1948 Kalashnikov self-loading carbine: a little-known example of Soviet weapons


The legacy of Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov includes many samples of small arms weapons. Some of them have gained world fame, while others have remained experienced, and almost nothing is known about them to this day.


One of the inventions of the famous Soviet designer, which remained in the shadow of the legendary AK-47, was a rare example of a weapon - a Kalashnikov self-loading carbine of 1948.

History this carbine is little known. This weapon is mentioned in the book “AK-47: weapon-legend”, published by E.M. Kalashnikova, daughter of Mikhail Timofeevich.

Arriving at the factory and setting up serial production of a Kalashnikov assault rifle, Mikhail Timofeevich recalled that he worked on a self-loading carbine. The idea of ​​creating such weapons was also interesting to him. As a result, he entreated the chief engineer to be allowed to make several more samples of another weapon in the process of working on the machine, the idea of ​​creating which he had in his head. Among such weapons was a self-loading carbine.

Unfortunately, this weapon remained on the periphery of history, although, from the point of view of constructive perfection, at one time it surpassed the S.G.Simonov rifle, already ready at that time.

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  1. mat-vey April 3 2020 07: 52 New
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    "
    although, from the point of view of constructive perfection, at one time it was superior to S.G.Simonov’s rifle already ready at that time. "
    Why such confidence?
    1. Insurgent April 3 2020 08: 10 New
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      Quote: mat-vey
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      although, from the point of view of constructive perfection, at one time it was superior to S.G.Simonov’s rifle already ready at that time. "
      Why such confidence?


      I can not say anything about the Kalashnikov carbine in terms of this characteristic, because I even hear about this for the first time ...
      And here, the SCS, in the American “body kit” with a detachable store, and optics, held and shot a little bit in my hands. There was such a sniper "Seven" ...

      SCS - the device is very very accurate.
      1. mat-vey April 3 2020 08: 17 New
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        Quote: Insurgent
        I can not say anything about the Kalashnikov carbine in terms of this characteristic, because I even hear about this for the first time ...

        But I didn’t ... Kalashnikov was a participant in the competition together with Simonov and left him himself. The shutter and the SCS shutter group are much more constructively and in production than the shutter and shutter group of MT Kalashnikov. It’s another thing that this is already starting in the machine affect reliability, then the whole world finally came to the decision that the butterfly valve itself.
      2. Uncle lee April 3 2020 08: 25 New
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        He worked for several years in a St. John's wort flotilla, SKS was the main weapon of hunting! I still treat him with undisguised sympathy!
        1. Insurgent April 3 2020 08: 37 New
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          Quote: Uncle Lee
          He worked for several years in a St. John's wort flotilla, SKS was the main weapon of hunting! I still treat him with undisguised sympathy!

          I will especially mentionthat in some units of the militia of the DPR in 2014, before the mass appearance of AKs, SCS was quite widespread. And the memory of himself as a weapon left a good ...

          But, I must note, there are some "jokes" in the SCS that occur when careless attitude towards him.
          If, for example, after cleaning and lubricating the carbine, do not remove excess oil, then in the cold, due to thickening thereof, after single tap on the trigger, SKS sometimes "turns into an automatic machine", and "gives out" one turn of all the cartridges available in the clip ...
          1. Uncle lee April 3 2020 08: 40 New
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            Quote: Insurgent
            one turn

            This was observed, and with a large wear of weapons ....
            1. Insurgent April 3 2020 08: 47 New
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              Quote: Uncle Lee
              This was observed, and with a large wear of weapons ....

              Well, to us in general, it’s rare that weapons came from the "novya" ...

              We are not the DRV, and the Russian Federation is not the USSR ...

              Yes, and a trophy ... Until the 18th, the Ukrop AK-74 with a bent barrel, extracted from under a concrete slab at the Donetsk airport, was “in use”.
              1. Uncle lee April 3 2020 08: 50 New
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                In the "St. John's Wort" SCS replaced Mosinka. And how many years the SCS was operated, I don’t even know ....
          2. Bear52 April 3 2020 10: 16 New
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            There is such a thing ... Transbaikalia, for -40C, the queue for the shooting range from the SCS.
  2. Ingvar 72 April 3 2020 07: 53 New
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    Yesterday I watched the film "Kalashnikov". A good film about Mikhail Trofimovich. I did not know that before the AK-47 he had other prototypes of weapons.
    1. Just also finished yesterday (at one time there was not enough time) viewing this film. The movie was well shot, but, in my opinion, it was possible to make an extended version, in which other samples would be mentioned.
      1. svp67 April 3 2020 15: 13 New
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        Quote: Ingvar 72
        A good film about Mikhail Trofimovich.

        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Well filmed movie,

        I agree ... catchy movie
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        I did not know that before the AK-47 he had other prototypes of weapons.

        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        The movie was well shot, but, in my opinion, it was possible to make an extended version, in which other samples would be mentioned.

