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"It will shoot at Asian bandits": in Poland, evaluated the Ukrainian MLRS "Alder-M"

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In Ukraine, tests were conducted MLRS Alder-M. For the first time a shell hit a target at a distance of 120 km. The Polish press was quick to give its assessment of the Ukrainian multiple launch rocket system.


As you know, until 2014, the Ukrainian armed forces used MLRS "Smerch" with unguided missiles. After the outbreak of hostilities in the Donbass, the need for a modern multiple launch rocket system, as the Polish press writes, "became especially acute."

Ultimately, the then head of state Petro Poroshenko in January 2016 gave the order to develop a new MLRS as soon as possible. The task was assigned to the design bureau Luch and the Artyom plant.

Surprisingly, despite the difficult economic situation, they created a new complex quickly enough. Already on March 22, 2016, they conducted the first missile tests, on December 22, 2017, they launched at a training ground in the Odessa region, and on August 24, 2018, the first MLRS “Alder” took part in a military parade in honor of Independence Day of Ukraine.

Now Ukrainian developers are busy testing Alder-M, a new launcher, which, unlike the previous version, is designed for a much greater range of target destruction - not up to 70 km, but up to 120 km.

As a result, on March 30 and 31, 2020, Alder-M fire tests were conducted at a missile test site in the Odessa region. Attempts were made to hit the target at a distance of 120 km with gusty winds. Previously, firing was carried out on targets up to 60-70 km.


Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Aleksey Danilov emphasized that the target at a distance of 120 km was hit. However, there is no more accurate information about what the object was as a target and what the deviation from the given coordinates was.

However, at a distance of 120 km, which is characteristic of the current version of the complex, Ukrainians are not going to stop. The next version is planned with a range of up to 200 km. At the same time, a 300-mm unguided rocket, developed back in Soviet times, but undergoing certain changes, including through the introduction of solutions from the space industry of Ukraine, continues to be used.


In addition, the MLRS uses a new guidance system that combines GPS positioning with an inertial system (INS). During the flight, the trajectory is corrected using small impulse engines located in front of the rocket, and aerodynamic rudders are also used in the terminal phase, which provides the possibility of correction until the rocket reaches the target.

However, the reaction of the Polish audience to information about the launch of Alder-M rockets was mixed. One of the commentators in Defense24 turned on the usual anti-Russian barrel organ.

We applaud Ukraine. There will be something to shoot, so as not to spare the Asian terrorist bandits. Russia - Kaput, applaud,

- says one of the commentators.

Another user writes that since Poland does not produce such missiles, it needs to negotiate with Ukraine, obtain a license, or establish joint production of such weapons. Someone Marek writes that back in 2014 it was necessary to acquire the Smerch MLRS and create a similar system on its basis.

But some Poles recalled that Ukraine could hardly be considered Poland’s friendly state.

Let me remind uneducated children: Ukraine was never friendly with Poland and the Poles, even when Pilsudski and Petliura entered into an alliance. It is known that 98% of Ukrainians were hostile to Poland. You can write academic books about the hostility of this people to the Poles,

- writes one of the commentators on the Polish resource.
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  1. faterdom
    faterdom April 3 2020 11: 31 New
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    For the Asian bandits?
    So Hungarians and Turks?
    And why are Ukrainians?
    No, well, if you want - let them shoot ...
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 3 2020 11: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: faterdom
      And why are Ukrainians?


      In Ukraine, tests were conducted MLRS Alder-M. For the first time, a shell hit a target at a distance of 120 km.


      Ukrainian proverb:

      "God forbid, swine, horns"

      ("God forbid, pig, and even horns") ...
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 April 3 2020 11: 47 New
        +4
        Psheks still do not know what to rejoice about.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 3 2020 12: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Psheks still do not know what to rejoice about.

          And how happy they were when they learned about the modification of the MiG-29 to the level of "Mu" laughing
          Immediately wanted the same laughing
          1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 April 3 2020 12: 14 New
            +4
            Or is it better to sever diplomatic and trade ties with Poland?
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin April 3 2020 12: 17 New
              +7
              Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Or is it better to sever diplomatic and trade ties with Poland?

              It is high time. I don’t understand what is the use of them. request
              1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                Nikolay Ivanov_5 April 3 2020 12: 21 New
                +2
                Trade routes, gas transmission system, sales of cosmetic and agricultural products. What we ourselves will not be able to grow, manufacture and create bypassing different networks?
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin April 3 2020 12: 58 New
                  +2
                  Here I am about that. Except for slops, I don’t hear anything from there
              2. major147
                major147 April 3 2020 12: 45 New
                +1
                Quote: Lipchanin
                I don’t understand what is the use of them.

