How to find a responsible president for the future?

I don’t know how about the coup, which some media and bloggers have amicably voiced about, of course, there is something in this. I mean that Putin allowed the FSO to use technology and everything else. They say it is afraid of a coup and overthrow.

I will say this: not without reason. The ratings go there, the knock comes from there, and everything is in the bottom. So there are reasons. About the fact that the FSO will defend ... Well, this, you know, how to approach the issue.

The number of FSO does not exceed 50 thousand people, and even they are scattered slightly. Well, definitely not a panacea, agree. Well, if the "formidable forces", then the FSO is definitely not an assistant. Well, yes, the plane will cover taking off. No more.

In addition, the FSO does not seem to be intended against the rioting population. For the population there is the Russian Guard and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Against whom then can apply the technique, weapon and not bother with the responsibility of the FSO? Against electoral competitors, or what? It’s also strange, again there will be a godmother with stupid statements (if they persuade Ksenia) and a couple of eternal “oppositionists”.

On Navalny, excuse me, enough of the precinct. And another 30-day arrest.

But I'm completely different. I’m saying that relatively soon (we don’t have time to get sick all) I have to choose. Again, either the election without a choice, or the election of Putin, but something like this will happen in 2024.

And here is a consideration, because we need a responsible president. Able, able, understanding and all that. Putin 2. Just Putin. Putin zeroed, in fact, it does not matter. The important thing is that Russia and its population will need a President. Appropriate.

I have nothing (almost) against it being Putin. But not THIS Putin, but THAT ... Well, you understand, right?

Today’s Putin doesn’t look like a president who can pull Russia out of all the problems.

Probably worth explaining?

Here was a speech. Well, it’s not so badly staged, an ambush came out with a watch, but you must admit, this is not such a jamb. The important thing is NOT HOW, the important thing is what the president said.

But in fact, he did not say anything. Neither new nor useful. Yes, extended the "paid" non-working days. True, he did not explain who and where would take the money to arrange a day off for the country for a month.

Well, at the same time (a beautiful move, by the way, I appreciated) put the problem on the governors. In places it is more visible, closer to the people, here you are with the people and understand. Two governors do not be fools - they rushed to resign on their own, Sobyanin heeded the hints and canceled the pass.

I think in other regions where governors have meat testicles, concessions will begin. Because, excuse me, this 1941 reminds me. When the armies broke down and fled, as the headquarters were the first to drape. No, it was a matter of when the lieutenants and captains pulled out the situation, but now is not the right time to elect, say, people's mayors. Not Crimea with the "Russian spring". Wrong tasks are a bit worth it.

Not very somehow it all looks. They invented fines, threw taxes, punished the earth. And that is all. Further on the ground.

I foresee further flight of governors and mayors, because if people are smart, they will realize that in this situation they will still be suspended in one place. Either because the spread of the virus was not stopped, or because, fighting the virus, half of the companies in the region were killed.

In general, it does not look very good. The man who served as president of Russia for 20 years (well, he was the prime minister, but under which president) seems to give fateful orders aimed no less at the survival of the nation, but ... Somehow, he puts all the responsibility on others.

Moreover, I have already said, so I repeat: no support measures have been proposed. The adopted law “On Supporting Businesses” is designed in such a way that no one will receive the fact of this “assistance”, which is not so much. Well, with the exception of yourself you know whom ... Heroes of Labor of Russia Rotenbergs.

The situation is rocking. It is not known from which to pay a salary - there is no revenue, it is impossible to produce / render services, it is necessary to dismiss workers for salaries and to wait, it is not clear what. Oh yes, you can take a loan. Two is better. To definitely not go anywhere in the future. And then suddenly the business will survive?

And you cannot declare yourself bankrupt. Not the time.

Honestly - I didn’t understand why Putin needed the destruction of small and medium-sized businesses. Probably, they set this task. But what did not work out in 1998 and 2008, in 2020 it turns out not just, but very simple.

Where in a month thousands of employees of small enterprises that were ruined by then will go, Vladimir Vladimirovich is clearly not very interested. And they will have nowhere to go.

You don’t need to follow examples; personally, I have a lot of people around me, completely at a loss from what to live on this suddenly fallen month. An employer (as Putin said) is required to pay a salary. And the point.

Who will pay her seamstress in the studio? Shoe repairman? Auto mechanic? To the tire worker?

In general, everything was somehow thought out ... too in Russian. I will not begin to follow the example again. A trifle: the faucet-box in the mixer at the neighbor broke. They were looking for the whole community, well, in the next entrance, the peasant found a spare. Some strange, German. And nowhere to buy.

We return to the time of the 80s, when in every apartment there should be a supply of candles, light bulbs, crane boxes, switches?

And they are already gone, because there are no those who sell them. Well, those who bet, too. At the same time, enterprises must continue to pay loans, leases and taxes. This has not been canceled. Such is the concern for business.

In general, it turned out very peculiarly. We defended the “Russian world” in the Donbass, fought against fascism in Ukraine, against terrorism in Syria, and saved the population of Italy and the USA from the coronavirus.

But as soon as the question arose that the state should (yes, hell, it should !!!) protect its citizens, that’s all, the state began to merge. No, of course, governors and mayors are also a state, but I think we will also see their backs.

And, except for a bunch of prohibitive measures, I do not observe anything from the state. Nothing. No price controls that just rushed up, nothing like that. You begin to no longer understand, but to be completely confident that you were needed only to cut taxes from you.

And most of all, it’s touching not even the president’s self-isolation among the Valdai beauties, but his self-removal from work.

Announcing a vacation is not a job. This is shifting responsibility to those below. This is not the same Putin, honestly. That Putin walked and solved problems. Good or bad, he went to solve them. And this one ...

And this one, sorry, just transfers responsibility to the regional authorities. And it turns out a very funny situation: the president gives instructions on the introduction of all these strange self-insulating weekends with the due payments. Blaming all hemorrhoids on employers and regional authorities. It turns out that the president is good, and the governors and mayors who will decide on the introduction of quarantines and emergency situations, impose fines, and so on, are bad.

It would seem, why not introduce an emergency mode or quarantine at the worst?

Everything again comes down to money. Remember what Putin promised on March 25th.

“To support those who are on sick leave or have lost their jobs, they will establish a sick leave payment rate. Until the end of the year, these payments will be calculated on the basis of at least a minimum wage, unemployment benefits will increase to the minimum wage level - up to 12 rubles. "

So it all becomes more or less clear. Either there is no money (where then did they go?), Or the desire to pay for a banquet. Therefore, powers (and a headache to raise funds) are transferred to the heads of regions who are starting to quit, realizing what this threatens them with in the future.

And here she is, an old tale of a good king and bad boyars in the field. No? In general, it seems.

Meanwhile, doctors from the same regions are shouting for help, saying that they lack elementary remedies. I already wrote about this. But these remedies are sold / transferred to our "worst friend", that is, the United States. And the USA satellite of Italy.

Strange situation. It would seem that we must first of all take care of our citizens, but in reality? But in reality, somehow it doesn’t work out very well.

I repeat. I am not opposed to Vladimir Putin-2024 becoming president again. But so that it was the president of the model not in 2020, but in 2002.

I want to live well. No matter what.

Comments

[Mikhail m]

The president makes a retinue. And whoever stands in this place, there will immediately be those who want to lick deeper. Whatever the president does, it will be unprecedentedly wise. The media is in the thick of it. And Putin began to change since his portraits appeared in executive offices.

[depressant]

Hi, Second Pilot, hold on!
In general, dear colleagues, it’s sad. The world has become cruel. Here, for example, a man from the USA wrote to a reddit: he got sick with a coronavirus, left the hospital, does not breathe well, his lungs are crusted from the inside, they are stony, fibrosis, a bill of $ 100 thousand was sent from the hospital ...
And - our realities. I recall the speech of the president. So they made up, as if not Putin himself, but his talking doll. And intonation - as if saying goodbye. Yeltsin, saying goodbye, looked much livelier - in spite of everything he did not look like a political corpse. And what type of resuscitation awaits us? Cruel dictatorship? Heartless monarchy? I hope there will be no escape in a women's dress. Too much will humiliate me.

[Ilya-spb]

Want some fun in the morning?

Quarantine until April 30. Or a vacation. Call it what you want.

And on April 30, what have we got? Walpurgis Night!
Probably, Messir Woland will visit Moscow again and see how the local population has changed.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Ilya-spb

Quarantine until April 30. Or a vacation. Call it what you want.

And on April 30, what have we got? Walpurgis Night!

May holidays with barbecue in the country. Although barbecue can be banned due to the beginning of the fire hazard period, it will be possible to plant potatoes.

[_Sergei_]

Today I took out potatoes for germination. If the heat lasts a week, then I’ll immediately plant

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: _Sergey_

If the heat lasts a week, then I’ll immediately plant

Eh, Bekov's life ... they "have" us. but we are nekova! The choice did not become too big ... either we jail, or we ... for violating the "self-isolation" regime! ...

[BAI]

And who will harvest? Will not work for uncle?

[knn54]

If in the subject, then the MAIN trouble, for example, of Ukraine is that it "is not promising FATHER people."

[Chervonny]

Quote: depressant

The world has become cruel.

Dear Lyudmila Yakovlevna, the world has long become cruel. sanctions, embargoes, wars, coups, fakes, hatred - all these are realities not only today, but also yesterday, and unfortunately the realities of tomorrow.

[evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru]

Good day! My comment is, “downstairs” (payment for excessive tact)） If not too lazy - find it. The opinion of adequate and sensible members of the forum I cherish （undisguised flattery）

[Far B]

Whatever the president does, it will be unprecedentedly wise.

It is unlikely to succeed. No, who was in love with Putin - they will look at him with enamored eyes. For love is evil, you will love it and ... The rest, whose minds have the ability to think in love, have not been turned off, have taken so much from Pu and Co. during this March and early April that their mother does not grieve. In general, one gets the feeling that all this is a well-organized action. True, the author of the action, and indeed the purpose of the action, is still in fog.
Today I read in the vastness of the tyrnet that a certain rating agency, with reference, as usual, to unnamed but authoritative sources in the government, has information that this government itself has a forecast for the most crisis scenario. So, according to the most crisis scenario, the under-quarantine can be extended right up to September (for example, here: “The crisis scenario assumes the abolition of quarantine not earlier than September 2020, which will lead to a significant drop in demand - by 25% or more. Probably an even more noticeable decline in prices construction companies (by 20-30%) to maintain <...> the level of sales ", - quotes the content of the study on April 6 TASS.). God grant, as they say, that this agency will turn out to be another “hat” with its “authoritative source”, because God forbid such a “scenario” - until September, the economy will definitely go to hell.
And then another American agency made a fuss, adjusting the forecast for the drop in the level of our economy to more than five percent per year (in the previous forecast it was minus one percent). Onet, the Americans, in fact, argue that all the economies of the world will sag at the end of the year, but this is somehow little consolation.
As Popandopulo used to say: "Surrenders to mine, we are on the eve of a grandiose nix" ...
Threat. And Putin’s model of any year is unnecessary, as for me. We need someone who turns the country to socialism. IMHO.

[Uncle lee]

Hiccups, hiccups, go to Fedota,
From Fedot to Jacob,
From Jacob to everyone
And from everyone
And you leave hiccups from Fedot and from Jacob,
To my own swamps.
Bow to you mud
In a deep bog.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Cartoon "Last year's snow was falling ...":
-... Who is the ultimate king here? Anyone? !! Well, I'll be the first! ... ")))

[Chervonny]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Cartoon "Last year's snow was falling ...":
-... Who is the ultimate king here? Anyone? !! Well, I'll be the first! ... ")))

will not work, the queue is already busy. in today's reality, the authorities during the transfer of higher power, and in reality during the transfer of power and property to the "second generation" (most dignitaries of power and oligarchs are no longer young) do not need not only strong uncontrollable elements, but also elements that, under certain conditions may become out of control.

[Far B]

I wonder what 10000 citizens do that have food supplies for a week for a month or even less?

10000? It seems you have lost a toe somewhere. Or even two.
I do not know what to do. Plant potatoes. To the will, in the pampas to blame, where the bananas grow ... Ah, damn it, the borders are closed. I see two options for the development of the situation - either the people will change something from below, or the authorities will scratch the poppy and begin to change it from above. A third is not given, in such a suspended state as now, we certainly will not stay.

[Far B]

Why are you asking me what is easier for the president and what is not? We do not drink on Saturdays, he does not consult with me. Perhaps in vain, I would advise him

[Fan-fan]

He must be asked what people should live on. I have a piecework salary, no customers, no money. And how do I feed my family? And there are many like me. And what do we do? To take pitchfork?

[YOUR]

It was always not the authorities' desire to tell the truth that surprised me. And now the country is in a difficult situation. They themselves introduced self-isolation, for some reason, quarantine or emergency did not dare.
Hundreds of hospitals have been freed from treated patients. They are empty. Why? Wacky precaution or preparation for something more global and terrible? A bunch of questions.
Answer from Peskov, get ready for even worse.
And where is the President, and he is locked up and every day they do tests for him. Hmm somehow ambiguously happened. This type of sand reassured the people.
And then there is his law of 01.04.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX on the Federal Security Service permitting the use of military equipment and weapons without regard to the damage caused. What is this for? Who needs a warning?
I transferred my powers to the governors, measures ..... do what you want, enter an emergency, cancel, enter fines, I'm sick.
A strange feeling.
Post videos from Italy where the devil knows what’s going on. People are trying to somehow support each other, have fun, from the USA the same thing and we have a gloomy feeling of loneliness. Silence. The windows overlook the school, sometimes visited dreams that will become quiet, just buzz when the holidays begin. Now he’s ready to run and scream there. Silence crushes.
A relative from Krasnodar called today, she says. Measures introduced draconian, fines prohibitive. You can go out into the street only if you have a pass, in order to get you need to register in public services. We tried to get it through the Internet, the queue is scheduled for 2 years. They also advised you to go in person. They came, there is a crowd of several thousand people. This is called quarantine. They themselves create the conditions for distribution.

[Krasnodar]

More about Krasnodar is possible? )) I visited the bank on Friday, in the city center, no one slowed down

[YOUR]

No problem https://www.kuban.kp.ru/daily/27112/4189648/
I can still throw how people are being fined about what is written in the Krasnodar newspapers. After talking with a relative, I rushed to look on the network, dug up decently.

[Krasnodar]

Thanks - I'll see

[YOUR]

I hope you do not think that my sick imagination has broken out. Here is more information - https://ria.ru/20200402/1569495870.html

[Krasnodar]

Quote: YOUR

I hope you do not think that my sick imagination has broken out. Here is more information - https://ria.ru/20200402/1569495870.html

Ok, thanks - I’ll be visiting the bank in the hypermarket building

[Mikhail m]

Looked at the link.
"The self-control detachments that work on the streets of the cities and villages of the Kuban include 3318 police officers, Cossacks, representatives of local government bodies and social activists."
What are the Cossacks, representatives of local government and public figures doing on the streets? Do they have any legal status? I can definitely ask on the same grounds why they do not comply with quarantine. And require a police officer to write them a fine.

[Krasnodar]

Since the time of Tkachev they have a legal status, help the police, get paid)). Once, according to the stories of Krasnodar residents, these Cossacks helped reduce street crime in the city

[New Year day]

Quote: Krasnodar

these Cossacks helped reduce street crime in the city

Quote: Krasnodar

according to the stories of Krasnodar

so sit in your Krasnodar, do not export them to us

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Silvestr

so sit in your Krasnodar, do not export them to us

So I did not offer them to anyone, like Are you afraid of additional forces on the side of the Russian Guard? )))

[Revival]

No, it’s more likely that the mummers clowns are definitely not needed

[New Year day]

Quote: Mikhail M

What are the Cossacks, representatives of local government and public figures doing on the streets?

good question! And what did they always do in the settlement of Ilyich, when they drove off traveling to the Crimea? What do they do at the entrance to the Crimean bridge, repeating the shmon?
What do they do in Yalta, protecting the embankment from people?
Maybe they don’t want to work?

[New Year day]

Quote: Mikhail M

Do they have any legal status?

loafers their status. When the Krasnodar Territory works in the fields, gardens and resorts, crowds of Cossacks hang around the country, depicting rescuers

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Silvestr

loafers their status. When the Krasnodar Territory works in the fields, gardens and resorts, crowds of Cossacks hang around the country, depicting rescuers

So I live in Krasnodar and it’s neither cold nor hot from them - on the contrary, they add some local flavor to the city ... and what they didn’t please Muscovites with is not clear And in general - you live yourself - let others live

[Overlock]

Quote: YOUR

from Krasnodar today called, tells. Measures introduced draconian, fines prohibitive. You can go out into the street only if you have a pass, in order to get you need to register in public services. They tried to get through the Internet, the queue is scheduled for 2 years.

sample of a DUFT quarantine solution. In response, a sharp negative in the direction of power.

