The first NATO videoconference ended in scandal

The first in stories The Alliance’s virtual conference of NATO foreign ministers ended in a scandal involving Turkey and Greece. It is reported by the Greek edition of Kathimerini.

According to the publication, representatives of Turkey and Greece traditionally began to blame each other. The cause of the scandal was the death of migrants on the border of the two countries in March this year. Initially, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu accused the Greek side of the deaths of migrants, in response, the head of the Greek Foreign Ministry Nikos Dendias accused Turkey of undermining NATO values. According to him, Ankara is trying to use the situation with migrants for political purposes.

The scandal ended after the Turkish Minister Chavushoglu left the conference ahead of schedule, without even having to wait for the final speech of the Alliance Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg. However, before the demonstrative departure of Turkey, NATO promised to assist the Turks in resolving the crisis in Syria.

According to Stoltenberg, NATO countries will study what can be done to assist Turkey in solving problems in Syria.

Note that the last meeting for the first time in the history of the alliance was held via videoconference due to the global coronavirus pandemic. The meeting was attended by foreign ministers of NATO member countries. The main topic of the conference is NATO's response to the COVID-19 pandemic, the situation in Afghanistan and the activities of the Alliance mission in Iraq.

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[mitroha]

According to Stoltenberg, NATO countries will study what can be done to assist Turkey in solving problems in Syria.

Interestingly, this short-sighted person generally thinks who and by what laws gave NATO the right to help the invaders in the territory of a sovereign state

[Volder]

Stoltenberg, as a leader, escaped with meaningless routine phrases to maintain solidarity and respect. He didn’t say "we will help". He said: "We will study the issue of assistance." You can study for a long time and to no avail, depicting violent activity.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Volder

He said: "We will study the issue of assistance."

What's the difference? He does not have the right to study such a question.
Nobody attacked a country in NATO

[orionvitt]

Quote: Lipchanin

Nobody attacked a country in NATO

Who cares. They "defend" some kind of democracy, which has never existed in those parts from time immemorial, some kind of "people of Syria" from the government legally elected by the same people, they fight some kind of chemical weapons that no one has seen with Assad, and so on, point by point. In general, there is only one slogan - "Assad must leave," but someone attacked NATO, or not, who cares. By the way, before the war, Syria was probably one of the most democratic states in the Middle East, by their standards, of course.

[mitroha]

Quote: Volder

Stoltenberg, as a leader, escaped with meaningless routine phrases to maintain solidarity and respect. He didn’t say "we will help". He said: "We will study the issue of assistance." You can study for a long time and to no avail, depicting violent activity.

Then I propose that BRICS discuss the possibility of helping Venezuela in the United States, but I correctly understood that no one needs to answer for their words?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mitroha

I correctly understood that no one needs to answer for their words?

And they have long been for their not that words, crimes are not responsible

[ZAV69]

Quote: Mitroha

I correctly understood that no one needs to answer for their words?

And at least one politician answered for his words over the past 40 years?

[qpeqop]

Right. Only not Venezuela, but California, which has long been trying to get out of this adder, called the United States.

[knn54]

Let them help in "videoconferencing" mode.

[Alekseev]

Quote: Volder

Stoltenberg, as a leader,

Stoltenberg is no leader. He is rather not a secretary general, but a spokesperson, a talking head. Maybe even a homosexual, now it’s fashionable. NATO is led primarily by the US President. the rest are for the "plezir".

[mitroha]

Quote: Alekseev

Maybe even a homosexual, now it’s fashionable.

Judging by what he voices, regardless of his sexual orientation, the word "may" in your phrase is superfluous

[Chervonny]

Quote: Alekseev

Maybe even a homosexual, now it’s fashionable.

if so, then no one will be surprised. everyone is already used to the fact that they are going crazy in the west from all sorts of perversions.

[16329]

The President of the United States, a rather formal figure, is currently.
George W. Bush, who became famous for his sayings was at least from a decent family, Obama and Trump, as it is difficult to pull on the role of independent politicians.
The United States is governed by a complex set of agreements between leading financial and political groups, why do they need a real independent president
But the NATO Secretary General is generally a formal figure, the speaker of this organization
In reality, like everything else in the West, control takes place through shadow structures

[nickname7]

The President of the United States, a rather formal figure, is currently.

