Poland may refuse to purchase American fighter F-35A

Poland may refuse to purchase fifth-generation American fighter F-35s against the backdrop of the global coronavirus pandemic. This was stated by Minister of State Assets of the Republic Jacek Sasin on the air of RMF FM radio station.

According to the minister, the Polish government will analyze the need for the acquisition of American F-35 fighters against the backdrop of the economic crisis caused by the spread of coronavirus. But to date, no decision has been made to abandon the F-35, he stressed.

There is currently no decision to refuse this purchase. We will see. Today we still do not know many things. We know that there will be a crisis, but we do not know how deep and long it will be.

- said Sasin.

The Polish Ministry of Defense signed an agreement to supply 32 American F-35A fighters on January 31 this year. The contract value amounted to $ 4,6 billion. In addition to supplying the aircraft themselves, it includes training for Polish pilots, supply of flight simulators, as well as logistics support. Poland will receive the first F-35s in 2026, with delivery scheduled for 2030.

As previously reported, in September last year, the US Congress approved the sale to Poland of 32 F-35A fighters. The preliminary cost of the order was $ 6,5 billion, but Warsaw apparently managed to lower the cost of the contract during the negotiations.

According to the statement of the Polish Minister of Defense, the acquisition of fifth-generation F-35 aircraft will enhance the combat capabilities of F-16 aircraft and completely get rid of "worn-out Soviet aircraft without combat value." We are talking about the MiG-29 and Su-22 standing in service with the Polish Air Force.

To date, the Polish Air Force has 27 MiG-29s, as well as 48 F-16s and 18 Su-22s.

Comments

[cniza]

We know that there will be a crisis, but we do not know how deep and long it will be.

E.S. will close the faucet for sure and that's all ...

[4ekist]

Buy- Do not buy. Why on this occasion break their brains, it's their business.

[Tatyana]

Poland may refuse to purchase American fighter F-35A

Refuse?!!!
But who in Washington will allow Poland to do this ?!
After that, the whole collaborationist leadership of Poland will fly head over heels from their places!

[boriz]

It just dawned on the psheks that the hegemon was blown away.

[Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)]

it came to psheks in the early 80s. And then the hegemon self-dissolved. But where does the F-35?

[boriz]

The purchase of this strange and "golden" aircraft is the image and financial support of the hegemon, in exchange for military and political support.
Now it became clear to them that the purchase of the F-35 is financially overwhelming and very doubtful in the military. And the hope of support from the hegemon is increasingly illusory.

[Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)]

What an interesting world you live in.
I am waiting for stories about the MIG-35 / Su-35 insanely useful militarily that the Poles would need to buy.

[Nosgoth]

Do not wishful thinking

[Kasym]

Not quite so, Andrey. The Polish Air Force (pros) wanted "until recently" to modernize the MiG-29. This was in their statements at the end of November 2019. At the same time, they refused to modernize the F-16, considering it a futile business. But the politicians decided to buy the F-35.
On the other hand, EU aid was € 11 billion annually. But with the exit of England from the union, the Poles will wait for Fin. no help from anywhere (London gave most of the subsidies and always took care of Warsaw, since the Second World War and the Kraeva army). Moreover, the Poles began to blackmail the EU that if there is no financial assistance, they will leave the European Union. So the deal for the F-35 will be "landmark".

[orionvitt]

Quote: 4ekist

Buy- Do not buy. Why on this occasion break their brains, it's their business.

There was nothing to ring the whole world, What now, as we buy, but everything is the newest, the most modern. As we put Russia on our knees now, everyone will know how cool Poland is. And now everything turns out, the ball was blown away and the music did not play for a long time. They will continue to sit with "worn out Soviet aircraft that have no combat value." With which I congratulate them. "According to Senka and a hat".

[grandfather_Kostya]

Buying f-35 during the global crisis is very useful - what will fly on hungry Europe in search of the last bag of potatoes.