[BAI]

Hundreds of hospitals have been freed from treated patients. They are empty. Why?

Coronovirus is transmitted through sewers. 30% of hospitals (according to the Accounts Chamber) have sewage problems, 879 do not have sewage at all. 21 century. 879 hospitals do not have sewers.

[New Year day]

Quote: BAI

30% of hospitals (according to the Accounting Chamber) have problems with sewage

what about ventilation in hospitals

[ycuce234-san]

On average, the incubation period of COVID-19 lasts 5,1 days, and symptoms appear within 11,5 days - "monthly holidays" are approximately 6 incubation periods and 3 periods of illness / carrier. This is almost certainly enough to bring down the scale of infection, since infected people get sick and recover, mostly alone, and the virus in the external environment is stable for several days. It is more important to take measures in the future and strengthen disease control, allocate money for basic research in necessary areas and modernize the medical industry.

[Bshkaus]

And then there is his law dated 01.04.2020 on the FSO permission to use military equipment and weapons without regard to the damage caused. What is this for?

This is to ensure that the Romanian secretariat lasted in battles with the regular army of Romania for about a day ...
The latter (army), we must pay tribute to the fact that she took on the dirty work and asked the civilian population not to go pointlessly under the bullets.
What happened next, everyone knows ...

[Overlock]

Quote: Dalny V

I see two options for the development of the situation - either the people will begin to change something from below, or the authorities will scratch the poppy and begin to change it from above.

The people will not be able to change anything for a reason: they are excommunicated from decision-making
The authorities scratch their head, only the vertical was built on a completely different principle, the result is negative.
There is a situation in Lenin:
“For the revolution, it is not enough that the lower classes do not want to live as before. It also requires that the tops could not manage and manage, as before. ”

[Cyrus]

There was nothing to wipe Socialism, but it won’t work back, but in general I began to notice how brave the mice became, how impudent ...

[Chervonny]

Quote: Cyrus

return it will not work

oh is it? as the saying goes: "don't say hop until you jump over."
to get out of the political and economic crisis, we have only one way, the way to return to the Soviet system! there is no other way.

[Svarog]

Quote: Dalny V

Threat. And Putin’s model of any year is unnecessary, as for me. We need someone who turns the country to socialism. IMHO.

I completely agree. Who cares if he acts as a capitalist ..

[Fan-fan]

And which one is the capitalist? He is a former communist. He gave the oath to protect the people, twice as much - once in the KGB, and then several times he swore by the president on the Constitution. And now this Constitution is torn in the tail and in the mane.

[Dwellernet]

He is not a capitalist. He is the leader of the Papuans, who, using the stupidity of the tribe, sells resources for glass beads. And the fewer Papuans left in the tribe, the more bananas he will be able to drive into the metropolis. And at the same time he thinks that having sold his homeland, he will leave for the metropolis, where he will live happily, ringing with these beads. He also has a shaman who rides in an expensive palanquin and fumigates the main village from evil spirits.

[Alex Nevs]

Forget. For now. Socialism? Not now. Lenin already wrote, read. Now Lenin - a quote ".... old grandfather ...." So ..... To "get out" and "catch up" only capitalism, with its rigid form. Or Stalin with the gulag. ALL!!! There is nothing else.

[Overlock]

Quote: Dalny V

No, who was in love with Putin - they will look at him with enamored eyes.

the number has fallen. Putin’s electorate - pensioners, in whom everything has worsened, the state employee - they have everything to do, the power block - so far. But time is running out. everything flows, everything changes.

Quote: Dalny V

.... to a significant drop in demand - by 25% or more.

in the current situation, by June 1, unemployed in Moscow + 1 million, the country + 8-9 million. The further, the more
Coronovirus does its job ...

Quote: Dalny V

"Surrender to mine, sho we are on the eve of a grandiose nix" ...

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Dalny V

who was in love with Putin-and they will look at him with enamored eyes.

[Matroskin]

Quote: Dalny V

We need someone who turns the country to socialism.

Michael, I wonder how you see it? Will a good uncle come and turn in the right direction? This does not happen. The state is the power of the ruling class. That's when people will feel really bad and they will begin to organize themselves in trade unions, councils, create mutual assistance cash desks (at least among relatives and friends), then there will be reasons for the transition to socialism. The Soviet Union is the power of the SOVIETS, and not some president-official. For many, the phrase Soviet Union is some kind of white noise. I repeat the Union of TIPS. Now, people are not able to solve the problem of the entrance, which means they are not ready to take responsibility on themselves and are waiting for a good uncle.

[Sergej1972]

But there really was no Soviet power, except for a short period at the end of perestroika. There was the power of the party and the executive branch, subordinate to the party leadership.

[Matroskin]

Sergey, I agree, was not and therefore the Union was doomed. But you are mistaken, the power of the Soviets, nevertheless, was not at the end of perestroika, for starters you can find https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5% D1% 82% D1% 8B
If you carefully read the Stalinist Constitution of 1936, it is easy to notice that the party appears there only once in the 125th article, this is an article about public organizations. It said that the party is the core of public organizations. Not the leading force of the country and society, which it became in the Brezhnev Constitution, but only the core of the social strata.
It was after Stalin’s death that the party nomenclature squared its shoulders, elitized, and led the Union to collapse (paradox, direct democracy was kept only by the powerful authority of the leader. Although, how then was this new device of society kept afloat, even for two generations, so that people grow up with new consciousness and being? Again, the Constitution of 36g did not last long, democracy is harmful in the war. So it turns out ... there was not enough time and effort). As now, in these conditions, the transition to socialism and direct democracy will be possible, no one knows (careerists, skins and hucksters do not go anywhere, and Stalin’s methods, in our time, will not be accepted by society. 37 years is precisely the result of social life: hard life, bad medicine, hunger riots, war, revolution, war, revolution, war again, banditry How much could anyone see from 1905 to 1920, for example, the value of life? You can read workers' letters about what to do with the enemies of the people. whether a 30-year-old man born in 1890 per person Ages 1990?). But this is not a utopia. This will happen as a result of the historical process and maybe in 100 years, or maybe in 10. Look out the window

[Altona]

Quote: Dalny V

Threat. And Putin’s model of any year is unnecessary, as for me.

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If we talk about medicine in an adult way, and not like now, then in the head of state .... However, read the definition of "sociopath" and everything will fall into place.

[nekromonger]

I agree about putena, but depending on which socialism, if it’s Swedish, then with two hands I am for, but if it’s a scoop ...

[Finches]

It was ordered to sit at home! Sit down! In 1654, when the plague came to Moscow, Russia reunited exactly with Ukraine ... An interesting coincidence! Tsar-father Alexei Mikhailovich did not particularly panic: he unhooked the city with troops, closed cardons, burned plague houses and courtyards with all the scrub, mail, even the diplomatic one was opened - the original was rewritten and burned, a copy went to the addressee ... Some malacholny went into quarantine days to walk a doggie - a seat on a count! Europe even then pointed to the inadmissibility of such harsh measures! Then the tsar-father generally closed the borders with England, where the plague began to spread, he broke off all relations from the word altogether - Europe began to make fun of the "ryusky barbarian" - a total of 6 dead people in Moscow and 000% of the population of the entire "enlightened" "London! We have for the entire period of the epidemic, and their mortality rate up to 40 per week reached ... The same I suppose in our gateways the tsar-father was scolded, they say the merchants go broke, there is nowhere to get the crane-axle ... The capital was brought from our Crimea to everyone give a damn! Especially the dead - they had all the problems solved at once and no overseas crane axles were needed anymore!

[Ilya-spb]

Interesting fact!

[basmach]

Well, it is you, Zyablintsev, with an army pension, you can sit at home. And the majority do not have it, but they need to eat, pay for utilities, loans, etc. taxes. And with what, can you share ?. No? Then it is better to be silent with your eternal justification for power in general and GDP in particular. The authorities brought the situation to the point when it faces a choice - hunger riots or a massive epidemic with subsequent riots with its "skillful" actions. withdraws and prepares to defend itself in all possible ways. Moreover, this was decided not on April 1, but much earlier, with the creation of the National Guard.

[YOUR]

Venezuela, which we help, which is exhausted from oppression, and so on.

For example, here are some of the support measures that Venezuela provides to its citizens - a country that is not in the best economic position:

The state will take on the wages of all government employees, employees of state enterprises and private enterprises (!) Over the next 6 months to ensure that they can stay at home.

A presidential decree prohibits the dismissal of employees until December 31 of the current year.

It is forbidden to charge rent for the next 6 months.

It is forbidden to charge installments and interest on any type of financing.

Payment for electricity, water and gas is suspended for an indefinite period.

7 million families will receive a basic food basket every 15 days during the state of emergency.

What prevents us from introducing such clear and effective measures in our country? Plus, every citizen of Russia should receive material support.

Source: https://www.mk.ru/social/2020/04/05/povalnoe-obnishhanie-rossiyan-mozhet-stat-strashnee-koronavirusa.html

[Revival]

Here on such comments defenders shut up and are silent like dead fish.
Aw! Vadim237, the tadpole and the rest, ay! What do you have there? Silence ... expected

[Finches]

If you’re so smart, why aren’t you running for president? By the way, I’m still working ... Currently remotely

[YOUR]

Grudinin tried, still bones are gnawing

[Finches]

Which red oligarch? I believed him as myself ... He reminds me of Trotsky somehow!

[basmach]

Those. You yourself are Trotsky, judging by your phrase.

[basmach]

HA is not to be rude, rudeness is the first sign of limitation. And to me, unlike you, remotely no matter how. Well, you can’t carry out commissioning of instrumentation and automation equipment remotely .. Or on vacation at your own expense (and teeth on the shelf) - or at random (in the hope that I will not get sick, but if I get sick, I’ll recover and do not grunt). And I’m not going to the presidency, because I’m just smart. and not thieving. In modern times, such people are not honored. And by the way, your nickname is what. Well I wrote about retirement, as a basic income. But I spoke yesterday with a bro (trucker), I work on a shift for 15 days. It is already ending, but he only did ONE flight, and before, he did 4. And he has a question, but he has a pension, he doesn’t have any.

[Finches]

You see, all smart and non-thieving people are sitting at home and do not go to power, but they demand justice from the government! And who will do it - if in the power of duraki and corruption alone? No - I’m not Trotsky, but I can’t understand why Grudinin so fascinated you? Only by the fact that he is not so tattered with guano as Zyuganov. And it's nice to say - everyone can! I can carry nonsense about Russian injustice for 24 hours and what, will it disappear from my boltology somewhere? No!
As for retirement - here, if you use the words of one song - I served her in full Ata-bata! The situation is difficult, I do not argue. Especially for small private business ... But enterprises of a continuous cycle are working, schools and universities (in reduced staff), but teachers are working, hospitals are working, grocery stores are working, builders are all working, the army, the National Guard, etc. serve, local officials ... If you count, I think, together with pennies - 70 percent, if not more, countries receive money! Farmers, servicing equipment and preparing for sowing! Fishermen at sea, gas and oil workers on duty! There is no need to make a tragedy of a universal scale out of nothing ... If such measures are taken by the state, then there is a reason! I specifically cited an example from history through the prism of comparison with "enlightened" Europe ... And everything is useless!

[Revival]

And what about the support prism in Germany, USA, of this example:
"For example, here are some of the support measures that Venezuela provides to its citizens, a country that is not in the best economic situation:

The state will take on the wages of all government employees, employees of state enterprises and private enterprises (!) Over the next 6 months to ensure that they can stay at home.

A presidential decree prohibits the dismissal of employees until December 31 of the current year.

It is forbidden to charge rent for the next 6 months.

It is forbidden to charge installments and interest on any type of financing.

Payment for electricity, water and gas is suspended for an indefinite period.

7 million families will receive a basic food basket every 15 days during the state of emergency.
What prevents us from introducing such clear and effective measures in our country? Plus, every citizen of Russia should receive material support.

[_Sergei_]

We live normally. Getting ready for sowing. And here once Skomorokhov opened his eyes, it turns out everything is bad and someone is stopping us from picking up a shovel.

[Overlock]

Quote: _Sergey_

We live normally. Getting ready for sowing.

YOU speak for the local level or in the whole country?
So the Ministry of Agriculture proposed to reset duties on the import of agricultural products and products to Russia. What is it for? Did their agricultural producers ask themselves to be killed or is there something wrong with the food in the country?

[depressant]

There are no seeds in the country, seeds for large-scale crops! When Matvienko found out about this, she made square-nested eyes and burst into an angry speech: "How can there be no seeds?" For so many years, Madame participated in governing the country and did not know that seed production in the country was ruined in the bud, like the accompanying research organizations. And then - viral cordons, I had to change shoes on the go. Lord, who is in power ...

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Don’t read with a shovel, right? Just try without a shovel. Maybe it will.

[Overlock]

Quote: 30 vis

Now they will try to rock the situation in the country.

Who is rocking her? Virus, inaction of the authorities or vice versa, its stupidity? Sebastopol’s self-blockade strengthens power?

[Overlock]

Quote: Finches

It is ordered to sit at home! Sit down

so they sat not in high-rise buildings, but in their courtyards where food was running, supplies were lying and money was not needed for this.
Now the bulk of the population lives in the city, and there pigs do not run, cows do not moo, and in stores they demand for all the money

[Revival]

Yes, he just trolls pretending to be the appropriate angle at the square

[Moon]

Quote: Finches

Then the tsar-father generally closed the borders with England, where the plague began to spread, he broke off all relations from the word altogether - Europe began to make fun of the "ryusky barbarian" - a total of 6 dead people in Moscow and 000% of the population of the entire "enlightened" "London! We have for the entire period of the epidemic, and their mortality rate reached 40 per week.

again stamps about Russia and Europe.
Yes, they didn’t wash

The son of Macarius III, Pavel Aleppo, reported about 480 thousand deaths from the pestilence in Moscow, but this figure is clearly overstated. W. Prido reported that in Moscow from the plague "died and was buried, according to registration, more than 200 thousand, not counting several thousand bodies that did not find another grave, like in the intestines of dogs and pigs." Johann de Rhodes reported more than 200 thousand dead in Moscow and around it. Baron A. Meyerberg reported about 70 thousand dead. In the manuscript mentioned by L. F. Zmeev, “About the Plague that Was in Russia and Especially in Kazan in 7162”, 400 thousand dead are mentioned.
The historian E. Zvyagintsev wrote that "there were up to 1654 thousand people who died from the plague of 150 in Moscow, that is, more than half of the total number of Muscovites." Brickner suggested that more than half of the capital’s population died. According to Vysotsky’s estimates, 6 people died, and according to F. A. Derbek, 095 6. Alexander speaks of 197 dead, and calls the figures of several hundred thousand dead unrealistic, since, in his opinion, the population of Moscow was no more than 6 thousand people [.
The main source of victims in Moscow, a report by Kuzma Moshnin on December 17, 1654, indicates a high mortality rate in the capital

as we see, we take convenient numbers.
A London in 100 thousand victims.
Moscow-200 thousand population
London (the plague during which approximately 100 people died, 000% of the population of London.) -20 thousand population
And in London 100 thousand I believe more. And domestic ones are very different. And if you take the average, the figures are terrifying.
And if you also read about the plague itself, the hair stand on end ..
I don’t understand how it can be used in an information war?
The plague demographically strongly crippled Russia - and here they boast that they say it’s better than in London ..
Tsar the priest was just lucky to be at the military, the war was on.
And so they died that to know that the mob.
And they treated only with the military.
In general, the picture is terrible. Once again, I don’t understand how it can be exposed as my own superiority?

[Operator]

In the 17th century, the English toad tortured that the then population of London lived in high-rise dugouts with street sewers and, therefore, died of any epidemic like flies, and the population of Moscow lived in urban family estates with separate latrines that allowed localizing the foci of infection.

"Learn materiel" (C)

[Finches]

There is no superiority - but a historical fact! You can say anything you like, but the moral figures are the best historical evidence. And it is precisely the numbers - and not the drawn conventions - that are the proof in history! This, you know, your comment recalls - the justification of France - it had the strongest army in Europe, but capitulated after 40 days, and in Russia, not a Russian soldier won, and Germany reached Moscow so far ... They advised you correctly - learn the materiel!