Yes, he is the head of the executive branch, which deals with administrative turnover, plus they have the so-called system of checks and balances, decisions must be approved by a quorum.

[rotkiv04]

The Naglosaksa have a rule - do everything according to the laws until the laws come into conflict with their interests, then they change the laws

[codetalker]

They don’t even change, but do as they need. Its all enemies laws.

[tagil]

Does NATO comply with any laws? They bring peace and democracy throughout the WORLD; laws are not written for them. The most that they then can only regret their mistake after they destroy and plunge the country into chaos, in which their democracy can not take root.

[Chervonny]

Quote: Tagil

Does NATO comply with any laws?

there are no laws for NATO. they have long trampled upon all international law.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mitroha

and this narrow-minded person generally thinks

For her thinking
He only opens his mouth

[Finches]

After the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, NATO's only task is to come up with the task of justifying the existence of NATO!

[Arpad]

Quote: Mobius

In vain we saved them from the raids of Genghis Khan

from raids
saved

[Dart]

yes, save and don’t mock ... the wave of military campaigns of the horde reached them significantly weakened through the Slavic barrier.

[simara]

The “Slavic barrier” silently bowed to the khans and received the right to reign from the hands of the descendants of Genghis Khan, and the Mongols stopped their own confusion and strife.

[Dart]

ek you distort, apparently, not only history ... Before the trip to the khans, there was a series of long years of fierce resistance and ruin in the lands of Russians, which, if they did not hold back, then quenched the outbursts of the horde in your west, in many historical monographs it is accepted as a fact. But your apparently beloved geyropa paws lifted up (full of examples, at least the same France), having received not even a slap in the face, but a click on the nose. - and this is also a fact.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Mitroha

According to Stoltenberg, NATO countries will study what can be done to assist Turkey in solving problems in Syria.

Interestingly, this short-sighted person generally thinks who and by what laws gave NATO the right to help the invaders in the territory of a sovereign state

NATO will not be able to help the Turks. Hospitals, they all engage in epidemics ...

[Pereira]

For Stoltenberg’s salary, I’m ready to carry an even more fierce snowstorm.

[sedoj]

Quote: Mitroha

Interestingly, this short-sighted person generally thinks who and by what laws gave NATO the right to help the invaders in the territory of a sovereign state

Well, Duc, video conferencing first, then video help.

[Serwid]

Quote: Mitroha

Interestingly, this short-sighted person generally thinks who and by what laws gave NATO the right to help the invaders in the territory of a sovereign state

This narrow-minded person is a simple talking head on which nothing depends. Like Solana in '99.

[Terenin]

Well how can

Quote: Mitroha

this narrow-minded person

on video conferencing

Quote: Mitroha

generally thinks

a fortiori

Quote: Mitroha

in solving the problems of Turkey in Syria.

[Nikolai Korovin]

It would be strange to think that he generally thinks. Voiced manuals, that's his whole role. Zits Chairman Pound.

[Grits]

Quote: Mitroha

Interestingly, this short-sighted person generally thinks who and by what laws gave NATO the right to help the invaders in the territory of a sovereign state

They think this is perfectly normal. Therefore, in their cerebellum there will never be a thought that it could be different. And there will never be a concept of conscience, justice, honesty. This is not inherent in the mentality of Western countries.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Mitroha

According to Stoltenberg, NATO countries will study what can be done to assist Turkey in solving problems in Syria.

Interestingly, this short-sighted person generally thinks who and by what laws gave NATO the right to help the invaders in the territory of a sovereign state

I generally doubt that this person, Jens Stoltenberg is thinking something.
He has a different function - he is the Talking Head.
Lyrics are written to him in advance - and he obediently opens his mouth ...
Did Greece and Turkey quarrel?
Eka is unseen!
They would have called Israel and Palestine into an alliance ...

