. At the same time, enterprises must continue to pay loans, leases and taxes. This has not been canceled. Such is the concern for business.

In general, it turned out very peculiarly. We defended the “Russian world” in the Donbass, fought against fascism in Ukraine, against terrorism in Syria, and saved the population of Italy and the USA from the coronavirus.

But as soon as the question arose that the state should (yes, hell, it should !!!) protect its citizens, that’s all, the state began to merge. No, of course, governors and mayors are also a state, but I think we will also see their backs.

And, except for a bunch of prohibitive measures, I do not observe anything from the state. Nothing. No price controls that just rushed up, nothing like that. You begin to no longer understand, but to be completely confident that you were needed only to cut taxes from you.

And most of all, it’s touching not even the president’s self-isolation among the Valdai beauties, but his self-removal from work.

Announcing a vacation is not a job. This is shifting responsibility to those below. This is not the same Putin, honestly. That Putin walked and solved problems. Good or bad, he went to solve them. And this one ...

And this one, sorry, just transfers responsibility to the regional authorities. And it turns out a very funny situation: the president gives instructions on the introduction of all these strange self-insulating weekends with the due payments. Blaming all hemorrhoids on employers and regional authorities. It turns out that the president is good, and the governors and mayors who will decide on the introduction of quarantines and emergency situations, impose fines, and so on, are bad.

It would seem, why not introduce an emergency mode or quarantine at the worst?

Everything again comes down to money. Remember what Putin promised on March 25th.

“To support those who are on sick leave or have lost their jobs, they will establish a sick leave payment rate. Until the end of the year, these payments will be calculated on the basis of at least a minimum wage, unemployment benefits will increase to the minimum wage level - up to 12 rubles. "

So it all becomes more or less clear. Either there is no money (where then did they go?), Or the desire to pay for a banquet. Therefore, powers (and a headache to raise funds) are transferred to the heads of regions who are starting to quit, realizing what this threatens them with in the future.

And here she is, an old tale of a good king and bad boyars in the field. No? In general, it seems.

Meanwhile, doctors from the same regions are shouting for help, saying that they lack elementary remedies. I already wrote about this. But these remedies are sold / transferred to our "worst friend", that is, the United States. And the USA satellite of Italy.

Strange situation. It would seem that we must first of all take care of our citizens, but in reality? But in reality, somehow it doesn’t work out very well.

I repeat. I am not opposed to Vladimir Putin-2024 becoming president again. But so that it was the president of the model not in 2020, but in 2002.

I want to live well. No matter what.

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  1. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m April 6 2020 04: 58 New
    -13
    The president makes a retinue. And whoever stands in this place, there will immediately be those who want to lick deeper. Whatever the president does, it will be unprecedentedly wise. The media is in the thick of it. And Putin began to change since his portraits appeared in executive offices.
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      1. depressant
        depressant April 6 2020 06: 37 New
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        Hi, Second Pilot, hold on! love
        In general, dear colleagues, it’s sad. The world has become cruel. Here, for example, a man from the USA wrote to a reddit: he got sick with a coronavirus, left the hospital, does not breathe well, his lungs are crusted from the inside, they are stony, fibrosis, a bill of $ 100 thousand was sent from the hospital ...
        And - our realities. I recall the speech of the president. So they made up, as if not Putin himself, but his talking doll. And intonation - as if saying goodbye. Yeltsin, saying goodbye, looked much livelier - in spite of everything he did not look like a political corpse. And what type of resuscitation awaits us? Cruel dictatorship? Heartless monarchy? I hope there will be no escape in a women's dress. Too much will humiliate me.
        1. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb April 6 2020 07: 08 New
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          Want some fun in the morning?

          Quarantine until April 30. Or a vacation. Call it what you want.

          And on April 30, what have we got? Walpurgis Night!
          Probably, Messir Woland will visit Moscow again and see how the local population has changed.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky April 6 2020 08: 18 New
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            Quote: Ilya-spb
            Quarantine until April 30. Or a vacation. Call it what you want.

            And on April 30, what have we got? Walpurgis Night!
            May holidays with barbecue in the country. Although barbecue can be banned due to the beginning of the fire hazard period, it will be possible to plant potatoes.
            1. _Sergei_
              _Sergei_ April 6 2020 09: 22 New
              +9
              Today I took out potatoes for germination. If the heat lasts a week, then I’ll immediately plant
              1. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I April 6 2020 10: 26 New
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                Quote: _Sergey_
                If the heat lasts a week, then I’ll immediately plant

                Эх, жизнь бекова... нас "имеют". а нам некова ! Выбора шибко большого не стало...то ли мы посадим, то ли нас...за нарушение режима "самоизоляции" !...
              2. BAI
                BAI April 6 2020 11: 08 New
                +1
                And who will harvest? Will not work for uncle?
        2. knn54
          knn54 April 6 2020 11: 42 New
          -6
          Если в тему,то ГЛАВНАЯ беда,например, Украины в том,что она "неспроможна БАТЬКА народити".
        3. Chervonny
          Chervonny April 6 2020 15: 07 New
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          Quote: depressant
          The world has become cruel.

          Dear Lyudmila Yakovlevna, the world has long become cruel. sanctions, embargoes, wars, coups, fakes, hatred - all these are realities not only today, but also yesterday, and unfortunately the realities of tomorrow. hi
        4. evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
          evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru April 8 2020 15: 54 New
          +1
          Good day! My comment is, “downstairs” (payment for excessive tact)) If not too lazy - find it. The opinion of adequate and sensible members of the forum I cherish (undisguised flattery)
    2. Far B
      Far B April 6 2020 05: 32 New
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      Whatever the president does, it will be unprecedentedly wise.
      It is unlikely to succeed. No, who was in love with Putin - they will look at him with enamored eyes. For love is evil, you will love it and ... The rest, whose minds have the ability to think in love, have not been turned off, have taken so much from Pu and Co. during this March and early April that their mother does not grieve. In general, one gets the feeling that all this is a well-organized action. True, the author of the action, and indeed the purpose of the action, is still in fog.
      Сегодня вычитал на просторах тырнета, что некое рейтинговое агентство, со ссылкой, как водится, на неназванные, но авторитетные источники в правительстве, имеет сведения, что в этом самом правительстве есть прогноз по наиболее кризисному сценарию. Так вот, по наиболее кризисному сценарию недокарантин может быть продлен аж до сентября (например, вот: «Кризисный сценарий предполагает отмену карантина не ранее сентября 2020 года, что приведет к значительному падению спроса — на 25% и более. Вероятно еще более заметное снижение цен строительными компаниями (на 20-30%) для поддержания <...> уровня продаж», — приводит содержание исследования 6 апреля ТАСС.). Дай, как говорится, бог, чтобы это агентство оказалось со своим "авторитетным источником" очередной "шляпой", потому что не дай бог такого "сценария" - до сентября экономика точно ухнется в тартарары.
      And then another American agency made a fuss, adjusting the forecast for the drop in the level of our economy to more than five percent per year (in the previous forecast it was minus one percent). Onet, the Americans, in fact, argue that all the economies of the world will sag at the end of the year, but this is somehow little consolation.
      Как говаривал Попандопуло: "Сдается мине, шо мы накануне грандиозного шухера"...
      Threat. And Putin’s model of any year is unnecessary, as for me. We need someone who turns the country to socialism. IMHO.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee April 6 2020 05: 43 New
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        Hiccups, hiccups, go to Fedota,
        From Fedot to Jacob,
        From Jacob to everyone
        And from everyone
        And you leave hiccups from Fedot and from Jacob,
        To my own swamps.
        Bow to you mud
        In a deep bog. request
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins April 6 2020 06: 41 New
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          Мультфильм "Падал прошлогодний снег...":
          -... А кто здесь крайний в цари? Никого?!! Ну, так я первым буду!...")))
          1. Chervonny
            Chervonny April 6 2020 15: 11 New
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            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Мультфильм "Падал прошлогодний снег...":
            -... А кто здесь крайний в цари? Никого?!! Ну, так я первым буду!...")))

            не получится, очередь уже занята. в сегодняшней реальности, власти в период трансферта высшей власти, а по настоящему в период передачи власти и собственности "второму поколению" (большинство сановников власти и олигархов уже не молоды) не нужны не только сильные неподконтрольные элементы, но и элементы, которые в определенных условиях могут стать неподконтрольными.
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        1. Far B
          Far B April 6 2020 05: 51 New
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          I wonder what 10000 citizens do that have food supplies for a week for a month or even less?
          10000? It seems you have lost a toe somewhere. Or even two.
          I do not know what to do. Plant potatoes. To the will, in the pampas to blame, where the bananas grow ... Ah, damn it, the borders are closed. I see two options for the development of the situation - either the people will change something from below, or the authorities will scratch the poppy and begin to change it from above. A third is not given, in such a suspended state as now, we certainly will not stay.
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            1. Far B
              Far B April 6 2020 06: 02 New
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              Why are you asking me what is easier for the president and what is not? We do not drink on Saturdays, he does not consult with me. Perhaps in vain, I would advise him laughing
              1. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan April 6 2020 11: 16 New
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                He must be asked what people should live on. I have a piecework salary, no customers, no money. And how do I feed my family? And there are many like me. And what do we do? To take pitchfork?
          2. YOUR
            YOUR April 6 2020 06: 18 New
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            It was always not the authorities' desire to tell the truth that surprised me. And now the country is in a difficult situation. They themselves introduced self-isolation, for some reason, quarantine or emergency did not dare.
            Hundreds of hospitals have been freed from treated patients. They are empty. Why? Wacky precaution or preparation for something more global and terrible? A bunch of questions.
            Answer from Peskov, get ready for even worse.
            And where is the President, and he is locked up and every day they do tests for him. repeat Hmm somehow ambiguously happened. This type of sand reassured the people.
            And then there is his law of 01.04.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX on the Federal Security Service permitting the use of military equipment and weapons without regard to the damage caused. What is this for? Who needs a warning?
            I transferred my powers to the governors, measures ..... do what you want, enter an emergency, cancel, enter fines, I'm sick.
            A strange feeling.
            Post videos from Italy where the devil knows what’s going on. People are trying to somehow support each other, have fun, from the USA the same thing and we have a gloomy feeling of loneliness. Silence. The windows overlook the school, sometimes visited dreams that will become quiet, just buzz when the holidays begin. Now he’s ready to run and scream there. Silence crushes.
            A relative from Krasnodar called today, she says. Measures introduced draconian, fines prohibitive. You can go out into the street only if you have a pass, in order to get you need to register in public services. We tried to get it through the Internet, the queue is scheduled for 2 years. They also advised you to go in person. They came, there is a crowd of several thousand people. This is called quarantine. They themselves create the conditions for distribution.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar April 6 2020 06: 36 New
              +7
              More about Krasnodar is possible? )) I visited the bank on Friday, in the city center, no one slowed down recourse
              1. YOUR
                YOUR April 6 2020 07: 54 New
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                No problem https://www.kuban.kp.ru/daily/27112/4189648/
                I can still throw how people are being fined about what is written in the Krasnodar newspapers. After talking with a relative, I rushed to look on the network, dug up decently.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar April 6 2020 07: 59 New
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                  Thanks - I'll see
              2. YOUR
                YOUR April 6 2020 07: 56 New
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                I hope you do not think that my sick imagination has broken out. Here is more information - https://ria.ru/20200402/1569495870.html
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar April 6 2020 08: 30 New
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                  Quote: YOUR
                  I hope you do not think that my sick imagination has broken out. Here is more information - https://ria.ru/20200402/1569495870.html

                  Ok, thanks - I’ll be visiting the bank in the hypermarket building hi
                2. Mikhail m
                  Mikhail m April 6 2020 09: 52 New
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                  Looked at the link.
                  "В состав отрядов самоконтроля, которые работают на улицах городов и станиц Кубани, вошли 3318 сотрудников полиции, казаков, представителей органов местного самоуправления и общественников."
                  What are the Cossacks, representatives of local government and public figures doing on the streets? Do they have any legal status? I can definitely ask on the same grounds why they do not comply with quarantine. And require a police officer to write them a fine.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar April 6 2020 09: 57 New
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                    Since the time of Tkachev they have a legal status, help the police, get paid)). Once, according to the stories of Krasnodar residents, these Cossacks helped reduce street crime in the city
                    1. New Year day
                      New Year day April 6 2020 14: 26 New
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                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      these Cossacks helped reduce street crime in the city

                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      according to the stories of Krasnodar

                      so sit in your Krasnodar, do not export them to us
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar April 6 2020 15: 57 New
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                        Quote: Silvestr

                        so sit in your Krasnodar, do not export them to us

                        So I did not offer them to anyone, like laughing Are you afraid of additional forces on the side of the Russian Guard? )))
                      2. Revival
                        Revival April 8 2020 23: 05 New
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                        No, it’s more likely that the mummers clowns are definitely not needed
                3. New Year day
                  New Year day April 6 2020 14: 24 New
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                  Quote: Mikhail M
                  What are the Cossacks, representatives of local government and public figures doing on the streets?

                  good question! And what did they always do in the settlement of Ilyich, when they drove off traveling to the Crimea? What do they do at the entrance to the Crimean bridge, repeating the shmon?
                  What do they do in Yalta, protecting the embankment from people?
                  Maybe they don’t want to work?
                4. New Year day
                  New Year day April 6 2020 14: 28 New
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                  Quote: Mikhail M
                  Do they have any legal status?

                  loafers their status. When the Krasnodar Territory works in the fields, gardens and resorts, crowds of Cossacks hang around the country, depicting rescuers
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar April 6 2020 16: 01 New
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                    Quote: Silvestr

                    loafers their status. When the Krasnodar Territory works in the fields, gardens and resorts, crowds of Cossacks hang around the country, depicting rescuers

                    So I live in Krasnodar and it’s neither cold nor hot from them - on the contrary, they add some local flavor to the city ... and what they didn’t please Muscovites with is not clear request And in general - you live yourself - let others live
          3. Overlock
            Overlock April 6 2020 10: 03 New
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            Quote: YOUR
            from Krasnodar today called, tells. Measures introduced draconian, fines prohibitive. You can go out into the street only if you have a pass, in order to get you need to register in public services. They tried to get through the Internet, the queue is scheduled for 2 years.

            sample of a DUFT quarantine solution. In response, a sharp negative in the direction of power.
          4. BAI
            BAI April 6 2020 11: 12 New
            +3
            Hundreds of hospitals have been freed from treated patients. They are empty. Why?

            Coronovirus is transmitted through sewers. 30% of hospitals (according to the Accounts Chamber) have sewage problems, 879 do not have sewage at all. 21 century. 879 hospitals do not have sewers.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day April 6 2020 14: 28 New
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              Quote: BAI
              30% of hospitals (according to the Accounting Chamber) have problems with sewage

              what about ventilation in hospitals
          5. ycuce234-san
            ycuce234-san April 6 2020 11: 29 New
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            В среднем инкубационный период COVID-19 длится 5,1 дня, а симптомы проявляются в течение 11,5 дней - "месячные каникулы" это, примерно, 6 инкубационных и 3 периода болезней/носительства. Почти наверняка этого хватит для того чтобы сбить масштаб заражения, так как зараженные люди болеют и выздоравливают, в основном, в одиночестве а вирус во внешней среде устойчив в течении нескольких дней. Важнее принять меры впредь и усилить контроль за болезнями, денег выделить на фундаментальные исследования в необходимых областях и модернизировать медпромышленность.
          6. Bshkaus
            Bshkaus April 7 2020 13: 19 New
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            And then there is his law dated 01.04.2020 on the FSO permission to use military equipment and weapons without regard to the damage caused. What is this for?