[Chervonny]

Quote: Finches

Some kind of malacholny quarantineed dog came out for a walk - with his seat on the stake!

Now it would be so, right? Zyablitsov went to the store for bread, and his DAC police, yeah Zyablitsev violate quarantine, count it! I do not insult, it’s just sarcasm. agree that such measures do not contribute to improving the image of power. She, the authorities, can’t improve her face in the eyes of Russian citizens. and about the epidemic, so we have more people die from flu and turbulence.

[Finches]

So I don’t understand - your problem is what - the quarantine is ordered to pay the employer - this is exactly what the GDP said - my employer pays for my quarantine! If your does not pay-GDP then what does it have to do with?

[Revival]

And control over whom? Who built the system where the employer calmly lays down the words from the screen?

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Mikhail M

The president makes a retinue.

the chief's job is to select responsible people and monitor the execution of orders. Portraits of Stalin also hung everywhere .. The story of the conversation between Joseph and Vasily Stalin - "Do you think you are Stalin? Joseph Vissarionovich asks, -" Or am I Stalin? "," No, he is Stalin "and points to his own portrait.

[Overlock]

Quote: Mikhail M

The president makes a retinue. And whoever stands in this place, there will immediately be those who want to lick deeper.

This is where the role of personality arises!
“I had two paths: First: to put friends and relatives on the Forbes lists, while leaving my people on bare ground. Second: it is to serve your people and bring the country to the top ten best countries in the world. I chose the second ... "First Prime Minister of the Republic of Singapore Lee Kuan Yu

[depressant]

Overlock, well, made me excited! )) I began to read the quote - really? - did Putin really have such thoughts?!? And then I read: Lee Kuan Yu.

[Servisinzhener]

The retinue makes a bad ruler. Stalin and Ivan 4 took a different approach, and very successfully.

[Chervonny]

Quote: Mikhail M

The president makes a retinue.

who picks up a retinue? by chance not the president?

[apro]

Elections are needed to legitimize power. And power is taken by force ... and how not to change Putin, you will get Putin anyway. The system puts forward those who will defend their interests. And the interests of the population, insofar as ... the population is not a system.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: apro

interests of the population as far as ... the population is not a system.

population is a product of the information field. The opinion of the population is the opinion of one person. Averaged. Today it is a consumer. Social influence is negligible

Quote: apro

the system puts forward those who will defend their interests.

the system today is agents of influence, intergrown with power, with banks, with mineral resources .. However, power, banks and mineral resources are not a homogeneous structure, it is full of contradictions, Putin allows them to live, everyone. And Bolivar cannot stand two Someone will shoot first. The only one who could stand in the interests of the people is a military man. IMHO

[Fan-fan]

Grudinin is not a military man, but look at the YouTube video about his state farm, you will immediately understand how much he did for the people and his state farm looks just excellent against the background of all of Russia. Therefore, the authorities slandered him, since the comparison of life on his state farm and life in Russia is not in favor of the authorities. Because people can ask the authorities: "Why was Grudinin able to provide a decent life for people in his state farm, but the government in Russia cannot do the same?"

[Chervonny]

the current system cannot exist without redistributing resources in the interests of a certain group of individuals. any white (or at least a white speck) crow causes an attack of insane hatred. and if it is also a representative of a system with different views, as an example with pro-Soviet views, then the mind generally refuses the system.

[Valery Valery]

Another stuffing of lies and filth.

[Igor K]

Justify or do not you pay for it?

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Valery Valery

Another stuffing of lies and filth.

Truth is never beautiful They always killed for her, not so strangers

[AUL]

Well, when they begin to cling to their surname - therefore, there are no other arguments! And to say something is ordered ...

[Ivan Kolodin]

It is a pity that only one minus can be sculpted ....

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I do not understand you and your cons, is it so important for you? Well, they sent a man inwardly ... And that’s it. No, you want to spread it all over the world ... Do you know what it is called among adequate people? Ivan Kolodin is called.

[Pessimist22]

The situation is suitable, a lot of people on the street, a small business is ruined, it remains to unite, unite and set the task.

[Pessimist22]

The task of national importance.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

And then typhoid (coronavirus) ... Yes, and there is no leader, who will stand on the armored car?

[AUL]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

who will stand on the armored car?

Grandpa Zyu will not fit ...

[Chervonny]

Quote from AUL

Grandpa Zyu will not fit ...

Malentsov Stepan Sergeevich will be able and Rashkin Valery Fedorovich will also be able.

[Chervonny]

so Lenin in February 1917 was not a well-known politician, and Putin in 1999 was known only to a narrow circle of people.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Pessimist22

to unite

unite, from the word one. And you do it - a merger
Okay, what will we promise? take away to distribute? In order to rally many commanders where to take frames?

Quote: Pessimist22

to set a task.

this is the most interesting! revolution? or evolution? Evolution means a progressive tax, the ability to recall a deputy online, a ban on real estate with accounts, and the dependence of a deputy’s salary on the regional average ... A revolution is the execution of the White House, again .... what is better ???

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Pessimist22

The situation is suitable, a lot of people on the street, a small business is ruined, it remains to unite, unite and set the task.

Quote: Pessimist22

The task of national importance.

Well yes. In Ukraine, in 2014, combined. Economy rushing uphill, business in gold, people in chocolate. Does the experience of neighbors teach anything? The mess in Russia and its collapse is a task of national importance for the United States and its European satellites.

[AUL]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Quote: Pessimist22

The situation is suitable, a lot of people on the street, a small business is ruined, it remains to unite, unite and set the task.

Quote: Pessimist22

The task of national importance.

Well yes. In Ukraine, in 2014, combined. Economy rushing uphill, business in gold, people in chocolate. Does the experience of neighbors teach anything? The mess in Russia and its collapse is a task of national importance for the United States and its European satellites.

You know, by and large I’m deeply onWedspit, as in Ukraine! I live in Russia, and I am much more worried about the problems of MY country. Here in 2014 it was NOT merged. And what, "The economy rushes uphill, business in gold, people in chocolate."?

[Fan-fan]

By the way, trolls lie about Ukraine. On the Internet there is information that the economic growth rate of Ukraine is higher than our Russian. Lied.

[16329]

Of course, of course, only traitors of the Russian people, when abandoning their own National Identity, culture and statehood, can have high rates of economic growth

[Overlock]

Quote: Nyrobsky

The mess in Russia and its collapse is a task of national importance for the United States and its European satellites.

so why did Medvedev and now Putin do it? There is a war with the virus on the territory of the country, and the commander-in-chief is "on your own! Where is the coordination? Do you think that Skvortsova will rule everything? I don't think so. Governors?"

[Chervonny]

Quote: Overlock

so why was it performed by Medvedev, and now Putin?

everything is very simple - they are liberals

[16329]

Putin especially ruined Russia in Dagestan, Chechnya, Ossetia and Abkhazia, Crimea, Donbass and Syria
It got to the point that Russia turned from a failed State 90s into a normal dynamic state, where digitalization, for example, of the banking system is better than in Europe, etc.
Would stop writing any nonsense

[16329]

Part of the small business will survive the situation, part will turn into wage earners, just
Does everyone want to reduce the number of builders, janitors and cleaners from neighboring countries or not?

[Igor K]

I completely agree with the article, emergency mode and emergency mode are not introduced since other tasks than solving problems.

[kepmor]

yeah, they have one problem ... how else can they survive for ten years ...
and Che country ... and Che people ... survive somehow with God's help ...

[depressant]

We won’t survive, kepmor, we won’t survive ... I estimated cash and food supplies - I won’t survive. The neighbors are the same. And what - to die out whole entrances? Where are our masks, ventilation again? Sold in the USA? The people on one of the related topics, screaming, shouted: in three shifts the plant works by stamping masks. The plant operates in three shifts, stamping mechanical ventilation - we will survive if all this remains in the country and immediately resume work. But - it will not remain, it will be sold abroad, someone will fill their pockets, and we won’t go to work, because someone will fill their pockets !!! ...
And I sparkled over the whole year, to hoarseness and illness: Putin, I voted for you, you are at your post thanks to me, so work as I need, and not your close circle! And the list represented what I needed. And measures. Silence is my answer. Well, well ... People will take to the streets, I will change myself, I will come out, excuse me, President.

[kepmor]

it's not you who should ask for forgiveness from him ... but he is from you and all the people ...
but just do not wait for this action from him ... his conscience left to see ... did not cuddle the royal blessings ...

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: kepmor

left his sight to see ... did not bring together royal goods ...

First, upbringing in the gateway, which the guarantor himself spoke about, but the gateway is not rich in conscience, then the KGB, where there were no especially conscientious KGBs, then at the errands of the dog, where the conscientious did not survive by default. What conscience? What are you speaking about? Her guarantor is still in kindergarten, waved at a glass of compote.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: depressant

And I sparkled over the whole year, to hoarseness and illness: Putin, I voted for you, you are at your post thanks to me, so work as I need, and not your close circle!

Hysteria does not lead to anything good ... So what you need to choose. Or do you love your country! Or rush about like neighboring Ukraine .. Now the situation in Russia resembles Ukraine, the time of the fall of Yanukovych. Ukraine anticipated!

[Overlock]

Quote: 30 vis

Or do you love your country! Or rush about like neighboring Ukraine ..

you are just like Volodin! -. "No Putin, no Russia." And Russia is more than 11 centuries old and it will be after Putin. You have created an idol for yourself and now you are tormented.

Quote: 30 vis

Now the situation in Russia resembles Ukraine, the time of the fall of Yanukovych.

so the mistakes of both are the same: do not spit on the people, do not feed the thieves, develop the country, and not your relatives

[Alf]

Quote: 30 vis

Now the situation in Russia resembles Ukraine, the time of the fall of Yanukovych. Ukraine anticipated!

Again the same thing. You have forgotten Syria. Change the training manual.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: 30 vis

Now the situation in Russia resembles Ukraine, the time of the fall of Yanukovych. Ukraine anticipated!

Indeed? That's a "surprise"! Strange, who would have thought ?!
But after all, many still only a year or two ago, when they were warned that the country was moving towards unrest or revolution, they categorically did not even want to hear about it. And now you just have to fully realize who personally (a hint - someone of a megalactic scale, the author of many brilliant HPPs), and led the country to this "success". Not alone, of course, but with the help of his entourage, but at the head of the vertical he built, he is himself and is unlikely in this case, will be able to shift responsibility onto someone.

PS Citizens of Utreota and do not say now that you were not warned. All in the end, as has long been the case, decide on the streets of big cities.

[Svarog]

Quote: kepmor

yeah, they have one problem ... how else can they survive for ten years ...

For 10 years they’ll have known half the country ..

[kepmor]

this grandmother said for two more ...
I think that most of this self-isolation with empty wallets and even without prospects will come out with a different worldview ...

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: kepmor

yeah, they have one problem ... how else can they survive for ten years ...
and Che country ... and Che people ... survive somehow with God's help ...

As the saying goes:
"Although our locomotive does not pull, but how piercing is the whistle!"

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Igor K

Emergency and emergency are not entered since other tasks than solving problems.

the problem is that by law in the event of an emergency or quarantine, payments are made to the affected population. With self-isolation, no.

[Overlock]

Quote: aybolyt678

payments are being made to the affected population.

[Fan-fan]

Yes, there is money in the treasury, even if they don’t lie. Recently, from each iron, all our ears have buzzed that for 10 years the country will have enough reserves in the welfare fund. And as the time came to give us some money, it became so pathetic, therefore he is cunning with these self-isolation. And by the way, is he to blame, who brought down oil prices? Who gave Novak the command to disrupt negotiations with OPEC? Decided to punish the Americans? And he punished himself, including us.

[New Year day]

Quote: Fan-Fan

And he punished himself, including us.

"not so sat down" EBN: us, but not ourselves

[depressant]

And I, colleagues, will tell you why the payments for the people were squeezed. Because the Central Bank has already sold Sberbank to the state for 2 trillion rubles, taken from the very same National Welfare Fund, to help from which the people rolled their lips. Already all the documents for sale have been drawn up, the deal was concluded while we were breaking spears on amendments. With the carrying value of Sberbank totaling 5 billion rubles according to the report for 72,9 (we must assume that the same value was in 2018). Now the toad is strangling near-power, although there are still trillions in the Fund - there is less left to do by yourself, but then this people is still fussing, demanding.

Question: why was it sold at market value, not book value?
1. Because otherwise the shares of Sberbank on the stock exchange will fall in value. And British and American shareholders have a 45,41% stake in Sberbank - how can you offend respected people! This is not some Russian people there. Therefore, in the next three years, $ 17,5 billion will be allocated to the gentlemen to pay dividends. A virus, not a virus - they will direct! Do you think Sberbank is purely Russian?
2. Nabiullina’s puncture in activity, miscalculated (accidentally, intentionally, by incompetence) hundreds of billions of rubles (700) and sold Sber to cover the Central Bank’s loss. Putin, a good soul, rescued a girlfriend, falling off her two and a half trillion. And do not worry, we are told that Nabiullin will cover the loss, and the rest of the money will be returned to the budget. Yes, the only difference is that she received 2, 5 trillion at once, and the remainder from covering the shortage, that is, 1,8 trillion will be returned in tranches for three years. And during this time it may cover some shortage of this money, or we will die out. Like a donkey and a padish.
So, colleagues, do not count on handouts from the NWF, he is not our property, there is a queue for cutting - the one that shouts "Not enough by ourselves!" And if something from the industry works well for us, it is a factory for the production of billionaires, which is activated during a crisis.

[Thrifty]

Roman, asking a question, what’s called a rib, you didn’t give an answer to it? Who will change the cuckoo to hawk, that is, the old president to the new? And, the catch is that in our political arena there is no adequate situation that can solve the main thing - to take care of the country's economy! There are a bunch of show-show-goers, there are flocks of near-politicians, but there is no SPECIALIST from the economy! And, everything is elementary - the power of such people, sorry for the pun, does not allow power! In order for the people not to want to demand early re-election of the President of Russia, knowing that there are people who are ABLE to change the economic situation for the better, to ensure real economic growth. Therefore, we can talk about changing the leader of the country, but so far there is no one to change it for, so that inadvertently Judas does not appear in power. He didn’t begin to slander the country to pieces, he did not start the Civil War!

[Thrifty]

I perfectly understood what I wrote! Change of linen, that is, a leader is necessary for the country, but SPECIALISTS from the economy will not allow power to come! So do you understand? ??

[Overlock]

Quote: Thrifty

I perfectly understood what I wrote! Change of linen, that is, a leader is necessary for the country, but SPECIALISTS from the economy will not allow power to come! So do you understand? ??

It will become clear when it will be too late. There was no need to cultivate relatives. and healthy opposition, healthy nationally interested cadres, not tumbleweed. I’ve walked the mower more than once in the clearing, mowed it all, and there’s no personnel, only slime dishes

[Svarog]

Quote: Thrifty

Therefore, we can talk about changing the leader of the country, but so far there is no one to change it for, so that inadvertently Judas does not appear in power. He didn’t begin to slander the country to pieces, he did not start the Civil War!

Firstly, the new president must be a socialist .. and secondly Platoshkin is not very bad.

[kepmor]

yes it’s not bad ...
it’s one thing to scratch your tongue in YouTube, another thing to plow on the ground ...
he was even sucked in the elections to the Duma with his "red snot in the union" ... a la humpbacked number 2 ...

[Fan-fan]

At least he scratches his tongue correctly and, most importantly, speaks clear and simple things. And these, who for 20 years have already only mumbled and mumbled, promise and promise, and ask to enter their position, that is, as he said - "I ask you to treat with understanding (to the next robbery)."
Endless and completely useless pre-conferences, May decrees and other appeals. Especially amusing is the annual appeal: "It's time to get down to business without swinging."
And the calls are emptiness, where is his team, who will perform?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Svarog

Firstly, the new president must be a socialist .. and secondly Platoshkin is not very bad.

Platoshkin is very far from socialism, his new socialism is capitalism. It seems to me that he is the same manipulator as Navalny. In addition, he is a boor (it is worth looking at his debate with Semin, for example). It is necessary to go not for personalities, but for one or another idea, it is necessary to organize from below.

[Svarog]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Platoshkin is very far from socialism, his new socialism is capitalism. It seems to me that he is the same manipulator as Navalny

On what basis does this seem to you? .. Platoshkin is a realist.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Svarog

On what basis does this seem to you? .. Platoshkin is a realist.

Read his program, it doesn’t smell like socialism, although it uses the symbols of the USSR and the slogans of the USSR.

[Svarog]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Svarog

On what basis does this seem to you? .. Platoshkin is a realist.