[Dron_sk]

Quote: Mitroha

According to Stoltenberg, NATO countries will study what can be done to assist Turkey in solving problems in Syria.

Interestingly, this short-sighted person generally thinks who and by what laws gave NATO the right to help the invaders in the territory of a sovereign state

If you haven’t understood yet, they will not recognize any laws other than those that they themselves have invented. And when it comes to protecting one’s own interests and opposing an adversary / competitor, they can easily begin to interpret their own laws in a two-faced manner, if this is required specifically in this situation.
Syria, in my opinion, is not a sovereign state as long as there is ruled by an objectionable to them Assad, whom they expose as a dictator. And no matter how much your commentary scores pluses, the NATO opinion will not change from this.

[iouris]

Quote: Mitroha

who and what laws gave NATO the right

There are two options: either you are a "great power" or "international law" and its violations.

[Prisoner]

You might think for the first time they commit such crimes. Eta nata, walking in the wake of a pirate's office called the United States.

[rocket757]

Solve the problems of Turkey in Syria ???
Maybe Perov is not correct or the writer "distorted" the text?
Otherwise, it turns out that the nosy again crawls to where she was not called. This is actually a crime under all international laws!
Although, they have a herald and not very clever, dur / A / k, in fact the very assassin is a gangster organization ... there really is one, we will call it as it deserves.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: rocket757

This is actually a crime under all international laws!

Yes, urgently convene the UN Security Council.
Although it won’t help, it’s also impossible to be silent

[cniza]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: rocket757

This is actually a crime under all international laws!

Yes, urgently convene the UN Security Council.
Although it won’t help, it’s also impossible to be silent

What can he decide? nothing ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: cniza

What can he decide? nothing ...

And I said so. But one must not be silent either. See who says what there

[cniza]

And we are not silent, but we put the papers in daddy and the case is already swelling, the trial will take place sooner or later ...

[Lelek]

Quote: cniza

What can he decide? nothing ...

Victor.
Especially if we take into account the crackling that comes from the "hut" called the European Union:

[cniza]

Already, NATO is cracking, and the UN has become a dummy ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: cniza

and the UN turned into a dummy ...

Has long been

[Lipchanin]

In Italy, the flags of the European Union are destroyed everywhere

[rocket757]

Most likely, empty chores. But, they want for show, you can launch the topic .... but here's how to inflate it to a noticeable scale !!! not yet.

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: rocket757

This is actually a crime under all international laws!

Yes, urgently convene the UN Security Council.
Although it won’t help, it’s also impossible to be silent

What can he decide? nothing ...

Victor, why nothing? After Stoltenberg urged Russia to "relax" he may well make a decision for himself - "to be in a pose"

[rocket757]

When the world can cope with the infection, the time will come to rake the rest, the most urgent .... nobody will remember about the secretary’s fasting and chatterbox. Not up to him.

[major147]

Quote: rocket757

This is actually a crime under all international laws!

And when it stopped them. The right of the strong ... Until they run into another strong.

[rocket757]

It has long been understood that power rules the world!
It would be worth it to draw conclusions and work in this direction .... difficult, and who will do it, the question!

[Valery Valery]

One of the reasons for European countries to join NATO is to obtain at least minimal guarantees of preserving sovereignty by entering into an alliance with countries that can destroy this sovereignty. Fools......

[svp67]

Even at the videoconference they managed to "give a shit" ... This is "unity"

[Lipchanin]

NATO countries will learn what can be done to help Turkey solve problems in Syria.

In the territory of another sovereign state !!!!
What does NATO have to do with Syria ???? Did Syria attack Turkey? Occupied her ???
This is the height of arrogance and cynicism.
Here we sit. For example, with Belarus and start discussing, only discuss what to do with the outskirts, this will begin ....