            This is to ensure that the Romanian secretariat lasted in battles with the regular army of Romania for about a day ...
            The latter (army), we must pay tribute to the fact that she took on the dirty work and asked the civilian population not to go pointlessly under the bullets.
            What happened next, everyone knows ...
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 6 2020 10: 00 New
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          Quote: Dalny V
          I see two options for the development of the situation - either the people will begin to change something from below, or the authorities will scratch the poppy and begin to change it from above.

          The people will not be able to change anything for a reason: they are excommunicated from decision-making
          The authorities scratch their head, only the vertical was built on a completely different principle, the result is negative.
          There is a situation in Lenin:
          “For the revolution, it is not enough that the lower classes do not want to live as before. It also requires that the tops could not manage and manage, as before. ”
    3. Cyrus
      Cyrus April 6 2020 06: 38 New
      +8
      There was nothing to wipe Socialism, but it won’t work back, but in general I began to notice how brave the mice became, how impudent ...
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      2. Chervonny
        Chervonny April 6 2020 15: 17 New
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        Quote: Cyrus
        return it will not work

        ой ли? как говорится в поговорке: "не говори гоп, пока не перепрыгнешь".
        to get out of the political and economic crisis, we have only one way, the way to return to the Soviet system! there is no other way.
    4. Svarog
      Svarog April 6 2020 07: 21 New
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      Quote: Dalny V
      Threat. And Putin’s model of any year is unnecessary, as for me. We need someone who turns the country to socialism. IMHO.

      I completely agree. Who cares if he acts as a capitalist ..
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan April 6 2020 11: 46 New
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        And which one is the capitalist? He is a former communist. He gave the oath to protect the people, twice as much - once in the KGB, and then several times he swore by the president on the Constitution. And now this Constitution is torn in the tail and in the mane.
      2. Dwellernet
        Dwellernet April 6 2020 15: 34 New
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        He is not a capitalist. He is the leader of the Papuans, who, using the stupidity of the tribe, sells resources for glass beads. And the fewer Papuans left in the tribe, the more bananas he will be able to drive into the metropolis. And at the same time he thinks that having sold his homeland, he will leave for the metropolis, where he will live happily, ringing with these beads. He also has a shaman who rides in an expensive palanquin and fumigates the main village from evil spirits.
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    6. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs April 6 2020 09: 40 New
      -2
      Забыть.Пока. Социализм ? Только не сейчас. Ленин уже писал- читайте. Сейчас Ленин - цитата "....дед старый...." Так что.....Чтобы "выкрутиться" и "догнать" только капитализм-с его жесткой формой. Или Сталин с гулагом. ВСЕ!!! Больше ничего нет.
    7. Overlock
      Overlock April 6 2020 09: 56 New
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      Quote: Dalny V
      No, who was in love with Putin - they will look at him with enamored eyes.

      the number has fallen. Putin’s electorate - pensioners, in whom everything has worsened, the state employee - they have everything to do, the power block - so far. But time is running out. everything flows, everything changes.
      Quote: Dalny V
      .... to a significant drop in demand - by 25% or more.

      in the current situation, by June 1, unemployed in Moscow + 1 million, the country + 8-9 million. The further, the more
      Coronovirus does its job ...
      Quote: Dalny V
      "Сдается мине, шо мы накануне грандиозного шухера"...
    8. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 6 2020 11: 07 New
      +8
      Quote: Dalny V
      who was in love with Putin-and they will look at him with enamored eyes.

    9. Matroskin
      Matroskin April 6 2020 15: 50 New
      +7
      Quote: Dalny V
      We need someone who turns the country to socialism.

      Michael, I wonder how you see it? Will a good uncle come and turn in the right direction? This does not happen. The state is the power of the ruling class. That's when people will feel really bad and they will begin to organize themselves in trade unions, councils, create mutual assistance cash desks (at least among relatives and friends), then there will be reasons for the transition to socialism. The Soviet Union is the power of the SOVIETS, and not some president-official. For many, the phrase Soviet Union is some kind of white noise. I repeat the Union of TIPS. Now, people are not able to solve the problem of the entrance, which means they are not ready to take responsibility on themselves and are waiting for a good uncle.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 April 8 2020 15: 22 New
        +1
        But there really was no Soviet power, except for a short period at the end of perestroika. There was the power of the party and the executive branch, subordinate to the party leadership.
        1. Matroskin
          Matroskin April 9 2020 14: 24 New
          0
          Sergey, I agree, was not and therefore the Union was doomed. But you are mistaken, the power of the Soviets, nevertheless, was not at the end of perestroika, for starters you can find https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5% D1% 82% D1% 8B
          If you carefully read the Stalinist Constitution of 1936, it is easy to notice that the party appears there only once in the 125th article, this is an article about public organizations. It said that the party is the core of public organizations. Not the leading force of the country and society, which it became in the Brezhnev Constitution, but only the core of the social strata.
          It was after Stalin’s death that the party nomenclature squared its shoulders, elitized, and led the Union to collapse (paradox, direct democracy was kept only by the powerful authority of the leader. Although, how then was this new device of society kept afloat, even for two generations, so that people grow up with new consciousness and being? Again, the Constitution of 36g did not last long, democracy is harmful in the war. So it turns out ... there was not enough time and effort). As now, in these conditions, the transition to socialism and direct democracy will be possible, no one knows (careerists, skins and hucksters do not go anywhere, and Stalin’s methods, in our time, will not be accepted by society. 37 years is precisely the result of social life: hard life, bad medicine, hunger riots, war, revolution, war, revolution, war again, banditry How much could anyone see from 1905 to 1920, for example, the value of life? You can read workers' letters about what to do with the enemies of the people. whether a 30-year-old man born in 1890 per person Ages 1990?). But this is not a utopia. This will happen as a result of the historical process and maybe in 100 years, or maybe in 10. Look out the window
    10. Altona
      Altona April 6 2020 20: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Dalny V
      Threat. And Putin’s model of any year is unnecessary, as for me.

      --------------------------------------
      Если говорить медицине по-взрослому, а не так как сейчас, то в главе государства.... Впрочем, почитайте определение "социопат" и всё встанет на свои места.
    11. nekromonger
      nekromonger April 7 2020 17: 05 New
      0
      I agree about putena, but depending on which socialism, if it’s Swedish, then with two hands I am for, but if it’s a scoop ...
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  3. Finches
    Finches April 6 2020 06: 56 New
    -26
    Велено дома сидеть! Сиди! В 1654 году, когда в Москву пришла чума, аккурат с Украиной Россия воссоединилась...Интересное совпадение! Царь-батюшка Алексей Михайлович особо паниковать не стал: отцепил город войсками, кардоны закрыл, чумные дома и дворы сжигал со всем скрабом, почта, даже дипломатическая вскрывалась - оригинал переписывался и сжигался, копия шла адресату...Вышел какой-нибудь малахольный в карантинные дни песика выгулять - седалищем на кол! Европа и тогда указывала на недопустимость столь жестких мер! Потом царь-батюшка вообще границы закрыл и с Англией, где чума начала ширится, все отношения прервал от слова совсем - Европа и вовсе потешаться начала над "рюський варвар" - итог - 6 000 с копейками в Москве покойников и 40% населения всего "просвещенного" Лондона! У нас за весь период эпидемии, а у них смертность до 7 000 в неделю доходила...То же небось в наших подворотнях царя-батюшку ругали, мол купцы разоряться, кран-буксу достать негде...А то что именно торгаши чуму в Столицу завезли из ещененашего Крыма всем до фени! Особенно мертвым - у них разом все проблемы были решины и никакие кран-буксы заморские уже нужны не были! laughing
    1. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb April 6 2020 07: 13 New
      +4
      Interesting fact!
    2. basmach
      basmach April 6 2020 07: 49 New
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      Ну так это Вы, Зяблинцев, с армейской пенсией можете дома сидеть. А у большинства её нет, а кушать, ЖКХ платить, кредиты и пр. налоги им надо. А с чего-может Вы поделитесь?. Нет? Тогда лучше молчите со своим вечным оправданием власти в целом и ВВП в частности. Власть довела своими "умелыми" действиями ситуацию до отметки, когда стоит перед выбором-голодные бунты или массовая эпидемия с последующими бунтами. самоустраняется и готовится защищать себя всеми возможными способами. Причем это решено не 1 апреля, а гораздо раньше- с создания Росгвардии.
      1. YOUR
        YOUR April 6 2020 08: 13 New
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        Venezuela, which we help, which is exhausted from oppression, and so on.

        For example, here are some of the support measures that Venezuela provides to its citizens - a country that is not in the best economic position:

        The state will take on the wages of all government employees, employees of state enterprises and private enterprises (!) Over the next 6 months to ensure that they can stay at home.

        A presidential decree prohibits the dismissal of employees until December 31 of the current year.

        It is forbidden to charge rent for the next 6 months.

        It is forbidden to charge installments and interest on any type of financing.

        Payment for electricity, water and gas is suspended for an indefinite period.

        7 million families will receive a basic food basket every 15 days during the state of emergency.

        What prevents us from introducing such clear and effective measures in our country? Plus, every citizen of Russia should receive material support.

        Source: https://www.mk.ru/social/2020/04/05/povalnoe-obnishhanie-rossiyan-mozhet-stat-strashnee-koronavirusa.html
        1. Revival
          Revival April 8 2020 23: 12 New
          +3
          Here on such comments defenders shut up and are silent like dead fish.
          Aw! Vadim237, the tadpole and the rest, ay! What do you have there? Silence ... expected
      2. Finches
        Finches April 6 2020 08: 27 New
        -41
        If you’re so smart, why aren’t you running for president? By the way, I’m still working ... Currently remotely hi
        1. YOUR
          YOUR April 6 2020 09: 25 New
          29
          Grudinin tried, still bones are gnawing
          1. Finches
            Finches April 6 2020 09: 27 New
            -33
            Which red oligarch? I believed him as myself ... He reminds me of Trotsky somehow! laughing
            1. basmach
              basmach April 6 2020 11: 46 New
              +7
              Those. You yourself are Trotsky, judging by your phrase.
        2. basmach
          basmach April 6 2020 11: 45 New
          18
          HA is not to be rude, rudeness is the first sign of limitation. And to me, unlike you, remotely no matter how. Well, you can’t carry out commissioning of instrumentation and automation equipment remotely .. Or on vacation at your own expense (and teeth on the shelf) - or at random (in the hope that I will not get sick, but if I get sick, I’ll recover and do not grunt). And I’m not going to the presidency, because I’m just smart. and not thieving. In modern times, such people are not honored. And by the way, your nickname is what. Well I wrote about retirement, as a basic income. But I spoke yesterday with a bro (trucker), I work on a shift for 15 days. It is already ending, but he only did ONE flight, and before, he did 4. And he has a question, but he has a pension, he doesn’t have any.
          1. Finches
            Finches April 6 2020 15: 48 New
            -5
            You see, all smart and non-thieving people are sitting at home and do not go to power, but they demand justice from the government! And who will do it - if in the power of duraki and corruption alone? No - I’m not Trotsky, but I can’t understand why Grudinin so fascinated you? Only by the fact that he is not so tattered with guano as Zyuganov. And it's nice to say - everyone can! I can carry nonsense about Russian injustice for 24 hours and what, will it disappear from my boltology somewhere? No!
            As for retirement - here, if you use the words of one song - I served her in full Ata-bata! Ситуация сложная я не спорю. Особенно для мелкого частного бизнеса...Но предприятия непрерывного цикла работают, школы и университеты (в урезанном составе), но преподаватели работают, больницы работают, продуктовые магазины работают, строители все работают, армия, Росгвардия и т.д. служат, чиновники на местах...Если посчитать, я думаю, вместе с пенсами - процентов 70, если не больше, страны деньги получают! Фермеры, обслуживают технику и готовятся к посевной! Рыбаки на промыслах в море, газовики и нефтяники на вахтах! Не надо делать трагедию Вселенского масштаба из ничего... Если такие меры приняты государством - значит есть причина! Я специально из истории пример привел через призму сравнения с "просвещенной" Европой...А все бестолку!
            1. Revival
              Revival April 8 2020 23: 18 New
              +1
              And what about the support prism in Germany, USA, of this example:
              "Вот, например, некоторые из мер поддержки, которые обеспечивает своим гражданам Венесуэла — страна, находящаяся не в лучшем экономическом положении:

              The state will take on the wages of all government employees, employees of state enterprises and private enterprises (!) Over the next 6 months to ensure that they can stay at home.

              A presidential decree prohibits the dismissal of employees until December 31 of the current year.

              It is forbidden to charge rent for the next 6 months.

              It is forbidden to charge installments and interest on any type of financing.

              Payment for electricity, water and gas is suspended for an indefinite period.

              7 million families will receive a basic food basket every 15 days during the state of emergency.
              What prevents us from introducing such clear and effective measures in our country? Plus, every citizen of Russia should receive material support.
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      1. _Sergei_
        _Sergei_ April 6 2020 09: 27 New
        -24
        We live normally. Getting ready for sowing. And here once Skomorokhov opened his eyes, it turns out everything is bad and someone is stopping us from picking up a shovel.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 6 2020 10: 12 New
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          Quote: _Sergey_
          We live normally. Getting ready for sowing.

          YOU speak for the local level or in the whole country?
          So the Ministry of Agriculture proposed to reset duties on the import of agricultural products and products to Russia. What is it for? Did their agricultural producers ask themselves to be killed or is there something wrong with the food in the country?
          1. depressant
            depressant April 6 2020 11: 36 New
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            Семян нет в стране, семян для масштабных посевов! Когда Матвиенко об этом узнала, сделала квадратно-гнездовые глаза и разразилась гневной речью: "Как это нет семян?" Столько лет мадам участвовала в управлении страной и не знала, что семеноводство в стране загублено на корню, как и сопутствующие научно-исследовательские организации. А тут --вирусные кордоны, пришлось переобуваться на ходу. Господи, кто у власти...
        2. Banshee
          April 6 2020 16: 31 New
          +3
          Don’t read with a shovel, right? Just try without a shovel. Maybe it will.
      2. Overlock
        Overlock April 6 2020 10: 08 New
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        Quote: 30 vis
        Now they will try to rock the situation in the country.

        Who is rocking her? Virus, inaction of the authorities or vice versa, its stupidity? Sebastopol’s self-blockade strengthens power?
    4. Overlock
      Overlock April 6 2020 10: 05 New
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      Quote: Finches
      It is ordered to sit at home! Sit down

      so they sat not in high-rise buildings, but in their courtyards where food was running, supplies were lying and money was not needed for this.
      Now the bulk of the population lives in the city, and there pigs do not run, cows do not moo, and in stores they demand for all the money
      1. Revival
        Revival April 8 2020 23: 21 New
        0
        Yes, he just trolls pretending to be the appropriate angle at the square
    5. Moon
      Moon April 6 2020 11: 00 New
      +5
      Quote: Finches
      Потом царь-батюшка вообще границы закрыл и с Англией, где чума начала ширится, все отношения прервал от слова совсем - Европа и вовсе потешаться начала над "рюський варвар" - итог - 6 000 с копейками в Москве покойников и 40% населения всего "просвещенного" Лондона! У нас за весь период эпидемии, а у них смертность до 7 000 в неделю доходила.

      again stamps about Russia and Europe.
      Yes, they didn’t wash
      The son of Macarius III, Pavel Aleppo, reported about 480 thousand deaths from the pestilence in Moscow, but this figure is clearly overstated. W. Prido reported that in Moscow from the plague "died and was buried, according to registration, more than 200 thousand, not counting several thousand bodies that did not find another grave, like in the intestines of dogs and pigs." Johann de Rhodes reported more than 200 thousand dead in Moscow and around it. Baron A. Meyerberg reported about 70 thousand dead. In the manuscript mentioned by L. F. Zmeev, “About the Plague that Was in Russia and Especially in Kazan in 7162”, 400 thousand dead are mentioned.
      The historian E. Zvyagintsev wrote that "there were up to 1654 thousand people who died from the plague of 150 in Moscow, that is, more than half of the total number of Muscovites." Brickner suggested that more than half of the capital’s population died. According to Vysotsky’s estimates, 6 people died, and according to F. A. Derbek, 095 6. Alexander speaks of 197 dead, and calls the figures of several hundred thousand dead unrealistic, since, in his opinion, the population of Moscow was no more than 6 thousand people [.
      The main source of victims in Moscow, a report by Kuzma Moshnin on December 17, 1654, indicates a high mortality rate in the capital

      as we see, we take convenient numbers.
      A London in 100 thousand victims.
      Moscow-200 thousand population
      London (the plague during which approximately 100 people died, 000% of the population of London.) -20 thousand population
      And in London 100 thousand I believe more. And domestic ones are very different. And if you take the average, the figures are terrifying.
      And if you also read about the plague itself, the hair stand on end ..
      I don’t understand how it can be used in an information war?
      The plague demographically strongly crippled Russia - and here they boast that they say it’s better than in London ..
      Tsar the priest was just lucky to be at the military, the war was on.
      And so they died that to know that the mob.
      And they treated only with the military.
      In general, the picture is terrible. Once again, I don’t understand how it can be exposed as my own superiority?
      1. Operator
        Operator April 6 2020 11: 42 New
        +3
        In the 17th century, the English toad tortured that the then population of London lived in high-rise dugouts with street sewers and, therefore, died of any epidemic like flies, and the population of Moscow lived in urban family estates with separate latrines that allowed localizing the foci of infection.