        And there were many of these samples, and I think that it was possible to tighten up a little, over time, episodes with the same GB player, but to tell, and most importantly to show the story as “through thorns, to the stars”, MTK went to his machine gun. It was necessary to show in the film it was necessary to show several samples of weapons. This is of course Schmeiser's SturmGever-44, it’s naive to think that the MKT did not familiarize themselves with these weapons, Sudayev’s AC-44, by the way I really liked that the authors did not forget to show the relationship between these two gunsmiths and of course it was necessary to tell how successful AK-46, turned, in violation of the rules of the competition (it could have been removed from it) into the AK-47. After all, he very much risked this risk, and made no comparisons with the same shooting at the factory, although this episode could become even more understandable and stressful ... Something like this
        1. mat-vey April 3 2020 15: 25 New
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          Quote: svp67
          like its not very successful AK-46, turned into a contest violation

          How could the only one who complied with the rules of the competition violate the "competition rules"?
          Quote: svp67
          This is of course "SturmGever-44" Schmeiser, it is naive to think that the MKT

          Kalashnikov "familiarized" with the MKb-42 (W), which was before the appearance of the StG-44 in its "final" form.
          Something after your retelling gives the impression that Buslov piled another cranberry ...
          You would be better at least to read Malimon.
          1. svp67 April 3 2020 15: 33 New
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            Quote: mat-vey
            How could the only one who complied with the rules of the competition violate the "competition rules"?

            But like this. According to the rules of the competition in the 47th year, for further testing, machines with eliminated, identified shortcomings should have been submitted. That is, brought the same as in the competition of the 46th year. Kalashnikov provided, not modified, but a new machine gun. Like this...
            1. mat-vey April 3 2020 15: 37 New
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              Quote: svp67
              According to the rules of the competition in the 47th year, for further testing, machines with eliminated, identified shortcomings should have been submitted.

              Can you provide these "rules"? Here in those assignment for creation there was a point about reloading at an adjoined store and the only model that performed it was AK-46 ..
              1. svp67 April 3 2020 15: 48 New
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                Quote: mat-vey
                Can you provide these "rules"?

                The history of these competitions has already been described more than once. If you want to understand, then hammer in the search engine about the history of competitions of 46 and 47 years ...
                Mikhail Timofeevich himself recalled it this way: “... Sasha Zaitsev and I secretly had a daring idea from the management: masking ourselves with modifications, to make a complete overhaul of the entire machine ... One thing was worrying: are we able to meet the deadline for finalizing one model?”
                1. mat-vey April 3 2020 15: 56 New
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                  Quote: svp67
                  The history of these competitions has already been described more than once. If you want to understand, then hammer in the search engine about the history of competitions of 46 and 47 years ..

                  Once again, read Malimon. He was a GAI NIPSO tester at this and other small arms competitions.
                  PySy M.T. Kalashnikov was also a tester at the NIPSO training ground for around 3 months, followed by transfer to design engineers with a master mentor Sudaev ... they had working tables in Shchurovo in one office ..
                  1. svp67 April 3 2020 16: 05 New
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                    Quote: mat-vey
                    Once again, read Malimon. He was a GAI NIPSO tester at this and other small arms competitions.

                    I read thanks, and on the account of MKb-42 (W). His scheme is certainly interesting, but if it had an impact on Kalashnikov’s work, then directly ...

                    And I wouldn’t be averse to being shown it, otherwise everyone knows about the external similarities between “SturmGever” and “Kalash”, but few people remember about this weapon. But then it would not hurt to show the SKK-44 (Kalashnikov self-loading carbine - 44)

                    1. mat-vey April 3 2020 16: 12 New
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                      You have not MKb-42 (W) but MKb-42 (H) in the photo - completely different animals from One Vaiter, and the Second Henel.
                      1. svp67 April 3 2020 16: 18 New
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                        Quote: mat-vey
                        completely different animals One Vater

                        This one?
                      2. mat-vey April 3 2020 16: 22 New
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                        He is ...
                        SKK-44 was just a participant in the contest where he won the SCS and it was, as you might guess in 1944 ....
                        And the AK-46 was also not one option.
                        Mikhail Timofeevich withdrew from the competition, but apparently did not stop developing his first “serious” trunk.
        2. oprovergatel April 6 2020 16: 33 New
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          ABOUT! And I’m straight and sad.

          An article about Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov, where, albeit in passing, the AK-47 is mentioned, and there is no schmeiserosrach in the comments! How so ?!

          But no! Have a darling laughing laughing laughing
  3. d ^ Amir April 3 2020 08: 38 New
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    BEFORE THE WAR, Mikhail Timofeevich invented a motor hour meter for tanks, but for some reason the authors of the film wanted to especially emphasize his lack of education
    1. Ingvar 72 April 3 2020 08: 49 New
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      Quote: d ^ Amir
      emphasize his lack of education

      Well, he really was not. 7 classes. request
      1. mat-vey April 3 2020 09: 14 New
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        Well, he really was not. 7 classes.

        At that time it was easier to name who it was than to list those who worked on natural talent.
        Shpagin and Degtyarev had even less.
    2. mat-vey April 3 2020 09: 16 New
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      Quote: d ^ Amir
      BEFORE WAR Mikhail Timofeevich invented a motor hour meter for tanks

      I somehow wanted to attach a photo of this counter, so the site did not give.
  • serge siberian April 3 2020 19: 52 New
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    In the 90s, I also read about the counter, the PP and the machine gun Kalashnikov. About the carbine only now. The great master however. hi