[Oquzyurd]

"Did Syria attack Turkey?" In the form of refugees, 4 million are already in Turkey, 1,5 have stuck to the border, 2 more Leamas are ready to join this 1,5 at any time.
It must be added that it is also arrogance and cynicism, to hide these facts, not to see, not to hear.
And yet, "On the territory of another, sovereign state !!!!
What NATO has to do with Syria ???? Did Syria attack Turkey? Occupied ??? "For 26 years we have not seen such indignation against Armenia, which has occupied the territory of Azerbaijan. We have never seen such indignation. Conscience and truth should not be selective, whether it is there or not.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Oquzyurd

For 26 years, we have not seen such indignation regarding Armenia, which occupied the territory of Azerbaijan.

Armenia says the same thing.
Maybe you’ll figure out who whom.
And here is an undisguised, clear occupation

[Oquzyurd]

"Armenia says the same thing.
Maybe you’ll figure out who whom.
And then there is an undisguised, obvious occupation. "The troops of Armenia are located in the territories of Azerbaijan and all over the world these lands are legally recognized for Azerbaijan. Is it not an overt and undisguised occupation? Call a spade a spade. We are close, lived together for 200 years, to this day we are all in the CIS. Why is the territorial integrity of distant Syria, who did not live with us for one minute in one country, so fiercely emphasized? And when it comes to Azerbaijan - "Maybe you will figure out who will "+ finger threats, God forbid you will fight, keep the status quo. We are waiting for 26 years, we are waiting to finally put an end to this hypocrisy.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Oquzyurd

We ourselves will figure out who is who, but we must equally approach the occupation, and call a spade a spade.

I repeat once again, in the USSR they did not consider who lived on whose land. So figure it out yourself. And the argument "The whole world knows" is an empty phrase for me. Who just whines this mantra.
And I emphasize the territorial integrity of Syria because they asked for our help and our soldiers are fighting there.
Once "The whole world is with you", get your way with "The whole world is with you"

[Oquzyurd]

I did not write that the world is with us, do not distort and do not invent. "All over the world these lands are legally recognized for Azerbaijan," I will add that the Russian Federation also legally recognizes these lands for Azerbaijan.
"And I emphasize the territorial integrity of Syria because," It is understandable, therefore, and it is understandable why our lands are not because.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: Oquzyurd

I did not write that the world is with us, do not distort and do not invent. "All over the world these lands are legally recognized for Azerbaijan," I will add that the Russian Federation also legally recognizes these lands for Azerbaijan.
"And I emphasize the territorial integrity of Syria because," It is understandable, therefore, and it is understandable why our lands are not because.

Question?
You write in Russian and on the Russian site! So to whom do you make a claim! Russia, forum users, Syrians !!!
To be honest, I am not warm and not cold from Nagorno-Karabakh, the love of Azerbaijan or Armenia! Solve your problems yourself, but remember - the Russian Federation will not tolerate the creation of another point of tension near its borders. And I would like to hear from you a grateful “merci” for the Caspian oil-loading union fleet donated by EBN! 26 years since you exploit it, and we suffer!

[Oquzyurd]

"You write in Russian and on a Russian site!", "And I would like to hear from you a grateful" merci "for the oil tanker fleet of the Caspian Sea donated by EBN! 26 years have been how you have been using it, but we tolerate! would have done without you.
Azerbaijan in the USSR was one of the donors, and not a parasite. What they left for Azerbaijan was deservedly even less than what they were supposed to. Look at the other parasites, what you gave them and what you took in return for your cohabitation.

[Nikolai Korovin]

Wrong. Even formally, Azerbaijan was quite substantially subsidized, and taking into account how many Russians worked hard jobs in Azerbaijan, even more so. They did not sweep the sidewalks there. But, of course, Georgia and the Baltics, and Armenia, albeit to a lesser extent, were courted much more strongly. So it seemed to you, in comparison with your neighbors, that you were offended. But in fact, everything, except for Turkmenistan, was only taken from the RSFSR. Least of all - Ukraine. Even Belarus is bigger. But again - the Russians worked in hazardous industries, and the "schiry" rested in the farms with their animals under a wheel with a stork. I saw everything I write about, I know. However, I really respect the Georgian peasants. I know Armenians and Azerbaijanis much worse.

[Nikolai Korovin]

Knowing in practice the Transcaucasian mentality regarding friendship and hostility, I can give advice.