        "Учите матчасть" (С)
      2. Finches
        Finches April 6 2020 21: 19 New
        +1
        There is no superiority - but a historical fact! You can say anything you like, but the moral figures are the best historical evidence. hi And it is precisely the numbers - and not the drawn conventions - that are the proof in history! This, you know, your comment recalls - the justification of France - it had the strongest army in Europe, but capitulated after 40 days, and in Russia, not a Russian soldier won, and Germany reached Moscow so far ... They advised you correctly - learn the materiel!
    6. Chervonny
      Chervonny April 6 2020 15: 29 New
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      Quote: Finches
      Some kind of malacholny quarantineed dog came out for a walk - with his seat on the stake!

      Now it would be so, right? Zyablitsov went to the store for bread, and his DAC police, yeah Zyablitsev violate quarantine, count it! I do not insult, it’s just sarcasm. agree that such measures do not contribute to improving the image of power. She, the authorities, can’t improve her face in the eyes of Russian citizens. and about the epidemic, so we have more people die from flu and turbulence.
      1. Finches
        Finches April 6 2020 21: 13 New
        -5
        So I don’t understand - your problem is what - the quarantine is ordered to pay the employer - this is exactly what the GDP said - my employer pays for my quarantine! If your does not pay-GDP then what does it have to do with?
        1. Revival
          Revival April 8 2020 23: 24 New
          +1
          And control over whom? Who built the system where the employer calmly lays down the words from the screen?
  4. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 April 6 2020 07: 34 New
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    Quote: Mikhail M
    The president makes a retinue.

    работа начальника это подбирать ответственных людей и контролировать исполнение поручений. Портреты Сталина тоже висели везде.. История разговора Иосифа и Василия Сталиных - "Ты думаешь ты Сталин? спрашивает Иосиф Виссарионович, - "Или я Сталин?", " Нет, это он Сталин" и показывает на собственный портрет.
  5. Overlock
    Overlock April 6 2020 09: 46 New
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    Quote: Mikhail M
    The president makes a retinue. And whoever stands in this place, there will immediately be those who want to lick deeper.

    This is where the role of personality arises!
    “I had two paths: First: to put friends and relatives on the Forbes lists, while leaving my people on bare ground. Second: it is to serve your people and bring the country to the top ten best countries in the world. I chose the second ... "First Prime Minister of the Republic of Singapore Lee Kuan Yu
    1. depressant
      depressant April 6 2020 15: 29 New
      +5
      Overlock, well, made me excited! )) I began to read the quote - really? - did Putin really have such thoughts?!? And then I read: Lee Kuan Yu. recourse
  6. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener April 6 2020 12: 27 New
    +2
    The retinue makes a bad ruler. Stalin and Ivan 4 took a different approach, and very successfully.
  7. Chervonny
    Chervonny April 6 2020 15: 03 New
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    Quote: Mikhail M
    The president makes a retinue.

    who picks up a retinue? by chance not the president?
  • apro
    apro April 6 2020 05: 07 New
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    Elections are needed to legitimize power. And power is taken by force ... and how not to change Putin, you will get Putin anyway. The system puts forward those who will defend their interests. And the interests of the population, insofar as ... the population is not a system.
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    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 April 6 2020 07: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: apro
      interests of the population as far as ... the population is not a system.

      population is a product of the information field. The opinion of the population is the opinion of one person. Averaged. Today it is a consumer. Social influence is negligible
      Quote: apro
      the system puts forward those who will defend their interests.
      the system today is agents of influence, intergrown with power, with banks, with mineral resources .. However, power, banks and mineral resources are not a homogeneous structure, it is full of contradictions, Putin allows them to live, everyone. And Bolivar cannot stand two laughing Someone will shoot first. The only one who could stand in the interests of the people is a military man. IMHO
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan April 6 2020 12: 00 New
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        Грудинин не военный, а посмотрите на Ютюбе видео про его совхоз, сразу поймёте, как много он для людей сделал и его совхоз на фоне всей России выглядит просто превосходно. Поэтому власть и оболгала его, так как сравнение жизни в его совхозе и жизни в России идёт не на пользу власти. Потому что люди могут спросить у власти: "Почему Грудинин смог обеспечить достойную жизнь людям в своём совхозе, а правительство в России так же сделать не может?"
    3. Chervonny
      Chervonny April 6 2020 15: 31 New
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      the current system cannot exist without redistributing resources in the interests of a certain group of individuals. any white (or at least a white speck) crow causes an attack of insane hatred. and if it is also a representative of a system with different views, as an example with pro-Soviet views, then the mind generally refuses the system.
  • Valery Valery
    Valery Valery April 6 2020 05: 11 New
    -56
    Another stuffing of lies and filth.
    1. Igor K
      Igor K April 6 2020 05: 34 New
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      Justify or do not you pay for it?
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    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 April 6 2020 07: 59 New
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      Quote: Valery Valery
      Another stuffing of lies and filth.

      Truth is never beautiful laughing They always killed for her, not so strangers smile
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      1. AUL
        AUL April 6 2020 09: 30 New
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        Well, when they begin to cling to their surname - therefore, there are no other arguments! And to say something is ordered ...
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    6. Ivan Kolodin
      Ivan Kolodin April 6 2020 11: 24 New
      +4
      It is a pity that only one minus can be sculpted ....
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov April 6 2020 22: 08 New
        0
        I do not understand you and your cons, is it so important for you? Well, they sent a man inwardly ... And that’s it. No, you want to spread it all over the world ... Do you know what it is called among adequate people? Ivan Kolodin is called.
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 April 6 2020 05: 29 New
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    The situation is suitable, a lot of people on the street, a small business is ruined, it remains to unite, unite and set the task.
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      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 April 6 2020 05: 55 New
        +4
        The task of national importance.
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    2. Sergey Averchenkov
      Sergey Averchenkov April 6 2020 06: 01 New
      +2
      And then typhoid (coronavirus) ... Yes, and there is no leader, who will stand on the armored car?
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      2. AUL
        AUL April 6 2020 09: 24 New
        +8
        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
        who will stand on the armored car?

        Grandpa Zyu will not fit ...
        1. Chervonny
          Chervonny April 6 2020 15: 37 New
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          Quote: AUL
          Grandpa Zyu will not fit ...

          Malentsov Stepan Sergeevich will be able and Rashkin Valery Fedorovich will also be able.
      3. Chervonny
        Chervonny April 6 2020 15: 34 New
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        so Lenin in February 1917 was not a well-known politician, and Putin in 1999 was known only to a narrow circle of people.
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 April 6 2020 08: 09 New
      +5
      Quote: Pessimist22
      to unite
      unite, from the word one. And you do it - a merger laughing
      Okay, what will we promise? take away to distribute? laughing In order to rally many commanders sad where to take frames?
      Quote: Pessimist22
      to set a task.

      this is the most interesting! smile revolution? or evolution? Evolution means a progressive tax, the ability to recall a deputy online, a ban on real estate with accounts, and the dependence of a deputy’s salary on the regional average ... A revolution is the execution of the White House, again .... what is better ???
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky April 6 2020 08: 43 New
      -13
      Quote: Pessimist22
      The situation is suitable, a lot of people on the street, a small business is ruined, it remains to unite, unite and set the task.

      Quote: Pessimist22
      The task of national importance.

      Well yes. In Ukraine, in 2014, combined. Economy rushing uphill, business in gold, people in chocolate. Does the experience of neighbors teach anything? The mess in Russia and its collapse is a task of national importance for the United States and its European satellites.
      1. AUL
        AUL April 6 2020 09: 43 New
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        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Quote: Pessimist22
        The situation is suitable, a lot of people on the street, a small business is ruined, it remains to unite, unite and set the task.

        Quote: Pessimist22
        The task of national importance.

        Well yes. In Ukraine, in 2014, combined. Economy rushing uphill, business in gold, people in chocolate. Does the experience of neighbors teach anything? The mess in Russia and its collapse is a task of national importance for the United States and its European satellites.

        You know, by and large I’m deeply onWedплевать, как на Украине! Я живу в России, и меня куда больше волнуют проблемы СВОЕЙ страны. Вот у нас в 2014 НЕ объединили. И что, " Экономика прёт в гору, бизнес в золоте, народ в шоколаде. "?
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan April 6 2020 12: 08 New
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          By the way, trolls lie about Ukraine. On the Internet there is information that the economic growth rate of Ukraine is higher than our Russian. Lied.
          1. 16329
            16329 April 6 2020 22: 46 New
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            Of course, of course, only traitors of the Russian people, when abandoning their own National Identity, culture and statehood, can have high rates of economic growth
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      2. Overlock
        Overlock April 6 2020 10: 16 New
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        Quote: Nyrobsky
        The mess in Russia and its collapse is a task of national importance for the United States and its European satellites.

        так почему ее выполнял Медведев, а теперь и Путин? Идет война с вирусом на территории страны, а главковерх - "сами-сами! Где координация? Полагаете, что Скворцова все разрулит? Я вот так не думаю. Губернаторы?- А они умеют это делать? Каковы их успехи в развитии регионов?
        1. Chervonny
          Chervonny April 6 2020 15: 37 New
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          Quote: Overlock
          so why was it performed by Medvedev, and now Putin?

          everything is very simple - they are liberals
        2. 16329
          16329 April 6 2020 22: 53 New
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          Putin especially ruined Russia in Dagestan, Chechnya, Ossetia and Abkhazia, Crimea, Donbass and Syria
          It got to the point that Russia turned from a failed State 90s into a normal dynamic state, where digitalization, for example, of the banking system is better than in Europe, etc.
          Would stop writing any nonsense
    5. 16329
      16329 April 6 2020 17: 15 New
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      Part of the small business will survive the situation, part will turn into wage earners, just
      Does everyone want to reduce the number of builders, janitors and cleaners from neighboring countries or not?
  • Igor K
    Igor K April 6 2020 05: 35 New
    +8
    I completely agree with the article, emergency mode and emergency mode are not introduced since other tasks than solving problems.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor April 6 2020 05: 50 New
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      yeah, they have one problem ... how else can they survive for ten years ...
      and Che country ... and Che people ... survive somehow with God's help ...
      1. depressant
        depressant April 6 2020 07: 05 New
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        We won’t survive, kepmor, we won’t survive ... I estimated cash and food supplies - I won’t survive. The neighbors are the same. And what - to die out whole entrances? Where are our masks, ventilation again? Sold in the USA? The people on one of the related topics, screaming, shouted: in three shifts the plant works by stamping masks. The plant operates in three shifts, stamping mechanical ventilation - we will survive if all this remains in the country and immediately resume work. But - it will not remain, it will be sold abroad, someone will fill their pockets, and we won’t go to work, because someone will fill their pockets !!! ...
        And I sparkled over the whole year, to hoarseness and illness: Putin, I voted for you, you are at your post thanks to me, so work as I need, and not your close circle! And the list represented what I needed. And measures. Silence is my answer. Well, well ... People will take to the streets, I will change myself, I will come out, excuse me, President.
        1. kepmor
          kepmor April 6 2020 07: 15 New
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          it's not you who should ask for forgiveness from him ... but he is from you and all the people ...
          but just do not wait for this action from him ... his conscience left to see ... did not cuddle the royal blessings ...
          1. Lannan Shi
            Lannan Shi April 6 2020 08: 04 New
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            Quote: kepmor
            left his sight to see ... did not bring together royal goods ...

            First, upbringing in the gateway, which the guarantor himself spoke about, but the gateway is not rich in conscience, then the KGB, where there were no especially conscientious KGBs, then at the errands of the dog, where the conscientious did not survive by default. What conscience? What are you speaking about? Her guarantor is still in kindergarten, waved at a glass of compote.
        2. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis April 6 2020 09: 09 New
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          Quote: depressant
          And I sparkled over the whole year, to hoarseness and illness: Putin, I voted for you, you are at your post thanks to me, so work as I need, and not your close circle!

          Hysteria does not lead to anything good ... So what you need to choose. Or do you love your country! Or rush about like neighboring Ukraine .. Now the situation in Russia resembles Ukraine, the time of the fall of Yanukovych. Ukraine anticipated!
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 6 2020 10: 20 New
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            Quote: 30 vis
            Or do you love your country! Or rush about like neighboring Ukraine ..

            вы прямо как Володин! -."Нет Путина, нет России". А России более 11 веков и она будет после Путина. Вы сотворили себе кумира и теперь маетесь.
            Quote: 30 vis
            Now the situation in Russia resembles Ukraine, the time of the fall of Yanukovych.

            so the mistakes of both are the same: do not spit on the people, do not feed the thieves, develop the country, and not your relatives
          2. Alf
            Alf April 6 2020 11: 00 New
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            Quote: 30 vis
            Now the situation in Russia resembles Ukraine, the time of the fall of Yanukovych. Ukraine anticipated!

            Again the same thing. You have forgotten Syria. Change the training manual.
          3. Leshy1975
            Leshy1975 April 6 2020 13: 55 New
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            Quote: 30 vis
            Now the situation in Russia resembles Ukraine, the time of the fall of Yanukovych. Ukraine anticipated!

            В самом деле? Вот так "неожиданность"! Странно, кто бы мог подумать?!
            Но ведь многие ещё все-го лишь год-два назад, когда их предупреждали, что страна движется к смуте или революции, категорически не хотели об этом даже слышать. А Вам остается теперь лишь до конца осознать, кто персонально (подсказка - некто личность мегагалактического масштаба, автор множества блестящих ХПП), и привёл страну к этому "успеху". Не в одиночку конечно, а с помощью своего окружения, но во главе, выстроенной им вертикали, находится сам и вряд-ли в этом случае, сможет переложить на кого-то ответственность.

            PS Citizens of Utreota and do not say now that you were not warned. All in the end, as has long been the case, decide on the streets of big cities. hi
      2. Svarog
        Svarog April 6 2020 07: 24 New
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        Quote: kepmor
        yeah, they have one problem ... how else can they survive for ten years ...