                They have long lost statehood. Enough ambassador to Brussels.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin April 3 2020 12: 57 New
                  +1
                  Quote: major147
                  They have long lost statehood. Enough ambassador to Brussels.

                  Quite enough. And let it chatter from there
            2. polar fox
              polar fox April 3 2020 12: 55 New
              +4
              Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Or is it better to sever diplomatic and trade ties with Poland?

              og. and with everyone else too ... it’s going to be overwhelming! that’s something the familiar Poles don’t carry such a blizzard ... either my environment doesn’t correspond to your perception or everything is not like handshake media write.
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          2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 April 3 2020 12: 43 New
            +1
            Poland sends the main sales of its products to the east and still spoils relations with a large neighbor who can consume her goods. What for?
        2. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer April 3 2020 20: 14 New
          +1
          It seems to mine that their joy is somewhat premature. An experimental installation, not yet accepted for service, was firing. In Banderland, this has already become a habit - a presentation, tests, a lot of noise, and then silence. From what was loudly advertised, only a few reached the troops, so the path is not yet close to the adoption of this wunderwafe. If at all they can bring "to mind".
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 April 13 2020 16: 19 New
            0
            From what was loudly advertised, only a few reached the troops, so the path is not yet close to the adoption of this wunderwafe. If at all they can bring "to mind".

            Not that case. They do not bring anything to mind, but they receive everything from the Old Man.
            Hence, such success in range that all of our MLRS are resting.
            One thing is not clear - accuracy at such a range. Both Belarusians and Ukrainians. hi
            1. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer April 13 2020 18: 42 New
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              Do Belarusians have MLRS of such range? The first time I've heard.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 April 13 2020 19: 08 New
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                Do Belarusians have MLRS of such range? The first time I've heard.

                "Polonaise" is called.
                https://topwar.ru/74920-reaktivnaya-sistema-zalpovogo-ognya-polonez-respublika-belarus.html
              2. TermNachTer
                TermNachTer April 13 2020 19: 10 New
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                So there is only the Belarusian chassis, and the rest is China.
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins April 3 2020 11: 41 New
      +5
      Apparently, you poorly studied literature, and one of the Poles remembers A. Blok:
      "Yes, we are Scythians. Yes, we are Asians ..."
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r April 3 2020 15: 46 New
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        However, at a distance of 120 km, which is characteristic of the current version of the complex, Ukrainians are not going to stop. The next version is planned with a range of up to 200 km
        And then 300, 500, 1000, 10000, to the Moon, to Mars ........... to, to, eeeeeeeee Center of the Universe !!!! wassat laughing tongue
  2. ninguem
    ninguem April 3 2020 11: 34 New
    +6
    Someone from the commentators turned on the usual anti-Russian barrel organ

    in Polish minds Russophobic thoughts are tenacious only because other thoughts come to their mind to die
    1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 April 3 2020 12: 05 New
      0
      So why are they bullied all the time by their shit? That they have few problems? Why seek enmity with neighbors? Why stand on ceremony with them?
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  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins April 3 2020 11: 39 New
    +3
    I should start with Polish sayings, but I remember very well how quite recently, here, on VO, they amicably ridiculed "a water pipe with a gps navigator. Now the articles have changed, and the comments, probably, too?"
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 April 3 2020 11: 50 New
      +5
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Now the articles have changed, and comments, probably too?

      What has changed? Ukrainians as stated and declare .. I’m rolling launchers of Tornado and call it Alder ..
      In the meantime, in the Kaliningrad region, the BM-21 Grad, Tornado-S was replaced in the artillery brigade. With a target range of 120 km ...
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins April 3 2020 11: 57 New
        +2
        So "tornado - s" is the same "alder". Only with a guided missile. But there is a difference - dill have created a rocket. They had no production.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 April 3 2020 13: 02 New
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          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          So "tornado - s" is the same "alder"

          No..T-S is the Russian modernization of the Tornado, I note..adopted.
          Alder is the Ukrainian modernization of Tornado .. is being tested ..
          If you still drip .. The tornado also uses the GLONAS module for adjustment, and the Alder GPS .. What do we have .. The tornado using the domestic correction module will not experience problems with it in the case of a database, but use a foreign correction module .. can until then while they let you .. after that it’s an ordinary Tornado rocket, with an increased range ..
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 April 13 2020 16: 22 New
          -1
          But there is a difference - dill created a rocket.

          The Chinese created a rocket. To the dill from the Belarusians hit.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 April 13 2020 19: 11 New
            0
            For minus one specially:
            The President of Azerbaijan was shown, among other things, the mobile ground-based missile systems - the Belarusian-Chinese "Polonez", which are in service with this unit
            https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3235433.html
      2. major147
        major147 April 3 2020 12: 48 New
        +2
        Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Aleksey Danilov emphasized that the target at a distance of 120 km was hit.