Read his program, it doesn’t smell like socialism, although it uses the symbols of the USSR and the slogans of the USSR.

Everything is fine there. I consider the most important nationalization of the oil and gas sector and energy companies. This is the most important because it is this fact that will allow you to have resources for the development of industry .. But he stands for the development of small and medium-sized businesses. I also support him here. And this is realism.
And then, do not forget, he is a diplomat. And, accordingly, softly strokes ..

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Svarog

Everything is fine there. I consider the most important nationalization of the oil and gas sector and energy companies. This is the most important because it is this fact that will allow you to have resources for the development of industry .. But he stands for the development of small and medium-sized businesses. I also support him here. And this is realism.
And then, do not forget, he is a diplomat. And, accordingly, softly strokes ..

Check out this YouTube review "Remy Meisner and Klim Zhukov: Is Platoshkin's New Socialism New?" I have nothing to add to it. And I am not ready to believe that he will do this, and not otherwise, without sufficient grounds. In addition, I do not believe at all that as a result of bourgeois elections representatives of a class other than the bourgeoisie can come to power.

[Svarog]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

that as a result of bourgeois elections, representatives of a class other than the bourgeoisie may come to power.

There is no arguing over ..

[Fan-fan]

So you believe those who haven’t really demonstrated anything over the past 20 years? Although they demonstrated something, namely the ability to get rich in person and showed an arrogant confidence to cling to power for life, they simply clutched at the throne with their claws and teeth. But Platoshkin, although promising to do something, Putin didn’t promise anything like that not 20 years ago or now. He can’t even promise something good to the people.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Thrifty

Therefore, we can talk about changing the leader of the country, but so far there is no one to change it for, so that inadvertently Judas does not appear in power. He didn’t begin to slander the country to pieces, he did not start the Civil War!

Firstly, the new president must be a socialist .. and secondly Platoshkin is not very bad.

Platoshkin is good - no doubt!
Yes, and Kalashnikov is not bad! That deputy from Togliatti ...
But what about Putin’s promises?
After all:
"All that we were promised, no one will take away from us!"

[Svarog]

Quote: Paul Siebert

But what about Putin’s promises?

Putin was blown away ... as soon as he began to deceive the people. Putin is already an anchor tied to the neck of Russia. If at the beginning of his term he really dragged .. now it’s a burden.

[depressant]

So what would I do in Putin's place?
Putin should gather his accomplices and say: guys, I pulled you, mediocre ones, I enriched you, stupid ones, but you forgot that I am not only your president - I am the president of the whole people, the whole country, I am responsible for her, I have to keep it, I'm not your godfather, I have a historical mission, otherwise my descendants will curse me, as they curse Gorbachev, but he is still alive and hears all this, but I don’t want to hear that, so I’m taking measures. If he does not gather them in a pile, does not openly tell them this (how tired of his intelligence-conspiracy, forcing to interpret his statements and actions!), Will not be able to insist on what we need, and not to an overweight bunch of "loved ones", then imagine it's scary what can happen to all of us, that means to the country.

[AAK]

Dear Lyudmila Yakovlevna, if the guarantor tries to pronounce such words aloud to his "accomplices", then even the "kitsch" will not be limited ... and the new decree about the ruthless military FSO will not save ...

[depressant]

Colleague, I never doubted that this is so. The National Guard and the FSO will be overbought. Our offshore oligarchs have $ 3 trillion, which means at least a trillion in cash. Therefore, there are just as many opportunities not only to crush Putin, if he blames something wrong, but also the same number of opportunities to put someone who will say "that". Putin is at least more familiar. I really understand those colleagues who have young political muscles. But I'm a boring grated roll. Let's say the hired Putin is replaced by the hired Pupkin, throwing a small money dice to the people. And then everything will go on as before, or even worse. Practice shows that it is worse. If you put strong pressure on Putin, then the pressure, perhaps, will reach the oligarchs. Their brains are unlikely to adjust, they live by instincts, but maybe fear will work.

[Overlock]

Quote: depressant

Their brains are unlikely to settle, they live by instinct, but maybe fear will work.

but, interestingly, Putin thinks so the brain?

[Svarog]

Quote: depressant

Putin must gather his accomplices and say: guys, I pulled you, mediocre, I pulled you,

And the loafers will say .. the king went on the roof, another is needed .. there is mutual responsibility .. cut the entrance .. exit-life ..
It is necessary to completely change the elite, these will in every way persevere them, and so everything suits ..

[depressant]

How to change it, Svarog? So that there is no blood? In my opinion, only by the powerful protest pressure of the Internet - they read! I read. It is already boiling. Our oligarchs are either scoundrels or complete. Potanin: I’ll give a billion to fight against coronavirus, but only NPOs (by itself knows that if the budget, then predator friends will steal). But if in an NPO, then the registration will take months. And there, you see, the virus will decline, and the NPO will be created by Potanin himself. Not damned, not wrinkled - political points in your pocket. Or, for example, billionaire Andrei Simenovsky renovated his native school 106 in the Empire style. With gilding, vignettes, palace chandeliers - what, huh? I am reproached that I live in a different reality. No, it is they, the oligarchs, who live in a different reality, guided by perverted ideas about the present. Therefore, colleagues, protecting Putin from the attacks of the forum, defend the perverted reality of the oligarchy. Whatever you can’t throw off without blood. But I do not want Russian people to die.

[Svarog]

Quote: depressant

How to change it, Svarog? So that there is no blood?

I do not know. But there is only one option, to campaign for socialism and the more we will be, the more pressure there will be and in the end the socialist will come to power. We need a powerful society demand for socialism.

[edmed]

Quote: depressant

So what would I do in Putin's place?

Example. South Korea, the local dictators bent everyone, and hard workers and oligarchs, forcing everyone to work for the good and prosperity of their fatherland, they did not forget about themselves loved ones.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Thrifty

Roman, asking a question, what’s called a rib, you didn’t give an answer to it?

I also read the title of the article: How to find a responsible president for the future?
I am also worried about this question, well, I think I will find the answer. But I read the article further, Putin is guarded by the FSO, the Russian Guard, the Ministry of Internal Affairs - which means a coup is impossible.
Putin shifted all the problems that arose to the governors and lower-ranking officials, but he himself did not offer anything worthwhile, I understand it so that "I am tired, I am leaving" we will not hear.
The author further agrees that Putin will remain, but become what he was in 2002, although the author himself does not believe in such an opportunity.
No offense, I didn’t find an answer, maybe you offer to look for the answer to this question yourself? but I don’t know the answer, I’m honest.

[Overlock]

Quote: Anatol Klim

I don’t know the answer, I’m honest.

but there is no answer in this situation. Zutswang turned out!

Quote: Anatol Klim

Putin is guarded by the FSO, the Russian Guard, the Ministry of Internal Affairs - which means a coup is impossible.

remember the past - the KGB, the USSR Armed Forces, the police. How did it end?

[Fan-fan]

How to find a responsible president for the future?

You just have to try, choose another, i.e. of all candidates, one must vote for one who, against the background of the others, makes the best impression. And if the elected president does not do anything good for the country, then again choose another and so on until he comes across a sensible one. To do this, we people need to show will, discard indifference and laziness, the French just go to the rally, and we cannot organize a peaceful rally. Even the Armenians could, and the Russians, why are they worse or lazy? And yet, it is necessary to return the 4-year term of the presidency, since it will cost the country dearly to endure a "dummy" on the throne. And yet - to prohibit changing the constitution "in bulk", but only article by article and at a national referendum, otherwise the current rulers have completely "got loose", they are already comparing the constitution with a set meal

[telobezumnoe]

how are you going to choose a president? on commercials? of those who will show you? all these tales into democracy, only for the illusion of choice.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Thrifty

but the SPECIALIST is not visible from the economy!

Stalin was a seminarist, Park Jung hee teacher, Roosevelt lawyer. Somehow we managed .... Here rather honesty is more relevant than a specialty. Therefore, people from business, bodies in particular, and government agencies in general, deputies and other similar ones can be eliminated by default.

[Nikolaevich I]

Honestly ... I was able to read one third ... I will read the rest when I sober up ... with Komsomol greetings ... Your Nikalaich!

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Honestly ... I was able to read one third ... I will read the rest when I sober up ... with Komsomol greetings ... Your Nikalaich!

Yes, Nikolayevich, how much strength on weakness goes!
I am the same.
As for alcohol - I know the norm. But I can’t drink so much ...

[depressant]

Yes, you are Shakespeare, a colleague!

[astronom1973n]

Why this article? The week of self-isolation had just passed and businessmen were already howling about the loss of profit. They write that there is nothing to eat. What, in a week? everything was eaten in March, something was eaten. I personally have a retired mother, 75 years old, unfortunately, recently living alone, my husband died, I’m in another city. He looks at the situation with optimism, it was even worse, especially at the time Khrushchev. The garden is preparing to dig and plant everything according to plan. So there are whiners, and there are optimists. The situation is certainly difficult, but in such cases they say that the horses at the crossing do not change, you need to stand and not whine. All good luck and patience and strength of spirit.

[depressant]

Astronomer, not everyone has a vegetable garden. Lots of people who don't have them. Vegetable gardens are not a panacea for lack of money. The cure could be a normal state policy that is sensitive to the state of the economy. Did the president promise 25 million jobs? He promised! What - myself, had to create them manually? No! The people had to create them! People, do you understand? People! To do this, it was necessary to do nothing - let small and medium-sized businesses (MiS) go free - nothing at all! That is, to do what the budget would not have cost a penny. On the contrary, it would have filled it to the brim. And now, in the coronavirus political era, the stock of "fat" would be significant not only for entrepreneurs, but also for countless hired personnel. But we do not have a host of small and medium-sized entrepreneurs, just as there is no "fat"! And whoever has it, then a very skinny, miserable "fat" - has not accumulated, because from month to month, from year to year, the country slowly slipped into a recession, pumping out taxes from a skinny business stratum that was not crushed by anyone into the National Fund welfare. And now, drooling greedy, the oligarchs are waiting for the moment to be torn apart for the umpteenth time for their own funds of their personal welfare. I assure you they will. If the president suddenly does not remember his professional duties. And if he does not, then the coronavirus oligarchs will tear the country to shreds. Okay we, what will the world say to this? Does Putin have pride?

[astronom1973n]

"Depressant", you are a real depressant. Everything you have is bad and despondency in all your words. A sensitive policy or not is all a conversation in favor of someone who is not clear. We build capitalism, and not developed. Therefore, read Marx, Engels and you will be happy! We have leaked the USSR, and it will not be returned. Yes, and I’m tired of reading about Putin in every article, I’m just tired. There will be no Putin, there will be Ivanov, Petrov and Sidorov, and people will be unhappy with these characters, this is a classic of sociology and political science. everyone and everyone is happy - this is a utopia.

[depressant]

Astronomer, the minus is not mine, because I largely agree with you. Yes, I whine. But I do this because, apart from himself, Putin will not allow anyone to rule the country. Even if he leaves the presidency, say, to the senatorial office. Or someone else. Having reset his deadlines, he clearly and clearly told you that he is not going to leave. Independent of voting on amendments. Therefore, you have to work with the "material" that is. Like the Strugatskys. Do good out of evil. I don’t see a politician who, flapping angelic wings, will come instead of Putin now and will not be engaged by the rich and the West. I don’t trust anyone. And if I go out to protest, waking it up, that is, under the bullets of the National Guard, then from despair, from hunger, which turns off the mind.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: astronom1973n

My personally retired mother is 75 years old, unfortunately she has been living alone recently, my husband has died, I am in a different city. I look at the situation with optimism

Why shouldn’t she look? With optimism? Alone with retirement? Now, if she gives a couple of children, her husband, and jobs, to her in which cafe, and let her husband at the car service, but take her pension, she will sharply diminish optimism.

[astronom1973n]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Why shouldn’t she look? With optimism? Alone with retirement? Now, if she gives a couple of children, her husband, and jobs, to her in which cafe, and let her husband at the car service, but take her pension, she will sharply diminish optimism.

You don’t understand something, she raised children and it was not an easy time either. At all times it was difficult. She earned her pension honestly. So your sarcasm is inappropriate. Only a week has passed, and you are already howling and groaning. What will happen next? Are you going to rob and kill? In your opinion, do you need to introduce measures against a pandemic? And the recipe for everything is to give out loots. Well, what will they give? Better? Next month ask for more.! No work? Yes, we have been looking for a janitor for a month and technical equipment, go? No, it will be moaning. Whiners.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: astronom1973n

You don’t understand something, she raised children and at the same time it was not easy

My dear .... Here you just sound a specific date, month, year, at least under Stalin, at least during Khrushchev and Brezhnev, when they would tell the people to sit at home, not to dare to work, hand over bread cards, eat bark and eat grass. But then, if you find a suitable example, talk about when, where and what were the times.
If you are, then even in the besieged Leningrad, at the very peak of hunger, albeit a very rotten quality, but they gave 125 grams of bread to dependents. You see, in besieged Leningrad, which could fall from day to day, there was more concern for people than in the current Russian Federation. This is not even a diagnosis, it is already the results of an autopsy ....

[Finches]

Change your current time for at least a week to be in the besieged Leningrad?

[depressant]

Zyablitsev, my dear, if self-isolation is not removed, in a month the whole porch of my Khrushchev will be in the analogue of the besieged Leningrad.

[Finches]

I don’t think ... Do not bomb from above! There is heating, there is electricity ... No need to escalate the situation! Difficult, but not fatal!

[Ivan Kolodin]

Is there anything?

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Finches

Change your current time for at least a week to be in the besieged Leningrad?

What exactly do you want to hear? What is better in Russia now than in besieged Leningrad? Yes. Better so far. But this is precisely the abomination of the situation. In the blockade, dependents were really not needed. They did not influence the question of the city's survival in any way. And it would be rational to leave them to die, and redirect all resources to troops, factories, transport. But. Balancing on the brink of the survival of the entire city, they were dragged. Until the last. The workers in the defense industry fainted, but to say - sit at home and do not buzz, your work is not relevant, the hairdressers who are not needed will die, this has never occurred to anyone. In the Russian Federation, it is now very far from the problems of Leningrad. But .... Self-isolation, there is no bread, but you hold on. Do you understand what this is about? About morality. Dying of hunger, Leningrad was ready to die, all of it, without division into "city-forming" and superfluous. In a slightly poverty-stricken Russia ... Millions of "superfluous" people are easily put under lock and key and without soldering. It's not up to you mlyn, you need to save the oilmen, who just 3 weeks ago squealed that they weren't a problem even 20 bucks per barrel. Moral of the wolf pack. And we will also write about God and other nonsense, like the welfare state, to the Constitution. Yeah.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: astronom1973n

but in such cases they say that they do not change the horses at the crossing, you must stand and do not whine

what ferry? we are adrift ... in front of the waterfall ... wake up !!

[Ivan Kolodin]

Yeah, they don’t change horses ... He forgot only to say that the crossing dragged on for 20 years, we still don’t swim in any way, I’m afraid not one horse can drive so much ...

[AUL]

Quote: astronom1973n

. The situation is certainly difficult, but in such cases they say that they do not change the horses at the crossing, you must stand and not whine

And if the horse no longer pulls, neither to the crossing, nor on it, what, and stand in the middle of the river? Even this will not work, it will blow away with the current! It seems that the horse himself conceived this "crossing" so as not to be changed.

[aybolyt678]

Quote from AUL

And if the horse has not pulled for a long time, neither before the crossing, nor on it, what, to stand in the middle of the river?

when a bandit collects a very large number of followers and gains control of a very large number of resources, he becomes a politician:

And on the contrary, a politician who has lost his followers and control over resources becomes an ordinary bandit:

[Alf]

Quote: astronom1973n

The situation is certainly difficult, but in such cases they say that they do not change the horses at the crossing, you need to stand and not whine.

Since 1999 they haven’t changed, but the ferry is getting further and further ..

[yuliatreb]

I still think this could have been avoided, there was no reason to dance to the tune, there was a truly stupid situation in which the president did not prove himself a strong personality with an analytical mindset, it seems that Putin left in 2008 and still wanders somewhere in the vast expanses of Russia. Maybe we should call him, Volodya come back.

[The popuas]

It's not in vain that divorced the "wife"! And then our Metropolitan Kirill, very much like the deceased "Yaponchik"

[Fan-fan]

The first wife sensed that something was wrong with him and left. And only at the end of 2014 I realized that everything, our leader has merged, we need another important company.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: yuliatreb

Maybe we should call him, Volodya come back.

well, let's call ... well, he’ll answer, as it has already been many times .. The trouble is that the dialogue does not work with the president answering the question, he does not ask about satisfaction with the answer.