        For 10 years they’ll have known half the country ..
        1. kepmor
          kepmor April 6 2020 07: 35 New
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          это бабушка ещё "на двое" сказала...
          I think that most of this self-isolation with empty wallets and even without prospects will come out with a different worldview ...
      3. Paul Siebert
        Paul Siebert April 6 2020 08: 04 New
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        Quote: kepmor
        yeah, they have one problem ... how else can they survive for ten years ...
        and Che country ... and Che people ... survive somehow with God's help ...

        As the saying goes:
        "Хоть паровоз наш и не тянет, но как пронзителен гудок!"
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 April 6 2020 08: 12 New
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      Quote: Igor K
      Emergency and emergency are not entered since other tasks than solving problems.
      the problem is that by law in the event of an emergency or quarantine, payments are made to the affected population. With self-isolation, no.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock April 6 2020 10: 22 New
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        Quote: aybolyt678
        payments are being made to the affected population.

        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan April 6 2020 12: 20 New
          +6
          Yes, there is money in the treasury, even if they don’t lie. Recently, from each iron, all our ears have buzzed that for 10 years the country will have enough reserves in the welfare fund. And as the time came to give us some money, it became so pathetic, therefore he is cunning with these self-isolation. And by the way, is he to blame, who brought down oil prices? Who gave Novak the command to disrupt negotiations with OPEC? Decided to punish the Americans? And he punished himself, including us.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day April 6 2020 14: 45 New
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            Quote: Fan-Fan
            And he punished himself, including us.

            "не так сели" ЕБН: нас, но не себя
          2. depressant
            depressant April 6 2020 16: 29 New
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            And I, colleagues, will tell you why the payments for the people were squeezed. Because the Central Bank has already sold Sberbank to the state for 2 trillion rubles, taken from the very same National Welfare Fund, to help from which the people rolled their lips. Already all the documents for sale have been drawn up, the deal was concluded while we were breaking spears on amendments. With the carrying value of Sberbank totaling 5 billion rubles according to the report for 72,9 (we must assume that the same value was in 2018). Now the toad is strangling near-power, although there are still trillions in the Fund - there is less left to do by yourself, but then this people is still fussing, demanding.

            Question: why was it sold at market value, not book value?
            1. Because otherwise the shares of Sberbank on the stock exchange will fall in value. And British and American shareholders have a 45,41% stake in Sberbank - how can you offend respected people! This is not some Russian people there. Therefore, in the next three years, $ 17,5 billion will be allocated to the gentlemen to pay dividends. A virus, not a virus - they will direct! Do you think Sberbank is purely Russian?
            2. Nabiullina’s puncture in activity, miscalculated (accidentally, intentionally, by incompetence) hundreds of billions of rubles (700) and sold Sber to cover the Central Bank’s loss. Putin, a good soul, rescued a girlfriend, falling off her two and a half trillion. And do not worry, we are told that Nabiullin will cover the loss, and the rest of the money will be returned to the budget. Yes, the only difference is that she received 2, 5 trillion at once, and the remainder from covering the shortage, that is, 1,8 trillion will be returned in tranches for three years. And during this time it may cover some shortage of this money, or we will die out. Like a donkey and a padish.
            Так что, не рассчитывайте, коллеги, на подачки из ФНБ, он -- не наше достояние, там очередь на распил -- та, которая кричит "Самим мало!" И если у нас что-то из промышленности хорошо работает, так это фабрика по производству миллиардеров, активизируется в кризис.
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  • Thrifty
    Thrifty April 6 2020 05: 45 New
    +6
    Roman, asking a question, what’s called a rib, you didn’t give an answer to it? Who will change the cuckoo to hawk, that is, the old president to the new? And, the catch is that in our political arena there is no adequate situation that can solve the main thing - to take care of the country's economy! There are a bunch of show-show-goers, there are flocks of near-politicians, but there is no SPECIALIST from the economy! And, everything is elementary - the power of such people, sorry for the pun, does not allow power! In order for the people not to want to demand early re-election of the President of Russia, knowing that there are people who are ABLE to change the economic situation for the better, to ensure real economic growth. Therefore, we can talk about changing the leader of the country, but so far there is no one to change it for, so that inadvertently Judas does not appear in power. He didn’t begin to slander the country to pieces, he did not start the Civil War!
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      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty April 6 2020 06: 00 New
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        I perfectly understood what I wrote! Change of linen, that is, a leader is necessary for the country, but SPECIALISTS from the economy will not allow power to come! So do you understand? ??
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        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 6 2020 10: 25 New
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          Quote: Thrifty
          I perfectly understood what I wrote! Change of linen, that is, a leader is necessary for the country, but SPECIALISTS from the economy will not allow power to come! So do you understand? ??

          It will become clear when it will be too late. There was no need to cultivate relatives. and healthy opposition, healthy nationally interested cadres, not tumbleweed. I’ve walked the mower more than once in the clearing, mowed it all, and there’s no personnel, only slime dishes
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    3. Svarog
      Svarog April 6 2020 07: 27 New
      +5
      Quote: Thrifty
      Therefore, we can talk about changing the leader of the country, but so far there is no one to change it for, so that inadvertently Judas does not appear in power. He didn’t begin to slander the country to pieces, he did not start the Civil War!

      Firstly, the new president must be a socialist .. and secondly Platoshkin is not very bad.
      1. kepmor
        kepmor April 6 2020 07: 41 New
        +7
        yes it’s not bad ...
        it’s one thing to scratch your tongue in YouTube, another thing to plow on the ground ...
        его даже на выборах в думу с его "красными соплями по союзу" прососали...а-ля горбатый номер 2...
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan April 6 2020 12: 40 New
          +7
          Он хоть языком правильно чешет и главное понятные и простые вещи говорит. А эти, которые 20 лет уже только мямлят и мямлят, обещают и обещают, и просят войти в их положение, т.е как он сказал - "Прошу отнестись с пониманием (к очередному ограблению)".
          Бесконечные и совершенно бесполезные пресконференции, майские указы и прочие призывы. Особенно смешит ежегодный призыв: "Пора без раскачки браться за дело".
          And the calls are emptiness, where is his team, who will perform?
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 08: 21 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        Firstly, the new president must be a socialist .. and secondly Platoshkin is not very bad.

        Platoshkin is very far from socialism, his new socialism is capitalism. It seems to me that he is the same manipulator as Navalny. In addition, he is a boor (it is worth looking at his debate with Semin, for example). It is necessary to go not for personalities, but for one or another idea, it is necessary to organize from below.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog April 6 2020 09: 00 New
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          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Platoshkin is very far from socialism, his new socialism is capitalism. It seems to me that he is the same manipulator as Navalny

          On what basis does this seem to you? .. Platoshkin is a realist.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 09: 54 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            On what basis does this seem to you? .. Platoshkin is a realist.

            Read his program, it doesn’t smell like socialism, although it uses the symbols of the USSR and the slogans of the USSR.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog April 6 2020 09: 59 New
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              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Quote: Svarog
              On what basis does this seem to you? .. Platoshkin is a realist.

              Read his program, it doesn’t smell like socialism, although it uses the symbols of the USSR and the slogans of the USSR.

              Everything is fine there. I consider the most important nationalization of the oil and gas sector and energy companies. This is the most important because it is this fact that will allow you to have resources for the development of industry .. But he stands for the development of small and medium-sized businesses. I also support him here. And this is realism.
              And then, do not forget, he is a diplomat. And, accordingly, softly strokes ..
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 10: 19 New
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                Quote: Svarog
                Everything is fine there. I consider the most important nationalization of the oil and gas sector and energy companies. This is the most important because it is this fact that will allow you to have resources for the development of industry .. But he stands for the development of small and medium-sized businesses. I also support him here. And this is realism.
                And then, do not forget, he is a diplomat. And, accordingly, softly strokes ..

                Посмотрите этот обзор на ютубе "Реми Майснер и Клим Жуков: а нов ли Новый социализм Платошкина?" мне нечего к нему добавить. А верить, что он сделает так, а не иначе, без достаточных на то оснований я не готов. Кроме того, я вообще не верю, что в результате буржуазных выборов к власти могут прийти представители иного класса кроме буржуазии.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog April 6 2020 10: 26 New
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                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  that as a result of bourgeois elections, representatives of a class other than the bourgeoisie may come to power.

                  There is no arguing over ..
                2. Fan-fan
                  Fan-fan April 6 2020 12: 52 New
                  +1
                  So you believe those who haven’t really demonstrated anything over the past 20 years? Although they demonstrated something, namely the ability to get rich in person and showed an arrogant confidence to cling to power for life, they simply clutched at the throne with their claws and teeth. But Platoshkin, although promising to do something, Putin didn’t promise anything like that not 20 years ago or now. He can’t even promise something good to the people.
      3. Paul Siebert
        Paul Siebert April 6 2020 08: 56 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Thrifty
        Therefore, we can talk about changing the leader of the country, but so far there is no one to change it for, so that inadvertently Judas does not appear in power. He didn’t begin to slander the country to pieces, he did not start the Civil War!

        Firstly, the new president must be a socialist .. and secondly Platoshkin is not very bad.

        Platoshkin is good - no doubt!
        Yes, and Kalashnikov is not bad! That deputy from Togliatti ...
        But what about Putin’s promises?
        After all:
        "Всего, чего нам обещали, никто у нас не отберёт!" laughing
        1. Svarog
          Svarog April 6 2020 09: 01 New
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          Quote: Paul Siebert
          But what about Putin’s promises?

          Putin was blown away ... as soon as he began to deceive the people. Putin is already an anchor tied to the neck of Russia. If at the beginning of his term he really dragged .. now it’s a burden.
    4. depressant
      depressant April 6 2020 07: 30 New
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      So what would I do in Putin's place?
      Путин должен собрать своих подельников и сказать: ребята, я вас, бездарных, тянул, я вас, тупых, обогатил, но вы забыли, что я не только ваш президент -- я президент всего народа, всей страны, я за неё в ответе, я должен её сохранить, я вам не пахан, на мне историческая миссия, иначе потомки меня проклянут, как проклинают Горбачева, а он еще живой и все это слышит, а я не хочу такое слышать, так что беру меры. Если не соберет их в кучу, не скажет открыто им такое ( как же надоела его развед-конспирация, вынуждающая интерпретировать его высказывания и действия! ), не сумеет настоять на том, что нужно нам, а не разжиревшей кучке "близких", то представить страшно, что может произойти со всеми нами, значит со страной.
      1. AAK
        AAK April 6 2020 08: 51 New
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        Уважаемая Людмила Яковлевна, если гарант попробует такие слова своим "подельникам" вслух произнести, то кодла даже "кичей" не ограничится...и новый указ про безжалостную боевую ФСО не спасёт...
        1. depressant
          depressant April 6 2020 09: 14 New
          +2
          Коллега, никогда не сомневалась, что это так. Нацгвардия и ФСО будут перекуплены. У наших олигархов в оффшорах 3 триллиона долларов, значит по меньшей мере триллион налички. Потому столько же возможностей не только задавить Путина, вякни он что-нибудь не то, но и столько же возможностей поставить того, кто будет говорить "то". Путин хоть привычнее. Я очень понимаю тех коллег, у кого играют молодые политические мускулы. Но я -- скучный тертый калач. Допустим, наемного Путина заменят на наемного Пупкина, бросив народу небольшую денежную кость. А дальше все пойдет по старому или еще хуже. Практика показывает, что хуже. Если же мощно давить на Путина, то давление, быть может, дойдет и до олигархов. Мозги у них вряд ли вправятся, они живут инстинктами, но, может страх сработает.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 6 2020 10: 26 New
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            Quote: depressant
            Their brains are unlikely to settle, they live by instinct, but maybe fear will work.

            but, interestingly, Putin thinks so the brain?
      2. Svarog
        Svarog April 6 2020 09: 07 New
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        Quote: depressant
        Putin must gather his accomplices and say: guys, I pulled you, mediocre, I pulled you,

        And the loafers will say .. the king went on the roof, another is needed .. there is mutual responsibility .. cut the entrance .. exit-life ..
        It is necessary to completely change the elite, these will in every way persevere them, and so everything suits ..
        1. depressant
          depressant April 6 2020 09: 37 New
          +3
          How to change it, Svarog? So that there is no blood? In my opinion, only by the powerful protest pressure of the Internet - they read! I read. It is already boiling. Our oligarchs are either scoundrels or complete. Potanin: I’ll give a billion to fight against coronavirus, but only NPOs (by itself knows that if the budget, then predator friends will steal). But if in an NPO, then the registration will take months. And there, you see, the virus will decline, and the NPO will be created by Potanin himself. Not damned, not wrinkled - political points in your pocket. Or, for example, billionaire Andrei Simenovsky renovated his native school 106 in the Empire style. With gilding, vignettes, palace chandeliers - what, huh? I am reproached that I live in a different reality. No, it is they, the oligarchs, who live in a different reality, guided by perverted ideas about the present. Therefore, colleagues, protecting Putin from the attacks of the forum, defend the perverted reality of the oligarchy. Whatever you can’t throw off without blood. But I do not want Russian people to die.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog April 6 2020 09: 43 New
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            Quote: depressant
            How to change it, Svarog? So that there is no blood?

            I do not know. But there is only one option, to campaign for socialism and the more we will be, the more pressure there will be and in the end the socialist will come to power. We need a powerful society demand for socialism.
      3. edmed
        edmed April 6 2020 10: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: depressant
        So what would I do in Putin's place?

        Example. South Korea, the local dictators bent everyone, and hard workers and oligarchs, forcing everyone to work for the good and prosperity of their fatherland, they did not forget about themselves loved ones.
    5. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim April 6 2020 07: 41 New
      +8
      Quote: Thrifty
      Roman, asking a question, what’s called a rib, you didn’t give an answer to it?

      I also read the title of the article: How to find a responsible president for the future?
      I am also worried about this question, well, I think I will find the answer. But I read the article further, Putin is guarded by the FSO, the Russian Guard, the Ministry of Internal Affairs - which means a coup is impossible.
      Путин переложил все возникшие проблемы на губернаторов и нижестоящих чиновников, а сам ничего стоящего не предложил, понимаю это так, что "я устал, я ухожу" мы не услышим.
      The author further agrees that Putin will remain, but become what he was in 2002, although the author himself does not believe in such an opportunity.
      No offense, I didn’t find an answer, maybe you offer to look for the answer to this question yourself? but I don’t know the answer, I’m honest.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock April 6 2020 10: 28 New
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        Quote: Anatol Klim
        I don’t know the answer, I’m honest.

        but there is no answer in this situation. Zutswang turned out!
        Quote: Anatol Klim
        Putin is guarded by the FSO, the Russian Guard, the Ministry of Internal Affairs - which means a coup is impossible.

        remember the past - the KGB, the USSR Armed Forces, the police. How did it end?
      2. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan April 6 2020 13: 10 New
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        How to find a responsible president for the future?

        Просто надо пробовать, выбирать другого, т.е. из всех кандидатов надо голосовать за одного, который на фоне остальных, производит наиболее лучшее впечатление. А если выбранный президент ничего хорошего стране не сделает, то опять выбирать другого и так пока не попадётся толковый. Для этого нам народу надо проявить волю, отбросить пофигизм и лень, вон французы чуть что на митинг выходят, а мы что не можем мирный митинг организовать. Даже армяне смогли, а русские, чем хуже или лентяи? И ещё, надо вернуть 4 года срок президенства, так как терпеть 6 лет "пустышку" на троне дорого стране обойдётся. И ещё - запретить менять конституцию "оптом", а только постатейно и на общенародном референдуме, а то теперешнии правители совсем "распоясались", уже конституцию с комплексным обедом сравнивают
        1. telobezumnoe
          telobezumnoe April 12 2020 14: 08 New
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          how are you going to choose a president? on commercials? of those who will show you? all these tales into democracy, only for the illusion of choice.
    6. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi April 6 2020 08: 12 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      but the SPECIALIST is not visible from the economy!