        These can declare and about the "defeat of the target on the moon", for the first time or what?
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U April 3 2020 20: 50 New
          0
          Quote: major147
          These can also declare "defeat of the target on the moon"

          So amazed, and more than once, the whole moon was dug up !! Just on the reverse side so that the world community does not scare. laughing
      3. Every
        Every April 3 2020 16: 53 New
        -1
        Quote: dvina71
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Now the articles have changed, and comments, probably too?

        What has changed? Ukrainians as stated and declare .. I’m rolling launchers of Tornado and call it Alder ..

        I've also paid attention to the launcher itself. The Ukrainians use the 9A52 from the Smerch MLRS, they don't have their own. They plan to create on the basis of KrAZ, but what will come of this is unknown.
        In fact, they only stuffed their NURS there, more precisely Soviet, but with GPS adjustment.
    2. avdkrd
      avdkrd April 3 2020 19: 56 New
      -1
      It is not necessary to make fun of a lot of mind. However, apparently this is a modernized 9M528 missile (at best) to 9M542 (adjustable), and most likely just 9M542 or its copy. There are doubts that the independent ones, developing their own ammunition for the new RSZO, would not have attempted even slightly, but to exceed the characteristics of a similar product from the aggressor.
      Taking into account the ukropropaganda and their "independent" developments in the field of weapons, I am sure that this is so.
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  6. Sergei 777
    Sergei 777 April 3 2020 11: 46 New
    -3
    We applaud Ukraine. There will be something to shoot ...
    So Iskanders will cover these installations in fleets of military vehicles. And rav warehouses will be quickly destroyed in case of conflict.
    1. major147
      major147 April 3 2020 12: 50 New
      -1
      Quote: Sergey 777
      We applaud Ukraine. There will be something to shoot ...
      So Iskanders will cover these installations in fleets of military vehicles. And rav warehouses will be quickly destroyed in case of conflict.

      "Calibers" to help. Many were convinced of their effectiveness. laughing
  7. Sergey Nemov
    Sergey Nemov April 3 2020 11: 57 New
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    reaction of the Polish audience

    Their reaction is the same for many years, to freeze nonsense in their online comments.
  8. bober1982
    bober1982 April 3 2020 11: 57 New
    0
    With the opinion of Chinese commentators (Renmin Ribao) they ceased to acquaint, switched to Polish.
    What are all these citizens needed for ?, with their balabolstvo.
  9. Amateur
    Amateur April 3 2020 12: 04 New
    +1
    The Polish edition of Defense24.pl writes that during the test hit the pole many times, which is a reference point for the target’s positionentered into the GPS system.

    Another attempt to translate a text in which you do not understand anything? recourse
  10. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 3 2020 12: 24 New
    +2
    Psheks, like a corrupt lady, in a cheap brothel. He runs around the rooms with clients, and screams to work better .. I put it very correctly.
  11. Almaty1982
    Almaty1982 April 3 2020 12: 34 New
    0
    Such a missile can also be launched at 3000 km
  12. Kalmar
    Kalmar April 3 2020 12: 40 New
    +3
    Of course, I understand that Poland is not our friend or ally, but why is this unnecessary incitement? Or am I the only one who can see the difference between "in Poland," and the statements of a couple of commentators of dubious adequacy (of which in any state in abundance)?
    1. major147
      major147 April 3 2020 12: 52 New
      -3
      Quote: Kalmar
      Poland is not our friend

      You said it all yourself.
  13. Caretaker
    Caretaker April 3 2020 12: 48 New
    0
    ... However, at a distance of 120 km, which is characteristic of the current version of the complex, Ukrainians are not going to stop. The next version is planned with a range of up to 200 km. ...
    ... some Poles recalled that Ukraine can hardly be considered Poland’s friendly state.

    It came at last. From the border of Ukraine to Warsaw 200km.
    It’s time for Poland to ask NATO for additional help.
  14. Oleg Zatsepin
    Oleg Zatsepin April 3 2020 12: 49 New
    +1
    How to increase the range? Especially using the Sumerian-space technological advances?
    Well, you can remove the warhead and add another solid fuel charge. To complicate things, a two-stage device can be chopped together, again without warheads. And run yourself at 120km with the prospect of increasing range with a fair wind.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 3 2020 12: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: Oleg Zatsepin
      How to increase the range? Especially using the Sumerian-space technological advances?
      Well, you can remove the warhead and add another solid fuel charge. To complicate things, a two-stage device can be chopped together, again without warheads. And run yourself at 120km with the prospect of increasing range with a fair wind.