[yuliatreb]

When a person has been in power for twenty years, he becomes pathologically ill with it, everything that he once wanted to do, wanted to change something without leaving a trace, and other priorities become paramount. The same hated America in our history encountered a similar one, after which the corresponding conclusions were made and amendments to the Constitution were made, no more than two terms, otherwise it would be a disaster. So for some reason, we still do not learn from the mistakes of others, but with stupid intervals we fill ourselves up with bumps, but because some of them are outweighed by power and lack the courage to simply leave.

[Mastrer]

In general, I am against articles with a heading which does not correspond to the content. But in this case it will be a petty nitpicking. The facts, so to speak, are striking in the face, in the most unscrupulous manner.

The situation is now on the verge of a foul. And our guarantor (heh), took the path of least resistance. In all years, the main electorate of Putin was older people and pensioners (periodically the composition varies, but the backbone has remained unchanged for a very long time), i.e. those who perceive what they say on television as the ultimate truth is a convenient, controlled electorate. And this damn virus hits its very heart ...

And here is the plug - as if people did not believe the president, but if he scores on a virus that kills them ... This is not forgiven. This pupil / student caught such an infection in 95% of cases for three weeks and runs a runny nose, for the rest it is not so rosy.

So a dilemma arises, take care of your main electorate or ditch the small / medium business - in which young people make up the vast majority. The choice, as we see, has already been made ...

But the funniest thing is that it was not necessary to make this choice if our glorious oligarchy, which actually brought Putin to power, and, with his permission, are now cutting billions (not rubles) on this. I didn’t kill medicine for the most reluctant. Diseases appeared in the USSR by orders of magnitude (!) More dangerous than this virus, but for some reason no one, even quarantine within the same city, had ever entered. To manage such a thing, excuse me, crap - this must be able to. Or really want money.

And from all this a very simple conclusion follows - there will be no other Putin (a comrade with a different last name will come). For it is not profitable. That’s the whole story.

[DMB 75]

And here she is, an old tale of a good king and bad boyars in the field. No?

Yes, she is the most. Very comfortable.

Remember what Putin promised on March 25th.

And if you recall what he promised in 20 years? There isn’t enough paper to write.

[jonht]

I’m wondering, they say a lot now for the self-employed .... And do they pay taxes? 90% no. I know quite a lot of "small businessmen" of them, if taxes are paid, then 40-45%, they are registered as unemployed and drive cars of prime class. And believe me, I don’t feel sorry for such people, sorry for those who chose to work for such people.

[Mastrer]

Um, do you just know that any purchase more than 300k rubles goes to the control of the Federal Tax Service? It’s clear to Sechin and the Rottenbergs that they have a hairy paw.

But if the self-employed rides in the S-class and ignores the tax, then this is clearly a difficult person.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Mastrer

But if the self-employed rides in the S-class and ignores the tax, then this is clearly a difficult person.

Not necessary. They buy one for three families (quietly remember Boku) grandmothers from the sold grandmother’s apartments, their own prior and consumer loans. )))

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: jonht

I’m wondering, they say a lot now for the self-employed .... And do they pay taxes? 90% no. I know quite a lot of "small businessmen" of them, if taxes are paid, then 40-45%, they are registered as unemployed and drive cars of prime class. And believe me, I don’t feel sorry for such people, sorry for those who chose to work for such people.

In small cities, there is no one to work for.

[Overlock]

Quote: jonht

And believe me, I don’t feel sorry for those, I’m sorry for those who chose to work for them.

Believe me, in the crisis that Peskov himself spoke of, he will not make out who is who. It’s like a virus, it just kills anyone, the virus does not interest money or its absence from the client

[jonht]

The novel, as always, in watered articles, "everything is bad." Maybe we'll get together and put him forward at least for the mayor of a small town. Let him work, put things in order. I will honestly campaign for him, I really want to see his vision of order in reality.

[astronom1973n]

Quote: jonht

Maybe we’ll get together and nominate him at least for the mayor of a small town.

I agree, Roman mayors!

[jonht]

In the USSR they said this, do not criticize but propose a solution. More than one article by Roman on Political Problems did not have a single proposal on how to resolve the problems.

[astronom1973n]

Quote: jonht

In the USSR they said this, do not criticize but propose a solution.

I remember (of course, unfortunately, not literally), when the Komsomol people said: "I do not agree, offer, offer, do!"

[depressant]

Astronomer, you do not understand. The novel poses a problem, and its forum solves. Suggest a solution, do not be shy - the problem is posed clearly!

[Pessimist22]

To take away and divide or to add and increase?

[edmed]

Quote: Pessimist22

To take away and divide or to add and increase?

It is taken away and divided, and folded and multiplied, it is from whom it is necessary, taken away and to whom it is necessary to multiply.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: jonht

In the USSR they said this, do not criticize but propose a solution. More than one article by Roman on Political Problems did not have a single proposal on how to resolve the problems.

You can’t prevent - head)). Monitoring and identification.

[KSVK]

Mayors, as well as governors, are appointed by the president.

[The popuas]

The system, you know, will not let you do something, even in a seedy little town! Vertical....

[jonht]

In Kamchatka there is a town, ELIZOVO. So, with all the support of EP, their condom did not go to mayors, people chose without a party. The vertical runs along the top of the executive branch. By the way, the acting Kamchatka governor started quite well. Instead of a dumped rat from a ship.

[Freeman]

Quote: jonht

In Kamchatka there is a town, ELIZOVO. So, with all the support of EP, their condom did not go to mayors, people chose without a party.

Good afternoon, Eugene. Are you a resident of Yelizovo?
If so, then I do not quite understand who you elected to "mayor" there.

According to the "charter of the Elizovsky Urban Settlement (2006)", you have "Head of the Elizovsky urban settlement - Chairman of the Meeting of Deputies of the Elizovsky urban settlement" и "Head of the administration of the Elizovsky urban settlement"
/ difference in authority can be found here: https://aif.ru/dontknows/1226010 /

According to the "Charter" -

Article 25. Head of Settlement

1. The head of the settlement is the highest official of the settlement and is vested in this Charter with his own powers to resolve issues of local importance.

2. The head of the settlement is elected by the Assembly of Deputies from among the deputies of the Assembly deputies for the term of office of the Assembly of Deputies by secret ballot and exercises the powers of the chairman of the Assembly of Deputies of the Elizovo city settlement. The powers of the Head of the settlement expire on the day the newly elected Head of the settlement takes office.

That is, direct election of "mayor" - not provided.

At the moment this is -

In her biography, on the official website of the administration / http://admelizovo.ru/ / indicated -

Supporter of the All-Russian Political Party "UNITED RUSSIA"

No, I certainly understand that she could go to the parliamentary elections as a "self-nominated candidate" (a "trick" of "United Russia", in the last elections). But then you wrote about the "mayoral elections."

Unclear. Explain if you can.

[jonht]

I am a resident of PK, and where did I write about what it was now? It was all in the last mayoral election of Elizovo. It is the election.

[Freeman]

Quote: jonht

I am a resident of PK, and where did I write about what it was now? It was all in the last mayoral election of Elizovo. It is the election.

Did you mean Nikolay Piskun? (2004 year)
Or someone else?
Thank you for your reply.

[jonht]

Yes, 2004.

[parusnik]

About the rise in prices, which is typical, after the pandemic goes away or is defeated, prices will not fall .... And after the "victory" over the pandemic, the free "distribution of elephants" to ministers, governors, they say, look, what heroes will begin .. Often there were comments: do you want in the 90s? ... Here they are standing outside the door ... they are picking up the keys to the locks ...

[Van 16]

Stalin took the country with a plow, left with a nuclear bomb.
Putin took over the country with the 90s and will leave the country with the 90s.

[EvilLion]

Like you, and in 1953 they saw one plow. It is ridiculous to hear arguments about the 90s from those born on Putin's maternal capital.

[Van 16]

Is that you about yourself? If anything, I have 37 years of work experience in production.

[Odysseus]

In general, everything is going according to the plan of the authorities. "Self-isolation" until the end of April, then a great victory over the coronavirus. All the problems in the economy are from the global economic crisis caused by the pandemic.
The only thing that surprised gr. Putin is a complete absence of any form of support for the population. Apparently the situation in the economy is completely catastrophic, that the "electorate" did not even promise anything. In fact, the state has defaulted on social obligations.
The main problems are still management (the fall of governors is connected with this), and the problem of oil prices. Here this week there will be a great battle between the Russian Federation and the Saudis for reducing quotas. The task is to bring and keep prices at least to the level of 40 per barrel by any means.
As for the ruin of small and medium-sized businesses, they simply decided to sacrifice them, moreover, their ruin is always a plus for large businesses. Yes, and the operating rate will increase, the people will now clutch at any work.
As for finding a responsible president, in class societies, power is a concentrated expression of the interests of the ruling class, while in countries with peripheral state capitalism (like the Russian Federation), it is the interests of a closely knit group of top bureaucrats and large owners. The problem of "finding presidents" and even "responsible" in such societies is not at all worth it.

[3x3zsave]

I won’t begin to follow the example again. A trifle: the faucet-box in the mixer at the neighbor broke. They were looking for the whole community, well, in the next entrance, the peasant found a spare. Some strange, German. And nowhere to buy.

We return to the time of the 80s, when in every apartment there should be a supply of candles, light bulbs, crane boxes, switches?

And they are already gone, because there are no those who sell them.
Generally, building materials and "soputka" are included in the list of essential goods. It is strange that Voronezh does not know about it.

[Krasnodar]

Greetings Anton!
So all sorts of Leroy Merlin open?

[3x3zsave]

Albert!
I did not visit Leroy. "Maksidom" and "Petrovich" work in approximately the same mode as Yulmart used to work. ETM and Minimax work only for delivery via Internet payments. I take engineering plumbing from my friends on a preliminary call.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: 3x3zsave

Albert!
I did not visit Leroy. "Maksidom" and "Petrovich" work in approximately the same mode as Yulmart used to work. ETM and Minimax work only for delivery via Internet payments. I take engineering plumbing from my friends on a preliminary call.

So it's time to start delivering such equipment (if there is delivery in the OKVEDs)

[3x3zsave]

No, I don’t have transport services in OKVED. Although, from a certain point of view, you intrigued me.

[Krasnodar]

I have - in the VAT LLC-shke, really. Now I’ll check the simplification. You’ll come in if Che is on the board)),

[3x3zsave]

Ha, do you trust me so much?

[Krasnodar]

But no - one transaction per year, registered in Krasnodar ... well, you can throw on the authorized capital 5000 RUB, press EMNIP - half

[3x3zsave]

"Walking woman" !!! I also go to Krasnodar to pay taxes?!?!?!

[Krasnodar]

If you press it, then yes

[3x3zsave]

That's how they met, Asol and Captain Gray !!!!

[Overlock]

Quote: Krasnodar

So all sorts of Leroy Merlin open?

are closed

[Freeman]

Quote: Overlock

Quote: Krasnodar

So all sorts of Leroy Merlin open?

are closed

In Moscow, they work "in a sly" way. Officially closed.
But! Make an order through the website - and you get it by "pickup" from the store.

[_Sergei_]

Today I went for screws, everything works

[3x3zsave]

Sergei!
What city?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: _Sergey_

Today I went for screws, everything works

Yesterday was too. He took an electric cable, box, distribution box. Leroy is working. True, the queue is cut off by 10 people, so that the crowd at the cash registers is not going to.
ps - Yaroslavl.

[3x3zsave]

My location: St. Petersburg.

[samarin1969]

Quote: Thrifty

Who will change the cuckoo to hawk, that is, the old president to the new? And, the catch is that in our political arena there is no adequate situation that can solve the main thing - to take care of the country's economy!

Whom to change? ... Well, we are unlikely to be allowed to change, to choose from "agreed" portraits is yes.
I disagree that there are no "potential candidates" at all. Hero of the Russian Spring in Sevastopol, Mr. Chalov, for example. A successful businessman, courageous person, politician.
And he, suddenly, was quickly removed.
I think there are other people in Russia. The price of the issue is massive support.
The virus made so many people finally think.

[Gardamir]

.Well, they are unlikely to give us change

By your faith you will be rewarded.
Remember all countries voted for the Union in a referendum. Here is just one thing to put a tick in a piece of paper, and the other with all our might to wish for market socialism with a human face. 270 million wished. And now in the market, it is true without socialism without a face, but the main desire is fulfilled.
At the last election, both supporters and opponents of Putin said, well, now they will elect him anyway, but in 2024. Well, the wish has been fulfilled.
Observe, the point is not whether you believe it or not. It will be as everyone wants. And so when many really want changes. The changes will come. In the meantime, all these false analysts are crushing their mass. Look at what Putin supporters are proud of, and nothing. They do not even give any evidence. But...
But dig in your soul, do you agree to change? Not one day to go back in time in a time machine, but to live in an ever-changing reality, when everything that is familiar is crumbling. Only reality will change anyway. The only question is who will change you or them.
Well, for dessert.
https://www.proza.ru/2016/08/10/1569

[samarin1969]

Quote: Gardamir

... and live in an ever-changing reality, when all that is familiar is crumbling. Only reality will change anyway ...

Yes, life and so CONSTANTLY changes a lot since the death of Brezhnev. It has long been adapted to "stable instability".

ps I don’t think that the INORGANIZED energy of "statistical units" with a ticket in hand will change anything.

[EvilLion]

Your problem is that in front of someone like you, it’s useless even to build the Crimean bridge, even to take the Reichstag, even to make the whole country accessible in Turkey every year. You’ll whine anyway that everything’s wrong with you, that Putin stole your pension from you (let's make a pension from 50 years old and everyone will be happy).

I am surprised that Putin generally tolerates you, for something in 20 years, obviously all this has gotten so that you never dreamed of. And even you can’t express yourself in front of cameras.

[Gardamir]

In order. Nobody would have prevented the liberation of the Donbass, would not have to build a bridge. However, the Donbass was organized so that the yellow-black in Crimea did not climb.
Reichstag freed red, not tricolor do not stick on. I don’t understand why if your dream of sunbathing in Turkey should please me. I want to be free, as it was in the USSR.
But your Wuhan flu is an occasion to strengthen totalitarianism.
Is it clear now! Or again you will give out their Wishlist for the common good?

[Freeman]

Quote: EvilLion

I am surprised that Putin generally tolerates you, for something in 20 years, obviously all this has gotten so that you never dreamed of. And even you can’t express yourself in front of cameras.

"+100500". I haven't laughed like that for a long time.
For this "passage" - you "+"

Shl. Vladimir Vladimirovich, have you really condescended to "VO"?
This is what "life-giving self-isolation" does.

[depressant]

Chalova - support!
So, she said, and I think with concern: Chalov should now take care of himself. And then you never know what ...

[rocket757]

Now I’m going to work, they’ve called, I’ll see how they stop in the city? If they stop?
In the meantime, in the village, in the district center, everything is quiet !!!
The people are working, they are fulfilling the food program for their family !!!
So it is with us. Nobody gets underground, everyone works!

[Same lech]

The people are working, they are fulfilling the food program for their family !!!
So it is with us. Nobody gets underground, everyone works!

Unfortunately, not everything is so gracious ... inadequate appeared ... go out with knives.
In my city, what an abnormal man stabbed several people in broad daylight ... .

[rocket757]

So spring has not ended yet, there is also a crisis in the brain, in the media and many more where it has nestled itself !!!
Plus, forced \ not forced idleness ...
Idleness. it is the ENEMY OF ALL !!!
Who works, does what he loves / needs, he is not in crisis, however !!!

[samarin1969]

Quote: Mikhail M

President makes retinue

Ivan the Terrible, Peter I, Alexander III, Stalin themselves harshly "made" this retinue.
Well, such as Nikolai Romanov or EBN - "resigned."

The worst thing is when "Marta Skavronskaya" "somehow rules" ... From her politics there were only portraits.

[EvilLion]

It is interesting from where only such shots as Nikita Khrushch, Yezhov, Egorov got to this Stalinist retinue, which Stalin personally deleted from the submitted lists until such evidence brought that it was impossible not to disbelieve.

[samarin1969]

Quote: EvilLion

It is interesting from where only such shots as Nikita Khrushch, Yezhov, Egorov got to this Stalinist retinue, which Stalin personally deleted from the submitted lists until such evidence brought that it was impossible not to disbelieve.

So Stalin is not "almighty" at all. And in general, "it is human to make mistakes."

[EvilLion]

And for sure, I forgot. To blame. Putin is God with us. In the famous former republic, even his cult is.