      Stalin was a seminarist, Park Jung hee teacher, Roosevelt lawyer. Somehow we managed .... Here rather honesty is more relevant than a specialty. Therefore, people from business, bodies in particular, and government agencies in general, deputies and other similar ones can be eliminated by default.
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  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 6 2020 05: 53 New
    +9
    Honestly ... I was able to read one third ... I will read the rest when I sober up ... with Komsomol greetings ... Your Nikalaich!
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    2. Paul Siebert
      Paul Siebert April 6 2020 07: 59 New
      +5
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Honestly ... I was able to read one third ... I will read the rest when I sober up ... with Komsomol greetings ... Your Nikalaich!

      Yes, Nikolayevich, how much strength on weakness goes!
      I am the same.
      As for alcohol - I know the norm. But I can’t drink so much ... wink
      1. depressant
        depressant April 6 2020 08: 05 New
        +5
        Yes, you are Shakespeare, a colleague! love
  • astronom1973n
    astronom1973n April 6 2020 06: 00 New
    -22
    Why this article? The week of self-isolation had just passed and businessmen were already howling about the loss of profit. They write that there is nothing to eat. What, in a week? everything was eaten in March, something was eaten. I personally have a retired mother, 75 years old, unfortunately, recently living alone, my husband died, I’m in another city. He looks at the situation with optimism, it was even worse, especially at the time Khrushchev. The garden is preparing to dig and plant everything according to plan. So there are whiners, and there are optimists. The situation is certainly difficult, but in such cases they say that the horses at the crossing do not change, you need to stand and not whine. All good luck and patience and strength of spirit.
    1. depressant
      depressant April 6 2020 08: 00 New
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      Астроном, не у всех есть огороды. Масса людей, у которых их нет. Огороды -- не панацея от безденежья. Лекарством могла стать нормальная государственная политика, чутко реагирующая на состояние экономики. Обещал президент 25 млн рабочих мест? Обещал! Что -- сам, вручную должен был их создавать? Нет! Их должен был создавать народ! Народ, понимаете? Народ! Для этого требовалось всего-ничего -- отпустить на волю малый и средний бизнес (МиС) -- всего-ничего! То есть сделать то, что бюджету и копейки бы не стоило. Наоборот -- наполнило бы его доверху. И сейчас, в коронавирусную политическую эпоху, запас "жирка" был бы значителен не только у предпринимателей, но и у бесчисленного наемного персонала. Но нет у нас сонма мелких и средних предпринимателей, как нет и"жирка"! А у кого он есть, то очень тощий, жалкий "жирок" -- не накопился, потому что из месяца в месяц, из года в год страна медленно сползала в рецессию, откачивая налоги из худосочной, кем только не задавленной предпринимательской прослойки в Фонд национального благосостояния. И вот уже, роняя жадные слюни, жищники-олигархи ждут момента, чтобы его в который раз раздербанить на собственные фонды их личного благосостояния. Уверяю, раздербанят. Если президент вдруг не вспомнить о своих профессиональных обязанностях. И если он не сделает этого, то коронавирусные олигархи порвут страну в клочья. Ладно мы, а что скажет на это мир? У Путина есть самолюбие?
      1. astronom1973n
        astronom1973n April 6 2020 08: 23 New
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        "Депрессант",Вы настоящий депрессант.Все у Вас плохо и уныние во всех Ваших словах.А чуткая или нет политика -это все разговор в пользу не понятно кого.Строй у нас-капитализм,причем не развитый.Поэтому читайте Маркса,Энгельса и будет Вам счастье! СССР мы прокакали,и его уже не вернуть.Да,и надоело уже про Путина в каждой статье читать,просто надоело.Не будет Путина-будет Иванов ,Петров и Сидоров,и этими персонажами будут недовольны люди-это классика социологии и политологии.Когда все и всем довольны -это утопия.
        1. depressant
          depressant April 6 2020 08: 42 New
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          Астроном, минус -- не мой, потому что я во многом с Вами согласна. Да, я ною. Но делаю это из-за того, что, кроме себя самого, Путин никого не допустит к управлению страной. Даже если уйдет с поста президента, скажем, в сенаторы. Или еще кем-то. Обнулив свои сроки, он ясно и четко Вам сказал, что уходить не собирается. Независимо от голосования по поправкам. Поэтому приходится работать с тем "материалом", который есть. Как у Стругацких. Делать добро из зла. Не вижу такого политического деятеля, который, взмахивая ангельскими крыльями, придет вместо Путина сейчас и не окажется ангажированным богачами и Западом. Не верю никому. И если выйду на протест, будя он состоится, то есть под пули Нацгвардии, то от отчаяния, от голода, отключающего разум.
    2. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi April 6 2020 08: 16 New
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      Quote: astronom1973n
      My personally retired mother is 75 years old, unfortunately she has been living alone recently, my husband has died, I am in a different city. I look at the situation with optimism

      Why shouldn’t she look? With optimism? Alone with retirement? Now, if she gives a couple of children, her husband, and jobs, to her in which cafe, and let her husband at the car service, but take her pension, she will sharply diminish optimism.
      1. astronom1973n
        astronom1973n April 6 2020 08: 28 New
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        Quote: Lannan Shi
        Why shouldn’t she look? With optimism? Alone with retirement? Now, if she gives a couple of children, her husband, and jobs, to her in which cafe, and let her husband at the car service, but take her pension, she will sharply diminish optimism.

        You don’t understand something, she raised children and it was not an easy time either. At all times it was difficult. She earned her pension honestly. So your sarcasm is inappropriate. Only a week has passed, and you are already howling and groaning. What will happen next? Are you going to rob and kill? In your opinion, do you need to introduce measures against a pandemic? And the recipe for everything is to give out loots. Well, what will they give? Better? Next month ask for more.! No work? Yes, we have been looking for a janitor for a month and technical equipment, go? No, it will be moaning. Whiners.
        1. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi April 6 2020 08: 38 New
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          Quote: astronom1973n
          You don’t understand something, she raised children and at the same time it was not easy

          My dear .... Here you just sound a specific date, month, year, at least under Stalin, at least during Khrushchev and Brezhnev, when they would tell the people to sit at home, not to dare to work, hand over bread cards, eat bark and eat grass. But then, if you find a suitable example, talk about when, where and what were the times.
          If you are, then even in the besieged Leningrad, at the very peak of hunger, albeit a very rotten quality, but they gave 125 grams of bread to dependents. You see, in besieged Leningrad, which could fall from day to day, there was more concern for people than in the current Russian Federation. This is not even a diagnosis, it is already the results of an autopsy ....
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          2. Finches
            Finches April 6 2020 09: 25 New
            -11
            Change your current time for at least a week to be in the besieged Leningrad?
            1. depressant
              depressant April 6 2020 10: 28 New
              +8
              Zyablitsev, my dear, if self-isolation is not removed, in a month the whole porch of my Khrushchev will be in the analogue of the besieged Leningrad.
              1. Finches
                Finches April 6 2020 10: 30 New
                -6
                I don’t think ... Do not bomb from above! There is heating, there is electricity ... No need to escalate the situation! Difficult, but not fatal!
                1. Ivan Kolodin
                  Ivan Kolodin April 6 2020 12: 04 New
                  +4
                  Is there anything?
            2. Lannan Shi
              Lannan Shi April 6 2020 11: 21 New
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              Quote: Finches
              Change your current time for at least a week to be in the besieged Leningrad?

              Что конкретно вы хотите услышать? Что сейчас в РФ лучше, чем в блокадном Ленинграде? Да. Пока лучше. Но вот именно в этом вся мерзость ситуации. В блокаде иждивенцы реально были не нужны. На вопрос выживаемости города они не влияли никак. И рационально было бы оставить их умирать, а все ресурсы перенацелить на войска, заводы, транспорт. Однако. Балансируя на грани выживаемости всего города, их тащили. До последнего. Рабочие на оборонке в обмороки падали, но заявить - сидите дома и не жужжите, ваша работа не актуальна, сдохнете никому не нужные парикмахеры, такого никому и в голову не приходило. В РФ же сейчас очень далеко до проблем Ленинграда. Но.... Самоизоляция, хлеба нет, но вы держитесь. Понимаете о чем речь? О морали. Умирающий с голода Ленинград был готов умереть, весь, без деления на "градообразующих" и лишних. В несильно бедствующей России... Под замок и без пайки запросто сажают миллионы "лишних". Не до вас млин, надо спасать нефтяников, которые ещё 3 недели назад верещали, что им и 20 баксов за бочку не проблема. Мораль волчьей стаи. А ещё о боге и прочих глупостях, вроде социального государства будем в Конституцию писать. Ага.
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 April 6 2020 08: 49 New
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      Quote: astronom1973n
      but in such cases they say that they do not change the horses at the crossing, you must stand and do not whine

      what ferry? we are adrift ... in front of the waterfall ... wake up !!
      1. Ivan Kolodin
        Ivan Kolodin April 6 2020 12: 06 New
        +5
        Yeah, they don’t change horses ... He forgot only to say that the crossing dragged on for 20 years, we still don’t swim in any way, I’m afraid not one horse can drive so much ...
    4. AUL
      AUL April 6 2020 10: 04 New
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      Quote: astronom1973n
      . The situation is certainly difficult, but in such cases they say that they do not change the horses at the crossing, you must stand and not whine

      А если конь давно уже не тянет, ни до переправы, ни на ней, что, так и стоять посреди реки? Даже это не получится, течением снесет! Похоже, эту "переправу" конь сам задумал, чтоб не сменили.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 April 6 2020 12: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: AUL
        And if the horse has not pulled for a long time, neither before the crossing, nor on it, what, to stand in the middle of the river?

        when a bandit collects a very large number of followers and gains control of a very large number of resources, he becomes a politician:

        And on the contrary, a politician who has lost his followers and control over resources becomes an ordinary bandit:
    5. Alf
      Alf April 6 2020 11: 06 New
      +5
      Quote: astronom1973n
      The situation is certainly difficult, but in such cases they say that they do not change the horses at the crossing, you need to stand and not whine.

      Since 1999 they haven’t changed, but the ferry is getting further and further ..
  • yuliatreb
    yuliatreb April 6 2020 06: 02 New
    +2
    I still think this could have been avoided, there was no reason to dance to the tune, there was a truly stupid situation in which the president did not prove himself a strong personality with an analytical mindset, it seems that Putin left in 2008 and still wanders somewhere in the vast expanses of Russia. Maybe we should call him, Volodya come back.
    1. The popuas
      The popuas April 6 2020 07: 19 New
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      Таки не зря с "женой" развелся! А митрополит то наш Кирилл, очень на почившего "Япончика" похож belay
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan April 6 2020 13: 17 New
        +3
        The first wife sensed that something was wrong with him and left. And only at the end of 2014 I realized that everything, our leader has merged, we need another important company.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 April 6 2020 08: 52 New
      +9
      Quote: yuliatreb
      Maybe we should call him, Volodya come back.

      well, let's call ... well, he’ll answer, as it has already been many times .. The trouble is that the dialogue does not work with the president sad answering the question, he does not ask about satisfaction with the answer.
      1. yuliatreb
        yuliatreb April 6 2020 09: 13 New
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        When a person has been in power for twenty years, he becomes pathologically ill with it, everything that he once wanted to do, wanted to change something without leaving a trace, and other priorities become paramount. The same hated America in our history encountered a similar one, after which the corresponding conclusions were made and amendments to the Constitution were made, no more than two terms, otherwise it would be a disaster. So for some reason, we still do not learn from the mistakes of others, but with stupid intervals we fill ourselves up with bumps, but because some of them are outweighed by power and lack the courage to simply leave.
  • Mastrer
    Mastrer April 6 2020 06: 09 New
    +9
    In general, I am against articles with a heading which does not correspond to the content. But in this case it will be a petty nitpicking. The facts, so to speak, are striking in the face, in the most unscrupulous manner.

    The situation is now on the verge of a foul. And our guarantor (heh), took the path of least resistance. In all years, the main electorate of Putin was older people and pensioners (periodically the composition varies, but the backbone has remained unchanged for a very long time), i.e. those who perceive what they say on television as the ultimate truth is a convenient, controlled electorate. And this damn virus hits its very heart ...

    And here is the plug - as if people did not believe the president, but if he scores on a virus that kills them ... This is not forgiven. This pupil / student caught such an infection in 95% of cases for three weeks and runs a runny nose, for the rest it is not so rosy.

    So a dilemma arises, take care of your main electorate or ditch the small / medium business - in which young people make up the vast majority. The choice, as we see, has already been made ...

    But the funniest thing is that it was not necessary to make this choice if our glorious oligarchy, which actually brought Putin to power, and, with his permission, are now cutting billions (not rubles) on this. I didn’t kill medicine for the most reluctant. Diseases appeared in the USSR by orders of magnitude (!) More dangerous than this virus, but for some reason no one, even quarantine within the same city, had ever entered. To manage such a thing, excuse me, crap - this must be able to. Or really want money.

    And from all this a very simple conclusion follows - there will be no other Putin (a comrade with a different last name will come). For it is not profitable. That’s the whole story.
  • DMB 75
    DMB 75 April 6 2020 06: 18 New
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    And here she is, an old tale of a good king and bad boyars in the field. No?

    Yes, she is the most. Very comfortable.
    Remember what Putin promised on March 25th.

    And if you recall what he promised in 20 years? There isn’t enough paper to write.
  • jonht
    jonht April 6 2020 06: 19 New
    -21
    Вот мне интересно, много говорят сейчас за самозанятых.... А они налоги платят? 90% нет. Я достаточно много знаю "малых бизнесменов" из них если налоги и платят то 40-45%, числятся безработным и ездят на машинах примиального класса. И поверьте, мне таких не жалко, жаль тех кто выбрал для себя работать на таких.
    1. Mastrer
      Mastrer April 6 2020 08: 16 New
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      Um, do you just know that any purchase more than 300k rubles goes to the control of the Federal Tax Service? It’s clear to Sechin and the Rottenbergs that they have a hairy paw.

      But if the self-employed rides in the S-class and ignores the tax, then this is clearly a difficult person.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar April 6 2020 11: 52 New
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        Quote: Mastrer


        But if the self-employed rides in the S-class and ignores the tax, then this is clearly a difficult person.

        Not necessary. They buy one for three families (quietly remember Boku) grandmothers from the sold grandmother’s apartments, their own prior and consumer loans. )))
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 08: 36 New
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      Quote: jonht
      Вот мне интересно, много говорят сейчас за самозанятых.... А они налоги платят? 90% нет. Я достаточно много знаю "малых бизнесменов" из них если налоги и платят то 40-45%, числятся безработным и ездят на машинах примиального класса. И поверьте, мне таких не жалко, жаль тех кто выбрал для себя работать на таких.

      In small cities, there is no one to work for.
    3. Overlock
      Overlock April 6 2020 10: 32 New
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      Quote: jonht
      And believe me, I don’t feel sorry for those, I’m sorry for those who chose to work for them.

      Believe me, in the crisis that Peskov himself spoke of, he will not make out who is who. It’s like a virus, it just kills anyone, the virus does not interest money or its absence from the client
  • jonht
    jonht April 6 2020 06: 23 New
    0
    Роман как всегда, в полит статьях, "все плохо". Может соберёмся и выдвиним его хотя-бы на мэра какого либо маленького города. Пусть проработает, наведёт порядок. Я честно буду вести за него агитацию, я действительно хочу увидеть, его видение порядка в реальности.
    1. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n April 6 2020 06: 29 New
      +4
      Quote: jonht
      Maybe we’ll get together and nominate him at least for the mayor of a small town.