      yes yes yes And a fair wind to them, in a hunchback ...
  15. rusich
    rusich April 3 2020 13: 01 New
    +2
    And here the stinky pshcheki stink.
  16. Protos
    Protos April 3 2020 14: 30 New
    +1
    And shaw, she will save from TNW ?! laughing
  17. iouris
    iouris April 3 2020 14: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: "But some Poles remembered that Ukraine can hardly be considered a friendly state to Poland." End of quote.
  18. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk April 3 2020 15: 44 New
    +5
    = I remind uneducated children: Ukraine has never been friendly towards Poland and the Poles, even when Pilsudski and Petliura entered into an alliance. It is known that 98% of Ukrainians were hostile to Poland. You can write academic books about the hostility of this people to the Poles, =
    For four centuries, with short interruptions, the Poles did everything to make the Ukrainians hate them. And the Poles succeeded in this. Why wonder now?
    What goes around, comes around.
  19. Kubanoid
    Kubanoid April 3 2020 17: 57 New
    +2
    Psheki Finally scent lost
  20. 113262a
    113262a April 3 2020 19: 51 New
    0
    I suspect that in this movement one more neighbor took a hand! Nationals of Comrade Lukashenko. Helped with solid fuel .. Shells reloaded and sent to warehouses. Hence the range. .Also Belarus, it’s borrowed this recipe from the Chinese. I think that’s how it is! And the same Shostka is still in charge of gunpowder.
    1. Nike
      Nike April 4 2020 12: 01 New
      0
      Shostka ordered to live long, "Zvezda" is put up for auction (under the cutter)
      1. 113262a
        113262a April 5 2020 00: 19 New
        0
        It is unlikely! There the dough has been tumbled in since the age of 14. And in the city, apart from the dairy and the Star, there is already nothing! Before the New Year, the factory worked.
  21. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev April 3 2020 21: 35 New
    0
    In Poland there are (first) and smart (second).
  22. novice957
    novice957 April 4 2020 02: 56 New
    0
    Oh, it reminds me a lot. Someone, once also relied on the miracle of weapons, and it is interesting to know exactly the missiles. True, the missiles flew further, and were more powerful .... I forgot how they were called, either "Fau", or "Frau" ..... I hope these followers of "supermen" do not use the labor of concentration camp prisoners to make their crackers? Or do they use it? Well, as already once it was, one greedy for free, arrogant, but cowardly country, again behaves like a hyena.
  23. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya April 4 2020 08: 09 New
    +1
    The Sumerians cannot even establish cartridge production. And then "information" about the alleged launch of a rocket at 120 km. To lie to non-brothers is to sell inexpensively. Their lies are genetically inherent.
  24. NordUral
    NordUral April 4 2020 11: 12 New
    0
    Two boots - a pair (which - I will not comment).
  25. Sergey Kazarinov
    Sergey Kazarinov April 4 2020 16: 16 New
    0
    Attempts were made to hit the target 120 km away in gusty winds. As if the war should write off the amendments to the wind. The nonsense of the writer. The calculator takes all this into account when solving the problem of reducing the zenith balance. 120 km, 200 km with a constant diameter ??? And what happens to the length of this Alder's shell? It really doesn't change, given that the engine is solid fuel, that is, powder. And another question: where will the Alder projectile fly if the GPS signals are choked with interference (and this will definitely be), or the military code code (P-code) is disabled. Probably it will be like in the movie "Wedding in Malinovka": but this machine gun, bastard, shoots at its own
  26. Alexander Zima
    Alexander Zima April 4 2020 18: 56 New
    0
    I think the Psheks specifically underestimate this rocket ... because Van the other day from KHERSON. flew in LVIV directly to podvirrya ... and sho there from LVOV to the Poles .. yakis kilometers ..
  27. Vladimir Udovichenko
    Vladimir Udovichenko April 5 2020 16: 52 New
    0
    The targeting accuracy of the "Caliber", for example, from the Caspian Sea region is 20 meters with six sigma from the point of detonation. Target designation accuracy - 1 meter. Satellites over Ukraine "hang" around the clock. The guys will be left without means of attack.
  28. APASUS
    APASUS April 5 2020 18: 50 New
    0
    The "moment of truth" is coming, the Poles are reaping the fruits of the child they have raised.
  29. Gleb39
    Gleb39 April 5 2020 20: 21 New
    0
    For some reason, the desire to create worthless articles from any informational garbage is no longer surprising! A catchy headline is the most important thing! Some of them, duped by propaganda and the current level of education, commented on something in Poland. There were individuals who read these morons. We were not too lazy to translate, write an article about the opinion of these morons. And give out a loud heading for the opinion of all of Poland. author, burn more !!! Good luck in the hard work of commenting morons! Read on the fences!