[samarin1969]

Quote: EvilLion

And for sure, I forgot. To blame. Putin is God with us. In the famous former republic, even his cult is.

And where does Putin? ... And the republic has not yet been able to "identify".

[Gardamir]

In general, yours is to blame for everything Stalin, Putin has a different position, there is always nothing to do with it.

[Amateur]

It seems that someone is deliberately provoking the GDP to the most unpopular actions. Zeroing is clearly an unpopular measure. Helping Americans is a mockery of Russians. Well, the speech about "obligatory payment of salaries" is a masterpiece of incompetence and lack of information of the head. K. Clausewitz is involuntarily recalled:

“Russia is not a country that can really be conquered, that is, occupied ... Such a country can be defeated only by internal weakness and the action of discord. But to reach these weak points of political life is possible only through a shock that would penetrate to the very heart of the country. ”

[Maks1995]

“I’m not opposed to Vladimir Putin-2024 becoming president again. But it’s not 2020, but 2002 president.”
Wonderful Wishlist.
Surely many people want Stalin -1928, and Stalin 1943, and Brezhnev 1966 ..

But the result is one. As soon as in 2008 the rise in oil prices stopped, so did the growth of the real economy.
Only the number of billionaires, millionaires, etc. grew. All old seven-bank friends and dealers of the 1st Family are inviolable.

And who could have real authority for the presidency there? General and surgeon? Remind me what we ended up with?

Conclusion, IMHO. There will be a life president in the best traditions of Africa. It doesn't matter whose last name is at the top. No one will give up power from hands with such percentage of profit .....

[I]

I read what the treatment for coronavirus in the USA was and was horrified. For some reason, our liberals are not talking about this. But this is a fortune. From 40 to 70 thousand dollars. And insurance may not help if the medical institution considers that this case is not spelled out in it. And judging by the number of infected people (more than 300 thousand people), you understand that it is not in vain that they say who the war is and who the mother is close to. That’s where the ruin and the robbery are.
And in our country, thanks to the measures taken, there are almost a hundred times less cases. And mortality at the moment does not exceed the percentage of deaths from influenza (<1%). It seems that it would be possible, at least for now, to refrain from criticizing Putin and treat with understanding. But no, you have to talk nonsense and charm the president even at this difficult moment.
Somehow everything is low.

[Blackmokona]

In our country, the infection has begun to spread more slowly, and is growing at an accelerated pace. Plus, private owners were banned from checking for the virus, so all statistics are completely in the hands of the state.

[I]

,, is growing at an accelerated pace. ,,

Why lie?

In my hometown near Moscow there is not one infected. And this despite the fact that many people go to Moscow to work.
The population is less than 100 thousand. Therefore, each bunch is audible.

[Blackmokona]

The situation in Russia

In Russia, 658 new cases of coronavirus infection were detected per day. Thus, the total number of cases in the country is 5389, 45 people died.

https://www.rbc.ru/society/05/04/2020/5e2fe9459a79479d102bada6
The data of the evening on April 5.
It can be seen that the growth rate of infected more than 10% per day

[I]

And how do you like such statistics?


,, By March 12, diagnosed cases of COVID-19 in the United States exceeded one thousand, after which this number doubled every two days and by March 20 reached 17 thousand.

By March 26, the United States came first in the world in terms of the number of cases, ahead of China and Italy.

By March 27, the number of cases in the United States exceeded 100, by April 000, 1, and by April 200, 000. ,,

[Gardamir]

And so you write from the USA, maybe we'll talk about Russia. Everyone sees the data in Yandex at once, and you're talking about a bunch. As for merit, count how many hospitals he closed, how many doctors he reduced.

[I]

Everything is relative.


In Russia, over a thousand exceeded 27.03.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX.

That is, if the spread rate were the same as in the United States, then by April 4.04.2020, 17 there would have to be about 11.04.2020 thousand patients with coronavirus, and by April 100, XNUMX the number of cases should exceed XNUMX thousand people.

That is, the measures are correct and timely. And Putin, in this regard, well done!

[I]

,, Data in Yandex can see everything at once, but you're talking about a bunch,

The fact of the matter is that liberals play on this and rub people, that real data is hidden. And that there are more cases. And I show by my example that the opposition is lying, as well as almost always.

[Blackmokona]

I say we started a little closer.
By the way, new data rolled up
954 new cases per day in Russia. Follow the US scenario

[Overlock]

Quote: it's me

growing at an accelerated pace. ,,

Why lie?

In my hometown near Moscow there is not one infected. And this despite the fact that many people go to Moscow to work.
The population is less than 100 thousand. Therefore, each bunch is audible.

You are lucky, but this does not mean that there is no virus

[I]

Once again I say that everything is relative

[EvilLion]

Over the past 20 years, our leadership has learned how to solve real problems in the face of opposition, they have forgotten how to do it in the post-Soviet years, but it has learned to chat. He was in the 2008 bell, although 30 years before that, this would have been simply impossible. Well, the well-fed years are over, for all, for us, you may have to take the iPhone cheaper and less often, for them, as it were, not from the cottage to the street.

[depressant]

I will not die in the coming summer
Thanks to Putin for that!
So yes?

[Chaldon48]

What's not clear here "There is no money, but you hold on!"

[EvilLion]

Again, the state did not protect the author, although even with a moronic virus Russia was almost the only country in which the epidemic is under control.

[EvilLion]

In general, when people like the author scold Putin, I once again become convinced that Putin, like Stalin, would be a country without him.

[Gardamir]

Where is Putin now?

[Overlock]

Quote: Gardamir

Where is Putin now?

the chieftain thinks

[Keeping]

A strong Russia is needed for another 50 years to all, our elites and their Western partners. Until the complete depletion of natural resources (forest, fish, oil, gas, diamonds, gold). After 50 years, it will become extremely unprofitable to extract the remains. Our only asset will be the drinking water of Lake Baikal. But we (Russia / USSR) will never be again! Not one Peter the Great / Stalin can create a country without anything, without resources.

[tatra]

Putin acted like Putin as head of state. Whenever tragedies happened in Russia, he disappeared for several days. And after the announcement of the increase in the retirement age, he "isolated himself" for a month and a half, - did not speak out on this matter, so that all responsibility for raising the retirement age would be blamed on Medvedev, ministers, edross, and so that the indignation of the people fell upon them, and not on him.
One of the most important qualities of the enemies of the Communists, with whom they imagined that they deserve to own the country, is cowardice, a complete lack of a sense of responsibility.

[30143]

Where in a month thousands of employees of small enterprises that were ruined by then will go, Vladimir Vladimirovich is clearly not very interested. And they will have nowhere to go.

How nowhere? To the war ... as was done in Ukraine. First they killed the production. How to feed the family? Where to work? Fine! Let's go to war ... with my brother, neighbor .... Oh, we take the grub, the equipment from them. In general, no one forbids looting.

I have a question - with whom can the Russian Federation begin military operations? For what goals and what ideals? For the Heroes of Labor of Russia? Or will they begin to cut the corridor to Crimea under the slogan "Beat the Ukrainians"? Or the Balts? Or drive the Saudis across the desert?
This is the question - where?
Only I have only two questions that remain unanswered - for what and for what?
And I understand that not everyone wants the Russian world with green men.

[Jurkovs]

The military review turned into a platform of political views of Roman Skomorokhov.

[alekseykabanets]

The worst thing is that all these measures will lead to the "proletarianization" (ruin) of small and medium-sized businesses, and relying on the "small shopkeepers" those forces can come to power. which came to Germany and Italy in the 30s. Already now, here on the forum voices are heard about the need for a firm hand. What are some good slogans about uniting the people in the face of danger (coronavirus, s, etc.). Imagine how great it is for me to unite with the Abramovichs, Rotenbergs and other best people, each in his place and all working for the good of the Fatherland, and at the head of the infallible leader of the nation (I don't really care what his name is).

[Chingachguk]

The article itself and most of the comments on it sound like a call for a change of power. Did you find the right time? Now, only in Russia does everyone feel bad against the background of the coronavirus?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Chingachguk

The article itself and most of the comments on it sound like a call for a change of power. Did you find the right time? Now, only in Russia does everyone feel bad against the background of the coronavirus?

Changing bad oligarchs to good socially responsible businessmen, as in Ukraine, is definitely not an option.

[Chingachguk]

I ask --- did you find the right time to raise these questions? Understand............

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Chingachguk

I ask --- did you find the right time to raise these questions? Understand............

Tell me when to raise these issues? They do not raise. it will only get worse.

[Chingachguk]

Worse to whom?
And the second - are there specific surnames and programs? Or is it much more necessary and interesting to procrastinate the issue of a change of power? Change the president of Russia to whom? What is the last name? Let us discuss the program of the newfound, and not the very action of the change of power (revolution).

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Chingachguk

Worse to whom?
And the second - are there specific surnames and programs? Or is it much more necessary and interesting to procrastinate the issue of a change of power? Change the president of Russia to whom? What is the last name? Let us discuss the program of the newfound, and not the very action of the change of power (revolution).

Strictly speaking, I do not believe at all that as a result of bourgeois elections, representatives of a class other than the bourgeoisie can come to power. There may be many left-wing parties in the parliamentary elections, mostly non-systemic parties, they are trying to organize now, often negotiate with the Communist Party and go from them to local councils.

[Chingachguk]

Parliamentary elections? Is this where parliamentarians sit on the salaries of the west? As soon as parliament begins to rule in Russia, its end will come.

[Chingachguk]

The fable of Kornei can tell about the parliaments most clearly ---- Once a swan, a crayfish and a pike ....... and things are still there.

[tatra]

Ha, never. Over the past 30 years, we have been listening and reading from the authorities, and those who are for power, first from Yeltsin and the "liberals" "be patient, now is not the time to change horses at the crossing", then from Putin and his comrades-in-arms "be patient, now is not the time to swing boat, enemies all around. " Now they have a new excuse - the coronavirus.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: EvilLion

Again, the state did not protect the author, although even with a moronic virus Russia was almost the only country in which the epidemic is under control.

What control is it under? In my city, the CRH was turned into a hospital for patients with coronovirus from all over the district (there are 4 official patients so far). We have not even really started yet. While just getting ready.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

What control is it under? In my city, the CRH was turned into a hospital for patients with coronovirus from all over the district (there are 4 official patients so far). We have not even really started yet. While just getting ready.

It is unclear why the cons? Here is the link from the office. Website https vvv labinsk.ru/?fullview_laba=20200405

[Aliken]

There are few real rioters, and there are no leaders.

[Ross xnumx]

Novel! I guessed in style and mood that you were from the very first offers. But!!! Excuse me, why so much water? And right under the curtain:

I repeat. I am not opposed to Vladimir Putin-2024 becoming president again. But so that it was the president of the model not in 2020, but in 2002.

Are you firmly convinced that it was in 2002 that he was sincere and honest? It seems to me that he agreed to become president, bearing his plans. His tenure ended in 2008. And all the rest of the time, he only did what he put together in the upper echelons of power his “manual” team, ready for anything for the sake of the existence of this very, first “extended”, and after the “nullified” regime. And, I must admit honestly, he put together.
Now that he has become that “guarantor” from which by and large it is impossible to ask (the people have no such source of authority), he will not answer anyone and discuss in the election debate (hypothetically, if it happened) neither with whom it will not be, who has changed and rewritten the warranty obligations yourself !!!, you are trying to believe in its rebirth ... No, there will not be rebirth. Everything is said here, everything is noted, everything is recorded ... Here the situation is akin to this:

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This is not the same Putin, honestly. That Putin walked and solved problems. Good or bad, he went to solve them. And this one ...

Correctly! And that Putin, and this one decided ITS Problems. All he did was strive to stay in power at all costs, to preserve everything, for which all the small and big “wheels and gears” of power were spinning. That is precisely why state problems remained with us: our lack of rights, our poverty and industrial weakness, our incomprehensible foreign "partner-friends" and a hopeless future, when only Putin's close associates from all incomes ...

[Oleg1]

I don’t know how about the coup, which some media and bloggers have amicably voiced about, of course, there is something in this. I mean that Putin allowed the FSO to use technology and everything else. They say it is afraid of a coup and overthrow.

I will say this: not without reason. The ratings go there, the knock comes from there, and everything is in the bottom. So there are reasons.
Congratulations, lying:

Address of the President of Russia to citizens and ratings of government institutions
74% of Russians surveyed trust Vladimir Putin, 72% approve of his work as President of the Russian Federation.
https://wciom.ru/index.php?id=236&uid=10219
Threat ashamed of VO descended to the publications of open lies.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Oleg1

I don’t know how about the coup, which some media and bloggers have amicably voiced about, of course, there is something in this. I mean that Putin allowed the FSO to use technology and everything else. They say it is afraid of a coup and overthrow.

I will say this: not without reason. The ratings go there, the knock comes from there, and everything is in the bottom. So there are reasons.
Congratulations, lying:

Address of the President of Russia to citizens and ratings of government institutions
74% of Russians surveyed trust Vladimir Putin, 72% approve of his work as President of the Russian Federation.
https://wciom.ru/index.php?id=236&uid=10219
Threat ashamed of VO descended to the publications of open lies.

Do you trust them (pocket ratings)? Look at the posts under Putin's latest speeches. Do you think these are all "evil paid trolls"?

[Peter Tverdokhlebov]

If the bulk was an independent person he would have been killed or put in prison a long time ago, and he was alive and healthy and sent his daughter to study in the USA, this means that the bulk is the same Western agent as Putin!

[Oleg1]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Oleg1

I don’t know how about the coup, which some media and bloggers have amicably voiced about, of course, there is something in this. I mean that Putin allowed the FSO to use technology and everything else. They say it is afraid of a coup and overthrow.

I will say this: not without reason. The ratings go there, the knock comes from there, and everything is in the bottom. So there are reasons.
Congratulations, lying:

Address of the President of Russia to citizens and ratings of government institutions
74% of Russians surveyed trust Vladimir Putin, 72% approve of his work as President of the Russian Federation.
https://wciom.ru/index.php?id=236&uid=10219
Threat ashamed of VO descended to the publications of open lies.

Do you trust them (pocket ratings)? Look at the posts under Putin's latest speeches. Do you think these are all "evil paid trolls"?

Give the data of an independent agency, see, listen, if you do not have them, then better keep quiet ....

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Oleg1

Give the data of an independent agency, see, listen, if you do not have them, then better keep quiet ....

Just look at the number of likes and dislikes under the last speeches, read the comments, and then think and draw conclusions, it's not difficult.

[Chingachguk]

Revolution is certainly fun! Wow! You can jump, try the cookies! Only now, before stupidly bouncing on the spot, I want to understand, but for what? What to change for? A simple question - what personally will my family and I get from this new one, for which they urge me to ride today? Announce the whole list please. And be sure to name the programs and names with the names of those with whom I then ask if they try to deceive me as they did in Ukraine ....

[Gardamir]

So there was a revolution in 91-93 as you? The real revolution changed the system. And the ruler was the same president of the RSFSR, became president of the Russian Federation. And there’s nothing to complain about. But if you think about the coup.

[Chingachguk]

Why revolution for the sake of revolution? Bored? Yes, and those who call for this, they themselves will not jump, they will receive dividends ....... It turns out like in a joke --- and what for I climbed here !!!! I don’t know how to read anyway !!!!

[Oleg1]

Quote: Peter Tverdokhlebov

If the bulk was an independent person he would have been killed or put in prison a long time ago, and he was alive and healthy and sent his daughter to study in the USA, this means that the bulk is the same Western agent as Putin!

Putin is a Western agent? Apparently, therefore, such persecution was launched against him in the West, and apparently therefore such money was invested in the West against the anti-Putin opposition ....
Threat check with a psychiatrist, you have something with logic .... a feeling that there are serious problems ...

[Peter Tverdokhlebov]

Do you know how to think with your head?
Or do you have one?
Harassment in the West is all a show! This is the first.
Secondly, the West loves Putin, remember Trump's words about a "wonderful man", remember the ratings of Forbes magazines, time, etc.
Tell me better why the Western agent Putin destroyed all chemical weapons?
Tell me how the Western agent Putin is taking time with the adoption of Sarmat, Petrel, S-500, etc.

[tatra]

His logic is all right, the enemies of the communists in the West, in Europe, on the territory of the USSR, all 100 years after the October Revolution, have been waging their vicious, aggressive, slanderous, hypocritical information wars both against dissidents and against each other - and one at a time template - whipping up hysteria, throwing unsubstantiated, slanderous accusations, justifying the crimes of the enemies of those whom they have chosen as an "enemy image", with hypocritical "righteous anger" exposing for the crimes of those whom they have chosen as an "enemy image", all the facts that they all other cases do not care - they justify them or "do not notice".