      I agree, Roman mayors!
      1. jonht
        jonht April 6 2020 06: 32 New
        -4
        In the USSR they said this, do not criticize but propose a solution. More than one article by Roman on Political Problems did not have a single proposal on how to resolve the problems.
        1. astronom1973n
          astronom1973n April 6 2020 06: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: jonht
          In the USSR they said this, do not criticize but propose a solution.

          Помню (конечно к сожалению не дословно),когда в комсомоле говорили : "не согласен-предлагай,предлагаешь-делай!" good
          1. depressant
            depressant April 6 2020 10: 37 New
            +4
            Astronomer, you do not understand. The novel poses a problem, and its forum solves. Suggest a solution, do not be shy - the problem is posed clearly!
        2. Pessimist22
          Pessimist22 April 6 2020 06: 41 New
          -5
          To take away and divide or to add and increase?
          1. edmed
            edmed April 6 2020 07: 28 New
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            Quote: Pessimist22
            To take away and divide or to add and increase?

            It is taken away and divided, and folded and multiplied, it is from whom it is necessary, taken away and to whom it is necessary to multiply.
        3. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar April 6 2020 07: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: jonht
          In the USSR they said this, do not criticize but propose a solution. More than one article by Roman on Political Problems did not have a single proposal on how to resolve the problems.

          You can’t prevent - head)). Monitoring and identification.
      2. KSVK
        KSVK April 6 2020 22: 51 New
        0
        Mayors, as well as governors, are appointed by the president.
    2. The popuas
      The popuas April 6 2020 07: 24 New
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      The system, you know, will not let you do something, even in a seedy little town! Vertical.... recourse
      1. jonht
        jonht April 6 2020 07: 29 New
        +5
        In Kamchatka there is a town, ELIZOVO. So, with all the support of EP, their condom did not go to mayors, people chose without a party. The vertical runs along the top of the executive branch. By the way, the acting Kamchatka governor started quite well. Instead of a dumped rat from a ship.
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        2. Freeman
          Freeman April 6 2020 15: 58 New
          -1
          Quote: jonht
          In Kamchatka there is a town, ELIZOVO. So, with all the support of EP, their condom did not go to mayors, people chose without a party.


          Good afternoon, Eugene. Are you a resident of Yelizovo?
          Если это так, то мне не совсем понятно кого вы там избирали в "мэры".

          По "уставу Елизовского Городского поселения ( 2006 г. )", у вас существуют "Глава Елизовского городского поселения - Председатель Собрания депутатов Елизовского городского поселения" и "Глава администрации Елизовского городского поселения"
          / difference in authority can be found here: https://aif.ru/dontknows/1226010 /

          Согласно "Устава" -
          Article 25. Head of Settlement

          1. The head of the settlement is the highest official of the settlement and is vested in this Charter with his own powers to resolve issues of local importance.

          2. The head of the settlement is elected by the Assembly of Deputies from among the deputies of the Assembly deputies for the term of office of the Assembly of Deputies by secret ballot and exercises the powers of the chairman of the Assembly of Deputies of the Elizovo city settlement. The powers of the Head of the settlement expire on the day the newly elected Head of the settlement takes office.


          That is, прямых выборов "мэра" - не предусмотрено. request

          At the moment this is -


          In her biography, on the official website of the administration / http://admelizovo.ru/ / indicated -
          Supporter of the All-Russian Political Party "UNITED RUSSIA"


          Нет, я конечно понимаю, что на выборы в депутаты, она могла идти как "самовыдвиженец" ( "фишка" "единоросов", на последних выборах ). Но вы то, написали про "выборы мэра".

          Unclear. Explain if you can. hi
          1. jonht
            jonht April 7 2020 01: 24 New
            +1
            I am a resident of PK, and where did I write about what it was now? It was all in the last mayoral election of Elizovo. It is the election. hi
            1. Freeman
              Freeman April 7 2020 03: 52 New
              +1
              Quote: jonht
              I am a resident of PK, and where did I write about what it was now? It was all in the last mayoral election of Elizovo. It is the election. hi


              Did you mean Nikolay Piskun? (2004 year)
              Or someone else?
              Thank you for your reply. hi
              1. jonht
                jonht April 7 2020 05: 26 New
                +1
                Yes, 2004.
  • parusnik
    parusnik April 6 2020 06: 40 New
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    О росте цен, что характерно, после того, как пандемия уйдет или типа ее победят, цены не упадут....А после "победы" над пандемией, начнется бесплатная "раздача слонов" министрам ,губернаторам, мол смотрите, какие герои...Часто встречались комментарии: в 90-е хотите?...Вот они за дверью стоят...к замкам ключи подбирают....
    1. Van 16
      Van 16 April 6 2020 07: 35 New
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      Stalin took the country with a plow, left with a nuclear bomb.
      Putin took over the country with the 90s and will leave the country with the 90s.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion April 6 2020 08: 45 New
        -23
        Like you, and in 1953 they saw one plow. It is ridiculous to hear arguments about the 90s from those born on Putin's maternal capital.
        1. Van 16
          Van 16 April 6 2020 09: 16 New
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          Is that you about yourself? If anything, I have 37 years of work experience in production.
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus April 6 2020 06: 42 New
    15
    В целом все идет по плану властей. "Самоизоляция" до конца апреля,дальше -великая победа над короновирусом. Все проблемы в экономике- от мирового экономического кризиса вызванного пандемией.
    Единственное,что удивило в выступлении гр. Путина-это полное отсутствие каких-либо форм поддержки населения.Видимо ситуация в экономике совсем катастрофическая,что "электорату" даже обещать ничего не стали. По сути произошел дефолт государства по социальным обязательствам.
    The main problems are still management (the fall of governors is connected with this), and the problem of oil prices. Here this week there will be a great battle between the Russian Federation and the Saudis for reducing quotas. The task is to bring and keep prices at least to the level of 40 per barrel by any means.
    As for the ruin of small and medium-sized businesses, they simply decided to sacrifice them, moreover, their ruin is always a plus for large businesses. Yes, and the operating rate will increase, the people will now clutch at any work.
    Что касается нахождение ответственного президента,то в классовых обществах власть есть концентрированное выражение интересов господствующего класса,в странах же с гос.капитализмом периферийного типа (как РФ)-интересов тесно спаянной группы высшей бюрократии и крупных собственников. Проблема "нахождение президентов" да еще и "ответственных" в таких обществах вообще не стоит.
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  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 6 2020 06: 57 New
    -2
    I won’t begin to follow the example again. A trifle: the faucet-box in the mixer at the neighbor broke. They were looking for the whole community, well, in the next entrance, the peasant found a spare. Some strange, German. And nowhere to buy.

    We return to the time of the 80s, when in every apartment there should be a supply of candles, light bulbs, crane boxes, switches?

    And they are already gone, because there are no those who sell them.

    Вообще-то строительные материалы и "сопутка" входят в список товаров первой необходимости. Странно, что в Воронеже об этом не знают.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar April 6 2020 09: 20 New
      0
      Greetings Anton!
      So all sorts of Leroy Merlin open?
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave April 6 2020 09: 36 New
        0
        Albert! hi
        В Леруа не заезжал. "Максидом" и "Петрович" работают примерно в таком режиме , как раньше работал Юлмарт. ЭТМ и Минимакс работают только на доставку через интернет-платежи. Инженерную сантехнику беру у своих знакомых по предварительному звонку.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar April 6 2020 11: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          Albert! hi
          В Леруа не заезжал. "Максидом" и "Петрович" работают примерно в таком режиме , как раньше работал Юлмарт. ЭТМ и Минимакс работают только на доставку через интернет-платежи. Инженерную сантехнику беру у своих знакомых по предварительному звонку.

          So it's time to start delivering such equipment (if there is delivery in the OKVEDs) good
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave April 6 2020 12: 01 New
            0
            No, I don’t have transport services in OKVED. request Although, from a certain point of view, you intrigued me.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar April 6 2020 13: 18 New
              +1
              I have - in the VAT LLC-shke, really. Now I’ll check the simplification. You’ll come in if Che is on the board)),
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave April 6 2020 14: 43 New
                +1
                Ha, do you trust me so much? laughing
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar April 6 2020 15: 51 New
                  +1
                  But no - one transaction per year, registered in Krasnodar ... well, you can throw on the authorized capital lol 5000 RUB, press EMNIP - half fellow
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave April 6 2020 15: 56 New
                    +2
                    "Гулящая женщина"!!! Мне еще и в Краснодар ездить налоги платить?!?!?!
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar April 6 2020 18: 18 New
                      +1
                      If you press it, then yes laughing
                  2. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave April 6 2020 16: 01 New
                    +2
                    That's how they met, Asol and Captain Gray !!!! laughing
      2. Overlock
        Overlock April 6 2020 10: 33 New
        10
        Quote: Krasnodar
        So all sorts of Leroy Merlin open?

        are closed
        1. Freeman
          Freeman April 6 2020 16: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: Overlock
          Quote: Krasnodar
          So all sorts of Leroy Merlin open?

          are closed

          В Москве, работают "по-хитрому". Официально - закрыты.
          Но! Делаете заказ через сайт - и получаете "самовывозом" из магазина.
    2. _Sergei_
      _Sergei_ April 6 2020 09: 45 New
      +1
      Today I went for screws, everything works
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave April 6 2020 09: 47 New
        +1
        Sergei! hi
        What city?
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky April 6 2020 11: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: _Sergey_
        Today I went for screws, everything works

        Yesterday was too. He took an electric cable, box, distribution box. Leroy is working. True, the queue is cut off by 10 people, so that the crowd at the cash registers is not going to.
        ps - Yaroslavl.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave April 6 2020 12: 54 New
          +3
          My location: St. Petersburg. hi
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 6 2020 06: 59 New
    +6
    Quote: Thrifty
    Who will change the cuckoo to hawk, that is, the old president to the new? And, the catch is that in our political arena there is no adequate situation that can solve the main thing - to take care of the country's economy!


    Кем менять?...Ну, менять нам вряд ли дадут, выбирать из "согласованных" портретов - это да. laughing
    Не соглашусь, что совсем нет "потенциальных кандидатов". Герой Русской Весны в Севастополе г-н Чалов, например. Успешный бизнесмен, мужественный человек, политик.
    And he, suddenly, was quickly removed. bully
    I think there are other people in Russia. The price of the issue is massive support.
    The virus made so many people finally think.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir April 6 2020 08: 07 New
      +9
      .Well, they are unlikely to give us change
      By your faith you will be rewarded.
      Remember all countries voted for the Union in a referendum. Here is just one thing to put a tick in a piece of paper, and the other with all our might to wish for market socialism with a human face. 270 million wished. And now in the market, it is true without socialism without a face, but the main desire is fulfilled.
      At the last election, both supporters and opponents of Putin said, well, now they will elect him anyway, but in 2024. Well, the wish has been fulfilled.
      Observe, the point is not whether you believe it or not. It will be as everyone wants. And so when many really want changes. The changes will come. In the meantime, all these false analysts are crushing their mass. Look at what Putin supporters are proud of, and nothing. They do not even give any evidence. But...
      But dig in your soul, do you agree to change? Not one day to go back in time in a time machine, but to live in an ever-changing reality, when everything that is familiar is crumbling. Only reality will change anyway. The only question is who will change you or them.
      Well, for dessert.
      https://www.proza.ru/2016/08/10/1569
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 April 6 2020 08: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: Gardamir
        ... and live in an ever-changing reality, when all that is familiar is crumbling. Only reality will change anyway ...


        Да жизнь и так ПОСТОЯННО сильно меняется со смерти Брежнева. Уже давно адаптировался к "стабильной нестабильности". laughing

        п.с. Не думаю, что НЕОРГАНИЗОВАННАЯ энергия "статистических единиц" с билетом в руках, что-либо изменит. hi
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion April 6 2020 08: 43 New
        -24
        Your problem is that in front of someone like you, it’s useless even to build the Crimean bridge, even to take the Reichstag, even to make the whole country accessible in Turkey every year. You’ll whine anyway that everything’s wrong with you, that Putin stole your pension from you (let's make a pension from 50 years old and everyone will be happy).

        I am surprised that Putin generally tolerates you, for something in 20 years, obviously all this has gotten so that you never dreamed of. And even you can’t express yourself in front of cameras.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir April 6 2020 09: 14 New
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          In order. Nobody would have prevented the liberation of the Donbass, would not have to build a bridge. However, the Donbass was organized so that the yellow-black in Crimea did not climb.
          Reichstag freed red, not tricolor do not stick on. I don’t understand why if your dream of sunbathing in Turkey should please me. I want to be free, as it was in the USSR.
          But your Wuhan flu is an occasion to strengthen totalitarianism.
          Is it clear now! Or again you will give out their Wishlist for the common good?
        2. Freeman
          Freeman April 6 2020 16: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: EvilLion
          I am surprised that Putin generally tolerates you, for something in 20 years, obviously all this has gotten so that you never dreamed of. And even you can’t express yourself in front of cameras.


          good "+100500". Давно так не смеялся.
          За этот "пассаж" - вам "+"

          ЗЫ. Владимир Владимирович, неужто Вы, до "ВО" снизошли?
          Вот, что "самоизоляция животворящая" делает. wassat lol
    2. depressant
      depressant April 6 2020 10: 50 New
      +5
      Chalova - support!
      So, she said, and I think with concern: Chalov should now take care of himself. And then you never know what ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 6 2020 07: 05 New
    +3
    Now I’m going to work, they’ve called, I’ll see how they stop in the city? If they stop?
    In the meantime, in the village, in the district center, everything is quiet !!!
    The people are working, they are fulfilling the food program for their family !!!
    So it is with us. Nobody gets underground, everyone works!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech April 6 2020 07: 38 New
      11
      The people are working, they are fulfilling the food program for their family !!!
      So it is with us. Nobody gets underground, everyone works!

      Unfortunately, not everything is so gracious ... inadequate appeared ... go out with knives.
      In my city, what an abnormal man stabbed several people in broad daylight ... belay.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 6 2020 09: 08 New
        +8
        So spring has not ended yet, there is also a crisis in the brain, in the media and many more where it has nestled itself !!!
        Plus, forced \ not forced idleness ...
        Idleness. it is the ENEMY OF ALL !!!
        Who works, does what he loves / needs, he is not in crisis, however !!!
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 6 2020 07: 08 New
    12
    Quote: Mikhail M
    President makes retinue

    Иван Грозный, Петр I, Александр III, Сталин сами сурово "делали" эту свиту.
    Ну, а такие, как Николай Романов или ЕБН - "уходили в отставку".

    Хуже всего, когда "Марта Скавронская" "какбыправит"... bully From her politics there were only portraits. laughing
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 6 2020 08: 39 New
      -9
      It is interesting from where only such shots as Nikita Khrushch, Yezhov, Egorov got to this Stalinist retinue, which Stalin personally deleted from the submitted lists until such evidence brought that it was impossible not to disbelieve.
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 April 6 2020 08: 43 New
        10
        Quote: EvilLion
        It is interesting from where only such shots as Nikita Khrushch, Yezhov, Egorov got to this Stalinist retinue, which Stalin personally deleted from the submitted lists until such evidence brought that it was impossible not to disbelieve.


        Так Сталин - совсем не "всемогущий". Да и вообще, "человеку свойственно ошибаться".
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion April 6 2020 08: 46 New
          -16
          And for sure, I forgot. To blame. Putin is God with us. In the famous former republic, even his cult is.
          1. samarin1969
            samarin1969 April 6 2020 08: 48 New
            10
            Quote: EvilLion
            And for sure, I forgot. To blame. Putin is God with us. In the famous former republic, even his cult is.