Unite again in the Transcaucasian Federation, on the model of the ZSFSR. Do not forget to invite the Georgians. They will be a consolidating element. You need to understand at the level of village councils in which region there are more Armenians and in which Azerbaijanis. No one will do it for you. Firstly, no one is in the know, and secondly, everyone, except the Russians, is your drummer. But for us, you’re kind of like yours — both of them. But there is no time for Russians now. Wait another 10-15 years - maybe then we will judge you in fairness. But better unite. And it may happen that a fair border will not be much shorter than the borders of the USSR. By the way, what about the Armenian issue in Baku now?

[Oquzyurd]

I am not a few years old, and I remember well that the 3 republics of the USSR were not subsidized and one of them was Azerbaijan.
According to statistics, about 30 thousand Armenians, mostly the wives of Azerbaijanis, live in Baku and some areas (not those areas under the occupation of Armenia), I personally know some. For information, in Armenia (there were 247 thousand Azerbaijanis), in occupied Karabakh and in the occupied seven regions outside Karabakh (total number of about 700 thousand people) not a single Azerbaijanian remained, they drove everyone out to the last. When will you communicate with the Armenians, ask them the same question as they do with the Azerbaijani issue in Yerevan?

[Lena Petrova]

Dear, now you don’t need to remember anything, just drive into the search and look at the signs. Azerbaijan was also a donor, but after 85, it went into the red.

[Oquzyurd]

Yes, I know this. After 85 years, after the prohibition (huge fields of grapes were cut throughout the republic, all production of alcohol, juices, and indirectly related industries went to zero) and perestroika (many plants and factories stood up) Gorbachev. Azerbaijan was part of tsarist Russia from 1828, after, from 1922 to 1992 in the USSR, and 6-7 years minus in recent years the USSR is not comparable with merit, with a return to the general piggy bank for 68-70 years. And under the Tsar, in the Caucasus, it was Azerbaijan (Khanate, then in the form of Provinces) was self-sufficient, at least, did not parasitize.

[Nikolai Korovin]

Jeykhun, naturally, that an Azerbaijanian, in general, will not expel his wife an Armenian. Although, I think, there have been such cases. This is not an indicator. I believe that Azerbaijanis were expelled from Armenia. But what about Baku? By the time of the collapse of the USSR, as I imagine, the population of Baku was somewhere around 1,5 million, maybe more. How many of them were Armenians? I think no less than 300 thousand. And where are they now? So here the mutual insults, who they have more - I can not judge. Here Bagdasarov, perhaps, knows. He, I think, is Armenian, but a citizen of Russia, so his face is somewhat neutral. So consult with him what he thinks. And now there are no Armenians in my sight - on the contrary, there is an Azerbaijani and several Georgians. All almost Russified. But there is no communication. Few connections of the Soviet era have stood the test of time.

[Oquzyurd]

“Perhaps Bagdasarov knows. He, so I believe, is Armenian, but a citizen of Russia, so the person is to some extent neutral.” Forgive me, I laughed heartily.)))) Not because of the text, but for the word "neutral" If it is neutral, then I assure you that I am an astronaut who was not on Mars (this is bullshit), but on Jupiter.
"I believe that Azerbaijanis were expelled from Armenia." Not only were they kicked out, in Armenia, in Yerevan there are no Azerbaijanis, there are none, none of them, everyone was expelled without exception. seven occupied areas, ALL were kicked out, to the last. And you are interested in the Armenian issue in Baku, with "neutral" experts.

[Mikhalych 70]

"... then we will judge you fairly and" I do not want to judge anyone there. And I don't want my children to separate anyone there. In my draft, BB was shot from both sides. And in every village they shouted that we were driving weapons to our neighbors ... Naiks. Vaughn, I propose the Turks with a UN mandate, instead of Syria, send Armenians with Ayzers to separate them. They can do it. But, as one of the movie characters said; "... there are enough knives for everyone. Swallow your fill"

[Nikolai Korovin]

I wrote - "maybe". Promising doesn't mean getting married. To do this, they themselves must settle down there. And to judge - this does not mean to stand between the warring parties under the bullets. Let them come to a formal court, like Nuremberg, with lists of their mutual claims. This citizen is in full swing. You ask him how many Armenians are left in Baku, and he replies that there are no Azerbaijanis left in Armenia. Well, maybe they will cool down a little, begin to understand the questions and give intelligible answers. There are, after all, normal people there. I am sure about that. But their voice is not heard. But we should not forget that during the Great Patriotic War more than 200 thousand Armenians and about 350 thousand Azerbaijanis died at the front. For such relatively small peoples, this is a great sacrifice. This should serve as a basis for reconciliation. They must come to their senses.