[Oleg1]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Oleg1

I don’t know how about the coup, which some media and bloggers have amicably voiced about, of course, there is something in this. I mean that Putin allowed the FSO to use technology and everything else. They say it is afraid of a coup and overthrow.

I will say this: not without reason. The ratings go there, the knock comes from there, and everything is in the bottom. So there are reasons.
Congratulations, lying:

Address of the President of Russia to citizens and ratings of government institutions
74% of Russians surveyed trust Vladimir Putin, 72% approve of his work as President of the Russian Federation.
https://wciom.ru/index.php?id=236&uid=10219
Threat ashamed of VO descended to the publications of open lies.

Do you trust them (pocket ratings)? Look at the posts under Putin's latest speeches. Do you think these are all "evil paid trolls"?

Give your rating of Putin, see the source, evaluate, but yours is not your love for him and a few people in this is not an argument ....

[tatra]

And what are your arguments for Putin? Which of what Putin has created over 20 years is good for Russia and its people?

[flicker]

And what are your arguments for Putin? Which of what Putin has created over 20 years is good for Russia and its people?

Do you regret that the USSR collapsed?

[awdrgy]

If you do not watch the news and do not succumb to the panic of those who watch them, then there is no premonition of danger from this sore No, that's all (many understand what I mean) The feeling that "what will happen" is there but not tomorrow And it is not clear why be ready The media are scared, it's obvious Why? -with a scared it is easier to promote something that he would never have gone for (Why didn't they stop why they didn't hide why they "promoted" the coronavirus? -the goal is to scare Only and only because of this it has been 3 months on all channels and In the internet) By the way, I wonder how much of their analysts have devoted time to "frighten" the majority? And if there is not enough fear? What is the plan "B"? What else will they come up with? After all, it is obvious that the active phase of the plan is underway and they will not change or stop the horses in the crossing What do they want to promote in the world? Mandatory vaccinations with some tricky secret stuff? Put everyone on a remote control while making an electronic device almost a passport and then leave it like that and gradually tighten it? Control full control of every step or even thought is the goal of those who hold power at all times And now, thanks to technology, its implementation is closer than ever Technology is sometimes the use of "natural but secret forces of nature" Where is it written? These are the thoughts that come to mind

[Gardamir]

If you take a reference point, it all started with a message and spin without interruption.

[awdrgy]

For us, yes, but I believe that the full picture will be visible if you look for these points a little earlier in other countries (it didn’t start with us anyway). But I haven’t even looked for such information in the internet lately, as it’s not before. You can try to dig something and And it makes sense to look for indirect facts confirming the obvious goal? Moreover, since you cannot find direct evidence here, serious opportunities are needed

[Overlock]

One trend merges ....

But as soon as the question arose that the state should (yes, hell, it should !!!) protect its citizens, that’s all, the state began to merge.

and the second .... "If the state dumps this concern on ourselves, let it disappear, it will be much easier for us!" - Nobel Prize Laureate in Physics, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Zhores Alferov.
This question is already asked by many today.
Multiply this by the nonsense of local governors who block cities, stop transport on highways with all the ensuing consequences such as stopping still operating enterprises, food shortages and rising prices for them, rising unemployment and beggars, falling ruble cattle and we are in a situation on the eve of the collapse of the USSR .
But ....

I want to live well. No matter what.

and I want to save the country. Nowhere to Retreat

[I]

,, Nobel laureate in physics, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Zhores Alferov ,,

And what did the laureate Gorbachev say?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: it's me

, Nobel laureate in physics, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Zhores Alferov ,,

And what did the laureate Gorbachev say?

I believe that comparing them is stupid.

[I]

,, I believe that comparing them is stupid. ,,

It is foolish to bring stupid thoughts of others

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: it's me

It is foolish to bring stupid thoughts of others

And what did you read Zhores Alferov? What programs did you watch with him? What thoughts do you think are stupid?

[I]

"If the state dumps this concern on ourselves, let it disappear, it will be much easier for us!"

This is a stupid idea.

A stupid letter to the president of 10 ancient academicians about the clericalization of society.

Well, sitting in the deputy’s chair up to 88 years old, until his death, also says a lot.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: it's me

A stupid letter to the president of 10 ancient academicians about the clericalization of society.

Do not you think the problem of merging the church with the state? Do you think it is normal to build three churches a day (average number) when schools are closed and education is degraded?

Quote: it's me

Well, sitting in the deputy’s chair up to 88 years old, until his death, also says a lot.

He retained clarity of mind until his death.

Quote: it's me

"If the state dumps this concern on ourselves, let it disappear, it will be much easier for us!"

It will really be easier for me if the state changes its social formation.

[I]

Where is the closure of schools, what a lie? Schools are being built.

Temples are not built even the number that the Communists were destroyed.

The degradation is not due to the construction of churches, but because of a stupid educational policy.

Anyway, the communist idea is just a dumb dream, which has nothing to do with reality.

At 88 years old, whatever the clarity of mind, legislative activity is no longer possible.


,, It will really be easier for me if the state changes the social formation. ,,

Change but not fade

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: it's me

Where is the closure of schools, what a lie? Schools are being built.

There is a good film by K. Semin on this topic "The Last Call". Take a look.

Quote: it's me

Temples are not built even the number that the Communists were destroyed.

According to the churches https://ria.ru/20171225/1511652528.html

Quote: it's me

Anyway, the communist idea is just a dumb dream, which has nothing to do with reality.

I don’t even want to discuss obvious stupidity.

[I]

,, I don’t even want to discuss obvious stupidity. ,,


This is what I liked most. They don’t want to discuss what they don’t know how to explain and what they themselves don’t understand.

[I]

,, According to the churches https://ria.ru/20171225/1511652528.html ,,


Have you ever read it yourself? Here is what is written there:




,, According to statistics, three churches a day are opened in the Russian Orthodox Church, and if construction continues at the same pace, then in 25-30 years the number of churches in Russia will double before reaching the pre-revolutionary level, said Metropolitan Hilarion of the Synodal Department for External Church Relations . ,,

[I]

“There is a good film by K. Semin on this topic" The Last Call ". Look. ,,


Why watch the bullshit? When in my hometown near Moscow over the past few years a second school was built and opened. And a mother-in-law in a forgotten village in the Nizhny Novgorod region is building a new school.

[steelmaker]

The article posed the right questions. And the authorities do not give answers to them. No one even imagines - what next?
The "boys" came from Moscow, after the New Year holidays, anxious. Either they joked or scared them like that. They cannot understand. They say June - September is the government planning to announce DEFAULT? After reading the article, I immediately remembered it.

[Oleg1]

Quote: Peter Tverdokhlebov

Do you know how to think with your head?
Or do you have one?
Harassment in the West is all a show! This is the first.
Secondly, the West loves Putin, remember Trump's words about a "wonderful man", remember the ratings of Forbes magazines, time, etc.
Tell me better why the Western agent Putin destroyed all chemical weapons?
Tell me how the Western agent Putin is taking time with the adoption of Sarmat, Petrel, S-500, etc.

Spectacle? Sanctions because of which Europe lost billions is this a show? Hundreds of millions of dollars thrown into our opshizu this performance? Boo-ha-ha. This is such money that the West will never begin to swell in any performance and under no circumstances!
"Tell us how a Western agent Putin is playing for time with the adoption of the Sarmat, Petrel, S-500, etc." and he is also pulling with the adoption of combat starships with animators and DEATH STARS! Bastard.
Once again, urgently to a psychiatrist! Systemic Logic Defeat!
PS I enlighten from the task of developing technology to taking it into the army, it takes from 5 to 15 years. If you don’t know, then let me ask how many year-olds you have .... I hope the kindergarten is a rather distant past?

[Fanur Galiev]

Is there any difference from who is sitting in the presidential chair? Isn't he just the face of those who actually rule the country? Perhaps due to what happened in the 90s (especially after the 1998 default), their sharp contrast compared to the same fat zeros seems an incredible achievement, and, which is characteristic, there is a huge difference between the leaders of the state, but if you deny it, to reject good times of oil for $ 100 and recovery time after the crisis as a result of the work of Primakov’s team, it turns out that there’s not much difference. What is especially evident in the post-crisis period after 2008.
If we distract from Russia and look at other countries, the picture there comes out quite clear. Yanukovych was in Ukraine, Poroshenko became, and then Zelensky changed him. Did something fundamentally change if you put aside the war in the Donbass. Presidents themselves in fact act similarly. Or what is the fundamental difference between Sarkozy-Hollande-Macron?

[evgen1221]

Here the thing is that we have a president with a figuratively speaking head and, so, fool about trifles. All significant initiatives are either sabotaged or, conversely, perverted by the retinue. And there is no way to look for a replacement for this retinue, because there is no vertical mobility and the limit of desires of those who have fallen in power, it will cling to someone’s business, fill up the money and get out of the country. Really necessary laws on the brakes are released. What is it worth obliging to keep the profits of all firms registered in Russia just in Russia? Then there would be a direct interest not to collapse the ruble over or not. Or the same trade unions, for show, there is also labor protection.

[Oleg1]

Quote: tatra

And what are your arguments for Putin? Which of what Putin has created over 20 years is good for Russia and its people?

My arguments are not against him, but against people like you and the author of the article, I am against repeating 91 years and a new collapse, but in the republics. He prevented this and lifted the country out of the horror of what it was in the 90s, and you want a repetition of this, without thinking, for money, it does not matter. That is why most of Russia is against you!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Oleg1

My arguments are not against him, but against people like you and the author of the article, I am against repeating 91 years and a new collapse, but in the republics. He prevented this and lifted the country out of the horror of what it was in the 90s, and you want a repetition of this, without thinking, for money, it does not matter. That is why most of Russia is against you!

Probably there is no person here in his right mind who would like to repeat the "holy nineties", but my opinion is that today the people who ruined the USSR are in power, they hide behind beautiful phrases, but in reality Russia today is only a raw material appendage economically more developed countries.

[Cowbra]

I liked the joke - “Imagine what would happen if Navalny was president right NOW, and Lyubka Arctic fox was the mayor of Moscow”?

[Oleg1]

Quote: Cowbra

I liked the joke - “Imagine what would happen if Navalny was president right NOW, and Lyubka Arctic fox was the mayor of Moscow”?

With longing, like heavenly times, we will remember the times of Yeltsin...

[BAI]

Either the idea is in the air, or the author is plagiarizing. Everyone has been shouting for a long time that the government has withdrawn itself. Instead of a legal emergency, when the authorities are responsible for everything, there is “self-isolation”, not provided for by any documents, when an ordinary citizen will ultimately be responsible and pay for everything, because violated the "recommendations". Like the wars in Chechnya and 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. In fact, these are real wars. And according to the documents, these are operations that have no legal significance to restore constitutional order and force the aggressor to peace.

[Oleg1]

Quote: BAI

Either the idea is in the air, or the author is plagiarizing. Everyone has been shouting for a long time that the government has withdrawn itself. Instead of a legal emergency, when the authorities are responsible for everything, there is “self-isolation”, not provided for by any documents, when an ordinary citizen will ultimately be responsible and pay for everything, because violated the "recommendations". Like the wars in Chechnya and 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. In fact, these are real wars. And according to the documents, these are operations that have no legal significance to restore constitutional order and force the aggressor to peace.

Ooh, sir expert wishes this:
a) complete or partial suspension, in the territory where a state of emergency has been introduced, of the powers of the executive authorities of the subject (subjects) of the Russian Federation, as well as local government bodies;
b) establishment of restrictions on freedom of movement in the territory in which a state of emergency has been introduced, as well as the introduction of a special regime for entry into and exit from the specified territory, including the establishment of restrictions on the entry into the specified territory and stay on it of foreign citizens and stateless persons;
c) strengthening the protection of public order, objects subject to state protection, and objects ensuring the livelihoods of the population and the functioning of transport;
d) establishing restrictions on the implementation of certain types of financial and economic activities, including the movement of goods, services and financial assets;
e) establishing a special procedure for the sale, acquisition and distribution of food and basic necessities;
f) prohibition or restriction of meetings, rallies and demonstrations, processions and picketing, as well as other public events;
g) prohibition of strikes and other methods of suspending or terminating the activities of organizations;
h) restricting the movement of vehicles and inspecting them;
i) suspension of the activities of hazardous industries and organizations that use explosive, radioactive, as well as chemically and biologically hazardous substances;
j) evacuation of material and cultural assets to safe areas if there is a real threat of their destruction, theft or damage due to emergency circumstances.
+
a) temporary resettlement of residents to safe areas with the mandatory provision of permanent or temporary residential premises to such residents;
b) introduction of quarantine, carrying out sanitary and anti-epidemic, veterinary and other measures;
c) attracting state material reserves, mobilizing the resources of organizations regardless of organizational and legal forms and forms of ownership, changing their mode of operation, reorienting these organizations to produce products necessary in conditions of a state of emergency and other changes in production and economic activity necessary in conditions of a state of emergency;
d) removal from work for the period of the state of emergency of the heads of state organizations in connection with the improper performance by the said managers of their duties and the appointment of other persons to temporarily perform the duties of the said managers;
e) removal from work for the period of the state of emergency of the heads of non-governmental organizations in connection with their failure to fulfill or improper implementation of the measures provided for in paragraph "g" of Article 11 of this Federal Constitutional Law and paragraph "c" of this article, and the appointment of other persons as temporarily performing the duties of these managers;
f) in exceptional cases related to the need to carry out and ensure emergency rescue and other urgent work, mobilize the working population and attract citizens’ vehicles to carry out the specified work, subject to mandatory compliance with labor safety requirements.
Why won't you be the first to whine about dictatorship? And do you really think that the situation requires SUCH measures?

[BAI]

Isn't this already the case?

b) establishment of restrictions on freedom of movement in the territory in which a state of emergency has been introduced, as well as the introduction of a special regime for entry into and exit from the specified territory, including the establishment of restrictions on the entry into the specified territory and stay on it of foreign citizens and stateless persons;
c) strengthening the protection of public order, objects subject to state protection, and objects ensuring the livelihoods of the population and the functioning of transport;
d) establishing restrictions on the implementation of certain types of financial and economic activities, including the movement of goods, services and financial assets;
e) establishing a special procedure for the sale, acquisition and distribution of food and basic necessities;
f) prohibition or restriction of meetings, rallies and demonstrations, processions and picketing, as well as other public events;
g) prohibition of strikes and other methods of suspending or terminating the activities of organizations;

b) introduction of quarantine, carrying out sanitary and anti-epidemic, veterinary and other measures;

d) removal from work for the period of the state of emergency of the heads of state organizations in connection with the improper performance by the said managers of their duties and the appointment of other persons to temporarily perform the duties of the said managers;

[Assyrian]

Quote: Finches

It is ordered to sit at home! Sit down

I fully support this. I don’t understand why they threw down minuses.
When Kondratiev announced quarantine, it was outrageous that so many enterprises were left open. In the minibus, half the people are wearing masks and the rest are smiling, like we don’t care.
Those who are outraged by the difficulties of small businesses should think about what will happen if at least one employee in a small team gets sick.
I suggested to the director to transfer my unit to a barracks position (there is less chance of catching an infection in transport, bringing it home and to the team, then the enterprise producing food will definitely stop without orders from the mayor or governor), he refused “prematurely.”

[Ivan Kolodin]

The fat times have passed, the head of the Ministry of Finance said today, that’s it, but we didn’t even notice these heavenly times, and now get ready to tighten our belts.... How can this be regarded...? Like a mockery of common sense, just a blatant quote from a master.....

[faterdom]

Yes, that Putin, who did not know exactly where to put his hands during filming, and how best to sit in front of the camera, but knew who needed to be killed, how to deal with the “breadwinner oligarchs”, and this one, who is imposing and condescending, easily holds the audience (hello to Galkin), but he categorically does not want to hurt or offend the “breadwinners”, he does not want to honestly tell the people where we are going and what we are sculpting - they are definitely different.
Although, back in 2000, I voted for Primakov, what a man, it’s a pity he didn’t win then...
Maybe all hope lies with Kadyrov? He copes with many problems in his republic, without simply bothering with anything other than revolutionary (?) expediency...

[ccsr]

Author:
Roman Skomorokhov

The number of FSO does not exceed 50 thousand people, and they are also slightly scattered.

Question to the author - you name a number, and the question arises from what ceiling you took it. Can you provide a source of your information that gives at least an approximate figure about the size of the FSO?