[mitroha]

These are the echoes of the rejection of the f-35 US ILC. If they don’t have enough money, the Poles thought, then they’ll let us in the world

[Chervonny]

they can think and even express their thoughts loudly, but they certainly will not be able to refuse a purchase from their owner f-35.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Mitroha

These are echoes of the rejection of the f-35 US ILC

The ILC of the USA did not refuse from the F-35 and does not refuse

[mitroha]

Quote: Gregory_45

Quote: Mitroha

These are echoes of the rejection of the f-35 US ILC

The ILC of the USA did not refuse from the F-35 and does not refuse

According to the general, the acquisition of the new F-35s is a big question ...
Budget constraints do not allow the maintenance of very expensive fighters and pay for their flights ...
https://topwar.ru/169588-morskaja-pehota-ssha-o-prichinah-vozmozhnogo-otkaza-ot-f-35-i-tankov-abrams.html
Failure due to insufficient funding, high cost of aircraft and maintenance

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Mitroha

Failure due to insufficient funding, high cost of aircraft and maintenance

I read this article, and it is not about abandoning the aircraft, but complaints about the lack of financing of the ILC, which is why the marines are forced to prioritize the acquisition of equipment, trimming (but not giving up) plans for the purchase of the F-35V.
Even the article is called

US Marine Corps named the reasons for the possible failure from a large number F-35

, not from an airplane at all.

Also, there was an article on the site (https://topwar.ru/169685-minoborony-ssha-zakazalo-postavku-dopolnitelnyh-78-istrebitelej-f-35.html), which spoke about the additional agreement of the military department with Lockheed Martin about the delivery additional cars, and Lightning for KMP appear in the expense items

The Pentagon has signed an additional agreement for the supply of 78 fifth-generation fighters, including 48 F-35A for the US Air Force, 14 F-35B fighters for the KMP and 16 carrier-based F-35C fighters for the Navy.

[TermNachTer]

Psheki, as always, wanted "to the ball". And then they said that "balls" will not be.

[Pete mitchell]

let me: Germany...

Quote: cniza

... block the tap for sure and that's it ...

No wonder the Scandinavians reproach the Germans for construction financial reich

[Lipchanin]

Poland may refuse to purchase the fifth-generation American fighter F-35 amid the global coronavirus pandemic

Come on
They themselves said that they liked the outlying MiG-29 with the MU index

[Gennady Fomkin]

The Ministry of National Defense of Poland recommended that the Offset Committee refuse to enter into a set-off agreement related to the acquisition of F-35 fighters under the Harpia program, Defense24.pl learned. The American proposals did not meet the needs of Poland and would entail too high costs, says Colonel Jacek Nice, director of the netting department of the Ministry of National Defense in an interview with Defense24.pl.

Full translation of the article in the Polish military journal Defense24. Explanation:
An offset transaction is a type of compensation transaction when purchasing imported products, the essential condition of which is to meet counter requirements for investing part of the amount of the contract in the economy of the importing country. On the impudent cunning Polish face they do not want to get?

[Avior]

This was discussed here.
This Jacek was not talking about buying aircraft, but about a contract for a service system.

[Thrifty]

Trump, and the apple empire refuses to buy 64 F35! ! Put them on sight, and the guilty on the galleys !!!

[Chervonny]

Trump will definitely tell them: if you do not buy our F-35s, I will not leave Germany from you. they’ll immediately buy it, the Poles really want to see permanent US bases on their land.

[Cheldon]

Fu, fu, dog krev, the owner will be unhappy.

[knn54]

No AWACS / AWACS aircraft, no tankers, no reconnaissance aircraft, no electronic warfare aircraft. France and the FRG are not eager to buy the F-35 .. Yes, and Ukraine, with the modernization of their MiG-29s, finally "convinced" the Poles that it is too early to part with the latter.

[Gennady Fomkin]

uncle - buy a brick! "

[Ryaruav]

as soon as the time comes for the return of EU loans and the IMF, the Polish economy will be blown away like a balloon

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ryaruav

as soon as the time comes for the return of EU loans and the IMF, the Polish economy will be blown away like a balloon

.... and they will no longer be up to FU

[Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)]

Banks do not trust you so much that you still do not have loans? Do you think there in the end you have to pay the whole amount at once?

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Ryaruav

as soon as the time comes for repayment of EU loans and ..

So Poland is just now changing its status from EU beneficiary countries в EU donor country and they don't like it oh

[Evdokim]

Someone from the Anglo-Axes like Churchill used to say: "If you want to ruin the country, give it a couple of battleships." So the Poles will buy the F-35, but there will not be enough money for repairs, flying, servicing, ammunition.
PS Force a lot, little help.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Evdokim

PS Force a lot, little help.