[Sergey Sfiedu]

"in the USSR they did not consider who lived on whose land" - for the sake of justice it is worth pointing out that Syria was part of the Ottoman Empire, where all the faithful lived in the land of the sultan and caliph, not really going into nationality. Then they cut it alive. So hotheads in Turkey consider at least the north of Syria to be Turkey, and hotheads in Syria - at least the Alexandret sanjak - Syria. Everything is complicated there. East..

[qpeqop]

Syria has organized checkpoints of civilians on its territory. In Syria itself, no one oppresses civilians; they provide humanitarian assistance and create the conditions for establishing life. But both militants and Turks in every way impede the return of residents, intimidation and reprisals. After all, if residents return to Syria, there will be no reason to annex a piece of foreign territory. Armenia did not occupy the territory of Azerbaijan. Karabakh is legally part of Azerbaijan. Respect for their ethnic identity of the Armenians would be completely fine with them.

[prior]

So much for NATE.
Or maybe this is the beginning of the end at NATa ?!

[Chervonny]

no, this is not the end. NATO will come to an end when Europe builds its combined armed forces.

[Fedorovich]

They would have arranged a conference on Instagram ...

[Chervonny]

wait, they’ll arrange it again. they can.

[Doccor18]

How do they (NATO countries) generally manage to find common ground, they are so different, and their goals are often opposite

[Thrifty]

How to help the Turks? Yes, accept all migrants from Turkey, and transit ones too, give them citizenship, and a hundred thousand euros, for personal happiness!

[Oquzyurd]

Oddly enough, say the right thing ...

[Dart]

it was just a banter ... but for you it is right, so it should be done?

[cniza]

the situation in Afghanistan and the activities of the alliance mission in Iraq.

It seems that your missions are ending, as well as NATO itself ...

[Sergei 23]

Greece and Turkey like two cherries on a cake.

[TermNachTer]

Having such "friends", enemies are no longer needed.

[Victor March 47]

Video chat opens up new possibilities. You can shoot a glass in your opponent, you can spin off by turning off the headphones so as not to hear the answer. You can even show that ..... Progress is a great thing.

[Peter is not the first]

In case of any disagreement between NATO members when the question becomes about the confrontation between Russia, for example in Syria, they immediately agree.

[Ros 56]

Will they also fight in remote mode?

[Roman_vh]

Quote: Pereira

For Stoltenberg’s salary, I’m ready to carry an even more fierce snowstorm.

Yes, for any half, hosh left, hosh right. :)

[Tank jacket]

Video assistance will be provided to Turks

[SeregaBoss]

In the chicken coop, hens quarreled, what was going on!

[Mikhalych 70]

Roosters. The real fighting ah @. Nick didn’t fly anyone.

[Asad]

In short, Turkey is a son of a bitch, but this is our `` son of a bitch ''!

[Sergey Sfiedu]

The Turks were asked, whose "sons" are they, smart guys? In the East, "stab in the back" is not betrayal, but valor, so that many more "wonderful discoveries" await idealists from politics.

[75 Sergey]

So I do not understand, whose is Cyprus?

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Mitroha

According to Stoltenberg, NATO countries will study what can be done to assist Turkey in solving problems in Syria.

Interestingly, this short-sighted person generally thinks who and by what laws gave NATO the right to help the invaders in the territory of a sovereign state

Do you seriously believe that laws work?

[Viktor Sergeev]

Girls do not quarrel. Why argue that? Would blame Russia, we do not get used to.