[Ivan Kolodin]

Well, for comparison, in the 9th department from where the FSO grew, there were 9000, under Kerzhakov about 15.000 worked. Yes, today information about the number is officially classified, but in our talkative market state everything can be found out.... Research from a number of publications on cost estimates budget, and a number of statements by some chatty employees lead to a number of about 30000, here Roman still got burned out, and so three times more than under the Union, and if you add up the FSB there are about 200000 employees, the Russian Guard 350000, then I don’t know how many healthy, strong men, it seemed like such a striking fist of any internal enemies of the state in the master's horn and oligarchs, and half-finished thieves in law of Georgian and Armenian appearance, and radicals of all stripes,,, but something doesn’t work.... And hundreds of billions of rubles are lost to support what and why.... Strong men would use them in the national economy...

[ccsr]

Quote: Ivan Kolodin

Well, for comparison, in the 9th department, where the FSO grew, there were 9000,

I will believe this figure - I think that this was the case in Soviet times, if we take into account the entire personnel of the KGB.

Quote: Ivan Kolodin

Under Kerzhakov, about 15.000 worked.

He wanted to take over some services, but as far as I understand, the FSB regained what was taken from it earlier, which is why I think that the FSO has become smaller than in Soviet times, if only because there are fewer protected persons, i.e. To. the union republics fell away. So Skomorokhov pulled his figure out of thin air, and I have no doubt about it.

Quote: Ivan Kolodin

and if you count the FSB there are about 200000 employees,

I think this figure is also greatly overestimated, because... During Soviet times, fewer people served in the KGB.

[Radical]

I hope that there are enough reliable officers in Russia. Ordinary, not gold-plated.

Like the ones that hit the Supreme Soviet with tank guns in 1993? True, their fate later was unenviable, except for their commander, who received the Hero of the Russian Federation (October 7, 1993) - “for courage and heroism shown during a special task,” and is now in chocolate. Did you mean them?

[Alexander S.]

It makes sense to talk about something when 30% of the population goes to the polls...and those are mostly ardent supporters of Putin and United Russia (we must give them credit for this). Who to vote for? Not for Putin..new or old..Medvedev..Grudinin, etc. We must vote for the president...for the leader.

[Oleg1]

Quote: Alexander S.

It makes sense to talk about something when 30% of the population goes to the polls...and those are mostly ardent supporters of Putin and United Russia (we must give them credit for this). Who to vote for? Not for Putin..new or old..Medvedev..Grudinin, etc. We must vote for the president...for the leader.

It is not true:
The maximum turnout at federal level elections (not including repeat and by-elections) in the Russian Federation was 69,81% in the 2008 Presidential Elections of the Russian Federation. AM Medvedev won with a result of 52 votes (530%). In the same elections, the maximum number of voters voted in absolute terms; the number of ballots issued was 712.
High turnout

The turnout in the Russian presidential election after counting more than 90% of the ballots was more than 67%, the Central Election Commission said. This is higher than the turnout in the 2012 elections - then 65,34% of voters came to the polls.

Read more at RBC:
https://www.rbc.ru/politics/19/03/2018/5aabd85d9a79477e419929be

[Oleg1]

By the way, what a touching unity in the desire to remove Putinidze, the State Department, ultra-liberals and emo-communists by any means. I wonder who is the main one in this “holy” trinity and who are just free or unwilling mercenaries?

[faterdom]

Quote: Oleg1

By the way, what a touching unity in the desire to remove Putinidze, the State Department, ultra-liberals and emo-communists by any means. I wonder who is the main one in this “holy” trinity and who are just free or unwilling mercenaries?

Option "zero". Replacing the first is advisable if it causes shock and awe in the first, the disappearance of the second by any means, I can’t say anything about the third - I don’t know who they are...
Only so that those who want to live in Russia benefit, so that their children and grandchildren live in Russia, and so that they have a good and comfortable life in Russia. And we would simply erase from our memory the rights to own enterprises, buildings and lands here who fled to London.

[Oleg1]

Quote: faterdom

Quote: Oleg1

By the way, what a touching unity in the desire to remove Putinidze, the State Department, ultra-liberals and emo-communists by any means. I wonder who is the main one in this “holy” trinity and who are just free or unwilling mercenaries?

Option "zero". Replacing the first is advisable if it causes shock and awe in the first, the disappearance of the second by any means, I can’t say anything about the third - I don’t know who they are...
Only so that those who want to live in Russia benefit, so that their children and grandchildren live in Russia, and so that they have a good and comfortable life in Russia. And we would simply erase from our memory the rights to own enterprises, buildings and lands here who fled to London.

Emo-communists, who don’t you know? These are the ones who shout that he is supposedly a communist, that he is for the USSR, but in fact he is shaking the situation in the interests of the City on the Hill....willingly or unwittingly, and yes, in Marxism, with all the crackling phrases -)...
For example, such people were also called leftists, and Lenin and Stalin, without the slightest doubt, smeared their foreheads with brilliant green.

[NordUral]

Well, at the same time (a beautiful move, by the way, I appreciated) he blamed the problem on the governors.

Well, at the same time (a beautiful move, by the way, I appreciated) he left...

[Dedbarabed]

I read all the comments and again in my head Tyutchev: “You can’t understand Russia with your mind...”. Indeed, with such a bizarre, unpredictable character of its own people, the country would not have withstood a single test and would have entered piecemeal into countries with strong earthly laws and pragmatic, uncomplicated peoples. Surprisingly, we have existed for a thousand years and have even constantly grown over vast territories. We successfully create and also successfully subvert idols, and we leave not a single one of them in our memory slandered or debunked. For example, the founding fathers of the United States remain forever among Americans as pillars of patriotism and bearers of the national spirit. We (the ruling class, of course) are trying to erase the greatest savior of Russia, Stalin, from the people’s memory and are shamefully hiding it from the people with plywood shields. Lenin's Mausoleum during public holidays. Is there a Supreme Court to condemn these attacks on the consciousness of the people and their self-identification!? Now Putin is a target for condemnation, slander and uncontrollable anger among dissatisfied people of all stripes, although it was he who recently pulled Russia out of the darkness of decay and poverty. But the time of troubles came again, and the people again wanted a new idol, so that they could trample it later in the next disaster. And, most importantly, each of us individually carries a destructive gene, driving us into panic, ruthless criticism and despair. Where is our fault!? You know, when I see yellow vests on the streets of Paris, I feel terribly ashamed of my people.

[flicker]

Now Putin is a target for condemnation, slander and uncontrollable anger among dissatisfied people of all stripes, although it was he who recently pulled Russia out of the darkness of decay and poverty.

“He pulled Russia out of the darkness of decay and poverty” - he didn’t pull it out so that it would be destroyed by a bunch of maddened people.
But only a distraught part of the people can destroy their state. An example is Ukraine, where a distraught part of the people fought so actively against Yanukovych that in the end they practically finished off Ukraine.

If in Russia a distraught (cheesy) bunch of people try to repeat the “feat” of Svidomo, they will receive “Tiananmen”, with the approval of the majority of the people... the people who are now plowing 24/7, who conscientiously observe the self-isolation regime, which cannot be stupefied by various grant eaters, grant suckers and Russophobic ghouls.

[Dwellernet]

Quote: Overlock

power block - they're holding on for now.

I have many friends, mostly former riot police, who had great respect for Putin. Their main arguments were:
1. He stopped the war in the Caucasus (almost everyone he knew fought there).
2. Started paying pensions and increased salaries for the military and security forces.
And now you ask them about Putin, and the answer is nothing but obscenities.

[Oleg1]

Quote: NordUral

Well, at the same time (a beautiful move, by the way, I appreciated) he blamed the problem on the governors.

Well, at the same time (a beautiful move, by the way, I appreciated) he left...

Ahhhh, we don’t have federalism, Putin has taken over all the powers.
Has Putin given powers to the subjects? AHHHH! blamed the problem on the governors.

PS, well, either remove the cross or....

[impostor]

Here the Chatlans began arguing about who could become the ideal national leader? Real, not from the elites, current ones or partocratic Soviet ones, fair, inseparable from the flesh of the people? I have great respect for the words of Svarog and other left-wing comrades. But for me it’s like this - I’m for Sasha Zakharchenko, forgive me, guys, and may he rest in heaven. For whom did he pose the greatest threat - he, a simple man, one of ours, the salt and conscience of the miners and, indeed, the common people in general?

[Gardamir]

I don’t know which one is needed, but...
Gorbachev, if he had not started perestroika, would still be Secretary General. There is no need to tell you that changes are overdue. It was Gorbachev who started it, and it worked out. That he did not rule such a country, but betrayal is sweeter. I would remain the ruler of a Great Country than wander around German boutiques.
Putin, having read Ogonyok in the late 80s, remained with this knowledge. The country has gone far. and he still lives with the knowledge of the late twentieth century.
Purely theoretically. Like Robinson Crusoe, I would develop Russia so that I could live and rule here. After all, being a ruler, all the wealth is mine.

[KSVK]

Quote: EvilLion

I'm surprised that Putin tolerates you at all,

That's right, smear green paint on everyone's forehead! To everyone who disagrees.

[flicker]

They say he is afraid of a coup and overthrow.

Someone else should be afraid.

Pisarchuk is paid for the result; if there is no result, then the Pisarchuk is handed over with a bang. Because it didn't live up to expectations.

Rome does not pay traitors!

[nikvic46]

In my opinion, no one took this topic seriously. Since time immemorial, Russia has become accustomed to living under long-term rule. Whether this is good or bad is not for me to decide. We are accustomed to relying on the voice from above. But it is important for a leader to hear smart ideas from below, and not just from those around him. We can talk about reforms in China in any way. All of them are attributed to Deng Xiaoping. But he did not hold a leadership position in the country.

[Radical]

I repeat. I am not opposed to Vladimir Putin-2024 becoming president again. But so that it was the president of the model not in 2020, but in 2002.

I want to live well. No matter what.

There was a saying that used to go around at one time - it’s a joke! There were these words there: “These Bolsheviks are strange people,” and then there was some text. And yet - I remembered the girl, performed by Dyuzheva, from the film "Pokrovsky Gates" - "I'm all so sudden, so contradictory...!

[Radical]

Quote: Gardamir

I don’t know which one is needed, but...
Gorbachev, if he had not started perestroika, would still be Secretary General. There is no need to tell you that changes are overdue. It was Gorbachev who started it, and it worked out. That he did not rule such a country, but betrayal is sweeter. I would remain the ruler of a Great Country than wander around German boutiques.
Putin, having read Ogonyok in the late 80s, remained with this knowledge. The country has gone far. and he still lives with the knowledge of the late twentieth century.
Purely theoretically. Like Robinson Crusoe, I would develop Russia so that I could live and rule here. After all, being a ruler, all the wealth is mine.

Colleague, you are assessing the situation in the country and the world in a somewhat simplified way... .

[Radical]

Quote: KSVK

Quote: EvilLion

I'm surprised that Putin tolerates you at all,

That's right, smear green paint on everyone's forehead! To everyone who disagrees.

Please clarify - for what disagreement should everyone be smeared on the forehead? Couldn’t it happen that, on the contrary, they organize a spot on your forehead?

[Radical]

Quote: flicker

They say he is afraid of a coup and overthrow.

Someone else should be afraid.

Pisarchuk is paid for the result; if there is no result, then the Pisarchuk is handed over with a bang. Because it didn't live up to expectations.

Rome does not pay traitors!

Primitive - where were you trained, liberal patriot?

[ROBIN-SON]

Quarantine will be lifted on April 22. Agree on oil. Dollar 72 rubles. People rush to work. Everything is happy. Life has improved. Popular vote after the May holidays. 72% approve of the amendments. Summer season, holidays. In the fall there is a crisis. Romance.

[wellaut]

Quote: depressant

Overlock, well, they made me excited! )) I started reading the quote - really? — did Putin really have such thoughts?!? And then I read: Lee Kuan Yew. recourse

There was a continuation of this quote: "... but since the second path was already taken, I went along the first"

[evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru]

The author of the article raises serious questions. And necessary ones. It's time to think about this.
This inadequate state of the Republic of Kazakhstan (Capitalist Russia) will no longer be saved by anyone or anything. It's time for him to go away.
Putin was warned in advance in good Russian. ,,It went into one ear and came out of the other. Or: “At least there’s a stake on the head of silence.” Why? Because he is just a person (rougher, but more accurately - a talking head, nothing personal) of his class - the big bourgeoisie. Moreover, a significant percentage of representatives of this class have nothing to do with RUSSIA (the drunken White Guards did well - “racey”). As it is customary to say now: “from the word “absolutely.” Doesn't have it. And they are not interested in the fate of this country. They are not interested in anything at all. They have a slightly flawed worldview. Remember how some cartoon “bai” sang: “Water murmurs - my water, tanga flows - my tanga... ,, . ALL! ,,Ceiling,, .
And we live here. They won’t think or do anything for us. Where are all these, excuse me, ,, polluted, ,, globalists, ,, UN, , ,, EU,, , ,, Davos,, , ,, Sorosyatinites,, capital,, Masons,,... They give you a lot of ginger and lemons and toilet paper with antiseptic ,, planted ,,?
For a MAN, it is clearer than clear: a swamp has been discovered ahead - don’t go there and don’t drag people with you!
The Republic of Kazakhstan and the People's Republic of China began reforms at the same time. But in the PRC, having allowed the capitalist sector in the economy, in politics they turned out to be faithful to SOCIALISM. That is such OPF, which provides for the state's care for ALL social groups (classes). But our former chewing gum sellers at school decided to play capitalism. Their desire, naturally, was supported by all the leading intelligence services in the world.
Former Russian-speaking black marketeers never even thought about the fact that Russians were thoroughly tired of “capitalism” by the second half of the XNUMXth century! I'm really, really tired of it. Even then the Red Banner was raised. Long before the emergence of the RSDLP -RKP（b）-VKP（b）...
These C-grade students had no idea that the WHOLE world learned from Soviet Russia in the first quarter of the XNUMXth century. The whole world then learned with surprise that riding on a MAN’s neck is a shameful and inappropriate activity. Worthy only of “ordinary non-humans”.
We need to stop this idiotic game of market relations as quickly as possible. This is a question of the country’s survival, a question of maintaining its defense capability, a question of preserving Russia within its current borders

[Phoenix040]

It is quite obvious that the new president should be looked for outside the sects of lovers of the USA and the drunkard Boris

[Revival]

# helpless and useless

[72jora72]

Where in a month thousands of employees of small enterprises that were ruined by then will go, Vladimir Vladimirovich is clearly not very interested. And they will have nowhere to go.

You don’t need to follow examples; personally, I have a lot of people around me, completely at a loss from what to live on this suddenly fallen month. An employer (as Putin said) is required to pay a salary. And the point.

Who will pay her seamstress in the studio? Shoe repairman? Auto mechanic? To the tire worker?

The answer was given in the program “Evening in Solovyov”, where Mr. Solovyov (and he is the mouthpiece of the current government) and his experts convinced everyone that small and medium-sized businesses, in principle, are not particularly needed, they do not supply anything for export, and there are no taxes You won’t get much from them.

[Gromovanton]

I agree with many things; this situation alone underscores the current problem: we do not have the power and resources to resolve issues locally, either in the regions or at the city level. village... And the fact that he doesn’t personally participate is both bad and good... But the problem is that there is no management system independent of the president. I don’t understand why and why they decided to do everything at the expense of the self-employed, individual entrepreneurs and medium-sized businesses.
So the problem is not in Putin, and not in the name of who will be elected, but in the state management system... And there is simply a problem with it... And elections in the current version are a game of roulette. And what’s the point of choosing if you can’t remove them from work later? And of course, for the people to participate in governing the country, it is simply necessary to get out of poverty = when you only think about debts and what to live on, it has no time for state issues and time is needed to be devoted to reading the bill, government resolution, and when a person works hard , what happens is that you worked, came, ate and slept = that’s all governing the country...

[Alexfly]

Over the 20 years of GDP’s rule, not a single independent power structure has been created, except for the vertical of power, which, in fact, creates (although rather kills responsibility in a person) irresponsibility; is it possible to do anything without HE not approving..... How similar this all is to the time of Soviet party members... Everyone is waiting, the people are suffering, but they are not shot for it... As a rule, the lack of effective rotation in the system of government officials gives rise to lobbying groups for the interests of small-town bosses.....

[Oleg1]

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Give the data of an independent agency, see, listen, if you do not have them, then better keep quiet ....

Just look at the number of likes and dislikes under the last speeches, read the comments, and then think and draw conclusions, it's not difficult.

Thank God they don’t elect us based on likes and dislikes... PS I’d especially like to know how many likes there are from Ukrainushka...