But then hegemon kissed

[Ryaruav]

Evdokim this country throughout history mainly consisted of a gentry arrogant forceless headless

[Chervonny]

Americans don’t care, the main thing is that the Poles take the F-35, and there even the grass does not grow. Americans will find what to take from the Poles as payment for planes.

[Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)]

Quote: Red

Americans will find what to take from the Poles as payment for planes

How long have Americans been selling palm oil planes?

[svp67]

Not enough money for "Lightning", they will take the worn-out "Falcons" and "Hornets"

[Lipchanin]

Quote: svp67

take the shabby Falcons and Hornets

This is how many apples you need to sell to buy at least one "Hornet"
Poor workers

[svp67]

Quote: Lipchanin

Poor workers

Yes, Americans give away old things for free, you only pay for repairs and training ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: svp67

Yes, Americans give away old things for free, you only pay for repairs and training ...

But the outskirts of migrant workers will collect apples on them
So striped any rubbish know how to fuse.
Remember the troughs they fused to the non-brothers

[parusnik]

Poland may refuse to purchase fifth-generation American fighter aircraft F-35 amid the global coronavirus pandemic.

"Oats are expensive now" (c)

[Chervonny]

Poles and F-35s will be bought and American will build military bases at their own expense if they leave Germany, and they will pay for the American military presence in Poland.

[iouris]

Well, that is unlikely. This will mean that Poland declared war on the States.

[Doccor18]

Oh, if it doesn’t work out and it will be insulting, I really wanted to rattle my arms

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Doccor18

Oh, if it doesn’t work out and it will be insulting, I really wanted to rattle my arms

You gotta have these rattles

[Yang yangov]

sometimes it seems to me ... that Polshcha is dirt under the feet of European soldiers.

[Kushka]

Well, let it continue to seem. And this Poland, if its tons, about 500 years
(not a connoisseur of history, litter) lives and seems to live foul.

[shadow]

Or maybe they can’t buy because now there are no airplanes. Why not? Because the factories are closed. If anyone does not understand, I remind you that the F-35 is being created all over the world, including in Italy. Well, what is going on in Italy, and so you all know.

[NF68]

Then the United States will not count Poland deflection.

[Incvizitor]

This "girl" has already been paid, so it will break for the sake of appearance and agree.

[Victor March 47]

This is what the LIVING VIRUS can do. Even these forgive tutu may appear something like a mind.

[Vadim02rus]

Some lyrics)

[Dmitry Potapov]

It is not for Poland to decide! The owner of the harem will say so and will be! "And if they do not take it, turn off the gas!

[gurzuf]

So tell me - pence is a pity.

[Kushka]

Poland allocated 46 billion bucks for aircraft (Karl, Poland, 46, lard. Bucks!)
Poland has now allocated 46 lards for coronovirus.
It looks like the same money.

[Avior]

Hardly.
Aircraft purchases will be starting in 2026, obviously not the money that was allocated now

[Kushka]

I thought they wanted to intercept the Turkish portion, using the moment,
those. by the 26th deal, close completely by aircraft.
Moreover, I do not understand where they got 46 x 2.

[Avior]

For f-35, it’s the turn for years, Poland is almost at the end of the list, first put to those who participated in the development and ordered initially
Formally, the first will be in 2024, staff will be trained in the states, deliveries will begin directly to Poland from 2026.
But there, too, more than one batch, supplies are stretched.
In addition, you have an eyelid not 46, but 4,6 billion, which is much less

[Kushka]

You are right, thanks!

[rocket757]

An empty chatter, an empty people where a lot of power.

[Stalllker]

Did this flying hemorrhoids get sick of it ?! And in times of war, they won’t even have time to get into the air

[Ros 56]

Here are the Poles, well, real men, at first they gave the floor to purchase the F-35, then they took the word back. Here is an example of a true independent state.

[Viktor Sergeev]

It's not gonna go. Firstly, who asks the serf, secondly, kickbacks have already been received. Who will allow Poland to offend the lord?

[Rusfaner]

Who will allow you to refuse, sickly ?!
The hosts will pluck out their tongues with pliers!

[sanik2020]

Maybe only who will allow her to refuse?