            А причем тут Путин? ...И республику пока не смог "идентифицировать". laughing
          2. Gardamir
            Gardamir April 6 2020 09: 19 New
            14
            In general, yours is to blame for everything Stalin, Putin has a different position, there is always nothing to do with it.
  • Amateur
    Amateur April 6 2020 07: 39 New
    +7
    Такое впечатление, что кто-то сознательно провоцирует ВВП на самые непопулярные поступки. Обнуление - явно непопулярная мера. Помощь американцам - издевательство над россиянами. Ну а речь про "обязательные выплаты зарплат" - это шедевр некомпетентности и неинформированности руководителя. Поневоле вспоминается К. Клаузевиц:
    “Russia is not a country that can really be conquered, that is, occupied ... Such a country can be defeated only by internal weakness and the action of discord. But to reach these weak points of political life is possible only through a shock that would penetrate to the very heart of the country. ”
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 6 2020 07: 54 New
    13
    "Я не против того, чтобы Владимир Путин-2024 снова стал президентом. Но чтобы это был президент образца не 2020 года, а 2002-го."
    Wonderful Wishlist.
    Surely many people want Stalin -1928, and Stalin 1943, and Brezhnev 1966 ..

    But the result is one. As soon as in 2008 the rise in oil prices stopped, so did the growth of the real economy.
    Only the number of billionaires, millionaires, etc. grew. All old seven-bank friends and dealers of the 1st Family are inviolable.

    And who could have real authority for the presidency there? General and surgeon? Remind me what we ended up with?

    Conclusion, IMHO. There will be a life president in the best traditions of Africa. It doesn't matter whose last name is at the top. No one will give up power from hands with such percentage of profit .....
  • I
    I April 6 2020 07: 58 New
    -10
    I read what the treatment for coronavirus in the USA was and was horrified. For some reason, our liberals are not talking about this. But this is a fortune. From 40 to 70 thousand dollars. And insurance may not help if the medical institution considers that this case is not spelled out in it. And judging by the number of infected people (more than 300 thousand people), you understand that it is not in vain that they say who the war is and who the mother is close to. That’s where the ruin and the robbery are.
    А у нас, благодаря принятым мерам, заболевших почти в сто раз меньше. Да и смертность на данный момент не превышает процентной смертности от гриппа ( <1 %). Вроде бы можно было бы, по крайней мере пока, воздержаться от критики Путина и с пониманием отнестись. Ан нет, надо нести всякую чушь и обхаять президента даже в этот трудный момент.
    Somehow everything is low.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona April 6 2020 08: 15 New
      +6
      In our country, the infection has begun to spread more slowly, and is growing at an accelerated pace. Plus, private owners were banned from checking for the virus, so all statistics are completely in the hands of the state.
      1. I
        I April 6 2020 08: 22 New
        -5
        ,, is growing at an accelerated pace. ,,

        Why lie?

        In my hometown near Moscow there is not one infected. And this despite the fact that many people go to Moscow to work.
        The population is less than 100 thousand. Therefore, each bunch is audible.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona April 6 2020 08: 48 New
          +8
          The situation in Russia

          In Russia, 658 new cases of coronavirus infection were detected per day. Thus, the total number of cases in the country is 5389, 45 people died.

          https://www.rbc.ru/society/05/04/2020/5e2fe9459a79479d102bada6
          The data of the evening on April 5.
          It can be seen that the growth rate of infected more than 10% per day
          1. I
            I April 6 2020 09: 02 New
            -11
            And how do you like such statistics?


            ,, By March 12, diagnosed cases of COVID-19 in the United States exceeded one thousand, after which this number doubled every two days and by March 20 reached 17 thousand.

            By March 26, the United States came first in the world in terms of the number of cases, ahead of China and Italy.

            By March 27, the number of cases in the United States exceeded 100, by April 000, 1, and by April 200, 000. ,,
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir April 6 2020 09: 28 New
              11
              And so you write from the USA, maybe we'll talk about Russia. Everyone sees the data in Yandex at once, and you're talking about a bunch. As for merit, count how many hospitals he closed, how many doctors he reduced.
              1. I
                I April 6 2020 09: 39 New
                -10
                Everything is relative.


                In Russia, over a thousand exceeded 27.03.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX.

                That is, if the spread rate were the same as in the United States, then by April 4.04.2020, 17 there would have to be about 11.04.2020 thousand patients with coronavirus, and by April 100, XNUMX the number of cases should exceed XNUMX thousand people.

                That is, the measures are correct and timely. And Putin, in this regard, well done!
              2. I
                I April 6 2020 10: 03 New
                -11
                ,, Data in Yandex can see everything at once, but you're talking about a bunch,

                The fact of the matter is that liberals play on this and rub people, that real data is hidden. And that there are more cases. And I show by my example that the opposition is lying, as well as almost always.
            2. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona April 6 2020 13: 36 New
              +4
              I say we started a little closer.
              By the way, new data rolled up
              954 new cases per day in Russia. Follow the US scenario
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 6 2020 10: 36 New
          15
          Quote: it's me
          growing at an accelerated pace. ,,

          Why lie?

          In my hometown near Moscow there is not one infected. And this despite the fact that many people go to Moscow to work.
          The population is less than 100 thousand. Therefore, each bunch is audible.

          You are lucky, but this does not mean that there is no virus
          1. I
            I April 6 2020 10: 54 New
            -1
            Once again I say that everything is relative
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 6 2020 08: 50 New
      -11
      Over the past 20 years, our leadership has learned how to solve real problems in the face of opposition, they have forgotten how to do it in the post-Soviet years, but it has learned to chat. He was in the 2008 bell, although 30 years before that, this would have been simply impossible. Well, the well-fed years are over, for all, for us, you may have to take the iPhone cheaper and less often, for them, as it were, not from the cottage to the street.
    3. depressant
      depressant April 6 2020 10: 58 New
      +4
      I will not die in the coming summer
      Thanks to Putin for that!
      So yes?
  • Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 April 6 2020 08: 04 New
    +9
    Что тут не ясного "Денег нет, но вы держитесь!"
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion April 6 2020 08: 27 New
    -14
    Again, the state did not protect the author, although even with a moronic virus Russia was almost the only country in which the epidemic is under control.
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion April 6 2020 08: 28 New
    -21
    In general, when people like the author scold Putin, I once again become convinced that Putin, like Stalin, would be a country without him.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir April 6 2020 09: 30 New
      15
      Where is Putin now?
      1. Overlock
        Overlock April 6 2020 10: 37 New
        17
        Quote: Gardamir
        Where is Putin now?

        the chieftain thinks
  • Keeping
    Keeping April 6 2020 08: 30 New
    +2
    A strong Russia is needed for another 50 years to all, our elites and their Western partners. Until the complete depletion of natural resources (forest, fish, oil, gas, diamonds, gold). After 50 years, it will become extremely unprofitable to extract the remains. Our only asset will be the drinking water of Lake Baikal. But we (Russia / USSR) will never be again! Not one Peter the Great / Stalin can create a country without anything, without resources.
  • tatra
    tatra April 6 2020 08: 38 New
    13
    Путин поступил как Путин на посту руководителя Государства . Всегда ,когда в России случались какие-то трагедии ,он исчезал на несколько дней . И после объявления о повышении пенсионного возраста ,он "самоизолировался ", на полтора месяца ,-не высказывался по этому поводу ,чтобы всю ответственность за повышение пенсионного возраста свалить на Медведева ,министров ,едроссов ,и чтобы возмущение народа обрушилось на них ,а не на него .
    One of the most important qualities of the enemies of the Communists, with whom they imagined that they deserve to own the country, is cowardice, a complete lack of a sense of responsibility.
  • 30143
    30143 April 6 2020 08: 44 New
    +5
    Where in a month thousands of employees of small enterprises that were ruined by then will go, Vladimir Vladimirovich is clearly not very interested. And they will have nowhere to go.


    How nowhere? To the war ... as was done in Ukraine. First they killed the production. How to feed the family? Where to work? Fine! Let's go to war ... with my brother, neighbor .... Oh, we take the grub, the equipment from them. In general, no one forbids looting.

    У меня вопрос - с кем может начать РФ боевые действия? За какие цели и какие идеалы? За Героев труда России? Или под лозунгом "бей украинцев" начнут рубить коридор в Крым? Или прибалтов? Или саудитов по пустыне гонять?
    This is the question - where?
    Only I have only two questions that remain unanswered - for what and for what?
    And I understand that not everyone wants the Russian world with green men.
  • Jurkovs
    Jurkovs April 6 2020 08: 51 New
    -11
    The military review turned into a platform of political views of Roman Skomorokhov.
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 08: 53 New
    +5
    Самое плохое, то что все эти меры, приведут к "пролетаризации" (разорению) мелкого и среднего бизнеса, а опираясь на "мелких лавочников" к власти могут придти те силы. которые пришли в Германии и Италии 30-х годов. Уже сей час здесь на форуме слышны голоса о необходимости твердой руки. Какие хорошие лозунги об объединении народа перед лицом опасности (короновирус, ы и т.д.). Представляете, как здорово мне объединиться с Абрамовичами, Ротенбергами и прочими лучшими людьми, каждый на своем месте и все работают на благо Отечества, а во главе непогрешимый вождь нации (вообще плевать как его фамилия).
  • Chingachguk
    Chingachguk April 6 2020 08: 57 New
    -10
    The article itself and most of the comments on it sound like a call for a change of power. Did you find the right time? Now, only in Russia does everyone feel bad against the background of the coronavirus?
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 09: 03 New
      -7
      Quote: Chingachguk
      The article itself and most of the comments on it sound like a call for a change of power. Did you find the right time? Now, only in Russia does everyone feel bad against the background of the coronavirus?

      Changing bad oligarchs to good socially responsible businessmen, as in Ukraine, is definitely not an option.
      1. Chingachguk
        Chingachguk April 6 2020 09: 06 New
        -8
        I ask --- did you find the right time to raise these questions? Understand............
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 09: 09 New
          12
          Quote: Chingachguk
          I ask --- did you find the right time to raise these questions? Understand............

          Tell me when to raise these issues? They do not raise. it will only get worse.
          1. Chingachguk
            Chingachguk April 6 2020 09: 22 New
            -7
            Worse to whom?
            And the second - are there specific surnames and programs? Or is it much more necessary and interesting to procrastinate the issue of a change of power? Change the president of Russia to whom? What is the last name? Let us discuss the program of the newfound, and not the very action of the change of power (revolution).
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 10: 06 New
              +2
              Quote: Chingachguk
              Worse to whom?
              And the second - are there specific surnames and programs? Or is it much more necessary and interesting to procrastinate the issue of a change of power? Change the president of Russia to whom? What is the last name? Let us discuss the program of the newfound, and not the very action of the change of power (revolution).

              Strictly speaking, I do not believe at all that as a result of bourgeois elections, representatives of a class other than the bourgeoisie can come to power. There may be many left-wing parties in the parliamentary elections, mostly non-systemic parties, they are trying to organize now, often negotiate with the Communist Party and go from them to local councils.
              1. Chingachguk
                Chingachguk April 6 2020 11: 57 New
                0
                Parliamentary elections? Is this where parliamentarians sit on the salaries of the west? laughing As soon as parliament begins to rule in Russia, its end will come.
              2. Chingachguk
                Chingachguk April 6 2020 11: 59 New
                0
                The fable of Kornei can tell about the parliaments most clearly ---- Once a swan, a crayfish and a pike ....... and things are still there.
          2. tatra
            tatra April 6 2020 09: 50 New
            +7
            Ха ,да никогда . Все последние 30 лет мы слишим и читаем от власти ,и тех ,кто за власть ,сначала от Ельцина и "либералов " "потерпите ,сейчас не время менять коней на переправе ", потом от Путина и его соратничков "потерпите , сейчас не время раскачивать лодку ,кругом враги ". Сейчас у них новая отмазка -коронавирус .
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 08: 59 New
    +9
    Quote: EvilLion
    Again, the state did not protect the author, although even with a moronic virus Russia was almost the only country in which the epidemic is under control.

    What control is it under? In my city, the CRH was turned into a hospital for patients with coronovirus from all over the district (there are 4 official patients so far). We have not even really started yet. While just getting ready.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 09: 19 New
      +9
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      What control is it under? In my city, the CRH was turned into a hospital for patients with coronovirus from all over the district (there are 4 official patients so far). We have not even really started yet. While just getting ready.

      It is unclear why the cons? Here is the link from the office. Website https vvv labinsk.ru/?fullview_laba=20200405
  • Aliken
    Aliken April 6 2020 09: 04 New
    +3
    There are few real rioters, and there are no leaders.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 6 2020 09: 14 New
    12
    Novel! I guessed in style and mood that you were from the very first offers. But!!! Excuse me, why so much water? And right under the curtain:
    I repeat. I am not opposed to Vladimir Putin-2024 becoming president again. But so that it was the president of the model not in 2020, but in 2002.

    Are you firmly convinced that it was in 2002 that he was sincere and honest? It seems to me that he agreed to become president, bearing his plans. His tenure ended in 2008. And all the rest of the time, he only did what he put together in the upper echelons of power his “manual” team, ready for anything for the sake of the existence of this very, first “extended”, and after the “nullified” regime. And, I must admit honestly, he put together.
    Now that he has become that “guarantor” from which by and large it is impossible to ask (the people have no such source of authority), he will not answer anyone and discuss in the election debate (hypothetically, if it happened) neither with whom it will not be, who has changed and rewritten the warranty obligations yourself !!!, you are trying to believe in its rebirth ... No, there will not be rebirth. Everything is said here, everything is noted, everything is recorded ... Here the situation is akin to this:

    This is not the same Putin, honestly. That Putin walked and solved problems. Good or bad, he went to solve them. And this one ...

    Correctly! And that Putin, and this one decided ITS Problems. All he did was strive to stay in power at all costs, to preserve everything, for which all the small and big “wheels and gears” of power were spinning. That is precisely why state problems remained with us: our lack of rights, our poverty and industrial weakness, our incomprehensible foreign "partner-friends" and a hopeless future, when only Putin's close associates from all incomes ...
  • Oleg1
    Oleg1 April 6 2020 09: 18 New
    -10
    I don’t know how about the coup, which some media and bloggers have amicably voiced about, of course, there is something in this. I mean that Putin allowed the FSO to use technology and everything else. They say it is afraid of a coup and overthrow.

    I will say this: not without reason. The ratings go there, the knock comes from there, and everything is in the bottom. So there are reasons.
    Congratulations, lying:

    Address of the President of Russia to citizens and ratings of government institutions
    74% of Russians surveyed trust Vladimir Putin, 72% approve of his work as President of the Russian Federation.
    https://wciom.ru/index.php?id=236&uid=10219
    Threat ashamed of VO descended to the publications of open lies.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 09: 26 New
      +9
      Quote: Oleg1
      I don’t know how about the coup, which some media and bloggers have amicably voiced about, of course, there is something in this. I mean that Putin allowed the FSO to use technology and everything else. They say it is afraid of a coup and overthrow.

      I will say this: not without reason. The ratings go there, the knock comes from there, and everything is in the bottom. So there are reasons.
      Congratulations, lying:

      Address of the President of Russia to citizens and ratings of government institutions
      74% of Russians surveyed trust Vladimir Putin, 72% approve of his work as President of the Russian Federation.
      https://wciom.ru/index.php?id=236&uid=10219
      Threat ashamed of VO descended to the publications of open lies.

      Вы им доверяете (карманным рейтингам)? Посмотрите на посты под последними речами Путина. Вы думаете это все "злобные проплаченные тролли"?
  • Peter Tverdokhlebov
    Peter Tverdokhlebov April 6 2020 09: 24 New
    +2
    If the bulk was an independent person he would have been killed or put in prison a long time ago, and he was alive and healthy and sent his daughter to study in the USA, this means that the bulk is the same Western agent as Putin!
  • Oleg1
    Oleg1 April 6 2020 09: 29 New
    -8
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: Oleg1
    I don’t know how about the coup, which some media and bloggers have amicably voiced about, of course, there is something in this. I mean that Putin allowed the FSO to use technology and everything else. They say it is afraid of a coup and overthrow.

    I will say this: not without reason. The ratings go there, the knock comes from there, and everything is in the bottom. So there are reasons.
    Congratulations, lying:

    Address of the President of Russia to citizens and ratings of government institutions
    74% of Russians surveyed trust Vladimir Putin, 72% approve of his work as President of the Russian Federation.
    https://wciom.ru/index.php?id=236&uid=10219
    Threat ashamed of VO descended to the publications of open lies.

    Вы им доверяете (карманным рейтингам)? Посмотрите на посты под последними речами Путина. Вы думаете это все "злобные проплаченные тролли"?


    Give the data of an independent agency, see, listen, if you do not have them, then better keep quiet ....
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 10: 25 New
      0
      Quote: Oleg1
      Give the data of an independent agency, see, listen, if you do not have them, then better keep quiet ....

      Just look at the number of likes and dislikes under the last speeches, read the comments, and then think and draw conclusions, it's not difficult.
  • Chingachguk
    Chingachguk April 6 2020 09: 30 New
    0
    Revolution is certainly fun! Wow! You can jump, try the cookies! Only now, before stupidly bouncing on the spot, I want to understand, but for what? What to change for? A simple question - what personally will my family and I get from this new one, for which they urge me to ride today? Announce the whole list please. And be sure to name the programs and names with the names of those with whom I then ask if they try to deceive me as they did in Ukraine ....
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir April 6 2020 10: 02 New
      +9
      So there was a revolution in 91-93 as you? The real revolution changed the system. And the ruler was the same president of the RSFSR, became president of the Russian Federation. And there’s nothing to complain about. But if you think about the coup.
      1. Chingachguk
        Chingachguk April 6 2020 11: 52 New
        -2
        Why revolution for the sake of revolution? Bored? Yes, and those who call for this, they themselves will not jump, they will receive dividends ....... It turns out like in a joke --- and what for I climbed here !!!! I don’t know how to read anyway !!!!
  • Oleg1
    Oleg1 April 6 2020 09: 32 New
    -6
    Quote: Peter Tverdokhlebov
    If the bulk was an independent person he would have been killed or put in prison a long time ago, and he was alive and healthy and sent his daughter to study in the USA, this means that the bulk is the same Western agent as Putin!



    Putin is a Western agent? Apparently, therefore, such persecution was launched against him in the West, and apparently therefore such money was invested in the West against the anti-Putin opposition ....
    Threat check with a psychiatrist, you have something with logic .... a feeling that there are serious problems ...
    1. Peter Tverdokhlebov
      Peter Tverdokhlebov April 6 2020 09: 40 New
      +3
      Do you know how to think with your head?
      Or do you have one?
      Harassment in the West is all a show! This is the first.
      Во-вторых запад любит путина вспомни слова трампа о "прекрасном человеке" вспомни рейтинги журналов Форбс, тайм и т.д.
      Tell me better why the Western agent Putin destroyed all chemical weapons?
      Tell me how the Western agent Putin is taking time with the adoption of Sarmat, Petrel, S-500, etc.
    2. tatra
      tatra April 6 2020 09: 58 New
      +1
      С логикой у него всё в порядке , Враги коммунистов на Западе ,в Европе ,на территории СССР ,все 100 лет после Октябрьской революции ведут их злобные ,агрессивные ,клеветнические ,лицемерные информационные войны как против инакомыслящих ,так и против друг друга -и по одному шаблону -нагнетание истерии ,накидывание бездоказательных ,клеветнических обвинений ,оправдание преступлений врагов тех ,кого они выбрали "образом врага ", с лицемерным "праведным гневом " выставление за преступления тех ,кого они выбрали "образом врага ", всех фактов ,на которые им во всех остальных случаях плевать -они их оправдывают или "не замечают ".
  • Oleg1
    Oleg1 April 6 2020 09: 34 New
    -4
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: Oleg1
    I don’t know how about the coup, which some media and bloggers have amicably voiced about, of course, there is something in this. I mean that Putin allowed the FSO to use technology and everything else. They say it is afraid of a coup and overthrow.

    I will say this: not without reason. The ratings go there, the knock comes from there, and everything is in the bottom. So there are reasons.
    Congratulations, lying:

    Address of the President of Russia to citizens and ratings of government institutions
    74% of Russians surveyed trust Vladimir Putin, 72% approve of his work as President of the Russian Federation.
    https://wciom.ru/index.php?id=236&uid=10219
    Threat ashamed of VO descended to the publications of open lies.

    Вы им доверяете (карманным рейтингам)? Посмотрите на посты под последними речами Путина. Вы думаете это все "злобные проплаченные тролли"?


    Give your rating of Putin, see the source, evaluate, but yours is not your love for him and a few people in this is not an argument ....
    1. tatra
      tatra April 6 2020 10: 02 New
      +4
      And what are your arguments for Putin? Which of what Putin has created over 20 years is good for Russia and its people?
      1. flicker
        flicker April 7 2020 01: 29 New
        0
        And what are your arguments for Putin? Which of what Putin has created over 20 years is good for Russia and its people?

        Do you regret that the USSR collapsed?
  • awdrgy
    awdrgy April 6 2020 09: 38 New
    +1
    Если не смотреть новости и не поддаваться панике тех кто их смотрит то нет никакого предчувствия опасности со стороны этой болячки Нет и все тут (многие понимают что я имею ввиду) Ощущение того что "че то будет" -есть но не завтра И непонятно к чему быть готовым Сми пугают-это очевидно Зачем?-с испуганным легче продвинуть то на что он никогда бы не пошел(Почему не купировали почему не скрыли почему "раскрутили" коронавирус?-цель напугать Только и только поэтому он уже 3 месяца по всем каналам и в инете)Кстати интересно сколько их аналитики отвели времени на "испуг" большинства?А если не хватит испуга?Какой план "Б"? Что еще придумают?Ведь очевидно что идет активная фаза плана и коней на переправе ни менять ни останавливать не будут Что же хотят продвинуть в мире? Обязательные прививки с какой нибудь хитрой секретной дрянью? Посадить всех на дистанционку при этом сделав электронку чуть ли не паспортом а потом так и оставить и потихоньку ужесточить? Контроль полный контроль каждого шага а то и мысли-вот цель власть придержащих во все времена И сейчас благодаря технологиям ее осуществление как никогда близко Технологии это ведь иногда использование "естественных но тайных сил природы" Где же это написано? Вот такие мысли приходят на ум
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir April 6 2020 10: 05 New
      +4
      If you take a reference point, it all started with a message and spin without interruption.
      1. awdrgy
        awdrgy April 6 2020 10: 53 New
        +1
        For us, yes, but I believe that the full picture will be visible if you look for these points a little earlier in other countries (it didn’t start with us anyway). But I haven’t even looked for such information in the internet lately, as it’s not before. You can try to dig something and And it makes sense to look for indirect facts confirming the obvious goal? Moreover, since you cannot find direct evidence here, serious opportunities are needed
  • Overlock
    Overlock April 6 2020 09: 43 New
    17
    One trend merges ....
    But as soon as the question arose that the state should (yes, hell, it should !!!) protect its citizens, that’s all, the state began to merge.

    и второй...."Если государство сваливает эту заботу на нас самих, пусть исчезнет, нам будет гораздо легче!"-Лауреат Нобелевской премии по физике, академик РАН Жорес Алферов .
    This question is already asked by many today.
    Multiply this by the nonsense of local governors who block cities, stop transport on highways with all the ensuing consequences such as stopping still operating enterprises, food shortages and rising prices for them, rising unemployment and beggars, falling ruble cattle and we are in a situation on the eve of the collapse of the USSR .
    But ....
    I want to live well. No matter what.
    and I want to save the country. Nowhere to Retreat
    1. I
      I April 6 2020 10: 06 New
      -3
      ,, Nobel laureate in physics, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Zhores Alferov ,,

      And what did the laureate Gorbachev say?
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 12: 22 New
        +6
        Quote: it's me
        , Nobel laureate in physics, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Zhores Alferov ,,

        And what did the laureate Gorbachev say?

        I believe that comparing them is stupid.
        1. I
          I April 6 2020 13: 25 New
          -6
          ,, I believe that comparing them is stupid. ,,

          It is foolish to bring stupid thoughts of others
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 13: 50 New
            +5
            Quote: it's me
            It is foolish to bring stupid thoughts of others

            And what did you read Zhores Alferov? What programs did you watch with him? What thoughts do you think are stupid?
            1. I
              I April 6 2020 19: 55 New
              -2
              "Если государство сваливает эту заботу на нас самих, пусть исчезнет, нам будет гораздо легче!"

              This is a stupid idea.

              A stupid letter to the president of 10 ancient academicians about the clericalization of society.

              Well, sitting in the deputy’s chair up to 88 years old, until his death, also says a lot.
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 20: 40 New
                +1
                Quote: it's me
                A stupid letter to the president of 10 ancient academicians about the clericalization of society.

                Do not you think the problem of merging the church with the state? Do you think it is normal to build three churches a day (average number) when schools are closed and education is degraded?
                Quote: it's me
                Well, sitting in the deputy’s chair up to 88 years old, until his death, also says a lot.

                He retained clarity of mind until his death.
                Quote: it's me
                "Если государство сваливает эту заботу на нас самих, пусть исчезнет, нам будет гораздо легче!"

                It will really be easier for me if the state changes its social formation.
                1. I
                  I April 6 2020 21: 14 New
                  -3
                  Where is the closure of schools, what a lie? Schools are being built.

                  Temples are not built even the number that the Communists were destroyed.

                  The degradation is not due to the construction of churches, but because of a stupid educational policy.

                  Anyway, the communist idea is just a dumb dream, which has nothing to do with reality.

                  At 88 years old, whatever the clarity of mind, legislative activity is no longer possible.


                  ,, It will really be easier for me if the state changes the social formation. ,,

                  Change but not fade
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 23: 02 New
                    +2
                    Quote: it's me
                    Where is the closure of schools, what a lie? Schools are being built.

                    На эту тему в сети есть хороший фильм К. Семина "Последний звонок". Посмотрите.
                    Quote: it's me
                    Temples are not built even the number that the Communists were destroyed.

                    According to the churches https://ria.ru/20171225/1511652528.html
                    Quote: it's me
                    Anyway, the communist idea is just a dumb dream, which has nothing to do with reality.

                    I don’t even want to discuss obvious stupidity.
                    1. I
                      I April 7 2020 09: 11 New
                      0
                      ,, I don’t even want to discuss obvious stupidity. ,,


                      This is what I liked most. They don’t want to discuss what they don’t know how to explain and what they themselves don’t understand. wink
                    2. I
                      I April 7 2020 09: 15 New
                      0
                      ,, According to the churches https://ria.ru/20171225/1511652528.html ,,


                      Have you ever read it yourself? Here is what is written there:




                      ,, According to statistics, three churches a day are opened in the Russian Orthodox Church, and if construction continues at the same pace, then in 25-30 years the number of churches in Russia will double before reaching the pre-revolutionary level, said Metropolitan Hilarion of the Synodal Department for External Church Relations . ,,
                    3. I
                      I April 7 2020 09: 19 New
                      -1
                      ,,На эту тему в сети есть хороший фильм К. Семина "Последний звонок". Посмотрите.,,


                      Why watch the bullshit? When in my hometown near Moscow over the past few years a second school was built and opened. And a mother-in-law in a forgotten village in the Nizhny Novgorod region is building a new school.
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker April 6 2020 09: 47 New
    +6
    The article posed the right questions. And the authorities do not give answers to them. No one even imagines - what next?
    Приехали "пацаны" из Москвы, после Новогодних праздников, озабоченные. Или по шутили или напугали их так. Понять не могут. Говорят июнь - сентябрь правительство планирует ДЕФОЛТ объявить? Прочитав статью сразу это вспомнил.
  • Oleg1
    Oleg1 April 6 2020 09: 55 New
    -5
    Quote: Peter Tverdokhlebov
    Do you know how to think with your head?
    Or do you have one?
    Harassment in the West is all a show! This is the first.
    Во-вторых запад любит путина вспомни слова трампа о "прекрасном человеке" вспомни рейтинги журналов Форбс, тайм и т.д.
    Tell me better why the Western agent Putin destroyed all chemical weapons?
    Tell me how the Western agent Putin is taking time with the adoption of Sarmat, Petrel, S-500, etc.



    Spectacle? Sanctions because of which Europe lost billions is this a show? Hundreds of millions of dollars thrown into our opshizu this performance? Boo-ha-ha. This is such money that the West will never begin to swell in any performance and under no circumstances!
    "Расскажи как западный агент Путин тянет время с принятием на вооружение Сармата, Буревестника, С-500 и т.д." а еще он тянет с принятием на вооружение боевых звездолетов с анигляторами и ЗВЕЗД СМЕРТИ! Сволочуга.
    Once again, urgently to a psychiatrist! Systemic Logic Defeat!
    PS I enlighten from the task of developing technology to taking it into the army, it takes from 5 to 15 years. If you don’t know, then let me ask how many year-olds you have .... I hope the kindergarten is a rather distant past?
  • Fanur Galiev
    Fanur Galiev April 6 2020 10: 10 New
    +6
    Is there any difference from who is sitting in the presidential chair? Isn't he just the face of those who actually rule the country? Perhaps due to what happened in the 90s (especially after the 1998 default), their sharp contrast compared to the same fat zeros seems an incredible achievement, and, which is characteristic, there is a huge difference between the leaders of the state, but if you deny it, to reject good times of oil for $ 100 and recovery time after the crisis as a result of the work of Primakov’s team, it turns out that there’s not much difference. What is especially evident in the post-crisis period after 2008.
    If we distract from Russia and look at other countries, the picture there comes out quite clear. Yanukovych was in Ukraine, Poroshenko became, and then Zelensky changed him. Did something fundamentally change if you put aside the war in the Donbass. Presidents themselves in fact act similarly. Or what is the fundamental difference between Sarkozy-Hollande-Macron?
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 April 6 2020 10: 11 New
    +3
    Here the thing is that we have a president with a figuratively speaking head and, so, fool about trifles. All significant initiatives are either sabotaged or, conversely, perverted by the retinue. And there is no way to look for a replacement for this retinue, because there is no vertical mobility and the limit of desires of those who have fallen in power, it will cling to someone’s business, fill up the money and get out of the country. Really necessary laws on the brakes are released. What is it worth obliging to keep the profits of all firms registered in Russia just in Russia? Then there would be a direct interest not to collapse the ruble over or not. Or the same trade unions, for show, there is also labor protection.
  • Oleg1
    Oleg1 April 6 2020 10: 27 New
    +1
    Quote: tatra
    And what are your arguments for Putin? Which of what Putin has created over 20 years is good for Russia and its people?


    My arguments are not against him, but against people like you and the author of the article, I am against repeating 91 years and a new collapse, but in the republics. He prevented this and lifted the country out of the horror of what it was in the 90s, and you want a repetition of this, without thinking, for money, it does not matter. That is why most of Russia is against you!
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets April 6 2020 12: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: Oleg1
      My arguments are not against him, but against people like you and the author of the article, I am against repeating 91 years and a new collapse, but in the republics. He prevented this and lifted the country out of the horror of what it was in the 90s, and you want a repetition of this, without thinking, for money, it does not matter. That is why most of Russia is against you!

      Наверное нет здесь человека в здравом уме который хотел бы повторения "святых девяностых", но мое мнение, в том, что сегодня у власти именно те люди, которые и развалили СССР, они прикрываются красивыми фразами, а в реальности Россия сегодня, лишь сырьевой придаток экономически более развитых стран.